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NBC News covering the Trump trial said, Michael 65 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: Cohen lying quote not a devastating blow to the prosecution. 66 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: Admitting that he is lying on the stand. Take a listen, Danny, 67 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: let's bring you in here. 68 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: How significant a moment was that? 69 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 4: I mean, does that really give the jury something to doubt? 70 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: Here? 71 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 5: It's significant, but I appear to be in the minority. 72 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 5: A lot of folks seem to think this was a 73 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 5: devastating blow for the prosecution. I don't see it that way. 74 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 5: I doubt the prosecutions is that way. I would bet 75 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 5: the defense doesn't even consider it that Michael Cohen is 76 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 5: a cooperating witness. By definition, he's a guy who has 77 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 5: credibility issues. So when you're asking him about a phone call, 78 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 5: and if you catch him, they're going to say in 79 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 5: a lie or maybe forgetting what the reason was for 80 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 5: his phone call eight years ago. A couple of things 81 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 5: could happen. The jury might think, oh, he's concealing it, 82 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 5: which is bad for the prosecution, or they may just 83 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 5: conclude it was eight years ago he just doesn't remember. 84 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 5: So really, I don't think it was a devastating blow 85 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 5: to the prosecution, but it's something they may want to 86 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 5: clean up on redirect. Do look for the defense to 87 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 5: focus on that phone call in their closing and say 88 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 5: Michael Cohen himself has reasonable doubt about whether or not 89 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 5: he even called Donald Trump. You should have reasonable doubt 90 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 5: about his story. He's a liar, he's got a motive 91 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 5: to lie, and we even caught him in one particular lie. 92 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 5: Expect something like that, for them to focus on that 93 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 5: one moment in a cross examination that otherwise didn't have 94 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 5: a lot of aha moments. 95 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so because of that, no court today. We expect 96 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,239 Speaker 2: this cross will wrap up on Monday. 97 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 5: What more do you think the defense needs to do 98 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 5: to try and make their case here? Needs to do nothing. 99 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 5: They don't have the burden to prove anything, and they 100 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 5: will say that several times in their closing That's why 101 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 5: you may see the defense called zero witnesses. It happens 102 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 5: more often than you think. I frequently call no witnesses. 103 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 5: It's a risk averse move to do so. I wouldn't 104 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 5: be surprised if they rest with no evidence, no witnesses, 105 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 5: and then just proceed to closing arguments and really try 106 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 5: to argue that the state has not proved the case 107 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 5: beyond a reasonable doubt. 108 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: I love how NBC News there says He's like, look, 109 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm in the minority here. 110 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: Did you hear that? I don't think this is devastating. 111 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: You're on a trial, you're a juror, and the main 112 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: witness that this entire case revolves around is caught lying 113 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: on the stand. Now, there was also something else that 114 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: was very damning that was played during this court case. 115 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: And this is part number two that I think is 116 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: extremely important when it comes to all of this, Okay, 117 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: and that is Michael Cohen has made it clear. Michael 118 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: Cohen is a guy that hates Donald Trump. He's made 119 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: money off of attacking Donald Trump. They played the audio 120 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: in the court case so that they could hear him 121 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: on TikTok attacking the president of the United States of America. 122 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: Listen to what Michael Cohen. 123 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: Again, this is Michael Cohen in his own words about 124 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, and the jury heard this. 125 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 2: It was played in court. 126 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 6: I truly can hope that this man dands up in prison. 127 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 6: It won't bring back the year that I lost or 128 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 6: the damage done to my family, But revenge is a 129 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 6: dish best serve cold, and you better believe I want 130 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 6: this man to go down and rot in sighth for 131 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 6: what he did to me and my family. 132 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so you were. 133 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: He wants him to rot Okay, I let's let's just 134 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: let's just back that up quote. I truly effing hope 135 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: that this man ends up in prison, the man Donald Trump. 136 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: It won't bring back the year that I lost or 137 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: the damage under my family. But revenge is a dish. 138 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: Revenge this man's talking about. Revenge is a dish. Best 139 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: serve cold. And you better believe I want this man 140 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: to go down and rot inside for what he did 141 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: to me and my family. So the this is on TikTok. 142 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: This guy, this is their this is their witness. Okay, like, 143 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: this is their guy. And then he gets caught lying 144 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: about a phone call. So you you have to ask 145 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: yourself the question, right, And this is the same question 146 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: that MSNBC brought up, like, hey, this. 147 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: Guy's a liar. The jury knows he's a liar. 148 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: NBC News like, well, we think they'll overlook it. They 149 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: can get over the line, right way, we can move 150 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: past this. Keep listening to the MSNBC trying to rehab Michael 151 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: coh into the world and. 152 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 7: At the courthouse again. Yesterday we talked about that podcast 153 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 7: moment in just a second, but let's go back to 154 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 7: because it was a little confusing, maybe as you listened 155 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 7: through it. What was Todd Blanche What was the Trump 156 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 7: defense team getting at with that text and phone call 157 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 7: between Michael Cohen and the bodyguard Keith Schiller. 158 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 8: Well, let's talk about there was a narrow implication and 159 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 8: then a much broader one, Wally that they were trying 160 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 8: to draw. The first thing they were trying to say 161 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 8: is that Cohen's testimony about the phone call on October 162 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 8: twenty fourth between him and Keith Schiller, which he testified 163 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 8: was really a call to Trump about the Stormy Daniel's settlement, 164 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 8: wasn't true. They presented him with text messages and phone 165 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 8: call records that hadn't been part of his direct examination. 166 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 8: And the insinuation was you manufacture this when you said 167 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 8: you talked to Keith Shiller in order to talk to 168 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 8: Donald Trump about finalizing the Stormy Daniels settlement. That didn't 169 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 8: really happen, did it. You had a minute and thirty long, minute, 170 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 8: thirty second long phone call with him, and juxtaposed with 171 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 8: these texts about the fourteen year old who was prank 172 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 8: calling you at the time, it's pretty clear that you 173 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 8: called Keith Shiller to complain about that to get secret 174 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 8: service involved to get security involved in these harassing phone calls. 175 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 8: It had nothing to do with Stormy Daniels. That may 176 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 8: or may not be true. It is also true that 177 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 8: two days later, on the twenty six, there is indisputably 178 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 8: calls between Michael Cohen and Donald Trump. And I expect 179 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 8: on redirect that we'll hear a lot from the prosecution 180 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 8: about that. That Michael Cohen certainly notified Donald Trump and 181 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 8: spoke with him for some longer period of time as 182 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 8: he was finalizing it. But the broader implication that Todd 183 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 8: Blanche was trying to draw is, if you can't trust 184 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 8: Michael Cohen about this phone call, can you really trust 185 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 8: any of his testimony about the conversations that he had 186 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 8: with Donald Trump at the time? After all, this was 187 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 8: nearly eight years ago. And isn't it really the case 188 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 8: that Michael Cohen's recollection is not organic, but is rather 189 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 8: the construction of multiple prep sessions upon prep sessions with 190 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 8: prosecutors from the Manhattan DIA's office who have constructed a 191 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 8: memory in Michael Cohen that didn't organically exist about a 192 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 8: conversation that never happened, and others as well. 193 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: So he lied, he lied right there in this court case, 194 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: not eight years ago. He took a phone call and 195 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: a phone call record and then said that a big, 196 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: long conversation took place about Stormy down on some paying 197 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: her off. That was a one minute and thirty second 198 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: phone call with text messages that the defense never shared 199 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: with the court that were clearly about a harassing phone 200 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: call and wanting to get the Secret Service involved somebody 201 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: that was harassing them and that's why the phone call 202 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: even took place, and said I need to talk to 203 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: you about this, and he's like, oh crap, I lied, 204 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: I made it all up. Oh wait, I just took 205 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: a phone call and said something else was talked about. 206 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: But the text message show that the phone call happened 207 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: for one reason because of a different subject. 208 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: Sann. 209 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: By the way, they're now hedging their bets having to 210 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: admit that this isn't going well. Sann's Anderson Cooper said 211 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: it this way about what happened to Michael Cohen and 212 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: the cross examination by Trump's legal team. 213 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 9: It was an extraordinary cross examination by Todd Blanche and 214 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 9: you know Michael Cohen's throughout the day. Michael Cohen went 215 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 9: cornered and when he found himself in a corner. He 216 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 9: does have a pattern of suddenly not understanding the question 217 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 9: that being asked. It seemingly kind of I mean, one 218 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 9: could say buying time to try to figure out what 219 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 9: how he wants to answer, but he definitely suddenly starts to, 220 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 9: you know, have a Todd blanche repeat questions and said, 221 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 9: I quite understand what you mean. 222 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: I'm confused by the question. 223 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 9: But this time Michael Cohen was was cornered in what 224 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 9: appeared to be a lie. I think too many in 225 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 9: the room and had to adjust suddenly his memory that 226 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 9: he had just testified to on Tuesday. 227 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: I mean, you can hear it. 228 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: They're like, okay, we we gotta just kind of admit 229 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: things aren't good, right. Trump's attorney cornered Michael Cohen what 230 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: appeared to be a lie. So so so now they're 231 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: saying what everybody else was watching in the court, this 232 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: was a lie. It was a lie, and it happened 233 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: to the jury, and it was a lie that it 234 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: just was gonna happen. There's also Trump lawyer's cross examining 235 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: Michael Cohen, and and this is another thing that they 236 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: said on CNN. 237 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 3: Listen, we knew Caitlin Collins that they were going to 238 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: be aggressive against Michael Cohen, and it seems that mister 239 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 3: Blanche had a few tricks up his sleeve things we 240 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: did not anticipate. We anticipated that he was going to 241 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 3: ask Michael Cohen about a number of things that he 242 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 3: had said under oath that he had since admitted were 243 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: not true, about contradictions he had made in terms of 244 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 3: telling one judge that he was pleading guilty to a 245 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 3: crime because he's guilty of it, telling another judge that 246 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 3: he was never guilty of that crime, then trying to 247 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: get permission from another judge to have unsupervised release. But 248 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: now we are learning that he had even more than 249 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 3: we knew. I want to bring in former Trump White 250 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 3: House communications director Alissa Farrah Griffin. Alissa, So, Michael Cohen 251 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 3: says he never sought a job at the White House. 252 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 3: The prosecutors, I mean, Michael Cohen said he never sought 253 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: a job at the White House. Ryan Lanza here, who 254 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 3: worked on the twenty sixteen campaign, says that's not true. 255 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: He recalls Michael Cohen one to be White House counsel. 256 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 3: We have some journalists on our panel here saying that's 257 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: not true. They were called Michael Cohen saying he was 258 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 3: going to join the White House. He was very excited 259 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: to do so, according to Blanche. By the way, Cohen, 260 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 3: this is about the harassing calls. Cohen said the person 261 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 3: they would have to explain to the Secret Service. The 262 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: person replied, I'm fourteen, Please don't do this. This is 263 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 3: when Michael Cohen was getting a harassing phone calls. There 264 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: is a block feature on phones, by the way, if 265 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: you're getting harassing phone calls in any case, Alizafir Griffin, 266 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 3: tell me what. 267 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: Do you think? 268 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 4: So listen. I was working for a number of Republican 269 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: lawmakers at that time, several of whom would go into 270 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 4: the administration, including mcmulvaney as omb Director. And it was 271 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 4: widely known and believed. Now, Michael Cohen never told me firsthand, 272 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 4: I'm going into the White House. I want to, but 273 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 4: it was widely discussed that he was angling for attorney 274 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 4: general or to be a White House counsel's. I mean, 275 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 4: there's dozens and dozens of people around Washington who could 276 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 4: cooperate that. My jaw hit the floor when I hurt him. 277 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 4: That and is a practical matter which is probably extraneous 278 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 4: to this discussion, but I'll share anyway, he likely wouldn't 279 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 4: have qualified for a job in the West Wing. You 280 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 4: have to be able to get a top secret security clearance. 281 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 4: They would have gone through his finances. Frankly, this home 282 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 4: equity line probably would have shown up. The payment that 283 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 4: he got back likely would have shown up on a 284 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 4: financial disclosure. But yeah, that really struck me. And to 285 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 4: be honest, I do not think this is going the 286 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 4: way the prosecution had hoped. 287 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: So I love the way you think. Yeah, this would 288 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: have shown up. Of course, it would have shown up 289 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: when you go through the background check, it would have 290 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: shown up. 291 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: This is a no brainer. 292 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: Here MSNBC one of their hosts, right, Ari Melbert, saying 293 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: this about the case. He's one of their hosts. He 294 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: was like, I'm outside the courtroom. I gotta be honest 295 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: with you. 296 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: Listen. 297 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 10: I think the punches are building cumulatively. I think Tuesday 298 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 10: there were bruises and today there's blood. To extend the metaphor, 299 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 10: they're not done. This is a back and forth process. 300 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 8: I was listening to. 301 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 10: Your reporting, following along, like everyone, I'm going back in 302 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 10: the court room next. I was just speaking to our 303 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 10: Colleaguelaurence o'donald, who spoke to MSNBC today as well. I 304 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 10: think the collective view is these are moments the jury 305 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 10: will remember and they are instilling or adding possible doubts 306 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 10: about Michael Cohen's long term credibility, as I think everyone 307 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 10: knows by new has followed the trial. The question is 308 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 10: and has he changed his mind and retracted things? Both 309 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 10: sides agree on that that's not in doubt. The question 310 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 10: is does this guy still lie? And if he does 311 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 10: still lie about anything, little, medium or large, can you 312 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 10: trust him? And the standard is not okay, do we 313 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 10: have to be convinced that he lies about everything? The 314 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 10: standard for the jury and why Blanche is making some progress, is, 315 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 10: by the end of this, does the jury have reasonable 316 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 10: doubt about Cohen telling the truth on elements of the crime. 317 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 10: The other stuff won't ultimately matter when they deliberate it 318 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 10: just a cruise. But what we saw in that kind 319 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 10: of dramatic back and forth that it's been described today, well, 320 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 10: but you did lie and have you and why do 321 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 10: you sound like this? And a podcast where you might 322 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 10: sound allegedly unhinged. All of that accruise to whether jurors 323 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 10: go back and say I doubt whether he's telling the 324 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 10: truth about an element of the crime, for example, Trump's 325 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 10: criminal intent back in sixteen. So I think they are 326 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 10: landing blows Andrea. 327 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: That's MSNBC there. 328 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: And the reason why they're saying this, and the reason 329 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: why they're doing this is they're trying to get out 330 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: of the fact that they're the ones that pushed this 331 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: case and said Donald Trump's going to be found guilty. Now, look, 332 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: Donald Trump could still be found guilty. I want to 333 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: be clear about that, because you're in a courtroom in 334 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: a place, Okay, you're in a courtroom in a place 335 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: where what ninety percent of the people voted against Donald J. 336 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 2: Trump? 337 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: Okay, so that they could still do this. But you 338 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: hope that there's at least one juror out there that 339 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: luks and says I can't trust Michael Cohen. How could 340 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: I trust Michael Cohen. Michael Cohen lied to our face. 341 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: He lied about a phone call, He lied about not 342 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: trying to get a job at the White House, which 343 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: everyone knew he was trying to get at the White House. 344 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: Michael Cohen was was the reason why we've been told 345 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: he paid Stormy Daniels out of his own pocket. Was 346 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: he was basically using it, almost as if it was 347 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: like a shoe in for the White House job. In Blackmail, 348 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: it was like, Hey, I took out a heelock loan 349 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: that my wife didn't even know about because I know 350 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: she wouldn't let me do this. I paid this myself, 351 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: mister President, because I didn't want it to be embarrassing 352 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: to you, and so I took all this risk for you. Man, 353 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: I need a job in the White House. I want 354 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: to be the Attorney General, which tells you how delusional 355 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: he is. I said, it's on Fox this week. I said, 356 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: Michael Cohen wasn't on the A list, he wasn't on 357 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: the B list. He went on the C list. He 358 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: would on the WTF list. Okay, Michael Cohen was never 359 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: going to be the Attorney General. Michael Cohen was never 360 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: going to be White House counsel either. Like that was 361 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: never ever ever going to happen. Michael Cohen was never 362 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: getting those jobs. And it shows you how delusional he 363 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: is that he thought he could become the Attorney General 364 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: of the United States of America when he's a guy 365 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: that was hoping to get the job. 366 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: Only because. 367 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: He paid out of his own pocket Stormy Daniels some 368 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: cash so he could use it as leverage, or you 369 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: could argue at this point blackmail to then try to 370 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: force Trump to give him the job that he desperately 371 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: wanted so he would be important, right, Because really, that's 372 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: what this is all about. He wanted to be important. 373 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: He wanted to be really, really really important. He wanted 374 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: to be the man. He wanted to make sure that 375 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: he was the man. 376 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 10: Right. 377 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: He wanted to make. 378 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: Sure that when people looked at Michael Cohen, he was 379 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: a guy in the White House that made it. He 380 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: didn't want to get left behind, and so he probably thought, Hey, 381 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: paying Stormy Daniels some cash, pulling out a heelock loan, 382 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: hiding it from my wife, this is money well spent, 383 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna get paid back when he gets to 384 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: the White House. 385 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 2: He's gonna owe me one. 386 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: Now that the jury's got all of this, they've got 387 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: a lie that they know was told to them during 388 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: the trial. They've got other lies that have now been 389 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: clearly exposed. He told in the past, and then he's 390 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: lied at the trial about his lies in the past. 391 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: So it's like three different ways of lying that he's 392 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: all been caught to the point where MSNBC says, hey, 393 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: he was bruised yesterday, now he's bleeding today. I want 394 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,479 Speaker 1: to get by the way, and I'm going to keep 395 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: covering everything going on with a Trump trial. Make sure 396 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: you listen to the podcasts all week. I'm going to 397 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: be doing the podcast every day as all, but we're 398 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: going to be really focusing a lot on the Trump 399 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: trial and what happens this week. 400 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: So download it, listen to it. 401 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson podcasts every every day, and I'm going to 402 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: keep you updated on what's happening in this trial. But 403 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: there's also what I mentioned earlier that I want to 404 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: get to and that deals with what's also going on now, 405 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: specifically with Israel. President Biden now is continuing to show 406 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: how much he is working not with Israel, not for Israel, 407 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: but against Israel. And the reason why he's working against 408 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: Israel is because he's had to sell sell his soul 409 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: to the terrorists, to the devil, to Hamas to try 410 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: to get the thirty five and younger crowd of the 411 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: Democratic Party, which are socialists, Marxists. 412 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: And communists on his side, on his team. 413 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: That's what this really boils down to the Democratic Party, 414 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: and the polling numbers are showing now overwhelmingly that Joe 415 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: Biden is in real trouble with younger voters and specifically 416 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: younger voters that believe that the president should not be 417 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: supporting and or advocating for Israel. They hate Israel, they 418 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: hate the Jews, and they want to push the Jews 419 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: into the sea is how they describe it. From the 420 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: river the sea. They want to exterminate all the Jews. 421 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: It's no different than the Hitler mentality. Now, it's all, 422 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: I want to be clear, a campaign tactic for him 423 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: to avoid losing the support of the anti Israel wing 424 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party, the socialist, communists and Marxist as 425 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: I've said and I will continue to say over again 426 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: over again, because I do believe that the Democratic Party 427 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: is in fact dead. Okay, I completely believe that the 428 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,719 Speaker 1: Democratic Party is dead. They are now Marxists and socialists 429 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: and communists who are mascer rating as Democrats. AMA's supporters, 430 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: by the way, are screaming about palies in in casualties 431 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: for example, and there this is happening on college campuses 432 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: and at college graduations. It's important to remember that the 433 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: casualty numbers that we are getting are coming directly from 434 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: the terrorist organization Hamas. And even though we're getting these 435 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: numbers from Hamas, the Biden administration is treating these casualty 436 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: numbers as if they are fact. Now, this is the 437 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: same organization, by the way, who that are giving us 438 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: these casual casualty numbers. That the same exact people who 439 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: also told you that Israel bomb a hospital in Gaza, 440 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: which didn't happen. In fact, it was a rocket, a 441 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: misfired rocket from the terrorists Hamas that landed in the 442 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: parking lot. And they also said I think there was 443 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: what was it, five hundred casualties or fifty, I can't remember. 444 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 2: It was a significant number of casualties. 445 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: And the reporters all ran with us, every major news 446 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: organization ran with it, and then they had to retract 447 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: it or act like, go, oh wait, we had bad information. 448 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 2: So they lied. 449 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: They basically bombed their own hospital parking lot and then 450 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: said there was hundreds of casualties that were happened by Israel, 451 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: And they said that Israel bombed the parking lot, and 452 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: then there was like very clear evidence that no, Israel 453 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: didn't bomb a hospital and there was zero casualties and 454 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: that it was their own rocket that did it. And 455 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: then what happened, Oh, the media just moved on right away. 456 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: So to be clear, the same people that are giving 457 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: the casually numbers to the world, the same people that 458 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: lied to you about that bombing. And what did the 459 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: White House say about this week when they were asked like, Hey, 460 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: these these casually numbers are really high that are coming 461 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: out of Amah, you know, of Gaza. The problem is 462 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: the numbers are coming from the terrorists. Do you guys 463 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: trust these numbers and listen to what Listen carefully what 464 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: Kirby said at the White House. 465 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 5: I have a question about the death tool of Gaza. 466 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: Does President by neck confidence and the casualty numbers coming 467 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 2: out of Gaza. 468 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 11: The President watches this very very closely, and you've heard 469 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,239 Speaker 11: him talk about the more than thirty thousand people have 470 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 11: been killed, and he said the majority of women and children. 471 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 11: He's also said that's unacceptable. And as we've maintained time 472 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 11: and time again, the right number of civilian casualties ought 473 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 11: to be zero. But in terms of you know what 474 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 11: specific number we're quoting or citing on any given day. 475 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 11: I mean, we're doing the best we can, working with 476 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 11: the Israelis to ascertain the scope of the civilian suffering. 477 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 11: But it's obviously a mess. 478 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 4: It's this confidence in the numbers come out of Gaza 479 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 4: increased since late October, and he said he had no 480 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 4: confidence in the numbers. 481 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 11: If you've heard the President talked about the numbers and 482 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 11: talk about the concern. And the most important thing, aside 483 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 11: from obviously how tragic that is, is what we're doing 484 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 11: to alleviate and help improve conditions in Gaza, including through 485 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 11: this temporary here today. 486 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: Again, this is a guy Kirby at the White House 487 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: that's sitting there going, yes, we do trust the numbers 488 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: coming from the terraces. The same terrorists that lie about 489 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: everything and lied about a hospital being bombed by Israel 490 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: and lied about casualties connected to the bombing of a 491 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: hospital which never happened, and they lie about the number 492 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: of casualis to make Israel look bad and to get 493 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: the pressure on the rest of the world to tell 494 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: Israel that they're going too far and they're killing too 495 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: many civilians. And the White House is sitting there given 496 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: an opportunity to do the right things. 497 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 9: Day. 498 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: Of course, we don't trust these numbers. We can't trust 499 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 2: these numbers. 500 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: Look, we don't want anyone to die, but we're not 501 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: going to sit here and believe the terrorist numbers. 502 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: Like, we would never do that. That would have been 503 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 2: a normal answer. That's not what they did. You won't 504 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: know why. 505 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: Because they're completely beholden to the radicals and the terrorists 506 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: in the Democratic Party, and so they can't tell you 507 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: the truth here, Like it's not acceptable. It's not something 508 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 1: that they're allowed to do. They cannot tell you that. Look, 509 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 1: of course, we don't trust the terrorists, right, Like, of 510 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 1: course we don't try us to terrorists. They're like, no, no, no, 511 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: we trust the numbers. No, no, we have no problem 512 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: with the numbers. No, no, we think the numbers are fine. 513 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: Like we're all in on these numbers. These numbers are good, right, Like, 514 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: these numbers are totally We're totally like, these numbers are legit. 515 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: We have no issue with the numbers. 516 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: Let me go back to another point here, all right 517 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: deals with Kirby as well. Kirby has asked another question here, 518 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: and this is actually. 519 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 2: A really simple question. 520 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: Are you guys with holding weapons deliveries from Israel, because 521 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: that's what we're being told, and Israel desperately needs these 522 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: weapons to protect and defend themselves and go after the 523 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 1: actual terrorists. In fact, the weapons now that we are 524 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: withholding from Israel are the weapons that are the precision 525 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: guided bombs that make sure that the loss of life 526 00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: and innocent people are more than likely never killed because 527 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: these precision guided bombs are so vitally important to just 528 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: hitting the terraces. 529 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 2: And so those precision guided. 530 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: Bombs that you could, you could argue the safest bombs 531 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: that Israel can use to take out the terrace and 532 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: not kill civilians are now officially being withheld. 533 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 2: You heard that, right, are being withheld from Israel. 534 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: And the White House is asked about, like, are you 535 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: guys withholding these bombs from Israel or ally and listen 536 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: to the way they lie the American people's not a withholding. 537 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 11: There's a pause put in place on a shipment of 538 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 11: two thousand pound bombs and that pause is still in place. 539 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: Huh so, so it's a pause on these bombs. He's like, no, no, 540 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:44,479 Speaker 2: it's not a pause. 541 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: We're just withholding the bombs that's all we're doing here. 542 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: This is just this is just us holding. We're not 543 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: We're not withholding. We're just hitting a pause here, it's 544 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: a pause. This is a lie, this is this is semantics, 545 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: and they're trying to have it both ways. Hey, we're 546 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: not gonna give Israel what they need, but we're gonna 547 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: withhold what they what they desperately need, and somehow this 548 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 1: will work out. 549 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 2: So then you look at Joe Biden. Is Joe Biden 550 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: taking his hand fully off of Israel? 551 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: The answer, yes, Joe Biden is one hundred percent now 552 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: working basically for. 553 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: Hamas and the terrorist organization. 554 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: Joe Biden was at a commencement ceremony and Joe Biden 555 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: was talking about Israel and talking about the Palestinians or Hamas. However, 556 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: however the hell you want to put it, and what 557 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: Joe Biden said was I am in favor now of 558 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: a two state solution. The only way we're gonna get 559 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: this is if there is a two state solution. 560 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 2: What does that mean in translation? Take exactly what it means. 561 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,479 Speaker 1: What it means in translation is Israel, You're gonna have 562 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: to live with the terrorists, and you better pay attention 563 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: and live with a terrorists, because I'm in favor of 564 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: a two state solution, which would include the terrorists, I 565 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: would assume being in charge. 566 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: Right, Like, the terrorists are clearly in charge. Now. The 567 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: President of the United. 568 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: States of America is up there and saying, Okay, I'm 569 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: all in for the terrorists. I'm defending the terrorists. What 570 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: else do you want from me, you guys in this audience, right, like, 571 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: I'm all in for the terrorists. Here he's at Morause 572 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: College and he's talking about I'm in favor of a 573 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: two stay solution. We must have a two stat solution. 574 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: And I'm withholding these bombs. But just a pause, is right? 575 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: The White House says, are you kidding me? Morehouse College graduates, 576 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: by the way, they turn their backs on crooked Joe Biden, 577 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: which was hysterical to me. This is a guy that 578 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: just sits there at Morause College and straight aupplies to you. 579 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: He lies over and over again and throws Israel under 580 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: the bus in the process of lying to. 581 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: You over and over and over again. 582 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: They didn't even want him, by the way, at Morehouse College, right, 583 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: they didn't want him there. In fact that the audio 584 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,719 Speaker 1: from CNN talks about how the president I s it's 585 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: America who goes to Morehouse, who's trying to get back voters. 586 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: Listen to what they said about him right now and 587 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: how bad is among the back vote. 588 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 12: A new Fox News poll shows just how much President 589 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 12: Biden support among black voters has fallen since the last election. 590 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 12: Take a look at this. In twenty twenty, he enjoyed 591 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 12: a dominant seventy five point margin, but now that margin 592 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 12: has dropped to just forty nine points. What are you 593 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 12: hearing from voters out there about why this is and 594 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 12: what is the Biden team's plan to try to turn 595 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 12: these numbers around? 596 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 13: You know, well, if I spoke to black voters earlier 597 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 13: this year for some reporting, and their concerns are primarily economic. 598 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 13: It's a deep frustration with stagnant wages. It's anxiety about 599 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 13: being able to afford a home. They feel as though 600 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 13: they keep voting for Democrats and they're live, aren't getting 601 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 13: any materially bitter. 602 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: A new Fox News polish, I mean, did you hear that? 603 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: Did you hear what he just said? The black vote 604 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: is running away from Joe Biden on purpose. So look, 605 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: Joe Biden can go out there to morehouse and he 606 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: can try to, you know, get all the support he wants. 607 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: They turn their back on him. They don't They don't 608 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: trust him. 609 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: Israel doesn't trust him. The terrorists like him, the extremists 610 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 1: don't like him enough. This guy is foundering with every 611 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: core group he needs right now because he's trying to 612 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: play both sides of every single issue, and it's backfiring. 613 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes you just have to stand up to the evil 614 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: ones in the world. And yet he's afraid about losing 615 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: a reelection, so he's saying, Okay, Hamas, I'll work with 616 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: you now, I'll be on your team and I'll go 617 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: after Israel instead. 618 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: That's a problem. 619 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: Make sure, by the way, that you share this podcast 620 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: with your family and friends. Hit that little forward arrow 621 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: and text it or put it on social media while 622 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: the mea does everything you can to try to shut 623 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: you down, silence us, and make sure no one knows 624 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: what's really happening. 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