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Speaker 3: Jeff Lagham and Austin Lane. Gentlemen, good afternoon. What's up afternoon?

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Speaker 3: And by the way, we know you missed the headline

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Speaker 2: What's up? The tush push is back? Absolutely, yeah, it

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Speaker 2: never went away.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I I how do you feel about that?

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Speaker 2: Well, jag stopped it twice, remember right, So be better? Okay, defense,

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Speaker 2: be more stout? What do you think about that? So?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm off hard the toush push because it's

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Speaker 4: a football play and I think that the teams that

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Speaker 4: voted against it are teams that can't stop it. So

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Speaker 4: you got to figure it out. Now, Jeff, you're a

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Speaker 4: defensive guy. I have an idea of how to stop.

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Speaker 2: The tush push.

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Speaker 4: Now come along with me a little bit, and JP,

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Speaker 4: you're pretty to join in here. So you talk about

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Speaker 4: it's probably go on the gap or B gap, right.

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Speaker 4: This is a quarterback sneak, right, and then then they

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Speaker 4: push from behind. I say, we get our two biggest

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Speaker 4: guys at the nose, you know, tackle, get them in

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Speaker 4: the middle, we get our linebackers bring them down, and

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Speaker 4: we push the defensive tackles in their tush. So it's

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Speaker 4: almost like a what we call like a scrum, like

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Speaker 4: a ruggy scrum. Where will you take your linebackers, You

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Speaker 4: push your defensive tackles forward, and that's going to create

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Speaker 4: that penetration to stop the toush push. Noteing the NFL

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Speaker 4: right now does this? I say, you give it a truck.

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Speaker 4: We'll see now, Okay.

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Speaker 3: The other part of that is that all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: you're pushing two defensive linemen. That means that's four guys

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Speaker 3: in that small space. What if they just break it?

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Speaker 2: Why? And you've got numbers they could they could could

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Speaker 2: be a reaction to that.

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Speaker 3: But I think the official term is not a rugby

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Speaker 3: scrumka because I have been called out on using that

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Speaker 3: term many times, saying for the for the JP, you

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Speaker 3: might need to do a little research on the exact

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Speaker 3: exact wording of it. But I have been called out

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Speaker 3: about forty from time saying stop using that term. That's

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Speaker 3: not what it is. So anyway, but if you're the

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Speaker 3: teams that voted against it, or should I say voted

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Speaker 3: against banning the tush push, aren't you a little embarrassed?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean any team can do it.

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Speaker 4: It's not like the Eagles just have like the magic

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Speaker 4: recipe where it's like, hey, we can just do it.

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Speaker 2: Any team can do the tush push.

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Speaker 4: It's just they figured out whether it's the cadence, whether

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Speaker 4: it's just you know, the pad level like that, they've

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Speaker 4: mastered it.

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Speaker 3: Whether I mean the quarterback can squat six hundred pounds too,

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Speaker 3: that never hurts, So that hasn't hurt either, But I

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Speaker 3: mean he's been hurt and they still did it when

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Speaker 3: he obviously couldn't squat six hundred pounds. But what I'm

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Speaker 3: most proud of about that whole situation is that our team,

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Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Jaguars, did not vote to ban the tush.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Okay, they stood with some other teams and said, no,

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Speaker 3: we're not going to penalize a team for having a

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Speaker 3: very good.

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Speaker 2: Play and being good at it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, shame on all the other teams that voted to

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Speaker 2: It was only like two votes away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but two votes is all it takes.

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Speaker 4: Man, I mean, where is this energy when Tom Brady

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Speaker 4: was getting you know, when it was like third and

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Speaker 4: one fourth one Tom Brady quarterback sneak every single time,

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Speaker 4: it was like one hundred percent, like I would have

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Speaker 2: I'm going to vote against a Derrick Henry stiff farm.

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Speaker 4: Like that's not conduce some to playing defense, like ban

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Speaker 4: the stiff farm, the ban everything.

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Speaker 2: That one. I'm tired of that. I'm tired the highlights

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Speaker 3: You know that's that is one of the greatest plays

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Speaker 3: you you lie on, because unfortunately some of those highlight

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Speaker 3: stiff farms have been at the expense of this team,

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Speaker 3: certainly have, but I must say that they're in first

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Speaker 3: person watching it. You're sitting there going, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: did you just see that? And I just want to go,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, did you just see that? I wanted

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Speaker 3: to say that on a radio, but you can't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not our team.

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Speaker 3: He believes that we missed so many tackles on one player.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine it was like, you're kind of the

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Speaker 3: O office. I can't believe that we're just gonna allow

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Speaker 3: him to stiff our musk. When is somebody got to

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Speaker 3: learn knock the arm down and then get into his ban.

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Speaker 3: Derrick Henry just the whole thing, by the way, he's

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Speaker 3: a very well, a much richer man too, but he's Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we'll get to some of these other rule changes coming up,

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Speaker 3: but OHTA is underway Monday. The first one was open

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Speaker 3: to the media. Trevor Lawrence after the practice, learning yet

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Speaker 3: another offense.

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Speaker 5: I really like it. You know, it has a lot

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Speaker 5: of answers. You know, it's it's it's great. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it puts a lot of the players you have to

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Speaker 5: know your stuff, but.

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Speaker 2: It gives you all the answers.

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Speaker 5: You know, you're not I don't feel like you're stuck

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Speaker 5: in a play that's uh not set up for success.

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Speaker 5: You know, gives us a lot of answers, and uh

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Speaker 5: we changed the presentation a lot and make a lot

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Speaker 5: of things look the same. You know, there's there's a

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Speaker 5: whole lot of without going in too much detail, you know,

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Speaker 5: And it's definitely unlike any system that I've learned before.

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Speaker 5: So it's been cool to learn and just pick the

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Speaker 3: Third offense for him now in the National Football League,

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Speaker 3: and this is the time of year to get some

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Speaker 3: of the kinks and the bugs worked out. He said,

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Speaker 3: a lot of answers out of this offense. What does

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Speaker 3: that mean, Well, it means there's a lot of options.

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Speaker 3: So let's say a defense presents you with a defense

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Speaker 3: A okay, but the play that you have doesn't match that.

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Speaker 3: You've got to play dialed up for defense B. Well,

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Speaker 3: a lot of times it gives you as a quarterback

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Speaker 3: the flexibility to change the play that's going to give

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Speaker 3: you the best play for that defense A. And I

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Speaker 3: think that's what he's referring to it. And I call

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Speaker 3: that the Peyton Manning effect. Right, Peyton Manning comes to

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Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage and he's like, oh maha, omaha,

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Speaker 3: and he's changing the play three different times based on

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Speaker 3: him the best chance to be in the best play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, as someone who's played against Peyton Manning many times,

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Speaker 4: like he was a cerebral assassin with how he could

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Speaker 4: diagnose things, see the coverages.

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Speaker 2: And then call out of them.

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Speaker 4: When I expecting Trevor Lawrence right now to be in

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Speaker 4: a new offense and be the next Peyton Manning, but

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Speaker 4: I think giving him options giving him choices where okay,

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Speaker 4: maybe that the A choice is covered, well, here's the

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Speaker 4: B choice. B choice is taken away, here's the C choice.

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Speaker 3: I also like the fact that he is in total

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Speaker 3: command at this early stage, you know, because I was

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Speaker 3: appears to be in total command of the offense. You

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Speaker 3: know how sometimes when you're in OTA's, especially when it's

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Speaker 3: a new coach and it's a new system, it's like.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, woo, who bo.

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Speaker 3: You didn't even get to the line of scrimmage because

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Speaker 3: you're not lining up right, the quarterback doesn't have the

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Speaker 3: formation set. You didn't have really any of that on

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Speaker 3: the first day, which is impressive to me, and it

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Speaker 3: shows that Trevor has been working is behind off leading

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Speaker 3: up to the first OTA because there's nothing that's more

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Speaker 3: frustrating than to get to practices and the quarterbacks not

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Speaker 2: To run it correct. You know, you know what I

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm gonna tell you this, he didn't have a

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Speaker 3: great day on the first day of practice, Okay, but

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Speaker 3: it's you're not trying to win football games on the

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Speaker 3: first practice day. There's plenty of days to be better

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Speaker 3: in which I understand. From what I understand, he was

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Speaker 2: He looked great to me. That's what it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And I think like, if you expect the offense to

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Speaker 4: then something's wrong. Then then Liam Cohen's offense is way

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Speaker 4: too simplistic, right. I'd rather see them come out there,

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Speaker 4: have the defense win a little bit, have Trevor get

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Speaker 4: is all about. It's a learning experience. Like you're not

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Speaker 4: trying to, you know, be super Bowl bound right now.

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Speaker 4: You're trying to learn from mistakes and get better.

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Speaker 3: That's where the social media aspect play, right, And we're

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Speaker 3: on Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shatter Jeff agobon Austin Lane.

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Speaker 2: Any clip that goes on social media.

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Speaker 3: These days, yeah, is dissected up and down, left and right.

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Speaker 2: Oh is the route crisp enough? Why is the.

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Speaker 3: Football on the ground oh, he threw an interception. This

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Speaker 3: didn't exist twenty five years ago. This kind of coverage

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Speaker 3: of OTA's thirty years well, right, look just a different animal.

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Speaker 3: The media and social media always has this offensive slant. Okay,

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Speaker 3: what's wrong with a defensive slant? Hey, look, great job

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Speaker 3: of disrupting the timing by the defense.

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Speaker 2: Great job by.

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Speaker 3: The way, Anthony Campanilli's defense, getting your hands on the ball.

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Speaker 3: Why don't we give a little pad on the back

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Speaker 3: of the defense on the first day, Because you know what,

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Speaker 3: defense is always expected to be better early in training camp,

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Speaker 3: early in the off season training activities, because playing defense

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Speaker 3: is athleticism. It's not Timing and consistency and repetition. Those

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Speaker 3: are all offensive things. Now, defense does require some that

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna tell you a quick story.

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Speaker 3: Get into the preseason schedules, come out dates and times.

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Speaker 4: think you should do mini camp, you know, whether it's

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Speaker 4: a first year coach or a second year coach, whatever

439
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Speaker 4: the case may be, just because I think the ota

440
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Speaker 4: is it can be a little more you know, casual,

441
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Speaker 4: and if you want to, you know, cut guys out early,

442
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Speaker 4: so be it. But that mini camp, to me, it's

443
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Speaker 4: really the first time you can kind of build that camaraderie,

444
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Speaker 4: kind of build that mentality a little bit. And let's

445
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Speaker 4: be honest here, you brought in a brand new regime

446
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Speaker 4: with a brand new mindset. It's important to get those

447
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Speaker 4: basic building traits in right now and not when training

448
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Speaker 4: camp actually starts.

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Speaker 2: Here in what July. It is I think part of that.

450
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Speaker 3: You know what also you're referring to is building culture, right,

451
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 3: part of building culture and hard work, you know, and

452
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Speaker 3: and commitment.

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Speaker 2: So you love ball. If you love ball, here's not

454
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Speaker 2: a problem.

455
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Speaker 3: And that's a pretty pretty significant break between Mini camp

456
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Speaker 3: and then time training camp is scheduled to be open,

457
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Speaker 3: you know, so take advantage of it while you can.

458
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Speaker 3: Preseason schedule announced today. All three of the preseason games.

459
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Speaker 3: The dates and times. Week one Saturday, August ninth, Jaguars

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Speaker 3: at home against the Steelers seven pm on Fox thirty TV.

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Speaker 3: Sunday August seventeenth at the New Orleans Saints one pm

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Speaker 3: Eastern Time on a Sunday on CBS forty seven to

463
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Speaker 3: twelve noon locals, So get.

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Speaker 2: In bed early in New Orleans logs that night.

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Speaker 3: Saturday, August twenty third, preseason Week three at Miami seven

466
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Speaker 3: pm kick a Saturday night on Fox thirty. And as

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Speaker 3: you reference, just before our time out logs, the Jaguars

468
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Speaker 3: will have a joint practice with the Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: And I like that.

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Speaker 3: I think that's really it's always good because you know,

471
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Speaker 3: after kind of going against the same guys every day

472
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Speaker 3: in training camp, it gets a little bit old, you know,

473
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Speaker 3: and on top of that, you want to go against

474
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Speaker 3: a different system. You also want to go against a

475
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Speaker 3: different body type and a different type of player to

476
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Speaker 3: kind of get your game rounded in the form for

477
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Speaker 3: the regular season.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm excited for this Jaguars defense to to go

479
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Speaker 4: against some of those Dolphins wide receivers, right, like a

480
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Speaker 4: Tyreek kill and Joe and Waddle, Like, what's gonna look

481
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Speaker 4: like if Chatli's hunters on Tyreek Kilper a little bit

482
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Speaker 4: or Jaylen Waddle Like, let's see what the young guys

483
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Speaker 4: got for this. Yeah, I love that absolutely.

484
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Speaker 2: And we've seen it over the years. You know.

485
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Speaker 3: Twenty seventeen Jaguars went to New England for the joint

486
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Speaker 3: practices and got an eye full of how Tom Brady

487
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Speaker 3: goes about his business. That some of the greatest I

488
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Speaker 3: gotta say this, that was.

489
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Speaker 2: One you were there, That's incredible.

490
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Speaker 3: That was one of the greatest experiences Austin that I've

491
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Speaker 3: ever had in my professional broadcasting career. Really was watching

492
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Speaker 3: the Jaguars practice with the New England Patriots and watching

493
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Speaker 3: how a Bill Belichick training camp Tom Brady training camp

494
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Speaker 3: was operated. I've never seeing a more organized training camp

495
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Speaker 3: like for example, special teams they go to a special

496
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Speaker 3: teams period. Yeah, and the special teams coach Joe Judge

497
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Speaker 3: I think it was at that time, Sure, who became

498
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Speaker 3: a head coach soon after, would call out, okay, give

499
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Speaker 3: me the number two kickoff. Bam, Eleven guys were there. Yeah,

500
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Speaker 3: you know, there was like no trying to grab a

501
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Speaker 3: guy from that. Forgot about that. He was on the

502
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Speaker 3: number two kickoff exactly where they had to be when

503
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Speaker 3: they had to be, and nobody missed their assignment.

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Speaker 4: Just let me ask you this because I've had a

505
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Speaker 4: bunch of friends, you know that were teammates of Peyton

506
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Speaker 4: Manning and from a Peyton Manning training camp.

507
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Speaker 2: He kind of ran everything like he.

508
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Speaker 4: Was so intelligent where it was like, hey, we're gonna

509
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Speaker 4: run these plays right here. If you don't do them, ight,

510
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Speaker 4: let's run him again. When you had that Patriots camp,

511
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Speaker 4: was it more of the Bill Belichick ran camp or

512
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Speaker 4: did Tom Brady kind of have a voice too and

513
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Speaker 4: say we need to do these things.

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Speaker 2: I think it was both.

515
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Speaker 3: You know, overall, the organizational part of it was Belichick, sure,

516
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Speaker 3: but it was really interesting watching Tom Brady in the

517
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Speaker 3: offense because Tom Brady wasn't gonna work but only with

518
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Speaker 3: a certain certain, certain number of players, and there was

519
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Speaker 3: no substituting guys that he didn't want on the field

520
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Speaker 3: with them.

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Speaker 2: He controlled all of that.

522
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Speaker 3: And so for example, like you see in training camp,

523
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Speaker 3: you see Trevor might work with you know, an undrafted

524
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Speaker 3: rookie maybe for a rep or too. Tom Brady wasn't

525
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Speaker 3: not have any of that. He wasn't gonna waste his

526
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Speaker 3: rep with a guy that he wasn't gonna throw to

527
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Speaker 3: during the regular the nuances.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he controlled all of that.

529
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, coaches weren't going, hey, give me you, you

530
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Speaker 3: and you.

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Speaker 2: No, Tom was going let's go boys.

532
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was pretty fascinating. And then of course later

533
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Speaker 3: that you're back in Foxborough and what he did after practice,

534
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Speaker 3: Remember what Tom Brady was doing after practice with the

535
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Speaker 3: legs and all that kind of extra work that he

536
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Speaker 3: was doing physically. I mean it was impressive, man, it

537
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Speaker 3: was that was an zero carbs.

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Speaker 4: I'm believable, Wow, how we could do all that was

539
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Speaker 4: zero carbs. You know, he's had the guy in the carbs, Jeff.

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Speaker 2: I mean, any.

541
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Speaker 3: Energy gotta have it, you get carves from meat, don't you.

542
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Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit, I don't know. Don't look at me.

543
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Speaker 2: I need a lot of carbs. But I don't know

544
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Speaker 2: what I mean.

545
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Speaker 3: I mean, you would know you're the one that's training

546
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Speaker 3: right now. Oh and I use carbs. I use a

547
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Speaker 3: lot of cars from my understanding, I guess Tom Brad doesn't.

548
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Speaker 3: Isn't a big carb guy. Yeah, he's kind of skinny. Yes,

549
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Speaker 3: you know, JP is a carb king. We're training for

550
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Speaker 3: different things, right And.

551
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Speaker 2: Here's the one thing.

552
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Speaker 3: I mean, look, how can you not have a little

553
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Speaker 3: bit of linguini, white clam hosta preach, you know, or something.

554
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Speaker 3: Treat yourself a little bit to do it every day season?

555
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 3: But I mean kind of ice cream I think was

556
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Speaker 3: on the menu for him. He was talking about one time.

557
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Speaker 3: I remember every week when I used to when we

558
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Speaker 3: when I was training, you know, seriously, when I was playing,

559
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Speaker 3: I think it.

560
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Speaker 2: Was like once a week I used to go to

561
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Speaker 2: fud Ruckers, Okay, place to come on.

562
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Speaker 3: One day, just give me one meal during the week

563
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Speaker 3: where you can have a little treat, maybe even a

564
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Speaker 3: little ice cream afterwards, milkshake or something like that, you know,

565
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know.

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Speaker 2: Kind of a reward. Can't live it all the time

567
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Speaker 2: he got to you.

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I showed a locking with Greg Jones,

569
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Speaker 4: who was built like a gi Joe. Oh my, and

570
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 4: that dude lived off a grilled chicken in broccoli. I

571
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 4: don't know how he did it. And every single lunch,

572
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Speaker 4: every single dinner, all I see him, he was his

573
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Speaker 4: grilled chicken and broccoli. And hey, it worked out because

574
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Speaker 4: he had the physique. But man, there was two guys that.

575
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Speaker 3: I remember in covering this game as a player and

576
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Speaker 3: then as a broadcaster. The first one that I ever

577
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Speaker 3: came across who was just physically gifted was an offensive

578
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Speaker 3: tackle that we acquired in New York from the Kansas

579
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Speaker 3: City Chiefs, and name it was IRV Eatman. IRV Eatman

580
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Speaker 3: was six foot five and a half three hundred and

581
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Speaker 3: ten pounds and didn't even try to be and he

582
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Speaker 3: couldn't lift weights in the off season because he just

583
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Speaker 3: got too big. Greg Jones was kind of along those

584
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Speaker 3: lines too. I mean, just a guy that if he

585
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Speaker 3: went to the weight room and he started lifting weights

586
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Speaker 3: on a Monday, by Friday, he gained one inch in

587
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Speaker 3: his bicycle.

588
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 6: Way.

589
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and if about Greg Jones. There was one guy

590
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 4: I ever played, I shared a locker room with I

591
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 4: would never want to fight.

592
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was Beg Jones. He never never wanted

593
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Speaker 3: to mess with Greg Jones. Man, he's the guy I'm

594
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 3: picking in a in an alley fight. Absolutely so. The

595
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Speaker 3: one guy that I would never want to get in

596
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Speaker 3: a tangle with that I ever played with was Mo Lewis,

597
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 3: linebacker from Georgia. Moe's a linebacker with the Jets. And

598
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 3: there was a guy that we had actually acquired from

599
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Speaker 3: the Canadian Football League one year and thought he was

600
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Speaker 3: everything because he had all these sacks with the Canadian

601
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Speaker 3: Football League. And he ran his mouth to Moe in

602
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Speaker 3: the locker room one time, and all of a sudden

603
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Speaker 3: there was a tussle because this guy, I think his

604
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: name was Danny. Danny ran his mouth to Mo. We

605
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 3: all knew you didn't mess with Mo. Yeah, Moe's martial

606
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: arts guy. Yeah to hear, Mo never wore socks a

607
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: day in his football life. Country huh, country barefoot, barefoot

608
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Speaker 3: in the shoe and then take the sock from the

609
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 3: low ankle up. Okay and Mo, next thing, you know,

610
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 3: when Danny ran his lip all sudden, there was a bang,

611
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 3: bang bang, and next thing you know, Danny is stuffed

612
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 3: in a locker begging for Moe to stop, and everybody

613
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 3: else is just sitting there, going.

614
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Speaker 2: We told you, we told you. We'll come back in

615
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Speaker 2: a moment.

616
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Speaker 3: And hey, some of the rules changes that were voted

617
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Speaker 3: in by league ownership this week, including some players that

618
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 3: could be playing for.

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Speaker 2: Their country here in a couple of years. We're back

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Speaker 2: at the moment a Seguars happy hour.

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Speaker 5: I got a lot of juice, Like he can he

622
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 5: can run all day, a lot of energy.

623
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Speaker 2: I love it.

624
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 5: Good energy, always dapping guys up, just bringing juice every day.

625
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 5: And like I said, high mode or can just go.

626
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 5: It's like a kid just runs around all day and

627
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 5: he doesn't get tired. It seems like, so you can't

628
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 5: have enough of that. And then as far as just talent,

629
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 5: I mean kind of speaks for his self. Ball skills,

630
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 5: run after the catch, he's very explosive. He just didn't realize

631
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 5: how exupposed to he was in and out of cuts.

632
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 5: You know, he's impressive to watch, and we've gotten to

633
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 5: connect a couple times.

634
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Speaker 2: It's on.

635
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep getting better and better you know, we've

636
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 5: only worked together for a couple of days now, so

637
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 5: we got some time to really dial in on the details.

638
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars quarterback, discussing his new weapon, Travis Hunter,

639
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 3: wide receiver and defensive back for the Jags. The number

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Speaker 3: two overall pick and welcome back is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 3: JP Shadick, Jeff Logam and Austin Lane Busy scheduled Daily's

642
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 3: Place coming up. Kodak Black replacing Tee Pain May thirty. First,

643
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: we're closing in nine days away from Matt Sticks, Kevin Cronin,

644
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 3: Don Felder, June's Second Old Dominion June sixth a little

645
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: later in the summer. Two nights, not one, but two nights,

646
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Speaker 3: shouldn't I have twain?

647
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Speaker 2: I like it. I'm gonna have to go to one

648
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Speaker 2: of those or two of those.

649
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Speaker 4: It brings me back to like my Thanksgiving days watching

650
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Speaker 4: like the halftime shows. Yes, I felt like she would

651
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 4: always perform on those things, that's right, And then then

652
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Speaker 4: my grand would be like, cover your eyes a little bit, awesome, Yeah,

653
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 4: we're good, I can handle it.

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Speaker 2: Did you make a call yet for the bestselling Yeah?

655
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Speaker 2: We need to.

656
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Speaker 3: We need to work on that all right, I'm in

657
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Speaker 3: if you get the couch. I'm in dailyesplace dot com

658
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Speaker 3: for tickets and show information throughout the summer. She puts

659
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Speaker 3: on a good show too, or she's outstanding. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

660
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Speaker 3: that's why. That's why people are selling it for two nights.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean there are certain people that put on a

663
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Speaker 3: really good show, and it was the one the one

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Speaker 3: country artist that one of the greatest live entertainers of

665
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Speaker 3: all time Brooks, thank you, I got you, I got it.

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Speaker 3: Just a minute, start naming names. I gotta go through

667
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Speaker 3: a lot of files back there, you know to retrieve names.

668
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Speaker 3: You know, the older you get, the more files you

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Speaker 3: have will take you a little longer to retrieve than things.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know.

671
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Speaker 3: But he put supposedly puts on one hell of a show,

672
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Speaker 3: and Shannai Twain is like the female version of him.

673
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Speaker 3: I've heard.

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Speaker 2: I believe that. Yeah, at the same time frame, Yeah,

675
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Speaker 2: it makes sense. Yeah. League owners met this week. A

676
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: lot of voting going on, and one of the items

677
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: that they.

678
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: Have allowed is to permit players to play in flag

679
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: football competition in the twenty twenty eight Olympic Games in

680
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Speaker 3: Los Angeles. The flag football competition will consist of six

681
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Speaker 3: men's teams and six women's teams, ten players per team.

682
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: The game itself is five on five.

683
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 3: NFL player participation with their country's national flag football teams

684
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Speaker 3: will begin with a tryout or qualification process in advance

685
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: of the competition. It'll be held in the Soccer Stadium

686
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Speaker 3: next to the LA Coliseum. One player per NFL team

687
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Speaker 3: maximum plus the designated a national player can compete for

688
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Speaker 3: their home country as well.

689
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Speaker 2: So the question I have, I think it's.

690
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Speaker 3: Probably an easy answer. Which Jaguars player would be the

691
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 3: best candidate for this.

692
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Speaker 2: First?

693
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Speaker 4: I mean I think it's I'm going Travis Hunter because

694
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Speaker 4: if it's flag football, yeah, play offense and defense, Travis

695
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 4: Hunter is fair.

696
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

697
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any doubts.

698
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Speaker 2: Yeah it's Travis yep. Yeah, I mean practice three times. Well,

699
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Speaker 2: it's no, I get that.

700
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Speaker 3: But think about what flag football is, you know, and look,

701
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Speaker 3: let me pull out my Al Bundy impression here, which one.

702
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: I used to play Polk County High School, Okay, and

703
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 3: you know my glory days Okay, I used to actually

704
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Speaker 3: be a flag football coach. Flag football is not a

705
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: physical game. Okay, so the big physical part is not involved.

706
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: So what Trevor just got done talking about a guy

707
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: that never gets tired, a guy that's special coming in

708
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: and out of his breaks, that's got great hands, great ball,

709
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Speaker 3: all skills. He's going to be one of the most

710
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Speaker 3: recognizable athletes. I think immediately once he stepped on to

711
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Speaker 3: the field to play flag football. I think it makes

712
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Speaker 3: sense to be Travis. I mean, and you're right two way,

713
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Speaker 3: then it's a no brainer.

714
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, who would be two? Is the question? Give me,

715
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Speaker 2: give me a great question.

716
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Speaker 3: I mean, because that the number one is a slam

717
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Speaker 3: dunk in my mind.

718
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: If you want to be elusive and all that. I mean,

719
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: Parker Washington right on offense? Okay, sure that one. Maybe maybe,

720
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Speaker 2: I don't know, what do you think alsin?

721
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's secause I'm trying to think who can

722
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Speaker 4: play offensive defense? Because is this how it's gonna work?

723
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Speaker 4: Like you can play both?

724
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Speaker 2: Have ten players five on the field.

725
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Speaker 7: Okay, so you can have some platoon stuff. You can't

726
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Speaker 7: have some specialization you could Okay, you could? You like

727
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Speaker 7: to have somebody that can play if you got two

728
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Speaker 7: for the price.

729
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Speaker 2: Of one, Yeah, Okay, come.

730
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Speaker 4: On then I I lean towards Parker Washington in terms

731
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Speaker 4: of like the wiggle and the shake, because like I

732
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Speaker 4: can say Brian Thomas Junior, but like, is that straight

733
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Speaker 4: away speed is that gonna?

734
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: The flag football game is completely different. And what I'm

736
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Speaker 4: curious about is like we don't really know this, but

737
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Speaker 4: I know it's out there. I've seen it on like

738
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Speaker 4: ESPN ten, like at midnight, like there is like Professional

739
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Speaker 4: Flake Football League.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean it was something like that, but it

741
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 3: was how many did they have anyway back in the day.

742
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 2: It was a few.

743
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Speaker 4: And if this is super late at night, but like

744
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Speaker 4: they have Professional Flake Football League. So my question is,

745
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 4: like are some of those players gonna miss out? I'm

746
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 4: making that Olympic roster, gonna have something to say about

747
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Speaker 4: these NFL guys coming in and kind of taking.

748
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Speaker 3: Their sport away. I'm taking BTJ. I'm gonna take Brian,

749
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Speaker 3: you know. I mean the ability to his deep speed

750
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Speaker 3: ability is something that would have to be contented with,

751
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Speaker 3: and his length I think is a defender. I think

752
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Speaker 3: would be fishing. I think Brian's is a is a

753
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Speaker 3: great athlete. I'm talking a great athlete, all right, here's

754
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Speaker 3: a question. Then who's the quarterback. You don't have to

755
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 3: be super team for the US, you don't have to

756
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 3: be super elusive to think there's any doubt it's Patrick

757
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Speaker 3: Mahomes because he.

758
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Speaker 2: Can throw the ball any which way you want.

759
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Speaker 4: But then do you like Lamar Jackson just in terms

760
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Speaker 4: of shiftiness and being able to run though too. I mean,

761
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Speaker 4: he's got he's got the arm capabilities, I would think,

762
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Speaker 4: But I mean, do you want the guy that can

763
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Speaker 4: throw it to a guy like Travis Hunter and Brian

764
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Speaker 4: Thomas Jr. Do you want a guy that can I mean,

765
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Speaker 4: that's a great debate. It's a great debate because you're right,

766
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Speaker 4: I mean, the leg threat in flag football, then you

767
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Speaker 4: would sit there and go, okay, Lamar. But I think

768
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Speaker 4: that it comes down to Lamar and Patrick. I don't

769
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Speaker 4: think anybody else would even be now if we're turning

770
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Speaker 4: back the clock. I take Michael Vick ol oh, yeah,

771
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Speaker 4: in his prime and his prime.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, I take Michael Vick.

773
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Speaker 3: I take Lamarro or Michael Vick any day of the week.

774
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Speaker 2: I know, I'm just trying to get the fly it

775
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Speaker 2: improved and better. Michael Vick.

776
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Speaker 3: In my mind, the only other guy I think that

777
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Speaker 3: would be under consideration probably Josh Allen, Right, I mean

778
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Speaker 3: I don't see anybody else.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's got the arm talent for sure, and

780
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Speaker 4: the grand the guy can run for sure. But like

781
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Speaker 4: I think Josh Allen, I don't see shiftiness with Josh.

782
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Speaker 4: Like I think the name of the game in flake football.

783
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Speaker 4: This is coming from somebody who hasn't played flake football

784
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 4: and I don't know twenty years, but I feel like

785
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 4: the name of the game is like shiftiness and being

786
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Speaker 4: able to wiggle.

787
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Speaker 3: Can you imagine, you know, because all these guys that

788
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 3: played flag football professionally, now we're talking about, Oh, we

789
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 3: can't have these NFL guys coming in. They're not as

790
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Speaker 3: good as us. They don't do it. They've never seen

791
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Speaker 3: anybody like Lamar Jackson or Travis Hunter or Tyreek Hill

792
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 3: run out of them or Tyreek Yeah.

793
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Speaker 2: They think they know. They don't know. These guys are

794
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: still working other jobs as well.

795
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Speaker 4: They don't you know, you know, they don't support themselves

796
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,720
Speaker 4: in their play football fantasies.

797
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Speaker 2: And meanwhile, you got, you know, Lamar Jackson getting paid

798
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: a lot of money.

799
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Speaker 3: This is a different planet.

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Speaker 2: I played intermural flag football in Alabama. Okay, I was.

801
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Speaker 3: We were a terrible team offensive lineman sometimes and it

802
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 3: was pillized so much from my big mouth and talking

803
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Speaker 3: to the refs.

804
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: Now it didn't go well. I lasted one season. Imagine

805
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Speaker 2: that I wasn't asked.

806
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 4: Back, so JP obviously Alabama is very rich football tradition.

807
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 4: Is that the same thing an intermural? Like did you

808
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 4: have to like make the roster?

809
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 2: Did you have to? It was a trial?

810
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 4: We were terrible, okay, we were just a bad team

811
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Speaker 4: playing for pride then more than anything.

812
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, just to run around.

813
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Speaker 3: And get a work out in the question I think

814
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 3: that's going to be interesting to me is are you

815
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 3: going to be allowed to protect anybody as a team?

816
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: Oh?

817
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, who are the guys that you're That's all good question,

818
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? I mean, if what is

819
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 3: the selection process? Let's say an organization you know, or

820
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: or each NFL team may be allowed to protect one

821
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 3: player to keep them from being picked for the flag.

822
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 3: I mean, because look, if you're Kansas City, do you

823
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 3: really want and if you're Baltimore, do you want your

824
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 3: quarterback risking? I mean, you're you're paying these guys sixty

825
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 3: dollars a year. Are you wanting to put them or

826
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Speaker 3: them at risk? And what happens with if in the

827
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Speaker 3: event there is an injury.

828
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Speaker 2: Oh not, if there's an injury, shut it all down.

829
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Speaker 4: Then if there's one injury, I feel like every NFL

830
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 4: team will go Nope, our guys are done playing.

831
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 3: But will they give the team? You know, going back

832
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Speaker 3: to the first years of free agency, it was called

833
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: Plan B and you are allowed to protect certain guys

834
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 3: uh or expose certain guys for the free agent period

835
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 3: and then you could protect guys. Obviously, with the franchise

836
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 3: tag and the transition tag, are you gonna have the

837
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 3: ability to do something like that to where you can say, hey, look,

838
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: this guy to our franchise is everything. We don't want

839
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Speaker 3: to expose him to flag football.

840
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Speaker 2: We don't care. You can't take him. Yeah, it wouldn't

841
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: be a bad idea.

842
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: Just if you're the owner of an NFL team, would

843
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 3: you want to have that ability?

844
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 4: I think if I'm an owner, I would yeah. But

845
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 4: if I'm a player and your chance to represent your

846
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 4: country on the biggest stage ever, if an owner tells

847
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 4: me no, I can't do that, I'm gonna feel a

848
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 4: certain type of way about that.

849
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna it's gonna be interesting to see

850
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 3: how this all works out.

851
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: Ye, I think it's gonna I like it, I trust me.

852
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 3: I like the idea of NFL players being involved in

853
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 3: Olympic flag football.

854
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 2: We'll see what this, what happens with this moving ahead.

855
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: But there were a couple other changes as well, the

856
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 3: NFL approving on side kicks.

857
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: In any quarter. Now you have to declare it, but

858
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 2: now you can do it in any quarter. And I believe.

859
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, the onside kick will now be from the thirty

860
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Speaker 3: four yard line, not to thirty five, so nine yards.

861
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Speaker 2: Away from the opposition. That brings a little bit closer.

862
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Speaker 3: We're talking about changing the alignment to of some of

863
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: the some of the players on the onside kick. I

864
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 3: think there was some discussion about that to make it

865
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 3: a greater possibility of an onside kick being successful. Don't

866
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: see that here, Okay, I don't know if they there

867
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 3: was talk of that.

868
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Speaker 2: The Lions playoff reseating proposal was tabled at the last minute,

869
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Speaker 2: Thank goodness.

870
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Speaker 3: Goodell's in favor of that, and I don't quite get that,

871
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Speaker 3: you know, when I see Roger in London this year

872
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 3: because I see him every year and have a conversations

873
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 3: telling him, I'm gonna ask him, I would like to

874
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 3: know why he's so so in favor of kind of

875
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: eliminating the importance of division championships, you know. And they

876
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: seem to think, because what they're talking about seating is

877
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 3: that let's say you have a team and another division

878
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 3: other than the Jaguars, and their teams better than the Jaguars,

879
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 3: that they would be seated higher than the Jaguars, and

880
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: they weren't a division winner, and the Jaguars were sure.

881
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 4: But my see, and actually I agree with Roger Goodell

882
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 4: a little bit here because if you win your division,

883
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 4: that means you get an automatic ticket to the playoffs.

884
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: Like that's a reward.

885
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 4: But I have a hard time justifying a team that

886
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 4: has a losing record that they get rewarded to host

887
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 4: a home playoff game.

888
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 2: I don't think that's right. Well, they won the division.

889
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 4: I think they won the division, but they stop a

890
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 4: losing record. They won the division, so then they go

891
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 4: to the playoffs, get game.

892
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: Division.

893
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 4: Now you get to go to the playoffs, congratulations, But

894
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 4: you can't host the home game if you have a

895
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 4: losing record.

896
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 3: Why not you want the division you go to the playoffs.

897
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 3: Not my team's fault. The rest of the division sucks.

898
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 3: I hear, it's not my fault.

899
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: Where you know seven and nine or whatever won the division.

900
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 2: Keep going. I liked it. I mean, come on, man,

901
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 2: keep going. Division titles matter.

902
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 4: The division titles do matter, and that's why you're going

903
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 4: to the playoffs. If we're going to rank teams with records,

904
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 4: because the record does, right, the better team with the

905
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 4: better record should be able to host a home game, then.

906
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 2: Win the division. Sorry, the Lions are better than the Viking.

907
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: The argument, don't lose win okay.

908
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 3: The argument is what the people that are in favor

909
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: of having seeding be more about record less about division

910
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 3: championships is that it would be more compelling football at

911
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 3: the end of the year. I don't necessarily agree with that,

912
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 3: because winning the division and not winning the division is

913
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: compelling football, and seeding is still at stake, regardless of

914
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 3: whether or not you're going to be advancing as the

915
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 3: four seed because you didn't win the division or did

916
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 3: win the division, or anything of that nature. But I

917
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: like division importance just because it's been that way forever. Sure,

918
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 3: it's tradition, and I believe that tradition means something in

919
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 3: this game.

920
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 4: Well it did, and they they outlawed the kick. I mean, listen,

921
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 4: tradition sounds great and everything, but they're constantly changing all

922
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 4: the rules. And I think if we talk about in

923
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 4: terms of the record, right and in terms of who's

924
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 4: better seated, I think it's more incentive to play guys

925
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 4: the entire season then, because we see too many times

926
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 4: where there's two games left, the game left, and team

927
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 4: want to sit players because why, it's already set in stone.

928
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: We're good, we want the division, We're gonna get a

929
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: home game. We're all good.

930
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 4: Now what happens if you say, you know what, just

931
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 4: because we want a division in a bad division, doesn't

932
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 4: mean we get a home playoff game.

933
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 2: So we still have something to play for. That's what

934
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 2: it's all about.

935
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 4: I don't want to tune into whatever week seventeen, week

936
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 4: eighteen and see guys sit out where it's like a

937
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 4: preseason game.

938
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: I want to see him play through. If we have

939
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: losing record and getting the playoffs anyway, what are they

940
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: playing for. If you have a losing record and you

941
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 2: want your division, you're still getting in, right, but the

942
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 2: team that doesn't right behind them.

943
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 4: But okay, say you had like two seven win teams

944
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,959
Speaker 4: right fighting for a division and like maybe like there's

945
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 4: like a tie break already, like they're gonna sit out.

946
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, Yeah, I don't want to Yeah, I would

947
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 2: sit him too. Yeah. It's a great argument.

948
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: I mean, and I look, I don't want to say

949
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 3: I can go either way on this because I don't

950
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: because again, I like the tradition of the division. But

951
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 3: I understand your point and that the better the team

952
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 3: should get a reward for being a better team. Let's

953
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 3: come back in a moment. Jim Mercey passed away owner

954
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: of the Indianapolis Colts. We'll get to that and our

955
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 3: final thoughts when we return on ten TENEXXL Jaguars dot Com,

956
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 3: Jaguars YouTube, it's Jaguars Happy Hour.

957
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Speaker 6: I actually thought they they did some really good things today.

958
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 6: I thought, just from a communications standpoint, punching the ball out,

959
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 6: doing it in the right way though, right, we had

960
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 6: a couple guys just trying to be intentional about getting

961
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 6: the ball out and getting their hands on the football.

962
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 6: Something that we're actively trying to be intentional about. This

963
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 6: whole offseason, and I thought the defensive staff has done

964
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 6: a great job of communicating that in the meeting settings.

965
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 6: Bringing it out to the practice field, I thought that

966
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 6: they did a nice job kind of setting a line

967
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 6: of scrimmage, playing with length on the D line, and

968
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 6: you know, the ball was out. I mean, the ball

969
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 6: was on the ground too many times for us offensively,

970
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 6: but hey, on the flip side of it, that's the

971
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 6: first time as a head coach you actually kind of

972
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 6: have to be very neutral in those moments where I'm

973
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 6: kind of ticked off that the ball is on the

974
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 6: ground from an offensive standpoint, But ultimately, man defense did

975
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 6: a nice job of getting the ball out today for us.

976
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 3: Liam Cohen, Jaguars head coach, after Monday's organized team activities

977
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 3: practiced Welcome Back Final Moments of Jaguars Happy Hour presented

978
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,560
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979
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Speaker 2: Sweet Sunglasses by Liam Cohen. By the way, too, I'm

980
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 2: not mad at those good choices, no, but just a.

981
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 3: Real quick comment on what he's talking about about the

982
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: defense forcing the ball. Well, for some takeaways there, if

983
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 3: you go back and you remember the traits of the

984
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: green Bay Packers defense. Okay, last year it was one

985
00:45:55,640 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 3: of the most well coached, fundamentally sound football defense in

986
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 3: the National Football League. And they were also really good

987
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 3: at taking the ball away. If that's what Anthony Campanelli

988
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: can bring to this Jaguars defense after the debacle that

989
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 3: happened last year here, I can't wait to see him

990
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: play because Green Bay they never gave you a crack

991
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 3: to where they would show you any kind of deficiency

992
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 3: in their defense when you watch the film on them,

993
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 3: they were just solid, every single play, communicated, always on

994
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 3: the same page. And I can't wait to see this

995
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 3: defense kind of evolve.

996
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 4: I think when you talk about that Green Bay defense,

997
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 4: you talk about and this is one of the most

998
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 4: cliche things. I'm sure heard it many times before, Jeff,

999
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 4: but it's ben don't break right and very rarely did

1000
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 4: I ever watch a lot of Packers games, and I

1001
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 4: saw a lot of explosive plays. Well, how many explosive

1002
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 4: plays did you see last year against this Jaguars defense,

1003
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 4: whether it was in the run game or the past

1004
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 4: NFL high Yeah, NFL high exactly. So that needs to

1005
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 4: be brought down by a bunch if you want to

1006
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 4: have a chance to win football games. I think you

1007
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 4: bring that game Bay philosophy over here, you have a chance.

1008
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 3: Jim Ursay passed away yesterday at the age of sixty five,

1009
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: the owner of the Indianapolis Colts, of course, the son

1010
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 3: of the legendary owner of the Baltimore Colts. They moved

1011
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 3: the franchise to Indianapolis. Jim Irsay started as a ball

1012
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: boy back in the old days and stayed with the organization.

1013
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 3: Certainly was the VP and GM in the late eighties

1014
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: and into the nineties, and then took over his owner

1015
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 3: when his father passed away in nineteen ninety seven. They've

1016
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 3: seen really high success, certainly with the franchise in Indianapolis,

1017
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 3: with the Super Bowl Championship, the franchise quarterbacks plural in

1018
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 3: his time there, a new stadium, Lucas Oil Stadium. There

1019
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 3: were moments of issues for Jim Irsay in his personal

1020
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 3: life as well, but passed away in his sleep yesterday

1021
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 3: afternoon at the age of sixty five.

1022
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 2: Locks.

1023
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was interesting reading all the different stories

1024
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 3: from different people that worked within that organization. And he

1025
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: was eccentric, very centric, had his flaws, like you said,

1026
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 3: and his flaws were many and sometimes at the forefront

1027
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: of people's minds when sometimes he hit the front page headlines.

1028
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 3: But you know, you read the stories from Peyton Manning

1029
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 3: to Tony Dungee to the equipment guys, etc. How caring

1030
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 3: and giving that he was truly impressive. And one of

1031
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 3: the moments that I really appreciated out of him was

1032
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: some of the honest moments that he had when he

1033
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 3: was willing to speak out on certain things when other

1034
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: owners were not as likely to speak out. And I

1035
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 3: appreciated his honesty in particularly going back to the Daniel

1036
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 3: Snyder thing. I thought that was a big thing, and

1037
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 3: a lot of people looked at that as like.

1038
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: Ah, you got to keep quiet.

1039
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, he's got to be honest, and if

1040
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 3: that's what you believe, speak your mind.

1041
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: And he did. Yeah.

1042
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's one of the bittersweet facts

1043
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 4: of life that when somebody passes away, you find out

1044
00:48:59,239 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 4: how amazing they are.

1045
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: Right, And I didn't really know who Jim Mersay was.

1046
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 4: I mean, reading the headlines and everything, but hearing all

1047
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 4: these stories of how he gave back to the community

1048
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 4: and how much he cared about that city of Indianapolis. Yeah,

1049
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 4: he's obviously gonna be missed there and everything, and then

1050
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 4: to kind of, you know, echo off what Jeff was saying.

1051
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 4: I mean, he was one of the very first voices

1052
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 4: to speak up over Dan Snyder. And I always feel like,

1053
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 4: you know, when you when you become a billionaire, you

1054
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 4: almost have to act a certain way, right, You're almost

1055
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 4: like in this fraternity where you gotta gotta do things

1056
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 4: a certain way by the book. And I feel like

1057
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 4: Jim Mersay didn't do that. I feel like Jim Mersay

1058
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 4: was more of like the every day man where yeah,

1059
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 4: he got a billion dollars, but he's still going to

1060
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 4: do his thing, whether that's talking about music and celebrating

1061
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 4: all the guitars that he had or making crazy viral

1062
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 4: videos like that dude marched to the beat of his

1063
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 4: own drum, and more power.

1064
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: To him for doing that.

1065
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 3: And he has this music collection as well of instruments

1066
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 3: that actually toured the country with it and from all

1067
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 3: the like two hundred guitars and Beatles, memorabilia and all

1068
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 3: these things that he collected as a pastor. He spent

1069
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 3: a lot of mone honey on a lot of that stuff.

1070
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see the direction of the franchise,

1071
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 3: you know, because we all have had some experience, probably

1072
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 3: with inheritance.

1073
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 2: Tax and everything else. You've got three daughters. What will

1074
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 2: be the future of the franchise, We don't know. We

1075
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 2: will find out. Austin will see you soon. I'll see

1076
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: you guys soon. See when I see a couple of weeks,

1077
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks back. That's Austin Lane. That's Jeff Logman.

1078
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Speaker 2: I'm J. P.

1079
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Speaker 3: Shaddick And thanks to Brook Hoffy, Brent Reever, Joe Fortunato,

1080
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Speaker 3: Thanks to you for listening. It's Jaguars Happy Hour.