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Speaker 3: noon Pacific time here on the Monday after a wild

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Speaker 3: Fourth of July week?

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Speaker 4: What do you mean a wild pre A while, a

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Speaker 4: wild pre show meeting of the mines, and I mean

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Speaker 4: we could have did a three hour show on the industry,

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Speaker 4: but you know, behind the scenes storylines, I mean they're

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Speaker 4: really doozy. Yeah, definitely, mister Celsius. I blame Celsius.

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Speaker 5: I love y'all's drinks, though it is Uh, it's been

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Speaker 5: a How was the fourth of July weekend. Huh did

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Speaker 5: you do it? Because here's the probably. It's on a weekend.

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Speaker 5: It started on a friday, so you just gave people

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Speaker 5: an excuse to get butchered for two days after you.

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Speaker 4: Heard the wildest story. So we got a rooftop lounge

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Speaker 4: on my house. Right, So we're going upstairs. Everything, well,

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Speaker 4: it must not be. We were up there, we're hanging

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Speaker 4: out and the way it's set up, you can't see

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Speaker 4: us up there. So if something's going on up there,

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Speaker 4: you can maybe hear it. Possibly, or if you do

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Speaker 4: something like say we were to shoot fireworks off or

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Speaker 4: something like that, you might have an idea that, Okay,

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Speaker 4: they can get up on the roof whatever. Right, but

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Speaker 4: it's a balcony, it's it's a rooftop lone. So we

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Speaker 4: go up there and we have one of those. We

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Speaker 4: have a safe portable fire pit. Fire pit gets let

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Speaker 4: lit up. But here's what, here's the problem. The girls

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Speaker 4: go up to do it and they put five door

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Speaker 4: of flames on there. Five so you got this big

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Speaker 4: ass flame and the flame was giving off black smoke. Right,

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Speaker 4: So we're sitting up there, we're listening to music, we're

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Speaker 4: having a good time. We're looking we can see all

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Speaker 4: of the fireworks from the piers in the beach City,

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Speaker 4: South Bay all the way out to wherever Orange County.

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Speaker 4: You could just see all of the fireworks going off.

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Speaker 4: So we're watching the fireworks and.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, man, these these firemen are going the police

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Speaker 6: are going to have a busy night because you could

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Speaker 6: see the random fire works going up right, which, by

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Speaker 6: the way, fireworks in la is really a thing.

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Speaker 5: Bro Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: I heard fireworks from nine a m. Literally non stop

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Speaker 5: Yeah, white people light fireworks off during the day. I

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Speaker 4: Anyway, back to my point, so the fire's going up,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, man, firemen, cops, they're gonna have to

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Speaker 4: And sure enough you see a fire engine come out,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh man, you hear some fireworks going off

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Speaker 4: in our area. So it's like the firemen come up

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Speaker 4: Something going on right Then I looked at our fire pit.

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Speaker 4: I was like, this fire is high. They drive past

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Speaker 5: I was like, yep, they coming here.

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Speaker 4: and they were really really cool. I'm big time, you know,

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Speaker 5: So I walk them.

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Speaker 4: Man, we walk up, they look at it, They're like, man,

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Speaker 4: everything's cool. He's like, but your neighbors are freaking out.

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Speaker 5: Look it up out of high house.

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Speaker 4: They thought that bad boy was burning down. So anyways,

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Speaker 5: You know what blows my mind the number of people

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Speaker 5: that decide, knowing all the warning signs, knowing all the dangers,

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Speaker 5: seeing all the injuries, seeing all that, and still being like,

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Speaker 5: you got it this year, I got it. Don't warn

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Speaker 5: Let's let's fire off four or five mortar bombs within

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Speaker 5: close proximity to somebody's house, children in cars and just

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Speaker 5: but in La everybody was. Yeah, they were.

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Speaker 4: I mean from nine am, literally from nine am to

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Speaker 5: From nine to one am so growing up in southern California.

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Speaker 5: And two you might remember this, But it used to

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Speaker 5: be if you wanted to get fireworks, you had to

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Speaker 5: go to a place called Fillmore. Then you have to

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Speaker 5: go somewhere out the Yeah, you gotta go to Film Country.

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Speaker 5: It's you can drive all the way inland to this

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Speaker 5: small town of Fillmore. By the way, I'll Pescador, a

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Speaker 5: great Mexican spot out there. But that was the place.

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Speaker 5: If you if somebody told you, hey, I'm going to Fillmore,

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Speaker 5: it's like, oh, hey, bring me back a Roman candle,

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Speaker 5: like a box of Piccolo Pete's. Like it was like

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Speaker 5: this undercover, under the radar spot that you would go

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Speaker 5: to get fireworks. Now now it seems like you can

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Speaker 5: get them anywhere. Like somebody's got like a trunk, then

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Speaker 5: they're selling fireworks out of them. Like there's some rock

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Speaker 5: shirts out of the back of their car. Crazy they get.

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Speaker 4: Fireworks, rocket launchers, grenade launchers.

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Speaker 5: I don't understand, oozies.

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Speaker 4: It's just it used to be really hard to get

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Speaker 5: There's some fireworks right there. Like I was like, over

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Speaker 5: the weekend, I was talking Isaac Lohancrawn, who's an anchor

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Speaker 5: here at Fox Sports Radio, and Isaac was telling me, so, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 5: we have a fireworks alley. I was like, what's that.

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Speaker 5: He goes, oh, yeah, it's an alley near our place

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Speaker 5: and people light off fireworks there. And he sent me

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Speaker 5: a video. I'm like, oh, you mean all this illegal

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Speaker 5: activity on video? You mean all that? He no, no, no.

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Speaker 5: Sheriff came by and said, hey, you guys are good.

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Speaker 5: Enjoy your Fourth of July. I won't tell you what.

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Speaker 5: Wait what that's just all of a sudden allowed. But

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Speaker 5: apparently that's what Fourth is July turned into. I will

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Speaker 5: say some of the dopest fireworks shows. One is in

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Speaker 5: State College, the one they do at Beaver State. It's

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Speaker 5: it's like connected and then sync with like music. It's

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Speaker 5: pretty dope, man, Like, if you're able to go to

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Speaker 5: a fireworks show that's like really a show, like even

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Speaker 5: the one at Disney they do every night. Yeah, oh

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Speaker 5: that's what the lasers and fireworks and on a crazy man,

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Speaker 5: when you could do it when somebody's doing it, right.

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Speaker 5: I've never got any type of a rush or any

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Speaker 4: I just rather watch them. It's never been a thing

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Speaker 5: Like, I gotta like this baptist, let's do it like.

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Speaker 5: That's just never been my thing. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know why that is, but but

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Speaker 4: some people really really get off on letting off on

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Speaker 5: Man, they love seeing the they lighten the fuse. N

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Speaker 5: It's like, dude, augusta win, that thing tilts over and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just seeing it all on social media

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Speaker 5: Like what you doing it?

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Speaker 5: I always tell this story, but I remember reading about this.

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Speaker 5: how the ending of that story went. Uh, he wasn't

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Speaker 4: There was a couple of dudes that was lighting them

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Speaker 5: The man's jewels was in his belly by the time.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's the dumbest thing that people do to

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Speaker 4: try to go viral sometimes is during the fourth of

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Speaker 4: July fourth of July weekends that they it's crazy what

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's it's I don't I don't understand it.

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Speaker 5: And I would also say this, if you want to

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Speaker 5: be out there, let me just little little recommendation. You

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Speaker 5: go to Navy Peer. There's a restaurant at Navy Peer

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Speaker 5: right up on top and during the summertime, they light

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Speaker 5: off fireworks two days a week. It's awesome And the

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Speaker 5: best part is professionals are doing it.

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Speaker 4: Go figure, it's not How many professionals do you think

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Speaker 4: do the fireworks during the course of a fourth of

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Speaker 5: Less than one percent? Yeah, less than one percent. All

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Speaker 5: I know is.

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Speaker 4: You can't comprehend it unless you lived it.

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Speaker 5: Nine a m. I was awaken.

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Speaker 4: My windows are open and I'm listening and I hear

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Speaker 4: it's not non stop, And at first I didn't know

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Speaker 5: Hey what's up everybody?

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Speaker 4: It's me three time pro bowler LeVar Arrington and I

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Speaker 5: Justin Fields is the starting quarterback for the New York Jets.

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Speaker 7: Getting to know him up close as a teammate has

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Speaker 5: what the.

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Speaker 4: Dynamic is between ownership and culture of the new head coach.

436
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 4: If the if the new head coach has an opportunity

437
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 4: to build the culture in an organic, strong intentional way, yes,

438
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 4: all of them have an opportunity to have success, to

439
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 4: have it right away with the amount of talent that

440
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 4: they have. But the big if here is if ownership

441
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 4: and culture remains the same and it continues to you know,

442
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 4: keep keep them in, you know, like bumpers and and

443
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 4: and playing playing uh bowling. Right, if you have the

444
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 4: bumpers up and you're you're you're really restricting them and

445
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 4: what it is they're able to do.

446
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Speaker 5: I don't think there will be enough growth.

447
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 4: I don't think there will be enough positivity and structure

448
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 4: for it to turn into the culture uh that Aaron

449
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 4: Glenn is probably hoping that he's able to do.

450
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Speaker 5: By the way, sidebar on that if you're an adult.

451
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 5: In fact, I'll just put it this way, anybody over

452
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 5: the age of nine, if you use bumpers when you bowl,

453
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 5: you should be arrested immediately. And I'm talking at least

454
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 5: a month behind, like like hard time. You can't really

455
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 5: bowl if you're a real bowler. There's no possible way

456
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 5: you can bowl legitimately. If you're a real bowler and

457
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 5: you have you can't be taken serious. You can't be

458
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 5: taken serious. Yeah, you just can't spin it.

459
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 4: You can't spin it the way that unless you're spinning

460
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 4: it directly down the center triangle or maybe the second

461
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 4: triangle out you can get it, but it's not going

462
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 4: to be as good an angle if you're gonna spin

463
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 4: that bad boy, and it's going to go out to

464
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 4: that like third fourth triangle on on the you know

465
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 4: what is it on the on the rumway or whatever

466
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 4: you call it. The lanes, the lanes, that's that's you

467
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 4: can't have that because you're going to hit the bumper. Yeah,

468
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 4: I would agree with you. I'm just just making sure.

469
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Speaker 5: So the Jets side of this, like I, I am

470
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Speaker 5: skeptical that Justin Field has this success and you know,

471
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 5: like Andre Cisco says, well, we're going to see him.

472
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 5: You know, I can't wait till he's going to prove

473
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 5: a lot of people wrong. All right, Well, I'm skeptical

474
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 5: of it, as you laid out, because of what's going

475
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 5: on around him. Because the Jets have had a lot

476
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 5: of talent over the years. Joe Douglas drafted, Well, they've

477
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 5: had a lot of talent there. And I'm always a

478
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 5: believer of Listen, it's not about the furniture. It's about

479
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 5: the foundation. All right. If you've got really nice furniture

480
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 5: in the home, but the foundation is cracking, sooner or later,

481
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 5: that stuff's getting getting sucked down into a sinkhole somewhere.

482
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 5: It's just gonna happen. And I look at it and

483
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 5: I go, yeah, he's got all the talents. There's talent there,

484
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 5: there's pieces there, there's a reason why Rogers was open

485
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 5: to going there because he saw that, man, this is

486
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 5: a place where we could win. They've drafted well and

487
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 5: the whole thing was disaster. But let's just say hypothetical,

488
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 5: Justin Fields thrives in New York. That's a really bad

489
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 5: look for a Aaron Rodgers and a really bad look

490
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 5: for Mike Tomlin, because Mike Tomlin reportedly was the guy

491
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 5: who said no, no, no, we're going to stick with

492
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 5: Russ the entire way, there were people there like Arthur Smith,

493
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 5: the offensive coordinator in Pittsburgh, who wanted Justin Fields to

494
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 5: take over. There was a lot of people there who

495
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 5: didn't want Justin Fields to lose the job at all.

496
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 5: And if all of a sudden he decides because the

497
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 5: Jets get because the Steelers gave him a low ball

498
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 5: offer reportedly to go to the Jets, and the guy

499
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 5: that was in the building that people were telling Mike

500
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 5: Tomlin should be the starter, goes to the Jets, of

501
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 5: all places, and thrives. That's a really bad look for

502
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers. Which is another subplot to

503
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 5: this whole matchup and this whole situation.

504
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 4: As a season player, what I'll say is he's never

505
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 4: come close to breaking three thousand yards passing the ball.

506
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 4: He did not show the ability to push the ball

507
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 4: downfield at a level that moved people to have the

508
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 4: belief that he's the long term answer. Just the reality

509
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 4: of what took place last year. Now, if that had

510
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 4: something to do with the play calling or that has

511
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 4: something to do outside of him, I don't know, but

512
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 4: he what worked against him was when Russ got in,

513
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 4: he was pushing the ball downfield and they were having

514
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 4: success when he got in, and that early success. Whoever

515
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 4: made the decision, it made the decision, which Mike Tomlin

516
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 4: put himself out in front of it and said it

517
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 4: was his decision. It made him look like he made

518
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 4: a really good decision. Now what that looked like, or

519
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 4: what it looks like moving forward from what it looked

520
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 4: like moving forward with Russ, they did not bring Russ back.

521
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 4: So Russ did not do a great enough job where

522
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin putting himself out front of him saying Russ

523
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 4: is our guy, that did not equate to him coming

524
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 4: back and being part of the Pittsburgh Steelers for this

525
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 4: next upcoming season. Now, when I look at Justin fields.

526
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 4: I think it's a tremendous risk to think that he's

527
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 4: going to go from a sub he gets to two thousands.

528
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 4: The highest he's ever gotten in passing yards is twenty

529
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 4: five hundred yards in passing the ball. That's not very

530
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 4: impressive at all. Damn is that impressive? Is that impressive?

531
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 4: It's not, you know, I mean, I mean, guys, guys

532
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 4: challenge Saquan almost ran for how many yards? The bottom

533
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 4: line here is that I don't think you're going to

534
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 4: get to the next level of competition with a quarterback

535
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 4: that can't break three thousand yards plus throwing the ball

536
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 4: during the course of a season. I don't think you

537
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: can call somebody an elite passer that can be a

538
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 4: franchise guy for you if they can't break and have

539
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 4: those types of seasons where they produce more than.

540
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 5: Seventeen touchdowns in a season. It's just not to me.

541
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 4: It's a it's a stretch, and it's a long shot

542
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 4: to think that at this point you're actually going to

543
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 4: be able to see justin fields, be this quarterback that

544
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 4: we've never seen at the pro level.

545
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all about him using his legs like that's

546
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 5: always been his what separates him from everybody else. When

547
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 5: he had those huge, big plays in Chicago, it was

548
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 5: all about him using his legs. When you know, there

549
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 5: was a game his final year in Chicago where everyone said, man,

550
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 5: this is why they got to keep Justin Fields and

551
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 5: trade the number one pick because he had one game

552
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 5: late in the year against Atlanta and he was lights

553
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 5: out unbelievable. But then the next week they finished the

554
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 5: season at Green Bay and it was the same sort

555
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 5: of Justin Fields that you've seen. And when you bring

556
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 5: up the which which makes me think about this as

557
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 5: well too, when you because there's almost like a like

558
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 5: a triangular quarterback storyline to watch, and it's how does

559
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 5: Justin Fields do? How does Aaron Rodgers do? How does

560
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 5: Russell Wilson do? Because they're all kind of connected in

561
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 5: a weird way to where Rogers had conversation with Brian

562
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 5: day Ball. They have, you know, a great amount of

563
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 5: respect for each other. Russell Wilson's now with the Giants,

564
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 5: Justin Field's and the Jets, Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers

565
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 5: I don't even recall, and we talked about this at

566
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 5: the time. Did Pittsburgh even try and make an offer

567
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 5: or an effort to keep Russell Wilson. I know they did.

568
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 5: Justin Field. I didn't hear that. I don't think they

569
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 5: even tried. I did not hear that, which, like you

570
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 5: look at those three quarterbacks, you go, well, Justin Fields

571
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 5: hasn't really proven it, you know, Rogers, you know, seems

572
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 5: like the end is near. Russe really wants to keep

573
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 5: playing and really and Pittsburgh didn't even try and keep

574
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 5: Russell Wilson, Like there wasn't even a discussion about it.

575
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 5: It was like, oh, cool, he wants to come back here. Nice.

576
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 5: He doesn't get along with the offensive coordinator. So all

577
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 5: three of those teams are kind of all connected in

578
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 5: this weird way and look, like I said, I hope

579
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 5: it works out for Justin Fields. I'd like to see

580
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 5: him get an opportunity. It'd be nice if the New

581
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 5: York Jets had some stability and we're back, they're winning

582
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 5: ways like they were when Rex Ryan was there. I'm

583
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 5: just skeptical, man. And I also think, could you imagine

584
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 5: being a Jets fan knowing deep down in your soul

585
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 5: when you talk to people close to you, knowing, I'm

586
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 5: never gonna see my favorite team win a Super Bowl.

587
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 5: What's that feeling like, well, especially when your favorite Oh

588
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 5: they don't dang. I mean, I don't know.

589
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 4: I don't want to make this about the Steelers either,

590
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 4: but I mean, if you think about it, there's a consistency.

591
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett's best year in Pittsburgh was in twenty twenty two,

592
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 4: twenty four hundred yards all right, Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson

593
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 4: had no more than two thousand. Oh, Justin Fields didn't

594
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 4: break two thousand in Pittsburgh. But but Russell Wilson had

595
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 4: what I believe to be twenty five hundred as well.

596
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 4: So nobody is breaking Nobody is breaking the bank on

597
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 4: passing yards and Pittsburgh, which begs for the question of

598
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 4: what is what is the idea of what you had

599
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 4: twenty four hundred, two and eighty two yards for Russell

600
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 4: Wilson last year, last season. Nobody's getting a ton of

601
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 4: yards passing the ball from Pickett to Justin Fields to

602
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson.

603
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, they haven't. Pittsburgh hasn't had an answer at quarterbacks

604
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 5: since probably second to last year of Big Ben because

605
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 5: I think the last year it was a little rough.

606
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 5: They tried to draft Kenny Pickett to make that work.

607
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 5: That didn't work at all. That that fell apart and

608
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 5: he ended up elsewhere. And then they bring in Russell

609
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 5: Wilson and Justin Fields because it was on the cheap.

610
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 5: Justin Fields, they were winning games. But Russell Wilson came

611
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 5: back from the injury that he was that he was

612
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 5: dealing with. I believe there's a calf issue in training camp.

613
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 5: And then he came back and yeah, he did give

614
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 5: them a threat to throw deep. He gave them something

615
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 5: down the field, but it just they haven't had an

616
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 5: answer there.

617
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Speaker 4: In six seven years, twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four,

618
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 4: you have had three quarterbacks play for your team, and

619
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 4: now going into twenty five, you will have four. Yeah

620
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 4: to me again, Now, if I'm the New York Jets,

621
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 4: I'm saying I Am going to have a measured feeling

622
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 4: of confidence towards Justin Fields. But at least he's younger,

623
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 4: he still has an athletic ability about him, and the

624
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 4: possibilities of his trajectory still going up. Trending up is

625
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 4: a possibility because I don't feel like guys are being

626
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 4: utilized the right way in the Steelers' offensive system. That

627
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 4: would be what I'm thinking. If I'm the New York Giants,

628
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 4: and that's what I'm thinking. If I'm the New York Jets,

629
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 4: and that's what I'm thinking, if I'm the Cleveland Browns.

630
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 4: And to me, now we get an opportunity to have

631
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 4: comps in terms of what is Russell Wilson going to

632
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 4: do this year? What is Kenny Pickett going to do

633
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 4: this year? What is Justin Phil's going to do this year?

634
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 4: And all of those things will relate back in a

635
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 4: way to what's taking place in Pittsburgh and what Aaron

636
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 4: Rodgers is doing in Pittsburgh and how they're coaching things

637
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh. I'm curious, Ken, Aaron Rodgers break three thousand

638
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 4: yards throwing the ball in Pittsburgh this year?

639
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I should. You're saying, yay, he should if

640
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 5: he stays healthy. I think he will. Well, let's see

641
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 5: it is the last three quarterbacks there have not done it.

642
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 5: And they're not Aaron Rodgers.

643
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 4: I get that, but the last three quarterbacks and Russell

644
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 4: Wilson isn't a bad name. He's got the same amount

645
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 4: of Super Bowls as him. I mean, listen, Mason Rudolph

646
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 4: might have done it if he didn't get as salted

647
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 4: by Miles Garrett. You never know things are us which

648
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 4: you want to take it to, Sir.

649
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Speaker 5: Here on this Monday morning, after a long holiday weekend.

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Speaker 5: I got it first after a long I don't know

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Speaker 5: why we can't just be happy for Deshaun Watson. Why

665
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Speaker 5: do you have to be so negative about the whole thing?

666
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 5: The guy got married. Congratulations Deshaun Watson. He's got a

667
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Speaker 5: one point three million dollar ring. He does yeah or

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Speaker 5: she does? Says his his band is worth up to

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Speaker 5: one point three million. Some people had that saying you

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Speaker 5: can't have money. Let me ask you that why why

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Speaker 5: is it worded that way? Worth up to one point

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Speaker 5: three million? Because it's only worth what somebody's willing to spend, right,

673
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Speaker 5: it could it could? It could a praise for that amount.

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Speaker 5: What is there incentives in it? Like, well, if you

675
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Speaker 5: meet all these incentives, it'll be worth one point three million,

676
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 5: Like what like don't go to the grab lab, it'll

677
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Speaker 5: be worth one point three You can't clean it with

678
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Speaker 5: a towel. That keeps the value. That's that's the incentive.

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Speaker 5: Don't don't clean it with a towe street tal is

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Speaker 5: tal is cleaner. That's a great point, all right. So

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Speaker 5: with that being said, speaking to speaking of Ohio, Lebron

682
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 5: James was hanging out at the Calves Practice facility and

683
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 5: there was a there was a picture that went out

684
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Speaker 5: of him there and some people started to speculate, oh,

685
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 5: is he going back home? Is he going back to Cleveland?

686
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 5: This and that? And he basically we spawned on social

687
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Speaker 5: media with something along the lines of I live here,

688
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Speaker 5: I practice here every off season. There's nothing different about this.

689
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Speaker 5: You practice at the Cavaliers. Yea works out there all

690
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Speaker 5: the time. He works out there constantly because he lives

691
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Speaker 5: out there, and so he said, that's not strange. No,

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Speaker 5: I don't think so he does it every year, and

693
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Speaker 5: that's not strange every year not I mean whatever, he's

694
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Speaker 5: working out there. It's their practice. That's strange to me.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, all right, but there's a hundred different

696
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Speaker 4: places you could go work out other than another team

697
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Speaker 4: in the National Basketball Association, So that doesn't come across

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Speaker 4: this strain.

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Speaker 5: Well he's starting, but okay, but his point was, I'm

700
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Speaker 5: here every off season. Are you all that bored? Go

701
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Speaker 5: get another plate of food? Okay?

702
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Speaker 4: But is every off season like this for Lebron James.

703
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Speaker 4: That's the question Lebron has to ask himself, and that's

704
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Speaker 4: the question that needs to be asked and answered. Does

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Speaker 4: this off season give you something different than any other

706
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Speaker 4: off season? And the answer has to be yes, really, yes,

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Speaker 4: it does. Because of the uncertainties of what's going to

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Speaker 4: take place based off of the selling of the team

709
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Speaker 4: of the Lakers based off of bringing in Luka Doncic,

710
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Speaker 4: based on on where where they are as a team,

711
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Speaker 4: and and to me, it just seems like the handwriting

712
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 4: is on the wall that that this Lakers team is

713
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Speaker 4: possibly positioning themselves to be able to move on from

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Speaker 4: Lebron James.

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Speaker 5: So and at context, yes it, I mean he has

716
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Speaker 5: to know that. I don't.

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Speaker 4: I'm you can't be upsetting up in arms if people

718
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Speaker 4: are looking at you doing something that you've always done,

719
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Speaker 4: but in the moment of where that could be a

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Speaker 4: possibility of a destination for him to land.

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Speaker 5: He's there working out, that's strange. I mean, but that's strange,

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Speaker 5: like if he was working out in South Beach, if

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Speaker 5: he was working out, I mean, I don't know if

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Speaker 5: he's hold on.

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Speaker 4: Now, If he's in South Beach and he's working out

726
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Speaker 4: on the beach or on Ocean Ave, you might be like, Okay,

727
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Speaker 4: speculate and he can give you a legitimate I just

728
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Speaker 4: like being in Miami, I'm always in Miami. If he's

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Speaker 4: in Cleveland and he's in the flats or he's just

730
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Speaker 4: doing what he's doing somewhere in and around Cleveland, he

731
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Speaker 4: can take the speculation and he can drown out the

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Speaker 4: special speculation.

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Speaker 5: He can.

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Speaker 4: He can, he can delete it. He can, he can

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Speaker 4: eliminate it. You're working out at Cleveland Cavaliers facility, that's weird.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I was playing for to Washington

737
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Speaker 4: back when I was playing for the Washington Ridskins, well

738
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Speaker 4: then Washington Ridskins. If I were to be in Texas

739
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Speaker 4: and I'm working out at the Dallas Cowboys facilities, because

740
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Speaker 4: I've always worked out there first and foremost, why would

741
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Speaker 4: I always work out at the Dallas Cowboys facility for there? Man,

742
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Speaker 4: that's weird. B Well, that's weird. I don't know how

743
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Speaker 4: you don't see it that it's weird or you're being

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Speaker 4: an instigator.

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Speaker 5: I'm not weird. That is weird. He does it every

746
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Speaker 5: officeus and there's nothing new about this. It's weird the

747
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Speaker 5: first time he did it. Okay, But if he does

748
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Speaker 5: it this mean it doesn't make it unwird. That he's

749
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Speaker 5: doing it for years. It makes it weird that it's

750
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Speaker 5: not weird. Look, I think that he enjoys the speculation.

751
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Speaker 5: I think he stirs that up a lot. I think

752
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Speaker 5: that's you know, he can try and be dismissive of

753
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 5: it and say, well, you know, you guys need to

754
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,959
Speaker 5: get a life, basically and go get another plate of food.

755
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 5: And I'm here every offseason. I think he likes to

756
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 5: stir it up. He probably knows deep down this is

757
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Speaker 5: going to generate some sort of reaction somewhere or another.

758
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Speaker 5: I look at it from a general standpoint, this is

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00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 5: another indication that the NBA without Lebron, what do you got?

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Speaker 5: Because when he's gone and the end is near, what

761
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Speaker 5: what is there?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 5: He really is the lifeblood of topics and discussion in

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Speaker 5: the National Basketball Association. He's great at it. And if

765
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Speaker 5: this is all winding down and he's out in the

766
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Speaker 5: next couple of years, people that cover the NBA, people

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Speaker 5: that love to talk about the league, Oh, it's not

768
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Speaker 5: as bad as everybody thinks it is, And you know,

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Speaker 5: they get pissed off and we point out that the

770
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Speaker 5: separation between the NFL and the NBA. You better start

771
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Speaker 5: stirring up some other storylines or stirring up some other

772
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Speaker 5: stars in the league. And I don't know, this isn't

773
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Speaker 5: a face of the NBA, it's a life of the NBA.

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00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 5: And without Lebron James it feels like the NBA's on

775
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 5: life support when it comes to interest, intrigue and talking points.

776
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 5: What else is there? Talent?

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Speaker 4: I'd say there's talent. Yeah, there's talented young talented stars.

778
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 4: You have some older talented stars. You have star power

779
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 4: in the NBA. Is it interesting? I would say the

780
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 4: better question would be does the NBA have enough relevance

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00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 4: and enough to me cache to be interesting outside like

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Speaker 4: what Lebron James, or like Shaquille O'Neill, or like a

783
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 4: Kobe Bryant, or like a Michael Jordan or a Magic Johnson?

784
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Speaker 4: Do they have the ability to Is there a player

785
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 4: that exists that can transition into those positions of interest

786
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Speaker 4: outside of the talent on.

787
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Speaker 5: The court, I don't.

788
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Speaker 4: I think there are personalities within the NBA that could

789
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 4: be those. But I find myself asking the question, are

790
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 4: we in a day and age? Are we in a

791
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 4: time where social media and different things have taken away

792
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Speaker 4: It's really taken away the ability. It's desensitized fans. It's

793
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 4: desensitized fans, and for what it's worth, I think it

794
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 4: has desensitized athletes as well. How do you build as

795
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 4: big as Shaquille O'Neill or Michael Jordan, if you can

796
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 4: get a hold of them so easily. Now, granted, when

797
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 4: Lebron James was coming in, that transitional phase was that

798
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 4: stage was taking place, so he wasn't all the way

799
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 4: fully acclimated to being in a world where social media

800
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 4: dominated it, technology dominated it. Now, while you may see

801
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 4: the NFL because it leans so deep into the brand

802
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 4: and the shield that they don't seem to be losing

803
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Speaker 4: any momental and in fact, maybe even picking up momentum.

804
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 4: But in basketball, it's such a personality driven sport that

805
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 4: when you see the guys like Shaquille O'Neil, you see

806
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 4: them in person and it's like you've met like somebody

807
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 4: that came like from somewhere else. You meet these guys

808
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 4: and there was this sense of just Wow, I just

809
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 4: met this person. That element is gone, and I think

810
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 4: the homy element is there, like working out at a

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Speaker 4: different facility that is in the NBA and you play

812
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Speaker 4: for another team, the exchanging of jerseys, which happens in football.

813
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 4: But I just feel like it's weird how cool guys

814
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 4: are these days. And they're not only cool with one another,

815
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 4: they're cool with the fan bases like that connection is there.

816
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Speaker 4: And I don't think that the relevance of like the

817
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 4: praise factor or the the you know, posting them high

818
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 4: on a pedestal type deal don't. I don't feel like

819
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 4: that's prominent anymore. And I don't think that players actually

820
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Speaker 4: prioritize trying to be that type of a personality.

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Speaker 5: Or a brand. I really don't. We've talked about this

822
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 5: before to where the NFL has its own ecosystem where

823
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 5: the NBA is starved for. We need a superstar, we

824
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 5: need big markets happy to dress. And in the NFL,

825
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes plays in Kansas City like Rogers was in

826
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Speaker 5: Green Bay. It doesn't like the NFL. Anybody could be

827
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Speaker 5: a great team with a great quarterback, and because it's

828
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Speaker 5: its own ecosystem, it supersedes all the other big market

829
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Speaker 5: celebrity status that comes along with it. Man, it's not

830
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Speaker 5: like Patrick Mahomes has got this you know, vibrant personality

831
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Speaker 5: and this real colorful No. Guy just plays football. He

832
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 5: plays football, and he's on a team with with you know,

833
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 5: with the tight end who's dating Taylor Swift. Like it's

834
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Speaker 5: just it's.

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Speaker 4: Became more relevant than football. It's so don't think that

836
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 4: football isn't guilty of trying to find ways to leverage

837
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 4: celebrity as well. Yeah, but football's not determined on one player,

838
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Speaker 4: like the success and conversation around the NFL isn't just

839
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Speaker 4: determined on one player man Tom Brady retired sweet next

840
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Speaker 4: time the next Like John l Wait, I think it

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00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 4: comes down to what you mentioned earlier, is the relevance

842
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 4: of the franchises. Like Green Bay is not a big market,

843
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 4: it's not a great market, but the relevance of the

844
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Speaker 4: franchise drives it.

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Speaker 6: Right.

846
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 4: The people love their their franchise, the communities rally around

847
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 4: their franchise. They create a very very nice size, captive audience.

848
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Speaker 4: You have that in the NFL, and it's because of

849
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 4: the shield, and it's because of the brands of those franchises.

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00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,959
Speaker 4: You have that in a few teams in the NBA,

851
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 4: but you don't have that collectively. So the relevance of

852
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 4: what you're to do has to exist in certain certain

853
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 4: markets in order for it to be as impactful as

854
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 4: you need it to be. And that's why you always

855
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 4: try to keep the Lakers as strong as you can,

856
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 4: maybe keep the Knicks as strong as they can try

857
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 4: to keep the Chicago Bulls as strong as you can.

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00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 4: You saw what they just did with the Dallas Mavericks.

859
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 4: You try to keep the Dallas Mavericks as strong as

860
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 4: you can. You have to try to keep those those

861
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 4: anchor teams, those anchor markets. You gotta try to keep

862
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 4: them stocked up with some type of relevant talent because

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Speaker 4: you're not the the franchises in these different markets.

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Speaker 2: You just had.

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Speaker 4: Okay, see when win it all, what's the buzz? Well

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Speaker 4: that's what What was the what was the what was

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Speaker 4: the parade like?

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Speaker 5: After?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 5: And I and I asked this question for anybody that's

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Speaker 5: driving around right now or listening on the podcast. Take

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Speaker 5: Lebron James out of the NBA, what do you want

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Speaker 5: to talk about? Heang like, honestly, you have to be

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Speaker 5: a real fan of the game to be able to

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Speaker 5: answer your question. And I think that's the biggest indict.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 5: I loved the NBA Finals. I thought it was great

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Speaker 5: because it was great basketball and you didn't have any drama.

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Speaker 5: There was no like, no subplots or issues going on.

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Speaker 5: It was just two really good teams who were pretty

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Speaker 5: evenly matched. Much more evenly matched, I think a lot of.

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Speaker 4: Lebron James or Shaquille, Kevin Gronet, or there's Kevin Durant

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Speaker 4: or Steph Kurk.

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Speaker 5: How many of those guys were in that series? Well,

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Speaker 5: that's the thing. How many?

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Speaker 7: None?

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Speaker 5: But that's but no, But that's that's great. That's the thing.

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Speaker 5: And those were the two best teams in the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: You know, it was a great series. I I had

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Speaker 5: thoroughly enjoyed it. But I look at the NBA differently

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Speaker 5: to where I think a lot of people focus on

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Speaker 5: this storyline attached to it and the name brand attached

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Speaker 5: to it, and after Lebron, you don't have a lot

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Speaker 5: of that. There's not a lot of that going on.

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Speaker 5: And with Lebron's career winding down, I think people are

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Speaker 5: going to get a harsh social reality when he's gone, Oh,

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Speaker 5: we've got to actually like put some work in and

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Speaker 5: really start pushing some You don't realize how much he

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Speaker 5: carried on us. Wow, that's a great point.

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Speaker 4: I mean, and even earlier you talked about we talked

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Speaker 4: about JPP and the fireworks situation. If you have something

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Speaker 4: that happens in a major market, which by the way,

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Speaker 4: it's interesting that JPP was a giant and Odell Beckham

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Speaker 4: makes the catch as a giant. Like it's certain markets

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Speaker 4: where if you do something personally, it can take your

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Speaker 4: brand beyond the scope of just being a helmet in

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Speaker 4: jersey and cleats. But it doesn't happen very often. You

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Speaker 4: get used to seeing guys with helmets on being totally

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Speaker 4: covered up, and it's what the team is doing. In fact,

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Speaker 4: in most cases it's actually set up for the coaches

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Speaker 4: to actually become the stars of what's taking place. You

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Speaker 4: look at the coaches and they're singled out. You know,

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Speaker 4: look at how many times we looked at zerses On

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Speaker 4: on the New York side line before he got before

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Speaker 4: he got I can right, you can look at Stefanski,

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Speaker 4: He's got to look to him.

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Speaker 5: You you look at day Ball, It's like he's got

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Speaker 5: to look to him.

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Speaker 4: You you look at you know, any of these coaches

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Speaker 4: in and around the league, they get a ton of

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Speaker 4: attention because you can see them.

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Speaker 5: You can see them.

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Speaker 4: The dynamic of how we how we bring in or

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Speaker 4: or how we digest and how we receive the content

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Speaker 4: from from football is much different than how we receive

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Speaker 4: it from basketball. We are looking we almost look at

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Speaker 4: basketball players as entertainers like singers or actors, right because

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Speaker 4: you can see them.

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Speaker 5: You can see them.

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Speaker 4: And so with that being said, if you can see

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Speaker 4: these guys and listen, they're putting them in commercials like

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Speaker 4: the I think Progressive had uh the OKC thunder Kids

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Speaker 4: and the guys in their commercial, and you had the

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Speaker 4: Big Three and their commercial and stuff like that. They

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Speaker 4: get commercials and they are relevant to the audiences that

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Speaker 4: are consuming them. It's just that you don't have that

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Speaker 4: next level brand like a Lebron James that's in the

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Speaker 4: pipeline to actually carry it. From a megastar standpoint, there's

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Speaker 4: not one that exists. I can't think of one personality.

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Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards is the only personality that you could say

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Speaker 4: is comparable to the personalities that we've gotten to know

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Speaker 4: through the years where you want to know that individual

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Speaker 4: in particular.

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Speaker 5: But you don't have a Kevin Garnett.

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Speaker 4: You don't have a Paul Pierce, don't you don't have

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Speaker 4: those type of very big personalities that are making you

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Speaker 4: look at the game from an entertainment standpoint of the storylines,

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Speaker 4: not just the game itself and what the outcomes of

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Speaker 4: the games are and that's something that once Lebron James leaves,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna have to figure out what that conversation is

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Speaker 4: done dry. The well is dry once he's gone. By

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Speaker 4: the way, Steph Curry, you got Steph Curry. That's about it.

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Speaker 4: Steph Curry, Draymond Green, and I mean, if we're talking

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Speaker 4: in the animals of being the greatest ever, you'll say

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Speaker 4: maybe Draymond falls in like a Dennis Rodman type of category, right,

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Speaker 4: Like you had a superstar in Dennis Rodman but was

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Speaker 4: never thus star, but yet his brand was very pronounced

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Speaker 4: that's Draymond Green. So you have it in Draymond Green

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Speaker 4: and Steph Curry. There might be a couple more if

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Speaker 4: we really really dig deep for it. But I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's just it's not to the level of what we're

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Speaker 4: talking about with a Lebron James.

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