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Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here. I thought I made myself

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Speaker 1: perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you

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Speaker 1: gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests,

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Speaker 1: your presences presents, and I already had too much stuff.

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Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey me?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Bridger Winninger. I

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Speaker 3: hope you're doing okay. This is a very special type

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Speaker 3: of charge. Most other podcasts will not be giving you that,

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Speaker 3: so enjoy it. You're not going to get that that often,

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Speaker 3: even on this podcast. And the other thing that's very

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Speaker 3: a familiar voice, and just moments a voice that you hear.

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Speaker 3: You just heard the person who wrote and sings our

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Speaker 3: theme song and a lot of more important songs. Amy

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Speaker 3: man Amy, Welcome to. I said no gifts.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Bridger Amy.

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Speaker 3: How are you doing?

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Speaker 4: You know, I think the standard COVID. Answer is like

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Speaker 4: hanging in there, right, And as we were just discussing,

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Speaker 4: I've sort of recently come down with I don't know

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Speaker 4: And in my case, it's not it's not like really

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Speaker 4: a pandemic that you have to try to kill time

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's you know, so it's up and down. Right.

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Speaker 3: When did this develop?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you've just been hanging in with this migraine

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Speaker 4: This means like I literally can't do anything. It's it's

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Speaker 3: Read some reading for me. I mean I made this

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Speaker 4: And how long just excuse the migraine. Talkin cast your

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Speaker 3: You know? It was at a pizza party.

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Speaker 3: Right, more than a day old, more than its off diet.

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Speaker 3: But with an avocados, what did an avocado ever do? All? Right?

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Speaker 3: This is when we find out that you've gone mega.

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Speaker 3: that's all I asked for.

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Speaker 3: No, that makes perfect sense to me. I think my

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Speaker 4: I wonder if we would agree on it everyone. I

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Speaker 3: I would love. I should I should have come with

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Speaker 3: To write it all night long, which doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 4: It should be like life is a pony, you want

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Speaker 3: Approved it or life is an ambling street, neighborhood street.

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Speaker 3: That I mean, that's this is written by someone on cocaine.

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Speaker 4: No. I try to find the good points, like does

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, you know, in general, I

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Speaker 3: Born to Be Wild?

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Speaker 3: be doing this. Uptown Funk. I'm sorry, this is not amy.

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Speaker 3: You are someone who loves to learn new things because

442
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 3: you're always figuring out how to Like you've been learning

443
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 3: to draw more during the pandemic. That to me, I

444
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 3: admire the ability to just see a skill you want

445
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 3: and then chase it. Yeah, but you're I also think

446
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,160
Speaker 3: it's a little unfair for you because you're just good

447
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 3: at a lot of things naturally.

448
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 4: Well, I've been trying to learn how to draw, for

449
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 4: you know, for years and years you know, there was

450
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 4: a point where my bass players are a really good

451
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 4: cartoonist and we would sketch together, and you know, I

452
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 4: look at those sketches and you know they're just not

453
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 4: I mean, he said, like, if you feel this, fill

454
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 4: this notebook up and it'll be better.

455
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 2: You'll be better at the end of it.

456
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just it's a matter of practice, like everything, right,

457
00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 4: and then you know sometimes like looking at other cartoons

458
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 4: is to see how they solve certain problems. And you know,

459
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 4: I think if I really applied myself, I would be

460
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 4: I would be better. But you know, again, like that

461
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 4: was what I was doing at the start of the pandemic.

462
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 4: But the concentrating on drawing is is like a migraine trigger,

463
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 4: Like I can't, I can't do it right now.

464
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 3: And can we talk about part of the reason you're

465
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 3: learning to draw your project coming up?

466
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't know what's gonna

467
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 4: happen to it right now?

468
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 3: Well who knows when?

469
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm I'm working on a graphic memoir.

470
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 3: It's so great.

471
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 4: You know, I sketched out the first chapter and then

472
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 4: that's when I when I got sick.

473
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 2: So you know, it's marinated.

474
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 4: I mean to be honest, like I do think rummaging

475
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 4: around in your past, which is I don't know how

476
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 4: you feel about your past, but almost everything in my

477
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 4: past is it's like a bomber and so like when

478
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 4: I think about it, it actually it is kind of

479
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 4: hard because you have this or put yourself back into

480
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 4: a situation and remember what it was like and try

481
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 4: to reconstruct events. And I have to say, like it,

482
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 4: I wondered if it was like a little stressful, right,

483
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 4: and that sort of contributed to my thing.

484
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 3: Yeah maybe, I mean, yeah, looking back at your past,

485
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 3: you have to both be an observer of it and

486
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 3: feel it when you're trying to create something. I think

487
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 3: that's a frustrating, stressful feeling to have. Yeah, you can't

488
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 3: just go back and look at it and feel bad,

489
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: But you can't also go back and just clinically look

490
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 3: at it. So it's yeah, tricky thing, yeah.

491
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 4: Exactly, or just sort of reliving the story or like

492
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 4: looking at certain things that happened with new perspective, going, God,

493
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,719
Speaker 4: that is really sad, you know.

494
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 3: I kind of my past I kind of try to

495
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 3: look at in like ten year increments I give myself

496
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 3: a pass every ten years. I'm like, if it's more

497
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 3: than ten years ago, whatever I was, that's a different person. Yeah,

498
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 3: so I can look at it a little bit easier.

499
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that.

500
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 4: I look back through some notebooks, you know, very sporadic

501
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 4: diary keeper, and when I did write in a journal,

502
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 4: it was just almost always about some terrible relationship. Right,

503
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 4: so you're like, oh my god, is it this dumb

504
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 4: guy again, Like, well we broke up, and this time

505
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, you know, I'm like I'm in my thirties.

506
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 4: Like it's not like I'm not a kid, right, it's

507
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 4: just so like, oh, I can't I Why couldn't I

508
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 4: make a better choice, And like I couldn't, you know,

509
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 4: like that was the best I could do. But you're

510
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,239
Speaker 4: just you know, you just want to go back and

511
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 4: make different decisions, to deal with things in a.

512
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: Different way, and you can't. It's very frustrating.

513
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 3: Well, this is my trick is in my journal, I

514
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 3: just wrote what I had for dinner that day and

515
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 3: nothing else, and so I just forget everything else that's

516
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 3: going on in my life, and the past just fades away,

517
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 3: and soon I just won't remember the pain with the

518
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 3: agony unless it was a bad meal.

519
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, that meal. Really you really kept track of.

520
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 3: What what not to, right, Well, I don't want to veery. Wait,

521
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 3: well I guess I do. I guess what we're going

522
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 3: to because you've brought something here. And this isn't really

523
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 3: my fault, you know, this is this podcast is called

524
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 3: I said no gifts, and we've arranged for you to

525
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: be in my backyard and all these things, and so

526
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 3: I asked you to do this with just the simple request, Amy,

527
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,479
Speaker 3: don't bring me a gift. I know you, I know

528
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 3: you're a generous person, but please, this one time, leave

529
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 3: it be. And yet you show up today holding a bag.

530
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 4: Well, I have some excuses. First of all, I want

531
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 4: to say that my husband said you didn't bring him anything.

532
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 2: You wrote a song for him.

533
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 3: Well, Michael, look, she's just explained to us that writing

534
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 3: a song is as easy as brushing her teeth.

535
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 4: And then you know, but it's like there's a holiday

536
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 4: that is happening, right you know.

537
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I mean while we're here, while you're here,

538
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 3: should I open it here on the podcast?

539
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 2: Should I explain?

540
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 4: I love when people explain their gifts beforehand, but I

541
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 4: do have to. I have so many explanations. First of all,

542
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 4: because it's a pandemic, so I can't go to a store.

543
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 4: I can't look online to order a thing. So my

544
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 4: gift is shopping the storage space.

545
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 3: I love shopping in the storage space.

546
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 4: And this was a thing that this is one of

547
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 4: a thing that I for a while collected and absolutely loved.

548
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 2: So it's not a piece of garbage bridger. It might

549
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: be cat hair.

550
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 4: It's a clump of cat hair that I've combed out

551
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 4: cat It's mostly in the form of a ball, but

552
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 4: there's a couple of strands that I.

553
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 3: Spun gum wrappers, this kind of thing.

554
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: So that's why. So so I shopped my storage space.

555
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 3: I love to shop the storage space. I Jim recently

556
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: found something in our office and he said, I can't

557
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: believe you got me this gift. I was like, what,

558
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: I don't remember getting you a gift, And then he

559
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 3: told me what it was. And I wish I had

560
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: been quicker on my feet and I would have just

561
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: given it to him as a gift. But now he

562
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: knows that it was just something from another event. We

563
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 3: just own this thing, so well, let's see what what's inside.

564
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 4: This may not remotely be your taste, but I'm taking

565
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 4: a chance.

566
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: Okay, let's give a shot. I'm going to freak out.

567
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: If it's not my taste, you will be leaving the

568
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 3: podcast while you're opening.

569
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 4: I do want to say that to your audience, that

570
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 4: that you had some some suggestions for the lyrics of

571
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 4: the theme song, and you want I remember specifically you

572
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 4: wanted the singer to be more angry about how the

573
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 4: like I said, note of kifts, like can you make

574
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 4: it like? So they're mad that like they were disobeyed, and.

575
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 3: You did a perfect job, which, by the way, the

576
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 3: final line of the song disobeyed me. My friend Leela

577
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 3: texted me a while ago and she the first time

578
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 3: she heard it, she thought the lyric was how can

579
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 3: you dance with a baby?

580
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: How can you dance with the baby?

581
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: It's a great question. And then she covered the song

582
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: and sent it to me. So now I have two versions,

583
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 3: one about a baby and one the official version.

584
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: Wait, oh, but.

585
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: This is beautiful. This is a mask.

586
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: It's gorgeous.

587
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: Wait what kind of mask is this?

588
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 4: It's an African mask. I think the tribe is Mollie

589
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 4: and I used to collect African masks. I mean, I

590
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 4: you know, because finally I just bought some. I had

591
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 4: so many, like this is ridiculous, right stop, because you

592
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 4: know it is when you collect you're like, oh my god,

593
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 4: this there's another different, a different example of it that's

594
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 4: even more beautiful.

595
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 3: This is where did you get this?

596
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 4: And this was like in the eighties there was a

597
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 4: store that just sold kind of little art objects like

598
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 4: you know, like that.

599
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: This is an almost like Jim carries the mask I

600
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 3: placed placed this on and become a like CG creation.

601
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: This is so you have a lot of these homes

602
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: in your storage.

603
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: Space, I do.

604
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 4: Well there we painted the wall so like we had

605
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 4: to take them down, but we're going to put put

606
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 4: them back up, and you know, and I had just

607
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 4: more more than Michael will allow me to put on

608
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 4: the wall.

609
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 3: Quite frankly, he has a very strict number of masks

610
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: that he can have on the wall. Yeah.

611
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 4: When I when I recorded my the first record with

612
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 4: my band Till Tuesday, we recorded a place called Bearsville

613
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 4: in Woodstock and in the hall they had African masks

614
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 4: and and that's where I got That's where I sort

615
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 4: of oh got the you know, got the end because

616
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 4: I just thought they're so interesting and I love like

617
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 4: you from area to area. The style of the of

618
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 4: the faces are so they're so different.

619
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: And have you like read about these? Have you done

620
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 3: something a little not that much?

621
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: I mean I just thought they.

622
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 3: Were beautiful, you know, and they are stunning. I mean

623
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 3: it's like and it's just like faces.

624
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 4: I thought this is interesting because it's got pounded like

625
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 4: a figured metal and it has almost like a medieval

626
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 4: look to it.

627
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, almost like Roman or something like the nose feels

628
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 3: very very or something. I mean, it's stunning. So you

629
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 3: started collecting these in the eighties. Yeah, and before the Internet,

630
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 3: I would have no idea how to track down particular objects,

631
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 3: Like what what was your initial thing trying to find masks?

632
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 2: It was just this one this one store.

633
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: You just it and they had them.

634
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was their best customer.

635
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 4: I like literally bought everything, you know, like they would,

636
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 4: you know, just every week I would come in and

637
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 4: then they'd have more stuff.

638
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: Oh that's incredible. Do you have I mean, how many

639
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: ballpark would you say you own at this point? Twelve

640
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: twelve mask? And is that like over the decades or

641
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 3: was it like a concentrated gathering and then I'm done

642
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 3: gathering masks.

643
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 4: I think mostly Yeah, probably a period of over a

644
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 4: period of a couple of years.

645
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 3: Okay, do you collect anything else now.

646
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: Or is this not now?

647
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 4: I mean, I you know, I'm trying to get rid

648
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 4: of stuff, but like once you have it, you know,

649
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 4: it's really hard to give it away.

650
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: Yes, unless you know you've got to find some more

651
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 3: podcasts to go on.

652
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, this should be your new thing. There's a

653
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 4: part where I collected fossils. Why why I don't you know,

654
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 4: like you just it's the collecting mind. I just think

655
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 4: it's like that obsessive mind and you see a thing

656
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,479
Speaker 4: and you think it's cool, and you're like, I just

657
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 4: have to I have to have.

658
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: The wall, right completions, like I need collect the complete

659
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 3: set now and with I thing like fossils, good luck?

660
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right?

661
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: What sort of fossils were you getting?

662
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 4: I don't even remember anymore, Like you know, I think

663
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 4: I think it might have been the same store. Okay,

664
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 4: they just had all sorts of interesting things.

665
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: And for me, like a fish fossil doesn't do anything.

666
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: I don't care to see a fish fossilized. But do

667
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: we get into other animals, that sort of thing. I

668
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 3: can get.

669
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: Into it, those snail things.

670
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 3: The snail things. Obviously any level of prehistoric dinosaurs pterodactyl

671
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: I can get to full sized connect.

672
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 4: If it's not terodactyl, don't even forget, you don't even

673
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 4: bring it around.

674
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 3: I live in a musicum.

675
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 4: And then the other thing I collected, like these three

676
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 4: collections of no or there's a couple more things because

677
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 4: I like definitely went. I'm one of those people like

678
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 4: who go into a you know, an antique store, thrist

679
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 4: shop and it's like, oh, it's old, like that's all.

680
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 4: I just literally all I require any era, anytalk. But

681
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 4: so stuffed Santa's was, Oh stuffed Santa's.

682
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. There.

683
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 4: I was on tour one time and went into you know,

684
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 4: like like a thrist store and there was this stuff

685
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 4: Santa there. My tour manager was like, wait till tomorrow,

686
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 4: like you don't, you know, you don't want to load

687
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 4: up on stuff. It's like the first day tour or whatever.

688
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 4: So then I was just thinking about this adorable little

689
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 4: stuff Santa all night. Like I went back and it

690
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 4: was gone. So that just was like, oh my god,

691
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 4: I have the search like the Holy grail of like

692
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 4: the perfect stuff, Santa.

693
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: I mean I probably have twenty five.

694
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 3: Oh wow, a lot. Do you put them around the house.

695
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: During the holidays.

696
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 4: We used to just keep them around, but I mean,

697
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 4: my god, we have so much stuff.

698
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 3: You've been to our house, yeah, you do it, But

699
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 3: I mean I've never seen an out of place stuffed Santa. No.

700
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 4: I because we did a bunch of constructions, so we

701
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 4: put stuff away and I never bought it back out

702
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 4: because it's just, you know, there, it's just too much,

703
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:45,959
Speaker 4: too much.

704
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 2: We got to winnow it down.

705
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: You and Michael are surprising to me because you're two

706
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 3: of the few people I know who have kind of

707
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 3: real adult interests and things like this. But there are

708
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 3: a few surprises, like, for example, you love Disneyland, especially

709
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 3: with Michael. Right, Michael like he's a very he has

710
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 3: a great sense of humor, but he's also like if

711
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: you just were speaking to you didn't know him that well,

712
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: you think he's a very serious person. Yeah, And so

713
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: the first time I learned that he loves Disneyland, I

714
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: was like, always kidding.

715
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: He can be very intimidating because right.

716
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: Because he's extremely intelligent and also is not afraid to

717
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 3: give his opinion.

718
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, he is definitely not afraid to get his opinion.

719
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 4: You know. He loves he loves to if I have

720
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 4: like a you know, a doctor thinger insurance thing. He

721
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 4: he loves to be the guy to He's like, give

722
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 4: me the phone. I want to like, ye, I'll yell

723
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 4: at them. He loves to, like tell people they're not

724
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 4: doing their job right.

725
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 3: That's what Jim posits himself as in the relationship. But really,

726
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 3: when push comes to shove, he'll be like, I'll call

727
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 3: him all yell at them. Never happens. He calls some

728
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 3: of the He's perfectly nice. So I'm like, but you

729
00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: can't do that.

730
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, I don't know. It's easier to

731
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 4: be nice when you know you were willing to yell.

732
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: That's true.

733
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: You didn't push me to yelling, and so I'm happy

734
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: to deal with you.

735
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 4: So you are you just like you just avoid your absolutely.

736
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: It's like, you know what, I don't need it that

737
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: much after a Yeah, that's me.

738
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: I'll put it off at least as long as possible,

739
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 3: to the point that something breaks something emotionally or physically literally,

740
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: or I'll just let it fall away. And my life

741
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 3: is worse because of it, and I just deal with it. Yeah,

742
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 3: I rarely will confront So I guess that Jim toxic

743
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 3: big game and then usually doesn't quite land on what

744
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: he was telling me he'd do, but takes care of it.

745
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 3: So I guess there's some value in that. Yeah, but

746
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 3: I don't know.

747
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 4: Well, back to the unanswered question. Yes, Michael does love Disneyland,

748
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 4: and he loves Disneyland because I think actually because he

749
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 4: used to go as a as a kid, because his

750
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 4: father was a director and there was some like directors Guild,

751
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 4: you know, gets in free day or something like that,

752
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 4: But he also he loves it because it's very well

753
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 4: art directed, because they did their job right.

754
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: Yes.

755
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: I mean once he explained, I was like, oh, of

756
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 3: course this is Michael loves this because Disneyland is the

757
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: ultimate example of art direction and people like staying on

758
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 3: top of every detail at all times.

759
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: Yes.

760
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: So did he kind of introduce you to this and

761
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 3: you found you enjoyed it?

762
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: I had been.

763
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 4: I had been before a long time ago. But then

764
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 4: there's some some friends of ours and their kids like

765
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 4: we went and we started going every year, right, and

766
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 4: that was fun because it's nice to have a couple

767
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 4: of kids around, right.

768
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little weird if it's just I've gone

769
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 3: just with it like adults before. And it can be

770
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 3: especially if the other person's not great at conversation. You're

771
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: in line for hours, yea silence, it can be a

772
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: difficult experience.

773
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: To do a fast pass.

774
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 3: You got to do the fast pass. Yeah, but ultimately

775
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: you've got to take a child or you're gonna you're

776
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 3: gonna be there for two hours and want to get out.

777
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

778
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: I don't know. Why don't we play a game?

779
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 4: Oh?

780
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 3: Okay, do you want to play a game called Gift

781
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 3: Master or Gift or a Curse.

782
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: Let's see Gift or a Curse.

783
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 3: Okay, this is I feel like this will be a

784
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 3: good game for you. Okay, I need a number between

785
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: one and ten.

786
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: Eight.

787
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 3: Okay, I have to do some light calculating. So while

788
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: I'm calculating, you can do whatever you want with the time.

789
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: You can promote something. You can recommend something, Oh truly

790
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: do and I feel like you should. If you don't

791
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 3: promote something, I'm going to come back on and promote

792
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: things for you because I feel like you're not.

793
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 2: What do I have to promote.

794
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: I put out a re release of a record of

795
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 4: mine called Batcher number two that you referenced earlier. That

796
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 4: is also has songs from the Magnolia soundtrack on it

797
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 4: because they were all recorded at the same time, so

798
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 4: we saw they should be on the same record. It's

799
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 4: uh remastered, it has new liner notes, and uh what else.

800
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't have anything else to promote.

801
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 3: I calculated I was very efficient and managed to get it. Yeah,

802
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 3: that's a great, uh great self promotion. I think that

803
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: people should go out and get that. And also mental

804
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: illness is a couple of years old now, but.

805
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 4: We still press that many so I don't even know

806
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 4: if there are any left so to promote that Enriched scalters, yeah,

807
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 4: we may, you know, press up more at some point

808
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 4: you should.

809
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: It's a beautiful album and very nice packaging too. But

810
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 3: this game Gift or a Curse. I'm going to name

811
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 3: three things and you have to tell me if they're

812
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 3: a gift or a curse and why and there are

813
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: I have to be as clear as possible there are

814
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 3: correct answers, so you can fail, and then you're going

815
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 3: to drive home in shame.

816
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 2: That's my usual part of driving.

817
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: Number one gift or a curse Range Rovers.

818
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 4: I'm not super familiar with Rangers at rovers, but I'm

819
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 4: gonna say curse because I feel like they're at this

820
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 4: point too big for the road nobody needs. We don't

821
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 4: need big SUVs anymore.

822
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 3: Excellent, Amy, excellent, You've done it. Range rovers are absolutely

823
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 3: a curse. Why are we still making them?

824
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. Do they still make the Hummers? Those ones?

825
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: I think Hummers coming back as an electric car, to

826
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 3: be honest, for.

827
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 4: God's sake, it's still a big, giant piece of junk.

828
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 3: But with a range Rover, I just feel like you

829
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 3: should know better. Yeah, these people, I mean, it's an

830
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: expensive thing. I don't know, and for me, it's the

831
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 3: car of people who like acknowledge climate change is real,

832
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: but think that everybody else should do something about it.

833
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 4: I think there's one other thing that that's like good marketing,

834
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 4: and you don't I mean it's almost propaganda, like you

835
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 4: don't realize that this is the way you're thinking. Because

836
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 4: this happened to me in the nineties when I bought

837
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 4: a Ford Explorer. Oh sure, you know, because I thought like, well,

838
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 4: it'll you know, like I'm schlepping equipment around, right, and

839
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 4: like it has like an outdoorsy woods.

840
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 2: Well, because that's what you saw in the commercial.

841
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 3: It was driving through a forest.

842
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 4: Like there's nothing ecological about a rate of a Ford Explorer.

843
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, any SUV. The commercials should be them circling parking

844
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 3: lots trying to find a parking that's truth in advertising.

845
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 4: Totally totally agree. But like after the fact, I realized, like, oh,

846
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 4: this is why you didn't question that, right, because you

847
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 4: thought that you were buying some outdoorsy, sporty thing.

848
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

849
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: I feel like those Ford Explorers were even like in

850
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 3: like a forest green color. You would often see them

851
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: in that. It was like everything was in their power.

852
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 4: It's like tan, you know, deserted tan, as if it's

853
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 4: running on sand and sun gets thirty miles to the gallon.

854
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 3: Thirty is generous? No, No, like it's probably like eighteen.

855
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, eighteen, I think you're right. Eighteen.

856
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,959
Speaker 3: Okay, well you've nailed number one. Let's see number two.

857
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: This is a listener's suggestion suggestion from someone named Rita.

858
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 3: Rita has suggested gift her a curse joint birthday parties curse.

859
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 4: Why I don't because no one wants to share their

860
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 4: birthday give them a minute. And also there should be

861
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 4: a moratorium in having a birthday within six weeks of Christmas.

862
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 3: Oh, certain, like if your.

863
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 4: Birthday is in December, that you just move it up

864
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 4: a month. Yes, it just happened automatically.

865
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: My sister's birthday is December fourteenth, and fortunately she and

866
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 3: I have just come to the agreement that we don't

867
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: give each other Christmas presents anymore. So I'm able to

868
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 3: just give her birthday presents because I'm not thinking of

869
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 3: double presents. I don't have. I can barely deal with

870
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: the one vaccasion. Yeah, joint birthday parties. You think people

871
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 3: need a little bit of space. Yeah, Amy, I hate

872
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 3: to say it, You're wrong, but I'm coming at this

873
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: joint birthday parties as the guest. Yet as the guest,

874
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 3: this is uh yeah, two birds with one stone. I'm

875
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 3: showing up. I socialize with whoever. Maybe I get to

876
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 3: see two different friend groups that in one location, and

877
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 3: I think it's an episode. I mean, as the guest,

878
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: as the host, I think it's probably a curse. As

879
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: the birthday boy or girl, I.

880
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 4: Wants to buy two presents as you said, it's like

881
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 4: hard enough to come up with one every.

882
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: You know, a couple of months or so.

883
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 3: Right, So you're various friends, I mean, I'm I think

884
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 3: we're just seeing this from very different viewpoints. We're six

885
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 3: feet apart, and so that might be altering how our

886
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 3: opinion on the joint birthday parties. Okay, so you've gotten

887
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 3: one out of two, we've got one left.

888
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: Everything rides on this last one.

889
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything rides on this. This is also from a

890
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 3: listener named Jenna, and this is called gift or this

891
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 3: is a gift or a curse. Dessert hummus. Dessert.

892
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: I don't even know what that is.

893
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 4: But no, that's disgusting. I don't know what that is,

894
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 4: but sweet hummus.

895
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 3: I don't know that I've ever had dessert hummus.

896
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 4: Just leave a thing alone and let it be one thing.

897
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 4: Stop trying to repurpose everything, like the birthday parties.

898
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 3: So you're saying, curse, curse, just for the scoreboard, we

899
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 3: need a definitive answer, Amy, You're absolutely correct. Dessert hummus.

900
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 3: I also have never had a dessert hummus. I love

901
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: a good old fashioned hummus, of course I do. But

902
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 3: dessert hummus. Is that not just cold frosting.

903
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: Or but made of chickpeas?

904
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,479
Speaker 3: Is it still? That's the other question.

905
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a sweet chickpea.

906
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 3: I don't think that makes any sense.

907
00:44:58,960 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: Is not enough that.

908
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 4: Regular hummus is chickpea. You know what I'm gonna say,

909
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 4: Throw it mumus all together and make it, make it

910
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 4: a different sauce.

911
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 3: Why not just think of a new word. Yeah, yeah,

912
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 3: I don't know what that word could possibly.

913
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: Be, bomas.

914
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 3: But we don't need to drag hummus into your And

915
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 3: what are we even dipping in a dessert hummus?

916
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: I know, I have so many problems with this idea.

917
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 3: It does fall into like the last spread.

918
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 4: A sweet chickpea on a like a chunk of bread

919
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 4: or a cracker.

920
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 3: You're not a cake. Can't withstand the dip, So that's

921
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 3: not happening. No, no dessert that I can think of.

922
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 4: Oh here's an idea. A piece of fruit dip, A

923
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 4: piece of fruit dip an apple, give it as you know,

924
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 4: but then we're just really sick of apples. Give it

925
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 4: a zing.

926
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: This is fondue. Yeah, I don't think that that works.

927
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 3: And it does fall into that category, which is probably

928
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 3: the last ten years which Instagram is largely to blame for,

929
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 3: which is trying to make food something you take pictures

930
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 3: of or that is something else. It's the burrito is sushi,

931
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 3: or the pizza is cake, or what have you. And

932
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: I think I absolutely agree with you. Just let everything

933
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 3: be its own category. Every it doesn't need to be

934
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 3: another good thing. Dessert hummus, I hope I don't come across.

935
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 3: I don't even know what flavor we're dealing with there.

936
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 3: The only thing that makes sense to me is putting.

937
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 3: I mean I don't I don't want to nauseate the listeners.

938
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 3: I'm not even going to get into my ideas for

939
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 3: dessert hummus, but it's it feels.

940
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 4: Let's think, let's think about this raspberry.

941
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 3: Hummus jam see, I'm just we just go back to it.

942
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: But I guess Oh chickpeas and raspberries, chickpeas and cinnamon.

943
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 2: Oh gross, It's just it's gross.

944
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: Overwhelming to me.

945
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: Too many nows.

946
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 3: I mean, hopefully this listener wasn't on the other side

947
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 3: of dessert hummus because she's devastated now. She probably runs

948
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 3: a you know what. I bet Dessert Hummas was on

949
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 3: Shark Tank at some point. My guess is that somebody

950
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: pitched Dessert Hummus and mister Wonderful loved it, and now

951
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 3: it's probably in supermarkets across the country, not for me.

952
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: Good luck to all hummuses.

953
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 3: Well you got two out of three. That's pretty good.

954
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 3: You won't be kicked from my backyard.

955
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: I don't take a solid bee.

956
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, So now we just need to answer some

957
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 3: listener questions. This is called I said no questions. People

958
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 3: are writing into I said no gifts at gmail dot com.

959
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 3: Every one of these people is at rock bottom. They

960
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 3: need help, They need answers. So let's read some of

961
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 3: these and see if we can help anybody. This is

962
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 3: deer Bridge or in guest. My best friend and I

963
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 3: are in oh are engaged in a violent birthday gift war.

964
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 3: They want to give each other the best gift. Last March,

965
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 3: I gave them a basket with original art, a six

966
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 3: pack of mountain dew, goldfish and fruit snacks, and handmade knickknacks.

967
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: This September, they returned the favor with their favorite things,

968
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 3: including a T shirt which they hand painted. So now

969
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 3: that's the best gift. How do they top this? In March?

970
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 3: They love theater and baths. The budget is limited and

971
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 3: that's from Kate. The budget is limited and baths and theater.

972
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 2: I like to take a bath and that's it.

973
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 3: I guess they like.

974
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 2: Okay, bath salts. I did it. I'm terrible at gifts.

975
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

976
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 4: I think if somebody doesn't have any money is that

977
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 4: it's like they're great to buy for. But people who

978
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 4: are grown.

979
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 3: Up, right, it's hard to get somebody in house. It's

980
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 3: everything that they already have.

981
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 4: So you know one of those bath caddies that you

982
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 4: put across the bath. So I know, guy who takes

983
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 4: a lot of baths, he's got like one of those caddies,

984
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 4: is always instagramming himself.

985
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 3: Okay, you're talking about me. I'm a bath king.

986
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, bath caddy.

987
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 4: And then you know a bunch of bass salts. Look,

988
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 4: I'm of the opinion that five like small things are

989
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 4: more fun than one moderately big thing.

990
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 3: I think that's usually unless you can think of a wonderful.

991
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 2: Like the top of the line big thing.

992
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 3: Go, you know, do the shotgun blast one of these things,

993
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 3: maybe two of them will appeal to the person, and

994
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 3: if the other ones fail, it doesn't matter. They at

995
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 3: least got something out of it. Yeah, with theater, I don't. Unfortunately,

996
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: right now you're not getting much out of the theater.

997
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 2: When does this air?

998
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 3: This is January, so we're still deep in COVID.

999
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 4: There's I'm sure that they are going to be online

1000
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 4: theater performances, like special ticket items, items like the guy,

1001
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 4: you know, the guy who does like all the characters

1002
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 4: in Christmas Carol.

1003
00:49:59,239 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 3: I don't know that.

1004
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: I can't remember.

1005
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 4: I can't remember his name, but it's like a fifty

1006
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 4: dollars a kid or something. Okay, So I was going

1007
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 4: to suggest that, but it'll be too late.

1008
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 3: I wonder. I'm thinking, like, I wonder if they make

1009
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 3: any of those moisturizing masks that are also in the

1010
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 3: design of a theater mask. If they don't, that feels

1011
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 3: like something.

1012
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 2: The comedy dramaty moisturizing mask. Yes, oh my god.

1013
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 3: If somebody hasn't created that yet, I'm on it. I'll

1014
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 3: be trademarking that and patententing it. Patenting it. But that

1015
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 3: look for those go google a comedy dramaedy moisturizing mask.

1016
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 3: I think a nice candle with a bath is always good.

1017
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: Oh, candles are so annoying. I hate candles, Amy.

1018
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 3: I've taken two baths this year with candles, since since pandemic,

1019
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 3: I mean maybe the first two in my adult life.

1020
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 3: One of them was with a candle, which felt like

1021
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 3: I was going too far, but I thought, you know what,

1022
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 3: I think this was in early December. It felt incredible.

1023
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 3: It felt like I was really treating myself. All I

1024
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 3: had done was light a match and set a candle

1025
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 3: on fire.

1026
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 2: I'll give you that.

1027
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 4: I mean, it does feel like you're making an effort, right.

1028
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 4: I think there's just some of the scented candles are

1029
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 4: really like an annoying sense. But you know, I mean,

1030
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 4: you can always sniff at first and just give it

1031
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 4: a try. Okay, here, how about this idea? Find out

1032
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 4: what their favorite play is, right, and get like an

1033
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 4: old theater poster.

1034
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,720
Speaker 2: Oh well, that's a great idea of a smaller theater

1035
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: posters or a playbill or.

1036
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 3: The play bill you get the playbill frames. I'm sure

1037
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 3: that sort of thing is all over eBay.

1038
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1039
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 3: I feel like there's a lot of uh kind of

1040
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 3: tacky theater merchandise that you'll want to avoid. But if

1041
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 3: you go with the poster or playbill you're getting you're

1042
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 3: kind of getting the pure source of the theater. Yeah,

1043
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 3: and she'll probably be you know, she's in the bath

1044
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 3: looking at an old playbill.

1045
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

1046
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 3: Be careful. You don't want to ruin the gift.

1047
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 4: No, you know, Yeah, I think like the smaller poster

1048
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 4: of like an older you know, some carousel or something.

1049
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 3: Right, we don't have those details here, so she's got it.

1050
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 3: Hopefully she knows her friend's taste.

1051
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's the thing that says like classic theater,

1052
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 4: classic musical theater.

1053
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 3: Right, and giving somebody something like that is really telling

1054
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 3: them I think you have good taste. Yeah, And so

1055
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 3: it's also a compliment. Kate. I think that your friend

1056
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 3: is going to be stunned by your generosity and your thoughtfulness.

1057
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 3: And it's all thanks to me. Amy has helped, but

1058
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 3: it's largely my doing. So Kate, go on and do

1059
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 3: what you need to do, and hopefully your relationship will

1060
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 3: just this one uping will keep happening until it destroys

1061
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 3: the relationship and then you can forget about giving each

1062
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 3: other gifts. That's a good strategy plan I think we

1063
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 3: got into that and gave such good advice there that

1064
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 3: we don't have to answer another question.

1065
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 2: I agree.

1066
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 3: I mean people can only ask for so much.

1067
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: You want to end on a high note.

1068
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 3: You want to If you the next question, who knows,

1069
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 3: it could end up with you and I in a fight,

1070
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 3: and then people leave the podcast in a sour mood.

1071
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 3: You and I drift apart.

1072
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 2: We each get a migraine, we each.

1073
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 3: Except from a migraine meld, and that could be devastating. Amy.

1074
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: This mask is beautiful. I'm so excited. I hope that

1075
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 3: this sparks something in me and suddenly I'm collecting masks.

1076
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 4: I don't know how it's going to fit in with

1077
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 4: your decorps, but I will find a way cram it

1078
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 4: in somehow.

1079
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 3: Well. I told you about a few months ago I

1080
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 3: received this giant box. I had ordered something online and

1081
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 3: received this giant box and I opened it up and

1082
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 3: it was a tiki mask that was like forty pounds.

1083
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it was not what I had ordered.

1084
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 2: That great. Did you send it back or is it?

1085
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 3: I tried to game the system. I tried to be

1086
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 3: like because I wanted it. Of course I didn't want

1087
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 3: to pay for it, but I was like, maybe I

1088
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 3: could have a giant tiki mask in my backyard. So

1089
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 3: I tried to game the customer service by being more

1090
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 3: difficult than I needed to be about returning it. They

1091
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 3: demanded that I return them, so I said, Okay, I'll

1092
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 3: just leave it on my porch and you can come

1093
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 3: find it, thinking that was my last ditch effort for

1094
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 3: them to be like, Okay, we'll keep it. They came

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Speaker 3: and found it, like in the middle of the night,

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Speaker 3: and it was gone. Well maybe I got sobody.

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Speaker 2: That's a good question.

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Speaker 4: But god, I just wish I could have seen it.

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Speaker 3: I know, I wish everyone. I wish I would have

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00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 3: thrown a post COVID party all about my teaking mass.

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00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 3: What are you going to do? Well, thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for being here. I've had a wonderful time. My pleasure, Bridger,

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00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 3: and thank you for the theme song. I mean, this

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Speaker 3: podcast is whatever it is, but at least people the

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00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 3: first forty five seconds they get an incredible world class

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00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 3: treat Nobody can deny that.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate the compliment, and I mean, it's no come on, Eileen,

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Speaker 4: but but I.

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Speaker 2: Am wearing overalls without a shirt, so.

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Speaker 3: Amy stumbled out of her car without a shirt on,

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00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 3: just overalls. I asked, Amy, what are you doing? But

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Speaker 3: here we are recording it. You'll find out later if

1113
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 3: you ask the right questions, you'll know what's happening here. Listener,

1114
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Speaker 3: that's the end of the podcast, and that's the end

1115
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Speaker 3: of you being outside with us. And so you know,

1116
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Speaker 3: we've all got to be careful, and so we're all

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Speaker 3: spending more time outdoors with our friends distantly apart. Let's

1118
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Speaker 3: be careful. We're in the final act of this horrible

1119
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Speaker 3: pandemic fingers crossed. So let's just keep being careful and

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Speaker 3: I'll talk to you soon. Bye bye, I said, No

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Speaker 3: Gifts is an exactly right production. It's engineered by our

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Speaker 3: dear friend an Alise Nelson, and the theme song is

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Speaker 3: by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show

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00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 3: on Instagram at I said, No Gifts, that's where you're

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Speaker 3: going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting.

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Speaker 3: Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you

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Speaker 3: found me, and why not leave a review while you're there.

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Speaker 3: It's really the least you could do. And if you're

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Speaker 3: interested in advertising on the show, go to mid roll

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Speaker 3: dot com slash ads.

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Speaker 1: But I invited you here, thought, I made myself perfectly clear.

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Speaker 1: When you're a guess to my home, you gotta come

1133
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: to me empty. And I said, no, guess, your own

1134
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So

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Speaker 1: how do you dare to surbey me?