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Speaker 1: Sure you name it, THEO says, Hi, Mandy and Tiffany,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the weekly career and financial advice you

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Speaker 3: Love it, THEO.

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Speaker 1: I just listened to this week's episode CNN's Diversifying Negotiate.

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Speaker 3: Your Way to Success.

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Speaker 1: Having recently received a new job offer, I decided to

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Speaker 1: We can see why you do this, you know because

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Speaker 3: I love it, THEO.

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Speaker 2: You are our core audience, just like a beautiful black king,

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Speaker 1: But if if the business goes down, everybody's out of

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Speaker 2: I would say, And this isn't my new guide nail

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Speaker 1: reason why I am good at teaching as the budgetista

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Speaker 1: skill set I honed about teaching and negotiating. Negotiating is

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe the scripts are like you know about

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Speaker 1: like jobs and things, No, no, no, no, there's a

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Speaker 1: how you negotiate, this is the tone, here's some of

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Speaker 1: the phrasing here. So I'm excited to get that Randy

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Speaker 1: Mandy's resource because I'm just like no girl. You know,

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Speaker 1: even as a business owner, I struggle with sometimes illustrating

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Speaker 1: my own OPRAH to brands and companies who want to

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Speaker 1: hire me, who say they don't have the budget or whatever.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, Okay, I know from this resource that

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Speaker 1: was a job opportunity, I would say this, how do

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Speaker 1: I flip it a little bit for this opportunity for

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Speaker 1: being hired to be a speaker or whatever. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: so mandymoney dot com, nail the negotiating negotiations. What is it?

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Speaker 2: Nail the negotiations, Nail the negotiation. Nineteen scripts that you

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Speaker 2: can use to secure the bag. Yeah, I live for

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Speaker 2: this stuff. I love helping y'all figure out how to

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Speaker 2: phrase these conversations because yeah, no one prepares us for

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Speaker 2: those type of situations. But I love that you're even

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Speaker 2: in this situation. THEO for y'all who are like I

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Speaker 2: don't feel like I'm being paid my worth where I'm

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Speaker 2: working now. THEO is has proven one of the best

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Speaker 2: ways to get that raise is by proving that someone

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Speaker 2: else will hire you at a higher price point and

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Speaker 2: then bringing that offer to your management now and saying like,

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Speaker 2: what are y'all gonna do about that?

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Speaker 3: THEO?

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Speaker 1: You look and you illustrate your open You look in good.

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Speaker 1: It's opuspinking right out here, looking look at THEO.

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Speaker 3: Look at how you looking?

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Speaker 1: Yes, before we jump off, Jude, I forget I want

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Speaker 1: you guys, So going over to Netflix. It is now

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Speaker 1: live as of I mean, we're recording it now. It's

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Speaker 1: not live, but by the time you listen to this,

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Speaker 1: it is live. Get Smart with Money my Netflix documentary,

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Speaker 1: not to be confused with Get Good with Money, my

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Speaker 1: New Times best selling book, but Get Smart with Money

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Speaker 1: is live. Please go and watch and I would love

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Speaker 1: you know what, this is what I'd love if you

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Speaker 1: can tweet us at the BA podcast and or at

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Speaker 1: the Budget Nista. Tell me which one of the form

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Speaker 1: families that were helped that you resonated most with it.

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Speaker 1: You're like, Oh, I'm like such and such. I struggled

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Speaker 1: with that, so I would just really love to know.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I have somebody who I resonated with, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, like heavily, because it was like, that was

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Speaker 1: how my life looked like fifteen years ago financially and

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Speaker 1: so yeah, Get Smart with Money is available on Netflix.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead and watch sit down. It's very feel good.

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Speaker 1: So you could watch it with your kids, especially if

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Speaker 1: they're like high school and college.

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Speaker 3: To be like, yeah, don't do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, tweet be your feedback, but really tweet me, like,

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Speaker 1: who do you resonate most with.

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Speaker 3: We're super super excited. Yes, Get Smart with Monday.

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Speaker 2: We're busy visio here. Congratulations tip, thank you, and congratulations

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Speaker 2: to you THEO for twenty two percent raise either way,

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Speaker 2: I think you're gonna be earning more at the end

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Speaker 2: of this. But send us your updates and to all

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Speaker 2: of you guys wondering how can I get my question

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Speaker 2: right by my financial besties, you can go to our

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Speaker 2: Instagram page and slide into our DMS at Brand Ambision Podcast.

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Speaker 2: You can also email us directly Brand Ambition Podcast at

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Speaker 2: gmail dot com dot com. Until next week, Bye y'all, bye,

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Speaker 2: hey ba fam. We could not do this show without

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Speaker 2: your support or the support of our team behind the scenes.

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Speaker 2: The Brown Ambition Podcast is produced by Cumulus Podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: It's edited by the wonderful Imani Crosby and produced by

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Speaker 2: Tanya Bustos. Dennis Stimplinsky is our in house tech guru,

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Speaker 2: and I am Bandy Woodrid Santos your co host, and

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Speaker 2: I will see y'all next week