1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:05,039 Speaker 1: This is the OTP. 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 2: I'm Ammie Wells and we are coming to you from 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: sunny Indianapolis. That's right, everybody. It is the greatest week 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: of the year. We are at the NFL Scouting Combine. 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: Taylor Zarza is here as well. 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: Tz. It's your first. 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 3: One, it's my first one. I'm a rookie. I'm the 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 3: oldest rookie in the history of the combine. But I 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 3: am a rookie. And you're right, it is now sunny, 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 3: but it was snowy, yes, and it is cold, and 11 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 3: you and I were really cold in some crazy wind 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 3: as we were trying to brave the elements here in 13 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: Indianapolis during our trip here. 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: Which which is a mistake. 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: Just as a general rule, going outside in Indianapolis is 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: a bad choice. You need to just stick to the 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: places you can get to via skybridge. It was too 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: cold for our wandering behavior. 19 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, I love to go outside, and my 20 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: wife challenges me to go outside and get some sunshine 21 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 3: as much as possible. But I very much respect and 22 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 3: appreciate that Indianapolis tries to keep you indoors as much 23 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 3: as possible. 24 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, look out a window, like right, you can see 25 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: this all, yeah, there it is. It's fine. 26 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, like this just is not the place for wandering 27 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: outdoors in February. But really, this is your first time here. 28 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts Having experienced a couple days of this. 29 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 3: Now, Oh my gosh, I've learned so much just about 30 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 3: the process of how you evaluate a player, how important 31 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 3: the medical process is. During the combine, the measurables. Somebody 32 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 3: says that they're five foot eleven, but they're really five 33 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: They're really five foot ten in my case, but five 34 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: eleven sure sounds fun, even though I've never been that. 35 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's obviously a huge part of it. I 36 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: think the job fair that is the combine, as everybody 37 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 3: is interacting with each other, either trying to get a 38 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: better job than the one that they currently have or 39 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: trying to find one because they don't have one. That's 40 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: an interesting component to it. It's the biggest convention that 41 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: the NFL has each year, and the other part of 42 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: it that I'm really fascinated by. And I know that 43 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: coach Sala and Mike Borgonzi are going to join us. 44 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 3: I think that the communication the two of them and 45 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: their staffs, the coaching staff and the front office are 46 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: having with each other is critical as you're trying to 47 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: build a championship level football team. Yes, you got to 48 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: go find the players, but you have to understand each 49 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: other and how each operates. And I've really been impressed 50 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: by the willingness that all of them have do that. 51 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: Is they all converge here in Indianapolis. 52 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. 53 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: It's a great opportunity for for every staff in the 54 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: National Football League, but especially the Titans, given that there's 55 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: a new head coach, given that there's a whole new 56 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: coaching staff, and I mean a personnel group that's only 57 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: been together for two years since there are still some 58 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: adjustments that are being made there. So there's there's a 59 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: lot to do here. There's a lot of people working 60 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: really hard, but there's also a lot of fun to 61 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: be had in DC. 62 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 4: So many of you done. 63 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: This is my fourteenth Wow. Yeah, yeah, so Ben here 64 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: a time or two. I've seen this room we're in 65 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: right now in the Convention Center configured about ninety eight 66 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: different ways. I've seen every iteration. When I first started, 67 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: it was they had all of the media in essentially 68 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: like a club level dining space in Lucas Oil Stadium, 69 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: so we were in the stadium and people would just 70 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: like spill out into the hallway and you just kind 71 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: of like post up for the day if you could 72 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: find a bench somewhere, or you just like kind of 73 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: sit on the floor. And we didn't have these assigned 74 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: spots like we did now. It was just rows of 75 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: tables and you came in and you met a lot 76 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: of people because it was like, hey, stranger, can I 77 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: sit here and edit video next to you for eight 78 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: hours today? 79 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 4: Great? 80 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: So it has changed a lot. 81 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: I'm by no means like a Dave McGinnis who's seen 82 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: thirty of them, but I've seen enough to kind of 83 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 2: know my. 84 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: Way around this forty years in Indianapolis. They did have 85 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: some level of combines before that. It's also interesting how 86 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 3: different teams amy subscribed to different services and use interesting 87 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: amounts of analytics and data to form their opinions about 88 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: the draft. That's been fascinating to me. All the drafts, 89 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: you know, used to be called the Wonderlick. Now I 90 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: think it's called the one score that they do all 91 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 3: those things. Of course, everybody is talking about what does 92 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: each team need versus drafting the best player? Like there's 93 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 3: just so much. This has been really fun for me 94 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: to take in for the first time. 95 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: It's my favorite event. I'm so glad that you're finally 96 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: a part of it. 97 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 4: My sinuses are open, by the way. 98 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you had the Saint Elmo's experience. 99 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: Yes, shrimp cocktail, Yes, and I can smell everything right now. 100 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 4: It's so good, it. 101 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: Is it so tasty? 102 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 4: All right. 103 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: Another thing that's really good is the Tennessee Titans head 104 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: coach Robert Sala. We had the opportunity to talk to 105 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: him and would love to share that with the OT people. 106 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: So let's just get right to it. TZ Here, here 107 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 2: we are with Titan's head coach Robert Sala. Head coach 108 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 2: Robert Sala. We so appreciate you taking the time with 109 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 2: us here in Indianapolis at the scouting combine. Now, you're 110 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 2: not a stranger to the combine. You've been here a 111 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: lot of times, and you've been here as a head coach. 112 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: But how are you approaching it a little bit differently 113 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: this time this week in Indianapolis. 114 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 5: You know, it's it's more the same. You know, you've 115 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 5: got you go through all these different stages, I guess 116 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 5: you could say, but the biggest and you can get 117 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 5: from a coaching standpoint is when you get when you 118 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 5: can have those formal interviews. They're in the room, they're 119 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 5: not as rehearsed. You know, when you're in the informals, 120 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 5: it's you're you're firing out at speed dating. They're rehearsed. 121 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 5: But when you get them in the formals, you can 122 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 5: interview them in a way that they can't prepare for. 123 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 5: And so you know, it's it's really good to be 124 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 5: in those And I know it's only fifteen to twenty 125 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 5: minutes and we're not we're not stamping players based off 126 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 5: those interviews, but you do get at least the ball 127 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 5: rolling with regards to the information you need to make 128 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 5: the right decision come drafting. 129 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 3: Are you looking at the kind of culture, how they 130 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 3: fit into your culture, the kind of teammate they are, 131 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 3: what do you covet most in those conversations. 132 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 5: You know, there's a lot of teams do a lot 133 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 5: of different things, you know, whether it's you know, some 134 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 5: teams will look for the culture piece. Some teams will 135 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 5: have a big fun, fun time in there, kind of 136 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 5: like a recruiting deal. Some teams will try to get 137 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 5: those kids off kilter, you know, and try to try 138 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 5: to try to make them uncomfortable. We, at least for me, 139 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 5: take the approach more of trying to extract some football 140 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 5: IQ out of them. We're trying to you know, we've 141 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 5: already got a lot of information with regards to character. 142 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 5: Will continue to build on the character piece to make 143 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 5: sure we piece that puzzle together the right way. But 144 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 5: any opportunity we get to meet these guys face to 145 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 5: face in an unrehearsed environment, we're going to try to 146 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 5: extract their football IQ to see whether or not they 147 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 5: can play the game at the level they need to 148 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 5: play at the way they need to play it at 149 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 5: this level. 150 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: So, as you're evaluating players, what we've heard you talk 151 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: about a lot is you want fast and violent football 152 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: for the Tennessee Titans. 153 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: That's what you're looking for. 154 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: How do you use this time to measure if a 155 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: guy is a fast, violent football player? Are there things 156 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: that you can glean here that help you get to that. 157 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 5: Ultimately, Well, it's all encompassing, which you know, the forty 158 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 5: time is just a piece. The shuttles, the three cones, 159 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 5: the verticals, the bench like they're just a small piece. 160 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 5: Their ability to absorb information, you know, the their ability 161 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 5: to learn, their ability to think, you know, all of 162 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 5: it is. It's all encompassing. And it takes not just 163 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 5: this combine. It takes a whole process to be able 164 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 5: to figure that out. Now, from a fast and violence standpoint, 165 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 5: that's where we come in. And so you you draft 166 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 5: these players, and it's about teaching them in a way 167 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 5: that allows them to play free your thoughts, so they 168 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 5: can extract all the testing numbers that they pulled. You know, 169 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 5: Like I've always said that the kryptonite to God's gift 170 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 5: is the mind. You know, you're gifted with all this 171 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 5: athleticism and length and speed and explosiveness, and but the 172 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 5: more you're thinking, the less you're using it. And so 173 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 5: it's our job as the coaching staff to make sure 174 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 5: that they're not thinking when they play. And that's that's 175 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 5: so it's a it's a team effort. 176 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, And people historically talk about like greatest performances in 177 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 3: combine history. Chris Johnson, Tennessee Titans flying through this facility 178 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 3: is one that comes to mind. Something come to mind 179 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 3: for you. In the almost fifty years you've been coming here. 180 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 5: Oh man, there's been some really cool moments and guys 181 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 5: who have knocked it out. I've seen guys who didn't 182 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 5: have a great combine and still had unbelievable careers, like 183 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 5: like Nick Bosa didn't light up the combine and and 184 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 5: you know, if he can have a few if he 185 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 5: can string together some years of no injuries where he's 186 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 5: missing the season, I think he's a Hall of Fame talent. 187 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 5: And then you know, you've got guys who have knocked 188 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 5: this thing out the park and we're complete flubs, you know. 189 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 5: So it's ah, like I said, it's a piece of information, 190 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 5: it's not definitive, but but there are there's there's exciting moments. 191 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 5: I couldn't been point one though. 192 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: The coaching and aspect of it all, that piece is 193 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: really interesting to me because you've assembled a staff that 194 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 2: has a tremendous amount of experience, a bunch of former 195 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: head coaches on this staff. Does that change the way 196 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: that you make decisions, the way that you design what 197 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: you're going to do with the regular season with the 198 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: off season because you have so much experience, I mean, 199 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 2: nothing's going to surprise your staff. 200 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 5: No, you you know, it doesn't change the way we operate, 201 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 5: but it does. It does give you comfort. I guess 202 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 5: you could say, like, and it's not fake experience, Like 203 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 5: I'm so excited about this staff, Like I don't. I 204 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 5: don't think people realize like the amount of competition that 205 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 5: we had for our guys. There was eighteen oc job openings, 206 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,599 Speaker 5: a bunch of decordinator job openings for Gus Bradley to 207 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 5: join us, with offers at different locations for more money 208 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 5: and play calling ability, but to be here because he 209 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 5: knows we're going to build something special. Day Ball had 210 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 5: a lot of offers as a as a coordinator at 211 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 5: multiple spots and for him to choose us, for him 212 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 5: to choose Cam speaks volumes about the quarterback and our organization. 213 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 5: And then Bones had a lot of requests. Even though 214 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 5: he was under contract. He could have easily walked in 215 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 5: my office and thrown a bottle of water in my 216 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 5: face and got out, you know, like could do whatever 217 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 5: he wanted if he really wanted to. But but he 218 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 5: wants to be here, and he knows that we're going 219 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 5: to do something special, and so we are. We are 220 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 5: an experienced staff. We do have a good mix of 221 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 5: young guys and it's refreshing from my end, like I 222 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 5: can lean into day Ball who's been a head coach, 223 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 5: and Gus who's been a head coach, and even Bones 224 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 5: being an interim a head coach and being part of 225 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 5: being in this league for so long. So an elite 226 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 5: staff in that regard, And I'll just one more thing 227 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 5: to brag about the staff. But it's not fake experience either, 228 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 5: Like these guys have had been in multiple buildings, have 229 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 5: had success in multiple buildings, and have evolved their systems. 230 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 5: They're not playing an archaic brand of ball that they 231 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 5: that they first started on. They've all evolved and have 232 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 5: kind of kept up with the times, which gives me 233 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 5: confidence that we're going to continue to grow and evolve. 234 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you look at each of them individually, 235 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: they're truly the best at what they do. You included, 236 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 3: I mean, you'd look at them and see what they've 237 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 3: done throughout their time in the National Football League, and 238 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: they've had tremendous success. You can also say that about 239 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,119 Speaker 3: the front office to coach. Yeah, you know with Mike Borgonzi, 240 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: with Dave Ziegler, with Reg McKenzie, with Chad Brinker. How 241 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 3: much are you evaluating prospects right now? And how much 242 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 3: are you guys learning how to work together they're right now? 243 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 3: And how Mike goes about his business and evaluating players 244 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 3: and him asking you, hey, what style do you like here? 245 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 4: Et cetera. How much of you guys doing that right now? Yeah? 246 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 5: First off, Borgo is relentless with regards to as work ethic. 247 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 5: I mean it's I had joked with him the other 248 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 5: day because I think he went like god like three 249 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 5: straight seven day weeks of eighteen hours with his guys. 250 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, Borgo, you know, during the season, even 251 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 5: a coach will take Friday night off to hang out 252 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 5: with the family. You know, it's okay to but they're 253 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 5: they're grinding. But he's awesome. He's been great. He gave 254 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 5: us the stage like not a lot of guys do this. 255 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 5: And then you know, we had an opportunity to sit 256 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 5: with the entire staff and go through every position and 257 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 5: in detail of what we ask out of our guys. 258 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 5: Call it a profile tape, and they asked questions of us, 259 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 5: we asked questions of them, and really allowed us an opportunity. 260 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 5: I'll get on the same page with what we're looking 261 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 5: for from a player standpoint, and you know, so we're 262 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 5: grateful for that. But he's been communicating with us constantly, 263 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 5: you know, even through this process here just having us 264 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 5: here and talking about free agency, the draft, we're talking 265 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 5: about our schemes and what we're seeing with individual players 266 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 5: and evaluating the roster. So the communication has been very 267 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 5: collaborative in that regard and looking forward to. 268 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: That continuing high level. 269 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: When you're describing what a titan is and what those 270 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: characteristics or traits are that you're looking for, what are 271 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: you guys deciding? 272 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 5: I think it's universal. You know, you got you want 273 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 5: guys who love the game of football, who are relentless 274 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 5: in their pursuit to be great, intrinsically motivated to get 275 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 5: better every single day. And and I think if you 276 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 5: find guys who are that, they usually find success. And 277 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 5: you know, there's a distinct difference, a very fine line 278 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 5: between players who love the game of football and everything 279 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 5: it brings them, or everything at everything it entails, like 280 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 5: going to practice, regen weight room, just all of it. 281 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 5: And then there's as compared to the guys who love 282 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 5: what football brings them. You know, those two people are very, 283 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 5: very very different in the game of football, where obviously 284 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 5: one loves practice, and the other one does practice because 285 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 5: it's going to get him paid and he's going to 286 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 5: go get to go to a club and be popular 287 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 5: for a little bit, very very very big difference between 288 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 5: the two. And so if you can find enough guys 289 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 5: who just absolutely love this game and everything that comes 290 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 5: with it, you're probably gonna end up with a good 291 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 5: football team. 292 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: Finally, this feels like the beginning of something special right 293 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: now with the Tennessee Titans. I know you can sense 294 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 3: that as well. In order for that to remain to 295 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: be true, how important is it to stack another really 296 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 3: good draft class this year? 297 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 5: It's not just a draft class, it's a free agency class. 298 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 5: It's it's every day stacking great days. You know, I've 299 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 5: said it before. You know, go to bed better than 300 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 5: when you woke up. That includes with what we're doing 301 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 5: with the organization and every facet and anytime there's an 302 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 5: opportunity to bring player in. It's it's the most important. 303 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 5: Every player is the most important player. You know, if 304 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 5: Ken Norton Junior taught me a long time ago that 305 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 5: it's our job to fight like hell to keep our 306 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 5: players in and to give all our players all the 307 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 5: love they need and attention, they need to get better, 308 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 5: and when the organization decides to bring in another one, 309 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 5: it's our job to love and do everything we can 310 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 5: for that player to make him better. So, to answer 311 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 5: your question, every player that comes in is at that 312 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 5: moment the most important piece in terms of trying to 313 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 5: always get better and evolve our our help our team 314 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 5: get to where it wants to get to. So stacking days, 315 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 5: stacking free agency, stacking the draft, OTAs, Phase one, two, three, 316 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 5: training camp, preseason games that they all matter. 317 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: Coach Sala, we know you have a lot of work 318 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: to do here in Indy. Thank you so much for. 319 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 4: I appreciate you guys every day and every day every day. 320 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: Maybe a different story for Robert and Taylor on the 321 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 3: golf course, but definitely on the football field. 322 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 5: I think one percent on the. 323 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Thank you Titans fans. 324 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: Seat geek is the official primary ticketing partner of Tighten 325 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: Up and here to help you experience all the action 326 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: this season. 327 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: Seat Geek makes it. 328 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: Easy to find the perfect seats to the perfect game 329 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: so you can be part of all the touchdown celebrations 330 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: and momentum shifting takeaways this season. 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We know you've 350 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 2: got a lot going on here. Second, combine as a 351 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: general manager of an NFL team, what's different about this 352 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 2: time for you. 353 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 6: You know, this time for me is you have more 354 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 6: familiarity with the staff, right, you know, last year when 355 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 6: you get hired, you're still trying to figure out your staff, 356 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 6: and going through the draft meetings is completely different that 357 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 6: first time around to now everybody's used to the grading 358 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 6: scale and the system and then and then then you 359 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 6: kind of hit the ground run and when you get 360 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 6: to the combine because you know exactly, you know how 361 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 6: we're operating. And I still think there was some of 362 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 6: that last year. We're you're still trying to teach some 363 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 6: of that as we go before the draft. But now 364 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 6: everybody's in the same page, which is a huge part. 365 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 6: And now we have a new staff here and coaching 366 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 6: staff and and just and that's been great too, and 367 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 6: you know, working with with coach Sylla and his staff 368 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 6: and just you know, going through we went through a 369 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 6: couple of days of just building like positional profile tapes 370 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 6: these players, which I think was awesome. So saying all that, 371 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 6: once you get to the combine, you feel more prepared. 372 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 3: At this point, coach Sala was talking about how much 373 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 3: he enjoyed going through that process with you of building 374 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 3: the profile of each position. And how helpful it was 375 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 3: for him for you to go through that exercise with him. 376 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 3: Does does that process change your process of going through 377 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 3: the draft at all, knowing the way that coach Sala 378 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: likes to coach his team. 379 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 6: Absolutely, I think so yes, especially when you're going through 380 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 6: a scheme change. You know, we're they're more and even front. 381 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 6: We were on our front last year, so a lot 382 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 6: of the evaluation we doing in the fall. You know, take, 383 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 6: for instance, an outside linebacker, a thirty four outside linebacker 384 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 6: now that we have to convert into this defense. Are 385 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 6: they a rush end now? Are they just a DPR? 386 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 6: So it's really just trying to figure out the front 387 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 6: those guys first. But hearing it firsthand from the coaches 388 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 6: and them actually having to build tapes profile tapes, And 389 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 6: we did it right before our college meeting, so all 390 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 6: the college scouts were in there before we started the meetings. 391 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 6: I think was great because it was fresh in their 392 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 6: minds as we were about to talk about these players. 393 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 2: So you really have something that's a reference point where 394 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: you can say, hey, we like this guy. He's got this, 395 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: this and this, and he fits the mold, or he's 396 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 2: a good player, but he's not what we need is that. 397 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, the idea. 398 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 4: I think that's a big part of it. 399 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 6: You have to have the same vision for the player, 400 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 6: and I think there's certain traits and qualities for these 401 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 6: players at different positions. For example, the linebacker position, it's 402 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 6: length and speed. So that's what we're looking for now, 403 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 6: length and speed. So you know, having those conversations on 404 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 6: the front end is very important. 405 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: I love having you on with us for a lot 406 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 3: of reasons. I also love having you on for the 407 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 3: question you're about to have to answer instead of Amy 408 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 3: and Taylor having to answer this question. Do you go 409 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: into a draft sand we've got to get a pass rusher, 410 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 3: we've got to get a cornerback, we've got to get 411 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 3: a receiver. Or do you go into the draft mic 412 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,479 Speaker 3: and say, we need to stockpile players and you know, 413 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 3: maybe you have a quarterback, but maybe aside from that, 414 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 3: we're just gonna get the best player we can possibly get, 415 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 3: no matter what the position is when it's our turn 416 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: to pick. 417 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 6: You know, I think at the end of each season, 418 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 6: you're always evaluating the strengths and weaknesses of your team, 419 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 6: and you evaluate needs the weaknesses and we have to 420 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 6: fill and once you go through free agency, you build 421 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 6: a free agent it's almost just like a draft board, 422 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 6: and you have your free agent board, you have her, 423 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 6: and then your first phase of the draft board, which 424 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 6: we just want to with the college scouts, and then 425 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 6: you kind of you can put them side by side 426 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 6: and look and if you need players, is there a 427 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 6: certain amount of is there lesser quantity in the draft 428 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 6: and maybe at this certain position, maybe you can fill 429 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 6: it in free agency. So those are the conversations we're having. 430 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 6: But I think we always want to have discipline in 431 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 6: our process what we do. And you know, we're a 432 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 6: team that still wants to build through the draft. You know, 433 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 6: draft and develop and have young guys, build the culture 434 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 6: of the locker room. That's how you build a team. 435 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 6: But yeah, that's certainly you know, when you're fill in 436 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 6: those you have to be cognizant of the needs, of course, 437 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 6: but you never want to force a player in the 438 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 6: draft just because you need a player. You want to 439 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 6: stay disciplined and take, you know, what's the best value 440 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 6: on the board at that time. 441 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: So in twenty twenty five had a great draft, got 442 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: a lot of production out of a lot of really 443 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: young players, building on that going into the twenty sixth season, 444 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: are you hoping to bring in a bunch more players 445 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 2: that will have that same level of productivity early or 446 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 2: do you feel like now you you're building a bit 447 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: of a foundation and guys can really come in and 448 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: develop and then contribute more. 449 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 6: I think that it always it depends on the position 450 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 6: who you draft right right, and as you build that foundation, 451 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 6: and then you know, sometimes it's harder to get younger 452 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 6: players on the field at that point, but usually that 453 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 6: takes a few years of drafting. So we're going to 454 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 6: bring in the same type of players though, you know, 455 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 6: we're never gonna waiver on that in terms of the 456 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 6: character and the football, the personal character, the way they work, 457 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 6: and I think this class exemplified that and we wanted to, 458 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 6: you know, create the standard for what we're looking for here. 459 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, look Kevin Winston, Fami Oladejo, and 460 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 3: then all those guys that caught balls for you that 461 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 3: you drafted later on in the draft with DK helm 462 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 3: and Io Manor, to Amy's point, really made an impact. 463 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: As you look at this draft into day two and 464 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: into day three, do you see guys that could make 465 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 3: the kind of impact that those guys did last season. 466 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 4: I do, Yeah, I do. 467 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 6: I think the important part again is evaluating the talent piece, 468 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 6: but then the character is I think those guys were 469 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 6: able to get on the field so early it's because 470 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 6: they work so hard in the offseason to pick up 471 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 6: the playbook and they knew what they were doing. The 472 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 6: coaches trusted them. So I do think, you know, looking 473 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 6: at this draft here, there's certainly those type of players 474 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 6: as well. 475 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 2: What's a lesson that you learned in your first year 476 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 2: as a general manager that you are maybe keeping top 477 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 2: of mind as you go into year two. 478 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 6: Sometimes you just have to say no, there you go. 479 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 6: You get so many requested sometimes whatever it is, you 480 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 6: don't have enough time in the day and you have 481 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 6: to porize, prioritize what's really important. 482 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 4: So that's very important key to life. 483 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 3: By Yeah, I'm fascinated by this, going through this process 484 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 3: and seeing all this the way that every team does 485 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 3: it differently. They are teams that aren't here, teams that 486 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 3: have brought everybody here. They're teams that use different kind 487 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 3: of service than another team uses. Some teams are all 488 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 3: about medicals and measurables. Some teams have got to stop 489 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 3: watch out. How important is the combine to you, Mike, 490 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 3: Traditionally and in present day. 491 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 4: I think it's crucial. 492 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 6: You know, the combine was started obviously for the medical part, right, 493 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 6: and then it expanded on to the workouts and interviews. 494 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 6: But you know, for us, I mean, obviously the medical 495 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 6: is the most important thing, and I think it's very important. 496 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 6: I think to sit down with these players. This is 497 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 6: really the first touch point for all of us, especially 498 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 6: the coaches, for sure, to sit down with them. Whether 499 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 6: it's formal interviews is twenty minutes, you can still get 500 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 6: a lot out of those in twenty minutes because we 501 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 6: get right into the football talk and you can get 502 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 6: a sense of their football intelligence and how they talk 503 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 6: through and personality. And then you have the informals which 504 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 6: can be longer with the coaches. Just the coaches, So 505 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 6: I think it's invaluable. Everybody has their different philosophies and 506 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 6: it works for them. I just know what's worked for 507 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 6: us in the in the past, and the group of 508 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 6: guys that I have, I think it's very important to 509 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 6: meet these guys here. 510 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: Listening to you talk to the media, one of the 511 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 2: things that you mentioned is that you're looking for guys 512 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: who are fast processors. How do you evaluate that? How 513 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: do you measure how quickly someone can process information? 514 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 6: Sometimes it takes for instance, like a safety the safety 515 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 6: position usually takes the longest because they're processing so much 516 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 6: information from the back end. Right. But the more tape 517 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 6: that you watch on a player, it's their instinctual feel. 518 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 6: How do they process things. It's a quarterback, how do 519 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 6: they recoverages and see receivers come open? If it's a linebacker, 520 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 6: you know, when there's so much movement going on the 521 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 6: line of scrimmage, how can they how can they decipher 522 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 6: you know, you know where the ball carriers at that 523 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 6: point it's a corner they're trying to mirror match that. 524 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 6: There are tools that you know that teams use, and 525 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 6: there's cognitive tools and that the tests that they use 526 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 6: that and help you sometimes, but usually it's a lot 527 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 6: of film work really to see how they really process 528 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 6: in the game. And another part of bringing him here 529 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 6: doing the interviews is you can talk through them with them. 530 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 6: In certain instances and things you see on film. These 531 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 6: coaches will make twenty play cutups and they'll ask, what 532 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 6: do you see here? Why are you making this decision. 533 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 6: So that comes back to the processing part, and I 534 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 6: think that's the way to drill down on it, and 535 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 6: this the first part of it is here. 536 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 3: Since you brought up safety, it made me think of 537 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 3: something last year. It felt sort of like Cedric Gray 538 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 3: was having a rookie season. I mean, only played in 539 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: a couple of games in twenty twenty four, and he 540 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 3: was fantastic. Obviously, it's a tackling machine. And it feels 541 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 3: like Kevin Winston and fami Ola Dajo almost are like 542 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 3: rookies going into twenty twenty six because we saw them 543 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 3: in a limited capacity due to health. But when we 544 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 3: did see them, Mike, they really showcase their talent. Do 545 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 3: you almost feel like you have a couple of extra 546 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 3: rookies going into twenty twenty six. 547 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was. 548 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 6: It was valuable for them to play, obviously the first 549 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 6: year at the time that they've gone through some injuries. 550 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 6: But but yeah, you know, I do think you can 551 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 6: hit the ground running. And except an example of that 552 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 6: is said, you know, I think when I first got here, 553 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 6: you know, you're evaluating whole roster, and I think said 554 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 6: played that one game in Indianapolis, he had like you know, 555 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 6: eighteen tackles or something like that means all over the field, 556 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 6: and said, this guy's pretty instinctive. He's a good player, 557 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 6: and you know he was able to take that jump 558 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 6: this year. So I do see some of that with 559 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 6: Femi and Kevin, and it was good for them to 560 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 6: get some experience this year. But now second year, boom, 561 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 6: you know, hit the ground run. 562 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 2: As we're here at the combine, not only are people 563 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 2: getting ready for the upcoming draft, but there's also some 564 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: free agency things starting to swirl. This is the time 565 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 2: of year where all of that kicks off. Balancing the 566 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 2: two and doing the two almost simultaneously feels like an 567 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: incredible amount of just things that you. 568 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 4: Have to do. 569 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: But is that a little bit helpful because of how 570 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: intertwined the two are. 571 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 4: Certainly. 572 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 6: Yeah. You know, obviously free agency comes before the draft, 573 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 6: So like I'm just going back to, you know, once 574 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 6: we have those two boards up and you're trying to 575 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 6: figure out where you can fill some of some of 576 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 6: those needs and where where some of the value is, 577 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 6: whether it's in the draft at the position or free 578 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 6: agency is part of it. And we'll have that negotiation 579 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 6: window here in a couple of weeks that we can 580 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 6: finally talk with some of the agents and and and 581 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 6: go through that whole process. 582 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 3: Now, my last thing for you, Mike is you are 583 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 3: talking with us. At the end of last season. You 584 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 3: said this in the press conference. You needed somebody that 585 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 3: was going to unite the entire building, and it certainly 586 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 3: feels like we've gotten that with Robert Salad. Now that 587 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 3: you've lived it for a little while, can you tell 588 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 3: Titans fans what it's like now to have Coach Salad, 589 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 3: Coach Stable, Coach Bradley in the building. 590 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 6: It's hard to explain, but you can feel it. You 591 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 6: can feel the energy in the building, you can feel 592 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 6: uh their leadership in the building. And then once I'm 593 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 6: so excited for these players to get in the offseason 594 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 6: for them to feel it too, because I remember going 595 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 6: through that some of that and some of the previous stops. 596 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 6: When you have that type of staff in and coach 597 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 6: Sali came in, you can just feel his command, whether 598 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 6: it's in the staff meeting or it's going over these 599 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 6: positional profile tapes with us. There's a vision, there's a plan, 600 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 6: it's organized, it's detailed, and I just can't wait for 601 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 6: players to come in. 602 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: Mike Burgonzi, thank you so much for the time. 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All right, Well, 632 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,959 Speaker 2: that that wraps up things up from here in Indianapolis. 633 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: Big thank you to Robert Sala and Mike Borgonzi for 634 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: spending some time with us. 635 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: Tz We've got another OTP on the way. 636 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: I mean, we've been talking to every person that we 637 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 2: can just get to sit down and if we can 638 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: hold him still for a minute, we're asking them some 639 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 2: questions and I think we should share those maybe on 640 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: the next OTP. 641 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 4: I love that idea. 642 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 3: I really enjoyed talking to Coach Sala into Mike Borganzi, 643 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 3: and I am pumped about the direction the Titans are 644 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,719 Speaker 3: going In twenty twenty six and beyond. But Rhett Brian's 645 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 3: passion for the NFL Draft needs to be experienced by 646 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 3: the OT people. 647 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: Well, let's bring him on. Let's have him on next show, 648 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: next one, best one. We will have Rhet Brian. We'll 649 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: throw him will Bowling for some extra flavor. 650 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 4: You and me. 651 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 2: We'll talk some we'll talk some Titans football a little bit, 652 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 2: we'll talk about the draft, and we'll bring on some 653 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: of the people we've talked to, you know, Daniel Jeremiah. 654 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: We talked to Trevor Sikima, We've talked to Charles Davis, 655 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 2: We've talked to I mean, all kinds of people. So 656 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: let's let's get them on the show, all right. For 657 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 2: Taylor Zarzer, I'm Amy Wells, thanking you for. 658 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: Listening to this vision of you. 659 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 2: Lis