WEBVTT - Good Game Spotlight: Welcome to the Par-Tee 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:02.920 Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where everyone at 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:06.760 this party is taking the expected number of shots and 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:09.880 we're not talking about the handy alcohol impairment chart Leslie 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:14.320 Noe keeps in her wallet swings, not swigs. It's Friday, 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:17.000 May second, and on today's show, we're concluding our Iheartwomen's 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:19.440 Sports Week with an episode of Welcome to the Party 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:22.080 with Tisha Allan. Tisha joined us as a guest on 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:24.000 this show a few months ago and taught us so 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:26.799 much about the world of golf and the LPGA. But 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:28.640 for those of you who missed that episode, we asked 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.400 Tisha to introduce herself and her podcast for new listeners. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:32.560 Here's what she had to say. 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:36.120 What's going on, friends, I'm Tisha Allen, former professional golfer 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:38.920 now turned creator, speaker, and your host of Welcome to 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:42.080 the Party, and I mean par dash tea. This pod 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:44.519 is all about celebrating badass women in golf, and I'm 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.160 not just talking about LPGA pros, but I'm also talking 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:50.720 about entertainers, actresses, and game changers who just love the game, 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:53.760 from those grinding for their tour card to retired legends 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:56.560 and women working behind the scenes every guest touches golf 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:59.400 in a unique and powerful way. Whether you're a scratch 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:02.240 golfer or you don't know what par means, this party 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:02.960 is for you. 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:06.480 Today you'll hear Tisha's interview from March with former player 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:09.240 Chyanne Woods to get to prep. Here's a little preview 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:10.120 of what to expect. 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.200 This episode is one of my favorites. I got to 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.440 sit down with my friend Cheyenne Woods, Yes that Woods. 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.319 She's a former professional golfer, trailblazer, and now a proud mama. 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:22.959 She opens up about her journey through the LPGA, the 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:26.319 pressure of carrying a legendary last name, and how her grandfather, 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.040 Tiger's Dad, was the one who first put a club 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.280 in her hands. Now, as a mom of two and 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:33.720 hosts of her show Tea to Dream, she's using her 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:37.120 voice to uplift others in the game. This episode is powerful, 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.319 personal and will absolutely pull on your heart strings. I 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:42.240 know I had to hold back my tears, so that 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.560 being said, I can't wait for y'all to tap in 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:46.440 and join the party, all. 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.120 Right, Selice's that episode of Welcome to the Party with 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:50.640 Tisha Allen is coming. 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:51.200 Up right after this. 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:00.680 I feel like the very first time I I definitely 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:02.040 blacked out when I played. 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:03.520 I'll come Great because I thought you had blacked out. 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:08.360 So that's a totally normal emotion. Okay, but no, I 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:11.080 mean everyone's so different. I always try to focus on 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.960 like an my song that I could play in my head. 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.240 I talked right, Caddy, and just try to get through 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:19.720 the first few holes and just survive. 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:31.840 I am so pumped for today's guest for all the reasons. 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.359 She's an absolute boss on and off the golf course. 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:36.840 And I know you're gonna know this name. She's a 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.120 golf star and amazing mom and someone was just an 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:42.000 incredible story. She crushed it at Wake Forest, where she 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:45.560 was a two time All American and conference champion, and 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:47.399 not only that, she got inducted into. 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:48.359 Their Hall of Fame. 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:51.280 No big deal, right, And then from there she took 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:53.639 her talents to the pro stage, from the LED to 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:58.880 LPGA Tour, winning the twenty fourteen Vulvic RICB Ladies Masters 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:02.320 and making history only the sixth black woman to compete 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:05.200 on the LPGA Tour. In twenty twenty two, she stepped 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:08.240 away from competitive golf to welcome her first child and 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.320 just a year later, she became a mom of two. 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:12.840 Now she's bringing her passion for the game in a 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:16.240 whole new way, posting Tea to Dream on Golf Pass 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.920 where she's shining a light on golfers using their influence 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:23.000 to make a difference. Now, y'all, if this pod doesn't 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.400 pull on your heartstrings and make you become an even 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.560 bigger fan, I really don't know what more to tell you. 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:30.480 You just have to trust me and listen to the 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:34.680 very end. She's stunning, inspiring, and so much more. Without 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:39.960 further ado, please welcome Cheyenne Woods to the party. Cheyenne 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.080 Welcome to the party. We're so excited to have you 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.480 and I really appreciate you being here in the studio. Well, 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:46.000 we're gonna get started in a fun way. We like 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:48.160 to have a little four play in the beginning, so 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.600 we have a fun rapid fire questions. 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.839 Of this or that? Okay? Are you ready? I sure 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:56.600 hope so? Okay golf or baseball golf for sure? Okay? 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:58.840 North Carolina or Arizona? 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:00.680 Oh, Arizona? 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:02.800 Okay, love it? Which, by the way, North Carolina is 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:06.080 where she went to school. Yes, as place in the heart. Yes, Okay, 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:10.720 our ACV Royal Pines Resorts in Australia or Seven Canyons 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:11.320 in Arizona. 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:15.200 Oh, Royal Pines, Yes, okay, that's where she won. 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.120 That is where she won. We love it. Okay. What's harder? 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:21.719 Ten years playing professionally or being a mom of two 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:22.320 under two? 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.760 A mom of two under two challenge? 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:26.000 Oh? 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:29.239 Yes, yeah, golfers, you know, get a breeze. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:33.000 Oh yeah, okay, play Augusta National and pouring rain or 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.400 Saint Andrew's in forty mile per hour winds. 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:40.680 Oh I think the proper way to play St. Andrews 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:43.479 is in the wind. I would totally do that. Okay, 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:45.279 we're playing Augusta in the rain. 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:47.719 Would you rather your kids grow up to be a 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:53.840 professional golfer or MLB star MM or softball or softball? 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:57.240 Yeah, that's true with our little baby girl. Oh that's 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:01.880 really hard. I would say baseball. Really like the fact 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:03.640 that when I go watch I don't have to walk. 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.560 That is a good point, and I can be indoors 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:08.919 at times and sit down. 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:11.440 And baseball they don't play in the rain a lot, 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:13.679 So I'm. 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:15.680 Going to go with the baseball. Okay, baseball, it is 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:18.680 all right. Last rapid fire question caddy for Tiger at 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.159 the Masters or have him caddy for you at an 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.159 LPGA event the Masters. 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.240 Yeah, I know him down, although I would. 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.760 Be so nervous caddie and not want to screw up. 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:31.080 But that is just something you can't you can't miss. Yeah, 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:32.280 you can't miss that type of mop. 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:35.520 Yeah, that would be like the biggest crowd probably humanly possible, 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:37.560 to have you on the bag for him at the Masters, 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:39.840 that would be that would be fun. All right, So 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.960 let's actually get started and get into your career and 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:44.840 how you began golf. You actually started golf at a 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:46.880 very young age, like three years old. 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.200 Right, Yeah, I do, honestly, I don't even remember how 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:51.840 old I was, but golf was always around, right. 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.040 Neither of my parents played golf. I have two older brothers. 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:54.840 They never played. 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.360 But my grandpa, Earl Woods is the one who got 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.760 me into it, and at the time I got started, 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:04.280 was maybe just turning pro in his early nineties. I 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.520 was watching him. I was in a stroller when he 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:08.200 played as an amateur. 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:10.440 Out here. I'm totally blanking. 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:13.640 That's okay, that's again. What's the course they played the 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.320 Genesis side? Well, Riviera at Riviera, Yes, when you played 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.520 as an amateur. So I was there as a baby. 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:20.960 So it was just always around in my life. And 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.560 I started playing in my grandpa's garage with an old 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:27.200 cutdown club of Tigers. And I grew up in Arizona. 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:29.680 My grandpa and Tiger lived in California. We'd always come 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:33.680 out to visit summer vacations, and it just was something. 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.119 I think I was growing up at the right age 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:37.920 as a lot of us were now in our thirties, 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:41.920 where Tiger was everywhere on TV. He changed the game, 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:45.000 and as a five six seven year old watching him, 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.520 it was just the coolest thing ever. 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:50.200 And I just wanted to be like him. Yeah, and 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:51.680 so that's how I got into golf. 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:55.440 It just spurred this excitement about golf in me that 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:58.120 that's how I saw my life being of playing on tour. 0:06:58.440 --> 0:06:59.119 That's so wild. 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:02.080 So what age for you when you were like, yeah, 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:03.520 I want to do this, like I want to be 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:03.880 a pro. 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.839 Ever since I can remember, really, yeah, honestly, and again, 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.200 I think it's just seeing it and having that connection 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:10.720 to Tiger. 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.240 I was like, it just was the coolest thing. 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.880 And I think also growing up a girl in the sport, 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.280 and I had two older brothers. I always had the 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:21.400 mindset of what they can do I can do and 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:24.280 trying to keep up with them. And I loved surprising 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:26.440 people as a young girl and saying I play golf 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:27.520 and yeah, I'm good at it. 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.360 So I just always saw golf in my life. 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.360 In that way that that was the career I wanted, 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:34.960 that was the path I wanted to take. Luckily, my 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:37.960 grandfather also just instilled a lot of belief in myself. 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.160 I love from at a young age. I mean I 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:41.680 was probably nine or ten years old. 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:43.600 I remember sitting in his kitchen and he's making me 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:47.280 breakfast and he told me like that he could see me. 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.240 Being on tour, that he believed in me. 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:53.360 And one of my favorite stories about my grandpa is 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:55.520 he used to work for IMG and he was a 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.680 scout to scout like junior golfers and potential, you know, 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:02.520 up and coming players. And when I was sitting in 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:05.280 his kitchen on that day, he told me that when 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.480 I was like four or five years old, he wrote 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:11.720 an official report about me and he submitted it officially 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:12.440 into IMG. 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:14.240 And I was like, wow, what did you write? 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:15.880 And he goes I'm not going to tell you what 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.520 I wrote, but one day when you turn pro, IMG 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:21.320 will come and recruit you and they'll bring the letter 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:24.000 and you can read it then. So when I graduated 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.440 from Wake Forest, my grandfather had passed while I was 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.280 in high school, so this was a couple of years 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:31.800 after and I graduated, I wanted to turn pro. 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.920 IMG came and they brought the letter and I got 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:35.920 to read it for the first time. 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:40.520 I literally goose And it was literally nineteen ninety three, 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:42.760 I think, so I was three or four years old. Wow, 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.080 And he wrote what he saw in me. He wrote 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.079 that he could see me play on tour, the skills 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:50.280 that he could see in me, And those are the 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:54.319 types of things that I tell people make a difference 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.679 when you have someone in your corner that believes in 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.760 you and then you start to believe it too. That 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:02.200 is what always propelled me in my career, in my 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.320 life with golf, Like my grandpa could see it when 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:06.000 I was three or four years old, like I want 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:07.160 to do it for him. I want to do it 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.760 because I believe it too. And so that was a 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:13.480 huge part of my golf life of just having him 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:17.520 as like that foundation in that rock of like believing 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:18.600 in me and what I. 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:19.720 Can do in the game of golf. 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:24.120 So what was your reaction in opening that letter, Like, 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.480 did you even remember it in that moment that he 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.760 had given you that? Yeah, it was always in the 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.080 back of my mind. I always remember that letter. I 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:31.959 always thought. 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:33.480 What did he write? What did he think? 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:35.520 And so when they did bring it, it was like 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:36.520 a full circle moment. 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:38.680 It felt unreal, honestly to see. 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.160 Literally tear up right now thinking about it. 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:42.080 I can't even imagine. 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.040 And it's in his handwriting, you know, it's like this 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:47.640 beautiful curse of and just to read his words, especially 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.000 after he had passed. And yeah, he was the one 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.480 who got me started. He was the one who taught 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.600 me what I knew about golf. So he was the 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:57.959 biggest figure in my life when it came to golf 0:09:58.000 --> 0:09:59.600 and what I wanted to do in the sport. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:01.720 I was able to sit there and see it. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.120 It was just like, this is what I've been waiting 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:06.080 for and it just meant so much. So I have 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:09.280 it framed in our house and it's just one of 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.000 those really special moments that I will never forget. 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:14.640 That's so beautiful. You're gonna have to send me a 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.760 picture you've framed at your house. Okay, so you talked 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.520 a little bit about Wake Forest. You just got inducted 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:22.319 into the Hall of Fame. Congratulation. 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:22.720 Thanks you. 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:24.439 What does that honor mean to you? 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:28.439 It means a lot, and it feels surreal because Wake 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:32.240 Forest has such a deep, deep history in every sport. 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:34.480 I mean it's a small school, but they have such 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.319 depth and the athletes that they've produced while they be. 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:38.679 Basketball, golf, soccer. 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.520 So now to be among the names of the Hall 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.400 of Fame inductees is just an honor. Growing up on 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.120 the West Coast, I didn't know a lot about Wake 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.440 Forest other than like Tim Duncan and Chris Paul and 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:50.520 of course mister Palmer. 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:53.800 To now be etched in history is really special. 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:57.200 And during my speech at the induction, I spoke about 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:00.600 how I wasn't always the best golf and I really 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.000 had to work my way up, and so to be 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:05.040 able to work my way through Wake improve my game, 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:06.880 work my way through the team and up in the 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.080 rankings really meant a lot to me. 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.120 To be able to accomplish that. What made you commit 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:12.920 to that school? 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.000 Honestly, growing up in Arizona. 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:18.640 I just was sick and tired of being there, like 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:19.520 it is boring. 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.320 So I was like, I want to just try somewhere new. 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:24.320 In North Carolina. It was very new. It was a 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:24.959 culture shock. 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:26.760 But I always tell people it was the best thing 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.280 that ever happened to me, especially golf wise. 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:30.760 I was forced. 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.760 To learn how to live on my own away from 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:36.000 my family, play in weather that is not just perfect 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.280 at all times, and play different. 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.520 Golf courses too, which was such a test. 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:42.040 So I always say it was the best thing for 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:43.960 my career and just for me, kind of like growing 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.600 up and learning again on that path of trying to 0:11:46.640 --> 0:12:00.439 become professional. 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.640 Clearly, you know, you have a really big name in 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:14.840 your family what's the last name? And a lot of 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:18.600 attention was on you throughout your career, college golf, professional golf. 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.640 What was that like for you building a name for yourself? 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.360 It was difficult, you know. 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:29.040 Growing up I loved watching Tiger play, and he was 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:32.040 the biggest inspiration for me to become professional golfer or 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:33.200 even a play golf in general. 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:36.720 So I somewhat I am a fan and I love 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:37.559 watching him play. 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.600 But then coming up and being a woods and having 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.560 the extra attention or the expectations whatever that might be 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.719 was difficult. I mean, even to this day, I am 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.600 still referred to as his niece, which is totally fine 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.839 because I get it. But when you are young and 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.640 trying to not only prove yourself to the world, but 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.720 prove yourself to yourself, yes, it can be difficult when 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:03.440 you're constantly reminded of the other person rather than yourself 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:05.680 and what you've accomplished. So I really had to learn 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:11.200 how to have that self love, that self worth of I. 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:13.240 Worked to get here. I deserve to be here. 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.719 Despite what my name is, and I think it made 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:17.880 me a stronger person and a stronger player of just 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:20.880 believing and who I am. But it definitely was difficult, 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:22.720 and I had to just embrace it because it's not 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:23.679 something that was ever going. 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.880 To leave right absolutely, like I was thinking about actually 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:30.199 on the drive here, and I just feel very empathetic 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:34.000 to what that feeling and pressure could be like to 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.800 have someone in your life that's essentially setting the bar 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.360 right and the pressures that you could face. And I 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:42.160 feel like you've done it with so much grace, and 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.880 I think from the outside looking in I don't think 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.600 you could really tell that it may have been difficult 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:49.200 or that you know, it was a lot of pressure. 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.079 So I think you did a phenomenal job, like making 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:51.959 a name for yourself. 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.079 You know, thank you. I appreciate that. I mean, I 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:55.400 try to do what I could. 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:57.880 I mean, I love golf for my own reasons, and 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.560 I never wanted to be the next Tiger Woods, sure, 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.480 but you know, I just grew up wanting to see 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:06.320 how far I can take it, and I love that challenge. 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:10.440 And to at least have the representation of Woods on 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.400 the women's side means a lot to me. And to 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.800 be a woman of color in golf and kind of 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:17.479 have that representation again. 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.560 Is just really powerful. So I try to do what 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:20.480 I could to give back. 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.120 To the game, and you know, the Woods name definitely 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:25.800 helps elevate whatever I do, which I think is definitely 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:26.400 a privilege. 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.800 Absolutely, has Tiger given you any advice about your career 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:31.880 and of sell you mind sharing, I would. 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:33.840 Say the biggest thing is he always has just said 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:37.320 to have fun. And I think the biggest advice I've 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:40.240 ever had from him is just me watching what he 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.760 does fair and whether it be on TV or the 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:45.760 few times I've been able to kind of watch him 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.360 practice in person, I've always said he's the hardest working 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.400 person I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, in every aspect, 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:55.520 and he's so intelligent, he's so hard working, he's just 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:58.640 so intense that that is definitely what I've learned most 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.680 from him is just by observing seeing where he came 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:04.280 from and how far he's taken it, what he's gone through. 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:06.440 It's just really really inspirational. 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:09.600 Yeah. Yeah, So you went on to play professionally, like 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.800 basically a decade right playing pro LED, which is a 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:17.680 Ladies's European Tour LPGA. What is your favorite memory of 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:18.520 playing on tour? 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.320 My favorite memories are definitely playing on European Tour. 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:23.280 Really Okay, why is that? 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.120 It just was such a new experience for me. 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:29.160 Yeah, and it wasn't anything I had expected myself to do, 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.120 And I think that's what makes it really special too. 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:33.480 You know, I graduated from WIG and you know, in 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:35.880 our minds we always think, Okay, I'm gonna go boom 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:36.960 boom boom, this is how I. 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:37.480 Get on tour. 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:39.800 Sure, So I went to Q school, didn't make it through. 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.240 I didn't even get Epson Tour status. I didn't make 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:43.480 the cut at first stage. 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:47.400 Yeah, so I was confused, like where do I go 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:47.840 from here? 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.760 And so my agent suggested, you know, European Tour is 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:55.280 an option, and the thought of going to Morocco and 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:59.800 for the qualifiers and potentially playing in Europe, and you know, 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:02.560 I it was twenty one, fresh out of college. I 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:04.680 had never really traveled like that before. All of this 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.280 was so new to me, so you know, it was 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.360 a huge leap. It felt like to go over there 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:12.400 and just kind of get this experience of the unknown. 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.479 But it was so fun. The girls there were amazing. 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:18.960 Every country you go to you learn so much about 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:22.160 the culture. Every course is so different. It was the 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:25.280 best thing for my professional career. I then played. 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.400 I always had status, but I played their full. 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.360 Time for like I don't know, two or three years, 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:31.000 and then I came back and I was able to 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:32.400 earn LPGA Tour status. 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.440 But it was just the best learning experience. 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:40.920 So, talking about professional golf, what's something that you wish 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:44.880 that maybe like the audience or outside voices understood more about, 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.080 especially women's professional golf. 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:50.280 There's a lot and I think the biggest thing that 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.040 I've always tried to advocate for women's golf is obviously 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.880 how talented we are. Yeah, and you hear it all 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:59.440 the time, but you really don't. I feel like you 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.000 don't understan it till you see it, whether it be 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:06.120 the talent or how personal the players are, or how 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:09.160 close you can get to actually enjoying the golf while 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:10.639 you're out watching an LPGA event. 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:12.720 It's such a different. 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.359 Experience than going to maybe a PGA Tour event or 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:17.960 a men's event. So I always try to tell people 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:21.320 how friendly the women's game is and how welcoming it is. 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:23.719 I always try to make it a point when I 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.800 was playing to interact with fans or meet with the 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.320 juniors and interact with them, because I do remember being 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:31.679 the girl out there behind the ropes and trying to 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.120 get an autograph or getting that golf ball, and it's 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.480 the best feeling in the world. But I feel like 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:38.919 in the women's game, you definitely get that experience a 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:39.480 lot more. 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:41.880 And then obviously the. 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:45.199 Talent is just amazing, and you see these girls make 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.720 it look so easy. My husband's played in a couple 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.480 LPGA pro ams and he still can't believe how good 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:52.320