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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where everyone at

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Speaker 1: this party is taking the expected number of shots and

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Speaker 1: May second, and on today's show, we're concluding our Iheartwomen's

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Speaker 1: Sports Week with an episode of Welcome to the Party

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Speaker 1: with Tisha Allan. Tisha joined us as a guest on

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Speaker 1: this show a few months ago and taught us so

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Speaker 1: much about the world of golf and the LPGA. But

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Speaker 1: for those of you who missed that episode, we asked

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Speaker 3: What's going on, friends, I'm Tisha Allen, former professional golfer

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Speaker 3: now turned creator, speaker, and your host of Welcome to

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Speaker 3: the Party, and I mean par dash tea. This pod

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Speaker 3: is all about celebrating badass women in golf, and I'm

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Speaker 3: not just talking about LPGA pros, but I'm also talking

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Speaker 3: from those grinding for their tour card to retired legends

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Speaker 3: and women working behind the scenes every guest touches golf

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Speaker 3: in a unique and powerful way. Whether you're a scratch

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Speaker 1: Today you'll hear Tisha's interview from March with former player

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Speaker 3: This episode is one of my favorites. I got to

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Speaker 3: sit down with my friend Cheyenne Woods, Yes that Woods.

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Speaker 3: She's a former professional golfer, trailblazer, and now a proud mama.

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Speaker 3: She opens up about her journey through the LPGA, the

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Speaker 3: hosts of her show Tea to Dream, she's using her

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Speaker 1: Right, Selice's that episode of Welcome to the Party with

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Speaker 1: Tisha Allen is coming.

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Speaker 2: Up right after this.

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Speaker 4: I feel like the very first time I I definitely

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Speaker 3: No big deal, right, And then from there she took

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Speaker 4: There's been so many changes in the LPGA, and it's

445
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Speaker 4: been exciting for me the last couple of years. I've

446
00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,040
Speaker 4: been on the board for LPGA Foundation, which is behind

447
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,919
Speaker 4: the scenes of their charities and girls programs.

448
00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,520
Speaker 2: But it's definitely give me an inside.

449
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,520
Speaker 4: Look of what the LPGA is doing and how awesome

450
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,919
Speaker 4: you know they're being able to provide all these programs

451
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 4: for girls and amateurs. So I absolutely love that. I

452
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 4: grew up in the LPGA Girls Golf Program.

453
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 2: I started when I was like five or six years old.

454
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Speaker 2: I was the very first original.

455
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 4: Sandy Leboa started it in Scottsdale, Arizona, and my coach

456
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,160
Speaker 4: was her husband. So I got started in that program

457
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 4: and to be able to see it grow into what

458
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 4: it is today, I think the LPGA has done so

459
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 4: much in giving back to the game and also the communities.

460
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Speaker 4: Their reach is not just within the US, but also

461
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 4: so global, and I think that's been so cool to see.

462
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,640
Speaker 4: And you're seeing a lot of Girls Golf alumni now

463
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,120
Speaker 4: on tour, which I think goes to show how they

464
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 4: are able to give back to the game and also

465
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 4: support them throughout their careers.

466
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Speaker 2: So I think the LPGA is doing such a good

467
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Speaker 2: job of that.

468
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 4: Obviously, playing on tour has gotten so much better in

469
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 4: terms of money, yeah, yeah, and supports growing. We love

470
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 4: golf courses that we play are just amazing. So I

471
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,879
Speaker 4: think that's been really great in terms of what they

472
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:51,679
Speaker 4: can do better.

473
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Speaker 2: Jeez, that's a tough question.

474
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean every organization can use him improvement, right,

475
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 3: Like look at the PGA tour.

476
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Speaker 2: What's happening you know?

477
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I love if the LPG

478
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 4: is elevating their players more. I think that's all the

479
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 4: stories issue, more stories. There's so many great personalities. I

480
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 4: know they've invested in trying to elevate their players individually

481
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 4: in showcasing those stories, and I think that's been really great,

482
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 4: just to bring more eyes on individual players like you

483
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 4: see Charlie.

484
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 2: Hole out there, you see Lydia, you see.

485
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 4: All these personalities that are just so unique and so

486
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 4: special that a lot of the men are able to

487
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 4: showcase a bit more, like even with the Netflix show,

488
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 4: like hellay our household names, and it makes a big

489
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 4: difference when it comes to them trying to sell the

490
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 4: tour or sell sponsorships to have that connection with fans

491
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Speaker 4: and players.

492
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Speaker 2: So I think if they can continue to do that more,

493
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Speaker 2: it would definitely help.

494
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Speaker 3: I love that. I completely agree. So as we know

495
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Speaker 3: right now, there is at this moment. Maybe when the

496
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Speaker 3: pod comes out, will know there is no commissioner at

497
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Speaker 3: this moment. If you were the commissioner, what is something

498
00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,360
Speaker 3: that you would instill no rules, no restrictions on moneytach

499
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 3: what is something that you would instill right now to

500
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 3: help continue to support the girls.

501
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm thinking any way to help make.

502
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 4: The travel easier for the girls, whether that's such a

503
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 4: good point, something they're able to provide wellness wise, or

504
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 4: even hotel sponsorship. That's really hard for players, whether you're

505
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 4: at the top or you're just trying to keep your

506
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 4: car like it gets expensive. And I always say the

507
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 4: lifestyle of playing on tour is one of the most

508
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 4: difficult things of traveling.

509
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 2: Day in and day out, all around.

510
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Speaker 4: Too, all years, cross timelines and timelines, yeah, time zone,

511
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 4: cross time zones, and just globally. So if there was

512
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Speaker 4: something that the tour could do in order to support

513
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 4: them a little bit better travel wise, I think that

514
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 4: would be really good.

515
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that. When you make it onto

516
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 3: the PGA tour, new players are essentially loaned nearly half

517
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 3: a million dollars to go and support themselves, and the

518
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,959
Speaker 3: girls are given zero. And I just can't. I mean,

519
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 3: but there's so many events now where like Miszoo Ho

520
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 3: and like even the Asia Swing where like everything is

521
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 3: covered and like the girls are like royalty. So we

522
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 3: just need to get all the events to be like yeah, right.

523
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 4: And even the stipends that they've been able to provide

524
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 4: a few misses, they've been able to provide stipends because

525
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 4: I mean when people think of professional golf and they

526
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,479
Speaker 4: see the PGA Tour, they see the private jets and

527
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 4: all these glamorous life things in the front, it's assumed

528
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 4: that the women you know, have that as well, and

529
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 4: it's just not the case. And so it's definitely a

530
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 4: reality check, I think even as a player to come

531
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 4: in and you're like, wait, I have to pay for

532
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,239
Speaker 4: this whole list of things, and how do I get

533
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 4: a sponsor? You know, sponsorships are hard to come by

534
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 4: as well, so definitely a little bit more difficult on

535
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 4: the women's side.

536
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Speaker 3: So can you break that down. Let's say take us

537
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Speaker 3: back to when you were playing one week, what are

538
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 3: expenses like, what are you covering for yourself and your team?

539
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: I mean you you.

540
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 4: Basically cover everything so flight you don't have to pay

541
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 4: for your caddy swipe, but you have to pay for

542
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 4: your caddies weekly fee in addition to whatever percentage if

543
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 4: you make the cut. When I was playing, I think

544
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 4: caddy was anywhere between twelve hundred.

545
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 2: And fifteen hundred or one week for one week.

546
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 4: Okay, So hotel unless you do a host family, which

547
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 4: a lot of players do, so you can kind of

548
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 4: cut that expense.

549
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: Food, rental car. They do sometimes have like courtesy cars

550
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 2: that you.

551
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 4: Could use, but it's not as flexible, I guess, right.

552
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 4: So it definitely maybe about five grand. I usually budgeted

553
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 4: for per week's entry feet do we say entry feet? Oh?

554
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: And entry feeth?

555
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had to pay for the tournaments. Two guys

556
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 3: don't forget, so.

557
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: It definitely adds up.

558
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 4: And you're thinking, you're playing twenty five thirty events, right,

559
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 4: it gets expensive.

560
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 3: Right, right? So we had to make more than just

561
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 3: the cut to survive, right, Yes?

562
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Speaker 5: Crazy?

563
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 2: Okay?

564
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 3: So I wanted to transition into motherhood too, beautiful children,

565
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 3: and so what what was that transition like for me?

566
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 3: Taking kind of like a step aside from professional golf

567
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 3: and becoming a mother.

568
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 4: It was very different. I played golf my whole life,

569
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 4: and I always wanted to be a mom. I always

570
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,719
Speaker 4: knew I wanted to be a mom, and we had

571
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 4: our son in twenty twenty two. I competed up until

572
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 4: I think I was like five months pregnant, but nobody

573
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 4: knew I was pregnant at the time, and then I

574
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 4: haven't competed since we had our son. And I always

575
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 4: knew I didn't want to play professional golf and be

576
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Speaker 4: a mom. I didn't want to travel and have my

577
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 4: kids on the road. And at the time when we

578
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 4: had our son, my husband was still playing baseball, Okay,

579
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 4: so we were trying to be with him as much

580
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 4: as we could and travel as well, So it was

581
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 4: hard to think about doing golf and that at the

582
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 4: same time with having a family. But definitely taking a

583
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 4: step aside from professional golf was refreshing.

584
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 3: Okay, I like it.

585
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 4: I think I was ready, yeah, And it just was

586
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 4: nice to see a different side of life, right.

587
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: I think as a professional golfer you get so just self.

588
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 4: You're always just focused on self, right, And it was

589
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 4: I used to have something to take my focus off

590
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 4: of just me, me, me and think about this beautiful

591
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 4: baby and my husband and our family.

592
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 2: So it was definitely a breath of fresh air.

593
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 3: Now, speaking of your daughter, how is your baby girl

594
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 3: doing good? She's good?

595
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: My mind sharing so well, yea.

596
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,479
Speaker 4: So Maya has had like not the toughest journey, but

597
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 4: it's been difficult and it has not been anything that

598
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 4: we ever expected and nothing that I ever heard people

599
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 4: talking about.

600
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Speaker 3: I didn't either until I saw your poems.

601
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: And so if people, you know, want more information.

602
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 4: Our daughter was born like full term, totally fine, but

603
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 4: she had a lot of feeding difficulties. She had really

604
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 4: bad acid reflux where she was throwing up NonStop, and

605
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 4: she wouldn't take a bottle, pacifier or nothing, and she

606
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 4: wouldn't have long enough feats, and so she wasn't gaining weight.

607
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 4: So she was submitted admitted to the hospital's failure to thrive,

608
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 4: which was the absolute worst feeling ever as a mom,

609
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 4: because you feel like you failed as well.

610
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 2: And I still didn't know what was happening.

611
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 4: She's throwing up, she's not gaining weight, and I literally

612
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 4: can't do anything. So we've did all the tests possible,

613
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 4: all of the things, and she ended up being a

614
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 4: tube fed baby. She still is tube fed through a gtube,

615
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 4: but she's not throwing up.

616
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 2: Anymore, which is did great good.

617
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 4: And she also had like a breathing condition she had

618
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 4: to have a surgery on, which was at the end

619
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 4: of the day not allowing her to feed, which we

620
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 4: didn't know.

621
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 2: But she's doing better, which is great.

622
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 4: It's honestly such a long story, so I don't know

623
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 4: how to cut it down, but it's just been such

624
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 4: a journey of just appreciation and gratitude for all of

625
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 4: the little things, because you hear about women having babies

626
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 4: and babies growing up all the time, but there are

627
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 4: so many things that can go wrong, or so many

628
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 4: health conditions that could happen, and I'm just so grateful

629
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 4: that although she's still gtube fed, she is healthy and

630
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 4: she is happy and thriving, and it's just the best

631
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 4: feeling in the world because you appreciate all of the

632
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 4: little moments and all the little things right after going

633
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 4: through difficult times.

634
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 3: Well, I'm so happy that she is growing stronger every

635
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 3: single day. I'm sure like any stressful moment you had

636
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 3: in your professional golf career is like f that, like

637
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 3: this is my everything, Like your child now is your life?

638
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: Right?

639
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

640
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 2: And again it just gives you perspective.

641
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 4: I mean when we were going through that with mya

642
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 4: it was probably like eight months of it where wow,

643
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 4: literally every day we couldn't leave the house because she

644
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 4: would throw up fifteen to twenty times a day.

645
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: I couldn't take her anywhere.

646
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 4: And it just gives you perspective of just what is important.

647
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 4: And I think again just having kids in general, of

648
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 4: being able to step back and look at the big

649
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 4: picture of what is important in life. And I do

650
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 4: love golf and I love to compete, right, but in

651
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 4: this stage of my life, it's just so nice to

652
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 4: be able to have these moments with my kids and

653
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 4: to raise them and to be there for all the

654
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 4: little moments and for when they need me.

655
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Speaker 3: So you mentioned how you love competing. Is there any

656
00:28:55,200 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: shot that we will see Syanne Woods compete again, qualify anything?

657
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 5: Yeah?

658
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,959
Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah, I think so.

659
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I missed the competition and it's so

660
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 4: hard to replicate.

661
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: I love competing.

662
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 4: I've always been a competitive person in everything that I do,

663
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 4: and I want to be able to have my kids

664
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 4: see me play one day.

665
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: So I would say maybe in the next couple of

666
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: years i'd play.

667
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 4: I would love to qualify for the US open again

668
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 4: and play in that. And have you know our kids

669
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 4: following us along. Maybe my husband can, Caddie, I'll put

670
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 4: them to work.

671
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: I love that. Okay, speaking of husband, So Chyanne's husband

672
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 3: is Aaron Hicks, and he is a professional baseball player.

673
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: And I actually played golf with him, oh pre pandemic

674
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 3: and the media day era, and I was actually so

675
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 3: surprised at how good at golf he was, especially for

676
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 3: a baseball player, because typically baseball player just like slice

677
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: the shit out of it, and he was like striping it.

678
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: And I wanted to hear how you two met. I

679
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: know it was kind of something similar to what we're

680
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 3: doing now, but I'm gonna let you tell the story.

681
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, So Erin and I have been married for three

682
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 4: years now, and we met during the pandemic or just

683
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 4: before the pandemic. I used to have a podcast with

684
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 4: Doug Smith called Bertie's not Bs, and we were record

685
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 4: in Phoenix, Arizona, and Aaron and Doug were friends, and

686
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 4: so Doug invited him on the podcast and we did

687
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 4: just a little episode like just getting to know Aaron

688
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 4: and his relationship with golf, and so it was awesome

689
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 4: just to get to know him a little bit, and

690
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 4: that was my first time meeting him. During the pandemic,

691
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 4: both of our seasons got shut down, so I was,

692
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 4: I think in Florida. I was at the Players actually

693
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 4: at the time, and so during the pandemic when we

694
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 4: were both home, we just started playing golf together and

695
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 4: that's kind of how it just sparked this friendship.

696
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 2: And then we got to know each other more. It

697
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 2: was like, he's kind of cool.

698
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like him, and so that's kind of where

699
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 4: it all started.

700
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: I love that. So it wasn't like instance sparks in

701
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: the podcast room. It was more just like a slow

702
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 3: burn hang out, play a lot of golf together, and

703
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: then you're like, okay.

704
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's funny.

705
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

706
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 4: And it's funny because I always said I would never

707
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 4: date a golfer, and technically he's not a golfer, right,

708
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 4: but he plays a lot of golf, right, And I

709
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 4: actually love it because we can appreciate the same love

710
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 4: of golf and we can enjoy it with our.

711
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: Families now too.

712
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 4: And I think that the pandemic really gave us a

713
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 4: lot of quality time that we never would have had otherwise,

714
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 4: especially him being a baseball player, I was playing golf

715
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 4: full time. Our worlds were literally like that, just like

716
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: colliding and just would never have cross paths. So I'm

717
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 4: grateful for, you know, the time that we were able

718
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 4: to have. And then, like you said, slow burn of

719
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 4: just yeah, you know, we fell in love and basically

720
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 4: through the game of golf.

721
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: Right, So in this case, it was actually a turn

722
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 3: on that he was that he plays golf.

723
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: Usually, I feel like for golfers, it's like no turn off.

724
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: Please don't please, don't love golf too much, don't want

725
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: to be on the course. So have you taught him

726
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: much and like kind of helped him out with this game.

727
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 3: I'm trying to work on a short game, okay. Yeah,

728
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: he's definitely a.

729
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 4: Power player, and he loves his sixty degree whch yeah,

730
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 4: which a lot of people do. And I'm trying to

731
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 4: just teach him about bump and run, yeah, and different

732
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 4: shots that he can hit, a different clubs that he

733
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 4: has other than his low budge.

734
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

735
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: So definitely trying to balance out his game a little bit.

736
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: Okay, I love that now your little boy he plays

737
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 3: both baseball and golf. Yeah, if you could choose which,

738
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: We're not going to force our kids, you know, into anything,

739
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: but if you could control it, you so you would

740
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: want him to play baseball.

741
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 4: I think baseball, Aaron says, golf, So we'll kind of

742
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 4: see what happens there. But Cameron will be three next month,

743
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 4: so he is just full toddler boy, loving absolutely every

744
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 4: sport possible, but definitely attached to a club and a

745
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 4: bat at all times.

746
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: It's so cute.

747
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 4: And the thing that frustrates me most is that now

748
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 4: that I'm post LPGA Tour career, right, he mainly sees

749
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 4: his dad playing golf and he thinks Dad is the

750
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 4: golfer and I think related is dad. So that's why

751
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 4: I'm thinking I need to get back out and show him.

752
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: Who the real golfer is in the house.

753
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 3: Do you play much anymore?

754
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: Not as much as I want to.

755
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 4: Okay, No, I'm finally starting to get back out and

756
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 4: hit balls and like playing a couple of things here

757
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 4: and there.

758
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: But I'm trying to get back out more.

759
00:32:59,680 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: So.

760
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 3: One thing that I do love about, like everything that

761
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 3: I've seen you share, is that you're huge about making

762
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 3: golf more accessible and so how do you feel like

763
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 3: golf is heading right now? Do you feel like we're

764
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 3: heading in the right direction, making.

765
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 4: More Absolutely, Yeah, it's been so exciting to see how

766
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 4: far golf has come, honestly, just since the pandemic.

767
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: In the last five years.

768
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 4: Sure, I remember when I was playing, that was always

769
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 4: something I advocated, was access to golf, getting everybody out there,

770
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 4: showing them that golf is for them.

771
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: You don't have to be a country club, button up player.

772
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 4: Sure, places like Top Golf have really opened up the

773
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 4: world to what golf can be and that it can

774
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 4: be fun, it can be for everybody.

775
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: So I love where golf is headed.

776
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 4: And even just the influencer world of making golf relatable

777
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 4: and YouTube golf, I think is so great for the game.

778
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: What is it the good good guys.

779
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, when I saw them come out to Scottsdale and

780
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 4: all the people that came out to the event, and

781
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 4: they're not saying first sour fans, you know, these are

782
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 4: just like your everyday people, And I think that's great

783
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 4: for the game of golf. So it's exciting, and I

784
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 4: am honestly mind blown with how far art it's coming,

785
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 4: like five years, but I think it's great.

786
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: For the game.

787
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely. What do you think golf maybe needs more of

788
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 3: to continue that trajectory.

789
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 4: I think, just continued support of that everyday person who

790
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 4: wants to get into golf. For sure, you know, it's

791
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 4: nice to have the facilities like top Golf or like

792
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 4: the YouTube people that you can watch. But I think

793
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 4: still maybe with instruction wise of making golf more accessible

794
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 4: or a little bit more affordable is a big thing,

795
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 4: because it's one thing to go out and like, okay,

796
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: get a club and hit some balls, but it takes

797
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 4: a little bit of teaching to really understand and know

798
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 4: how to swing the club. So maybe just a little

799
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 4: bit more support in programs to kind of get this

800
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 4: new fan base able to learn how to play golf.

801
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 3: We just need a teaching course from Cheyenne Woods, you know,

802
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: or we do or we could do it together.

803
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, one or the other.

804
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: Go.

805
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 3: So switching gears a little bit because this was really

806
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 3: big news to the golf world a few weeks ago.

807
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: We understand that you lost your grandmother, Tilda Woods, and

808
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 3: I just wanted to do a check in, how's the family,

809
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 3: how are you?

810
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really sad to see that, honestly sudden.

811
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we had just seen her, you know, at

812
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 4: TGL and just beaming with pride, which I think, honestly

813
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 4: looking back, is the best thing to be able to

814
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 4: have her at those moments for Tiger to support. You know,

815
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 4: I didn't get to spend as much time with Tita

816
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 4: as I did with my grandfather, but she was just

817
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 4: so special and she This probably sounds silly, but she's

818
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 4: why I loved Tigh.

819
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: Food, Oh my god.

820
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 4: But of course obsessed with Tai food because I remember

821
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 4: growing up, you know.

822
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: She would cook ty food or yea. She would show

823
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: us how to cook Tay food.

824
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 4: So it definitely is so sad, but I'm so grateful

825
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 4: that she was able to have those special moments with

826
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 4: Tiger and Charlie and watch them at TGL and she

827
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 4: definitely won't be missed.

828
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 3: You know, I actually met her when I was I

829
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 3: think like twelve years old. It was for a TGR

830
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 3: Foundation event and I somehow got into it through like

831
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 3: SEPGA or one of those millions of golf or gazations.

832
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 3: And funny enough, I didn't realize I was sitting next

833
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 3: to your grandmother and I was just waiting for my

834
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: mom at the restroom and we were in the facility

835
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: and she was like eating like it looked like country

836
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 3: club snacks. And she looks at me and she just

837
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 3: goes and she like gestures like do I want it?

838
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: And I'm like okay, and I grabbed a pretzel. Do

839
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 3: you play golf?

840
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: I said yes?

841
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 3: And she said are you here for the clinic? I

842
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 3: said yes, and she goes practice hard, Oh I will yeah,

843
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 3: And I thought it was like yes, And then my

844
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 3: dad was like, do you know who that was? I

845
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: was like, oh my gosh, I mean yeah, no big deal.

846
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 3: But no, I love that story and we love that

847
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 3: you love Thai food of course. Yeah, yes, okay, switching

848
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: gears back to like a little more of a lighter not.

849
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 3: I saw that you recently launched a show on golf Pass,

850
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 3: Tita Dreams. Can you tell everybody about it?

851
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 4: It's really exciting, honestly, So, Tita Dream is on golf

852
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 4: Pass Dreaming right now.

853
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 2: We have two episodes out.

854
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 4: You love it, and the basis of the show is

855
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 4: showcasing professional golfers who are associated with found and the

856
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 4: work that they do to give back to their charity

857
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 4: and to the community. We all know golf is so philanthropic,

858
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 4: but we don't always get to see behind the scenes

859
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 4: of how these professional golfers.

860
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: Are using their platforms to give back.

861
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 4: When I was playing, it was always a big part

862
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 4: of my traveling and my career of trying to give

863
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 4: back to the communities or connect with the local girls.

864
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 4: So to be able to see what these golfers are,

865
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 4: you know, obviously not only just playing at the highest

866
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 4: level possible, but then giving so much back to their

867
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 4: communities and giving back to their foundations. So we've focused

868
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 4: on Ryan Palmer and not a big a so far

869
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 4: this year, and it's just been really special to be

870
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 4: a part of and see how golf cannot only change

871
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 4: obviously the golfers' lives and they're playing and doing these

872
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 4: glamorous things, but changing the lives of kids and people

873
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 4: within their communities. So it's on golf Fast now if

874
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 4: people want to check it out. I think the episode

875
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 4: is free to stream right now if you want to see.

876
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: And we're going to film a bit more this season

877
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: as well.

878
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 3: Okay, we will be on the lookout for sure. We'll

879
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 3: just drop the link. You guys, don't worry. So what's

880
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: next for Cheyenne Woods in general? I know that I

881
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 3: feel like you do a lot more media now and

882
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 3: traveling to tournaments and whatnot.

883
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 4: You have the next stop, Yeah, definitely more filming with

884
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 4: Golf Bass for sure, and focusing on that show and

885
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 4: then maybe a couple of other fun things in the

886
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 4: golf world. Talking a little bit about podcast as well.

887
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 2: So I love it. It could be potentially coming up soon.

888
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 3: Would you be bringing it back or would you just

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00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 3: be like starting a brand starting new?

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00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: Not BS. Was so fun to do with you and

892
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: we learned so much, but that is rip.

893
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, Doug and I are so really close, actually,

894
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 4: that's what he was telling me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. If you guys don't know who Doug is,

896
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 3: he is now like a commentator on Golf Channel. I

897
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: was actually just with him a few days ago and

898
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 3: he was commentating me playing, which was kind of weird

899
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 3: and kind of weld, and he was always telling me,

900
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 3: he's like, you should get shy on the pod. I'm like, bro,

901
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: help me out, dude. And so I love that you

902
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 3: guys are close.

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00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's funny because he lives like twenty minutes

904
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 4: from us and his son is about the same age

905
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 4: as ours, so perfect sons are best friends. And I

906
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 4: think the next couple of years are going to be

907
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 4: like golf rivals slash best friends.

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00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,919
Speaker 2: So stay tuned. We love a good story. We love

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00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: it all right.

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00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: So we are winding down now, but we have to

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00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: end with a fun little game.

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00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: All right.

913
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 3: Do you know the game f kill Mary?

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00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: Okay, it's that's a little dramatic, but.

916
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 5: Words.

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00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's called travel cut like miss the Cut Mary. Okay, okay,

918
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 3: those are your three options. These are amongst your LPGA peers. Yes, yes, okay,

919
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: are you ready?

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00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: I think so?

921
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Lexi Thompson, Danielle Kang, Brooke Henderson.

922
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: My gosh, wait, this is the kind of game that

923
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: it is no hard feelings.

924
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm gonna say travel Danielle Kang. Okay, she

925
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 4: is so fun and I always loved playing with her.

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Speaker 2: You have Hanbrook.

927
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna cut Lexi because she is technically partially retired,

928
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 4: that is true, so she kind of cut herself.

929
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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, at a point.

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00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 4: And then I would marry Brooke. I love playing with

931
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Speaker 4: Brooke and her sister.

932
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Speaker 2: I love that, and her game is just amazing. It

933
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: is amazing. Yeah, and I feel like her driver just

934
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: looks so long for her, but she crushes.

935
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 3: It every time.

936
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Speaker 2: She makes it look so easy.

937
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 3: Okay, last one, Michelle Wee West, Brittany Lindscombe, Stacy Lewis.

938
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Speaker 2: I think I would travel again with Michelle.

939
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know shep sure, I has all the good

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00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 4: food recommendations, She's got the babies that we could do

941
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 4: little play dates again. Stacy, I think I would marry Stacey. Wow,

942
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 4: she's I mean a legend. Yeah, she's an icon in

943
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Speaker 4: the game. And then Brittany. This is really brutal. I

944
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Speaker 4: would I guess I'd have to cut Brittany. No hard feelings, guys,

945
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 4: it's just the game. There is no one like send

946
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 4: some messages.

947
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, no offense.

948
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Speaker 3: I love it. That is the end of the game.

949
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Speaker 3: And final question. Where can listeners follow you and see

950
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 3: everything that's going on.

951
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 4: I'm on Instagram at Cheyenne Underscore Woods and Twitter as well,

952
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 4: but not so much active on there, but Instagram for sure.

953
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 4: Stay updated again on the golf past show for sure.

954
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Speaker 4: Just all of our family fun that we do.

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Speaker 3: your host. Tisha Allen. Christina Everett is our executive producer,

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Speaker 3: and Jennifer Bassett is our producer. Sound mixing and mastering

959
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