WEBVTT - Remain Yourself in Every Environment

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, listeners, welcome back. I'm Nadrik lover to wab and

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<v Speaker 1>you need to hear this. When we start romantic relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes we are looking for a particular thing and a

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<v Speaker 1>particular person. Perhaps we are looking for something completely opposite

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<v Speaker 1>than what we experienced in our last relationship, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking for fun, or maybe we are looking for

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<v Speaker 1>someone to rescue us. After being in a relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>someone for a few years, we may start to realize

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<v Speaker 1>that thing that I needed so much of in the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning is no longer what I need. And now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in this relationship with this person who met me one

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<v Speaker 1>way and I've completely changed or my needs have changed.

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<v Speaker 1>How do I show up in a different way? How

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<v Speaker 1>do you show up when the person you meet is

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<v Speaker 1>very different from who they presented as. So today we

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<v Speaker 1>will be talking about one reclaiming your identity and reclaiming

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<v Speaker 1>yourself a statement a relationship. But I'll tell you right off,

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<v Speaker 1>relationships would be much healthier if we did some work

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<v Speaker 1>around not only what we want, but why and exploring

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<v Speaker 1>is that something we need to offer ourselves or something

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<v Speaker 1>that we need to expect from our partners. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>started with today's letter.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi Nindra, thank you so much for all of your

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<v Speaker 2>impactful work. Your responses to others issues have been a

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<v Speaker 2>huge help to me, and I hope that others can

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<v Speaker 2>resonate with my situation and get help as well. Where

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<v Speaker 2>do I begin. My husband and I have been married

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<v Speaker 2>for eight years and we have a three year old son.

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<v Speaker 2>I met amount of time in my life when I

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<v Speaker 2>need a direction and I wasn't sure if the choices

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<v Speaker 2>I was making in my career and personal life or

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<v Speaker 2>leading to the life that I want, which was to

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<v Speaker 2>be a successful working mother with a supportive husband, and

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<v Speaker 2>we would grow with each other as we faced life's adventures.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a whirl when romance moved in together after

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<v Speaker 2>five months, were engaged at eight months, moved to another

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<v Speaker 2>state together four months later, and got married a year

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<v Speaker 2>after that. We moved so fast that I didn't recognize

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<v Speaker 2>certain aspects of my husband until it felt too late

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<v Speaker 2>to get out of the relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>He grew up.

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<v Speaker 2>Watching his father emotionally and physically abuse his mom, and

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<v Speaker 2>my husband displays many of the behaviors typical of someone

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<v Speaker 2>who was emotionally abusive. He likes to control my behavior choices, speech, appearance,

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<v Speaker 2>parenting style, and my relationship with others. He's also extremely

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<v Speaker 2>critical of everything I do, and he constantly nags and

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<v Speaker 2>complains about things that I do, from the food I

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<v Speaker 2>cook to how I clean our home to what I

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<v Speaker 2>decide to do. When I finally have a moment to myself,

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<v Speaker 2>it makes me feel so small and I don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>loved or respected in this marriage. I don't feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>to be myself. I walk on eggshells all day and

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I don't have an identity of my

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<v Speaker 2>own anymore since my mind is preoccupied with thoughts of

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<v Speaker 2>how to appease him. I never saw myself as someone

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<v Speaker 2>that was weak until I met him, and it seems

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm always failing to meet his unrealistic expectations. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been successful in my career and used to have fruitful

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<v Speaker 2>and strong relationships, and now I feel like I've lost

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<v Speaker 2>myself as well as been isolated for my friends and family.

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<v Speaker 2>After adjusting to life as a mom and surviving in

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<v Speaker 2>this emotionally abusive marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a lot to process here. The first thing

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<v Speaker 1>that is coming to mind is when did you start

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<v Speaker 1>to notice these shifts where you are willing participant. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>we look at others and we say, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>they made me lose myself When there is some responsibility

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<v Speaker 1>and giving ourselves away, and it doesn't happen immediately, it

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<v Speaker 1>sort of happens over time. We can get so excited

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<v Speaker 1>about people loving us and caring for us that we

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<v Speaker 1>just give them everything. Well what do you think about

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<v Speaker 1>this thing? Should I wear this? What do you think

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<v Speaker 1>about that? And over time it becomes the voice that

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<v Speaker 1>they use with us. They are now the criticizer. They

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<v Speaker 1>are now this person who who knows how much we

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<v Speaker 1>value what they have to say and what they think.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things I've seen work really really well

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<v Speaker 1>with this is gaining some courage and strength through therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>You need a person where you can be absolutely honest

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<v Speaker 1>with about what's happening, so that you're constantly reminded what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening is not normal, what's being said is uncomfortable, and

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<v Speaker 1>here are some ways that you can start to manage it.

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<v Speaker 1>When you don't have those relationships with family and friends,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very important that you build those relationships somewhere. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's therapy, you know, maybe it's a support group, but

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<v Speaker 1>it needs to be some level of support so you're

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<v Speaker 1>not isolated in this, because as long as you're isolated,

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<v Speaker 1>you will not be able to work through some of

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff, because, let's face it, he is your only

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<v Speaker 1>support right now. You have to find some other people

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<v Speaker 1>who can help build your self esteem, who can help

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<v Speaker 1>you reidentify some of those things that you've lost over

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<v Speaker 1>time because you're walking on eggshells and trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out what's happening here. One of my favorite movies is

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<v Speaker 1>The Color Purple, and in this movie, the main character, Seeley,

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<v Speaker 1>She is sent to live with this man who is

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<v Speaker 1>emotionally abusive and physically abusive. She loses her self esteem,

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<v Speaker 1>she completely loses her identity, and it's not until she

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<v Speaker 1>discovers I'm telling the whole movie, Oh my gosh, spoiler alert.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot to say that, it's not until she discovers

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<v Speaker 1>the secret that he's been keeping. I won't say what

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<v Speaker 1>the secret is. There, I've saved something that she's able

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<v Speaker 1>to start unwrapping some of the damage that has been done,

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<v Speaker 1>and she slowly gains courage and her voice and she

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<v Speaker 1>starts to use it, and it's, oh my gosh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so offensive. To him, there are times when because of

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship, we slowly start to lose parts of ourselves,

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<v Speaker 1>and there is an event, there is a person, there

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<v Speaker 1>is a relationship that we can have like such as

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<v Speaker 1>that with a therapist or with a friend that can

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<v Speaker 1>really pull us out to show us this is who

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<v Speaker 1>you are, don't you remember? Let's keep listening to hear

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<v Speaker 1>more about this story.

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<v Speaker 2>Additionally, we decided to move to a new city, San Diego,

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<v Speaker 2>a year and a half ago, to care for a

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<v Speaker 2>sick mother and get support from his family to help

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<v Speaker 2>with our son. But the move was an absolute nightmare.

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<v Speaker 2>My husband decided to leave his job and start his

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<v Speaker 2>own company once he moved, but his business is not

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<v Speaker 2>profitable yet and this has been a huge blow to

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<v Speaker 2>his ego, causing him to be more depressed and take

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<v Speaker 2>out his frustrations on others close to him. We live

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<v Speaker 2>with my mother in law, and her behavior in the

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<v Speaker 2>general home environment has been toxic since we moved here.

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<v Speaker 2>She and my husband argued constantly for our first year

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<v Speaker 2>here about so many things, bills, the past, their ideas

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<v Speaker 2>of how our son should be raised, how the house

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<v Speaker 2>should be managed. I got dragged into many of the

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<v Speaker 2>arguments and was often placed in the middle as a

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<v Speaker 2>mediator or for them to use me as someone to

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<v Speaker 2>co sign on their viewpoint. Things have been more civil

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<v Speaker 2>among all of us now, but my relationship with her

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<v Speaker 2>is now ruined, and our relationship with my son is

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<v Speaker 2>now strained as well. She's worried she will upset my

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<v Speaker 2>husband by getting close to her grandson.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hearing that he is not only abusive in the

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with you. There's this dynamic playing out with him

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<v Speaker 1>and his mom as well, and it sounds like there

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<v Speaker 1>could be some allyship there, and I hear the fear

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<v Speaker 1>on your part, But that may be the person in

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<v Speaker 1>this with you, or at least having the conversation to

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<v Speaker 1>open the floor and say, what do you think about

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<v Speaker 1>what he said? When? What do you think about this

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<v Speaker 1>thing that he did last week? You know, having that conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>you may be able to understand her position and be

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<v Speaker 1>able to even get some courage and inspiration from that,

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<v Speaker 1>like oh my gosh, like this could be you. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this could be a cycle repeating. You now have a

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<v Speaker 1>son who's watching this dynamic and it seems like his

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<v Speaker 1>mother is being treated by him how she was treated

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<v Speaker 1>by his father, So I would talk more about this

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<v Speaker 1>a bit openly, just to see where her head is

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<v Speaker 1>and if she's aware of what's happening. If she's aware

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<v Speaker 1>of what's even happening with you, let's keep listening.

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<v Speaker 2>As you can imagine, it's been exhausting managing the issues

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<v Speaker 2>in my marriage, plus the contentious environment in the home

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<v Speaker 2>with my mother in law, plus raising a toddler in

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<v Speaker 2>a new city without my friends and family, plus serving

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<v Speaker 2>as the breadwinner and taking on the pressure of managing

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<v Speaker 2>everything in the household while my husband builds his business.

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<v Speaker 2>A month ago, I got the courage to tell my

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<v Speaker 2>husband I went out of the relationship. I went out

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<v Speaker 2>of the marriage, and I need to move back to

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<v Speaker 2>my hometown as soon as logistically possible. I let him

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<v Speaker 2>know that I don't feel loved or appreciated and this

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<v Speaker 2>isn't how I want to live my life anymore. I

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<v Speaker 2>just have had enough of the stress and anxiety, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want my son to be influenced by the

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<v Speaker 2>toxicity anymore, or for him to see me as someone

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<v Speaker 2>who is weak and letting others. My husband, my mother

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<v Speaker 2>in law disrespects me. I don't want him to think

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<v Speaker 2>this behavior is okay. I want to be just as

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<v Speaker 2>strong in my home life as I am in my

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<v Speaker 2>professional life, which I absolutely thrive in and have received

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<v Speaker 2>multiple promotions in the last two years, despite the craziness

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<v Speaker 2>going on in my personal life.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear that you have some healthy self esteem, and

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<v Speaker 1>that healthy self esteem seems to play out in the

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<v Speaker 1>work environment. You know, we can be different parts of

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves depending on the atmosphere of the environment we're in.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's already in you to do the standing up,

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<v Speaker 1>to be assertive, to do a wonderful job as a human.

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<v Speaker 1>You already do it at work, and I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 1>do it as a mother. It's very interesting because of

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<v Speaker 1>the environment with him, you're not able to tap into

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<v Speaker 1>what's already manifested in you. It's already there. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>doing anything different, you're learning any new skills. You already

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<v Speaker 1>have the tools. What I'm hearing with you saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this marriage is not working. I don't feel love or

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. It reminds me of the atmosphere we're in

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<v Speaker 1>with women initiating more divorces in this season. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hearing a lack of appreciation and over time, that

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<v Speaker 1>resentment does turn into stress and anger and anxiety. Because

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be noticed for the good that you do.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to hear good job, Oh thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for cooking. Oh thank you so much. You do

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<v Speaker 1>such a wonderful job with our son. You take care

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<v Speaker 1>of the home so well. And I know that sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like what who would say that you know a person

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<v Speaker 1>who appreciates you. A thank you can happen at any time,

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<v Speaker 1>and it can be for anything. It can be for

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<v Speaker 1>you picking something up off the floor. So it is

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<v Speaker 1>so important to very many of us that we are

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<v Speaker 1>seeing in the way of being thanked. That is how

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<v Speaker 1>you appreciate us. It's not you know, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to write a card and send balloons and

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff. Sometimes I think you can go a

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<v Speaker 1>long way. I love a thank you, and I love

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<v Speaker 1>to send a thank you card. I love to tell

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<v Speaker 1>people thank you. That is such a powerful phrase. And

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm hearing is you're not being thank You're not

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<v Speaker 1>being appreciated. No one is seeing, you know, your hard

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<v Speaker 1>work in all of these environments, and instead you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>this passive aggressive response of you could be doing more

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<v Speaker 1>or this is what I think about this, ah dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>This is what you may that is very hurtful, and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it is very harmful. Again, you know, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>need some support around this. When people end up in

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<v Speaker 1>unhealthy relationships, it can be quite embarrassing to share with

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<v Speaker 1>other people, to let people know what you've been going through.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I will say is, once we speak about

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<v Speaker 1>the things we're going through, you will be shocked and

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<v Speaker 1>utterly surprised by other people who've been dealing with the

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<v Speaker 1>same stuff, who may have some words of encouragement for you,

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<v Speaker 1>who may have some resources for you that can be

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<v Speaker 1>very supportive for you in this season. So keeping quiet

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<v Speaker 1>is actually keeping that support away. Keeping quiet is more

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<v Speaker 1>harmful than you sang to someone who you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't spoke to them in a while, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can open up and say, hey, you know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a few months, I haven't called. There's been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot on my mind and I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you I am very drained by my marriage. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what I'm going through. Let people know. Maybe not everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's your business. You don't have to tell everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>but it can be really helpful to tell some people

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<v Speaker 1>who have the capacity to listen and to be there

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<v Speaker 1>for you about what's happening with you, because when you're

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<v Speaker 1>operating an isolation, I'm sure you're living in this sort

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<v Speaker 1>of questioned city, like was that weird? Do he mean that?

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<v Speaker 1>What did he mean by this? What is that? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like all of these questions when in actuality, if you

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<v Speaker 1>talk to someone about this and just say, hey, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what was said, someone could say, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's mean, that's not normal. I can't believe he

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<v Speaker 1>said that. Like, you know, you can get some feedback

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<v Speaker 1>from someone from a friend, from a family member, and

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<v Speaker 1>heck yeah, from a therapist. You need some support around

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<v Speaker 1>this issue, and the support is not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>offered with your son. You know he is. He is

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<v Speaker 1>charming and sweet, I'm sure, but he needs to have

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to be in healthy relationships himself. So think

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<v Speaker 1>of you getting some help as showing him a path

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<v Speaker 1>for receiving some help as well, some support around managing

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<v Speaker 1>his emotions, because he is now an environment where he's

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<v Speaker 1>not seeing people do well, is particularly d with managing

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<v Speaker 1>his reaction to things, So it can be very helpful

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<v Speaker 1>in many ways for you to work on some of

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. I know you have a ton of questions

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<v Speaker 1>about what you're going through, and after this break we

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<v Speaker 1>will get back to those questions. You know, as we

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<v Speaker 1>were on break, I thought about this listical I created

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<v Speaker 1>a few years ago, and it is ten signs of

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<v Speaker 1>emotional abuse. Let's go through the ten. Number one, the

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<v Speaker 1>silent treatment. That is when someone refuses to speak to

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<v Speaker 1>you when you are direct speaking to them. We may

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<v Speaker 1>say something to them and they're like, you're not even here,

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<v Speaker 1>You're invisible, right, So the silent treatment. Number two blaming

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<v Speaker 1>others for your feelings. It is your thought. I am angry.

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<v Speaker 1>I am mad because you made me mad because you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't clean out the dishwasher. Number three. Manipulating to get

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<v Speaker 1>what you want, you know, trying to intentionally change someone's

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<v Speaker 1>feelings because you want something. Number four Intentionally shaming someone,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make them feel bad. Oh, if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>help me, then blank, right, So I'm going to make

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<v Speaker 1>you feel bad enough that you will help me. You

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<v Speaker 1>will do this thing that I need you to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Five Ridiculing someone for expressing emotions. Oh, look at you,

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<v Speaker 1>you're crying. What are you crying about? You're always crying

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<v Speaker 1>about stuff. Oh you're sad? You know. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds as I'm saying this, it sounds very childlike. But

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<v Speaker 1>in adult relationships we do this, you know, we ridicule

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<v Speaker 1>people for having an expression of emotion. Why are you crying?

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you upset? What are you sad about? And

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<v Speaker 1>they know exactly what it is because they just did something,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, explosive to make you feel that way. Number

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<v Speaker 1>six Ignoring a person when they express their feelings or thoughts,

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<v Speaker 1>not even listening to you, right like, I heard you

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<v Speaker 1>say that, but I also did not hear you say that.

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<v Speaker 1>Number seven. Not responding to be is for comfort when

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<v Speaker 1>you are upset and a person caused it, and you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>can you hold my hand? Can we talk through this?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you? You know, all of these things in a

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<v Speaker 1>person's like no, you sit there and suffer. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like a taunting that some people can do sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Number eight telling someone how they should or should not feel.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have anything to be upset about. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to cry about that. Why are you angry? You're

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<v Speaker 1>the one who said this to me. Nine gaslighting, which

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<v Speaker 1>kind of encompasses all of the above, trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>you feel as if what happened did not happen. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>gaslighting is one of the biggest signs and probably most

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<v Speaker 1>prominent signs of emotional abuse that we see, making someone

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<v Speaker 1>question their sanity, making someone question what they feel or

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<v Speaker 1>what they saw happen. And number ten ignoring attempts to

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<v Speaker 1>communicate when you're trying to work through something and the

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<v Speaker 1>person isn't clear like, hey, I'll talk to you about

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<v Speaker 1>it later. They're just like, I'm not talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about it, with no indication that they

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<v Speaker 1>will follow up on it. You know, if it happens

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<v Speaker 1>often enough, it can be a bit abusive. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>any one of these things, occasionally, I would not say

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<v Speaker 1>is abuse. It's human nature to maybe manipulate sometimes sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>we do get caught up and you know, not responding

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<v Speaker 1>to someone's bids for comfort. But if this is the

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<v Speaker 1>way that a person responds ninety nine point nine percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the time, then there may be some things happening

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<v Speaker 1>that are not one offs. It is not just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a poor decision on this particular day. It's a pattern

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<v Speaker 1>of behaviors. You give me the silent treatment. Often I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you five times in the last week, you

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<v Speaker 1>stop talking to me. I've seen this play out where

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<v Speaker 1>couples will say, yeah, we haven't talked to each other

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<v Speaker 1>in two weeks. What do they mean by that? It's

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<v Speaker 1>been like you have our son, Okay, bye, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation for two weeks. It's only based on that one

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<v Speaker 1>thing where I'm not asking you for anything, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>telling you when dinner's ready, I just will not talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you. So some of these things it becomes a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the relationship dynamic, not just with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the one person being emotionally withdrawn or abusive, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can start to mimic some of this stuff too in

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<v Speaker 1>response to other people in our relationship. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>look at both parties right. Sometimes we're like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>this person is always doing this thing to me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder, even in our desire to protect ourselves, what

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<v Speaker 1>are we doing. You know, sometimes we're doing nothing and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes we are doing something. So be aware of what

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<v Speaker 1>you might be bringing to the situation as well. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you the person who blames that person for having feelings

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<v Speaker 1>when you've created some dynamic. This isn't necessarily for the

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<v Speaker 1>letter writer, this is for all of us because we

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<v Speaker 1>need to be aware of ourselves in relationships. Am I

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<v Speaker 1>gaslighting this person because I just told them that that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't happen a way that they thought it did. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I am? Wow. There is power and self correction. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you notice yourself doing any of these things in

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<v Speaker 1>a partnership and a friendship and a family ship and

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<v Speaker 1>a coworkership, please correct yourself. We're not looking for here,

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<v Speaker 1>but we are looking for practice. So just do a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit better next time, or go back and say,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, the other day, you know, you were

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<v Speaker 1>trying to tell me something and I completely shut you down.

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<v Speaker 1>My apologies. Do you want to talk to me about

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<v Speaker 1>it now? So there are ways to get out of

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<v Speaker 1>these behaviors. Is you notice that you're the perpetrator? Because

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<v Speaker 1>to some extent, maybe we all do this, but not

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. It's problematic when we are the person

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<v Speaker 1>who's constantly in this set of behaviors. Let's get back

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<v Speaker 1>to those questions from the letter writer. So my main

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<v Speaker 1>questions are, first, how can I start to rebuild my

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<v Speaker 1>self esteem after nearly a decade of being put down

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<v Speaker 1>by my partner? I know there's so much to learn

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<v Speaker 1>from my mistakes, and I'm already feeling stronger than I

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<v Speaker 1>have in a really long time. But how can I

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<v Speaker 1>keep this momentum up while navigating the separation and pending

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<v Speaker 1>the force. I started reading self help books when I

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<v Speaker 1>was in high school, and my introduction to self help

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<v Speaker 1>was Ayala van zand I was really drawn to her

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<v Speaker 1>personality and I liked her books. One of the books

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<v Speaker 1>I read that I often recommend to clients is In

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<v Speaker 1>the Meantime. Now, imagine me a sixteen seventeen year old

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<v Speaker 1>girl reading In the Meantime, which is about you know

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<v Speaker 1>what to do when you're in this rocky place in

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<v Speaker 1>your relationship or when you're between, you know, dating relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm reading this book. A lot of the scenarios at

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<v Speaker 1>the time did not apply to me, but I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it would be good preparation for my place in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>because we all end up in relationships at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>so I just wanted to know what might be headed

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<v Speaker 1>my way. So I'm going to recommend that book because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hearing some of those scenarios that I read in

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<v Speaker 1>that book, which I have read again as a full

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<v Speaker 1>fledged adult, playing out in your relationship, and it can

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<v Speaker 1>be very helpful for us to identify with the stories

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<v Speaker 1>of others, to have some sort of guide to help

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<v Speaker 1>us along the way. So the book that I would

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<v Speaker 1>recommend for self esteem rebuilding after a difficult relationship is

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<v Speaker 1>In the Meantime. Another book that is coming to mind

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<v Speaker 1>is Whole Again, Whole Again. In that book, it talks

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<v Speaker 1>about how to repair yourself after all of the emotional abuse,

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<v Speaker 1>how to recover from toxic relationships. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>newer tips about things to do. So I would say

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<v Speaker 1>those two books would be very helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>For in the meantime, there's a journal to accompany the

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<v Speaker 1>book that could be really helpful. So if you buy

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<v Speaker 1>the book or if you buy the journal, it could

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<v Speaker 1>be helpful for processing some of those things. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of a journal, and I will tell you why

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<v Speaker 1>I love a guided journal based on whatever issue you're

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<v Speaker 1>experiencing in life, because it will give you all of

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<v Speaker 1>the questions to do the work. So if you are

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<v Speaker 1>working through a challenge with having a partner who has

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<v Speaker 1>a substance abuse issue, there is a workbook for that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a workbook for that. And guess what you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll go through all these areas of the relationship that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you didn't even think about. And I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great way to prepare to go to therapy or

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<v Speaker 1>even to show up in the therapy space. I always

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<v Speaker 1>recommend a good old work book to my clients. If

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<v Speaker 1>we don't do the pages together, sometimes I'll pull it

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<v Speaker 1>out and I'll say, Okay, here's a page, or let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this. It's not even you have to feel

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<v Speaker 1>this in and do this activity. Let's just talk about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's look at these workbook questions because I may not

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<v Speaker 1>even know what to ask, but someone does. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>workbook for that. Let's move on to the next question.

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<v Speaker 2>How do I reclaim my identity when so much of

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<v Speaker 2>my intention has been drawn elsewhere. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>where to start when it comes to caring for myself,

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<v Speaker 2>figuring out who I really am now since so much

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<v Speaker 2>has changed since becoming a mom.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this episode is about to be a

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<v Speaker 1>whole episode about book recommendations, because the thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>am hearing the most is there's a lot of work

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<v Speaker 1>to be done around personality recovery, identity, lifestyle transition, and

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<v Speaker 1>that reminds me that there's not one thing you need

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<v Speaker 1>to do. There are many things that need to be done.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can rest and pause. But a book

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<v Speaker 1>is coming to mind. I'm thinking of a book called

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<v Speaker 1>mom Brain. I'm thinking of another book that could be

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<v Speaker 1>really good for this, called self nurture. You're going through

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<v Speaker 1>so many things at once. When you become a mom,

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<v Speaker 1>many of us take on the new identity as mom.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm no longer Nadra, I'm this kid's mom,

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<v Speaker 1>and you are still yourself. You are still in there

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<v Speaker 1>steal a person with needs, even though this little human

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<v Speaker 1>has a ton of needs, even though your husband has

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of needs, even though his mom, even though

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<v Speaker 1>the household you have all the same needs that you've

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<v Speaker 1>always had and you're just adding more to it. So

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<v Speaker 1>there is this harmony that we have to create to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure we are taking care of ourselves really, really well.

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<v Speaker 1>And one way that I think we can do that

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<v Speaker 1>better is to learn how we have to learn how

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<v Speaker 1>we have to become educated about taking care of ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>in this role of being a mother, of being a father,

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, even being a friend. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>learn how to be friends. Sometimes we have to learn

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<v Speaker 1>how to be in healthy relationships, because you can see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens when we don't learn anything. We just repeat

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<v Speaker 1>what we've seen, We repeat what we know others have done,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not always best and most of the time

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<v Speaker 1>it's a disaster. And in this situation you describe, your

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<v Speaker 1>husband has seen this stuff and now he's just repeating it.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have been so helpful to learn something different

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<v Speaker 1>that comes from maybe not our environments, it can come

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<v Speaker 1>from educating ourselves about how to show up as a

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<v Speaker 1>healthy being in our relationships with others. Let's keep listening.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing so much reflecting the help of my therapist

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<v Speaker 2>on things I should have healed before starting my relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with my husband, and developing plans to do even more

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<v Speaker 2>healing and growing so that I can be my best self.

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<v Speaker 2>Feelings of guilt and regret often creep up while doing

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<v Speaker 2>this work, not to mention that I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing this own loan. Since I've been isolated for my

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<v Speaker 2>friends and family and to the controlling marriage. What can

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<v Speaker 2>I do to move past those negative thoughts and strengthen

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<v Speaker 2>compassion for myself and the situation I put myself in.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy to hear your going to a therapist.

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<v Speaker 1>Take all of these book recommendations, these workbook recommendations, take

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<v Speaker 1>them back to your therapist and see what they feel about.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, some of these things. It can be really

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<v Speaker 1>helpful for us to figure out, you know, how we

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<v Speaker 1>got ourselves to this point. But what is the most

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<v Speaker 1>pressing thing right now? Whatever is happening right now? It's

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<v Speaker 1>not oh my gosh, five years ago I was in

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<v Speaker 1>this space. It's like, girl, he yelled at me yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>right like, that's what we need to work through. It's

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful to know how you got here and all those things.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would say there are some solution focused approaches

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<v Speaker 1>that could be really helpful here. What do you do

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<v Speaker 1>next time when he says this thing? What do you

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<v Speaker 1>do when he tries to demean you? How do you

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<v Speaker 1>respond to him being upset when you say no? Those

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<v Speaker 1>are the things that could be helpful right now? Why

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<v Speaker 1>you got here? You spoke about it. It was a whirlwind.

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<v Speaker 1>He was very nice, and let's face it, people and

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<v Speaker 1>they were jerks. On a first date, you would not

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<v Speaker 1>be here. I'm sure. He was charming, wonderful, His cologne

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<v Speaker 1>smelled good, his fingernails was clipped, he was funny, all

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<v Speaker 1>of the things you would not be with a monster

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<v Speaker 1>who bopped you over the head on the first date.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't happen that way. There is a process to it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So how did you get here? And oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a terrible person. You're a person who believed in

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<v Speaker 1>other human beings, you were hopeful, you thought love was love.

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<v Speaker 1>You listen to your mother's, your friends, like you've watched

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<v Speaker 1>some movies like this is what we expect, and hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>that happens. Hopefully that happens. Every once in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>It does not. And I'm saying every once in a

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<v Speaker 1>while loosely, but that's what I want to believe. But

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it does not happen that way. It doesn't mean,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, I was picking the wrong things unless

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<v Speaker 1>they were right with the right person. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these things we do in the beginning, you know, It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>with the right person, this wouldn't be an issue five

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<v Speaker 1>years later. So some of this stuff you may pick

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<v Speaker 1>apart about yourself. Oh I should have did this. It

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<v Speaker 1>was this thing, it was that thing. It's like, this

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<v Speaker 1>may have been a situation of the person and not

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<v Speaker 1>the behavior. Let's keep listening.

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<v Speaker 2>Realistically, can the relationships with my mother in law and

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<v Speaker 2>my husband be salvaged. I don't want to be connected

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<v Speaker 2>to him romantically anymore, but we will need to have

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<v Speaker 2>a good working relationship moving forward so that we can

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<v Speaker 2>raise our son from our respective households dual custody. Since

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<v Speaker 2>I told him my decision to leave, he has not

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<v Speaker 2>been critical, has not controlled me, and we've been able

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<v Speaker 2>to be cordial and handle logistics of parenting together. He

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<v Speaker 2>recognized his part and my decision, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to change how he is, which is why

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<v Speaker 2>I am moving on. I just don't know how long

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<v Speaker 2>this peace will last. I'm terrified that I'll start trying

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<v Speaker 2>to micromanage how I raise my son when he's with me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm leaving because I don't have the freedom to be myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to make sure I have the tools

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<v Speaker 2>to maintain that freedom. Details are important to note. We

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<v Speaker 2>attended couples therapy prior to our moved to San Diego

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<v Speaker 2>and I found it helpful, but my husband did not,

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<v Speaker 2>and he decided that we would manage things on our own.

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<v Speaker 2>We each have our own therapists who have been helping

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<v Speaker 2>us grow separately since moving to San Diego, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>still currently in the same household, but I will be

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<v Speaker 2>moving out in a month. Thank you so much for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Years ago, I read this book called The Choice by

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Edith Ecker, and she spoke about being married for

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<v Speaker 1>thirty plus years and divorcing her husband because she built

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<v Speaker 1>so much resentment. She was upset at her mental load

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<v Speaker 1>in the relationship, she was doing the primary parenting, just

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<v Speaker 1>all of these things. She got so upset. They went

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<v Speaker 1>their separate ways, they started dating other people, and she

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<v Speaker 1>started to realize, oh my gosh, it was me. It

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<v Speaker 1>was me, me stopping me from being able to show

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<v Speaker 1>up in that relationship. I was looking for him to

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<v Speaker 1>grant me permission to do these things that I could

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<v Speaker 1>have been doing. So sometimes taking some space away from

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<v Speaker 1>a situation, we can see maybe this person isn't really

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<v Speaker 1>hold to be back now. They are providing some discomfort

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<v Speaker 1>in the environment, but I can still be myself. It

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<v Speaker 1>may not be comfortable for them, they may not like

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<v Speaker 1>some things, but that doesn't mean that I can't do

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<v Speaker 1>those things. So, whether you are in a marriage with him,

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<v Speaker 1>you are in a co parenting relationship, you will have

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<v Speaker 1>to show up as yourself, so some of your work

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<v Speaker 1>will be figuring out how to be yourself with a

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<v Speaker 1>difficult person. He may be unwilling to make that easier

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<v Speaker 1>for you, but it's what you have to do. You

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<v Speaker 1>environment for us to be ourselves, and we still need

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