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Speaker 1: we have more Cardi B with the Cardi B again there, Michael,
Speaker 1: what are you? Welcome to the Armstrong and get a
Speaker 1: show the most excellent Mike demonus congressional reporter covering the
Speaker 1: House of Representatives for the Washington Post. Mike has joined
Speaker 1: us to discuss Ariana Grande pulling out of the Grammy telecast.
Speaker 1: I didn't hear that. I'm kidding, Mike. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to slip that in briefly. How are you, sir? Before
Speaker 1: were going forward? Devastay didn't know about Ariana ground before
Speaker 1: we go forward. She's got the number one chief is
Speaker 1: investigating her, he says, desperation because she got that tattoo
Speaker 1: that turned out to be Korean barbecue. No, it's just
Speaker 1: an argument over what song would be sung. Uh. Speaking
Speaker 1: of singing songs, though, we'll be singing the song of
Speaker 1: investigations for quite some time. Mike as the gosh, how
Speaker 1: many investigations of the president are about to get started? Well,
Speaker 1: it depends on how you define of the president. If
Speaker 1: you include you know, the business, the campaign, and the
Speaker 1: the administration, the agencies. I mean, I couldn't begin to
Speaker 1: give you a uh a number, but just keep in
Speaker 1: mind there's about twenty standing House committees and almost all
Speaker 1: of those are are going to have some piece of that.
Speaker 1: You're going to have investigations soap, and most of them
Speaker 1: are going to be into the administration and agencies and
Speaker 1: things that they're doing. But you know, the Intelligence Committee,
Speaker 1: the Oversight Committee, the Financial Services Committee, UM, are all
Speaker 1: looking at the business and looking at the president in
Speaker 1: various aspects of his personal dealings. Um. It's it's a lot,
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Well, so Cheff, the chairman of
Speaker 1: the Intelligence Committee, he laid out a five point investigation
Speaker 1: that many set felt was broader than even previously expected,
Speaker 1: and it was suspected to be pretty broad. So what
Speaker 1: are what are what are the five points? Roughly? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean in the broadest terms, he says that he's
Speaker 1: the Intelligence Committee is gonna look at whether the president
Speaker 1: is compromised in some way due to his business entanglements abroad. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know this is you know, certainly larger than what
Speaker 1: the Intelligence Committee under Republican majority was looking at, which
Speaker 1: was very narrowly focused on the question of Rosan collision.
Speaker 1: And you know, crafts or frustrated throughout um the past
Speaker 1: two years that you know, they were not that Chairman
Speaker 1: Nuns was not following leads. Now there's no telling how
Speaker 1: broad Adam Schiff is going to sort of cast his
Speaker 1: net here. Can he do whatever he wants? I remember
Speaker 1: Cummings on on the Oversight Committee when he was on
Speaker 1: sixty Minutes the other night, he said, we can investigate anything. Uh. Well,
Speaker 1: the Oversight Committee does statutorily have extremely broad jurisdiction. The
Speaker 1: Intelligence Committee has a narrower jurisdiction, you know, relating to
Speaker 1: the activity of the intelligence community. Well, I guess my
Speaker 1: question is do you have to have a certain amount
Speaker 1: like you know, the police have to have they have
Speaker 1: to get a warrant and show probable cause and all
Speaker 1: this sort of stuff before or can can he just
Speaker 1: go down any road he wants because we think there
Speaker 1: may have been something broadly with Russia. You're you know,
Speaker 1: the guardrails are twofold. You know that some of these
Speaker 1: committees do have statutory jurisdiction that they've got a respect
Speaker 1: they can't you know sort of you know, like the
Speaker 1: Foreign Affairs Committee can't go look at the Department Hope
Speaker 1: Land Security because it's just not in their portfolio. But
Speaker 1: you know, the more important guard rail for these committees
Speaker 1: is just politics and whether you know, there's a perception
Speaker 1: that they're overreaching, and whether they have the support of
Speaker 1: their party leadership and the members the majority members of
Speaker 1: the committee. But as long as these chairmen have that,
Speaker 1: they have incredible power to go, uh, find out what
Speaker 1: they want to find out and you know, subpoena potentially
Speaker 1: who they want a subpoena, or invite for hearings, who
Speaker 1: they want to invite and uh, you know, and that's
Speaker 1: why the President has been so outspoken in calling this
Speaker 1: presidential harassment and which hunt and so on and so forth,
Speaker 1: because the only real um thing limiting this, you know,
Speaker 1: his exposure at this point is public sentiment that Democrats
Speaker 1: are going too far, and if you can create that sentiment,
Speaker 1: maybe that can place some some limits on what Democrats
Speaker 1: they're willing to do. But there's no sign that that
Speaker 1: there at that point. At this point, well, yeah, how
Speaker 1: it plays out politically is a really interesting question, and
Speaker 1: the you know, multi billion trillion dollar question, because if
Speaker 1: there's a perception that a lot that comes out as
Speaker 1: quote unquote fake news, I mean, that's just it won't
Speaker 1: register with Trump supporters. Mike de Bonus of the Washington
Speaker 1: Post is online. I also understand that Ways and means
Speaker 1: is um. You know, I don't mean this prejudicially, but
Speaker 1: they're trying to cook up a pretext for demanding the
Speaker 1: president's tax returns. Well, I did. What's going on is
Speaker 1: let's cooking up a pretext to sort of welighing down
Speaker 1: a foundation, uh for potential potato. Yeah, well, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, within there there is there is a federal
Speaker 1: statute that's there's the chairman of the Ways and Music Committee.
Speaker 1: You can get any tax with or any want. Um.
Speaker 1: He can publicize it, but he can get in and
Speaker 1: look at it. Oh my god, do you think it
Speaker 1: would leak. I mean, you know, I don't want to
Speaker 1: take these things lately, but you know, you know, you
Speaker 1: know my experience, you know, congressional investigators, you take you know,
Speaker 1: there these things seriously. Um. I I do think that, um.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously they want the tax returns, and they
Speaker 1: want to do it in a way that, um, you know,
Speaker 1: to the greatest extent possible, is rooted in a legitimate
Speaker 1: oversight interest. And that's the position that the Democrats have taken. Now,
Speaker 1: the President isn't going to see it that way, no
Speaker 1: matter what. The President's offenders aren't going to see it
Speaker 1: that way. Um, And I think that they're but Democrats
Speaker 1: are being very careful to try and create the impression
Speaker 1: that this is of the legitimate oversight activity and not
Speaker 1: a political attack on on the president. Yeah, if you're
Speaker 1: ready about that. It's gonna come down to the politics
Speaker 1: of it. I think, unless there's some great bombshells smoking
Speaker 1: guns somewhere, it's gonna be the politics whether you think
Speaker 1: this is appropriate. And the reason I brought up the
Speaker 1: probable cause aspect of it is how much probable cause
Speaker 1: do you need to have to think there's something fishy
Speaker 1: with Russia. So we're gonna look into every aspect of
Speaker 1: your life and trying time Russia. Could we in a
Speaker 1: different political, more polarized time if Republicans that had had
Speaker 1: the power at the time, could they have said Barack
Speaker 1: Obama with that Muslim sounded name and he grew up
Speaker 1: over there and the speech in Cairo and his soft
Speaker 1: deal with Iran, we need to look into his background
Speaker 1: and tore into every aspect of his life because they
Speaker 1: believe there has to be there has to be some
Speaker 1: compromising thing with him in Muslims or Middle East or something.
Speaker 1: Couldn't that happen? And I'm worried about us entering an
Speaker 1: era where every president is under endless investigation by the
Speaker 1: opposing party if they have the gavel. Sure, and I
Speaker 1: think you know, you're right to have that concern. I
Speaker 1: think that certainly if you asked Obama, he would feel
Speaker 1: that he would subject to some uh investigations. He didn't
Speaker 1: feel we're warranted or his administration anyway. I think him
Speaker 1: he personally was not um you know, but listen, worried.
Speaker 1: This is a political This is a political system, man.
Speaker 1: I think anybody who tries to pretend that that politics
Speaker 1: are going to be kept out of it as kidding themselves.
Speaker 1: I mean, and you know that that's why, you know,
Speaker 1: the card rails on this process are essentially political. You
Speaker 1: have to feel like you are you are have it,
Speaker 1: have the support of the public, have the support of
Speaker 1: your own party, your leadership, your your electoral base when
Speaker 1: you start these things, and you have to feel like
Speaker 1: you're gaining political advantage as you do it. And what
Speaker 1: if that is not the case, you know you'll you'll
Speaker 1: see Democrats abandoned these things. Uh, you know certainly, you know,
Speaker 1: Republicans fault they had political advantage when they were looking
Speaker 1: at you know, you had multiple different committees looking at
Speaker 1: the Benghazi situation. You had you know them working at
Speaker 1: the the I R. S UH targeting allegations. You know
Speaker 1: that that that's what drives these things. And you know
Speaker 1: this is not a court of law. This is this
Speaker 1: is the you know, the House of Representatives. This is
Speaker 1: the you know, the the you know, the hothouse of
Speaker 1: democracy and people bond to there, you know, political right
Speaker 1: and and well said, I think it's safe to say
Speaker 1: the dusts from all of these the dust from mologies investigations,
Speaker 1: will be swirling around us for the next couple of
Speaker 1: years at least. Mike Demonus of the Washington Post covers Congress. Mike,
Speaker 1: we sure appreciate the time. Well done, good to talk
Speaker 1: to you. Thanks. I just don't see how and if
Speaker 1: we have this political mood going on. The Barack Obama situation,
Speaker 1: that was a beautiful example. There was no birth certificate.
Speaker 1: Dad's from Kenya. It's just all pretty fishy, and you
Speaker 1: go down every road of his life looking for evidence
Speaker 1: of that. I want to see the college transcript, so
Speaker 1: I want to see the college application. What is he hiding?
Speaker 1: I want to see who paid every dollar that went
Speaker 1: to his education? And you come up with something for
Speaker 1: every president. What's coming up your news, Marshall? Ellie Elizabeth Warre,
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