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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the program. Mark Vandermer, John Harris

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Speaker 1: with you as we talk Texans off season, the break

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Speaker 1: between mini camp and training camp. Training camp starting in

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Speaker 1: mid to late July. I don't think we've announced that

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Speaker 1: official start date, but it's coming up soon.

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Speaker 2: Believe me.

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Speaker 1: Before you know it, Johnny, we're gonna be out there sweating,

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Speaker 1: talking football, having Nick Cassario on the air.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait for that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Sean and Seth have kind of kind of holding

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Speaker 3: it over our heads, and it says, look what we did.

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Speaker 1: We talked to Nick, and look at all these great

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Speaker 1: sound bites like dang it, man, I want that back,

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Speaker 1: want that bag, It'll it'll happen. We did Nick once

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Speaker 1: a week durn season, so I understandactly we get them

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Speaker 1: once a week during the season. I mean, I'd love

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Speaker 1: to share some Nick time. It's okay, It's okay. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They did a great interview with him to shard some

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Speaker 3: of those parts today as Sean was playing a little

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Speaker 3: bit from that interview, including Nick's feeling about war rooms

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Speaker 3: that all stand up with the rousing round applause after

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Speaker 3: the draft pick is made, which I find really really interesting.

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Speaker 3: And then I guess it was one of the I

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Speaker 3: can't remember the Twitter account it was that they were

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Speaker 3: talking about had put that sound clip and then followed

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Speaker 3: that with three videos of the Colts, the Titans, and

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Speaker 3: the Jaguars all standing and applauding after their draft pick.

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Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, that's pretty good. But I'm always

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Speaker 3: you know, I always love draft time. I love being here.

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Speaker 3: I would love to be a flying a wall for

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Speaker 3: the war room, just one, just one just to fly

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Speaker 3: on the wall that I could go back and watch

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Speaker 3: later after we did the draft on radio, just to

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Speaker 3: see what the what the room is like and how

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Speaker 3: you know, things happen in a room. And I always

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Speaker 3: love the makeup of a war room too, because you

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Speaker 3: see some of them, they are like thirty people in there,

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Speaker 3: like why there's so many people in here? And then

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Speaker 3: you know, for a long time with the Patriots, who

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Speaker 3: is Nick and Belichick and maybe two or three other

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Speaker 3: people and that was it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's an organizational preference, obviously, and it's an

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Speaker 1: organizational thing.

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Speaker 2: I think you have a lot of people in there have.

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Speaker 1: Worked hard on the scouting or whatever else, and you

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Speaker 1: know here, I think the McNair's are in there for

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Speaker 1: a bunch of it, and why not. It's their team.

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Speaker 1: Let them enjoy it, let them sample it. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's fun. It's fun to have that during draft weekend.

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Speaker 1: But what's interesting is years later, how do you feel

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Speaker 1: You felt good that night? But years later you don't

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Speaker 1: feel that good, kind of like some other things in

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Speaker 1: life sometimes, or you feel great about it afterwards, you

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Speaker 1: never know.

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Speaker 2: You hope you feel great about it.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's do this to start out Pro Football focus.

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Speaker 2: Your favorite, my favorite?

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Speaker 1: We like that Bobby's my favorite there because I think

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Speaker 1: it's very cool that Bobby Slowick was there for a while.

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Speaker 1: He coached, then he was there, then he went back

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Speaker 1: into coaching, and now we are reaping the benefits here

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Speaker 1: in Houston. But top wide receivers, according to them, those

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Speaker 1: people who evaluate things, even though some of them might

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Speaker 1: not be that season with football coaching, chops, sure, but

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Speaker 1: Bobby certainly was. Well, there are some people there who

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Speaker 1: are he types some things. It's interesting to get their perspective,

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Speaker 1: if nothing else.

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Speaker 2: So top wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: In the league right now, okay, the way they see it,

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Speaker 1: Number one, I'm gonna give it to you right now.

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Speaker 1: It's Justin Jefferson. He's got the big contract. No surprise there.

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Speaker 1: You think he's the best receiver in the NFL, above

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, who's number two. Yes, I think he's the

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Speaker 1: most pure receiver. I've always said this about Tyreek.

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Speaker 3: I see him more as an offensive weapon than I

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to short change him that because

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Speaker 3: I look at Justin Jefferson as pure receiver and the

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Speaker 3: and Texas are gonna face this year, I had Justin

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Speaker 3: Jefferson at number one. I just think he is He's

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Speaker 3: got the size, he's got the speed.

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Speaker 2: He can do it inside and outside.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he played his last year at LSU with

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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase and Terrace Marshall. He played the entire year

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Speaker 3: And people are like, well, you know he's a slot receiving. Like, No,

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Speaker 3: over the formation, he's been incredible. Now he's had Kirk

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Speaker 3: Cousins and and Kirk Cousins. Now he is going to

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Speaker 3: into his overall production?

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Speaker 2: I don't think it changes how great he is.

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Speaker 3: But I'm curious to see what his production level is

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Speaker 3: gonna end up being at some point. So he's going

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Speaker 3: matter of how does J. J. McCarthy come along. If

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Speaker 3: hundred passes, thirteen hundred yards, twelve touchdowns, have a great year,

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Speaker 3: continue to be number one. We play him, we bite

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Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill. My guest is Tyreek Hills number two. My correct,

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Speaker 3: he is number two, number two.

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Speaker 1: By the way, in Minnesota, Sam Donald could be the starter,

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Speaker 1: It's correct, until McCarthy's ready and Donalds can do some damage.

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Speaker 2: We see them week four, correct, Yeah, week four? We three?

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Speaker 1: Let me look it up with three. With three, Donald

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Speaker 1: be ready for that post. I always remember the twenty.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's beaten.

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Speaker 3: I mean he look he's not on the Jacobe Brussette level,

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Speaker 3: but he beat the Tech. He nearly beat the Texas

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Speaker 3: on Thursday night, he played one of his better games

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Speaker 3: here against US. In twenty twenty one, he had he

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Speaker 3: had a really good ball game, then really second half

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Speaker 3: pulled away from us. We'd gotten it somewhat close and

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Speaker 3: he pulled away with making some big plays both with

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Speaker 2: So when we've seen Sam Donald on the other side.

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Speaker 3: He's he's done some things to us which I don't like.

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Speaker 3: Now he's gonna have to learn new offense. He's probably

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Speaker 3: got some because of his travels throughout the league. He's

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Speaker 3: probably got some experience with it, but we're not careful

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Speaker 2: He's gonna step.

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Speaker 1: Up and make the make life miserable for us.

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Speaker 3: I know they want to get to J. J. McCarthy

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Speaker 3: Aston's possible well, but Sam Donald can do some things

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Speaker 3: success with him historically. But flip side is, although twenty

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Speaker 3: good twenty twenty four's defense. This defense this year should

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Speaker 1: McCarthy, Danielle Hunter is going to have eight sacks and

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Speaker 1: I hope so going back.

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Speaker 2: To week three, it's gonna be huge, all right.

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Speaker 1: So Jefferson number one on the PFF Wide receiver rankings,

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill number two, Jamar Chase number three, Texans face

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Speaker 1: three of the top four in the PFF rankings because

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Speaker 1: Ceedee Lambeah is number four. At some point Ceedee lamb

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Speaker 1: to expect he'd be there for that Monday night.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, that point in time will come if

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Speaker 3: Jerry sides to pay him. And yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 3: what the well they say deadline spur action. I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't know what their artificial deadline will be for that.

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Speaker 3: But seelamb will come into camp when he gets paid.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty much. It's as simple as that.

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Speaker 2: But you know in.

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Speaker 1: I think it was twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: He's coming out, and I just remember that was a

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Speaker 3: year I was I would say I was struggling trying

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Speaker 3: that dude catches the ball in sick ways and he

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Speaker 3: pretty good speed. He's number one, and I stuck with that,

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Speaker 3: and he's he's lived up. He's lived up to every

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Speaker 3: ounce of it. He's he's been incredible. Jamar Chase the

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Speaker 3: number three makes it makes a ton of sense. I

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Speaker 3: loved Jamar.

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Speaker 1: I think he's the highest rated receiver I've had until

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Speaker 3: So those have turned out. So we faced one, two,

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Speaker 1: Okay, but from five through ten, the Texans only face

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Speaker 1: one of these receivers ranked in the PFF Top thirty two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you have Aj Brown at five Eagles. God, we

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Speaker 1: don't face him exactly. What level of regret do you

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Speaker 1: think the Titans have over that deal?

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Speaker 2: A lot?

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Speaker 1: They could have paid up, could have kept him because

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Speaker 1: they're not paying a quarterback. Correct, they're not paying Derek

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Speaker 3: They should reasonably have had AJ Brown there. I don't

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Speaker 3: think the contract that AJ Brown signed with the Eagles

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Speaker 2: They very well could have given him.

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Speaker 3: What I have said about the Titans the last couple

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Speaker 3: of years is is if you trade AJ Brown, and

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Speaker 3: you I'm sorry, if you let you trade AJ Brown,

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Speaker 3: then you trade Kevin Bayard to the same team. Actually,

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Speaker 3: and then you let other guys walk to tear it down, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: tear it down. Get Jeffrey Simmons first, Get Jeffer Simmons

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Speaker 2: Instead, they've kind of gotten caught in.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, we're gonna we're gonna trade Byrd, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna trade J Brown, but we're gonna keep Jeffrey Simmons

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Speaker 1: and then we're gonna go sign DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 2: Then we're gonna pay.

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Speaker 1: Big money to Calvin Ridley, but then we're gonna roll

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Speaker 1: with Will Lops like not what.

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Speaker 2: Like none of it just doesn't doesn't make make sense.

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Speaker 1: And then they gave their big money to Simmons to

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Speaker 1: keep him around, Like what.

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Speaker 2: Are they doing?

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Speaker 1: I don't think they have a snowballs chance of finishing

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Speaker 1: higher than fourth in the division unless somebody gets really

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Speaker 1: decimated with injuries in the top three Colts, Jaguars, Texans,

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Speaker 1: So we'll see Devantae Adams of the Raiders number six

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Speaker 1: in these PFF receiver rankings. I'm on Ross Saint Brown

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Speaker 1: of the Lions. That's the one receiver between five and

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Speaker 1: ten in the Texans face. And it's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a Sunday night showdown Battle Red Night.

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Speaker 3: When I think about the guys that you have said

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Speaker 1: He doesn't throw the ball with that kind of accuracy

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Speaker 3: You know, Steph can be demonstrative on the sidelines when

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Speaker 3: And I think that's kind of the way that maybe

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Speaker 1: And he's six four two twenty. There's debos six foot

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Speaker 1: And I've thought about I've thought about that since and

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Speaker 3: Did a lot for Nico's impression for everybody else to see, like, hey,

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Speaker 3: woo boy, I need to pay attention to this Nico

438
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Speaker 3: Collins guy. Now, obviously people play paying fantasy football, so

439
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Speaker 3: they had plenty of games where they played Nico Collins

440
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Speaker 3: in one, so that helps. But for the nation to

441
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Speaker 3: see Nico in Week eighteen, I mean, obviously this see Stroud,

442
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Speaker 3: but they see to meet going this team.

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Speaker 2: But they saw twelve go off. Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think they were like ooh yeah, yeah, and you

445
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Speaker 1: don't want to keep going to Okay, it's justin Jefferson.

446
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Speaker 1: We know that, we know it's Tyreek Hill. You're looking

447
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Speaker 1: for the next one. Okay, well, okay, what about this

448
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Speaker 1: young They're in primetime week thirteen and he does something

449
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Speaker 1: like that, he might make the Pro Bowl? Oh my yes,

450
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Speaker 1: with everybody noticing, just putting together a thirteen hundred yard campaign.

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Speaker 1: So Nico and Digs both in the top fifteen. DeVante

452
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Speaker 1: Smith's sixteen in the PFF receiver rankings. That means the

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Speaker 1: Eagles get two in the top sixteen. That's DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 1: at seventeen. Yeah, no argument there, But I'm gonna scroll

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Speaker 1: down here. Johnny, we can get to the rest, but

456
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Speaker 1: I want to get to some complaints I have about

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Speaker 1: the PFF top thirty.

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Speaker 2: Two receiver rankings. Okay, they have rookies in here. You

459
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Speaker 2: can't do that.

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Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison junior number twenty one. You want to know

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Speaker 1: who he beat in this ranking?

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Speaker 2: Give me twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Give me twenty two, and twenty two is Keenan Allen.

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Speaker 1: Twenty three is jail and Waddle. Twenty four's DK Metcalf.

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Speaker 1: Then we have another rookie, Molik Neighbors of the Giants

466
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Speaker 1: at twenty five. Then we have Drake London of the Falcons. Okay,

467
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Speaker 1: Chris Olave Saints at twenty seven, Michael Pittman at twenty

468
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Speaker 1: eight five. But get this Rama Dunz from the Bears.

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Speaker 1: That means the Bears have three receivers in the top

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Speaker 1: thirty two of the PFF receiver rankings. Yep, wow, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna make aw You can't put guys, those three rookies.

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Speaker 3: You know how much I loved them. I was very

473
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Speaker 3: I was very high in it. But but no, you

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Speaker 3: can't know. That's an insult to these guys. T Higgins

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Speaker 3: is thirty two. You can't do that. You can't put

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Speaker 3: Rama doing say, ahead of T Higgins. You might say

477
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Speaker 3: he's going to be better, but you don't know. There's

478
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Speaker 3: no body of work. PFF an organization that prides itself

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Speaker 3: on data and research information gathered during NFL games. You

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Speaker 3: can't project this from their college tape that they're going

481
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Speaker 3: to do this.

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Speaker 1: Now, that's another listing, that's a projection. That's something else.

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Speaker 1: But this is PFF's thirty two wide receivers top thirty

484
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Speaker 1: two wide receivers. So I had a complaint about that,

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Speaker 1: other than the Texans being a team with two receivers

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Speaker 1: in the top fifteen, it's fine with that. Part of

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Speaker 1: it thinks, well, you know, Tank doesn't show up in

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Speaker 1: that listing, and look that. I think that's the strength

489
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Speaker 1: of this that's the strength of this position in the NFL.

490
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Speaker 1: Those three rookies are going to come in and I

491
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Speaker 1: don't want to say all three of them are going

492
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Speaker 1: to tear it up.

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Speaker 2: I mean they gotta stay healthy. I mean that's a

494
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Speaker 2: big deal. They got to stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: But I think they each have a pretty decent opportunity

496
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Speaker 1: to be the number one wide receiver on their squad

497
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Speaker 1: very very quickly.

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Speaker 3: With Marv Harrison in Arizona, that's for sure. Malie Dabers

499
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Speaker 3: the Giants is an absolute now. Romandons Day, like you said,

500
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Speaker 3: there are two other Bears receivers in front of him,

501
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Speaker 3: Keenan Allen, who you mentioned at twenty two, and then

502
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Speaker 3: you mentioned DJ Moore was up there.

503
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Speaker 2: DJ Moore is probably the most unrated receiver in this league.

504
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Speaker 3: He is incredible and nobody talks about him because the

505
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Speaker 3: Bears just Bears just can't get over that hump. They

506
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Speaker 3: can't get over that. You know, they were seven and ten.

507
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Speaker 3: I think for a couple of years. You know, Justin

508
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Speaker 3: Field is throwing him more last year and so he

509
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Speaker 3: ended up being the only target. But one name stood

510
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Speaker 3: out to me. Yes, we meet a couple of names

511
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Speaker 3: that are after Nico Collins. Nico is at fifteen, DeVante

512
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Speaker 3: Smith was sixteen, right, and seventeen months Hopkins, Okay, I

513
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Speaker 3: want to.

514
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Speaker 2: Go back to something real fast, just out of curiosity.

515
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Speaker 3: One year removed because we must say, I said, the

516
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Speaker 3: collective city of Houston. There's a lot of discussion because

517
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Speaker 3: hop last offseason of this past one, but the last

518
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Speaker 3: one in twenty twenty three, there were a lot of

519
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 3: posts on Instagram about Houston driving by Nrgy Stadium and

520
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 3: there was this kind of hubbub if you will, about

521
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Speaker 3: hop maybe coming back to the Texans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now, you and I were kind of like, I don't know,

524
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Speaker 3: I don't want to stunt the progress. You know, tanks

525
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Speaker 3: coming in. Nico's got to show some things. You got

526
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Speaker 3: a rookie quarterback. I don't know how all that's gonna work.

527
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Speaker 3: I kind of thought about it during the season, and

528
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Speaker 3: I thought about it after the season. And look, I'm very,

529
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Speaker 3: very happy with what the Texans have receiver now, there's

530
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Speaker 3: no question about that. But what if, what if the

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Speaker 3: Texans had signed Hop last year?

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Speaker 1: He would have caught a lot of passes. It would

533
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Speaker 1: have worked out fine. But it worked out fine anyway,

534
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Speaker 1: So I think, I don't want to word it, it

535
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Speaker 1: was a wash.

536
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Speaker 2: But because I'd love Hot, it was gonna work either way.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to see Hop back somehow. It would be

538
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Speaker 2: great for me, for you, you know.

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Speaker 1: Also what that's what CJ or Hop Hop? Yeah, I

540
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Speaker 1: think CJ would throw the ball to a lot of

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Speaker 1: different Yeah, who can get open or Hop is always

542
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Speaker 1: always because he's got people on him, but it he'll

543
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Speaker 1: catch the ball. So I think it would have worked

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Speaker 1: out fine. It just would have been different. Yeah, it

545
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Speaker 1: would have been a different look. These games might have

546
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Speaker 1: played out differently. Maybe they play out the same record wise,

547
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Speaker 1: but it goes down differently within the game. I think

548
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Speaker 1: it would have been fine. So I feel good about that.

549
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Speaker 1: You know what else I feel good about. I feel

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Speaker 1: good about CJ. Stroud being asked interesting questions like whose

551
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Speaker 1: career would you rather have? Eli Manning or Aaron Rodgers? Well,

552
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Speaker 1: what did he say about that? And then Johnny's gonna

553
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Speaker 1: pick which career he'd rather have among quarterbacks and other folks.

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Speaker 1: It's coming up next here on Texans Radio. Here we

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Speaker 1: are on a Tuesday having some funny air on Texans

556
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Speaker 1: Radio in the off season.

557
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Speaker 2: Mark vandermir John Harris with you. Well.

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Speaker 1: C J. Stroud was asked on a podcast whose career

559
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Speaker 1: would he rather have? Eli Manning or Aaron Rodgers? And

560
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Speaker 1: he picked the guy with the rings, and that would

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Speaker 1: be Eli Manning. Rodgers has one, Manning has two. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Manning's career overall in the regular season not nearly that

563
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Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers, who's still going strong here. Manning drafted

564
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Speaker 1: in four, Rogers drafted in five, cheez oh five just

565
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Speaker 1: a year later, and still going strong here. Well strong,

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Speaker 1: we'll find out. We'll find out about that. But Johnny, well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, you pick between those two guys, is

568
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Speaker 1: that what it's all about? I know it's all about

569
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Speaker 1: the rings. But Rodgers at least has won, and he's

570
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Speaker 1: had a much more productive career regular season wise, and

571
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Speaker 1: many more playoff appearances.

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Speaker 2: Than Eli Manning. What would you pick? It's always tough

573
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Speaker 2: because I've heard this question.

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Speaker 3: I think it was the late said Benson was asked

575
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Speaker 3: about many many years ago winning a national championship winning

576
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Speaker 3: a heisman and said he's kind of waited, a little bit, hesitating,

577
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Speaker 3: and he was like the heisman. Oh, and his reasoning

578
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Speaker 3: was pretty good. He's like, man, I'm in a select

579
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Speaker 3: fraternity forever. Obviously, the National championship.

580
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Speaker 1: Is a team a team goal that we all would

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Speaker 1: love to attain. And I think part of it is

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Speaker 1: because he you know, he didn't win the Heisman obviously,

583
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Speaker 1: and then he he played for No, he didn't play

584
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Speaker 1: for National Championship, but they were in a mix. But

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Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting that he picked that. I

586
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Speaker 1: think as time has gone on, it feels like more

587
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: people would pick the the individual. Oh, I'd want to

588
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Speaker 1: have Aaron Rodgers career, you know, with all the MVPs

589
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Speaker 1: and all those kind of things.

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Speaker 2: I've always been about rings. I've always been about Championship July.

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Speaker 2: The rest of it is so it's just not good.

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Speaker 3: It's just but you've got those you got those two rings,

593
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Speaker 3: and those two rings might be what ultimately gets Eli

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Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame. And here's the other thing.

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Speaker 3: I think people kind of gloss over a little bit

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Speaker 3: with Eli. Eli had success in New York. Yeah, name

597
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Speaker 3: a name a quarterback in the city of New York

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Speaker 3: that had a decent run of success. I mean people

599
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Speaker 3: will say Joe Namath and and Joe got his ring

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Speaker 3: back in his stage, you know.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, but Wyat Tittle did a lot of his

602
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Speaker 2: with the forty nine ers. No, I'm just joking. I

603
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: mean Phil Simms.

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Speaker 1: I guess Bill Sims won a super Bowl, you know,

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Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl and then had a lot of

606
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Speaker 1: productive years. He had productive years. But there are very

607
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Speaker 1: few quarterbacks that have succeeded in New York.

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Speaker 2: Then one of them the Jets. It's a dead zone.

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Speaker 1: Richard Todd, I hope it stays that O'Brian, Aaron Rodgers,

610
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Speaker 1: the drafting.

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Speaker 3: Sam Donald number three overall a few years ago, drafting

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Speaker 3: Zach Wilson three years later his number two overall. Neither

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Speaker 3: one of them are with the Jets, you know. I mean, oh,

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Speaker 3: barb went nine. Is seven there in a cup of

615
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Speaker 3: coffee situation?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Manny text messages.

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Speaker 1: Hey, then he brought them to an AFC Championship game

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Speaker 1: with Parcels coaching.

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Speaker 3: You hit it right there, the combination of veteran Vinnie

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Speaker 3: with Bill Parcells, And it was interesting watching the Two Bills,

621
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Speaker 3: the documentary by Bill Belichick and Bill Parcells.

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Speaker 2: They talked about how much.

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Speaker 3: Vinnie's injury the next year, So in ninety eight they

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Speaker 3: get to the AFC Championship. They come back in ninety

625
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Speaker 3: nine and they're rare to go. They got a lot

626
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Speaker 3: of people back, Keishawn Is at the height of Keishawn's powers,

627
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 3: still got Wayne Kubec, got a really nasty defense, John

628
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Speaker 3: Ellis and a number of guys on that side, like

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Speaker 3: they're ready to roll in the first game of the

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Speaker 3: year of Vinnie t Terris's his achilles.

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Speaker 2: Who played. I'm trying to remember who did go back in.

632
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Speaker 3: I know Pennington was drafted, but I think Pennington was

633
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Speaker 3: drafted for the year two thousand yea because he was

634
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Speaker 3: in the Bradys draft. So Pennington was the next year,

635
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Speaker 3: so they knew they needed a quarterback. But I can't

636
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Speaker 3: remember who they ended up replacing Vinnie with. But I

637
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Speaker 3: just remember them talking about that year that they scrapped

638
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Speaker 3: together Ray Lucas and Ricky Ray Lucas. That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 3: What was the record that year? They have scrapping through

640
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Speaker 3: a few wins? The record that year was eight and eight. Yeah,

641
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: they put together a few wins with Ray Lucas and

642
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Speaker 3: Rick Meyer, and they talk about that year being one

643
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Speaker 3: of the best that Bill Parcells as a coach I

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Speaker 3: ever had, just because he held it to play with

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Speaker 3: those two guys. And then, of course they get to

646
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Speaker 3: the year two thousand and that's when all hell breaks loose,

647
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 3: when Parcel steps away it's supposed to be Belichick. Belichick resigns,

648
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Speaker 3: he ends up with the Patriots, and well, the rest

649
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: is history at that point. But I think what CJ

650
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Speaker 3: said strikes me as what I love about CJ is

651
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Speaker 3: that the team accomplishments matter a whole heck of a

652
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 3: lot more than anything else.

653
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we love it and I love that

654
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: absolutely win the ring.

655
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: Baby.

656
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: All right, here are some other ones whose career would

657
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: you rather? Have you ready for the ease? Yeah, Russell

658
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: Wilson or Philip Rivers. Oh, I made it interesting. Rivers

659
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: so respected Wilson not as much, but played in two

660
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowls and.

661
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: Won a ring.

662
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: So he's got a ring and another Super Bowl appearance.

663
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: Rivers has none, but he's made it to a couple

664
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: of AFC Championship games, and everybody is mad for respec

665
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: for Rivers.

666
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: Whose career would you rather have?

667
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: This is so hard because I do want I do

668
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 3: want the ring, but I just don't know that I

669
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 3: would want Russell Wilson's career.

670
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: You don't want his reputation, Yeah, that's mainly I didn't.

671
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 3: I didn't want that because Rivers was so well respected.

672
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 3: He was so well loved by everybody. Everybody loved him

673
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 3: as a competitor, he was great as a micd up.

674
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: Everybody kind of looked at Russell I don't want.

675
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: If we're talking just strictly the career, I think I

676
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: would take Russell Wilson because he's got that stretch even

677
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl and the Super Bowl interception and

678
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: you know, Malcolm Butler and everything.

679
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: That stretch after that.

680
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 3: Was pretty darn good up until probably twenty nineteen, and

681
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: then the COVID year of twenty twenty, that's when it

682
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 3: starts to break down a little bit, because his body

683
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 3: started breaking down a little bit. I think I would

684
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: take Russell Wilson because having that Super Bowl and that

685
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 3: was a dominant Super Bowl win. Then the next year

686
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: they get back to the Super Bowl with that win,

687
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 3: or the Packers in the NFC Championship game with it

688
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: came from behind. I watched that game sometimes it pops

689
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: up an NFL network and I always stop and watch

690
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 3: it because that was such an incredible day and an

691
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: incredible game, the twenty fourteen NFC Championship. So I'm gonna

692
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stick true to it, and I'm gonna go

693
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 3: with Russell Wilson. But I just I always I always

694
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: loved facing Philip Rivers because I felt like he was

695
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 3: gonna keep us in the game at the same time

696
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 3: make it really really scary at the end for us.

697
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: You know, either way, depending on which side of it

698
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 3: you were on, you know, he was gonna keep you

699
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 3: in the ball game.

700
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: I can't remember that game in twenty nineteen. We go

701
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: to that Bandbox soccer stadium to play them in twenty nineteen,

702
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: and he's dealing and like we can't we can't stop

703
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: him early, but somehow we're staying in the game, staying

704
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: in the game, and then he makes one mistake. He

705
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: tries to scramble, he loses the ball, we end up scoring,

706
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: and now we're starting to pull away from him, and

707
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: he makes it interesting at the end, but there's just

708
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: not enough.

709
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: But you were scared to death because it was Philip Rivers.

710
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 2: I got that.

711
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 3: We got that feeld Russell Wilson in twenty seventeen when

712
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: we went up there and played him in Seattle and

713
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 3: we knew he got the ball with like two minutes left.

714
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: I remember the three of us like during a break,

715
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 3: we're like, oh man, can we hang on to this thing?

716
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: Is it gonna happen? Then we realized, nope, that's Russell Wilson.

717
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 3: So they both had kind of that you feared them

718
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 3: at the end of a game sort of thing.

719
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: But I think I'm gonna go with Russell Wilson. No,

720
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: that's the pick.

721
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: I just think that I don't know, maybe this is

722
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: the year that Russell. Maybe maybe this year that Russell

723
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: Mark finally realizes that it's over.

724
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: We'll see, maybe Russell maybe makes way for Justin Fields.

725
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: He retires after this year. Five years from now, he's

726
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: going into the Hall of Fame. He'll go.

727
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: I think he's gotta go.

728
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: I think you're going but it'll be interesting because of

729
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: how it ended. Yeah, that's gonna be tough. Yeah, but

730
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: if he strung me, like if he went nuts this

731
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: year for some reason, if he gets into the playoffs,

732
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: he's going he gets into the playoffs and then maybe

733
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: after that it dies down. But if he finds that

734
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: one last I mean, look, his numbers from last year

735
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: were I think the like twenty five and eight. That's

736
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: pretty good. Three to one touchdown ear such a ratio.

737
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: It's pretty good.

738
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: So if he has a good year with Pittsburgh, say

739
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: he goes nuts, thirty five touchdowns and ten interceptions, gets

740
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: them to the playoffs and Pittsburgh got this offense, if

741
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: people weren't talking about again, Yeah, I think I think

742
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: you could say, Okay, that that did it. He was

743
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: able to find it again, had two solid years to

744
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: end it. Yeah, I think that would do it all right?

745
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: Whose career would you rather have? Or playing off the

746
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: CJ question in that podcast, whose career would you rather have?

747
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 2: Dan Marino or Kurt Warner?

748
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: Ooh? Kurt Warner MVP Super Bowl Champion, played in two

749
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: others and one for the Cardinals that he lost, but

750
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: that got him into the Hall of fame.

751
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's making it.

752
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: If he doesn't have the resurgence with the Cardinals, I

753
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: don't know if he's making it to.

754
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: The Hall of Fame.

755
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Marino plays in one Super Bowl, loses it,

756
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: but has an illustrious career and is considered the greatest

757
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: quarterback to not win one, right, and did it with

758
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: one organization too. That's that's the other thing. I mean,

759
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: he's he he is. He is Miami Dolphins football for

760
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people, because especially for you know, people

761
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: still alive now, because there are not many people that

762
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: remember those those seventies Dolphins. They remember Dan Marino and

763
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: that he still, you know, speaks to them like he

764
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 1: is Miami Dolphins football.

765
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: To Tua, he's Uncle Danny now.

766
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: But this is so hard because I loved I loved

767
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: how Marino was.

768
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: Was tougher than people thought. I mean, he was just

769
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: a tough Pittsburgh guy.

770
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go with Warner because his story always

771
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: resonates with me. Were a movie of it, I know,

772
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: and exactly and not so much I would need a

773
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: movie made about my life. But the fact that he

774
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 1: overcame adversity, the way that he did going to Northern Iowa,

775
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: getting shout with the Packers didn't work out. He's got

776
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: to go back through arena football, He's got to go

777
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: to Amsterdam. Finally gets a shot when Trent Green goes down,

778
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: and then he runs one of the greatest offenses we've

779
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: ever seen, just out of.

780
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 3: Nowhere, like the cover of s I said, who's Kurt Warner.

781
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 3: But to me, that's adversity. But then when it dies

782
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 3: with the Rams and he goes to the Giants and

783
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 3: he's the guy that beget Eli Manning. I don't think

784
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 3: people forget that. And he knew he was gonna have

785
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: to step aside, so he knew what his role was.

786
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 3: And Eli talks about this a lot too. He talks

787
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 3: about how much Kurt helped him and how good Kurt was.

788
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 3: When they made the switch to Eli Manning, he was

789
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 3: gonna be the guy and Kurt. Eli talked about how

790
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 3: great a guy Kurt was. And Kirk gets this opportunity

791
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 3: out in Arizona. It's not really supposed to happen that way.

792
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 3: He's just supposed to help Matt Lioner. Warner takes over

793
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: and leads them to a Super Bowl. I mean it

794
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,959
Speaker 3: would have been storybouok Caddy had he won that one.

795
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,959
Speaker 3: But he led teams to three Super Bowls. He faced

796
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 3: all kinds of adversity.

797
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: Went over. I'm gonna go Kurt Warner. The other reason

798
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: that I would pick Marino is I always wanted to

799
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 2: do so. I always had.

800
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: Really I had a good arm, not to throw football,

801
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: but throw baseball. I had a strong arm. But damn,

802
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 3: Marino has arguably the greatest arm that we've seen in

803
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 3: all football. I mean, it's incredible arm. I would love

804
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 3: to be able to throw football like that.

805
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: You got to look at the highlights to see the

806
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: quick release, how the ball traveled.

807
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: Through the year.

808
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: He never sacked because he would just slide and zip,

809
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: slide and seep. But I'm gonna go Warner just because

810
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: he got. He overcame all adversity, and I love guys

811
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: that do that. And look, Marino did too. People forget

812
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: he was the twenty sixth pick in a draft that

813
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: was only twenty eight picks. He went to a good team,

814
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 1: went to a team that was coming off a Super

815
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: Bowl loss, so they had a lot going for them. Now,

816
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: they didn't have all that aerial stuff, but apparently they

817
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: did because they had the Marx brothers, yep, and they

818
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: were good to go. Joe Rose at tight end, our friend. Anyway,

819
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: you want an unfair one, Oh, fair, This is an

820
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: unfair question, as.

821
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: They've all been somewhat unfair.

822
00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 1: Whose career would you rather have, Reggie Wayne or Andre Johnson?

823
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: Now, oh, this is easy. I know this one isn't

824
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: as hard as I think.

825
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: Now listen up, all right, listen up, because you know

826
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm all about Dre and I'm Dre or die here.

827
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: But this is interesting in this way. Reggie Wayne is

828
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: a notch ahead of Andrea in receptions and yards all time.

829
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: All right, He's tenth, Andre's eleventh. Okay, Reggie Wayne has

830
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl ring and he played in another Super Bowl.

831
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: Reggie Wayne has been up for the Hall of Fame.

832
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 2: Yet I feel like Reggie.

833
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: Might wait a while for this because Marvin Harrison Senior

834
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: is going to hold him back and all the weapons

835
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: they have. By the way, Dallas Clark is going into

836
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: the Ring of Honor for the Colts this year.

837
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 2: Is that going to be during our game?

838
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: Of course it is. I don't know, but of course

839
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: it is. Don't you feel like it has to feel

840
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: like it. Probably that's opening day, so maybe not.

841
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. All right, but what do you think

842
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: of this Reggie Wayne Andre Johnson question?

843
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: This one.

844
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 3: It's easy to me because I always appreciate guys that

845
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: have done it in place where it was never done. Yeah,

846
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 3: if you think about Reggie Wayne, Reggie wasn't even the

847
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 3: number one wide receiver ons team.

848
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: Andre was the number one option, forever, number player. Yeah.

849
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 3: He was the number one guy at all times for

850
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: this team. And he did it in a place that

851
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 3: was bringing back football. So he was the first to

852
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 3: be that guy. And and look, some of that has

853
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 3: to do with timing and all that. I get that

854
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 3: that that Reggie didn't have that opportunity.

855
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: So had Reggie come here, we love, We would have

856
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 2: loved Reggie.

857
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 3: But I just I just think Andre was He was

858
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 3: so special, especially in comparison to Reggie Wayne. There are

859
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 3: probably some other receivers that would have made that a

860
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: little bit more difficult.

861
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: But I'm going Andre all day long. Okay, that's good.

862
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: All They've got one more for you, Okay, And the

863
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 1: whose career would you rather have?

864
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 2: Game?

865
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: Whose career would you rather have? Al Pacino or Robert

866
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: de Niro. Oh man, Now forget about de Niro's political

867
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: stuff or whatever.

868
00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: Just go with the acting career.

869
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Al Pacino, Robert de Niro, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,

870
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, what's your gut?

871
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 3: My gut tells me de Niro. And here this is

872
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 3: why I would say de Niro now Pacino man, because

873
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 3: some of my favorite like Pacino and his Sin of

874
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: a Woman.

875
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: With Chris O'Donnell. That is such a great movie. He's

876
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: so good.

877
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: Ah yeah, that he was great. I feel like de Niro.

878
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: De Niro did obviously, you know, the Good Fellas, you did,

879
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: the Mob movies and all that.

880
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 2: But then he did meet the parents, and he was brilliant.

881
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: Didn't meet the parents. It's a great take. De Niro

882
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: had more fun with it. It seems de Niro late

883
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: in his life.

884
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: I know, maybe some of these are money grabs, but

885
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: the intern with Anne Hathaway to meet the parents, franchise

886
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,959
Speaker 1: doing some comedy stuff, lighten up a little bit. Yeah,

887
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: but gino, what has he done that's funny or that's

888
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: that's why A Light of a Woman came gets close? Yeah,

889
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not but I mean it's the

890
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: closest thing you I think. Look, Pacino, you could argue

891
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: like in their day, the first fifteen years of their careers.

892
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: Pacino's got it. They're both in The Godfather. Yeah, Daniro's

893
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: in part two. So okay, I'll ask you this. So

894
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: so from Pacino, like Pacino walks in like you have

895
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: to present your case.

896
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: It's like me.

897
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 3: You put somebody else in here with the judge and jury,

898
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 3: and they've got to walk in and present their case

899
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 3: with a movie poster and and just all they can

900
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: do is present the movie poster.

901
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: One movie one movie. That's their case for the greatest

902
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: of all time. All right, So here's the thing. Here's

903
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna show. Because everyone knows Pacino from The Godfather,

904
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: they know old Pacino, older sense of a woman, everything

905
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: else he did.

906
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 2: I would show them Scarface. That's it.

907
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: That's my trump card because Scarface shows, oh my gosh,

908
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: he was that guy. And in Scarface he becomes that

909
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: character and they use a little bit of makeup and

910
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: but it's really not much. And he is Tony Montana

911
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 1: and to beat Tony Montana and to be Michael Corleone

912
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: and be so convincing in each one, And that's not

913
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: taking away anything from de Niro. I think Pacino is

914
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: the better actor. I think de Niro has had a

915
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: more fun career. De Niro often plays Robert de Niro.

916
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: Even in Casino, he's playing what's his name? Sam Rothstein,

917
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: But it still feels like Jimmy Conway in many ways.

918
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: What movie does de Niro walk in with his movie poster?

919
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: Just all he can do is show's the movie poster

920
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: and that's It's Raging Book. Yeah, which is a.

921
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: Hard watch still, but it's a brilliant movie.

922
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: All right, Coming up, we got a short segment, but

923
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna pretend that it's Friday before Opening Day. How

924
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: do you beat the opponent the horseshoe? Next on Texans Radio,

925
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: one more ride around the Block Tonight Here on Texans Radio,

926
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: Mark Vandermer and John Harris with you. All right, Johnny,

927
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: we've done a lot of fun stuff. Tonight, here's another

928
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: thing that's fun. I don't want to get too soteric,

929
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: but we'll probably get a little less sooteric. It's Friday

930
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 1: before Opening Day and Texans will take on the Colts

931
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: on Sunday noon. Kickoff game plan Friday. You got to

932
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: come up with the plan. Texans gotta do it again

933
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: beat Indy. This is their next regular season game after

934
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: their last regular season game back at the Horseshoe, and

935
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: you've got to find a way to slow down Anthony Richardson.

936
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: I'm gona assume he's gonna play in this game.

937
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: Yep. Do they open up again?

938
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: Could you imagine if they open up again with another

939
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: seventy five year bomb to Nicocollins and it connects.

940
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 3: Well, how often have we talked about that mark over

941
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 3: the years? You talked about, well, I gotta start fast,

942
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 3: gotta start fast, gotta start fast.

943
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: It's like, I mean, you kind of start fast.

944
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: I guess how many teams that we've seen that that's

945
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: the battle cry, and then they come out like I

946
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: can't get at the field goal range, never mind.

947
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: Three and out. It would be nice to start fast.

948
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 3: But it's funny as you were, as you were going

949
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 3: through that, I kind of feel like, all right, if

950
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: you're the put yourself in their shoes. What gave you

951
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 3: the most issue last year? Well, Nico and the passing game.

952
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 3: So I got a feeling you're gonna see a lot

953
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: of nickel from the Colts. So my first thing is

954
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 3: you want to establish the lont of scrimmage because you

955
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 3: got to hit Grover Stewart and Forrest Buckner right in

956
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 3: the face. And if you hit them with a run

957
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: game that's reeling off three, five, seven, you know, nine

958
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 3: yards of pie, You're just you're taking chunks of yards.

959
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 3: You're keeping Taylor on the sideline, You're keeping Richardson on

960
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: the sidelines. You're putting more pressure on them with the

961
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: run game. That's really kind of taking over the game,

962
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 3: which would be kind of nice.

963
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: Uh. And you've got a guy that can.

964
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 3: Do that with Joe Mixon, that would be that would

965
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: be awesome to get that established. If you can't, because

966
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 3: all right, they're adapting. They're gonna play a third linebacker.

967
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 3: All right, let's slow football. Let's go ahead and throw

968
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 3: it because ultimately you're not gonna be able to stop you.

969
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 3: So I think it's gonna be interesting how Bobby Slow

970
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 3: puts together the offense this year. Is it the run

971
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 3: to set up to throw. Is he gonna throw to

972
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 3: set up to run, or is he just gonna play. Hey,

973
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 3: they're in they're in big nickel or they're a nickel

974
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 3: or dime. Let's run the football here. We can run

975
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 3: this out of eleven personnel. We can run this out

976
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 3: of ten personnel. We're gonna be able to do things

977
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 3: that we haven't been able to do, to have done before,

978
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 3: which is gonna be fun to watch. But it's gonna

979
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: be interesting to see how Bobby puts it all together defensively.

980
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 3: To me, it's a simple it's a simple concept. Do

981
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 3: you remember it was the second it was? It was

982
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 3: the second touchdown the Colt score. Do you remember how

983
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 3: they scored it? That's second touchdown? Do you remember what happened?

984
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 2: Wait?

985
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 3: The one that he ran in Bingo? What Anthony Richson do?

986
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 3: Gave a fake? Got everybody going that way? And then

987
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 3: what do you do?

988
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: Right up the middle?

989
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: Booted out the other way he booted out, but then

990
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: he went straight ahead right.

991
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 3: There should be somebody hitting Anthony Richardson every time he

992
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: turns around.

993
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: So don't any boot fake. I don't care. Stay on him.

994
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: You gotta ask if he's all alone without a football

995
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: him You absolutely you cannot let him been out it

996
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: and and and the thing is the Texans actually defensed

997
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: it probably like you should. Will Anderson taking off down

998
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: the line, scrimmag chasing running back swapped responsibilities with Denzel Perriman.

999
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 2: It's just the Colts blocked it perfectly.

1000
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 3: They block Periman and all of a sudden, because a

1001
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 3: lot of action safeties are going towards the running back,

1002
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 3: there's really no secondary support there goes Richardson. This has

1003
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 3: got to be a We're gonna hit Richardson with everything

1004
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 3: we have. We're gonna make that shoulder feel it. So

1005
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 3: that third fourth quarter when he's going back there to

1006
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 3: throw every throw, he's wincing a little bit because he's

1007
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 3: just taking one shot after another. You know, I'm not

1008
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 3: saying me, you'll be cheap about it, be dirty where

1009
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 3: you just take this dirty.

1010
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying every time there's a bootleg, every time there's

1011
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: a play action fake, every time he goes back to throw,

1012
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 1: somebody hitting him.

1013
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: At all time. To be CAO, I know you do.

1014
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: But when he steps out, now a sudden, Joe Flacco

1015
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: goes back there, and you know where Flacco is going

1016
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: to be in that pocket, and now all of a sudden,

1017
00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: your pass rush.

1018
00:46:59,160 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: Can get there.

1019
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 3: So to me, it is hitting Anthey, especially when he runs.

1020
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 3: When he runs with the football, you need to hit

1021
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 3: him with two three guys as much as possible. Take

1022
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 3: that run game away, Make those coaches in the side

1023
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 3: and go, hey, hey, hey, remember how you got hurt

1024
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 3: last year we got we gotta slow that down. Take

1025
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 3: that part of the game away by being as physical

1026
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 3: as possible.

1027
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: Speaking of hitting people, can I ask you a completely

1028
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: unrelated question.

1029
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 2: I've never hit anybody?

1030
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: All right, so no, but you haven't a football on

1031
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: football in a football context. You have, so you know

1032
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: those padded helmets that they were on what is it

1033
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: OT seven on NFL network, Yeah, flag football. Yes, they're

1034
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: just kind of the padding like an extended guardian.

1035
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 2: It's almost like the same stuff that the guardian.

1036
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: It's not even as thick as a guardian cap because

1037
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: you don't have the helmet underneath it. What if they

1038
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: play I'm not saying this should happen, but if you

1039
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: had that kind of padding, the thickness of an actual helmet,

1040
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't that be better than the helmet? Because now, if

1041
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: you hit somebody with your head or happen to collide,

1042
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: there's way it's just padding. Is there's no hard shell

1043
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: to create that contact. It does not look as good,

1044
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: but we're headed there man if people are allowed to

1045
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: wear Guardian caps and games, which they are now, we're

1046
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: headed there anyway. That's the thought for another day. We

1047
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: got to stop the show, stop the show, stop the

1048
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: show because Area forty five is coming up and we

1049
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: can't wait. And we'll be back tomorrow with Andre Ware

1050
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: on the program, among other things this week on Texans Radio.

1051
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: Have a good night, Go Texans.