1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, I'm strong 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: and and he Armstrong and Eddy. 4 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: Then Daya's here and Dana you were incredible in Dune. 5 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I woke up for all of your scenes. 6 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: You are so good. And Challengers Girl, Oh my god, 7 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: it was so good. I mean that movie was more 8 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 2: sexually charged than Diddy's Credit Card. I mean, seriously. Oh no, no, 9 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: I know, I'm sorry. I'm upset to the after party 10 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: is not going to be as good. 11 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: This year, but we have to move on. I know 12 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: what Stanley. 13 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: Tucci freakoff just doesn't have the same ring to it. 14 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: But no baby oil this year, just lots of olive oil. 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: Okay, So comedian Nicki Glazer hosting the Golden Globes, which 16 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: you didn't watch last night, which is a precursor to 17 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 3: the Oscars, which. 18 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: You will not watch. I'm not at gunpoint, but the whole. 19 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: P Diddy thing, everybody there in the audience probably knew 20 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: what was going on at those parties, maybe had friends 21 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: who went, and similar to Harvey Weinstein, they all just 22 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 3: kept their mouth shut because that's the way that industry is. 23 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: I guess, at the risk. 24 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 4: Of going off on a time consuming tangent, I think 25 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 4: the takeaway from this those jokes, and she's a comedian. 26 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 4: She makes jokes about things including uncomfortable maybe you know, 27 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 4: imply chokes, which is fine. 28 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: Not too many years ago, if. 29 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 4: You were to ask a co worker out right, or 30 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 4: you were out for drinks and said, you know, we 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 4: ought to get coffee sometime, I really enjoy talking to you. 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: You were a monster. 33 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 4: How dare you use your male patriarchal privilege or power 34 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 4: or something something vague something You're part of rape culture, 35 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 4: believe all women, believe all women something something, And now 36 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 4: a guy who was sanctioning and enforcing rape after rape 37 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 4: is a punchline that everybody giggles at, you know, kind 38 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 4: of uncomfortably, but they're giggling. 39 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: I think to take. 40 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 4: Away is the woke Hollywood passion of the moment is 41 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 4: just fine to mock and ignore. 42 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: It's just fine. 43 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, speaking of witch thinking of things to be speaking 44 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: of things to be mocked and ignored. I will tell you, 45 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 4: just to establish my bona fides as a reporter on 46 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 4: this story, the Surgeon General Vivek Mercy out with a 47 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 4: warning that alcohol, any consumption of alcohol, is a cancer risk, 48 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 4: and there should be warnings on the labels, and beware, beware, beware. 49 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: I am a drinking man. 50 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 4: I enjoy the pleasures of alcohol on a reg basis, 51 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 4: a daily basis, more or less, although I've been sober 52 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 4: for the best part of a week just to reset 53 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 4: the body and the mind, and so I am very, 54 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 4: very curious. I like it a great deal. Actually, yeah, 55 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 4: I don't look at it as not drinking. I look 56 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 4: at it as sobriety and the opportunity to do different 57 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 4: things in different ways and just let my poor liver 58 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 4: rest for a minute. Ever since my upbringing in the eighties, 59 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: playing rock and roll and everything, there were drugs everywhere, 60 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 4: and drugs on campus like crazy. And I always queue 61 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 4: to the philosophy of know what you're putting in your 62 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 4: body and and be smart about it. Don't be the 63 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 4: moro on who just takes something because somebody offered it 64 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 4: to you. And alcohol is the same way. I'm really 65 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: curious to know the good and bad of alcohol, So 66 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 4: I dug into this. 67 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: Here's what you need to. 68 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: The good is people are less boring and everybody's hotter. 69 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: That's the good. 70 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: Oh, and I don't hate being here, not here there. 71 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 4: Right. 72 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 3: The good of alcohol is I don't hate this gathering 73 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: near as much as I would if I didn't have alcohol. 74 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 4: I see Jesus at the right hand of God way 75 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 4: back in the day saying, hey, hey, boss, what are 76 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 4: we going to do their? Dad? Dad? What are we 77 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 4: going to do for the introverts? There anything we can 78 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: do for well? I suppose we could make it so 79 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 4: that when when fruit fermented, it made you feel less angsty. 80 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: That's funny. 81 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 3: A friend of mine who's doing dry January had a 82 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 3: big social gathering they had to go to and make 83 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: texted me, this is so boring it's killing. 84 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: Anyway. Where will we ah? 85 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 4: Yes, the Search in general, So, the Search in General 86 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 4: said alcoholic beverages should carry cancer warnings to increase awareness. 87 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 4: The drinks are the leading cause of preventable cancers. Are 88 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 4: a leading cause. I should say that would take it 89 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 4: back to Congress, But he said in his statement, alcohol 90 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 4: is a well established preventable cause of cancer, responsible for 91 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 4: about one hundred thousand CAUs cases of cancer and twenty 92 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 4: thousand cancer deaths annually in the United States, yet the 93 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 4: majority of Americans are unaware of this risk. They say 94 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 4: alcohol consumption is the third leading preventable cause of cancer 95 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 4: in the US, after tobacco and obesity. Link between alcohol 96 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 4: consumption cancer risk has been established for at least seven 97 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 4: kinds of cancer, including breast, colorectal, esophagus, liver, mouth, throat, 98 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 4: and voice box mirthy sad. 99 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: Okay, Now, the perspective. 100 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 4: For women consuming less than a drink per week, meaning you're. 101 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: A non drinker. 102 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 3: If you consume less than a drink per week, well 103 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: I consider you a non drinker. 104 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 4: Well yeah, yeah, the absolute risk of developing an alcohol 105 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 4: related cancer is around seventeen percent of what it doesn't 106 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 4: make clear That risk increases to about twenty two percent 107 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 4: for women consuming two drinks a day. 108 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: My god, So wait, so you go from a non. 109 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 4: Drinker at seventeen percent to a to a day and 110 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 4: you get to twenty two percent. 111 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: And there's probably a margin of error with the whole 112 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 3: the whole thing, just because of all research. 113 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: You know, it takes a while to. 114 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 4: Right, so it's less than a third of a tiny number. 115 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 4: For then the risk increases from ten percent to thirteen percent. Wow, 116 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 4: that again, less than a third. We learned this a 117 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 4: long time ago doing this job. When you hear the 118 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 4: drive by health study stuff, this is the most common 119 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 4: thing they do. It's an increase of not much to 120 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 4: tiny bit more than not much, and then all the 121 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 4: media runs with it as a big deal. 122 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 3: Coke can call you, I remember when soda was a 123 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: coc col can call you as a cancer. 124 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: And you know so, lab rats. 125 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 3: Who were force fed sixty cases of coca cola all 126 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 3: day long had a slightly larger chance of getting cancer 127 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: than those of drank none. Okay, that's not worth mentioning 128 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 3: at all, Yet it can be a big story. 129 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 4: Or if something or other causes a third higher incidence 130 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 4: of cancer and the just to take a ridiculous example, 131 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 4: but the incident's cancer is one in ten thousand. Well 132 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 4: a third hire is one point three out of ten thousand, 133 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 4: which you know cancer is no choke obviously, but in 134 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 4: Austraia numbers moderate drinkers have a note he had cancer. 135 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: He gets to make that joke. 136 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 4: Moving on, moderate drinkers have a one point eight fold 137 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 4: high risk of developing oral cavity and throat cancers. Now 138 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: I will tell you this asaphageal cancer if you are 139 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 4: a heavy drinker, and we'll get into this in a bit, 140 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 4: some of the mouth and throat cancers. If you are 141 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 4: a heavy drinker, there is a significant risk for terrible 142 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 4: forms of cancer. A person I cared about very much 143 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 4: passed away from one of those cancers, and he knew 144 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 4: his way around alcohol. 145 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: We'll leave it. 146 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 4: There, but a saphageal drinking alcohol at any level is 147 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 4: linked with an increased risk of developing cancer in the esophagus, 148 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 4: ranging from one point threefold higher just a third higher 149 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 4: for light drinkers to fivefold for heavy drinkers. 150 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: So just don't be a heavy drinker. How do they 151 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: define heavy drinker in this study? You know, you know, 152 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: I don't think they nail it down exactly. 153 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: The heavy might be a Tuesday afternoon in my opinion. 154 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, well, and and God bless you for it. Ah. 155 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 4: And by the way, all of these numbers, all of 156 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 4: them are absolutely dwarfed by cigarettes, clearly. But obesity, obesity, man, 157 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: what are we talking about? 158 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: Alcohol? And a kidding, no kidding, So great perspective. 159 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 4: Moving on sort of from Alicia Finley, who writes for 160 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 4: The Wall Street Journal and is terrific. She points out, 161 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 4: Surgeon General Vivek Murthy has done more to politicize science 162 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 4: in a road trust in public health leaders than anyone 163 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 4: other than Anthony freaking foul O Chi. And he did 164 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 4: it again with the alcohol cancer stuff. Again worth knowing 165 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 4: heavy drinking increases your risk. Two weeks before he shot 166 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 4: off his mouth, the National Academies of Sciences Engineering in 167 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 4: Medicine released a congressionly mandated review of the recent evidence 168 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 4: on the health effects of moderate drinking or up to 169 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 4: one drink a day for women two for men. It's 170 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 4: more than two hundred pages of findings run counter to 171 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 4: Mrthy's twenty two page report, and they got absolutely no 172 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 4: attention or practically no attention in the press. The Academy 173 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 4: has found insufficient evidence to support a link between moderate 174 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 4: drinking and oral fare and geal esophagus, laryngel, and other cancers. 175 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 4: It did find a slightly higher risk of breast cancer 176 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 4: with moderate drinking, but also a lower risk of death 177 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 4: generally and from cardiovascular disease specifically compared with never drinking. 178 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: You also should factor enjoyment of life. How boring most 179 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: people are, life didn't suck as much, so you got 180 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: to factor that in, and Finley points out that for 181 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: some cancers, quote evidence shows that this risk may start 182 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 3: to increase while around one or fewer drinks per day. 183 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: Notice the operative word may no kidding. Wow. 184 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 3: So I was gonna blame the media most of the time, 185 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 3: this is a media thing. You can't blame the scientists. 186 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: It's their job to study, you know, to pop tarts 187 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 3: give you cancer or something like that. 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Doctor Oz? 228 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: He's ahhs, isn't he? 229 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: I thought that's what RFK Junior was going to be. 230 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: We actually we should nail that down. 231 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 4: He gets inaugurated in fourteen days. What are you going 232 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 4: to do in the interim with that knowledge? 233 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: We'll figure it out. 234 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: We'll have that for you when you come back. Many 235 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: of you are screaming at the radio, Hey, you knuckleheads. 236 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: This person's this and this person's that. But I wonder 237 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 3: how they feel about this warning labels on booze or whatever. 238 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 3: The New Orleans terrorist attack. How big a deal is this? 239 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 3: Do we have terrorist cells active in the United States 240 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: or whatever? FBI director thinks, so the government thinks. So 241 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 3: a bunch of stuff on the way. I hope you 242 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: can stay here. So we were just talking about the 243 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 3: fact that the current surgeon general is talking about a 244 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: warning label on ALP like they have on cigarettes because 245 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 3: of a study about cancer and everything like that. And 246 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 3: we got another conversation because the current surgeon general is 247 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 3: in office for a few more days and the new 248 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 3: administration takes over and we're talking about who's what now? 249 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 3: And I didn't even remember, but one thing. Looking at 250 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 3: the list of all Trump's nominees, there are so many 251 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 3: layers of just the health thing. And that's one of 252 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: the problems we have is so RFK Jr. Is is 253 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: Health and Human Services Secretary, Okay, as opposed to this 254 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 3: guy who Jay however he pronounce his name, who's the 255 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 3: head of the NIH National Institutes of Health. Okay, what 256 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 3: is that compared to what RFK Junior is going to do. 257 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 3: Then you have got Jim O'Neil who's going to be 258 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 3: the Health Deputy. Then you've got veteran stuff around health, 259 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: which is a huge part of the budget and a 260 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 3: lot of the whole health infrastructure. Then you have a 261 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 3: Surgeon General who's a different person, and then an HHS 262 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: Secretary which has a bit That department has a bigger 263 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,239 Speaker 3: budget than the Pentagon. 264 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: And these are all different people. 265 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 4: Ha And you left out the Centers for Disease Control 266 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 4: right right left out CDC. 267 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 3: So okay, I'll bet you get into one of those jobs, 268 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 3: and you'd think, how does this even square with the 269 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 3: fifteen other giant organizations that are in charge of this? Also, 270 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: what if I did nothing right, would anybody notice? Like 271 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 3: for a year I'm going to do nothing for a 272 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 3: year and see if anybody says anything. I'm looking up 273 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 3: at CBS right now, new alcohol warning, and they're taking 274 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: it completely seriously. 275 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: Joe is here to tell us no. Yeah. 276 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 4: Doctor Mercy claims that alcohol use quote not only abuses 277 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 4: a leading preventable cause of cancer in the United States, 278 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 4: contributing to nearly one hundred thousand cancer case about to 279 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 4: twenty thousand cancer deaths each year. That estimate is based 280 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 4: on models of associations from cherry pick to observational studies. 281 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 4: Even the report partially attributes only seventeen percent of these 282 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 4: estimated deaths to moderate drinking, so almost all of its 283 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 4: heavy drinking and of the cancer deaths in twenty three, 284 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 4: that would mean modern drinking contributed to contributed to thirty 285 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 4: four hundred, or about six tenths of one percent. Doctor 286 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 4: Murphy's claims about alcohols cancer risks are misleading, but typical 287 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 4: of his reports, which are intended to drive a political agenda. Then, 288 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 4: Alicia Finley from The Wall Street Journal explains, let's review 289 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 4: the role. First Advisory in twenty twenty one declared health 290 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 4: misinformation a serious threat. It warned that and I'm quoting 291 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 4: misinformation has caused confusion and led people to decline COVID 292 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 4: nineteen vaccines, reject public health measures such as masking and 293 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 4: physical distancing, and use unproven treatments. So there he was 294 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 4: cracking down on, among other things, Jay Batticharia and the 295 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 4: Great Barrington Declaration, which was right about everything. The Surgeon 296 00:15:55,760 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 4: General urged tech companies to quote strengthen the monitoring of misinformation, quote, 297 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 4: prioritize her early detection of misinformation super spreaders and repeat 298 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 4: offenders like Battachari and his cohort there in the Great 299 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 4: Barrington Declaration, and quote redesigned recommendation algorithms to avoid amplifying misinformation, 300 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 4: in other words, censor COVID views that he and Fauci 301 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 4: didn't like. Next came Murthy's twenty twenty two report on 302 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 4: Workplace Mental Health, which was informed quote by the voices 303 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 4: of many workers and unions. 304 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: It was a push. 305 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 4: For a living wage before overtime tips and commissions, also 306 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 4: family leave, and all sorts of left wing workplace prescriptions. 307 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: That was it. 308 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 4: Then there was the twenty twenty three Advisory on our 309 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 4: Epidemic of Loneliness and Isolation, which came to the forefront 310 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 4: of public consciousness during the pandemic, never mind that Murthy's 311 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 4: promotional lockdowns caused the problem. To improve social connection, he 312 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 4: advised increased access to public transit. What a load of cracks. 313 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 4: I'm I'm so glad the Biden administration about gone, and 314 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 4: I won't even get in. We don't have time for 315 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 4: firearm violence. So public health crisis in America that recommended 316 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 4: a ban on ill defined assault weapons or restriction on 317 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 4: concealed and open carry permits, and increasing criminal liability for 318 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 4: shooting a firearm after being attacked if you could have 319 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 4: safely retreated, that's a quote. So not gang bangers and 320 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 4: gun slingers in our cities that cause the vast vast 321 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 4: majority of the murders and which progressive prosecutors don't prosecute. No, 322 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 4: it's somebody in their own home who's a scumbag is terrorizing. 323 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 4: You can't shoot them if you could have retreated, that's 324 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 4: vivek mercy for you. 325 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: Goodbye. Don't let the door hit you on your healthy ass. Anyway, 326 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: I was in Washington, D C. 327 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 3: When the terrorist attack in New Orleans hit, So man, 328 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 3: they sure ramped up security there. Oh, I got to 329 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: talk about New Year's even Washington, DC. Also that was 330 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 3: something I know. A bunch of stuff on the way 331 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: and you can Texas anytime for one KFTC. If you 332 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 3: miss a segment in an hour, you can get our podcast. 333 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: It's Armstrong and Getty on demand. You should subscribe and 334 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 3: then you'd get it every single day. 335 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: That's an excellent idea. 336 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 4: That's your new New Year's resolution, eACT subscribe Armstrong and Getty. 337 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: First, a goal in sign run for KIMS. 338 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 3: Still going to the gold number four on the night. 339 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 2: One night to remember round Nut Guy ties the Lions record. 340 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 3: For touchdowns in a game, maybe in a season a 341 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 3: lot of years. The Lions stomped to the Vikings as 342 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 3: what they were calling the most consequential last game of 343 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 3: the season in NFL history because they were playing for 344 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 3: the winner got the number one seed in the NFC 345 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 3: home field advantage throughout. The loser is the five seed 346 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 3: and plays the next week. That was a pretty consequential game, 347 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: but wasn't even close. 348 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: Playoff football is upon us. 349 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 3: Hala hala, Yeah, no, kidd, and the uh you can 350 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 3: google it anywhere, but the uh. 351 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: The brackets are all set for next weekend. 352 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 4: I hope everybody had a good holiday time. I hope 353 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 4: you had a little time off to relax. 354 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: I did. 355 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 4: It was fantastic spend mostly just family time, I did. 356 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 3: I did have that time off. No relaxing, Yeah, oh 357 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 3: it was very very relaxing. A lot of good visiting 358 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: and played a lot of cribbage that sort of thing. Also, 359 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: I had an experience that inspired me. I've been writing 360 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 3: songs again, and I've written what I believed to be 361 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 3: And Katie, you might enjoy this. 362 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 4: The worst Christmas song of all time. It's based on 363 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 4: a true story. I'm still working on the melody. It's 364 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 4: a little rough. I went to Urgent Care on Christmas 365 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 4: Eve to get a tick removed. It burrowed into my 366 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 4: skin the way you burrowed into my heart. 367 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: That's just that's all I got so far. No, that's 368 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: based on a true story, based on a true story. Yes, yes, urgent. Wow, 369 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: this is some urgent ca for a tick. What was that? 370 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 3: What was that reality show that was hot for a 371 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 3: while with the little heavy girl and everything like that, 372 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 3: Mama June, what was that? 373 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,479 Speaker 1: Right? Honey boo right now? 374 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have very honey booboo lifestyle going on. Here, 375 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 3: we're you're going to your care to get a tick removed. 376 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 4: If someone gave me a pop quiz of who on 377 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 4: this show is going to get a tick removed over break, 378 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 4: it wasn't Joe. 379 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Let's you know. I tried. I try to be surprising. 380 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: Who was going to be disappointed in their chardonnay? Joe? 381 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: Who is going to get a tick removed? Got a parasite? Well, 382 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: so I know you know you. 383 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 4: Out doorsy type. He's saying, you don't need to go 384 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 4: to urgent care. Here's the here's the deal. I assue 385 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 4: I get out of the shower. I'm walking out of 386 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 4: the shower with my my arnold schure saying, you're like 387 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 4: a physique just glistening in the water. You can imagine. 388 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 4: And uh and and my bride who's in there, said 389 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 4: is that new? And she like points to my side 390 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 4: and I've got like a nasty looking sore And I'm like, yeah, 391 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 4: what the heck? 392 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: Because I was totally unaware of it. Is that a new? 393 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 3: So is that with all your other older sores? 394 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 4: Actually, I've been so carved up by my dermatologist. 395 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: It looks like I've been in a gunfight. 396 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 4: So but anyway, so yeah, it turns out to be 397 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 4: a tick, and you know, we we administered the various 398 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 4: getting ticks out techniques and you're like, all right, and 399 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 4: she said, all right, now I can get it, and 400 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 4: she he's the tweezers and just manages to like pull 401 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 4: its legs off, and so off to the urgent care went. 402 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 4: It was terrible tortures. Yaw long it was there, probably 403 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 4: not long. I actually think I remember when it got 404 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 4: on me through the. 405 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: Woods since his last coon hunt. Ain't nothing wrong with 406 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: coon hunt. 407 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 3: He's back in the holler making shine, and he went 408 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 3: on a coon hunt and he got ticks Garcie usually 409 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 3: and his daddy's breeches because he's got none of his own. No, 410 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 3: it's so anyway, that was an unfortunate and you get 411 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: there and of course you're thinking, oh good, there's only 412 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 3: two people in front of you. Then inexplicable you're still 413 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: sitting there in forty five minutes. 414 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 4: But anyway, so that was fine. It was dealt with, 415 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 4: and then we moved on with our lives. And I 416 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 4: took a bunch of antibiotics to make sure I don't 417 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 4: get lime disease. 418 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 1: Oh boy, you don't want that. Oh no, no, I hear. 419 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: It's a horror. Antibiotics can keep you from getting lime disease. 420 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: I didn't know that if you jump on it in time. 421 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 4: There's one particular that they recommend as a prophylactic, which 422 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 4: I hammered down. 423 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 3: So so the New Orleans guy, we got some text 424 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 3: about the alcohol thing, but I'll save that for a 425 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 3: little bit later. The knew should it have a cancer 426 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: warning thing? New Orleans guy. So this I was on 427 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 3: the East coast. We're in Washington, d C. For New 428 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 3: Year's Eve, which we went to a Gordon Ramsay restaurant. 429 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 3: I was trying to figure out where to go eat 430 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 3: and we went very early so we were able to 431 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 3: get in. Everybody was super dressed up. We were dressed 432 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 3: like tourists and felt kind of out of place because 433 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 3: you know, a lot of women in little black skirts 434 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 3: and high and guys and suits and stuff because it 435 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 3: was New Year's even there wanting to be special and 436 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 3: we were dressed like tours So luckily we were eating 437 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 3: early and getting out there. 438 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: The bill was insane. No I did that place was 439 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: so expensive. 440 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 3: AnyWho, we get we get back to the hotel early 441 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 3: my kids like on New Year's Eve to eat junk food, 442 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 3: and we flipped around the channels and watched all the 443 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 3: TV shows we're watching. We're watching Dick Clark's Rocking New Year, 444 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 3: New Year's Eve with Ryan Seacrest and flipping over to 445 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 3: Anderson Cooper getting drunk with his gay buddy on CNN 446 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 3: where they do vodka shots all night long and all 447 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: that sort of Stuff'm flipping around and they just giggle 448 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 3: and just nonsense, and mostly wonder who watches this craft 449 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,479 Speaker 3: other than like the really really sad who have no friends, 450 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 3: and I don't even know who could be good Bob 451 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,959 Speaker 3: possibly be watching this stuff? 452 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 4: Could it be that the entire audience for the show 453 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 4: is ironic? I wonder that myself, every single person is 454 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 4: wondering who the hell watches this? 455 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 3: Almost almost every musical act is either the has been 456 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 3: like you know, the Jackson's We're on the Rock in 457 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 3: New Year's Eve for instance. 458 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: Some Jackson, I mean Everybody's eighty or some up and 459 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: comer you've never heard of. 460 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 3: Anyway, it's New Year's Eve at the hotel and it 461 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 3: turns twenty twenty five and nobody's keys work, So every 462 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: single person coming back to their room at this giant hotel, 463 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 3: couldn't get into the room. And there's like two security 464 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 3: people with passes, you know, the the key into the room. 465 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,719 Speaker 3: Sid they had to go one by one, every single 466 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 3: human to their room to get him into the room. 467 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 3: What a y two k sort of stupidity thing that 468 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 3: is from a major hotel chain. How could you make 469 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: a mistake like that where oh, we didn't have a 470 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 3: new system when they could ever be not twenty twenty four, 471 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 3: We didn't think of programming as anyway minor norts, right, 472 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: But so we get to bed and we missed hearing 473 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 3: the story till the next morning about the guy ram 474 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 3: in his Ford f one fifty lightning into the crowd 475 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 3: that he had rented and killing a whole bunch of 476 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 3: people and turned out to be Isis. And then, however, 477 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 3: many hours was later the Tesla, another electric vehicle, blowing 478 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 3: up or attempting to blow it up there in Las 479 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 3: Vegas in front of Trump Tower. And for a while 480 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 3: there the media coverage really had them linked. 481 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 4: Right, In fact, they said specifically they were linked for 482 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 4: a moment, right. 483 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 3: And then the FBI early on said that they were 484 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 3: investigating three other people that had placed bombs somewhere, and 485 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 3: so it's starting to look like a fairly big plot there. 486 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: In the early hours. 487 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 3: Joe and I are big on the don't believe anything 488 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 3: you hear in the first twenty four hours on any 489 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 3: of these sorts of things, which is more true now 490 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: than it was the first time we ever said it. 491 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 3: There's almost there's almost no reason point in reacting to 492 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: any of the stuff you hear on these kinds of 493 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: stories school shootings, mass shootings, terrorist attacks, whatever, because so 494 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 3: much of it turns out to not be true. 495 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 4: Wouldn't you say, yeah, it might be true, but it 496 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 4: might not. It's practically random, it's a coin flipping. 497 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 3: There's certainly no point and going off on a like 498 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 3: both presidents did some long screed about the information at 499 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 3: the time, because who knows how it's gonna turn out. 500 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 3: It turns out they're not linked at all. The FBI 501 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 3: now says, and I know a lot of you don't 502 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 3: believe it that they're covering for something that the FBI 503 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 3: now says that they're not looking for three other people 504 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 3: placing pipe bombs. Just said dude, Although it does look 505 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 3: like that dude was inspired by isis? And are they 506 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 3: still calling it a terrorist attack? I know that went 507 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 3: back and forth a couple of times. 508 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 4: Well, at first the FBI was adamant that it was 509 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 4: not some local gal and the local police girl. 510 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: Why are no men in charge the police? She's anymore? 511 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 3: The same police chief Oakland had for a cup of 512 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: coffee and was run out of town because she sucked 513 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,959 Speaker 3: when she was a police chief in Oakland, ends up 514 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 3: the police chief in New Orleans. 515 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: How the hell does that happen? How are you so. 516 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 3: Bad at your job that you get run out of 517 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 3: Oakland as a black woman, and and you go to 518 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 3: New Orleans and. 519 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: Get to be the police chief? What as a black woman? 520 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,239 Speaker 3: You're telling me there's no other candidates than somebody who 521 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 3: failed horribly at their job in Oakland. 522 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 4: Evidently I was in a coma when the constitutional amendment 523 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 4: passed that said, we can't possibly have a white male 524 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 4: running a major city police department. It's just it's it's 525 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 4: utterly impossible. At this point, you couldn't get one through. 526 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: How about the. 527 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 3: Thousands of idiotic how about the thousands of black women, 528 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 3: if you want to stick with that theme, who don't suck? 529 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: Already? Good lord. Anyway, your point was originally she did. 530 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 4: What Well, the FBI was adamant that this was not 531 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 4: a terrorist attacks, not it's a Muslim fellow, but it's 532 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 4: not terrorism, And you know, it's just it's it's ridiculous 533 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 4: that the posturing. It brings to mind the horrifying British 534 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 4: story which we'll get to next hour, about the the 535 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 4: rapes of the young girls. But what was the point 536 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 4: I was driving toward. It seems significant at the time. 537 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. Oh so this guy, it's interesting. It 538 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 4: reminds me of a lot of ills in our society 539 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 4: these days. This was a miserable failure of a guy 540 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 4: with a bad life who wanted to make it out 541 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 4: on somebody. And I think he embraced the ideology of 542 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 4: ISIS because it's all about hurting and being self righteous 543 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 4: and having a purpose and that sort of thing. And 544 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 4: so he decided to kill a bunch of people in 545 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 4: service to isis. What good did It's just the futility 546 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 4: of it is what makes me insane. You didn't strike 547 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 4: a blow forrisis, you didn't do anything but killing us 548 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 4: and people, You moron. 549 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I wanted to bring this up because 550 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: I was thinking just a lot of the reading and 551 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 3: podcasts I was listening to over the break about various 552 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 3: periods through history, whether it was a form of the 553 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 3: Constitution or French Revolution, which I just can't stop being 554 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: interested in. All this sort of stuff. Just a very 555 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 3: big picture cultural What is our problem here in the West, 556 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 3: not just the United States? Western civilization, the decline of 557 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 3: Western civilization and the lack of purpose and unhappiness is 558 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 3: clearly a theme that runs through so much of it 559 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 3: and explains so many different things. Are politics, the way 560 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 3: we structure our lives, all these different sorts of things. 561 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 3: And while I do believe there is absolutely such a 562 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 3: thing as militant Islam that plenty of people around the 563 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 3: world sign on to because they actually believe the Quran, 564 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 3: when it's described the way these nut jobs describe it, 565 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 3: blah blah blah, Right, a lot of the stuff that 566 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 3: happens in the United States is just what you described. 567 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 3: Sad people with sad lives who don't have another purpose 568 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,719 Speaker 3: like charity or God or whatever it ought to be, 569 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: and so they look for the closest thing at hand 570 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 3: that will let them manifest their frustrations and hurt people 571 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 3: because they're so unhappy. 572 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 4: Right, and it takes all sorts of different forms. You know, 573 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 4: I'm reminded odd way of the sudden onset gender dysphor 574 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 4: you among adolescent girls. It's not that there's an explosion 575 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 4: in transgenderism. It has nothing to do with sex, or 576 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 4: call it gender if you like. It has to do 577 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 4: with puberty and indoctrination and angst and porn and all 578 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 4: sorts of stuff. It's not that all of a sudden, 579 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 4: little girls are turning into little boys. That's the last 580 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 4: thing that's happened. Yeah, I can't believe I left that 581 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 4: example out that explains that. Also, just a lot of 582 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 4: people are sad and purposeless and confused and lonely and 583 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 4: all those different things. 584 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: That we didn't used to be so. 585 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 3: Right, that's the big, biggest problem, bigger than isis even 586 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 3: is the overall Western civilization. 587 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: People are just unhappy with their lives. 588 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: And you know, a lot of you think it's when 589 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 3: religion went away and our secondarization. You might be right, 590 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 3: But whatever it is, that's the big thing that needs 591 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 3: to be fixed that would solve all these different things. 592 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think the religion thing is a factor. 593 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 4: If you were to pick, say arbitrary number five five 594 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 4: things that gave people purpose in their lives. 595 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: Religion is one. 596 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 4: Raising a family absolutely was probably number one, but certainly 597 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 4: number two. And you know, you know, getting yourself just 598 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 4: a couple of luxury Number three. 599 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 3: We had at work a social influencer, a social media influencer. 600 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: Oh, that's right, that's a new thing. Anyway. 601 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 4: If you were to take the classic examples of what 602 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 4: motivates me to get up in the morning and live 603 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 4: a life of purpose, I think a lot of them, 604 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 4: if not all of them, have been weakened or eliminated 605 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 4: in a lot of people's lives. 606 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: It's the on we of. 607 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 4: Success, of being decadent, Yeah, aiting, fat and happy. 608 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 609 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 3: And just like I said, I spent a couple of 610 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 3: weeks going through a whole bunch of different books and podcasts, and. 611 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: That was my conclusion. 612 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 3: Is almost everything we talk about can be explained by that. 613 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: Whatever is driving that, just the on wee lack of purpose, 614 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 3: not happy with your life thing that is happening in 615 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 3: all of Western civilization. 616 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 4: Here's the purpose that unites the country. Perfect timing, because 617 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 4: they're a little shaky, right, now it's time to take 618 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 4: Canada back or Gramma fifty first state America's hat. 619 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 3: Maybe we take Canada and Greenland fifty two states. Get 620 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 3: to work on a pattern on the flag. We've got 621 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 3: to get the stars on there somehow. 622 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 4: Well, first we've got to find Greenland. I think it's 623 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 4: in the North Atlantic. 624 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 3: We got a couple of text about the whole alcohol thing. 625 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 3: We got a bunch of other stuff to talk about. 626 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 3: I hope you can stay here text line, be interested 627 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 3: in what you think about what we just said. Four 628 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 3: one five two nine five kftc Armstrong and Getty. 629 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: Rising threats. 630 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: The country is on edge after a deadly New Year's 631 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: Day terror attack that investigators say was inspired by ISIS. 632 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 5: But what a you know, a horrible way to start 633 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 5: the new year, and it points to the need to 634 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 5: get the answers and to make sure it doesn't happen again. 635 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 5: And I think there is more information comes out and 636 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 5: the investigation is more fully completed, I think we'll have 637 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 5: more of those answers. But you know, clearly it's a 638 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 5: dangerous world, and I think it's a reminder that we 639 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 5: need to be doing everything we can at every level 640 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 5: to keep the American people safe. 641 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 3: Okay, that's the new majority leader, Republican John Thune. Meet 642 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 3: the press there with that intro. One thing that I'm 643 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 3: reminded of every time we go on vacation is how 644 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 3: real life compares to media life. And we're in the media, 645 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 3: and we take in so much media that I even 646 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 3: us who mocked the media regularly, I think, you know, 647 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 3: you get into the media life. The nation is on edge. 648 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 3: I was out and about with people. I didn't run 649 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 3: into a single person who seemed to be even slightly 650 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 3: on edge. 651 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: I was in Washington, d C. 652 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 3: Which would be one of the biggest focus points of 653 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 3: isis if they could have any attack the day of 654 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 3: the attack, and we were all in line for museums 655 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 3: and restaurants and stuff like that. The idea, the idea 656 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 3: that everybody's upset or on edge or happy, that it's 657 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 3: just always so way overstated by any media. 658 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 4: That's such a great point. The nation is on edge, 659 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 4: and you think, wow, Okay, the nation's on edge. I'm 660 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 4: supposed to be on edge. 661 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: Are you on edge? 662 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 3: Were you on edge before they told you to be 663 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 3: on edge? Nobody I knew was on edge? And the 664 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 3: security was ramped up. That was definitely true everywhere at 665 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 3: airports and DC and every where I was, But I 666 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 3: didn't notice there was no palpable on edge at all. 667 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 3: The way they portrayed it on the news shows. 668 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 4: Well to the extent that anybody wanted this, I think 669 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 4: I've re just solved everything, all of it, all of 670 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 4: the angst and the depression, and the insanity, and the 671 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 4: transgenderism and the other fundamentalist Islam which has been a 672 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 4: scourge for one hundred and hundreds of years. But it 673 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 4: used to be our entire lives were taken in through 674 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 4: our eyes and ears unless you occasionally got a letter 675 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 4: from somebody. Now virtually all of our input is from 676 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 4: around the entire globe via electronic means. 677 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: It's making us insane. Period. That's it. There's no more 678 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: study needs to be done. Save your money. 679 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 3: That very well could be it. We got these texts. 680 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 3: Should mention guys. The police chief of New Orleans is 681 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 3: a white woman. The FBI Special Agent in charge of 682 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 3: New Orleans is a black woman, and she initially said 683 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 3: New Orleans attack was terry related. Both, by the way, 684 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 3: appeared to be incompetent despite the whatever is in their 685 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 3: skin that makes their skin a certain color. 686 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 4: Yes, if you have testicles, you are not welcome in 687 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 4: the highest echelons of law enforcement. 688 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: That's a true thing. Yeah, it's amazing. You know what, 689 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure we have time to do this. 690 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 4: The fella who blew up explosives inside the cyber truck 691 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 4: in Las Vegas evildoers, shooters, scumbags, cowards. 692 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 1: We don't mention their names. 693 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 4: I am going to mention the name of Matthew Livelsberger, 694 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 4: who was a decorated Army Special Forces veteran, A beautiful guy, 695 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 4: according to everybody who knew him, including fairly recently, who 696 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 4: had all sorts of concussions in active duty and was 697 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 4: displaying all of the signs of traumatic brain injury and 698 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 4: that sort of thing. Wow, and had some serious depression problems, 699 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 4: and he in back injuries the rest of it. But 700 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 4: he actually had a note that said, Hey, this is 701 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 4: not terrorism. It is a wake up call. Americans only 702 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 4: pay attention to spectacles and violence. What better way to 703 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 4: get my point across than a stunt with fireworks and explosives. 704 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 4: He and he was dealing with guilt for the people 705 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 4: he'd seen die and the people he'd killed, and it 706 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 4: was just it was a story about a troubled vet, 707 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 4: not terrorism. 708 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 3: That should get more attention. We'll talk more about that later. 709 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 3: If you missed a second, get the podcast Armstrong and 710 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 3: Getty