1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: To stay number two. All five stay right here for 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: our final news round up and information overload. Right News 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: round Up, Information overload our eight hundred nine four one 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: sean if you want to be a part of the program. 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: With all the discussion about energy and energy independence and 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: giving up energy independence, and now we're still importing oil 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: and energy from Russia, our NATO allies are doing the same, 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Western European allies are all doing the same. It makes 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: no sense. And now finally they've they perhaps under pressure 10 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: because most Americans over seventy some out percent of them 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: think we ought to produce our own energy and oil, 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: because they understand we have the resources to do so. 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: But of course they cling to their their radical climate 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: New Green Deal alarmism, socialism, redistribution is a model, and 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: for some reason, they would rather Mother Earth have the 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: oil drilled in either Russia, Iran, the Middle East, OPEC Nations, 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, or now we're even talking about Venezuela, rather 18 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: than drive for our own oil. Kamala Harris, the genius 19 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: Vice president that she is, actually suggested we're growing our 20 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: economy and saving our environment at the same time. Neither 21 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: one of these statements are true. We can clean our 22 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: air and protect the health of our children. We can 23 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: connect all of our communities with affordable, accessible, and reliable 24 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: public transportation. We can address the climate crisis and grow 25 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: our economy at the same time. And I am here 26 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: today to say, together we all are doing just that now, 27 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: she said, And she goes on to say, imagine all 28 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: the heavy duty vehicles producing zero emissions. Imagine a future 29 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: the freight trucks that deliver bread and milk to our 30 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: grocery store shelves, and the buses to take children to 31 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: school and parents to work. Imagine all the heavy duty 32 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: vehicles that keep our supply lines strong and allow our 33 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: economy to grow. Imagine that they produced zero emissions. How 34 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: about we need to get the oil now and provide 35 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: for our Western European allies. Now, you know, this is 36 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: the same genius last week that explain this very complex 37 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: conflict that's going on when Russia invade Ukraine. And she 38 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: explained it in a way that, yeah, maybe a first 39 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: grader would explain it. Listen, if you're watching any level 40 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: of news, even social media, you're seeing everything that's going 41 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: on right now in the Ukraine. Break it down a 42 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: layman's service for people who don't understand what's going on 43 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: and how can this directly affect the people in the 44 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: United States. So, Ukraine is a country in Europe. It 45 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a 46 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: bigger country, Russia is a powerful country. Russia decided to 47 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: invade Samala country called Ukraine. So basically that's wrong, all right, 48 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: joining us now to weigh in on what's been going 49 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: on with the very latest we have. Rebecca Koffler, former 50 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: Defense Intelligence Agency officer, wrote the bestseller Putin's playbook, Russia's 51 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: Secret Plan to Defeat America. Daniel hoppin, Fox News contributor, 52 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 1: thirty years he was a CIA operations officer, a lot 53 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: of that time dealing with the former Soviet Union in Russia. 54 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: Thank you both for being with us. I said Dan 55 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: last week that I was very skeptical of what I 56 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: thought were premature proclamations by some that the insurgency of 57 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,559 Speaker 1: Ukrainians was, in the end, ultimately going to be effective. 58 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: Now that I see that this convoy really is stymied 59 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: and they really did stop it, and now that I 60 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: see Putin so desperate that he's bombing civilians. He calls 61 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: for a phony ceasefire. People are headed to bordering nations 62 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: so that they can get the hell out of this 63 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: war zone. And he kills He's killing men, women and children. 64 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: And it seems like this the insurgency may be way 65 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: more effective than I was giving me credit for in 66 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: the beginning. When I saw the forty mile convoy, I said, 67 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: if that makes it to Kiev, it's over. It'll be 68 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: a massacre. It hasn't made it to Kiv yet, which 69 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: gives me hope. Yeah, so we haven't quite reached that point. 70 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: Even where Ukraine has started to fight an insurgency, they're 71 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: they're still going toe to toe with the Russian military 72 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: twelve days into this. But you're right, the Russians are 73 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: resorting to ever more indiscriminate attacks, especially from the air, 74 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: against civilian infrastructure, the nuclear power plant for example, humanitarian corridors, 75 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: neighborhoods and residence as hospitals. That's my concern, Sean Frankly, 76 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: that Ukraine will be turned into a scorched diart. To 77 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: pass his prolog, Putin wanted to look like gross Knee 78 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: or Aleppo. Well, that's a pretty chilling and frightening scenario, 79 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: and he would have the firepower I think to get there. 80 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: One thing to add, they fired missiles at the second 81 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: nuclear facility. I mentioned it earlier in the program. I 82 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: have spoken to people that are in touch with their 83 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: military leaders, and they're claiming that they're doing much better 84 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: than they even they thought that they would do. But 85 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: they desperately need javelins, They desperately need stinger missiles. They 86 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: desperately need the West to get them the equipment and 87 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: the missiles to fight back as soon as possible. What's 88 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: your take, Rebecca. I was also surprised Sean at the 89 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: ferocity with which Ukrainians have been able to fight back 90 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: against the Russian attacks, and Putting clearly has miscalculated the 91 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: strength of the Ukrainian military. Look, the Russian military is 92 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: second only to that of the United States, and the 93 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: fact that the Ukrainians are now able to hold off 94 00:05:53,560 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: so bravely and so valiently is amazing. Now, again, this 95 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: shows the desperation of Putin the fact that he's absolutely 96 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: slaughtering the civilians. But that part doesn't really surprise MAKEE 97 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: just revealing for the rest of the world his brutal 98 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: stout well, the other day I might take issue with 99 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: and we don't really know, but I would I gotta 100 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: believe that China probably is as big a military has 101 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: as much military might as Russia. Made me more Dan, 102 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: you might want to weigh in on that part. To me, 103 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: the one thing that has to end is the west 104 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: dependence on energy, because that's providing the funding for Putin, 105 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: for this war and this invasion. Now, the solutions that 106 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm hearing Bannard about don't seem particularly appealing to me. 107 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: And this is I've been discussing most of the day, 108 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: and that is to make a nuclear deal with Iran 109 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: that would provide them tens of billions of dollars that 110 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: would be released money that has been held in sanctions 111 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: for a long period the time as part of the deal. 112 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's not going to be any place anytime inspections. 113 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: It probably is their pathway towards a nuclear weapon. And thirdly, 114 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: they're they're trying to negotiate a deal to import oil 115 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: and energy from Iran. Apparently they're even talking about going 116 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: Biden going to Saudi Arabia. They're also talking about even 117 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: potentially I'm reading articles about having negotiations with Venezuela. Now, 118 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: all of that with the backdrop that America has energy 119 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: independence and enough resources to produce all the energy we'd 120 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: ever need and provide for our allies in the West 121 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: every need that they have, and that's not even being 122 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: discussed yet. Yeah, Sean, we are in an existential point 123 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: here in our war against Vladimir Putin. And I emphasize 124 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: it's Putin's war, it's not Russia's war. You know, the 125 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: Russians don't want to be tied to China. They don't 126 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 1: want to send their kid to China to go to school. 127 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: They want to send them out to the West. They 128 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: want to enjoy their vacations in the West. Vladimir Putin's 129 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: war is not going to be popular. But I will 130 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: tell you historically, we drove a lot of nails into 131 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: the Evil Empire Soviet coffin, and one of them was 132 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: dropping oil prices in the nineteen eighties. And there's no 133 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: question that if we can drop those oil prices and 134 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: reduce our dependency on Russia and the oil and natural gap, 135 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: that we will deprive the Russians of the money they 136 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: need for their war machine. It would seem to me 137 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: that there's a moral and ethical component to this as well. Well. 138 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: I've been saying the same thing as well. We're seeing, 139 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: and I don't know how real it is. We're seeing 140 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: that Russians are just getting out of their tanks and surrendering. 141 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: We saw over the weekend nine Russian fighter jets take 142 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: it out of the sky. Apparently a number of helicopters 143 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: have been shot out of the sky as well. So 144 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: I don't think Rebecca the Putin plan that we get 145 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:56,479 Speaker 1: these these reports about cities in Russia that are protesting 146 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: this war. Do you think he has the full support 147 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: of the military. Does he have the full support of 148 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: the Russian people on this? So clearly he doesn't have 149 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of his military or of his peoples. So, 150 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: and what we should be doing right now sean to 151 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: capitalize on those milits, braves, military men within the Russian 152 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: army who are deserting or at least willing to stand out. 153 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: We should be supporting them. We should be running a 154 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: psychological operation on whodos military or Wooden's apparatus, basically enticing 155 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: more brave military Russians from the Russian military to dessert 156 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: have a place for them where we can, you know, 157 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: help him out. We are very good at ssy ups 158 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: and I don't understand why right now we are not 159 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: using those capabilities. Maybe Dan rus something to say about that, 160 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: but we definitely should be doing it right now. Why 161 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: is there a fear Dan Hoffman of putting in no 162 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: fly zone in Ukraine which Zelinski has been begging for. Yeah, 163 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: so that's a tough one. I mean, throughout our history 164 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: with Russia and the Soviet Union that we have engaged 165 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: in a lot of proxy conflicts, a lot of proxy wars. 166 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: You know, the Russians killed a lot of American troops 167 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,479 Speaker 1: in Vietnam, but not directly. We did the same in Afghanistan. 168 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: We've never engaged directly in kinetic attacks against the Russians 169 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: or Soviets, nor they against Us, out of concern that 170 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: it would leals would lead to something far worse like 171 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: in nuclear war. So you know, the bottom line for 172 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: this is back in April, when Russia was putting seventy 173 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: thousand troops on the border and they got a summit 174 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: between President Biden and President Putin, That's when we should 175 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: have been supplying Ukraine with meigs and chaplains and harpoon 176 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: and anti ship missiles and stingers and all those things 177 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: that they are that they are in need of right now, 178 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: and we're playing catch up and trying to get those 179 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: that military equipment into in the Ukraine right now. It 180 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: is just extraordinarily difficult. I'll just add one last thing. 181 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: John Gladimir Putin said that the collapse of the Soviet 182 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe in the twentieth century. 183 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: We all know how absolutely, you know, nonsensical that is. 184 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: But he's driven Russia right back to that point. He's 185 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: creating their economy, making it look very Soviet to me. 186 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: He's got NATO as strong as we've ever been in 187 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: response to his brutal, unprovoked military attack against Ukraine, also 188 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: a hallmark of the Cold War. So good on Gladimir Putin. 189 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: This is what he's got. But we need to turn 190 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: up the screws. I think Rebecca's right. We need to 191 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: do it really from the bully pulpit, from the President's 192 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: resolute desk, not just from you know, the psiof aspect 193 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: of it. Let's get the President out there calling out 194 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: Russia for everything that they're doing, all the attacks on 195 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: innocent civilians and such. All right, back to Rebecca Koffler, 196 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: former Defense Intelligence Agency officer, Dan Hoffman, Fox News contributor, 197 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: thirty year CIA OPS officer, What are the odds? Rebecca? 198 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: You know Putin better than anybody, and you've studied this 199 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: man your your entire career. When people like me go 200 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: on air and say that if you really want to 201 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: end all of this, the best thing to do is 202 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: hope that somebody around Vladimir Putin, maybe a general advisor, 203 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: takes him out and removes him by whatever means necessary. 204 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: And then we get Lindsey Graham saying the same thing. 205 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: And I know for a fact that there will be 206 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: more people this week making such a proclamation. My question 207 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: to you is do you think he hears about that? 208 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: Is he aware of that? And what psychological impact would 209 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: it have on him? And one hundred percent certain, Sean 210 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: that he is about that from his intelligence advinment. Now 211 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: I assess that there's a very low likelihood that somebody 212 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: actually from his inner circle is going to rise up 213 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: and think something like a cool because this man is brutal. 214 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: Now we have seen, you know what happened in nineteen 215 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: ninety one, right, and I don't rule out the possibilities 216 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: that there could be a group you know, that is 217 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: controlled from not controlled, but really from that was supported 218 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: by the West, that could state something like that. But 219 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: he is very paranoid. And what I'm not certain about 220 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,479 Speaker 1: is whether because he's so scared, he would just unleash, 221 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: you know, something like a nuclear warfare, which is he 222 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: already brandishing, you know, threatening us with it. So if 223 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: we're fighting proxy wars and let me throw this to Dan, 224 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: couldn't we provide Ukraine or a quote third party the 225 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: weaponry that could at least take a shot at where 226 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: if we know his location. I think that's yeah, probably 227 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: a bridge too far. Look, I've always felt the bottom 228 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: line as the Russian people need to realize this and 229 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: take care of their own business. They've got a lot 230 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: more to fear from China than they do from NATO 231 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: defense of Alliance. If they were so genuinely, you know, 232 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: terrified of Europe, I think they wouldn't be shopping. They're 233 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: parking their yachts there by extensive real estate there. But 234 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: when it comes to, you know, removing Vladimir Putin, the 235 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: last thing we want to make it appear like is 236 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: that it's a Western driven initiative. This has got to 237 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: happen from Vladimir Putin's own inner circle, where they have 238 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: to realize that Vladimir Putin is spilling way too much. 239 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: All people understand covert operations with plausible deniability time time 240 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: at a play for it, and it's got to be plausible, 241 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: and there's got to be a policy in place that 242 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: covert action would support. And we also don't go off 243 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: as fascinating foreign leaders either. There there's all sorts of 244 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: regulations about that, but now there's an executive order twelve 245 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: three three three that prevents it. Yeah. So I mean again, 246 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: this is the way to make this happen is is 247 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: to make sure that Ukraine has the wherewithal to fight 248 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: back and show that Vladimir Putin's strategy is not working 249 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: and his own people, his key people. I've mentioned this before, 250 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: a Minister of Defense Shoigu, director of the FSB PATRICKSHIV, 251 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: and its national security Advisor I'm sorry, Director of FSB 252 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: boortenkov Na, Scurity Advisor Patrickship, that they'll all realize that 253 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: this is going nowhere and that they've got to do 254 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: something about the leadership or the military stopped taking orders 255 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: to commit, you know, to commit war crimes and kill civilians. Rebecca, 256 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: thank you, Dan Hoffman, thank you. Eight hundred and nine 257 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: four one, Sean, or number you want to be a 258 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: part of the program this Monday. We've got a great 259 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: Hannity tonight at nine quick break, right back your calls 260 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: on the other side, straight ahead. When fake news gives 261 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: you lies, Hannity supplies the truth. Sean Hannity is on 262 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: right now, all right twenty five down to the top 263 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: of the hour, eight hundred nine four one, Sean. If 264 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program, you know, 265 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: it's amazing the reaction we got. I guess it was 266 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: two three weeks ago when we found the tape of 267 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, and I can't believe there was a tape 268 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: that existed without any notes, and he's got I think 269 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: Kay Bailey Hutchinson, General Kelly to his right, Mike Pompeo 270 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: to his left. I could tell that Kelly and Kay 271 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: Bailey were like, oh my gosh, I can't believe this 272 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: is happening. And Pompeo was enjoying every second of it. 273 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: Because I've known Mike for many years and Mike's tough 274 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: as nails, and Donald Trump just gets right in the 275 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: face of the head of NATO and spells out for 276 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: them how stupid they are, how idiotic they are, how 277 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: dumb it is for us, we the American people, to 278 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: be paying more in terms of gross domestic product product 279 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: product GDP. We're paying more than all of these other 280 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: countries in the NATO alliance, and they're not even paying 281 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: the affair share, like Germany, for example. He pointed out Germany, 282 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: and it's supposedly money to prevent to help protect them 283 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: against Russia, and yet they're turning around on the other 284 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: side as people not paying their fair share, but then 285 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: doing the opposite, doing billion dollars energy deals with Vladimir Putin, 286 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: making Putin richard and tougher, and being more reliant on Putin, 287 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: and he has laid him out, and it really goes 288 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: to the heart of why we are where we are 289 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: today in my view. Listen, this goes on for a 290 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: little bit, but it's really worth listening to again. Listen, Well, 291 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: I have to say, I think it's very sad when 292 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: Germany makes a massive oil and gas deal with Russia, 293 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: where you're supposed to be guarding against Russia, and Germany 294 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: goes out and pays billions and billions of dollars a 295 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: year to Russia. So we're protecting Germany, we're protecting friends, 296 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: we're protecting all of these countries. And then numerous of 297 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: the countries go out and make a pipeline deal with 298 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: Russia where they're paying billions of dollars into the Conference 299 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: of Russia. So we're supposed to protect you against Russia, 300 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: but they're paying billions of dollars to Russia. And I 301 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: think that's very inappropriate. And the former Chancellor of Germany 302 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: is the head of the pipeline company that's supplying the gas. 303 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: Is ultimately Germany will have almost seventy percent of their 304 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: country controlled by Russia with natural gas. So you tell 305 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: me is that appropriate. I mean, we might been complaining 306 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: about this from the time I got it, and it 307 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: should have never been allowed to have happened. But Germany 308 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: is totally controlled by Russia because they were getting from 309 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: sixty to seventy percent of their energy from Russia and 310 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: a new pipeline, And you tell me if that's appropriate, 311 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: because I think it's not, and I think it's a 312 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: very bad thing for NATA, and I don't think it 313 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: should have happened, and I think we have to talk 314 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: to Germany about it. On top of that, Germany is 315 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: just paying a little bit over one percent, whereas the 316 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: United States and actual numbers is paying four point two 317 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: percent of a much larger GDP, So I think that's inappropriate. Also, 318 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: you know, we're protecting Germany, we're protecting France, we're protecting everybody, 319 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: and yet we're paying a lot of money to protect Now. 320 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: This has been going on for decades. This has been 321 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 1: brought up by other presidents, but other presidents never did 322 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: anything about it because I don't think they understood it 323 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: or they just didn't want to get involved. But I 324 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,239 Speaker 1: have to bring it up because I think it's very 325 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: unfair to our country. It's very unfair to our taxpayer, 326 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: and I think that these countries have to step it up. 327 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: Not over a ten year period, they have to step 328 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 1: it up immediately. Germany is a rich country. They talk 329 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: about taking an eight piece of a tiny bit by 330 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: twenty thirty, Well, they could increase it immediately tomorrow and 331 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: have no problem. I don't think it's spared to the 332 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: United States. So we're gonna have to do something because 333 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: we're not going to put up with it. We can't 334 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: put up with it, and it's inappropriate. So we have 335 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: to talk about the billions and billions of dollars that's 336 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: being paid in the country that we're supposed to be 337 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: protecting you against. You know, everybody's everybody's talking about it 338 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: all over the world. They'll say, well, wait a minute, 339 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: we're supposed to be protecting you from Russia. But why 340 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: you paid billions of dollars to Russia or energy? Why 341 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: are countries in NATO, namely Germany, having a large percentage 342 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: of their energy needs paid you to Russia and taking 343 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: care of by Russia. Now, if you look at it, 344 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: Germany is a captive of Russia because they supplied, They 345 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: got rid of their call, they get rid of their 346 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: nuclear They're getting so much of the oil and gas 347 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: from Russia. I think it's something that NATO has to 348 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: look at. I think it's very inappropriate. You and I 349 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: agree that it's inappropriate. I don't know what you can 350 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: do about it now, but it certainly doesn't seem to 351 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: make sense that they paid billions of dollars to Russia 352 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: and now we have to defend them against Russia. So 353 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: pretty amazing how dead on accurate Trump was. I actually 354 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: went back also and I found all interviews of Donald 355 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: Trump to candidate in twenty sixteen, and the questions that 356 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: I repeatedly was asking him about energy independence, and his 357 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: answers were dead on accurate. You know, once again, it 358 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: is amazing how often that he turns out to be 359 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: right and everybody else turns out to be so wrong 360 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: on so many important issues of our time. And it's 361 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: such a shame because these are things that actually matter 362 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: in terms of peace, America security, for example. I'll give 363 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: you a few examples. In February of twenty sixteen, long 364 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: time before the election, I say, I said to him, 365 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: my question was you say a million plus jobs could 366 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: be created through energy independence? He answers, yeah, at least 367 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: these are all things you've said. He said, yeah, I 368 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: keep saying it. I've been saying it, and I said how, 369 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: and he goes for years, I've been saying it. I 370 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: think a lot of people want this question, and maybe 371 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: this goes to the heart of your popularity. How fast 372 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: can Donald Trump the businessman get taxes lower the repatriated 373 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: money back. I think we're talking about Iraq on that point, 374 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: energy independence and a balance budget that I think everybody 375 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: here wants, and then he went in to give an 376 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: answer I asked him. In March seventh, I interviewed him 377 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: again about the single number one question I get about. 378 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: You tell me where Donald Trump is conservative. Explain to 379 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: me how he'll be a conservative Hannity and I asked him, 380 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,959 Speaker 1: I'm asking you. I'm giving you the opportunity to explain 381 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: to people your political philosophy, and then he went on 382 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: to explain it. On March ninth, I asked him an 383 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: energy independence, the number of jobs that would be created. 384 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: He goes on and on about energy independence. In April 385 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: thirteenth of twenty sixteen, my question is how quickly could 386 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: we be an energy independent country? He says, well, very quickly. 387 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: We have the technology that allows us to do these things. 388 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: As an example, in this state, they have decimated the 389 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: coal mines. They've decimated your workers. It might have been Ohio. 390 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. They decimated you know, clean energy, clean coal, 391 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: and you know what we do. First of all, the 392 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: minds are almost they're gonna be gone. They're going to 393 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: be extinct, and they shouldn't be. Coal is great. He 394 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: went on to say that. Then I asked him another question. 395 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: I said, you know where the Saudi Arabia of natural gas? 396 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: We have more than any other country. We have so 397 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: much more, he said. And then he said, we should 398 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: have everything. We should have everything, including renewables. Look at 399 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: the problem with the renewables. Look, I know there are 400 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: a lot of renewables that any human on earth because 401 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: I understand where it's from. And then he says, I 402 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: love solar. Solar is great. The problem is it's the 403 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: thirty year payback. It's not practical. He's a businessman. And 404 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: I asked him on May fourth the same question, and 405 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: I asked him on May eighteen similar questions about energy independence. 406 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: And I asked him on July fourth or twenty sixteen 407 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: about energy independence, and I asked him about asked him 408 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: about it on August ninth to twenty sixteen, and September 409 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: twenty third of twenty sixteen. And I asked him December first, 410 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: before he became president in twenty sixteen, after he won 411 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: the election energy independence. How long after you studied and 412 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: looked at it? Because I see millions of potential good 413 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: paying career jobs for people, he said, right, and he 414 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: says it's a huge thing. It's a huge part of 415 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: our agenda. We have so much energy we never knew about, 416 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: and modern technology starting what's about six years ago, has 417 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: been incredible. We're sitting on a vast amount of wealth, 418 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: and we have more than Saudi Arabia. We have more 419 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: than countries that you'd never believe it's even possible, and 420 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: now we're going to start using it. Those were all 421 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: interviews I had with Donald Trump. If you don't believe me, 422 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: I can play it. I gave you the dates. If 423 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: you want to go back and look at the transcripts. Anyway, 424 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 1: eight hundred ninety four one, Sean, if you want to 425 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: be a part of the program. Ramona is in Georgia. 426 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: What's up? Ramone? How are you? Sir? Hey? Sean? With 427 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: you about the oil? And but you know, apparently we 428 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about that. And by the way, 429 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: I love Trump, but we don't have to worry about 430 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: that because apparently circle back said that I think it 431 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: was last week in a press conference, said that only 432 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: ten percent of our oil comes from Russia. So in effect, 433 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: basically we're just slaughtering, destroying, and leveling ten percent of Ukraine. 434 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: So I guess that's fine. Um, you know, how when 435 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: did this stop? And this is the question. It's like, 436 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: so they take over Ukraine, Okay, I guess Putin has 437 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: this little magic wand with the you know, hey, I 438 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: got NW, I got news. You can't touch me, stay away. 439 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take over Ukraine. I'm gonna slaughter this place. 440 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: And then from there where does it end? Does it 441 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: go to Poland? Is it because of NATO countries? That's 442 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: the question, Sean. It's not that you it's not that 443 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: Ukraine is a weak country. I mean if you go 444 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: to the Budapest Agreement after they succeeded and they were 445 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: the third largest nuclear power in the world, and then 446 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: they had bilateral talks with Russia at the time and 447 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: they weren't going anywhere. America was brought into it for 448 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: trilateral discussions and we made a deal that they would 449 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: hand over their nuclear weapons and they give them the Russia. 450 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: Russia would destroy them and in exchange, they were guaranteed 451 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: security from the United States, the UK and Russia. So 452 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: how does that work out for him? Not very well? 453 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: Not very well. No, I'm saying that our leadership here 454 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: is playing up game with Russia just because they weighed 455 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: this little flag that they've got nukes. Well, for that matter, 456 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: they can just take over the rest of the world 457 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: though we got nukes. You can't do anything about it. 458 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: We're just going to take over. Look, if you're talking 459 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: about you're talking about weakness, and weakness incurs aggression every time, exactly. 460 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: And the fact that it happened during Obama and Biden 461 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: but didn't happen during Trump and now happens again under 462 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: Biden does not surprise me. And frankly, I you ought 463 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: to start the countdown clock until China takes Taiwan because 464 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: that's coming next and after that. God only goes exactly 465 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: right about that. No, I wish I was wrong anyway, Ramon, 466 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: thank you, appreciate the call, Kentucky. We have Dan next 467 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show. Thank you Sean for having me on, 468 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: and really appreciate it and love everything you do. Keep 469 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: up the good fight. I just want you to make 470 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: a point, to make a point here that you know 471 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm terrified. I agree with everything you guys are saying 472 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: about the natural gas in the oil. I mean, we're 473 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: in a paving business and we use a lot of 474 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: a lot of natural gas, a lot of oil, and 475 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: it's going to really affect our business. But the big 476 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: thing I worry about is just nuclear war. I mean, 477 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: you know, child at the Cold War. You know, I've 478 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: seen the day after. I understand the danger that's out there, 479 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: and I just worry about pot and being not being 480 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: back into a corner. I mean, I don't I agree 481 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: with game Rich earlier. I don't think he's gonna win. Um, 482 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: you know, no matter how many cities he takes, um, 483 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: there's gonna be there's already a guerrilla war being fought, 484 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: and you know he's gonna be back into a corner. 485 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: So that I guess I wanted your opinion. Why isn't 486 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: everybody on China more? China is in a perfect position 487 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: to negotiate an off ran for him, because my opinion, 488 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: I think that Russia and China have formed a very 489 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: strong alliance in light of American weakness. And I think 490 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: part of that alliance is sure, we'll let you take Ukraine. Well, 491 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: we'll complain on a very low minor level, but we'll 492 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: protect you in the UN. And then when we take Taiwan, 493 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: you're going to shut your mouth and they'll be reciprocity, 494 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: That's what I think. But I kind of think that, 495 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: you know, China would have expected this to go better 496 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: as well. And I just wonder if they worry about 497 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: his state of mind a little bit, because I mean 498 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: I thought the same thing. I thought, well, why wouldn't 499 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: they take Taiwan with all the weakness we have went 500 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: on in this country? But seeing how that's turning out here, 501 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: it's I know they're kind of waiting back to see. 502 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: But I mean, do you share the same same concerns 503 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: about you know, Truting being a madman and whether or 504 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: not he's gonna you know, I mean, you always have 505 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: to worry about that, you know. Look, it's even biblical. 506 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: I won't I won't ever venture a guest to fully 507 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: understand or imply that I really understand the Book of 508 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: Revelation in the Bible. But um, if not for God's intervention, 509 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: there's not going to be a safe place to stand 510 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: on the entire earth. Uh So it doesn't It sounds 511 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: like it's pretty chilling scenario, but listen, they are evil 512 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: people and then in the last century we can lose 513 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: one hundred million human souls. Now, China stall in Russia, Nazism, fascism, 514 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: imperial Japan. And if we can lose a million, one 515 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: hundred million people, then what would Why would we think 516 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: otherwise that we couldn't lose a similar number of people 517 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: or even more now? And would it play out differently? Yeah? 518 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: Probably would? Is it a scary and chili chilling scenario? Yeah? 519 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: Is weakness the answer? Do we allow him to hold 520 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: us hostage? You can't? You just can't it mutually? A 521 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: short destruction has to be the answer. And now we're 522 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,479 Speaker 1: back to that anyway. Thanks for the call, appreciate it. Right, 523 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: that's gonna wrap things up for today. Now we have 524 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin targeting innocent men, women and children when he 525 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: said he wouldn't. Is there any chance that a real 526 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: ceasefire can get in place? Biden's disaster is begging and 527 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: pleading and negotiating with Iran and Venezuela and Saudi Arabia 528 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: and OPEC. It is just pathetic. We'll get into that 529 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: and news you'll never get from the mob ninetiestern tonight 530 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: on Hannity. We'll see it then back here tomorrow. Thank 531 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: you for making this show possible.