WEBVTT - Cody Alan 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:14.880 Carola. She's the queen of talking. He was sown your man. 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:18.239 She's only is side. You got the snoop on the 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:22.079 on the on side. No one can do with Clie 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:36.320 Carola Carola. No one can do with quiet like Carola Carola. Hey, y'all, 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:39.800 welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby. 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.519 I know music, I know people, and I know the 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:45.440 questions do you want to ask? So let's get hyper 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:49.479 heads up. These are adults having adult conversations, so there 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:54.480 could be adult content today. I have Cody Allen. If 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:57.240 you ever watch SMT, then you definitely know who he is. 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:00.400 He is the face of SMT. He is incredible host, 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:02.720 and he teaches me all of his ways. We do 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:05.160 a little role play, and he also tells me how 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:07.160 he got a start and how he got going and hosting. 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:09.000 It's an amazing interview and I cannot wait for y'all 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:13.880 to hear it. So y'all please welcome Cody. This is 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:15.800 how it starts, this is how it goes, This is 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:19.240 how it goes. This is called the one woman Show, 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:24.080 Hyper Caroline Hobby. Hyper. Yeah, I like it. How's it going? Hyper? 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:27.160 Cody Allen Here do you feel hyper? I usually do. 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:34.480 I do have a pretty strong energetic personality personality, and 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:38.360 um yeah, it's might might get on some people's nerves 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:43.240 over time. Why because I feel like I'm always thinking 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:45.399 of stuff and stuff is coming through my head like 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.360 constantly and kind of stuff and I verbalize it like 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.600 I don't have I can't hold it in sometimes did 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:55.240 I just like spew like ideas of like, oh, let's 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.760 do this. Why don't we ask this question to Blake 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.880 Shelton or give me an example and I text this 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:02.680 person because they're on my mind because I don't need 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:04.960 to text him now? Or should I wait, wait a second, 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:06.640 what about tomorrow when we when are we talking to 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:08.960 Jason Drulo again? Is that to see these kind of 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:14.720 things like NonStop? Um? Yeah, Blake Shelton, do you have 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:18.560 his cell phone number? I don't have Blake's number. Do 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.440 you have some celebs cells? I do, but no more 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.040 than you probably know. You probably have way more. You 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:26.720 know them on a real level. Uh yeah, you know 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:30.120 over over the years because I've interviewed all these awesome 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.080 stars and so you get to know them on a 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:34.800 personal level. And living in Nashville helps as you know, 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:37.040 because you see people all the time. It's a fairly 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.480 small town it really, especially the music community there. You 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:43.560 go and so like people are at Starbucks and at Costco, 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.280 so you end up like buying in bulk with Keith 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:49.600 Urban on a Saturday. Do you feel like being a 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.920 host has given you a chance to really get to 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.120 know people and really get to know stars on a 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:59.000 deeper level because you're asking the personal questions. Yeah, to 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:02.560 some degree. I mean I like, I think people like 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:05.000 to know about the personal lives to some degree. But 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:08.360 I tried to be too like sensational with it because 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.080 I think that gets on my nerves, like reporters who 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.639 who are asking questions to get somebody to say something 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.400 that gotcha sort of stuff. I don't like that um 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.200 and I try to avoid it. But a lot of 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:24.360 artists want to talk about like who, um their wife is, 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:27.360 or who they're sleeping with, who who their girlfriend is. 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:29.000 I mean there's a way to do it with tact. 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:31.560 And I think it's also trust, like they know I'm 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:33.360 not going to be a bozo when I asked something. 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.120 I'm just gonna be a guy that they can I'm 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:40.480 not asking because I'm trying to pry. I'm asking because 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:42.280 you know, we have an audience to serve her at 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.920 CMT and they're interested genuinely in the life and lifestyles 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.640 of the stars. So so how far will you go? 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:52.320 Like where? What do you like to cover when you're hosting? Um, 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:54.160 you know, there's obviously things you have to do with 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.800 every interview. UM. You know a lot of artists are 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.960 here to talk about music. Shockingly, Uh, they wanted to 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.440 about music, So we want to always cover that, and 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:04.840 I'm interested always. I'm a music fan. That's where I 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:08.600 got my start. I mean I began, uh years ago 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.760 doing this because my dad had it was a huge 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:16.080 record collection. Your dad collected what kind of albums like, Um, 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.479 every kind everything from you know, country to rock to 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:24.360 UM to you know, rhythmic R and B stuff. UM, 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:25.960 So he covered the gamut of all of it. And 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:29.000 so I heard all that growing up and UM, his 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.760 tremendous you know, thousands of albums and I'm not kidding, 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:34.720 thousands of albums. He had In my mom and dad's bedroom. 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:36.560 I'll never forget it. There was one wall about the 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:40.600 size maybe of this room, and one wall was covered, uh, 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.479 you know from ceiling to floor, wall to wall with 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:48.799 um albums would all the time, and so I loved 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:52.359 music and that's what drove me to do this. So 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:54.920 when I'm talking to an artist, I genuinely want to 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:56.880 know about the music. I want to know about that. 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.640 Where did that song come from, why is that? Why 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.000 was that lyrics so meaningful? What was going on in 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.560 your life that made you write that or that made 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:08.400 That's that lyrics seem meaningful to you to sing? So, um, 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:11.920 you gotta cover that with an artist. But I think also, uh, 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:13.520 you know, we kind of think about what we do 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.000 with all the radio shows and with Hot twenty on 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:20.320 on CMT TV as sort of like Jimmy fallon, you know, 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:24.000 let's have some fun with these people. Um. So we 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.080 like to play games. I love to play games. I 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.640 love to like create stuff. That's stuff going through my head, 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.480 like why don't we play this game with so and 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.159 so or fun that you can play the silliest games 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.600 ever I know and then adult and get paid for it. 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.120 And it's the most fun stuff to see too. I 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.080 think on TV, like you want to see Brett Eldrede 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:45.800 squirt me in the eyeballs with a water gun, right, seriously. 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:48.080 So yeah, and he did that. By the way, he 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:51.240 had tequila water guns a couple weeks ago on the 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:55.080 show and filled with alcohol. Have you ever got like 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:59.600 Jack Daniels whiskey in your eyes? No, it burns like 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.680 so um. And the first shot he took at me 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.480 was like right for the eyes. I know I was 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:08.239 supposed to be aiming for the mouse, but have been drinking. 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.920 I think we both had, if I'm honest, we both 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:14.880 had a little too much of the water guns previous 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.680 to the shoot. But um. Anyway, so great moments like 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:21.400 that are are fun to create, and that's what you 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:22.800 kind of want to bring out in all these interviews 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:24.919 we do is, Yeah, you want to cover the basics, 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.360 which you also want to get some fun stuff that's 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.400 just outrageous too, because that's what I like to watch. 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:34.120 Do you how do you research your artist before you 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:39.240 interview them or do you win? It's rarely wing it. 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.040 I like to know my ship, Like, I don't like 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:49.440 to show up unrehearsed. You wanted to feel unrehearsed, And 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.960 the only way I get to that point of feeling 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:55.640 relaxed is if I'm prepared. Yeah, I totally agree. It's 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:58.400 like school. I don't think you know, yeah exactly, you 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.080 wouldn't take a test not setting Yeah, do you remember 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:02.839 those days where you show for a test and like 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.200 you felt relaxed, like, Okay, this is gonna go great. 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:09.560 That was a terrible student I was to actually, but 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:11.680 I do remember a few times, like knowing that I 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:14.200 knew the stuff and therefore I was relaxed when I 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.120 went in to take the test. It's the same way. 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:18.840 So you want to make it feel like it's completely 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:24.240 cash but casually. But at the same time, that only 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.520 comes through like kind of knowing who you're talking to 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.920 and kind of knowing things of interest to you that 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.680 you want to ask. Okay, so have a lot of questions, 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.160 and I'm gonna start with the game. Would you rather? 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:39.800 Would you rather? Okay? I love it all right? Would 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:44.440 you rather have uncontrollable nose hair or ear hair and 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.440 you can't ever shave it? Are you? Are you trying 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:49.760 to tell me something? No, I think your facial hair 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.120 is really handsome. Okay, thank you. But if you had 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.480 to have something growing wild and unruly, would it be 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:57.880 nose hair or ear hair? I guess ear hair because 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:00.080 I feel like I wouldn't see it, like push it 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:03.520 behind your ears. I guess either one sounds bad to 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:07.440 me though, Like because nose here, I feel like i'd 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:09.280 see it every day because I look in the mirror 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.280 and stuff. You could kind of like hide the ear 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:15.840 hair a little better. Yeah, yeah, there you go. And I, um, 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:18.960 I do pluck on a regular basis. Sucking is important, 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:23.800 I know, um pluck, Yeah it is. Do you plug 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:27.600 your ears? Yeah, you have to. Okay, that's a dude thing. 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:29.480 I don't think girls have it ear hair. I've never 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.600 had ear hair, really, I really haven't. Um. I bet 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:37.520 your husband has ask him but ears. Maybe he's got 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.920 long hair though, yeah he does. I don't have any 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:41.840 here to cover up any of my ear hair. It's 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:43.920 a problem, and so I just noticed it probably more 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:47.080 than most guys. But plucking of the ear hairs and 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:48.800 nose here too, Like you have to just get in 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.400 there because I feel like when I'm talking to artists too, 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.160 because this is how I feel. Let me just be 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:59.440 completely honest, just feel it is. I'm this close to people, yeah, 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:05.160 and you look this way by the way, Okay, there 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:09.599 spring Brook, But you're this close all the time and 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:11.120 I always feel like, Okay, if I'm looking this way 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:12.600 and this person is looking at me, they could see 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.880 my ears, they could see my nose. You're looking very 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:19.040 clean shave, okay, well but rugged but yet groomed. Rugged 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.920 but groomed. Yeah, that's what I'm looking for. Yeah, like 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.280 you look like you take care of yourself. Thank you. Yes, 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:25.920 I'm not like, oh my god, it's something going to 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.240 cross his face. I feel like if I feel like, 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.280 it's just normal for me though, like I've always been 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.560 that way, like kind of articulous, and I care about 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:34.480 the way I look, and I appreciate that. I like 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:38.200 a well dressed man. It's very metro sexual. No, like, 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:41.080 nothing wrong with that. Okay. You know, when you gotta 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:43.280 face like that, you gotta take care of it all. Okay, Okay, 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:46.400 I feel better, We feel better about it. Okay, So 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.959 we're gonna go to ear hair ear hair. Okay, Now, 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:52.440 this is a tough one. You really have Would you 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:57.840 rather host the Hot twenty count don naked forever? Like 0:09:57.920 --> 0:09:59.840 you can never wear clothes, you have to host it 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:02.960 on TV naked all the time, or you can wear 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:07.200 clothes all that you can wear You can wear clothes 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:12.560 when you're hosting, but you have to live naked. That's 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:17.360 like on TV naked versus you like naked. That is 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.440 a great question. Thank you. I was really proud of 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:25.320 that one. You know, maybe I feel like, Okay, here's 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:27.520 I would make it. I'll make the choice to be 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:32.240 naked in real life and here's why. Here's why because 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:36.840 on TV, millions of people see that and we'll see 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:40.640 you in all your glory. Whereas I feel like I 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:44.000 could make a lifestyle choice to stay at home in 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.160 my real life and I'll just have things delivered to me. 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.240 But wouldn't you be sad not being able to leave 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:51.800 your house? If I knew, how would you do Barry's 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.360 boot camp and working out? Because you love to exercise, 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.000 I do, I would probably have to. Um, I don't 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:00.120 love to do I love to exercise, I hate And 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:02.280 on one of your bios you said you love extras. 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:05.000 I do. I enjoy it. I like to rush six 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.200 pack abs. So you have to work for you know, Well, 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:10.680 that's because I'm worried about being naked one day in 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:14.120 front of people. Um so yeah, no, I think I 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:16.720 would have like blue Apron delivered like the home meals 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:20.240 that I could cook and then um, I would just 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.240 fed X or ups other items I would need from 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.080 the grocery store, because you actually can do that from 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.040 the grostrare. Now can't you order this? And um? I 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.360 just I guess it hired somebody to who wouldn't mind 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.120 seeing me naked. You just have to work all the 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:36.080 tea because that's your only social activity with clothes, that's right, Yeah, 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.720 that's right. So really I would only leave the house 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.000 to go work, So you have to love your job 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.920 and which okay, okay, and then we're winning with I 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:48.520 got it. That makes sense. Good question, that was really thought. 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:55.680 That was funny. Okay. Would you rather be a hoarder 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:59.559 or have to compulsively clean all the time? Um, I'm 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:04.959 already a compulsive cleaner. I can't help it. You love it? 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.679 It's fun for you. Good? Yeah, it feels good. Yes, 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.079 if things are in order and I don't like dust? 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:15.800 Do you liked us? I loved a vacuum. Um. I 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:19.920 love the vacuum also, um because of the job satisfaction 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.040 that comes afterwards. I don't know if I enjoyed it 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:25.720 in the midst of the task. Um, But I was 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:28.360 always one of those guys who also whenever my dad 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:32.000 would make me mow the lawn, or my grandpa who 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.880 had a writing lawn more which was way fun, much 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:36.520 more fun than the push more than my dad had. 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:38.560 So I love to go to my grandparent's hose to 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:40.520 mow the lawn. But um, I was also one of 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:42.880 those guys who loved to make the lines straight in 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:47.160 the yard, like, make it meticulous, make it perfect as 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:50.440 it could possibly be. Do you have the disorder of 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:54.000 O C D or is it just right borderline? Um? 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:55.680 I have a lot of disorders, but I don't think 0:12:55.720 --> 0:13:00.120 that what are they? A lot of initials, um, the 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:03.280 A D D and the A D H D. I 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.400 don't have any of those disorders actually, but I always 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:07.400 feel like I'm borderline all of it. Yeah, Like I 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:09.960 feel like I'm like I said, I'm always going and 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:14.400 I think I have some organizational issues where I just 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.760 like things compartmentalized and perfectly placed where they need to go. 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:22.120 So but not to the point where I need medication. Okay, 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:25.680 that's good, trust me, I have taken all the tests. Well, 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:27.760 good to know. It's good to know. But I joke 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:29.559 about it because I think a lot of people can 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.360 relate to the fact that we're also imperfect, you know, right, 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:35.280 isn't that what makes this beautiful? I think so yeah, 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:39.040 that we're all kind of going through whatever, and we 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.800 all have this set of sort of traits or characteristics 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.880 that many of us still talk about, but they are 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:50.160 uniquely us. Be it this need to clean, or be 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:54.000 it this you know, racing mind or um, you know, 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.679 desire to sort of put things in compartments like those 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.679 kind of things are how we're built in wired And 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:04.560 I think it's okay it is to have some of those. 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:09.520 It makes you human. Takes all kinds of kinds. I'm 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:13.439 agreeing with that time some have SI. Is that electrolyte? 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:18.559 It is see so healthy? Even your water is healthy? Okay? 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.440 Would you rather get a paper cut on your hand 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.720 once a week but this is for the rest of 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.040 your life? Get a paper cut on your hand once 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.680 a week or have your foot fall asleep every third 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:33.680 hour for ten minutes. I love that you create these 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:38.120 questions first of all, like, um, do you are you 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.960 taking drugs when you write these? Are there some medication? 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:46.400 Is that your alcohol of choice? You know? I don't 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.960 really like alcohol. I'll drink it I used to drink 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:50.520 alcohol and I was in my twenties and it just 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.040 does not serve me. Well, I'm one of those drinkers 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.720 that I'm either going to cry, I'm gonna break down, 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:58.920 I'm gonna or have a great time, or I might 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:03.800 like bet that do I drink. I mean, I'll have 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:05.760 a couple of drinks, but I just don't really like 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:07.680 to drink a lot. Yeah, I'm telling that's not good 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:10.280 for anyone around me. I mean, honestly, I get really emotional. 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.280 It's just the water works start plowing, and it's like 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:20.040 my house is like, please layoff, that's awesome. What about you? Um? 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:24.720 I I don't drink a lot, but when I do, 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.560 I like to get super smashed. Okay, you go go 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:29.720 big or go home. I just feel like, if we're 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.160 going to do this, let's do it. Okay. I do 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.560 not feel that way. Are you? So you must be 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:37.720 a good drinker, then, like you're like fun, you have 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:41.240 a yeah? I think so okay, yeah, yeah, I have 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:45.760 a good time. I should drink of choice. Whatever gets 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:47.920 me drunk is the fastest year? Did you take shots 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:51.840 and stuff? That's the way to go though, No, that's 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:53.120 the worst way to go. Then all of a sudden, 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.920 you're blacked out. I've never had that. I don't even 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:57.760 know what that that it's. I haven't been that drunk ever, 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.000 and actually I only you know I've I've been very 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:04.600 religious my whole life, Like you, grew up religious, super religious, 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.880 and up until I was in my thirties, I had 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:14.040 never gotten drunk. What change for you? UM? I think 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.040 it was just maturing and realizing it was okay too, 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:22.360 that the God is not going to hate me for drinking. 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:26.120 I'm sure there's some people emailing right now, God will 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:32.400 hike you for drunk in about So. I always had 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.480 that perception though in my head like that's the way. 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:40.560 I couldn't. I couldn't. I couldn't do that. I didst yet, 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.600 UM not really not terrible. You know. I've heard stories 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:49.040 about people having childhoods where their parents were like very 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:52.480 black and white. My parents were great, um, super awesome, 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:58.360 and they never um never forced anything on me. But 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:02.000 I'll tell you I really wrought religion on myself. I 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:08.040 was a Mormon um for voluntarily. And I know it's crazy, 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.480 but I'm so thankful for it, honestly, because it like 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.240 made me such a great person I think today I 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:18.920 love the Mormon Church still, UM. But there's very strict 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.920 guidelines with all of that, and so I why would 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:28.440 I do that. I don't understand the beau that's actually 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:32.360 not true. It is, um. There there are certain groups 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.479 outside of the actual original Mormon Church that have that 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:40.160 belief polygamy, um, but that's not at the core of it. 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:45.040 And UM, it's certainly not that. I mean, they believe 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:49.840 in Jesus Christ and UM God and the same things 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:52.639 that many Christians believe. UM. I think the one thing 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:54.640 that probably sets them apart is believe in the Book 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:57.440 of Warman in addition to the Bible. They believe in 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:59.520 the Bible, but UM also have the Book of Mormons. 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.159 That probably one of the differentiation. What goes on in 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.840 the Book of Mormon. It's a story of ancient people 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:11.000 who lived um in the continent we live on now, 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.239 honestly American continent, whereas the Bible was taking place in 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:18.199 Israel and Jerusalem, and this was a book they believe 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:25.320 took place here. So UM yeah, yeah, Jesus visits these 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:29.600 people also and has ministry among them as well. To 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.479 be Mormon, how did you decide you wanted to do that. Um, 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:35.959 you know how a friend who was and I liked 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:38.840 the way it felt there at the church. You know, 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:41.439 it just felt right. I was still trying to figure 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.440 out my way in life, and you know, I thought 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:48.960 it was good. And you know, when you like something, 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:51.520 you think it's good, you want to be involved. And 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:55.199 I am so happy I was because I learned so 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:59.600 much about myself. What did you learn about yourself? Um? Well, 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:04.320 I think I I learned, um, you know, how to 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:06.919 be a good person, how to treat people right, how 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:10.040 to communicate better because you you know, a lot of 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:16.200 religions uh sort of ask you to share things with people. 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:18.439 And I think I learned how to talk to people 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:21.760 and share stuff in a way that was more personal 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:25.160 because obviously God is a very personal thing. Also learned 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.280 to pray and like become close to God that way, 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:33.040 and so it's all really good. Um. But I just 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:36.000 have as I've evolved and gotten a little older, I've 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:39.080 also decided, like, Okay, God's not gonna hate me if 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:42.679 I partake an alcohol or other things. And I have 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.320 no idea where we how we got from here in 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:48.239 the paper clip question, because I think that's what we 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:51.040 were talking about, something about a paper clip, I recall 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:54.000 a cut, and which I would definitely I would definitely 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:55.680 opt for that. By the way, how did we get 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:57.880 to that? I don't know. I was trying to bring 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:01.399 us back around to back. Okay, So, so the paper 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:02.960 cut would be much better to me because that would 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.800 be like once a week, no big deal, every day, 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:11.400 every every I mean, that seems like excessive, It's crazy. 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:15.199 How did you get to Mormonism Mormonism from that? I 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:18.240 don't know. Okay, we'll look at the table. We'll go 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:20.000 back and look at the tape in a second here, okay, So, 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:22.480 but just so we got the you'd like the paper cut. 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:24.480 But then, how did you decide to leave being Mormon? 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:27.200 You just decided to go on your own way. You 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:29.280 got what you needed from it. We took some great 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:32.880 lessons and said, I just always hate to say left, though, 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:35.840 because it seems so permanent and like, like I had 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:37.919 a negative experience, and I love those people and I 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:41.119 love what I learned. Yeah, but we're all on a 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:44.960 different sort of pathway, and so I grateful for the 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:47.720 one that I've been on and thankful I had those 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:50.520 experiences and I think it's important for everybody to sort 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:52.359 of look at their life and think that way, because 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:56.640 I do think of life as a book, and every 0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:00.600 chapter is being written, and so much of my life 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:04.199 wasn't closed in that chapter. But I think, you know, 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:06.560 sometimes we have from the page and we decided to 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:08.520 do things a little bit differently, And that's okay too, 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:11.239 because that's our next chapter. What do you want your 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:13.560 book to feel like? You know, like when you read 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:15.359 a book, you get a feeling from it. What do 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:20.800 you want the experience of your life book to feel like? Um, 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:26.439 like a double O seven you're like a sniper like 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:30.560 James Bond. Yeah, you won't be that cool, running really fast, 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:34.399 always like dodging bullets and dangerous, looking great in suits. 0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:41.000 I want all those things exactly. I want all those things. 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:45.960 Um yeah, no, I yeah, I think I think I 0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:47.840 wanted to be what it's supposed to be and not 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:52.040 that's profound. Yeah. I like that kind of just letting 0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:54.800 it unfold the way it was meant to. Yeah, okay, 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:58.240 I think it's okay to be ambitious and like want 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:01.040 things and like move things to happen. I do that 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:03.080