Speaker 1: Carola. She's the queen of talking. He was sown your man.
Speaker 1: She's only is side. You got the snoop on the
Speaker 1: on the on side. No one can do with Clie
Speaker 1: Carola Carola. No one can do with quiet like Carola Carola. Hey, y'all,
Speaker 1: welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby.
Speaker 1: I know music, I know people, and I know the
Speaker 1: questions do you want to ask? So let's get hyper
Speaker 1: heads up. These are adults having adult conversations, so there
Speaker 1: could be adult content today. I have Cody Allen. If
Speaker 1: you ever watch SMT, then you definitely know who he is.
Speaker 1: He is the face of SMT. He is incredible host,
Speaker 1: and he teaches me all of his ways. We do
Speaker 1: a little role play, and he also tells me how
Speaker 1: he got a start and how he got going and hosting.
Speaker 1: It's an amazing interview and I cannot wait for y'all
Speaker 1: to hear it. So y'all please welcome Cody. This is
Speaker 1: how it starts, this is how it goes, This is
Speaker 1: how it goes. This is called the one woman Show,
Speaker 1: Hyper Caroline Hobby. Hyper. Yeah, I like it. How's it going? Hyper?
Speaker 1: Cody Allen Here do you feel hyper? I usually do.
Speaker 1: I do have a pretty strong energetic personality personality, and
Speaker 1: um yeah, it's might might get on some people's nerves
Speaker 1: over time. Why because I feel like I'm always thinking
Speaker 1: of stuff and stuff is coming through my head like
Speaker 1: constantly and kind of stuff and I verbalize it like
Speaker 1: I don't have I can't hold it in sometimes did
Speaker 1: I just like spew like ideas of like, oh, let's
Speaker 1: do this. Why don't we ask this question to Blake
Speaker 1: Shelton or give me an example and I text this
Speaker 1: person because they're on my mind because I don't need
Speaker 1: to text him now? Or should I wait, wait a second,
Speaker 1: what about tomorrow when we when are we talking to
Speaker 1: Jason Drulo again? Is that to see these kind of
Speaker 1: things like NonStop? Um? Yeah, Blake Shelton, do you have
Speaker 1: his cell phone number? I don't have Blake's number. Do
Speaker 1: you have some celebs cells? I do, but no more
Speaker 1: than you probably know. You probably have way more. You
Speaker 1: know them on a real level. Uh yeah, you know
Speaker 1: over over the years because I've interviewed all these awesome
Speaker 1: stars and so you get to know them on a
Speaker 1: personal level. And living in Nashville helps as you know,
Speaker 1: because you see people all the time. It's a fairly
Speaker 1: small town it really, especially the music community there. You
Speaker 1: go and so like people are at Starbucks and at Costco,
Speaker 1: so you end up like buying in bulk with Keith
Speaker 1: Urban on a Saturday. Do you feel like being a
Speaker 1: host has given you a chance to really get to
Speaker 1: know people and really get to know stars on a
Speaker 1: deeper level because you're asking the personal questions. Yeah, to
Speaker 1: some degree. I mean I like, I think people like
Speaker 1: to know about the personal lives to some degree. But
Speaker 1: I tried to be too like sensational with it because
Speaker 1: I think that gets on my nerves, like reporters who
Speaker 1: who are asking questions to get somebody to say something
Speaker 1: that gotcha sort of stuff. I don't like that um
Speaker 1: and I try to avoid it. But a lot of
Speaker 1: artists want to talk about like who, um their wife is,
Speaker 1: or who they're sleeping with, who who their girlfriend is.
Speaker 1: I mean there's a way to do it with tact.
Speaker 1: And I think it's also trust, like they know I'm
Speaker 1: not going to be a bozo when I asked something.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be a guy that they can I'm
Speaker 1: not asking because I'm trying to pry. I'm asking because
Speaker 1: you know, we have an audience to serve her at
Speaker 1: CMT and they're interested genuinely in the life and lifestyles
Speaker 1: of the stars. So so how far will you go?
Speaker 1: Like where? What do you like to cover when you're hosting? Um,
Speaker 1: you know, there's obviously things you have to do with
Speaker 1: every interview. UM. You know a lot of artists are
Speaker 1: here to talk about music. Shockingly, Uh, they wanted to
Speaker 1: about music, So we want to always cover that, and
Speaker 1: I'm interested always. I'm a music fan. That's where I
Speaker 1: got my start. I mean I began, uh years ago
Speaker 1: doing this because my dad had it was a huge
Speaker 1: record collection. Your dad collected what kind of albums like, Um,
Speaker 1: every kind everything from you know, country to rock to
Speaker 1: UM to you know, rhythmic R and B stuff. UM,
Speaker 1: So he covered the gamut of all of it. And
Speaker 1: so I heard all that growing up and UM, his
Speaker 1: tremendous you know, thousands of albums and I'm not kidding,
Speaker 1: thousands of albums. He had In my mom and dad's bedroom.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. There was one wall about the
Speaker 1: size maybe of this room, and one wall was covered, uh,
Speaker 1: you know from ceiling to floor, wall to wall with
Speaker 1: um albums would all the time, and so I loved
Speaker 1: music and that's what drove me to do this. So
Speaker 1: when I'm talking to an artist, I genuinely want to
Speaker 1: know about the music. I want to know about that.
Speaker 1: Where did that song come from, why is that? Why
Speaker 1: was that lyrics so meaningful? What was going on in
Speaker 1: your life that made you write that or that made
Speaker 1: That's that lyrics seem meaningful to you to sing? So, um,
Speaker 1: you gotta cover that with an artist. But I think also, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we kind of think about what we do
Speaker 1: with all the radio shows and with Hot twenty on
Speaker 1: on CMT TV as sort of like Jimmy fallon, you know,
Speaker 1: let's have some fun with these people. Um. So we
Speaker 1: like to play games. I love to play games. I
Speaker 1: love to like create stuff. That's stuff going through my head,
Speaker 1: like why don't we play this game with so and
Speaker 1: so or fun that you can play the silliest games
Speaker 1: ever I know and then adult and get paid for it.
Speaker 1: And it's the most fun stuff to see too. I
Speaker 1: think on TV, like you want to see Brett Eldrede
Speaker 1: squirt me in the eyeballs with a water gun, right, seriously.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and he did that. By the way, he
Speaker 1: had tequila water guns a couple weeks ago on the
Speaker 1: show and filled with alcohol. Have you ever got like
Speaker 1: Jack Daniels whiskey in your eyes? No, it burns like
Speaker 1: so um. And the first shot he took at me
Speaker 1: was like right for the eyes. I know I was
Speaker 1: supposed to be aiming for the mouse, but have been drinking.
Speaker 1: I think we both had, if I'm honest, we both
Speaker 1: had a little too much of the water guns previous
Speaker 1: to the shoot. But um. Anyway, so great moments like
Speaker 1: that are are fun to create, and that's what you
Speaker 1: kind of want to bring out in all these interviews
Speaker 1: we do is, Yeah, you want to cover the basics,
Speaker 1: which you also want to get some fun stuff that's
Speaker 1: just outrageous too, because that's what I like to watch.
Speaker 1: Do you how do you research your artist before you
Speaker 1: interview them or do you win? It's rarely wing it.
Speaker 1: I like to know my ship, Like, I don't like
Speaker 1: to show up unrehearsed. You wanted to feel unrehearsed, And
Speaker 1: the only way I get to that point of feeling
Speaker 1: relaxed is if I'm prepared. Yeah, I totally agree. It's
Speaker 1: like school. I don't think you know, yeah exactly, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't take a test not setting Yeah, do you remember
Speaker 1: those days where you show for a test and like
Speaker 1: you felt relaxed, like, Okay, this is gonna go great.
Speaker 1: That was a terrible student I was to actually, but
Speaker 1: I do remember a few times, like knowing that I
Speaker 1: knew the stuff and therefore I was relaxed when I
Speaker 1: went in to take the test. It's the same way.
Speaker 1: So you want to make it feel like it's completely
Speaker 1: cash but casually. But at the same time, that only
Speaker 1: comes through like kind of knowing who you're talking to
Speaker 1: and kind of knowing things of interest to you that
Speaker 1: you want to ask. Okay, so have a lot of questions,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna start with the game. Would you rather?
Speaker 1: Would you rather? Okay? I love it all right? Would
Speaker 1: you rather have uncontrollable nose hair or ear hair and
Speaker 1: you can't ever shave it? Are you? Are you trying
Speaker 1: to tell me something? No, I think your facial hair
Speaker 1: is really handsome. Okay, thank you. But if you had
Speaker 1: to have something growing wild and unruly, would it be
Speaker 1: nose hair or ear hair? I guess ear hair because
Speaker 1: I feel like I wouldn't see it, like push it
Speaker 1: behind your ears. I guess either one sounds bad to
Speaker 1: me though, Like because nose here, I feel like i'd
Speaker 1: see it every day because I look in the mirror
Speaker 1: and stuff. You could kind of like hide the ear
Speaker 1: hair a little better. Yeah, yeah, there you go. And I, um,
Speaker 1: I do pluck on a regular basis. Sucking is important,
Speaker 1: I know, um pluck, Yeah it is. Do you plug
Speaker 1: your ears? Yeah, you have to. Okay, that's a dude thing.
Speaker 1: I don't think girls have it ear hair. I've never
Speaker 1: had ear hair, really, I really haven't. Um. I bet
Speaker 1: your husband has ask him but ears. Maybe he's got
Speaker 1: long hair though, yeah he does. I don't have any
Speaker 1: here to cover up any of my ear hair. It's
Speaker 1: a problem, and so I just noticed it probably more
Speaker 1: than most guys. But plucking of the ear hairs and
Speaker 1: nose here too, Like you have to just get in
Speaker 1: there because I feel like when I'm talking to artists too,
Speaker 1: because this is how I feel. Let me just be
Speaker 1: completely honest, just feel it is. I'm this close to people, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you look this way by the way, Okay, there
Speaker 1: spring Brook, But you're this close all the time and
Speaker 1: I always feel like, Okay, if I'm looking this way
Speaker 1: and this person is looking at me, they could see
Speaker 1: my ears, they could see my nose. You're looking very
Speaker 1: clean shave, okay, well but rugged but yet groomed. Rugged
Speaker 1: but groomed. Yeah, that's what I'm looking for. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: you look like you take care of yourself. Thank you. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm not like, oh my god, it's something going to
Speaker 1: cross his face. I feel like if I feel like,
Speaker 1: it's just normal for me though, like I've always been
Speaker 1: that way, like kind of articulous, and I care about
Speaker 1: the way I look, and I appreciate that. I like
Speaker 1: a well dressed man. It's very metro sexual. No, like,
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. Okay. You know, when you gotta
Speaker 1: face like that, you gotta take care of it all. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I feel better, We feel better about it. Okay, So
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to ear hair ear hair. Okay, Now,
Speaker 1: this is a tough one. You really have Would you
Speaker 1: rather host the Hot twenty count don naked forever? Like
Speaker 1: you can never wear clothes, you have to host it
Speaker 1: on TV naked all the time, or you can wear
Speaker 1: clothes all that you can wear You can wear clothes
Speaker 1: when you're hosting, but you have to live naked. That's
Speaker 1: like on TV naked versus you like naked. That is
Speaker 1: a great question. Thank you. I was really proud of
Speaker 1: that one. You know, maybe I feel like, Okay, here's
Speaker 1: I would make it. I'll make the choice to be
Speaker 1: naked in real life and here's why. Here's why because
Speaker 1: on TV, millions of people see that and we'll see
Speaker 1: you in all your glory. Whereas I feel like I
Speaker 1: could make a lifestyle choice to stay at home in
Speaker 1: my real life and I'll just have things delivered to me.
Speaker 1: But wouldn't you be sad not being able to leave
Speaker 1: your house? If I knew, how would you do Barry's
Speaker 1: boot camp and working out? Because you love to exercise,
Speaker 1: I do, I would probably have to. Um, I don't
Speaker 1: love to do I love to exercise, I hate And
Speaker 1: on one of your bios you said you love extras.
Speaker 1: I do. I enjoy it. I like to rush six
Speaker 1: pack abs. So you have to work for you know, Well,
Speaker 1: that's because I'm worried about being naked one day in
Speaker 1: front of people. Um so yeah, no, I think I
Speaker 1: would have like blue Apron delivered like the home meals
Speaker 1: that I could cook and then um, I would just
Speaker 1: fed X or ups other items I would need from
Speaker 1: the grocery store, because you actually can do that from
Speaker 1: the grostrare. Now can't you order this? And um? I
Speaker 1: just I guess it hired somebody to who wouldn't mind
Speaker 1: seeing me naked. You just have to work all the
Speaker 1: tea because that's your only social activity with clothes, that's right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. So really I would only leave the house
Speaker 1: to go work, So you have to love your job
Speaker 1: and which okay, okay, and then we're winning with I
Speaker 1: got it. That makes sense. Good question, that was really thought.
Speaker 1: That was funny. Okay. Would you rather be a hoarder
Speaker 1: or have to compulsively clean all the time? Um, I'm
Speaker 1: already a compulsive cleaner. I can't help it. You love it?
Speaker 1: It's fun for you. Good? Yeah, it feels good. Yes,
Speaker 1: if things are in order and I don't like dust?
Speaker 1: Do you liked us? I loved a vacuum. Um. I
Speaker 1: love the vacuum also, um because of the job satisfaction
Speaker 1: that comes afterwards. I don't know if I enjoyed it
Speaker 1: in the midst of the task. Um, But I was
Speaker 1: always one of those guys who also whenever my dad
Speaker 1: would make me mow the lawn, or my grandpa who
Speaker 1: had a writing lawn more which was way fun, much
Speaker 1: more fun than the push more than my dad had.
Speaker 1: So I love to go to my grandparent's hose to
Speaker 1: mow the lawn. But um, I was also one of
Speaker 1: those guys who loved to make the lines straight in
Speaker 1: the yard, like, make it meticulous, make it perfect as
Speaker 1: it could possibly be. Do you have the disorder of
Speaker 1: O C D or is it just right borderline? Um?
Speaker 1: I have a lot of disorders, but I don't think
Speaker 1: that what are they? A lot of initials, um, the
Speaker 1: A D D and the A D H D. I
Speaker 1: don't have any of those disorders actually, but I always
Speaker 1: feel like I'm borderline all of it. Yeah, Like I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm like I said, I'm always going and
Speaker 1: I think I have some organizational issues where I just
Speaker 1: like things compartmentalized and perfectly placed where they need to go.
Speaker 1: So but not to the point where I need medication. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's good, trust me, I have taken all the tests. Well,
Speaker 1: good to know. It's good to know. But I joke
Speaker 1: about it because I think a lot of people can
Speaker 1: relate to the fact that we're also imperfect, you know, right,
Speaker 1: isn't that what makes this beautiful? I think so yeah,
Speaker 1: that we're all kind of going through whatever, and we
Speaker 1: all have this set of sort of traits or characteristics
Speaker 1: that many of us still talk about, but they are
Speaker 1: uniquely us. Be it this need to clean, or be
Speaker 1: it this you know, racing mind or um, you know,
Speaker 1: desire to sort of put things in compartments like those
Speaker 1: kind of things are how we're built in wired And
Speaker 1: I think it's okay it is to have some of those.
Speaker 1: It makes you human. Takes all kinds of kinds. I'm
Speaker 1: agreeing with that time some have SI. Is that electrolyte?
Speaker 1: It is see so healthy? Even your water is healthy? Okay?
Speaker 1: Would you rather get a paper cut on your hand
Speaker 1: once a week but this is for the rest of
Speaker 1: your life? Get a paper cut on your hand once
Speaker 1: a week or have your foot fall asleep every third
Speaker 1: hour for ten minutes. I love that you create these
Speaker 1: questions first of all, like, um, do you are you
Speaker 1: taking drugs when you write these? Are there some medication?
Speaker 1: Is that your alcohol of choice? You know? I don't
Speaker 1: really like alcohol. I'll drink it I used to drink
Speaker 1: alcohol and I was in my twenties and it just
Speaker 1: does not serve me. Well, I'm one of those drinkers
Speaker 1: that I'm either going to cry, I'm gonna break down,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna or have a great time, or I might
Speaker 1: like bet that do I drink. I mean, I'll have
Speaker 1: a couple of drinks, but I just don't really like
Speaker 1: to drink a lot. Yeah, I'm telling that's not good
Speaker 1: for anyone around me. I mean, honestly, I get really emotional.
Speaker 1: It's just the water works start plowing, and it's like
Speaker 1: my house is like, please layoff, that's awesome. What about you? Um?
Speaker 1: I I don't drink a lot, but when I do,
Speaker 1: I like to get super smashed. Okay, you go go
Speaker 1: big or go home. I just feel like, if we're
Speaker 1: going to do this, let's do it. Okay. I do
Speaker 1: not feel that way. Are you? So you must be
Speaker 1: a good drinker, then, like you're like fun, you have
Speaker 1: a yeah? I think so okay, yeah, yeah, I have
Speaker 1: a good time. I should drink of choice. Whatever gets
Speaker 1: me drunk is the fastest year? Did you take shots
Speaker 1: and stuff? That's the way to go though, No, that's
Speaker 1: the worst way to go. Then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you're blacked out. I've never had that. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what that that it's. I haven't been that drunk ever,
Speaker 1: and actually I only you know I've I've been very
Speaker 1: religious my whole life, Like you, grew up religious, super religious,
Speaker 1: and up until I was in my thirties, I had
Speaker 1: never gotten drunk. What change for you? UM? I think
Speaker 1: it was just maturing and realizing it was okay too,
Speaker 1: that the God is not going to hate me for drinking.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some people emailing right now, God will
Speaker 1: hike you for drunk in about So. I always had
Speaker 1: that perception though in my head like that's the way.
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't. I couldn't do that. I didst yet,
Speaker 1: UM not really not terrible. You know. I've heard stories
Speaker 1: about people having childhoods where their parents were like very
Speaker 1: black and white. My parents were great, um, super awesome,
Speaker 1: and they never um never forced anything on me. But
Speaker 1: I'll tell you I really wrought religion on myself. I
Speaker 1: was a Mormon um for voluntarily. And I know it's crazy,
Speaker 1: but I'm so thankful for it, honestly, because it like
Speaker 1: made me such a great person I think today I
Speaker 1: love the Mormon Church still, UM. But there's very strict
Speaker 1: guidelines with all of that, and so I why would
Speaker 1: I do that. I don't understand the beau that's actually
Speaker 1: not true. It is, um. There there are certain groups
Speaker 1: outside of the actual original Mormon Church that have that
Speaker 1: belief polygamy, um, but that's not at the core of it.
Speaker 1: And UM, it's certainly not that. I mean, they believe
Speaker 1: in Jesus Christ and UM God and the same things
Speaker 1: that many Christians believe. UM. I think the one thing
Speaker 1: that probably sets them apart is believe in the Book
Speaker 1: of Warman in addition to the Bible. They believe in
Speaker 1: the Bible, but UM also have the Book of Mormons.
Speaker 1: That probably one of the differentiation. What goes on in
Speaker 1: the Book of Mormon. It's a story of ancient people
Speaker 1: who lived um in the continent we live on now,
Speaker 1: honestly American continent, whereas the Bible was taking place in
Speaker 1: Israel and Jerusalem, and this was a book they believe
Speaker 1: took place here. So UM yeah, yeah, Jesus visits these
Speaker 1: people also and has ministry among them as well. To
Speaker 1: be Mormon, how did you decide you wanted to do that. Um,
Speaker 1: you know how a friend who was and I liked
Speaker 1: the way it felt there at the church. You know,
Speaker 1: it just felt right. I was still trying to figure
Speaker 1: out my way in life, and you know, I thought
Speaker 1: it was good. And you know, when you like something,
Speaker 1: you think it's good, you want to be involved. And
Speaker 1: I am so happy I was because I learned so
Speaker 1: much about myself. What did you learn about yourself? Um? Well,
Speaker 1: I think I I learned, um, you know, how to
Speaker 1: be a good person, how to treat people right, how
Speaker 1: to communicate better because you you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: religions uh sort of ask you to share things with people.
Speaker 1: And I think I learned how to talk to people
Speaker 1: and share stuff in a way that was more personal
Speaker 1: because obviously God is a very personal thing. Also learned
Speaker 1: to pray and like become close to God that way,
Speaker 1: and so it's all really good. Um. But I just
Speaker 1: have as I've evolved and gotten a little older, I've
Speaker 1: also decided, like, Okay, God's not gonna hate me if
Speaker 1: I partake an alcohol or other things. And I have
Speaker 1: no idea where we how we got from here in
Speaker 1: the paper clip question, because I think that's what we
Speaker 1: were talking about, something about a paper clip, I recall
Speaker 1: a cut, and which I would definitely I would definitely
Speaker 1: opt for that. By the way, how did we get
Speaker 1: to that? I don't know. I was trying to bring
Speaker 1: us back around to back. Okay, So, so the paper
Speaker 1: cut would be much better to me because that would
Speaker 1: be like once a week, no big deal, every day,
Speaker 1: every every I mean, that seems like excessive, It's crazy.
Speaker 1: How did you get to Mormonism Mormonism from that? I
Speaker 1: don't know. Okay, we'll look at the table. We'll go
Speaker 1: back and look at the tape in a second here, okay, So,
Speaker 1: but just so we got the you'd like the paper cut.
Speaker 1: But then, how did you decide to leave being Mormon?
Speaker 1: You just decided to go on your own way. You
Speaker 1: got what you needed from it. We took some great
Speaker 1: lessons and said, I just always hate to say left, though,
Speaker 1: because it seems so permanent and like, like I had
Speaker 1: a negative experience, and I love those people and I
Speaker 1: love what I learned. Yeah, but we're all on a
Speaker 1: different sort of pathway, and so I grateful for the
Speaker 1: one that I've been on and thankful I had those
Speaker 1: experiences and I think it's important for everybody to sort
Speaker 1: of look at their life and think that way, because
Speaker 1: I do think of life as a book, and every
Speaker 1: chapter is being written, and so much of my life
Speaker 1: wasn't closed in that chapter. But I think, you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes we have from the page and we decided to
Speaker 1: do things a little bit differently, And that's okay too,
Speaker 1: because that's our next chapter. What do you want your
Speaker 1: book to feel like? You know, like when you read
Speaker 1: a book, you get a feeling from it. What do
Speaker 1: you want the experience of your life book to feel like? Um,
Speaker 1: like a double O seven you're like a sniper like
Speaker 1: James Bond. Yeah, you won't be that cool, running really fast,
Speaker 1: always like dodging bullets and dangerous, looking great in suits.
Speaker 1: I want all those things exactly. I want all those things.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, no, I yeah, I think I think I
Speaker 1: wanted to be what it's supposed to be and not
Speaker 1: that's profound. Yeah. I like that kind of just letting
Speaker 1: it unfold the way it was meant to. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I think it's okay to be ambitious and like want
Speaker 1: things and like move things to happen. I do that
Speaker 1: a lot of that in my life. You know, I
Speaker 1: kind of like I have an idea and I just
Speaker 1: do all I can to make that idea come to life.
Speaker 1: Um and so, and a lot of my story here
Speaker 1: at CMT and beyond has been by way of I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm gonna say forcing it, but like creating it
Speaker 1: in my head. So you write vision boards and stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't do that, but I do think in my head, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you want your future to be a certain way,
Speaker 1: play that movie over and over again in your head
Speaker 1: until it happens. Did you do that to tell me
Speaker 1: the movie? Well? I mean, I just ever since I
Speaker 1: was a young kid, I wanted to be on radio
Speaker 1: or TV. I thought I wanted to be like a
Speaker 1: TV medeaologist. You got your big break twenty three in
Speaker 1: Dallas at a radio station, right, and you're from South Carolina. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I grew up doing radio. Fifteen I got my first
Speaker 1: jobs like h and um right, and now it's like
Speaker 1: so thankful to have like my first job up then uh.
Speaker 1: And I did a lot of like grunt work, you know,
Speaker 1: I would do whatever, like drive the station van to
Speaker 1: you know, remote stops. And there was actually, um, this
Speaker 1: one of the stations I worked for early on was um.
Speaker 1: Their their mascot was a possum, So I would dress
Speaker 1: up as the possum. You look so good. I mean
Speaker 1: we're people just flocking so hot you could carry mace
Speaker 1: around on a taser. I'm sure, yes, yes, so I'm
Speaker 1: the animals. It is it is, but really it makes
Speaker 1: it really cute mascot apparently. And uh, Opie the possum
Speaker 1: was his name. And then he had because open became
Speaker 1: like such the rage and so popular. I'd like to
Speaker 1: think so Opie had to have a companion um, a helpmate,
Speaker 1: if you will, going back to some biblical references here. Uh,
Speaker 1: and so that was Dolly Possum, like Dolly Parton, Dolly Possum. Clever,
Speaker 1: so clever. So anyway, nope, nope, I'm not so just.
Speaker 1: I'm using that. I saw that from Kelly Pickler. I
Speaker 1: can't take credit. That's so good though, who does she
Speaker 1: say it whenever, like she says something really smart, not
Speaker 1: just a hat rack. Thank you for that. That's like
Speaker 1: a great tweet, Kelly, she's the origin. Okay, yeah, but
Speaker 1: take it, take and run Pickler wherever you are. Appreciate
Speaker 1: that shout out. Um, So what were you talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that was my early radio start. And then I
Speaker 1: wanted to be like a meteorologist movie on TV or something.
Speaker 1: I would draw like weather maps for my parents and
Speaker 1: then like show them where their frontal systems were moving.
Speaker 1: And so I was very involved with like stupid dorky
Speaker 1: things at an early age. You were not very much.
Speaker 1: You created Dolly Possum. I didn't create it, but someone clever,
Speaker 1: much more clever than I did. And then you got
Speaker 1: really got a lot of buzz going. That's when your
Speaker 1: radio really started taking out, Like Cody is creative. I well, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I did all my high school dances too. I
Speaker 1: did like my high school you know. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: I would be the DJ. Okay, like scratch the records
Speaker 1: and stuff. That is very hard. It's not easy. It
Speaker 1: is not easy, Jen and I had to do that
Speaker 1: on Amazing Race and it was the hardest shot. So
Speaker 1: you're a scratcher, I mean kind of. Yeah, the old
Speaker 1: old school style. The DJs today they use, you know,
Speaker 1: it's all on iTunes basically, you know, and they're mixing
Speaker 1: in between two computer screens. Not quite the same but
Speaker 1: still a talent. Um. Okay, so you just knew you
Speaker 1: wanted to do this. How did you know? I have
Speaker 1: no idea. I think it may have been again my
Speaker 1: dad with music. And then UM, I love the idea
Speaker 1: of like what the DJ said on the radio, like
Speaker 1: in between the songs, like tell the stories of the
Speaker 1: songs to people, or talk to the artist. I always
Speaker 1: loved all that, and um, I was a genuine complete
Speaker 1: nerd for all that stuff, and um pop culture stuff
Speaker 1: or like whatever. So um, I loved it. And so
Speaker 1: I just I just knew. I just knew. So you
Speaker 1: got your big bag at and then after that happened,
Speaker 1: how did you get to c MT? Because now you
Speaker 1: like run this joint. Let's be oh gosh, well, um,
Speaker 1: A lot of really good people help help me get here. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody has their connections to how things happened,
Speaker 1: and um, mine happened because I think I did a
Speaker 1: really good job in Dallas at that radio station. You
Speaker 1: mentioned it, um, And I say that with with humility
Speaker 1: because again a lot of people around me. But um,
Speaker 1: I was so excited every day to show up to
Speaker 1: work there that I felt like, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: is like dream I dreamed of it. So I get
Speaker 1: to do it every day, you know, coming into a
Speaker 1: radio show, and I was able to help with the
Speaker 1: music on the station, and it was all a dream
Speaker 1: come true. And um, one of the guys who recognized
Speaker 1: that I was decent at my job was the guy
Speaker 1: who runs CMT now And so whenever they started to
Speaker 1: do like radio stuff here, they thought, Okay, who can
Speaker 1: we call? And UM, luckily plucked you out, pluck me
Speaker 1: out here, I am. Yeah. So then, um, I'm like
Speaker 1: a lot of people. I saw CMT and solid videos
Speaker 1: and I wanted to be to some degree Lance Smith
Speaker 1: all those years watching him do the top twenty countdown
Speaker 1: and so and now you are doing that again. That's
Speaker 1: kind of amazing that you visualize it. So what does
Speaker 1: your what did the movie look like in your head
Speaker 1: that you visualize? I never, I never, Um, I thought
Speaker 1: it was was possible to uh be here, um, because
Speaker 1: it seems so far off. And I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people's dreams seemed that way, like you think, oh,
Speaker 1: that's so far away, like there's no way. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can think about it all the time, but it's
Speaker 1: not it's not going to necessarily happen like and then
Speaker 1: it does, and heavens open. I don't know what it is,
Speaker 1: like it's there's some magnetic pool in the atmosphere the
Speaker 1: universe something. Yeah. I think if you put it out
Speaker 1: there you can totally. I really do believe that, like
Speaker 1: I as I grow older, I believe it more and more. Um.
Speaker 1: I think we're all kind of we have intuition, we
Speaker 1: have a sense, and that sense is you have to
Speaker 1: follow it and listen to it closely. And have you
Speaker 1: manifested some crazy stuff? Um? Yeah, I mean I think so,
Speaker 1: um crazy. I don't know if it's crazy, but I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, like being here or thinking about okay, what
Speaker 1: can we do here? Like what things would I want
Speaker 1: to do on hot twenty again, you know using the
Speaker 1: water gun example or whatever. Things like that where you
Speaker 1: just dream it up and figure out how to do it.
Speaker 1: And whether it's um, God who's moving that or you
Speaker 1: who's moving to? Well you're in connection with me and
Speaker 1: all that, if all that is happening in the right alignment,
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, those things do come together. Um, and
Speaker 1: so some crazy what do you call it, manifests? Manifests? Yeah, happened.
Speaker 1: So it's good. Okay. So at c MT you host
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff which is the CMT radio Live
Speaker 1: with Cody Allen you have, which reaches over a hundred stations.
Speaker 1: You have a hundred radios. That's a huge syndicated radio show.
Speaker 1: What people are listening to you after Midnight, which is
Speaker 1: um even bigger, So it reaches both of this. And
Speaker 1: you host CMT All Access and Hot twenty. And are
Speaker 1: you hosting is it like music in a movie? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we are used to host that. That's a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so it's do you work all the time? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like all day. I work a lot, but I of it.
Speaker 1: It's never work. I mean there are moments where I'm tired,
Speaker 1: Like you know, it gets tired, your body gets worn
Speaker 1: down naturally. But I am so driven and I love
Speaker 1: to show up here every day. I mean, look at this,
Speaker 1: so awesome and this is amazing. This is we're sitting
Speaker 1: in the after Midnight room. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, which we
Speaker 1: do all the radio stuff and here all the interviews
Speaker 1: happened on the couch or nearby on the radio set
Speaker 1: and um, and then all the Hot twenty stuff is like,
Speaker 1: you know, so fun. Do you have a favorite show
Speaker 1: to host? Um? Of all as you mentioned, you mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: all the show is this? Do you host anything else
Speaker 1: that I missed? Probably no, but I would say, like,
Speaker 1: you know, when we do seem to music awards in June,
Speaker 1: like those are my the red carpet. Yeah, that's my
Speaker 1: favorite week of the year. I love doing all that
Speaker 1: stuff because it's just like totally the fly you have,
Speaker 1: Like you probably know about the artist, but it's not
Speaker 1: like you know who you're getting exactly. You have like
Speaker 1: an idea of who might show up, so you spend
Speaker 1: a few days before like going over. You know. I
Speaker 1: like to always think I have three things to say
Speaker 1: to every person. You're super prepared. Yeah, and I memorize
Speaker 1: what exactly I want to say to them, um and
Speaker 1: how I want to say it. Have a good memory.
Speaker 1: Pretty good. But I'm also pretty good. I mean I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm pretty good at conversation too, Like, so
Speaker 1: if I forget something, I can always hopefully still make
Speaker 1: a conversation out of it, because you never know what
Speaker 1: someone might say, and you want to also be listening
Speaker 1: so that they can um so you can respond and
Speaker 1: have a flow to it so it doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: you're just rattling off bullet points. Okay, let's do a
Speaker 1: fake conversation. Will you interview me just like real quick?
Speaker 1: How would you start it? Um? So hyper hyper hyper caro.
Speaker 1: So um have you always been hyper? Yeah? Pretty much.
Speaker 1: I have always been very hyper. When was the first
Speaker 1: time you realize like you were hyper? Like? Did someone
Speaker 1: say some of your parents are? I get super excited
Speaker 1: to meet people, like to the point where it like
Speaker 1: it breaks people out. They don't think I'm being real.
Speaker 1: Get overwhelmed with excitement because I love people, and I
Speaker 1: love adventure and I love chatting with people. So I
Speaker 1: come on really strong. You were husband obviously in a
Speaker 1: Thousand Horses. Um, he has probably had a chance to
Speaker 1: introduce you to lots of people because of that connection.
Speaker 1: So who have you been star struck by in meeting you? Know?
Speaker 1: I will say this, I actually had a vivid moment
Speaker 1: watching him on tour, Jason Nadine. I had not met
Speaker 1: Jason Adein yet, and I've had the great fortune to
Speaker 1: meet a lot of people in the industry and so like,
Speaker 1: It's not like I'm not impressed and star struck by people,
Speaker 1: but you know, they've become more approachable being in this
Speaker 1: industry for so long. I remember watching Jason ad and
Speaker 1: I remember thinking, I almost don't want to meet him
Speaker 1: because the feeling I have watching him is that he's
Speaker 1: so like powerful and so huge that I don't want
Speaker 1: to become real. I remember thinking that, and then I
Speaker 1: met him and he's like the nicest guy ever, and
Speaker 1: he was so approachable, and I'm like, Okay, I still
Speaker 1: feel like you're a huge superstar. But you know that
Speaker 1: feeling of just like someone's like almost not human. Do
Speaker 1: you get past that ever? Where you You're like these
Speaker 1: superstars that you're getting to know are normal people? Are
Speaker 1: they in your head always superstars? No? I get past
Speaker 1: it to where they're normal. Really, Yes, See, I don't
Speaker 1: always get past it with some people that I really
Speaker 1: get the chance to get to know. Yeah, like some people,
Speaker 1: I still like, I'm kind of cautious and a little nervous,
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah I do. I've been able to like
Speaker 1: normalize them, which is like cool one hand. On the
Speaker 1: other hand, it's like I'm sad they're not this false
Speaker 1: creature in my head. So with Jason, look at you.
Speaker 1: Just take this now. I feel like we're really in
Speaker 1: an interview. You're so good, Cody. You wanted me to
Speaker 1: do this right, yeah. So with Jason, do you feel
Speaker 1: like he's like a normal person now? Obviously? And his
Speaker 1: wife is awesome. Yeah, she's so sweet. He's totally just
Speaker 1: yeah normal. So can you watch him on the stage
Speaker 1: the same way as you did before? It's a little different.
Speaker 1: It changed. I mean I still have so much respect
Speaker 1: for his music, but now I can see him as
Speaker 1: a regular person. Yeah. So it was a moment. It
Speaker 1: was a moment where and I knew it was going
Speaker 1: to happen. I knew once I met him. I was like,
Speaker 1: I wonder how this is going to feel once I
Speaker 1: get to know him. Okay, so you're promaz back, Cody,
Speaker 1: I mean just on the fly. It's like you're born
Speaker 1: to do this. I do feel that. One. Do you
Speaker 1: ever get stressed out and nervous when you're interviewing anyone?
Speaker 1: Because there ever been anyone that you've been so freaked
Speaker 1: out to interview? M I mean yeah, I think get
Speaker 1: little nervous sometimes, Um, but I think it's it's a
Speaker 1: good nervous, like you want to be a little you
Speaker 1: don't want ever want to feel too comfortable. I don't think.
Speaker 1: But who has made you the most nervous? Um? Maybe
Speaker 1: Dolly Parton only because she is an icon. She probably
Speaker 1: was so easy to be around. And Dolly possum too.
Speaker 1: I remember just kidding her. Um, you know, she was great.
Speaker 1: I mean you meet her and it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: she's so relaxed and um, exactly how you want her
Speaker 1: to be if you will. Like, you know, you see
Speaker 1: her on TV and you know all these songs she
Speaker 1: sings that are just timeless, and then you meet her
Speaker 1: and she's that funny, genuine Dolly. But the first time
Speaker 1: I remember, I'm a little bit nervous. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, guys like I like Keith Urving a lot,
Speaker 1: so good looking, he kind of we will make you
Speaker 1: a little bit nervous too, I mean, and he's so
Speaker 1: good looking and he feels like he just has his
Speaker 1: whole ship together. Yeah, and he's so much I feel
Speaker 1: like he's so much smarter than I am. Yes, he's
Speaker 1: so white. He has exuded wisdom. Right, He's a very
Speaker 1: bright guy and a fun interview. It always really great. Uh,
Speaker 1: he'll make you a little nervous. And you know, Tray
Speaker 1: Satchets probably too. He's a big he's a big talk dude.
Speaker 1: You don't know what you're gonna say. And he's not
Speaker 1: like overly like friendly. He's friendly, but he's not bubbly man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not the bubbly type. But for some reason we
Speaker 1: we always hit it off. We always say funny things,
Speaker 1: and he's a great nerterview. Who is your biggest crush
Speaker 1: the even viewed? Um? Because crush I mean Carrie Underwood
Speaker 1: like perfect is fantastic. I mean every time I see
Speaker 1: her and again she makes me like my palms sweaty too. Um,
Speaker 1: But she's great on the legs and the whole thing
Speaker 1: up every time I see her. They always show up
Speaker 1: and with that like what the what do girls put
Speaker 1: on their legs? That stuff that's Um, I don't know
Speaker 1: about that. It's like a glow. Yeah, that glitterally just
Speaker 1: the right amount to It's not like an over shimmer either.
Speaker 1: It's just a little subtle air descent glow shimmer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's good with that someone. She she knows what she's
Speaker 1: doing there. Um. What's the craziest story you can share
Speaker 1: with me that you've had about interviewing with someone? Um,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of a story that I can
Speaker 1: tell that doesn't involve bad words. I think you can
Speaker 1: cuss on podcasts. It just depends on if you're comfortable
Speaker 1: with cussing. Um. Toby Keith is one of my favorite
Speaker 1: interviews always, basically because every interview starts with a red
Speaker 1: solo cup and something in it. Um, he requires that
Speaker 1: of me. Apparently he likes to get you a little
Speaker 1: slash before going on camera. He's really good. I mean yes,
Speaker 1: it's always really fun with him. Um. So I can't
Speaker 1: even tell the story though, you can't start, not stop.
Speaker 1: I can't. It's a woman related and I'll people will
Speaker 1: hate me. Uh yeah, but he just made a reference
Speaker 1: one time to a woman's parts and it was really funny. Okay,
Speaker 1: just go crazy in your ont did choose your imagination
Speaker 1: for that one? Blame answer? Sorry? I want to say.
Speaker 1: Dirk Spinley said this about you. He said, Cody always
Speaker 1: Cody show always feels fresh and current. He cares about
Speaker 1: country music's past and future, and he always worked to
Speaker 1: make his show as exciting, interesting and personal. That's a
Speaker 1: very like, nice, professional badass quote from DRK Spinley. I
Speaker 1: love Dirks and he's hosting the a c MS this year.
Speaker 1: He's he's just so great. Yeah, I think it would
Speaker 1: be really great. He's um, you know, he's been a
Speaker 1: great friend for a long time. And um, we kind
Speaker 1: of started together, Like I was doing radio about the
Speaker 1: time he started doing music, and so you know, I
Speaker 1: feel like we kind of came up in the business
Speaker 1: about the same time. His career much bigger than mine,
Speaker 1: by the way, but nonetheless it's all relative. For hosting,
Speaker 1: you're at the top of the top. Cody Well, he's
Speaker 1: a good guy and uh yeah, I paid him to
Speaker 1: say most of that. Okay, I like to end my
Speaker 1: interviews leave your light, So leave me some inspiration. Have
Speaker 1: you been inspired? What inspires you or how do you
Speaker 1: want to inspire the world? Wow? Um? How did Okay?
Speaker 1: So what inspires me? Or does anything inspiration? Give me
Speaker 1: some inspiration? It can be from your childhood or something
Speaker 1: that you think about all the time. I feel like
Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about inspiring things here, Like I
Speaker 1: feel like there's yeah, I mean I think if um,
Speaker 1: if I was gonna leave you with anything, especially in
Speaker 1: regards to show business and like what I do every day, UM,
Speaker 1: I would say I love the quote that and it's
Speaker 1: actually true for everything that I do, UM, that there
Speaker 1: is no elevator to the top. I assume always I'm
Speaker 1: going to take the stairs and and have to take
Speaker 1: the stairs to get there, So that means work hard
Speaker 1: to me and kick ass and um go fast as
Speaker 1: you can. Um well at the same time enjoying those
Speaker 1: the joy that comes along with being in that journey
Speaker 1: as well. So yeah, if those two thoughts can mingle,
Speaker 1: I think they should that. Yeah, you gotta work hard
Speaker 1: to get where you want to be, but part of
Speaker 1: getting there is enjoying that. Part of actually accomplishing what
Speaker 1: it is you want is enjoying that journey too. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so take the stairs, but into the walk, not just
Speaker 1: a hap, not just a hat racke. Thank you, Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm so glad we did this. And I
Speaker 1: hope I didn't like bobble your mind too much with
Speaker 1: like weird religion stories. That's it. That's the untold. A
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know that about the exclusive on
Speaker 1: Cody Allen and his religious journey. Who thought I could
Speaker 1: get an exclusive from Cody Allen? I love you, thank you,
Speaker 1: You're awesome. Carola. She's the queen of talking, he was.
Speaker 1: She's on the inside. She got the snoop on side,
Speaker 1: no one can do. Carola, Carola, I hope you guys
Speaker 1: loved hearing from Cody. He is an absolute doll. I
Speaker 1: love him so much. Next week, I have Rachel Reiner
Speaker 1: from the band Gloriana, and she actually has given me
Speaker 1: one of the first interviews that she did when she
Speaker 1: left the band, and she's talking all about her musical aspirations,
Speaker 1: where she's going, and what inspires her. So y'all tune
Speaker 1: in next week and please subscribe on iTunes that are
Speaker 1: hyper killing hobbies. See you next week.