Speaker 1: This is the Sean Hannity Show podcast. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna talk about, slow news day, anything happening
Speaker 1: out there, Lynna, anything news worthy, anything worth talking about. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Glad you with us Sean Hannity Show. Right down our
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Speaker 1: eight hundred nine four one. Sean, you want to be
Speaker 1: a part of the program. Let me start because I am.
Speaker 1: I'm taking this seriously because I know a lot of
Speaker 1: you today are disappointed. I know a lot of you
Speaker 1: are upset. I know a lot of you are angry.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of you feel frustrated. I get it.
Speaker 1: I pay very close attention to what my audience says,
Speaker 1: and I want to address this head on. I want
Speaker 1: to start in Indiana. You know um I and I've
Speaker 1: got to say, the amount of effort that people have
Speaker 1: put into their decision to choose a candidate is beyond admirable.
Speaker 1: I don't question anybody's motives here. You know, I have friends,
Speaker 1: we have listeners to this program that supported any one
Speaker 1: of the seventeen original candidates. I understand firsthand because I
Speaker 1: hear from people every single solitary day, how you feel
Speaker 1: about things that I I take it all to heart.
Speaker 1: I understand how strongly many of you supported Ted Cruz,
Speaker 1: who got out of the race. Last night, I'm watching
Speaker 1: what some people are saying that up this is the
Speaker 1: end of the Republican Party. O. They're saying they're not
Speaker 1: gonna vote for Trump. Uh, the never Trump people, They're
Speaker 1: gonna stay home. Others pledging to vote for Hillary. I
Speaker 1: am extraordinarily appreciative and sympathetic to how you're feeling, and
Speaker 1: appreciative of the amount of effort that you have put
Speaker 1: in two picking candidates. Some of you have literally you know,
Speaker 1: when your candidate lost or got out of the race,
Speaker 1: you would switch to another candidate. That candidate loses, you
Speaker 1: go to another candidate. And it's it's the fact that
Speaker 1: you're so involved and care so much about the direction
Speaker 1: of the country is what we probably all agree on,
Speaker 1: even regardless of which of the seventeen people maybe originally
Speaker 1: you were supporting. Now I have watched up front and
Speaker 1: close and personal what it takes to run for president.
Speaker 1: I have beyond um. I just respect, a deep, abiding
Speaker 1: respect for what it takes for somebody to put their
Speaker 1: hat in a ring to vote. In the case of
Speaker 1: Senator Cruise, over a year of his life. It takes courage,
Speaker 1: It takes commitment. It is a blood sport. It is
Speaker 1: an ugly, ugly profession. By every stretch. Ted Cruz ran
Speaker 1: as hard, He ran as tough a campaign as any
Speaker 1: candidate I have ever witnessed. And the end he was
Speaker 1: taking risks. I love risk taking. He played the ground
Speaker 1: game better than anybody else. He was thinking ahead and
Speaker 1: he just did by the By the end of the day,
Speaker 1: he concluded he couldn't get to where he wanted to
Speaker 1: be and he fell short. That doesn't mean that Ted
Speaker 1: Cruz is out of the presidential race or presidential running
Speaker 1: business forever. One of the things that's so impressive, I
Speaker 1: can go back and make the case, I think a
Speaker 1: compelling case for all seventeen of these guys from the
Speaker 1: very beginning. Now, I want to take you back. If
Speaker 1: you want to understand how did we get to this point,
Speaker 1: How did Indiana? Why did Indiana vote the way they
Speaker 1: did yesterday? If you want to understand this election, there's
Speaker 1: only one way to do it, in my mind, is
Speaker 1: you got to go back to day one. You gotta
Speaker 1: go back to the conditions on the ground, people's perceptions.
Speaker 1: How did this become a massive insurgency year. I've said
Speaker 1: it many many times. We look the stage was set.
Speaker 1: The two finalists in this election, Donald Trump and Ted Cruz.
Speaker 1: You've got two very different people, both outsiders, both hated
Speaker 1: by the establishment, and together they were able to blow
Speaker 1: away really very solid, seasoned politicians. I think what was
Speaker 1: the strongest Republican field in my lifetime and the largest,
Speaker 1: and literally they crushed some wonderful people. I stand behind
Speaker 1: a statement I've I've made many times on this program.
Speaker 1: I think Rick Perry would have been a great president.
Speaker 1: Bobby Jendle is an intellectual rock star. Scott Walker has
Speaker 1: done miracles in the state of Wisconsin. John Kasich, same story.
Speaker 1: Nicki Haley didn't run, but same story with her. Then
Speaker 1: you've got senators that have have done a fabulous job,
Speaker 1: starting with tedor Senator Ted Cruz. The reason Ted Cruz
Speaker 1: has done so well in this election as he had
Speaker 1: the strength and courage and I said it many times
Speaker 1: in interviews with him to stand when the rest of
Speaker 1: those Republicans were too weak and timid to follow up
Speaker 1: and take seriously the promises they made. To you, the
Speaker 1: American people. But the question here is how did how
Speaker 1: did a guy that has zero political experience like Donald
Speaker 1: Trump defy all conventional political gravity and beat sixteen of
Speaker 1: the best Republicans in the country. How did that happen?
Speaker 1: What happened here? What's what's been going on here? Now?
Speaker 1: I'm reading some comments that are rather shallow and uh interesting,
Speaker 1: But you know, some blaming talk radio, some blaming Fox News.
Speaker 1: By the way, I wish I had the power some
Speaker 1: of you think that I had, because if that was
Speaker 1: the case, I promise you Barack Husayin Obama would never
Speaker 1: have been elected the president of the United States. I
Speaker 1: wish I had that much influence. I don't, and by
Speaker 1: the way, neither does anybody else. And frankly, that analysis
Speaker 1: is so shallow and frankly predicated on a a belief system,
Speaker 1: a premise that people are stupid, that the people of
Speaker 1: Indiana must have been stupid, that they were bamboozled, that
Speaker 1: you know, they have no clue what they're doing, they
Speaker 1: have no idea what they're voting for. I'm not buying
Speaker 1: that for a second. I don't believe that for one minute.
Speaker 1: This is and has been a voter rebellion, probably unlike
Speaker 1: any we will ever see in politics again in our lifetime,
Speaker 1: and I really believe that. In other words, do you
Speaker 1: really think the people that were in Indiana yesterday again
Speaker 1: another record state record numbers voting for Donald Trump? Do
Speaker 1: you think they had no clue about Donald Trump's you know,
Speaker 1: many controversial statements or flaws if you want to call
Speaker 1: him flaws, or that he was unconventional. Do you think
Speaker 1: they didn't know that? Do you really believe they didn't
Speaker 1: see these things? You really believe they didn't see his mistakes?
Speaker 1: You know, all of these things were talked about in
Speaker 1: in in detail minutia on a regular basis throughout the
Speaker 1: whole campaign. So the voters, let's just stick with Indiana
Speaker 1: for a second, but it was other states as well.
Speaker 1: But the voters still chose him. And we've got to
Speaker 1: ask a question that very few analysts, media types are asked,
Speaker 1: because they've been wrong from the beginning on all of this.
Speaker 1: Why Why did the voters choose him? There's gotta be
Speaker 1: a reason. Well, it's the media's fault. No, it's not
Speaker 1: the media's fault. The media, if anything, they didn't want
Speaker 1: Cruise or Trump the establishment didn't want Cruise or Trump. Now,
Speaker 1: I contend that the voters of Indiana knew exactly what
Speaker 1: was at stake last night. They knew it was do
Speaker 1: or die for Senator Ted Cruz. They knew that they
Speaker 1: had more influence in deciding whether this was gonna be
Speaker 1: a contested convention or Republicans in Indiana allowing Trump to
Speaker 1: go forward, probably with the nomination. So the question is, well,
Speaker 1: why did they vote that way? Well, I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: and answer that question because I have a theory. I
Speaker 1: have said from the very beginning, if you look it,
Speaker 1: the Trump phenomenon, an outsider, no experience, a businessman, et cetera,
Speaker 1: he is a direct result of what I would describe
Speaker 1: as the institutional failure of Republican and democratic governance, especially
Speaker 1: Obama's governance, if you even want to call it that.
Speaker 1: All the things that I have laid out for the
Speaker 1: Republican Party as of late, I suggested Republicans run on ideas,
Speaker 1: run on a vision. I suggested that they secure the
Speaker 1: borders first. I suggested that they adopt the Penny Plan
Speaker 1: and challenge Obama's reckless spending and and building up of
Speaker 1: our nation's debt. I suggested that they advance and help
Speaker 1: people understand what health care savings are about. I suggested
Speaker 1: that they used the power of the purse. I suggested
Speaker 1: at the time that they also stick with their promises,
Speaker 1: which was at least the fund parts of Obamacare. They resisted.
Speaker 1: They resisted every step of the way. And as a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, they Republicans facilitated the Democrats and especially
Speaker 1: the Obama agenda because they were too timid, and too
Speaker 1: weak and too afraid, and they were they were so
Speaker 1: paranoid they would be blamed for a government shutdown. That
Speaker 1: essentially they conceded every single solitary step of the way.
Speaker 1: More recently, they took a stand against the president's Supreme
Speaker 1: Court nomination. I'm shocked they haven't caved on that yet.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean they won't. So they've lacked an agenda
Speaker 1: for a long time. They've shown nothing but weakness. They've
Speaker 1: allowed Obama's entire radical agenda to be passed. They cared
Speaker 1: about their own power. That's why they wouldn't shut the
Speaker 1: government down. That's why they wouldn't use the power of
Speaker 1: the purse. That's I think the final the straw that
Speaker 1: broke the camel's back was the promise on executive amness.
Speaker 1: D I think that was the straw that broke the
Speaker 1: camel's back. What have I said every day that this
Speaker 1: election is going to be about. We now know that
Speaker 1: of American families do not have a single member of
Speaker 1: that family in the workforce, not one. How many times
Speaker 1: have you heard me say ninety five million Americans are
Speaker 1: out of the labor force. That is a forty five
Speaker 1: year high. It's ridiculous the amount of people that can't
Speaker 1: find a job. How many times have I mentioned fifty
Speaker 1: million Americans and poverty, forty six million Americans on food stamps.
Speaker 1: And then when Republicans given the power of the purse,
Speaker 1: what did they do with it? Nothing? They ended up
Speaker 1: being complicit and racking up under John Bayner nearly five
Speaker 1: trillion dollars in new debt. They didn't fight for fiscal austerity,
Speaker 1: They didn't fight for balanced budgets. They didn't fight, you know,
Speaker 1: Republicans didn't want the wall built. Every single exit poll
Speaker 1: from every single state, including Indiana, last night, showed that
Speaker 1: people care about jobs and the economy. They care about
Speaker 1: trade deals that have hurt American manufacturing and taken away
Speaker 1: American jobs. They care about illegal immigration that has allowed
Speaker 1: what fourteen million people in the country, which who are
Speaker 1: all competing for American jobs and driving down wages. And
Speaker 1: the truth is Republicans, let's be honest here, they never
Speaker 1: wanted a wall. You know why, because they cared too
Speaker 1: much about appeasing their business buddies that donate to their campaigns,
Speaker 1: that thrive on cheap labor. Democrats they just want a
Speaker 1: long term demographic shift that's gonna keep them in power
Speaker 1: for generations. Now, fundamentally, all of those millions of people
Speaker 1: are fed up, they're disgusted collectively, they're angry, they're frustrated.
Speaker 1: Rightly so with Washington d C. Every pole exit pole
Speaker 1: showed between fifty five and six of Republicans feel betrayed
Speaker 1: by d C. Republicans And to be honest, Americans, the
Speaker 1: hard working American people have been screwed royally. And this
Speaker 1: primary why you saw record numbers, why you saw an
Speaker 1: outsider chosen, is because the only real interpretation that you
Speaker 1: can get is people have had enough. You can add
Speaker 1: to this the wars they we send the sons and
Speaker 1: daughters of of children in Indiana to go fight and
Speaker 1: bleed and die, only to have another war politicized, and
Speaker 1: and then gains of Mosl and Ramadi and Felucia and
Speaker 1: to crete, and then we give it back to even
Speaker 1: a worse enemy, just like Vietnam. Fifty eight thousand people.
Speaker 1: How in God's name could we ever do this again?
Speaker 1: You've got a you know, huge wealth, job creation markets
Speaker 1: sitting there. It's called energy. Hillary wants to put the
Speaker 1: cold business out of out of business. She doesn't allow fracking.
Speaker 1: We can't drill anywhere. You know how many millions of
Speaker 1: jobs could be created as America became energy independent. We
Speaker 1: don't do it, you know, shut down because of government
Speaker 1: bureaucrats and regulation. We have schools that just suck. We
Speaker 1: play more, we pay more per capitive per student with
Speaker 1: the worst results. A health care system destroyed, and a
Speaker 1: Republican party that wouldn't use any political capital to stop it.
Speaker 1: Inner cities destroyed. You know. Add to that a government
Speaker 1: that gives a hundred and fifty billion dollars to the
Speaker 1: number one state sponsor of terror. And I think what
Speaker 1: happened here is simple. People have just said, with full
Speaker 1: knowledge of who Donald Trump is, they said, screw it.
Speaker 1: We'll take our chances with him with an our cider,
Speaker 1: with a non politician, with a successful businessman. After what
Speaker 1: do we got to lose? Even with his imperfections, people
Speaker 1: chose him, and they chose him knowingly, and they chose
Speaker 1: him in the biggest numbers we've ever seen in a
Speaker 1: Republican primary. Now there's a reason for all of this.
Speaker 1: And for those that say, oh, Trump's not a conservative,
Speaker 1: Trump's not, well's I'm gonna go over the many interviews
Speaker 1: that I've done with him, and I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: his agenda is, what he's told me. Can I vouch
Speaker 1: for his sincerity, No, but I can tell you what
Speaker 1: he's promising versus what Hillary is promising. A couple of
Speaker 1: bits of news here. Trump has tapped Ben Carson to
Speaker 1: help with the VP search. Hillary Clinton gets what she
Speaker 1: outspent Republican candidates, all of them to stop Trump. In
Speaker 1: other words, they spent five point two million on ads
Speaker 1: with anti Trump messages. Wow, already here we go, the
Speaker 1: billy the trillion. They'll spend a billion dollars trying to
Speaker 1: with negative ads. None of them work so far. Judicial
Speaker 1: watch me get the green light to grill Hillary before
Speaker 1: the FBI. That's an interesting development and I think one
Speaker 1: we ought to pay attention to because I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people have been ignoring. It's Sanders supporters are
Speaker 1: starting a movement to dump Hillary. That's interesting. Uh, You've
Speaker 1: got a pro life group applauding Trump's new higher you
Speaker 1: got Huckaby says he's all in to help beat Hillary.
Speaker 1: Scott Walker endorses Donald Trump, and Bobby Jindal has jumped
Speaker 1: on board, joining us now with his unique analysis. You're
Speaker 1: gonna be mad at me in a second, and I
Speaker 1: don't really care because it's just the way our relationship works.
Speaker 1: You get mad at me and I just keep going.
Speaker 1: You want to do you want to know? Do you
Speaker 1: want to know what it's about? Oh? I'm I'm reasonably
Speaker 1: certain I can guess. But go ahead. So I put
Speaker 1: your name on a pole at Hannity dot Com. I
Speaker 1: put you Marco, Ben Carson, other, Ted Cruze, John Kasig,
Speaker 1: Mike Huckabee, Chris Christie, Sarah Palin, Bobby Jendle, Rick Scott,
Speaker 1: Rick Santourman, Rick Perry. In terms of who should be
Speaker 1: Trump's VP, I want to take a guess who's winning? Um, So,
Speaker 1: Scott Walker, Scott Walker has hang on, that would be
Speaker 1: the wrong answer, not Scott Walker. Okay, why don't you
Speaker 1: tell us? Uh new king Rich. This is a sign
Speaker 1: that my sisters have been calling in and voting over
Speaker 1: and over and over, but they didn't even know it
Speaker 1: was up there. I just put I didn't even announce
Speaker 1: it yet. So anyway, if anyone wants to vote, they can.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's very flattering in a long way
Speaker 1: from where we are right now, that's maybe very flattering.
Speaker 1: You want to know why I actually liked the idea?
Speaker 1: Can I tell you? And you're not getting other than
Speaker 1: other than that we're very very close friends. It's not
Speaker 1: that it's not has nothing to do with friendship, although
Speaker 1: that would be maybe a small part of I can't
Speaker 1: deny that. But there's two moments where conservatism advanced in
Speaker 1: a great degree and was most successful, the Reagan in
Speaker 1: our life, in my lifetime anyway, the Reagan presidency, and
Speaker 1: when you became the Speaker of the House with a
Speaker 1: contract with America and you ended welfare as we knew it,
Speaker 1: the era big government ended. You gave us surpluses when
Speaker 1: we had deficits. As far as the eye can see
Speaker 1: when you first became Speaker, and I just think that
Speaker 1: you know how to get the job done, and you
Speaker 1: know how to fight, and I think you could do
Speaker 1: the spine transplant that Republicans need. Well. I think Trump's
Speaker 1: going to do a lot of the spine transplant him.
Speaker 1: I'm very impressed with the way he's handled this whole
Speaker 1: thing so far. But but you raised a different question, though,
Speaker 1: which is I've been thinking about this. Someone to write
Speaker 1: about this in the near future, you know, I've been
Speaker 1: thinking about I was very privileged as a very junior
Speaker 1: congressman to be part of the Reagan take over, and
Speaker 1: then obviously as Speaker of the House, I was given
Speaker 1: the great opportunity by the American people to be part
Speaker 1: of the takeover in And I've been thinking a lot
Speaker 1: about we have this extraordinary opportunity which which nobody in
Speaker 1: the elite media understands yet. But you could have a
Speaker 1: Trump tidal wave by November that increases our our votes
Speaker 1: in the Senate, increases our votes in the House, has
Speaker 1: a president whose message has resonated and strengthens us at
Speaker 1: the state legislature and governor's level. And the question then is,
Speaker 1: given everything we learned of what is the maximum amount
Speaker 1: of change you could get by Easter of two thousand seventeen,
Speaker 1: and how would you go about doing it? Because when
Speaker 1: I look back, Reagan accomplished a lot, the House Republicans
Speaker 1: accomplished a lot, but we never really quite broke through.
Speaker 1: I mean, the bureaucracies in the Union and the lobbyists
Speaker 1: all managed to slow everything down to a point where
Speaker 1: we didn't quite get the scale of change we should
Speaker 1: have in those two moments. And so I begun to
Speaker 1: really think a lot about if we could win a great,
Speaker 1: decisive victory in November, how do we maximize our impact
Speaker 1: so that by Easter we really have put America on
Speaker 1: the road to being great again. And we really have
Speaker 1: put America in a road to creating jobs and helping
Speaker 1: the poor and really creating a new era of optimism
Speaker 1: and opportunity and positive thinking. You know, I've asked you
Speaker 1: if the the statistics I give out are too insurmountable,
Speaker 1: the debt, the deficits, the number of people out of
Speaker 1: the labor force, in poverty, on food stamps, And you
Speaker 1: always say no, And I sometimes it's the numbers to
Speaker 1: me are so overwhelming. Sometimes I go through. I've ascalate
Speaker 1: back and forth. Can this really happen? Can it really
Speaker 1: be fixed? I don't really know the answer. I think
Speaker 1: it can. Of course it can. When when we came in,
Speaker 1: everybody thought you were gonna get deficits forever. It took
Speaker 1: us four years to turn around. With John Kasi's leadership
Speaker 1: at the Budget Committee uh by Jack Lou who is
Speaker 1: now the Sector of the Treasury, was then Clinton's Director
Speaker 1: of the Office of Management Budget and Lou in August
Speaker 1: of nine holds the press conference and says, at the
Speaker 1: rate we are currently going, we will pay off the
Speaker 1: national debt by two thousand and nine. Now that that's
Speaker 1: a fact, that's that's not a theory. We know how
Speaker 1: to do this. With a leader like Trump, we can
Speaker 1: actually get it done. If you take the amount he
Speaker 1: saved on the woman skating rink, which he got done
Speaker 1: in uh literally such a short period of time and
Speaker 1: for so lo all money that if you took that
Speaker 1: exact same formula and applied it to, for example, building
Speaker 1: a high speed train from Washington to Boston, not under
Speaker 1: federal bureaucracy programs, but under entrepreneurial programs, you could afford
Speaker 1: to do things that that are unimaginable with the federal
Speaker 1: bureaucracy because they make everything five times more expensive than
Speaker 1: they should be. I talked a lot about how did
Speaker 1: we get here? I think a big factor and Trump's
Speaker 1: success has been the failure of Republicans and d C.
Speaker 1: All these exit polls and all the states and territories
Speaker 1: all say the same thing. Republicans feel betrayed by d
Speaker 1: C Republicans. Do you think that's a big And Obama's
Speaker 1: failure obviously is a part of it, but they didn't
Speaker 1: stop the Obama agenda. Do you see it the same way? Yeah, Look,
Speaker 1: there's no question that, Uh, you don't get an insurgent
Speaker 1: like Trump unless you have people really angry. And you
Speaker 1: don't have people really angry if they think their leadership
Speaker 1: is effect So what you've had buildings starting in two
Speaker 1: thousand and ten is a steady increase year after year,
Speaker 1: this sense that Washington is totally out of control. I'm
Speaker 1: working on a on a project to take back Washington, uh,
Speaker 1: and looking at what would it really take, not not
Speaker 1: just to win the presidency or to win the House
Speaker 1: or Senate, because we're all sick and tired of being
Speaker 1: promised things and having them that happened. But if you
Speaker 1: really wanted the American people to run their national capital again,
Speaker 1: if you really wanted to bring under control the corrupt,
Speaker 1: in some cases criminal bureaucracy at the Veterans Administration, if
Speaker 1: you really want to bring under control the State Department,
Speaker 1: which so often does not represent American interests. You know,
Speaker 1: these are really big changes. And I think we need
Speaker 1: to have a program for this fall of the size
Speaker 1: of change. And then we need to remind everybody all
Speaker 1: the stuff you're really sick of. Are the people who
Speaker 1: support Hillary Clinton. There's an idea that I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: stealing right out of your playbook that I think would
Speaker 1: be wise for Trump to use, and Paul Ryan to use,
Speaker 1: and every Senate candidate and every House member to use.
Speaker 1: And that is because the trust level is so low.
Speaker 1: If Republicans want to accomplish these things, they gotta get reelected.
Speaker 1: You gotta have a Republican House, Senate and a Republican president.
Speaker 1: But why not put those ideas down on paper? In
Speaker 1: other words, promised to build the wall, promised to reform immigration,
Speaker 1: that if the Director of National Intelligence, as isis, will
Speaker 1: infiltrate the refugee population. You don't let him in until
Speaker 1: it's safe. Repeal and replace Obamacare with health savings accounts
Speaker 1: that you will negotiate better trade deals, pursue policy of
Speaker 1: energy and dependence within four years, work towards a balanced budget.
Speaker 1: How you gonna deal with isis, how you rebuild the military,
Speaker 1: how you make a commitment to veterans. Undo the the
Speaker 1: Iranian Deal? Why not put it down? Support the Second Amendment.
Speaker 1: You know Trump is gonna name the justices of which
Speaker 1: a pool of justices, which each is for the Supreme Court?
Speaker 1: Do that? Why not do this ahead of time and
Speaker 1: then check off the list? You did it, it worked,
Speaker 1: Why not do it again? I would? I think I
Speaker 1: would do it in two phases. I would do it first,
Speaker 1: taking the kind of list you're describing, I would build
Speaker 1: it into a platform that is really dynamic and really
Speaker 1: exciting and really forward looking, and pass it in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: And then I would take the ten biggest ideas, the
Speaker 1: ones that moved the most votes, the ones that that
Speaker 1: build the most momentum, and I would turn those ten
Speaker 1: into a contract, and sometime in late September, I would
Speaker 1: bring the entire Federal Party together, House, Senate, President and say, look,
Speaker 1: this is what our first hundred days is going to
Speaker 1: be like. And I think that would galvanize the country.
Speaker 1: And if you do it right, you draw a stunning
Speaker 1: contrast with Hillary. I mean, there's an article out today
Speaker 1: about the UH Veteran the Federal Employees Union brow beating
Speaker 1: the Senate into eliminate eeing all of the key reforms
Speaker 1: in the New Veterans Administration Bill because the the government
Speaker 1: bureaucratic Union is dedicated to protecting criminals and people who
Speaker 1: are failing to do their job and people who are
Speaker 1: failing to serve veterans, and they're clearly putting bad bureaucrats
Speaker 1: above saving the lives of veterans. Now, that ought to
Speaker 1: be an example where you you ought to be able
Speaker 1: to draw a sharp line in the sand and say, look,
Speaker 1: Republicans believe veterans are more important than bad bureaucrats, and
Speaker 1: we think you ought to replace the bad bureaucrats to
Speaker 1: make sure that the veterans are getting served. Let Hillary
Speaker 1: side with the Government employee union on behalf literally in
Speaker 1: the case of Puerto Rico, on behalf of criminals who
Speaker 1: are being employed by the veterans administration. What do you
Speaker 1: make how do you unite the party? You said to
Speaker 1: me in a in a previous interview some weeks ago
Speaker 1: that it's up to the nominee to do that. How
Speaker 1: would you recommend Trump reach out to people that you know,
Speaker 1: frankly it was extraordinarily tough with during the campaign. Well,
Speaker 1: I hope, if not today, in the next day or two,
Speaker 1: he's gonna call and talk to Ted Cruz and have
Speaker 1: a very positive conversation. And if John Casey drops out
Speaker 1: as everyone expects him to this afternoon, I hope he'll
Speaker 1: call John. I mean, I think you start with human
Speaker 1: personal touches. Uh, there are one or two guys to
Speaker 1: keep attacking him, and he probably should wait for a
Speaker 1: while on them. But I would just get get the
Speaker 1: list and call all of them, I mean, including Jeff
Speaker 1: Bush and you know you name it. I mean, there
Speaker 1: comes a moment when you got to say, this has
Speaker 1: been a really tough fight, but now we've got to
Speaker 1: put the country first, and I need your help to
Speaker 1: put the country first. I think do you like the
Speaker 1: idea of a team of rivals tapping into the I
Speaker 1: think it was the strongest Republican field of candidates I've
Speaker 1: seen in my lifetime. I think absolutely there are. Of course,
Speaker 1: you're referring to the book about Abraham Let Yeah, and
Speaker 1: and I think, um, you know, you look at that,
Speaker 1: there's some first rate people who ran for president, who
Speaker 1: who would do tremendous jobs. I mean Ben Carson obviously
Speaker 1: at Health and Human Services. Um, I think you could
Speaker 1: put Scott Walker almost anywhere in a major position and
Speaker 1: he would do a superb job. He's just that good
Speaker 1: a guy. I personally am gonna go out on a
Speaker 1: limb here. I personally think that Ted Cruz would be
Speaker 1: an extraordinary Supreme Court justice and would actually be the
Speaker 1: right guy to replace uh antonin Scalia because he had
Speaker 1: the way I said the same thing. I think. I
Speaker 1: think that would be for the single greatest impact beyond
Speaker 1: the presidency for generations that Senator Cruz can have. I
Speaker 1: agree with Senator Cruz is so young that his potential
Speaker 1: to serve for forty or more years, and then the
Speaker 1: power of his intellect is so great, and he's such
Speaker 1: a good constitutional scholar that I think he would be,
Speaker 1: uh just an extraordinary example of what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: And you you start down this kind of a list,
Speaker 1: and you look at these guys. Frankly, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: that they could get him to take it. But the
Speaker 1: fact is that Jeb Bush would be a very good
Speaker 1: secretary of State. Uh. He's a very sophisticated guy. He
Speaker 1: would be accepted almost everywhere in the world. Uh. And
Speaker 1: he's a very patient person. And that's a key. One
Speaker 1: of the keys to being secretary of state is going
Speaker 1: into rooms with people you don't like and being pleasant. Well,
Speaker 1: they're miserable. I gotta I gotta run here. But would
Speaker 1: you consider a position yourself? I think I think no
Speaker 1: citizens can say in advance that they would refuse to
Speaker 1: serve the president of States. And and that's just a
Speaker 1: straight matter of patriotism. If I have to sum up
Speaker 1: everything I was saying in the last hour, Republicans betrayed
Speaker 1: their own base. Every single solitary exit poll prove that. Now,
Speaker 1: what is the impact on conservatives them? Oh, conservative governors,
Speaker 1: those that govern conservatively like Rick Perry and Bobby Jendall
Speaker 1: and Rick Scott and Kasy and Walker and Haley and others,
Speaker 1: they've done just fine. They had no problems. Nobody feels
Speaker 1: betrayed in those states by their governors, things are actually
Speaker 1: going swimming lee in spite of what's happening on you know,
Speaker 1: Obama's you know, just horrible. Republicans were elected to the
Speaker 1: House and Senate to stop the Obama agenda. They ended
Speaker 1: up facilitating the Obama agenda. And that's exactly where the
Speaker 1: frustration has come in. Now Indiana, I contend to damn
Speaker 1: well what they were doing yesterday and last night. People
Speaker 1: of Indiana, like the rest of the country, are smart,
Speaker 1: they're hard working. They have suffered greatly as a result
Speaker 1: of horrible trade deals and carriers leaving and everything else
Speaker 1: that they've been going through. They have suffered. I think
Speaker 1: they watched like most people, this is the most watched
Speaker 1: presidential election in my lifetime. That's it. So they knew
Speaker 1: what what the what the consequences of their vote were
Speaker 1: last night, but they went anyway. Trump got more than
Speaker 1: fifty percent of the votes cast, seventh state in a
Speaker 1: row that he's now done. That he won by almost
Speaker 1: seventeen percentage points. He likely I don't know what the
Speaker 1: final count as he may carry all fifty seven delegates
Speaker 1: available in the state. It was winner take most. He
Speaker 1: won most, if not all demographic groups, income, ideological groups.
Speaker 1: I think the only place that I saw that he
Speaker 1: lost where people with postgraduate degrees and those that described
Speaker 1: themselves as very conservative. Ted Cruz won that. I don't
Speaker 1: think there's any doubt that having Bobby Knight's endorsement UH
Speaker 1: was important, and Lou Holtz's endorsement was important. I don't
Speaker 1: think the Crews Kasig Non Aggression Act worked. I think
Speaker 1: it probably backfired. Carly Fiorina great woman, I think unfortunately
Speaker 1: just I said it from day one, and I don't
Speaker 1: think people vote for vice presidents, and Trump found a
Speaker 1: way to appeal to more people than anybody else here.
Speaker 1: I can't say enough good things about Ted Cruz. He
Speaker 1: ran an incredibly impressive campaign. He articulated his solid conservative
Speaker 1: constitutional beliefs. He was disciplined, he was a great debater.
Speaker 1: He fought hard. You know, he's while he was never about.
Speaker 1: He never broke out, with the exception i'd say in
Speaker 1: Wisconsin that almost became a huge game changer. He was
Speaker 1: the last serious candidate left standing. But he liked Trump
Speaker 1: is hated by the establishment. So it's interesting, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Look at the names that we're talking about here, Scott Walker,
Speaker 1: Chris Christie, Bobby Jendal, Rick Perry, Mike Huck Coulby, Rick Santorum,
Speaker 1: Jeff Bush, Marco Rubio, Ben Carson, Carly Fierina Ran, Paul J. Rich, Pataki.
Speaker 1: I'm kidding Lindsey Graham, and so Donald Trump, who led
Speaker 1: first lad in the polls of July of twifteen, is
Speaker 1: now secured the nomination. An extraordinary moment. Even the New
Speaker 1: York Times recognized, Uh. In American political history, you know
Speaker 1: it's you want to take it another step. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be the first standard bearer of the Republican Party, having
Speaker 1: won more primary votes than any other candidate in the
Speaker 1: history of the Republican Party since Dwight Eisenhower. Uh, he'll
Speaker 1: be the only guy not to have served in political office.
Speaker 1: And Ike was a five star general. He was the
Speaker 1: commander of the Allied forces in Europe during World War Two.
Speaker 1: And I would say that Trump beat the most impressive
Speaker 1: Republican field in three and a half decades. At least,
Speaker 1: he won by spending a fraction of the amount of
Speaker 1: money that his opponents did. He did it without posters,
Speaker 1: He did it with a skeletal a skeleton campaign. Only
Speaker 1: recently as he made some significant hires. It's frankly a
Speaker 1: political achievement remarkable. I'm not saying it wasn't without costs.
Speaker 1: It was extremely rough to the to his opponents. I
Speaker 1: would assume you'll be the same with Hillary. I think
Speaker 1: it's up to him now to unite the party and
Speaker 1: reach out to those people that he was fighting with
Speaker 1: and uh, start a general election contest. You know, except
Speaker 1: for recent polls, he had been behind Hillary Clinton. The
Speaker 1: latest ras musin asm up by three. The battleground last
Speaker 1: week had him dead. Even Hillary is a weak candidate.
Speaker 1: We don't know what James Comey is gonna come up with.
Speaker 1: But those are the those are the facts. I think
Speaker 1: this is this campaign, what you have now participated in
Speaker 1: and what you have now witnessed is gonna be studied
Speaker 1: a hundred years from now. It's that unpredicted bull so
Speaker 1: and I would argue, if anybody tells you which way
Speaker 1: this general election is going to go with any certainty,
Speaker 1: they don't know what they're talking about. They just don't.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I I think if I'm to
Speaker 1: summon up the Republican establishment by the way they wait
Speaker 1: and watch, you're gonna have some of them begging and
Speaker 1: pleading to you know, jump on the Trump train, et cetera,
Speaker 1: and and be on board. They're the first time Trump's
Speaker 1: under fire. There will be the first people off the train,
Speaker 1: which is always the case. But deeper than that, the
Speaker 1: Obama failure, which is massive, is the Republican establishment. The
Speaker 1: Republicans we elected to fix this and stand up to
Speaker 1: this didn't do their job. They didn't get the job done.
Speaker 1: And that's why, you know, and there their hatred is
Speaker 1: pathological towards both these these leading candidates. It just was,
Speaker 1: you know, why so much hatred towards Ted Cruz, Why
Speaker 1: because he barrass them, He stood up when they wouldn't
Speaker 1: stand up. He was going to fulfill the promise they
Speaker 1: all made. You know, they didn't want Cruise, Okay, half
Speaker 1: of them did. Half of them didn't. You know, you
Speaker 1: never knew where anybody was. Cruiz isn't going anywhere. Crews
Speaker 1: might be president in the United States one day, Crews
Speaker 1: might be a Supreme Court justice. One day. Crews might
Speaker 1: be part of the Trump cabinet. You never, he may
Speaker 1: be vice president. For crying out loud, for all I know,
Speaker 1: you want to know where the blame lies in this.
Speaker 1: Look at the Republican Party itself. You know, all of
Speaker 1: these guys love their country. You know you can hear
Speaker 1: it in in Ted Cruz's voice last night. I've seen
Speaker 1: it in his eyes as I've been out on the
Speaker 1: campaign trail with him. He sees what I see American decline.
Speaker 1: He's a very religious individual, person of deep faith, you know.
Speaker 1: He Um, the things said about him are just unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think a lot of this is
Speaker 1: rooted in Republicans not repealing Obamacare, not stopping executive amnesty.
Speaker 1: The Gang of Eight, Gang of Ay killed Marco Rubill.
Speaker 1: Anybody that tells you any differently is just not analyzing
Speaker 1: it correctly. So let me just move on and just
Speaker 1: add this, Um, I have some unsolicited advice. But the
Speaker 1: Trump campaign, Now, who do you think you are, Hannity?
Speaker 1: As I just said, I think we had the strongest bench,
Speaker 1: the strongest group of people in in over three decades
Speaker 1: running for this presidency, running for this nomination. And if
Speaker 1: I was Donald Trump, I know the first person that
Speaker 1: he'll name is going to be as vice president. But
Speaker 1: he also has really important jobs like Secretary of Defense,
Speaker 1: Secretary of State, Department of Homeland Security, Health and Human Services.
Speaker 1: And as I look at the list that I just
Speaker 1: named off to you, Scott Walker and Jendal and Christy
Speaker 1: and Perry and Huckabee and santorm and Jeff Bush and
Speaker 1: Marco Rubio and Carly and Ben and Rand, it's an
Speaker 1: opportunity for him to tap into the best and brightest,
Speaker 1: especially the governors, because they have shown that conservatism. Some
Speaker 1: people declaring conservatism is dead, it is not at all
Speaker 1: conservatism when actually practiced. If it was practiced by d
Speaker 1: C Republicans, this election year would not have unfolded the
Speaker 1: way it did. That's just a fact. So that team
Speaker 1: of rivals is not a bad idea, A team of
Speaker 1: of ten solid, strong, conservative, wise successful politicians that actually
Speaker 1: got jobs done. Is anybody better than Rick Perry for
Speaker 1: crying out one No, Rick Perry's a rock star. He
Speaker 1: would have been a great president. Scott Walker is a
Speaker 1: rock star, would have been a great president. Said this
Speaker 1: now for weeks. I have one other suggestion here I
Speaker 1: would put these promises. I think people are so fed up,
Speaker 1: so disgusted, so untrusting, feel so betrayed that I think
Speaker 1: it's time to go back to a very simple yet
Speaker 1: profoundly successful effort made in and that's put these ideas
Speaker 1: on paper. Make a pledge, a vow, a promise that
Speaker 1: you'll do the things that you'll say you're doing. Now.
Speaker 1: I know that the general media narrative is Trump didn't
Speaker 1: give specifics. Well, actually he did, and I know because
Speaker 1: I interviewed him as much as I interviewed Ted Cruz.
Speaker 1: I can tell you what Ted Cruiz's specifics were. To
Speaker 1: Ted Cruz would have been a great president. It was
Speaker 1: Ted Cruise today that beat Trump. I would be saying, great,
Speaker 1: I'm all in for Ted Cruz. I don't. I. I
Speaker 1: do not have the contempt that some have out there
Speaker 1: for the how the people voted, or that somehow the
Speaker 1: people were bamboozled, or that somehow the people were ignorant,
Speaker 1: or that somehow the people didn't make informed decisions. I
Speaker 1: think just the opposite. I think the people in Indiana
Speaker 1: knew darned well what was going on last night. But
Speaker 1: you know, obviously Trump should put on at the top
Speaker 1: of the list. He will build a border fence to
Speaker 1: stop illegal immigration. That's what I would say, unless and
Speaker 1: until we can actually vet the radical islamis that James
Speaker 1: Clapper and James Comey and and General John Allen said
Speaker 1: we'll infiltrate the Syrian refugee population. We are not taking
Speaker 1: risks with American lives. Put it down on paper. Donald
Speaker 1: Trump has told me many many times he wants to
Speaker 1: repeal Obamacare. He likes health care savings accounts. It's up
Speaker 1: on his website. Go take a look at it. So
Speaker 1: I would put that I will repeal Obamacare and I
Speaker 1: will replace it with health care savings accounts. I am
Speaker 1: gonna stop illegal immigration. He will renegotiate the trade deals
Speaker 1: of Obviously, an important issue is brought up again and
Speaker 1: again so as to prevent people from losing jobs because manufacturing.
Speaker 1: I mean the fact that carrier goes to Mexico. It
Speaker 1: is an unbelievable story. Because they want cheap labor. They're
Speaker 1: not paying people in Mexico a lot of money. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: The wages they'll pay down there, and then they want
Speaker 1: to bring their their air conditions back here. It's outrageous.
Speaker 1: I'm willing to pay more for an air conditioner if
Speaker 1: it means an American gets to keep his job. I'm
Speaker 1: willing to pay a little bit more for a car
Speaker 1: if the manufacturing is done here in the United States.
Speaker 1: I don't buy foreign cars, even though you can argue
Speaker 1: that even them have made abroad too. Trump has said
Speaker 1: to me numerous times he wants America to be energy independent.
Speaker 1: Put it on paper. Trump said he likes the Penny
Speaker 1: plan and a balance budget. That we can't continue to
Speaker 1: put the burden of debt on our kids. Put it
Speaker 1: on paper. Put on paper. That his plan to defeat isis.
Speaker 1: He said he'd bombed the living out of them. Okay,
Speaker 1: but he's not going to telegraph. He said he'll do
Speaker 1: everything you can do to confront Iran. Although they probably
Speaker 1: will have the hundred and fifty billion if they don't
Speaker 1: have it all now, he wants other countries to step
Speaker 1: up and pay. He said he'd protect the Second Amendment.
Speaker 1: He said he's gonna give a list of judges that
Speaker 1: he would appoint to the Supreme Court. And it's only
Speaker 1: those names that he will that pool of names that
Speaker 1: he would use. Put it down on paper. And the
Speaker 1: reason I suggest it is because people don't trust those
Speaker 1: people running for office. So if he would put together
Speaker 1: all of those specifics, every piece of which I think
Speaker 1: I name there is a conservative principle that he's run on,
Speaker 1: and if he put it down as a pledge to
Speaker 1: promise a solemn vow, and then he could persuade people
Speaker 1: some of the best, deepest bench we've ever had in
Speaker 1: the Republican Party to join him, then I think there
Speaker 1: might be an effort and a consolidation. The first person
Speaker 1: I'd make a phone call to his Senator Ted Cruz.
Speaker 1: The next person would be John Kasik, The next person
Speaker 1: after that would be Mark Rubio, and everybody else on
Speaker 1: that list of people that have lost over time. If
Speaker 1: he hasn't talked to them already, I have no idea
Speaker 1: if he has or has it. I just don't know,
Speaker 1: because what's the alternative. Hillary is not building a wall.
Speaker 1: Hillary is not repealing Obamacare. Hillary is not appointing justices
Speaker 1: that are going to be in the vein of Scalia
Speaker 1: and Thomas. Hillary is not going to become energy independent.
Speaker 1: She just said no more call sorry, sucker. By the way,
Speaker 1: I have that coal miner that confronted her is on
Speaker 1: my TV show tonight. Yep, poor guy losing a job.
Speaker 1: I'm We're gonna put a call out of business she
Speaker 1: said the same thing about fracking. She's also against. She's
Speaker 1: not going to balance the budget. You really believe she
Speaker 1: won't even recognize radical Islam exists. What did she do
Speaker 1: in Libya? What did she do with Iran? What has
Speaker 1: she done to improve relations with Israel? So that's my advice,
Speaker 1: that is my that is what I think I would
Speaker 1: do if I was Donald Trump today, I would try
Speaker 1: and you know, absolutely put these things down. And then
Speaker 1: there's something that we can that I think a party
Speaker 1: that has been rudderless, visionless, that is disappointed, that has betrayed,
Speaker 1: can hopefully regain the trust of the people to put
Speaker 1: them in power. And maybe he can do a spine
Speaker 1: transplant for the people in Washington that have been weak
Speaker 1: and timid and feckless and visionless. But that's something that
Speaker 1: every Senate candidate, every House candidate could run on. See
Speaker 1: what they do. They didn't listen to me, did they?
Speaker 1: Not one of them? Paul Ryan said six months ago
Speaker 1: on this program, we're gonna have a contract with the
Speaker 1: mart Well maybe there it is. I just spelled it
Speaker 1: out for you. Why wouldn't they support what I just
Speaker 1: laid out? Joining us? Now, somebody that really stepped out
Speaker 1: on a limb and supported Donald Trump very early in
Speaker 1: the process. Uh. He is the president of Liberty University. Uh.
Speaker 1: Jerry Fulwell Jr. Welcome back to the program. How are
Speaker 1: you great, Sean? How are you? You took a lot
Speaker 1: of heat for this endorsement. Are you getting a lot
Speaker 1: of heat now that Ted Cruz has gotten out? No,
Speaker 1: I've only been one day, but it's uh, you know,
Speaker 1: give it some time. That don't worry. My hate mail
Speaker 1: is instantaneous now in the day and age of Twitter
Speaker 1: and Facebook and Instagram. But anyway, go ahead. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I think social media is the reason that the establishment
Speaker 1: um can't get it can't get a candidate elected anymore
Speaker 1: because it's impossible to to fill of the people because
Speaker 1: they're all talking to each other constantly. But it's and
Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing. But it's uh. But
Speaker 1: at Liberty, you know, we've we've Liberty doesn't support candidates
Speaker 1: because it's a nonprofit, but we've had um a commencement
Speaker 1: in two weeks. We have thirty four thousand people. But
Speaker 1: it'll be in attendance who we're honoring alumni who one
Speaker 1: was the top official with Ben Carson's campaign. And another
Speaker 1: was is another Liberty alumni that we're honoring with an
Speaker 1: honorary doctorate like the one you got when you were
Speaker 1: here years ago. Is um Penny Nance, who heads up
Speaker 1: Concerned Women for America. She's been an outspoke, he's a
Speaker 1: rock star. I like her a lot. She's really she's here.
Speaker 1: We're looking forward to her being and she's gonna receive
Speaker 1: an honorary doctorate. She's been an outspoken Cruise supporter. Tim Lee,
Speaker 1: who's on our board, who lost both of his legs
Speaker 1: in combat in Vietnam. He's been on our board since nineteen.
Speaker 1: He headed up the organization Veterans for Cruise after I
Speaker 1: introduced to to Raphael Crews, Ted's father, and he just
Speaker 1: just now sent me a text message that he's putting
Speaker 1: on Facebook urging all of the U Conservatives and the
Speaker 1: Christians to unite behind Donald Trump. And he explains it,
Speaker 1: while he's not the perfect candidate, and he you know,
Speaker 1: he he might not be his what wasn't his first choice,
Speaker 1: He's he in this in this text, he details why
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton would be so much worse, and you know,
Speaker 1: just the Supreme Court issue alone in the courts at stake.
Speaker 1: It's it's um, some people, I don't have any question
Speaker 1: that Trump will appoint you know, the right people. But
Speaker 1: some voters do have concern about that. But there's no
Speaker 1: question who Hillary would appoint. Well, actually, Trump, Trump is
Speaker 1: gonna release the names of the pool of people that
Speaker 1: he would the only people that he would consider for
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. By the way, you know, his name,
Speaker 1: I would put in her. I put Ted Cruz's name
Speaker 1: in there, name in there. I would. I think Ted
Speaker 1: Cruz would be a great Supreme Court justice. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's just, uh, it's just so important
Speaker 1: that conservatives and Christians not be so idealistic. It's time
Speaker 1: to be a little bit pragmatic. And I mean think
Speaker 1: back over your lifetime. How many presidents are aligned with
Speaker 1: what you believed or what with with with what any
Speaker 1: voter believed. I mean, it's just not it's not how
Speaker 1: the system works. We have to we have to give
Speaker 1: and take and um, go with the candidate that we
Speaker 1: believe is electable and is that it's most most closely
Speaker 1: aligned with with our beliefs. And I really believe Donald
Speaker 1: Trump is is uh is the right man for this
Speaker 1: for this time in America's history. I think we need
Speaker 1: somebody tough. I think we need somebody who'll fight, and
Speaker 1: he certainly will do that. And it's uh. I was
Speaker 1: so honored and humbled by the comments he made in
Speaker 1: the in the victory speech last night about Liberty and
Speaker 1: about Um, about the role we played, and it was
Speaker 1: just just kind of him to remember us. But but anyhow,
Speaker 1: it's you were you told me at the time you endorsed.
Speaker 1: I remember interviewing you that you were torn and and
Speaker 1: you like Ted Cruz and you like Donald Trump. You
Speaker 1: liked them both, Ted Cruz and Ben Carson and uh,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I told you those were my three, my
Speaker 1: three choices. And we were given another honorary doctorate to
Speaker 1: George Rodgers, and ninety six year old World War Two
Speaker 1: veteran who survived the Baton Death March, and he was
Speaker 1: he he was a big supporter of Ben Carson. So
Speaker 1: we're trying on campus here most of the students supported
Speaker 1: Marco Rubio. But there's always been respect for other people's
Speaker 1: opinions here and I hope the rest of the conservative
Speaker 1: conservative world will will emulate what I've seen here at
Speaker 1: Liberty and UH, and unite. It's the only only hope
Speaker 1: for this country. I just don't know. I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I don't see I will survive another another four years
Speaker 1: of Obama type leadership. I gotta tell you. I think
Speaker 1: Hillary is four more years of the same um. And
Speaker 1: I know that people are disappointed today if if they
Speaker 1: were supporting Ted Cruiser John Kasick. I get it. I've
Speaker 1: seen this all throughout my career. People put their heart,
Speaker 1: their soul, uh, the very essence of who they are
Speaker 1: on the line. It's a brutal, brutal uh process from
Speaker 1: the get go, and they do it because they love
Speaker 1: their country. And in the end there's only gonna be
Speaker 1: one candidate, and and then you have an issue of
Speaker 1: whether or not people will unite. I know the never
Speaker 1: Trump people have expressed their desire to stay on the
Speaker 1: sidelines or maybe vote for Hillary, and that's their choice.
Speaker 1: I think it's a bad choice, and uh, we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens maybe time. You know, even Bill Crystal is
Speaker 1: reconsidering never Trump, So we'll see what happens. Well, the
Speaker 1: Republican evangelicals have been going for Trump and with six
Speaker 1: does that sound right? And there's there's a there's a
Speaker 1: smaller group. There's a minority of evangelicals that are a
Speaker 1: lot of them are in the never Trump movement. But
Speaker 1: but they, you know, I think they will come. I
Speaker 1: think they'll come across. I think they when they start
Speaker 1: to compare what Trump will do as president with what
Speaker 1: with what Hillary will do. And uh, that's the group
Speaker 1: that that we're gonna be I'm gonna be talking to
Speaker 1: and and uh, Tim Lee, that's what that's why he
Speaker 1: wrote this post today. And it's it's just, uh, it's
Speaker 1: just time to unite for the good of the country.
Speaker 1: And and I hope, I hope conservatives will do that.
Speaker 1: You know, liberals have been a lot better at at
Speaker 1: being pragmatic and and sticking together. And I hope conservatives
Speaker 1: will take a lesson from what the liberals have done
Speaker 1: over the last uh last few decades and and uh
Speaker 1: start working together instead of instead of fighting each other.
Speaker 1: And you know, maybe it'd be good if Donald Trump
Speaker 1: apologized to uh, to the some of the candidates that
Speaker 1: he had to attack to get his message across, and
Speaker 1: and uh and one other thing, Sean, you know, I
Speaker 1: just wonder if for a VP choice, if it wouldn't
Speaker 1: make sense for for Trump to choose a business person,
Speaker 1: some an outsider like himself who is not not not
Speaker 1: a career politician. I mean, that's that's what's gotten him
Speaker 1: where he is already. Well, actually, we're doing a poll
Speaker 1: right now on Hannity dot Com, and believe it or not,
Speaker 1: New King Ridge is in the lead of Marco Rubio seventeen,
Speaker 1: Carson sixteen, other which is what you're saying, thirteen, Cruise eleven,
Speaker 1: and that rounds out the top five. Um well, those
Speaker 1: are all good choices. But I just wonder if if
Speaker 1: it's if it would fit with his campaign to do
Speaker 1: a to choose a non a non political person to
Speaker 1: to be his running mate. It seems like that's what
Speaker 1: people are gravitating towards right now. I have no idea
Speaker 1: who that person would be, but it's, uh, this is
Speaker 1: something that's something to think about, all right. Jerry Fallwell Jr.
Speaker 1: Who is the president of Liberty University, Thank you sir,
Speaker 1: as always we uh. I think the call for unity
Speaker 1: is appropriate. I think it's gonna take some people time.
Speaker 1: I think these wounds are pretty wide open right now,
Speaker 1: and we'll see how things work out. Always good to
Speaker 1: be with Sean, I appreciate a one, Shawn, if you
Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get to our busy phones. Atlanta News Talk WSB.
Speaker 1: Shelley is next, Shelley, Hi, how are you glad you called? Hi?
Speaker 1: I'm doing great. Thanks. That's so excited to talk to you.
Speaker 1: Thank you. UM. I think that like the media and
Speaker 1: politicians are still kind of stumped by Trump's success and
Speaker 1: and it's still a little bit wrong and in understanding
Speaker 1: why he has succeeded. And I think that the religious
Speaker 1: right has held the Republican Party hostage for a really
Speaker 1: long time. It kind of ruinds me of what happened
Speaker 1: here in Georgia that UM I heard about one time
Speaker 1: after nine eleven when Cynthia McKinney was making just crazy
Speaker 1: statements and the people in that district. You that she
Speaker 1: that that district would always go Democrat. So the only
Speaker 1: way to affect the vote was for Republicans to register
Speaker 1: as Democrats and elect the other person in the in
Speaker 1: the primary. Um, just anyone except since the McKinney, And
Speaker 1: it seems like the religious rite kind of has that philosophy.
Speaker 1: They're like ten percent of the population but they control
Speaker 1: the primary and every four years they put forth the
Speaker 1: shame person in different clothes and they pound during in
Speaker 1: between elections. People want to talk about being fiscally conservative,
Speaker 1: fiscally conservativeiscally conservative, but from primary times they have to
Speaker 1: cow tow too anti abortion, like pro absolutely strictly pro life.
Speaker 1: Let's repeal legislation, I mean repeal rotary way that's like
Speaker 1: forty years old now, and maintrew America. I said over
Speaker 1: and over again, no, we don't want our peel it.
Speaker 1: But they get so focused on these on legislating morality
Speaker 1: and everything like that, that they don't put forth successful candidates.
Speaker 1: Let me add to this because every eggit pole in
Speaker 1: Indiana showed this last night. Jobs the economy number one.
Speaker 1: I've always said, peace and prosperity drive elections. Americans are
Speaker 1: out of work, government is out of control. Obamacare is
Speaker 1: a failure. There's no appetite to to rein in spending.
Speaker 1: There's no appetite to build a wall. There's no appetite
Speaker 1: to become energy and dependent. There's no appetite to fix
Speaker 1: a broken educational system. There's no appetite to to really
Speaker 1: take on in a serious, significant way. Radical Islam, there's
Speaker 1: no appetite to balance the budget, there's no appetite to
Speaker 1: to get better trade deals, and all of these things combined.
Speaker 1: You know, everyone has been saying, oh, Trumps not specific
Speaker 1: I beg to differ as somebody that's interviewed him a lot.
Speaker 1: I can tell you where he stands on all of
Speaker 1: these things. But you raise some good points. Now it's
Speaker 1: it's really Look, this primary was in the hands of
Speaker 1: the people. The idea that the people weren't informed is
Speaker 1: absolutely bogus. The idea that the people won't be informed
Speaker 1: in in November is equally bogus. And if the country
Speaker 1: has moved that far to the left that it will
Speaker 1: take on Hillary Clinton as its president, then you get
Speaker 1: the government you deserve, and you'll get the predictable results
Speaker 1: of the failure of liberal ideology. You know, I think
Speaker 1: I think it was new that actually describes Trump the best.
Speaker 1: He may do more to shatter He's not the conservative
Speaker 1: that Ted cruizes, but he does see instinctively how liberal government,
Speaker 1: the bureaucracy, the workings of government are failing dramatically. The
Speaker 1: people and both parties frankly share the blame in a
Speaker 1: lot of this anyway appreciated. Sarah is in Pennsylvania. Sarah, Hi,
Speaker 1: how are you. You're on the Sean Hannity Show. Oh, hi, Son,
Speaker 1: thank you very much for having me on. We are
Speaker 1: just it's so appreciative of the education and the knowledge
Speaker 1: that you've given us and expanded in this program. We're
Speaker 1: in our sixties, we are Democrats, and we are going
Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. And it's partially because a lot of
Speaker 1: some of you media people have given us such um education.
Speaker 1: That's really appreciated. But the main thing that I'm calling
Speaker 1: about today is I'm really really saddened and disgusted how
Speaker 1: a lot of these media's push that women are against Trump.
Speaker 1: I don't know where they're getting this. I really do
Speaker 1: not know where they're getting is. Because I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you an example, sir, of a wrestler. A wrestler is
Speaker 1: taught when he goes on that matt if it's a
Speaker 1: man or a woman, you wrestle them down. If they
Speaker 1: get to take down, then you pounder back. Now that's
Speaker 1: what he does. His own wife explained that, So why
Speaker 1: is it that some of these women that were demeaning
Speaker 1: or got him in these situations at times? Whether it
Speaker 1: was back in show business. It doesn't matter. That was
Speaker 1: a long time ago. But where are they getting this
Speaker 1: pull that women don't like him? Here in Pennsylvania we
Speaker 1: do and I can tell you, sir, at Pennce State Campus,
Speaker 1: they're all about him. So where are they coming up
Speaker 1: with some of these faults that I have to say
Speaker 1: your program and some of the others of of some
Speaker 1: of them have been positive, some of them have attacked
Speaker 1: him so much that not not compared to any of
Speaker 1: the others. So sometimes he's like in a constant match
Speaker 1: of countering and coming back. But his main trust is
Speaker 1: still what he loves America. He grew up respectful to veterans.
Speaker 1: He wants better for us. He's not saying we can't
Speaker 1: have foreigners. She's saying, you have to do this. So
Speaker 1: what's the problem. What's the problem? You know, to the
Speaker 1: extent that you know, people buzz buzz, bubble and fizz
Speaker 1: and give off their energy and mischaracterize a lot of physicians.
Speaker 1: It is. Part of it is amusing. Part of it
Speaker 1: is actually sad that um that people want to turn everything,
Speaker 1: especially the Democrats and liberals, they want to turn everything
Speaker 1: into a big fight in and advance that that predictable
Speaker 1: narrative that Republicans are racist, they hate Muslims, they hate
Speaker 1: black people, they hate Mexicans, they hate this. It's insane
Speaker 1: to me anyway. Appreciate the call I gotta run here.
Speaker 1: I apologize Sarah. I wish I had more time.