Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast is back in the Chris
Speaker 1: Westling podcast Studio. Welcome to another edition of Around the NFL.
Speaker 2: Yes, back in the Chris Westling Podcast Studio.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan, hansis Greg Rosenthal.
Speaker 2: And Mark Sessler.
Speaker 1: The whole gang tumbles cesse.
Speaker 3: I think for the first time in the history of
Speaker 3: this podcast, I am without laptop.
Speaker 4: That's what you're leading with.
Speaker 3: Yeah, during our break, I attempted it like, hey, I
Speaker 3: haven't seen you get well, No, it probably, I guess,
Speaker 3: so great to be back together.
Speaker 1: We'll find it is wonderful you're wearing black denim at
Speaker 1: the end of July, like you could have lead with that.
Speaker 4: Well the jackets back.
Speaker 3: I feel very naked though I have leave out despite
Speaker 3: what I'm wearing. Like it it's I got this laptop
Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen, and I tea about a month ago
Speaker 3: said you need this. This isn't even a functionally trackable
Speaker 3: product at our company where you need to get a
Speaker 3: new one. And I refuse to because I have all
Speaker 3: my stuff set up the way that you want to
Speaker 3: write a computer. I tempted to check email from home, yes,
Speaker 3: and I heard this just loud pop and the whole
Speaker 3: thing just turned off and it's gone.
Speaker 1: So it's terrible.
Speaker 3: I have no work, so it's a good I cannot do.
Speaker 3: I was gonna be productive to do any work.
Speaker 2: Are you yeah?
Speaker 1: Setting expectations near the floor for today's episode.
Speaker 2: Our first together in over a month, and here at
Speaker 2: the studio.
Speaker 3: I have created on my phone dense notes.
Speaker 2: Very nice.
Speaker 4: It was a little break for all of us from
Speaker 4: each other too. Were so up in each other's business
Speaker 4: that even one month apart in person felt felt like
Speaker 4: the longest that we've probably done since we stuck.
Speaker 2: How you doing? You doing well?
Speaker 4: I mean I got to see you guys, and good?
Speaker 4: So that was nice. We've texted and I'm feeling good
Speaker 4: with it. I'm feeling good to be back my parents.
Speaker 4: My family is not back, so I'm just so huh,
Speaker 4: I'm sola for a couple of.
Speaker 1: What have you?
Speaker 3: What have you done that you wouldn't want people to
Speaker 3: know about? In theirsence, I would be proud of it all,
Speaker 3: not hiding anything.
Speaker 4: It's not Barbie, you know. By myself, I don't know
Speaker 4: if I would want people to know that. I just
Speaker 4: decided to go by myself, was gonna go to the
Speaker 4: friend and that fell through. I was like, let's go,
Speaker 4: let's go, and it was great.
Speaker 1: Was it just you and a lot of teen girls?
Speaker 1: And it was a young police eyeing you suspiciously?
Speaker 4: It was a young crow.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's making massive money. I'm gonna go see
Speaker 3: the double bill soon, Barbenheimer Oppenheimer first and then Barbie after.
Speaker 2: Very nice.
Speaker 3: I can't even find a seat right now. It's sold out. It.
Speaker 2: I got nine thirty am tickets for the seventy millimeter.
Speaker 1: Brouh not Barbie Oppenheimer Friday, going at six am on Saturday.
Speaker 3: I'm not kidding. No, there's a six I believe, ye,
Speaker 3: I believe it set up in Hollywood. There's a six
Speaker 3: am and then you go see O Barbie at ten
Speaker 3: am afterwards and you're doing it.
Speaker 1: Yes, very nice. Without my laptop, that's at Hollywood Life.
Speaker 1: Sleep not necessary.
Speaker 4: On Hollywood Dad Life though, six am. Who else is
Speaker 4: there at six am? That's outrageous? Hack Theater, Greg.
Speaker 2: It's good to see.
Speaker 1: Here, though, Mark, I did you know the Goodwill hunting
Speaker 1: scene where Ben Affleck's character is like the best ten
Speaker 1: seconds of my day is when I walk up to
Speaker 1: the house and I think.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's not there. For me, it's the opposite.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I walk past this glass of the studio and
Speaker 1: I'm like, is Mark not going to be there?
Speaker 2: And that would be a horrible day. We haven't seen
Speaker 2: you in a long time.
Speaker 1: You're here, which means it looks like we'll get another
Speaker 1: season with Mark.
Speaker 3: I will be here for this season. There are multiple
Speaker 3: financial responsibilities that make sure that ensure that I will.
Speaker 2: Do about the money.
Speaker 3: You say, it's not It is about the passions and.
Speaker 1: Greg, all the guys, well, we are all back together.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 1: Today's show is a fun one because one of our
Speaker 1: best buds on the around the in the around the
Speaker 1: NFL universe, Connor Orr, is joining us for Team Slogans
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. But first, let's do some news.
Speaker 5: I've been exploring for Saints hed a touchdown for their
Speaker 5: own thirty four yard line to backfield. Breeze throws Jimmy Graham.
Speaker 6: Makes the catch inside of thine and Graham is in
Speaker 6: shot at ten and he takes it all the way
Speaker 6: for ay Saints go ahead touchdown sixty six yards from
Speaker 6: Breeze to Graham.
Speaker 2: No, dude, that was a long time ago.
Speaker 1: I believe that is the twenty twelve Divisional Playoff Classic
Speaker 1: between the Saints and Niners. In fact, Graham has a
Speaker 1: huge touchdown passed from Drew Brees to put the Saints ahead.
Speaker 1: And I believe that's the Vernon Davis game right where
Speaker 1: he makes you catch in the final seconds on a
Speaker 1: pass from Alex Smith and was it Smith?
Speaker 2: Seems that long ago.
Speaker 1: Trying on the field Vernon Davis a tremendous game in
Speaker 1: NFL playoff history. Jimmy Graham was the star of that
Speaker 1: Saints offense. But he we are all these years later
Speaker 1: and Jimmy Graham is back with the Saints after an
Speaker 1: eight year absence. They reached a deal the team with
Speaker 1: a thirty six year old. It's a one year deal.
Speaker 2: Greg. This one really was stunning to me.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a joke and I saw you
Speaker 1: send out the news rundown just because Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: out of football last year, but then he was really
Speaker 1: quiet the last couple of years in Chicago, and it
Speaker 1: felt like he was out of the league for about
Speaker 1: five years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently it was just one, but still wild. He's
Speaker 2: back in the NFL for now.
Speaker 4: I think, like a lot of people, I thought for
Speaker 4: a second. It was a one day contract that would
Speaker 4: make sense. I we usually try to lose you lead
Speaker 4: the news with like something that's the biggest impact, and
Speaker 4: I don't think this is necessarily making the biggest hit back.
Speaker 4: But it was such a like what moment and it
Speaker 4: reminded me back in very early days around the NFL
Speaker 4: podcast when we would be debating like Graham versus Gronk,
Speaker 4: Like Jimmy Graham like on track to be one of
Speaker 4: the great tight ends of all time? Is Jimmy Graham
Speaker 4: a Hall of famer if you look at his like
Speaker 4: all pros. Early in his career it fell off quick,
Speaker 4: But I do like that we just we bring in
Speaker 4: Derek Carr and we bring back Jimmy Graham. It's like
Speaker 4: everything's cool now.
Speaker 2: I know the Saints, are they weird? Get Drew Brees weird? Yeah?
Speaker 3: This is just I thought this was a since. I
Speaker 3: thought it was like, come and retire with us, come
Speaker 3: do a one day thing. And I don't know what
Speaker 3: you what you expect to get from at this point.
Speaker 3: I just I find it to be a very odd signing.
Speaker 3: It's just nostalgic. Mickey limis just going nostalgie on us.
Speaker 2: Let's go on with a step chart.
Speaker 4: You got Johan Johnson who they actually like him, very quiet,
Speaker 4: team friendly, good deal for both side contract this offseason
Speaker 4: where they paid him, which which I liked a former
Speaker 4: receiver taste it. You know, it had to have been
Speaker 4: Jimmy Graham reaching out and saying, I'm working out every day,
Speaker 4: just give me a chance. They're not giving him much money, like,
Speaker 4: and they felt like, all right, well we'll take a
Speaker 4: look at you.
Speaker 1: How long ago was that playoff moment for Jimmy Graham
Speaker 1: after he ran to the end zone. Shocking, And that's
Speaker 1: one of my favorite sports things when you make a
Speaker 1: huge play in a game on the road and you
Speaker 1: could hear the crowd go from a roar, deafening roar
Speaker 1: for the home team to more of like a scattered
Speaker 1: yelling of the visiting fans. And also there's always women
Speaker 1: screaming for the home team, just I think in just
Speaker 1: like agony of what's happened when you hear that, that's
Speaker 1: the ultimate road trip situation for a scoring Sorry, my
Speaker 1: Apple watch distracted me. Then he slams it over the
Speaker 1: upright the crossbar, which has been illegal. I thought for
Speaker 1: twenty seven years, but apparently, you know, at that time
Speaker 1: it was legal. They allowed him to do it. And
Speaker 1: let's come back to the future. And women screamed. They
Speaker 1: screamed in other and I'm sure there were some men
Speaker 1: screaming too. Shut out.
Speaker 3: It's everyone everyone, children, everyone's screaming together.
Speaker 1: No children were screaming. They were very under control in
Speaker 1: that moment. Saquon Barkley and the Giants, here's another head scratcher.
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley has been with other running backs, really upset
Speaker 1: about the market and all that We've talked about it
Speaker 1: on the show. I said, I was really intrigued and
Speaker 1: slash shook about the text chain that all the running
Speaker 1: backs are on. And then they did a zoom call
Speaker 1: twenty twenty style that got me noivous, Like what are
Speaker 1: these guys up to? It'd be sad, Just like this
Speaker 1: will make you sad.
Speaker 4: Take them, Nick Chubb and all these guys like using
Speaker 4: their Saturday night on a zoom call.
Speaker 2: It's sad.
Speaker 1: The Giants and Sequon Barkley greet the terms on a
Speaker 1: one year contract worth up to eleven million. Rap Sheet
Speaker 1: reported Tuesday morning. For sources informed of the situation. The
Speaker 1: deal includes a two million dollars signing bonus. The Giants,
Speaker 1: you may remember, place the franchise tag on Barkley worth
Speaker 1: ten point zero nine to one million, which is a
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed contract. And you try to figure out what
Speaker 1: does this mean and all it is. It looks like
Speaker 1: to me, Mark is you know, you know it's in
Speaker 1: the NFL with salaries you usually think of sweetener. It's
Speaker 1: a few million bucks. This is under a million dollars
Speaker 1: in terms of incentives Barkley can hit. I guess it's
Speaker 1: some type of compromise, but really not much. It just
Speaker 1: again shows you what's going on for running backs who
Speaker 1: can't get the respect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's just there's zero leverage, and I
Speaker 3: mean the idea that Barkley would have skipped games or
Speaker 3: missed time. It's a no win situation I think for
Speaker 3: these running backs. And like I heard Chris sim say
Speaker 3: something interesting that like where did this all begin? Like
Speaker 3: where does this chard back to? Like the devaluation? And
Speaker 3: I think you could look at the Shanahans with their
Speaker 3: wide zone scheme that like you could plug almost anyone
Speaker 3: in and they're super productive, and it's like the running
Speaker 3: back value has nose dived, and I think Barkley's just
Speaker 3: the latest example of it. I mean, it's just there's
Speaker 3: no way to win in this situation contract wise.
Speaker 4: I think some of it's just timing though, like Joe Mixon,
Speaker 4: Dalvin Cook, Christian McCaffrey all got huge contracts that wasn't
Speaker 4: that long ago, and they were good players, and there
Speaker 4: hasn't been like great running backs coming up. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: I'm curious to see what kind of deal Chubb gets.
Speaker 4: The thing that was most surprising to me about this
Speaker 4: was I don't know if my old boss Floria was
Speaker 4: on the Zoom call or if you just heard like
Speaker 4: a play by play, because apparently everyone on the Zoom
Speaker 4: call left the Zoom call knowing that Saquon was like,
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna hold out. I'm not really planning on that,
Speaker 4: and Josh Jacobs on the Zoom call kind of made
Speaker 4: it clear like I'm I'm mad, I'm going home, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna push this thing. I'm like, who's on this Zoom call?
Speaker 4: So I guess Saquon had no leverage. The incentives are interesting,
Speaker 4: they're they're pretty reachable, so he got a little something
Speaker 4: He got a little upfront money too with the signing bonus,
Speaker 4: but he didn't get any promise. Our Mike Garriffolo pointed
Speaker 4: out that they wouldn't tag him again. So if he
Speaker 4: actually has a good year and he gets those incentives,
Speaker 4: you know, why wouldn't they just tag him again. It's
Speaker 4: a tough spot.
Speaker 1: But that's why this was so confused. First of all,
Speaker 1: I didn't realize. I thought that July seventeenth deadline for
Speaker 1: working out a deal was it, But apparently that's just
Speaker 1: for a long term deal. You could still work out
Speaker 1: a deal for a one year contract. But to me,
Speaker 1: if Barkley runs for two thousand yards this year, wouldn't
Speaker 1: be the only positive of the way this played out
Speaker 1: this year was you eliminate them being able to use
Speaker 1: that tag on you for now year? Was that worth
Speaker 1: maybe in a million a million bucks incentives this year?
Speaker 2: I don't. None of it makes sense to me. It's
Speaker 2: making my brain hurt.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Saquon because he's making this money
Speaker 1: in his quarterback, who he's a better football player than,
Speaker 1: is making like triple the amount of him, And it's
Speaker 1: just kind of weird.
Speaker 4: But the triggers by the way thirteen hundred and fifty
Speaker 4: rushing years, says a lot, sixty five catches, eleven touchdowns,
Speaker 4: and the team making the playoffs. It's probably spread through
Speaker 4: all those.
Speaker 2: To make what and that will trigger what kind of.
Speaker 4: Nine hundred thousand total?
Speaker 2: How bizarre is this? Pennies?
Speaker 1: So he gave up the right to make the franchise
Speaker 1: tag prohibitive for the team to make potentially nine hundred
Speaker 1: grand if he hits a ton of incentives, including one
Speaker 1: that he can't really control the team making the playoffs.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel like the relationship with the Giants will be
Speaker 3: over after this season.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Flora also reported the Giants desperately try to trade him
Speaker 1: after tagging him initially, calling up double digit teams couldn't
Speaker 1: find a deal. So I would if I was him,
Speaker 1: I would also feel unloved and a weird spot. Let's
Speaker 1: move on. Let's check in with the Raiders. A lot
Speaker 1: cooking with the Raiders. Let's start with the Las Vegas
Speaker 1: Review Journal confirms that Jimmy Garoppolo will have quote no
Speaker 1: restrictions and Raiders can't be avoided the pup list on Sunday,
Speaker 1: and the Raiders feel really good about Jimmy G going
Speaker 1: full bore in the summer. What could go wrong? This
Speaker 1: is positive obviously, Mark, because there are reports in the
Speaker 1: early summer like his foot might not be right. They
Speaker 1: might be able to get out of this deal, and
Speaker 1: it smelled like a potential boondoggle. Hey, this could still
Speaker 1: be a boondoggle depending on how he holds up physically
Speaker 1: this summer and through the year. But at least they
Speaker 1: can go into the season with Brian Hoyer not taking
Speaker 1: first team reps.
Speaker 3: Well, right, I mean, I always felt like Jimmy G
Speaker 3: would be back in time for this, but like they
Speaker 3: really had no plan beyond him, and I think I
Speaker 3: viewed the Raiders as like a highly disorganized scenario at
Speaker 3: this point. I just I don't quite get what was
Speaker 3: going on with the Raiders in general. But Jimmy G's
Speaker 3: health was pivotal. And I mean, I think they always
Speaker 3: wanted Tom Brady. I think that was kind of their
Speaker 3: plan going into the off season. This was planned B,
Speaker 3: but Plan B would have turned into a very awful plan.
Speaker 2: See, had he not been healthy.
Speaker 4: We're hoping to have on a rap sheet in Rapaport
Speaker 4: on Wednesday. This was one of the things I was
Speaker 4: kind of wanted to ask him the Vegas situation. He
Speaker 4: was tight with McDaniels back in the day when he
Speaker 4: was covering the just there's a lot, there's a lot
Speaker 4: cooking there. I mentioned Jacobs and like he left Vegas,
Speaker 4: like the city he left Vegas and our Pallisero, the
Speaker 4: pell raiser said he he's not planning to come back
Speaker 4: anytime soon. It is one hundred and fifteen degrees there
Speaker 4: every day and people probably are like, you know, asking
Speaker 4: him on the street, I would get out of thereet.
Speaker 2: I can't do more than like three days in Vegas.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine doing the entire summer.
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters, formerly of the Ravens, signs a one year
Speaker 1: deal with the Raiders as well, so they get think that.
Speaker 4: Was really good, exciting. I think he'll start for them.
Speaker 4: See if he's got any he still could play. Last
Speaker 4: year he was okay, yes, in the tank.
Speaker 1: In other news, let's talk about the twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: team of around the NFL, the Detroit Lions. Jamison Williams
Speaker 1: already facing a six game suspension for violating the NFL's
Speaker 1: gambling policy this season. He's gonna miss time now, in
Speaker 1: training camp. This is all just ominous with Jamison Williams.
Speaker 1: He suffered a leg injury on Monday and we'll miss
Speaker 1: at least a few days of training camp. He is
Speaker 1: an important player for them. They hope to have him
Speaker 1: back obviously sometime in the fall. He's got to stay healthy.
Speaker 1: He missed a lot of last season coming off a
Speaker 1: college knee injury. Williams, it's time for him to get
Speaker 1: in the news for things other than negative things that
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to wait some time for that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's up time of like training cap. You don't
Speaker 4: want to overreact to like who's on the pup list
Speaker 4: who's not, But that one that was a little bit
Speaker 4: of an eyebrow raiser and then Chauncey Gardner Johnson getting
Speaker 4: hurt early. But it doesn't look like it's going to
Speaker 4: be two sis.
Speaker 1: In otherwide receiver news don't like this one either, A
Speaker 1: Chiefs head coach Andy Reid said Kadarius Tony underwent knee
Speaker 1: surgery to clean up cartilage. According to rap Sheet, he
Speaker 1: tweaked it in his knee in training camp last week.
Speaker 1: We will see how long he'll be out. Could be
Speaker 1: for weeks though it could be an extended absence, putting
Speaker 1: Tony's week one in question, And Mark, isn't this the
Speaker 1: whole thing? And we're all excited about Utarius Tony having
Speaker 1: a full year with Patrick Mahones and being potentially a
Speaker 1: number one guy, But this has been his story.
Speaker 3: He can't stay healthy, absolutely the narrative, and like it's
Speaker 3: like they they need him. I think they need him
Speaker 3: to be I don't know what the number one wide
Speaker 3: receiver part of it will see, because it's like his
Speaker 3: availability is always in question, but their offense without him
Speaker 3: loses a major dynamic weapon. I thought that he was
Speaker 3: one of the biggest reasons that they surged down the
Speaker 3: stretch won the Super Bowl the way they used him,
Speaker 3: and like you were hoping to see that from week
Speaker 3: one and it's like we'll even be there.
Speaker 4: He got hurt in the first special team's portion of practice.
Speaker 4: You know when we go to the summer practice and
Speaker 4: they kind of not goofing around, but they're doing special
Speaker 4: teams before the real practice start. Like he didn't make
Speaker 4: it to that real practice on the first day, and
Speaker 4: that's why it's like he did a lot of honking
Speaker 4: and might as well enjoy it. When you're the Super
Speaker 4: Bowl champion. But it's a lot of honkin And I'm
Speaker 4: a huge Tony fan, like to giants like I'm gonna
Speaker 4: be the number one guy, and it's like you can't
Speaker 4: even make it through the first first practice. It's depressing.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs also won't have Chris Jones on the field,
Speaker 1: at least initially in training camp. He did not report
Speaker 1: to camp a midst ongoing contract negotiations. He wants to
Speaker 1: be one of the highest paid defensive linemen in the league.
Speaker 1: Kansas City has to try to figure out how to
Speaker 1: make it work with the Defensive Player of the Year
Speaker 1: finalists and in other Superstars Defender news, it is just
Speaker 1: came down the wire from pell Raiser. Forty nine Ers
Speaker 1: coach Kyle Shanahan says he doesn't expect star edge rusher
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa to practice without a new contract, so money matters.
Speaker 4: So is Bosa there though in like not hold in
Speaker 4: and is it a hold in hold in? So for listeners,
Speaker 4: I don't know if you're that interested in this, but
Speaker 4: this new CBA you can be fined fifty thout. You
Speaker 4: have to be fined fifty thousand dollars a day and
Speaker 4: they say in the CBA that they can't just wave
Speaker 4: it later, like like you used to be able to.
Speaker 4: I think Bosa there was whispers that it might be
Speaker 4: a hold in. It sounds like Daniel Hunter, the the
Speaker 4: defensive end for the Vikings who's kind of been in
Speaker 4: a contract dispute of offseason, is doing something similar. But
Speaker 4: Cowboys guard Zach Martin is not showing up to camp.
Speaker 4: Chris Jones is not showing up to camp. Those guys
Speaker 4: are are made men, but fifty thousand dollars a day
Speaker 4: is a lot. So it's interesting because very few veterans
Speaker 4: have tried this out since it's happened.
Speaker 2: It's a little funny.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, Mark, what without the laptop, you just
Speaker 1: have your phone in between your arms, and I feel
Speaker 1: there's a level of anxiety.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's I.
Speaker 3: Like, the laptop just was this thing that i've you know,
Speaker 3: it's like a par piece of my body.
Speaker 2: Right, That's why you led with it out of our
Speaker 2: long break.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like Mark shows up, you know, three hours
Speaker 4: early to shows and stuff. He just likes to be comfortable,
Speaker 4: be familiar, no surprise. So I'm seeing that because you
Speaker 4: had mentioned the computer situation to us, but.
Speaker 3: Over text because I knew that I knew it would
Speaker 3: have anything lined up with it. I visited with them
Speaker 3: and they gave me a mysterious answer, So I'm not
Speaker 3: sure they actually were not secure that I could get
Speaker 3: a new laptop.
Speaker 4: If you, if you do watch on YouTube, and you
Speaker 4: should subscribe. You know we're a big show. We need
Speaker 4: those subscribers up. We're bigger audioized, certainly than YouTube. Then
Speaker 4: you can see Mark's little little phone.
Speaker 3: You are right that I got here hours ago and
Speaker 3: ended up eating like breakfast alone in my car, like
Speaker 3: non dioscomat like I just thought it was a very
Speaker 3: strange morning leading up to this entire show.
Speaker 4: Strange if there's plenty of tables and.
Speaker 2: Like three people in it right now.
Speaker 4: So just about up there, there's literally a whole cafeteria
Speaker 4: with indoor tables, outdoor tables.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to be alone, and I eat alone
Speaker 3: up there all the time, like no one's gonna I
Speaker 3: can't explain.
Speaker 1: You're not at a celebrity at the level of Mark.
Speaker 1: He can't be out in the open. He won't be
Speaker 1: able to even have a bite with U.
Speaker 4: He doesn't watch any shadowy league execs coming up and
Speaker 4: like asking him how his summer went.
Speaker 1: Yes, any colleagues, bosses, Oh hey, what's up, Mark, how's
Speaker 1: your summer been?
Speaker 3: That is to you the hell that you can't even
Speaker 3: You could come find me in my car and knock
Speaker 3: on the window. Perhaps I roll it down, maybe like awesome, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you'll you'll turn that kind of weird story into
Speaker 4: a surprisingly successful Hollywood career as an actor.
Speaker 1: This is what he's in Hollywood feels like a stretch
Speaker 1: got the jacket.
Speaker 2: NFL networks to raise are all over the news reports inhim.
Speaker 1: Hines, the Bill's running back, separate a significant knee injury
Speaker 1: off site and is expected to miss the entire twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three season.
Speaker 2: You know what he did.
Speaker 4: He's on a damn jets but the details will let
Speaker 4: you you won't blame him for it.
Speaker 2: Well, he got crashed.
Speaker 4: He was on a stationary one like at the dock.
Speaker 2: He got banged in a big spot.
Speaker 3: These water sports are very perilous.
Speaker 1: And imagine imagine the goon, the goober who's racing towards
Speaker 1: this running back, ready to assume a key role on
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl contender, and just slams into his leg.
Speaker 3: What do we know who the other? Was it a
Speaker 3: man or a female or a male or female?
Speaker 2: I'm not sure a man or a woman.
Speaker 4: Might have been a Jets fan or something good.
Speaker 2: Vin. Yeah, we were targeting the heem Hines. That is
Speaker 2: the key. Don't break.
Speaker 4: I mean he had had some big verment those returns.
Speaker 4: Remember week eighteen where was it? Were Electric actually make
Speaker 4: their backfield?
Speaker 1: Then if it was Robert Sala, right, would that be
Speaker 1: the biggest NFL story of the last twenty years.
Speaker 3: That's Sala intentionally jet skid into Hines. That would be
Speaker 3: a large story.
Speaker 2: No, the biggest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's let's keep Aaron Hernandez and so forth
Speaker 1: out of it. Like in terms of non murder news,
Speaker 1: would it be the biggest story the head coach of
Speaker 1: the Jets now Sawny hem Hines is such a threat
Speaker 1: that he rented a jet ski and crashed it into
Speaker 1: the knee of the It's not a story that would
Speaker 1: go away very quickly.
Speaker 4: I don't think he'd be the biggest. It'd be fun.
Speaker 4: It'd be more fun if he hired someone and then
Speaker 4: like someone connected the dots, like they have text messages
Speaker 4: of him like going on a Reddit site. Is Connor
Speaker 4: on by the way, I feel bad for Nah.
Speaker 1: All right, we gotta we gotta move on. We gotta
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Speaker 3: On the case I we'll be sitting here. They have
Speaker 3: not asked us to do a shred leverage on there.
Speaker 2: Put us in coach Greg, put a bow on it.
Speaker 4: You better be careful what you wish for.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's a good point. Take a break and
Speaker 1: we'll bring in Connor or.
Speaker 2: Toknap. This is a serious.
Speaker 1: Welcome joining us now is an all time sab I
Speaker 1: want to put him on Mount Rushmore. Put him on
Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore, fight me on it. He is from Sports Illustrated.
Speaker 1: He wrote the Sauce Gardener cover story you saw a
Speaker 1: couple of months back, and now he's back for another
Speaker 1: appearance on Around the NFL.
Speaker 2: It's Connor or are you kidding me?
Speaker 7: Hello? Everybody?
Speaker 2: Hello? Body were doing?
Speaker 4: We'll be talking Mount Rushmore of guests.
Speaker 2: How about because he was of the show.
Speaker 4: I mean he was once a member of Around the NFL,
Speaker 4: you know the news black We never really I.
Speaker 2: Feel I could be.
Speaker 1: I'd be selling Connor short to say that he's on
Speaker 1: that Mount Rushmore. I just mean, like anyone connected with
Speaker 1: the show. If you say I have to put four people,
Speaker 1: I'm putting or on, Okay.
Speaker 3: And also like if you're gonna have to carve his
Speaker 3: face into a you know, a Dakota mountain side. The
Speaker 3: current version of Connor ORR is about his fit and
Speaker 3: ready to go as we've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Is that a jawline? I see there, sir.
Speaker 7: I was recently called overweight, which was funny. I approached
Speaker 7: I was approached by an older gentleman at the beach,
Speaker 7: and he looked at me and he said, what happened
Speaker 7: to you? I used to be in such good shape?
Speaker 7: This vaguely yeah, so I'm I'm getting ready to go now.
Speaker 7: That pumped me up for this connor.
Speaker 2: That story is so bizarre. Wait, who is this?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't go any we have team slogans of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three to get to. But how well did
Speaker 1: you know this man is a family friend? Did you
Speaker 1: go to the beach with him? Did you happen upon
Speaker 1: us his book?
Speaker 7: Like I saw him. I've seen him a few times,
Speaker 7: and I guess in between the last time, in the
Speaker 7: current time, which was about a year and a half,
Speaker 7: I would say separated, he said that I gained an
Speaker 7: unacceptable amount of weight.
Speaker 3: An what an untoward approach. We're not getting the full
Speaker 3: story here. No, well, I don't know what.
Speaker 1: He seems to carry some type of grudge against And
Speaker 1: it's like speaking for millions of Americans and people across
Speaker 1: the world that struggle with weight.
Speaker 2: And you'll go up and down at times in your life.
Speaker 1: Just talk about it in private. Don't say it to me,
Speaker 1: don't approach me. I'm already aware of my body. Maybe
Speaker 1: I haven't been on the peloton. Maybe I've been on vacation, Like,
Speaker 1: let me work out my stuff. Don't come to me
Speaker 1: on the beach when I got my shirt off in
Speaker 1: my most vulnerable state face.
Speaker 3: And to Greg's question, what was his what? What did
Speaker 3: the old man's body look like himself?
Speaker 7: Phenomenal?
Speaker 2: Like that's not.
Speaker 7: Even worse like early Austrian Schwarzenegger, you know, like so you.
Speaker 1: Know it is what it is.
Speaker 2: Hey Connor, I'm sorry, man, y'ar enough, you know, I know,
Speaker 2: how are you, buddy?
Speaker 1: Before we get into the slogans, You're very busy, So
Speaker 1: I'm curious, like, what is SI got you going? You're
Speaker 1: going around the country visiting a bunch of camps. You
Speaker 1: got what you got going on?
Speaker 7: We're doing some we're doing some training camp tour stuff.
Speaker 7: The football preview issues coming out soon. We have a
Speaker 7: lot of fun projects planned for the year that I'm
Speaker 7: very excited about that we're working on. So I would
Speaker 7: just get the plug in now. You subscribe to the
Speaker 7: magazine now and you'll get all of that stuff, you know.
Speaker 7: So that's that's what I would do. I would hop
Speaker 7: on the old computer and uh and figure that out.
Speaker 1: Right, and you could find uh connor on X at
Speaker 1: uh an.
Speaker 7: So wait are we doing threads? That are we doing X?
Speaker 3: I cannot handle threads. I did threads for about two
Speaker 3: days and I was just like, this is utterly worthless.
Speaker 3: I will not spend a second of my life doing
Speaker 3: another thread.
Speaker 1: The best part of the best part of this ongoing
Speaker 1: saga is everyone on Twitter like getting all like you know,
Speaker 1: they're underpants, and a bunch like.
Speaker 2: Well, well this is it.
Speaker 1: Here's my threads, and then like two weeks later, Oh,
Speaker 1: I can't take this anymore.
Speaker 2: Here's my threads. See you over there. It's like, why
Speaker 2: do you keep coming back?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you said you were going.
Speaker 4: I think if if threads fixes the algorithm where it's
Speaker 4: like where it's like Twitter, eventually that could potentially be
Speaker 4: an option. But as annoying as X is, as like
Speaker 4: a title like it's on us, we got to just
Speaker 4: keep calling it Twitter. The fact that wrote the world,
Speaker 4: and I don't know if anyone saw that that works
Speaker 4: there listens to this show. But the fact that they're
Speaker 4: going Ian Rappaport on X as the link that they're
Speaker 4: linking to. You don't have to do that. You're making
Speaker 4: that choice.
Speaker 2: Journalistically, they do.
Speaker 4: No, they don't. They could just say on Twitter, if
Speaker 4: you go to Twitter dot com, it still works, like.
Speaker 1: You could call it the website formerly known as Twitter.
Speaker 1: I mean, you want to be accurate that the owner
Speaker 1: did change.
Speaker 4: Then I see Tom pelisero on X. I'm thinking all
Speaker 4: sorts of stuff.
Speaker 7: I would never I would never google Tom pelisero on X.
Speaker 7: I think that would be my approach, though. I honestly
Speaker 7: thought when I when I was asked to start a threads,
Speaker 7: I was like, Okay, what would Mark do, because he's
Speaker 7: sort of my north star for a lot of social
Speaker 7: media stuff, and I did. I just started. I started
Speaker 7: posting pictures of dB Cooper, just no links to anything,
Speaker 7: just just pictures of dB Cooper. And I was like,
Speaker 7: that way I can build a base over here by
Speaker 7: really talking about what I'm passionate about, and then once
Speaker 7: Twitter firebombs out of existence, then I can just pop
Speaker 7: over here. And I got my dB Cooper folks.
Speaker 2: I love the approach.
Speaker 3: I've only used it to post strange photos and it's like,
Speaker 3: I will not be duplicating the tweet that I put
Speaker 3: out on threads, Like then then we're just dipping into
Speaker 3: ultra narcissism, and I just I don't need it.
Speaker 4: I'm going to take both of them off my face.
Speaker 4: You're you're I'm done with It's like, why am I
Speaker 4: on Threads? Why I was two weeks ago.
Speaker 3: Then I realized I don't need to be doing this this.
Speaker 3: I don't need to take this going either.
Speaker 1: My outlook on this is I'm going forward full Jordan Belfort,
Speaker 1: Wolf of Wall Street.
Speaker 2: I'm not going anywhere because it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: This goober is gonna sell it eventually, and then whoever
Speaker 1: buys its back, Oh, we're gonna bring it back to
Speaker 1: what it was and it will be Twitter again and
Speaker 1: the bird will be back, and then everybody will be
Speaker 1: back from threat. But people aren't even leaving to go
Speaker 1: to Threads. It's not really happenings taking your heels and
Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, not supporting the name change or anything,
Speaker 1: but I don't really care that much. Everybody's going to
Speaker 1: relax a little bit. He's doing it on purpose. He's
Speaker 1: trying to get you mad. Don't let him get you mad, Connor.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a team slogan, right, don't let him
Speaker 1: get you mad. We every year this time, we go
Speaker 1: through the entirety of the NFL, and what we try
Speaker 1: to do is come up collectively with a not collected.
Speaker 1: We all kind of throw them out team slogan that
Speaker 1: matches what we believe the team is trying to say,
Speaker 1: or maybe what kind of best represents where we see
Speaker 1: the team right now. We do it in alphabetical order
Speaker 1: and counter. I think we should just get into it
Speaker 1: and starting with the Arizona Cardinals, do you have anything
Speaker 1: for the Cards? Car just basically everybody the exercise you
Speaker 1: didn't have to do all thirty two when you were
Speaker 1: struck by inspiration, you hit it up. Anybody struck by
Speaker 1: the Cardinals count or anybody else.
Speaker 7: I did too, if that's okay. Of course I did
Speaker 7: a little extra credit. The first one was now featuring
Speaker 7: complimentary lunch limit one per customer, premium item menu items
Speaker 7: subject to additional search charge.
Speaker 2: Smart move got to get the meat in the seats
Speaker 2: deep cut.
Speaker 4: There was that report from the NFLPA that people were
Speaker 4: paying for their food and the Cardinals cafeteria, and I
Speaker 4: think that's that's a big step for the Cardinals, Like
Speaker 4: they might not win, but you can take the that
Speaker 4: little croissant and it was great.
Speaker 2: Not get charged. Do we know that the NFL doing it?
Speaker 4: Actually, I don't know according to your slogan, yes.
Speaker 3: They did, course correct.
Speaker 2: I believe on the food. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It reminds me in a Major League when they have
Speaker 1: the propeller plane and they're taping up one of the
Speaker 1: propellers with electrical tape like it makes me. It doesn't
Speaker 1: inspire confidence in any realm of the organization. To that point,
Speaker 1: my slogan I have is look away, I'm hideous.
Speaker 3: Mine was my slogan for the Arizona Cardinals was focus
Speaker 3: more on the suns.
Speaker 2: Yamm they got the right.
Speaker 4: It was not inspired by the Cardinals. I sort of
Speaker 4: left the NFC West for last, thinking we'd do it last,
Speaker 4: and like during the show.
Speaker 2: Who did the same thing last year?
Speaker 1: We went out at the quarter and then you even
Speaker 1: skipped the NFC North in entirety because you just forgot
Speaker 1: about them.
Speaker 2: We're going out at quals.
Speaker 4: Those were so good though. Sometimes though, when you hear
Speaker 4: the good ones and you have others that not, you know,
Speaker 4: you just stand down and I'm not gonna touch.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. Did you have another Red Birds one Connor?
Speaker 7: Along those same lines. Come see the world's only triple
Speaker 7: F rated resort. Cardinals are the only team in the
Speaker 7: NFLPA survey to get three f's UFA's.
Speaker 1: Phenomenon UFA Yes, strange times. Down in the desert Atlanta Falcons,
Speaker 1: I got one here. Everybody's little pet team is ready
Speaker 1: to stop using the indoor peepads. You know, they're ready
Speaker 1: to actually be a good team. You know, so, you guys,
Speaker 1: it's on.
Speaker 4: Your radar that Mark especially enjoys the Falcon. I like
Speaker 4: the idea of it is not on the raid. We're
Speaker 4: not like they're gonna win the Super Bowl, dough. We
Speaker 4: just enjoy their style.
Speaker 1: But I think one thing, Mark, you, I think it
Speaker 1: may be is a little irritating that I've gotten a
Speaker 1: little into the Falcons this year as a team to watch.
Speaker 1: But it's just because I didn't believe the team of
Speaker 1: the last two years.
Speaker 2: I thought that was premature. Now I think maybe they
Speaker 2: could be a little bit frisky.
Speaker 3: Maybe well, I mean, I feel like we've been battling
Speaker 3: over this team for a number of seasons. I do
Speaker 3: believe them. My slogan is the son of a shipping magnate.
Speaker 3: Our coach is the author of an old school playbook
Speaker 3: sets a stun gun a soft NFC South. You will
Speaker 3: be eating our juices on a late winter day.
Speaker 2: Gross, eating the juice.
Speaker 3: You will be eating our juices on a late winter day.
Speaker 4: I was wondering if the years of doing these slogans
Speaker 4: would would shorten them, because you've seen slogans for other
Speaker 4: companies certainly since, and it would change your behavior.
Speaker 3: But no, and I like that some of them are short,
Speaker 3: some of them are.
Speaker 4: I think the Falcons could could go short, just kind
Speaker 4: of leaning into who they are as a team this year.
Speaker 4: Two words keep pounding. Oh, they steal it, they take it.
Speaker 4: They're the real keep pounding.
Speaker 1: Wait we have we have the real keep pounding guy
Speaker 1: here and Connor or you just got to let him
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: Give us one Connor. It's also tradition they pound.
Speaker 4: I just think, like what the Panthers would be totally
Speaker 4: on their heels. Grad Yeah, it'd be amazing that guy
Speaker 4: didn't make it out of sixth grade. Whoever that character is?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: How about the Baltimore Ravens. I'm sure you got one, Greg,
Speaker 1: you are a Ravens guy.
Speaker 4: I do another two order Lamar coming you lean into
Speaker 4: the wire. You could, you can, you could have a
Speaker 4: little fun with this too. You know, Omar coming, and
Speaker 4: it's like, this is the real Lamar. Lamar has been shackled,
Speaker 4: Get off the street corners. Lamar is coming this year.
Speaker 1: Let's now that you say that because I did check
Speaker 1: out the podcast from last year. Yeah, here is Greg's
Speaker 1: Ravens slogan from last year.
Speaker 4: This one's just simple. Oh you made Lamar mad, didn't you.
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Okay, the Lamar army is strong with the Yes, Lamar
Speaker 1: is gonna be better because everyone's so right.
Speaker 4: Similarly would be just like Lamar is gonna yeah, but
Speaker 4: that had no friends to a classic Baltimore television classic line.
Speaker 4: That's totally different.
Speaker 1: But it's the same sentiment, like Lamar's here, Everything's gonna
Speaker 1: be fine.
Speaker 2: But now.
Speaker 4: We've gotten rid of Greg Roman and it's Todd Munkin
Speaker 4: for who, for some reason everyone just assumes is gonna
Speaker 4: like create the best NFL offense even though like he
Speaker 4: last ran the twenty eighteen bucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, mine for the Ravens is no excuses, just kidding,
Speaker 1: there will always be excuses.
Speaker 2: No, mine was for the Ravens.
Speaker 3: Theories as to what caused Edgar Allan Poe's death includes suicide, murder, cholera,
Speaker 3: Rabi's syphilis, influenza, a brain tumor, and heavy alcohol usage.
Speaker 2: Always a target in this exercise.
Speaker 7: I went with, it's eighteen games to the super Bowl.
Speaker 7: We have a full tank of gas, one ACL, it's
Speaker 7: dark and we're wearing sunglasses.
Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: I got out for this one, tough one.
Speaker 7: I just went with sort of an exhausted like we
Speaker 7: did our best, Like you know this this place like
Speaker 7: it's cold, it's it's not a fun place to work.
Speaker 7: We tried, we almost made the Super Bowl. Like the
Speaker 7: stadium's falling down, and it's just like, what what more
Speaker 7: do you guys want? Just you know, we we we
Speaker 7: did as best as we could. It's time time to move.
Speaker 3: You can see that slogan on the side of a bill.
Speaker 2: I think that that fits.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're working on the NFL preview for Sports Illustrated. Yeah,
Speaker 1: CONAI can kind of predict where you see them standing
Speaker 1: in the AFC East come January.
Speaker 2: You're talking about the organization in the past tense.
Speaker 7: I have them because we predict all two hundred and
Speaker 7: seventy two games. I predict all two hundred and seventy
Speaker 7: two games every year, and I have them at a place
Speaker 7: where I know the day that it comes out, I
Speaker 7: will just be ignoring every phone call from like a
Speaker 7: seven to one six code, being like, can you come
Speaker 7: on the radio and talk about why you don't think
Speaker 7: the Bills are going to make the playoffs?
Speaker 4: You're definitely getting a call from the Steve Tasker show.
Speaker 2: Oh, big time Taskers hitting up.
Speaker 4: That actually kind of relates to mine, which is our
Speaker 4: fans are about to turn annoying, and I just feel
Speaker 4: like they are at the point like once you achieve
Speaker 4: a little bit of success and you start feeling yourself,
Speaker 4: but you haven't gotten over that hump, that's the point
Speaker 4: where the worm turns. I just feel like this could
Speaker 4: be a tough season. I had actually deleted that because
Speaker 4: I didn't want these to be all negative and cynical
Speaker 4: like they were last year. But no one else was
Speaker 4: jumping in with the Bills when they were a tough team.
Speaker 1: They're a tough one. They're just a remarkable amount of
Speaker 1: pressure on that team. The Carolina Panthers a big blank
Speaker 1: spot on my Excel spreadsheet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you said, like you know when you're inspired
Speaker 3: to write about one of these teams, and I did
Speaker 3: about twenty to twenty one of these. The Panthers did
Speaker 3: not inspire much same.
Speaker 4: I feel like because they have it. That's the slogan.
Speaker 4: They have the greatest slogan of all time, Connor, which
Speaker 4: is why why improve on Perfection?
Speaker 7: Lists the person who the only person who apparently completed
Speaker 7: the prompt here, I'll read the I I'll read the
Speaker 7: one that I did. My My slogan is death is
Speaker 7: nothing but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily,
Speaker 7: which is a quote from a very famous short assassin
Speaker 7: named Napoleon. And now they're quarterbacked by another.
Speaker 4: Sure the linkage there, I think the original is still better.
Speaker 1: All right, the Chicago Bears, I got this guy better
Speaker 1: be worth it. They did, They did it all the
Speaker 1: dies here they I think we all kind of agreed
Speaker 1: with their path.
Speaker 4: But now, okay or even Ryan Poles, it allows for interpretation.
Speaker 2: But that that's where the bear is that the number
Speaker 2: one pick.
Speaker 3: Do you doubt that Fields is about to make a
Speaker 3: major leap?
Speaker 1: I said on our last episode, I was a little
Speaker 1: shook with Nick shook about being overly confident, So I've
Speaker 1: been recently transitioned to like cautious optimism around fields, and
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work, the Bears might look back on
Speaker 1: the events of the spring with an insane amount of regret,
Speaker 1: but try to stay positive.
Speaker 4: It's unfair because there's like three quarterbacks taken in the
Speaker 4: top five, so if any of them turn into Hall
Speaker 4: of Fame type players, you'll always say the Bears.
Speaker 2: Pass, which doesn't happen often. Can you read that again?
Speaker 3: I loved I love the slogan, like, can you just
Speaker 3: I better be worth it.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do my Bear slogan, which is more of
Speaker 4: an attack ad. It's time to start attacking, and it's
Speaker 4: just love stinks. I think, just go great at Green Bay,
Speaker 4: lean into the rivalry because I feel like that's all
Speaker 4: they really care about Bears fans. They're just kind of like,
Speaker 4: let's be better than the Packers. That's our big goal.
Speaker 4: Love stinks plus a little Jay Giles.
Speaker 2: You got it?
Speaker 1: Giles in a big spot.
Speaker 2: Uh. Jay Giles is a Keith Hans' favorite.
Speaker 1: And one few years back we were it was a
Speaker 1: summer and it was playing. Giles came on and my
Speaker 1: dad was like, oh, Yeah, he's about to take out
Speaker 1: the licken stick. And apparently Jay Giles called his harmonica
Speaker 1: the licking stick.
Speaker 4: Wait, it's the harmonica. I thought it was guitar just
Speaker 4: because yea, you know.
Speaker 2: The licoen stick is the harmonica.
Speaker 3: Wow, it's just too strange for me.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's gonna take out the licking stick.
Speaker 2: Dann, He's taking out the licking stick. I uh, do
Speaker 2: you have one, Connor?
Speaker 7: I just had. Yeah. We can't figure out Chase Claypool either.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we did give up a premium draft pick
Speaker 1: for him.
Speaker 4: Was that I Bears fans who were extremely overreacting to
Speaker 4: the fact that he started the year on the pup
Speaker 4: list and is already off. It's like, okay, calm down.
Speaker 1: All right, classic rock fans are going to be mad,
Speaker 1: so I just need to make sure I get this right.
Speaker 1: There was a guy in Jay Giles band named Magic Dick.
Speaker 1: I'm not making up anything, No, that's true, Magic Dick ak,
Speaker 1: Lord of the licking Stick, and he played his most
Speaker 1: famous solo was on Whammer Jammer made famous during his
Speaker 1: years with Jay Giles band.
Speaker 2: That's pretty dense, all real, all real stuff.
Speaker 4: He too. I do not think graduated in middle school,
Speaker 4: like they keep bounding guy.
Speaker 1: Ummm, all right, that's what. Just because he can wail
Speaker 1: on the licking stick.
Speaker 4: I mean, he pretty much based his whole career on
Speaker 4: like a series of like middle school double and tundras.
Speaker 4: He called himself magic Dick and smoked the licken stick
Speaker 4: or whatever.
Speaker 2: Come on, no, it's a magic dick aka Lord of
Speaker 2: the Licking Stick.
Speaker 7: All right, anyway, tough sell for your future father in law.
Speaker 7: You're sitting down at like a table.
Speaker 1: What do you do?
Speaker 2: Uh, the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 3: Let's see here I've got for the Bengals. Mike Brown
Speaker 3: secretly hot, I have the beholder, bro.
Speaker 2: You'd rubber stamp that. I would think Connor.
Speaker 4: Looking a little older. I mean, I mean, I don't
Speaker 4: think he's bad.
Speaker 1: Getting older doesn't mean especially you know, he can have
Speaker 1: a little grizzled I don't.
Speaker 5: I can't.
Speaker 7: I can't follow that. It's not possible. But I will
Speaker 7: say that I was there last year watching him power
Speaker 7: walk around the interior of the stadium on like a
Speaker 7: hot June day randomly, and he saw Joe Burrow, who
Speaker 7: was doing a cover shoot for us, and just like
Speaker 7: the look in his eye when he walked over and
Speaker 7: gave him a hug. That's just like it was. It
Speaker 7: was just like God, you'd want that like once in
Speaker 7: your life to feel that. You know, that was just
Speaker 7: like it was special. It's very special. That's all I'm
Speaker 7: gonna say.
Speaker 4: Good context is we're just trying to make Nick Westling proud.
Speaker 4: I just feel like the Bengals, despite this incredible success
Speaker 4: in having Joe Burrow, still hasn't totally won over the
Speaker 4: commitment of Nick Westling. This would do it if they
Speaker 4: could just take that next what's it gonna take. They've
Speaker 4: been doing pretty well where they're just trying to make
Speaker 4: them proud. Really the whole family.
Speaker 2: Nick and Dord.
Speaker 3: That's super Bowl loss in person he did a couple
Speaker 3: of years ago with great spirit. They were very good
Speaker 3: sports about the whole.
Speaker 2: Thing, all right.
Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns, Connor Or last year we talked about
Speaker 1: how you would defected from Brown's fandom. In fact, you
Speaker 1: had offloaded all Browns merge from the house. You had
Speaker 1: become a fan solely of the un US women's national
Speaker 1: team and soccer, who are going for another World Cup
Speaker 1: trophy right now.
Speaker 2: In fact, do you have anything for the Browns.
Speaker 7: So I wrote this down after Greg I think you
Speaker 7: responded to it on Twitter. There's the slip of him
Speaker 7: yesterday talking about how the media totally overshadowed Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 7: The media totally overshadowed the inspiring part of his narrative,
Speaker 7: which apparently we don't talk enough about. And so the
Speaker 7: slogan is just kind of from like the pr person's perspective,
Speaker 7: just being like, ah.
Speaker 3: This.
Speaker 7: He just he's not gonna he's not gonna do it.
Speaker 7: He's not gonna say I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: And it's like, dude, that's I heard that story five
Speaker 4: thousand times and it was inspiring, it was all about
Speaker 4: it's all about his college career all the four or
Speaker 4: five years. It's like, no, it hasn't been mentioned as
Speaker 4: much over the last year. I'm still gonna be more
Speaker 4: positive though with the Browns. And the slogan is we're
Speaker 4: getting Mark and Connor back.
Speaker 2: How about that, Well, we'll see about that.
Speaker 4: We're gonna get them back. I mean Connor was always
Speaker 4: kind of a fake Browns fan anyways. Oh and I
Speaker 4: never really never really felt the passion from him. But
Speaker 4: they're gonna get you guys back. Oh, I gotta think
Speaker 4: that's tough to predict. I don't think you're too sure
Speaker 4: about that. I didn't even mind the similar I didn't
Speaker 4: even include Connor. Connor's gone, uh, he's supporting the women's
Speaker 4: national team.
Speaker 2: I got, Mark.
Speaker 1: Come on back.
Speaker 3: Nobody's looking well, here's mine then spotted forty million miles
Speaker 3: away and drifting through antimatter our soul.
Speaker 1: Okay, the Dallas Cowboys. Popcorn check, wine check, true crime
Speaker 1: doc check. Oh yeah, it's cuddle time with Zaddy.
Speaker 7: Oh, Zaddy, you're so extra.
Speaker 1: Just lean into the Mike McCarthy of at all, because
Speaker 1: the Cowboys certainly have.
Speaker 3: We've had deep conversations Dan and I about why he
Speaker 3: considers Mike McCarthy to be a Zaddy and all. It
Speaker 3: only led me to realize that you and I define
Speaker 3: Zaddy in very different ways. But you have your own
Speaker 3: definition and he fits squarely in that world.
Speaker 4: No, I think Dan, I mean, I don't want to
Speaker 4: get too deep into this, but I think Dan sees
Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy as more of a sexual being than you do.
Speaker 2: Mark. That may be true.
Speaker 1: That's weird that you you would bring the sexual aside
Speaker 1: into it. I see him more as like a warm
Speaker 1: figure of protection and somebody that you would like to
Speaker 1: watch true crime docks with, especially after he starts the
Speaker 1: fire and it's not one of those ones that you
Speaker 1: turn on with the key and it's the gas lit
Speaker 1: one with the fake logs. It's like he went and
Speaker 1: chopped the wood in the backyard, he built a triangular
Speaker 1: log pattern. He started it himself, the fire. He actually
Speaker 1: even picked out the wine.
Speaker 3: But so this is what I mean. I think he
Speaker 3: knows says wine a secure source of protection and power,
Speaker 3: and I see you'd want to be doing something else
Speaker 3: with the Saddy then watch a movie.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I mean that's where we differ.
Speaker 3: I guess that's where we differ.
Speaker 2: Anybody else have one for the cowboys, Connor.
Speaker 7: I've a shot through the heart. You give a bad name?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, m hm.
Speaker 2: Dak Yeah, major plotline. What's that look.
Speaker 4: Way Brian Brian Shott it's from the perspective of Brian Schottenheimer,
Speaker 4: or it's talking about Brian Schottenheimer. What's going on?
Speaker 7: I suppose that he will make Dak Prescott worse, like
Speaker 7: if I had to, if I had to do like
Speaker 7: the the Google suggested sentence for this, it was just like,
Speaker 7: the Cowboys are gonna suck this year because of that.
Speaker 4: Because of Yeah, as someone who likes to defend Dak
Speaker 4: coming off like his worst slash most unlucky season, combining
Speaker 4: Schottenheimer and an offensive line coach who was around in
Speaker 4: the eighties and McCarthy calling plays doesn't fill me with
Speaker 4: a lot of excitement.
Speaker 1: What about the old Patriots offensive line coach that we
Speaker 1: wrote poems about.
Speaker 2: He was like a million years old.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying.
Speaker 2: That was literally three. He was a wizard, he was
Speaker 2: three hundred years old. That guy.
Speaker 4: I mean, Mike Solari's done, done many good things, but
Speaker 4: he also coached ones with Landry so that seems crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: How about unless Anybail Scott one there the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 3: I've got one for the Broncos. Denver Broncos. We took
Speaker 3: excuse me, we took Russell Wilson's corner office away. Now
Speaker 3: he must work on his laptop somewhere else in print
Speaker 3: documents on the company printer, not on his own hah.
Speaker 1: At least he has a laptop, mister un limited.
Speaker 4: You know, sometimes like at the content summit, that's what
Speaker 4: they call it now, it's not the talent sum it's
Speaker 4: a content summit. You hear some whispers.
Speaker 2: That's why Mark I didn't go this year.
Speaker 1: Like once they took talent out of the titles, like
Speaker 1: well we'll send Greg, why would I?
Speaker 4: Indeed, yeah, then you know you hear some whispers and
Speaker 4: people who would seem to know better, no better than me, certainly,
Speaker 4: and there there would certainly there was this vibe that like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: he's gonna he's gonna ax Russell Wilson, like by mid
Speaker 4: October at the first sign of problem that this is
Speaker 4: not a long.
Speaker 2: Time Oh I totally believe that.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I felt like it was more than just
Speaker 4: a vibe that like the the least will be will
Speaker 4: be short.
Speaker 1: I have something that I think is in direct relation
Speaker 1: to that, and it's Russell Wilson at this crossroads of
Speaker 1: his career. Remember the defender or the opponent who said
Speaker 1: late in last season that Russell Wilson was like a
Speaker 1: sack of potatoes physically a shot at his conditioning, which
Speaker 1: he's been working on a lot. The Denver broncos I
Speaker 1: got your sack of potatoes right here, and then a
Speaker 1: crude gesture, crude gesture with his hands.
Speaker 2: Think you cannot top that.
Speaker 4: I like it when the slogan includes like a motion
Speaker 4: and a way that you say it, which mine kind
Speaker 4: of does too, which is four twenty bro. Oh, it's
Speaker 4: because like people love yeah, people love it in Denver,
Speaker 4: how about you.
Speaker 7: Con I went with Jared Stidham. He's our mile high boy.
Speaker 7: He's when when he remember when he's like he threw
Speaker 7: for like four hundred yards in that one game last
Speaker 7: night and you forgot. And then he took off the
Speaker 7: helmet and he had that like just that really thick
Speaker 7: mop of black hair, and You're just like, wow, this
Speaker 7: is this is a guy like I. If I knew
Speaker 7: nothing about football, I'd be like, let's sign him to
Speaker 7: like a let's sign him to like a five year,
Speaker 7: hundred million dollar contract.
Speaker 1: Just let him sling it target it on the first
Speaker 1: day of free agency aggressively.
Speaker 7: He'd look good in a Patagonia vest on a billboard.
Speaker 7: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Interesting, all right, how about Connor. Let's keep rolling with
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. We're only a d.
Speaker 2: Connor's do it like a packers camp in ten minutes.
Speaker 7: I went with Lions, We're gonna hug you harder. Every
Speaker 7: year during the draft, they have those videos of their
Speaker 7: war room and Brad Holmes their GM and Dan Campbell
Speaker 7: hug each other with such like thunderous It's like the
Speaker 7: whole room shakes and I can't imagine the sound of
Speaker 7: like the smacking flesh and like the backslaps and stuff.
Speaker 7: It's just got to be it's got to be a
Speaker 7: wild thing, you.
Speaker 3: Know, different vibe mark I have For the Lions, good
Speaker 3: luck locating an actual line in Detroit, but we all
Speaker 3: buy into certain collective myths.
Speaker 2: If you think about it, m very good. Okay. Along
Speaker 2: those same lines.
Speaker 1: For the packers, I have, Hey, we bamboozled fans with
Speaker 1: fake ownership stock.
Speaker 2: Why can't we do it with a fake QB. Dang?
Speaker 3: This stock thing has always been on Dan's right.
Speaker 4: I think they filled the stadium with stockholders recently this week.
Speaker 4: It's like a stockholder meeting. But it's just like they're
Speaker 4: sitting in the crowd. Oh the field.
Speaker 1: The paper frame paper in the living room. People got
Speaker 1: to go inside the stadium and buy like hot dogs
Speaker 1: and beers for twelve dollars each.
Speaker 4: And yet like a didn't they didn't they raise money
Speaker 4: from them. They had like another sale of it. Like
Speaker 4: literally they're they're the only team where you see the books.
Speaker 4: The government has to get involved with this. Yeah, there's
Speaker 4: millions of dollars of revenue. It's like it's like when
Speaker 4: someone really rich, does it gofund me.
Speaker 1: It's just like, I don't even like Connor, I don't
Speaker 1: know for some reason, anti trust violation just came into
Speaker 1: my head. Does that does that track here? Has that
Speaker 1: anything to do with what's going on here?
Speaker 7: I like how you cut to me when you needed
Speaker 7: to know that. It's like like the down low on
Speaker 7: an antitrust violation. I will say that I having spent
Speaker 7: a lot of time there, I went to UH door
Speaker 7: to door and I was interviewing fans once and there
Speaker 7: was this old woman who I was talking to her
Speaker 7: about like you know, moving on from Brett fav or something,
Speaker 7: and she she asked, she invited me into her house.
Speaker 7: She gave me homemade caramels, and then she took down
Speaker 7: my phone number and she said, listen, like sometimes the
Speaker 7: weather gets unpredictably bad here, so I'm just gonna keep
Speaker 7: you know. I want to keep you until I know
Speaker 7: that you're home safe. She called me during a snowstorm
Speaker 7: and said that I could stay in their house. And
Speaker 7: this the packers are selling stock to this poor woman.
Speaker 3: I feel like we were always getting seventy five percent
Speaker 3: of the story or the relationship behind Connor's parables with
Speaker 3: these the old man he met this woman in the house.
Speaker 4: I think they believe in their guy.
Speaker 2: What a wonderful woman. She sounds so sweet. No, did
Speaker 2: she critique your body?
Speaker 4: We never would.
Speaker 7: You never know.
Speaker 4: How about Crazy in Love? You know there you go
Speaker 4: just lean into it, be more positive.
Speaker 2: So you had to love plays well. That was the thing.
Speaker 4: I thought we were doing a by division and then
Speaker 4: then they were going to be in a row, and
Speaker 4: it would like there's a couple of these happening. I'm
Speaker 4: having to to pivot. But you know what, people didn't
Speaker 4: think necessarily, Beyonce was going to get it done as
Speaker 4: a solo artist when she left Destiny's Child, and then
Speaker 4: she comes in with Crazy in Love as her first
Speaker 4: and everyone's in Okay, everyone probably expected.
Speaker 1: Me to do it once in a generation entertainer that
Speaker 1: Beyonce knows.
Speaker 4: A little bit. But that's that I'm just saying. For
Speaker 4: that to be your debut singles, right.
Speaker 1: They kept on firing all the Destiny's children except for Beyonce,
Speaker 1: And it was like, hmm, that seems like a hint
Speaker 1: that there's probably one good one.
Speaker 4: Well plus his mom, her mom was they in that
Speaker 4: scenario and the dad, I think it was probably a yeah,
Speaker 4: that's a fair point.
Speaker 2: The Texans I got nothing I have.
Speaker 3: The Texans don't rebuild, they reload.
Speaker 4: Nice, Okay.
Speaker 7: I went with like you have to say it almost
Speaker 7: in a voice where like you picture Bill Belichick on
Speaker 7: a on one of those ear pieces and he's connected
Speaker 7: to Nick Cassario on another ear piece, and it just
Speaker 7: says terminate fall Flag operation. You can come on home, Nick,
Speaker 7: And basically like the idea being that he's he's completely
Speaker 7: erased this franchise from contention for the.
Speaker 4: Next WHOA So seems like a negative route to go
Speaker 4: as the slogan for the team. But yeah, it's like
Speaker 4: plus the Titans took their the Oilers throwbacks.
Speaker 7: But it's almost like when you get hacked by a
Speaker 7: super hacker, like the hacker then takes credit for it,
Speaker 7: and so.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, you know once it is almost like that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's so like week one. All the texts and
Speaker 7: signage will just be replaced with pictures of like Bill
Speaker 7: Belichick wearing dog sunglasses or something.
Speaker 1: The Indianapolis colts don't worry. Everything's cool. Jim Mersey is
Speaker 1: in complete charge. Now, nothing to worry about.
Speaker 3: I have an owner related one too, for the cults.
Speaker 3: Our owners spent a hill of money on the teletype
Speaker 3: scroll that Jack Carouac used to write on the road,
Speaker 3: and nobody seems to give.
Speaker 2: A You believe that should have been a bigger story.
Speaker 3: What happened the original role right there on the road?
Speaker 3: Right he bought it. Jim Mersey bought it.
Speaker 4: But what's wrong with that? He has a bunch of
Speaker 4: he's saying, why wasn't a bigger deal?
Speaker 2: Nobody gives it should have been a national story. It
Speaker 2: should have been a large narrative. That's a very important
Speaker 2: book to you and millions of others and others. I
Speaker 2: don't know that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a team slogan. I feel
Speaker 1: like that's a personal issue or a grievance you have
Speaker 1: with I see it.
Speaker 4: I think you know the collection coming soon?
Speaker 2: Me, you and Mike Mills all chilling checking out the.
Speaker 4: Scrolls so it's been a while since I feel like
Speaker 4: the Colts have had like real good times. So I'm
Speaker 4: thinking back to about a decade ago when we were
Speaker 4: just starting this this podcast and trying to trying to
Speaker 4: live off of that, and so I'm gonna go stiking Strong.
Speaker 4: It's like, remember those good times with Tuck Pegano and
Speaker 4: Pegano Strong and heck, let's break it back Psyche Strong.
Speaker 2: Chuck Bagono and Bruce arians co coaches of the Year.
Speaker 2: It happened. It's a true story. Anything, Connor, I was.
Speaker 7: I did some of these last night, and so I'm
Speaker 7: looking at my notes under Colts and it just says no,
Speaker 7: So I don't think.
Speaker 1: All right, boys, let's take a quick break and then
Speaker 1: we'll finish up the slogans on the other side.
Speaker 2: All right, we're back. How about the Jaguars.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got one duva except those two weeks in London.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, how about that, Connor anything?
Speaker 7: I don't have anything. But did you know that they're
Speaker 7: like the third most populous city east of the Mississippi River.
Speaker 2: Well, that's interesting. I would not have thought that.
Speaker 1: Is that has there been a recent boom in the
Speaker 1: population or was this the Mississippi.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So who are ahead of him? New York
Speaker 4: and Boston?
Speaker 7: And it's New York and Boston. Yeah, isn't that crazy? Boston?
Speaker 7: And then Jackson.
Speaker 4: Bigger than Philadelphia, m bigger than my team?
Speaker 7: Got that?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Wait, what about Atlanta? I don't know about this thing.
Speaker 2: I don't Knowake.
Speaker 7: News' it's it's I report you Miam Miami.
Speaker 2: Did you say Atlanta? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean I don't know about this DC. You know,
Speaker 4: maybe it must be a huge city.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of head scratching when the Jaguars
Speaker 1: were or jackson was chosen as the expansion site with Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: what's that all about?
Speaker 2: Well? You know, look who laughs last? Now the third
Speaker 2: biggest population.
Speaker 4: And it's not Boston. I guess Philly is there east
Speaker 4: of the Cippy in second? And I think I guess
Speaker 4: Jacksonville's up to third?
Speaker 2: How about the chief And I.
Speaker 7: Hope what I said was true?
Speaker 2: It's too late chiefs defending champs? What do you got
Speaker 2: anybody going? Once? Going? We don't love?
Speaker 4: Which is just these are the good old days. Let's say,
Speaker 4: let's like enjoy the present. This is it. Don't complain,
Speaker 4: these are the good old days.
Speaker 2: Right now, what Chiefs fan is complaining?
Speaker 4: Nobody, but you know, if they lose a couple of
Speaker 4: games or whatever.
Speaker 1: By the way, later this week, we will offer some
Speaker 1: of our thoughts about Quarterback, the Netflix series that involves
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes prominently.
Speaker 2: Have you been watching that gunner?
Speaker 7: No, because I think ninety of that is just terrible.
Speaker 7: Both like it's just like like and this goes back
Speaker 7: to like a rant dead.
Speaker 4: Like a high school tour is walking by right now
Speaker 4: as you said those words, it was very disoriented and
Speaker 4: it's it's like one of them literally waved while you
Speaker 4: said that.
Speaker 1: Imagine they're being a live speaker that that had the
Speaker 1: audio of the show going through coursing through the hallways.
Speaker 2: It's not the case taking picture of it.
Speaker 7: All this stuff about like all inside the mind of
Speaker 7: a quarterback, like he memorizes plays and throws the ball
Speaker 7: and it's like, yeah, man, and we work hard at
Speaker 7: what we have to do, like we're all amazing, and
Speaker 7: you know, I you know, I just don't know, like
Speaker 7: I mulch my lawn and I read my kid bedtime.
Speaker 1: No Netflix, not eight part documentary on you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think you're.
Speaker 4: Getting on something which is maybe like we could. We
Speaker 4: don't need them going to an amusement park for five minutes.
Speaker 4: There's nothing interesting about that stuff like that. Let's let's
Speaker 4: tighten it up when there.
Speaker 2: Takes you closer inside.
Speaker 4: Right, but when they're doing the exact same things that
Speaker 4: we do in our lives, but they're not that interesting,
Speaker 4: take out those parts, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I was concerned the minute that I spotted this show
Speaker 3: because I knew we'd have to at some point unpack
Speaker 3: it verbally. And it was like, it's eight I have
Speaker 3: to go watch eight You don't episodes of a football
Speaker 3: show in July.
Speaker 4: I don't have to watch any of it. You don't
Speaker 4: have to, don't have to?
Speaker 2: All right? Well good?
Speaker 3: I felt like it was, you know, being tasked toy
Speaker 3: to do so course closely to where Connor comes down.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just a rube. I've been enjoying it. I
Speaker 1: like getting to know Kirk, Cousins and Mahomes better. But
Speaker 1: they're certainly decided that Connor.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't and I've not seen it, so I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not taking down the product.
Speaker 4: It just felt, you know, but I think we would
Speaker 4: appreciate that you don't need to watch it and then
Speaker 4: complain any star quarterbacks, they're.
Speaker 2: Just like us. I'm maybe that's me.
Speaker 4: I'm three apps in, I'm threeeps in. I won't get
Speaker 4: to eight by Thursday, whenever we talk about it. But
Speaker 4: it's like the perfect thing to have on while you're
Speaker 4: eating lunch.
Speaker 7: Not.
Speaker 1: Let me just clarify, Mark, you are not tasked with
Speaker 1: watching any episodes. Greg, I'll need you to put down
Speaker 1: all eight Thursday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Greg, Greg, get d I'll get I'll get through
Speaker 4: the fourth or whatever. It's eight hours a long time.
Speaker 2: You want to talk your talk the Raiders, The Raiders,
Speaker 2: The Raiders.
Speaker 7: I went with Diane. Please get Jim Harbaugh on the line.
Speaker 4: Good, Mark Davis.
Speaker 2: It's so.
Speaker 1: Definitely a Diane answering phone in that facility.
Speaker 2: Undoubtedly. Chance, Yeah, it does. It does feel like it's
Speaker 2: heading in a certain direction in Las Vegas.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I want to think I want to think positive,
Speaker 4: and uh, I think they just go Jimmy G is
Speaker 4: better like and Derek Carr just Jimmy G is better
Speaker 4: than what you can fill in them, So I can,
Speaker 4: I can. I think that's probably where they're going with that.
Speaker 4: It's like everyone. You know the rate. You just lean
Speaker 4: into the kicking Derek Carr a little bit on the
Speaker 4: way out, and they believe it. Jimmy G is better.
Speaker 4: They're calling their shot better, looking better, better, everything, Jimmy
Speaker 4: G is better. The slogans should be promoting their team.
Speaker 1: I thought it was just like this whole Jimmy G thing.
Speaker 1: The goal is for like, be as good as Derek
Speaker 1: Carr was, but just be cheaper. Are they expecting him
Speaker 1: to be better than Derek Carr?
Speaker 4: I think so?
Speaker 3: Okay, But a slogan often can good love with that
Speaker 3: and it's not true too. You can just you're just
Speaker 3: trying to create an aura.
Speaker 1: All right. How about the Chargers I got don't trust us?
Speaker 1: Just like getting it?
Speaker 2: Well? That works?
Speaker 4: Yeah, how about those powder blues.
Speaker 2: You want to be positive? Greg? How about this trust
Speaker 2: us and then just like open arms.
Speaker 4: That's kind of because it's the Chargers that would be
Speaker 4: good anything.
Speaker 7: Connor, No, I'm looking at like the next three or
Speaker 7: four and I really mailed this section and.
Speaker 4: Get to it.
Speaker 2: I'm with you.
Speaker 7: I think I'm gonna pop in.
Speaker 4: Okay, not every team.
Speaker 3: I hit a dry spell in these K through L teams.
Speaker 1: So you did about half the exercise in albetical order,
Speaker 1: and then you started to trail off in the back end.
Speaker 3: A little bit. I mean, there's some hot spots coming up.
Speaker 1: Did you do it by division, greg or alphabetically, because
Speaker 1: you haven't made it clear so far in today's episode.
Speaker 4: It's really ruined everything. How about the backs, they're just ruined.
Speaker 2: You know, we did do it alphabetically last year.
Speaker 3: I didn't recall that because I had the same questions
Speaker 3: in mind the L A Rams I have on field record. Aside,
Speaker 3: we still see ourselves as smarter than you. Oh, I
Speaker 3: do feel the way about the Rams.
Speaker 4: Uh mine is uh Shawn's having fun again. I feel
Speaker 4: like that's a lot of it this year. It's sort
Speaker 4: of just like, hey, we we might not go win
Speaker 4: the super Bowl, but Shawn's having a good time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could you could sense that.
Speaker 1: How about the Miami Dolphins, I got I have two slogans.
Speaker 2: They have them.
Speaker 1: They have them ready for September, well, July, August, September,
Speaker 1: October to a time baby, and then November and December
Speaker 1: and maybe January. It's a white party baby.
Speaker 2: They're covered what they're covered both sides either way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and It's not like the white out like at
Speaker 4: a heat game or anything like that, but it could
Speaker 4: have a little double sure.
Speaker 1: And also baby is just b A B y for Tua,
Speaker 1: but for Mike White it's b A y hyphen b
Speaker 1: e E e E.
Speaker 3: That's very versatile. I like that thank you I have
Speaker 3: for the Dolphin. If your job allows you to gamble
Speaker 3: on pro football, place a five hundred dollars anti on
Speaker 3: Miami reaching the AFC title game.
Speaker 2: PS.
Speaker 3: Actual Dolphins of the Sea know your deepest secrets and
Speaker 3: will tell your your mother and father on you, even
Speaker 3: if you're old. They will tell your parents everything you
Speaker 3: ever did. You can't hide anymore. You will be revealed.
Speaker 3: We know what you do in the shadows. You're totally banged.
Speaker 2: Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Can't trust them, can't trust them at all. Minnesota Vikings,
Speaker 1: I went.
Speaker 7: With sorry ed Donna till this wasn't your fault, just
Speaker 7: because like last year during games, the Troy Aikman, who
Speaker 7: never says a bad word about anyone, would just insult
Speaker 7: this man like he was a terrorist. And he's just
Speaker 7: like the sweetest looking guy with glasses and you're just like,
Speaker 7: why why are they yelling at him? So much, and
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Figure it's kind of seemed like it was his fault
Speaker 4: though they had a lot of talent and they were terrible.
Speaker 1: See, yeah, the defense was horrendous and it closed out
Speaker 1: with a total flatlining against the Giants in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And I guess an early talking point in the off
Speaker 1: season was after they hired Brian Flores, so we all
Speaker 1: like and respect and.
Speaker 2: Has the has a pedigree. He's like, well, they're going
Speaker 2: to be better now.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, a coach can do a lot, but
Speaker 1: he needs some talent and they have less talent now
Speaker 1: than they did last year when they were terrible.
Speaker 3: If anything, they cut players and cut costs.
Speaker 1: Interesting, all right, how about the New England Patriots? This
Speaker 1: is more a pitch to get people to come to
Speaker 1: the games. Witness the collapse of Rome in person. I've
Speaker 1: got I've got some beat in the seats, you know,
Speaker 1: I've got two. The first one is Craft versus Belichick.
Speaker 1: It's on it's kind of fun, like big name.
Speaker 4: And then the second one is related Craft versus Belichick
Speaker 4: versus Hall of Fame induction versus death. So it's like,
Speaker 4: all right, it's a race who wins the race.
Speaker 2: Like the first one is a little more direct.
Speaker 1: I picture like the old boxing your UFC thing where
Speaker 1: theyre nose to nose, the profile shots.
Speaker 2: I'm in.
Speaker 3: I have item. Bill Belichick has a secret daughter nobody
Speaker 3: knows about.
Speaker 2: Like you. That's why you like him so much.
Speaker 3: There's parallels. How about the Saints I got.
Speaker 4: You're not referring to Amanda by the way, the excellent Uh.
Speaker 3: She's not a secret. I mean she's out in the open.
Speaker 3: Another one, a second daughter.
Speaker 1: Yes, big time lacrosse coach I got Saints, Greg will
Speaker 1: talk himself into ten wins by Labor Day. Hmm.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Mine is somewhat related, which is Derek Carr solves
Speaker 4: everything everything.
Speaker 2: Do everything anything.
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 3: See this tab of acid upon it is etched the
Speaker 3: image of an innocent, innocent pink kitty. Place it on
Speaker 3: your tongue and join our dream journey in which we
Speaker 3: pretend our quarterback is better than ho hum Ouchers.
Speaker 1: All right, how about the Giants? The giants? Connor, you're
Speaker 1: close to the giants or you got anything?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 4: You know, I like well, I thought this was the
Speaker 4: section you nailed.
Speaker 7: No, no, We're still at the tail end of the
Speaker 7: one where I didn't, but I would just say, like,
Speaker 7: you know, there, it would have to be like a
Speaker 7: swirling brandy kind of motion, and it has to just
Speaker 7: be like, come watch us do things the right way.
Speaker 4: Oh, I know, that's really good.
Speaker 2: Well, a Tiffany franchise, after.
Speaker 4: All, mine would be the third best team in New
Speaker 4: York or the second best team in New Jersey, depending
Speaker 4: on how you look at it.
Speaker 2: Like I got Daniel Jones makes forty million a year? Now,
Speaker 2: isn't that crazy?
Speaker 4: Why are these also caustic?
Speaker 2: And it's really don't worry about it. It's all right.
Speaker 2: It's just it's a little bit of a razzing if
Speaker 2: you will, you'll look at it that way too.
Speaker 4: It's a little bit of like a little bitter drink
Speaker 4: before before the start off.
Speaker 3: You know, you do some of these and like, I'm
Speaker 3: looking at my Giants one and I'm not gonna I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna read it. Okay, it went a little too
Speaker 3: too far realizing now would not be valuable.
Speaker 1: How about the New York Jets. I'm gonna refer to
Speaker 1: something that Greg put on my radar. Can we get
Speaker 1: that Woody Johnson tweet from recently? There he is it's
Speaker 1: a picture of Woody with a caption new profile pick
Speaker 1: and then the eyes emoji that is the slogan for
Speaker 1: my Jets new profile pick.
Speaker 3: Does he even know that is out there?
Speaker 4: Yes, I you know what I texted to you guys
Speaker 4: because it just made me laugh. But then I realized
Speaker 4: quickly he was doing a preview of the new UNI.
Speaker 4: So actually it was kind of it really was that
Speaker 4: he had the old logo on the hat and it
Speaker 4: was like a little it was a little hip thing
Speaker 4: of that, like, Okay, they coming tomorrow, so good.
Speaker 1: Job, you know, speaking of Woody and the Jets and
Speaker 1: hard knocks kicking off soon and everything. I hate to
Speaker 1: say this because I don't want this to be the
Speaker 1: peak of the Jets season, but they've already in some
Speaker 1: ways organizationally, this has been a success already, Like right,
Speaker 1: this is all they wanted was to be a team
Speaker 1: that people cared about. That's part of the national conversation
Speaker 1: that has everyone buzzing about the organization in a positive
Speaker 1: way as a team that matters, Like that's why they
Speaker 1: gave up the extra draft pick, that's why they're doing this.
Speaker 1: I hope it goes beyond that. But the history of
Speaker 1: this team tells me like this is even enough what
Speaker 1: they've already been able to achieve this summer.
Speaker 3: They've had off seasons in the past that brought hope,
Speaker 3: and this one feels like I just worry about the
Speaker 3: potential collective collapse if it doesn't go well out of
Speaker 3: the gate. Their schedule is rough, but at this point, like,
Speaker 3: I can't imagine as a Jets fan that you've ever
Speaker 3: been on a higher cloud than this.
Speaker 2: It's very exciting.
Speaker 4: I uh, very exciting. I knew that you would come
Speaker 4: after the Patriots art. So even though I think that
Speaker 4: they're going to be pretty good this year, I'm going
Speaker 4: New York Jets high on our own supply.
Speaker 2: They certainly are.
Speaker 3: I have something similar. It's we believe it's possible that
Speaker 3: we're more than just a vastly concocted off season fable.
Speaker 7: I went with time to suck out loud.
Speaker 1: I like a little I like a little bitter with
Speaker 1: the sweet. I think it helps to balance things out.
Speaker 1: How about the Eagles.
Speaker 4: My Eagles one is the best thing to ever happened
Speaker 4: to the seventy six ers. It's like Embiid might be
Speaker 4: going Dames Harden wants out. They're disappointing every years, like
Speaker 4: no one cares anymore.
Speaker 2: Get the Eagles.
Speaker 3: It's true anything Mark, not for the Eagles.
Speaker 2: All right, I had Hurts so good?
Speaker 1: And then I have imagine John Mellencamp, the Heartland Rocker
Speaker 1: and matching Denham jeans jacket, posing with a thumbs up
Speaker 1: on the steps of the Philadelphia Museum of Art.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 2: It's perfect. Thank you.
Speaker 7: What about like hurts just okay? As it turns out,
Speaker 7: after Shane Steiken left, he's just okay.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 4: I found my slogans from last year. After you've got
Speaker 4: it up on a dock and yeah, actually that's a
Speaker 4: first repeat.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, there it is.
Speaker 4: I had hurt so good.
Speaker 2: I owe you ten dollars the Steelers I have won
Speaker 2: for this.
Speaker 3: We agree that sports based talking head Mark Sessler is
Speaker 3: dangerously overrated, but as assertion that will win double digit
Speaker 3: games this season is on point.
Speaker 2: I like that. It's a good pop for you too,
Speaker 2: that they would put in the team slogan.
Speaker 3: Kind of I've been getting slashed a little bit.
Speaker 1: But all right, how about let's leave that one there.
Speaker 1: How about the forty nine ers.
Speaker 4: We are the Monstars. That's my forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, space they just.
Speaker 4: Like they look the best getting off a bus of
Speaker 4: any team in the Connor.
Speaker 7: I was toying with the idea of like something about
Speaker 7: how at some point all brain power decays, right, and
Speaker 7: so they can only be like forty nine ers, we
Speaker 7: can only be smarter than you for another few years.
Speaker 1: That's good, but the window is open right now. How
Speaker 1: about the Seahawks.
Speaker 4: Somehow I didn't have a Seahawks really, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Wow, I assumed Greg would. Yeah, I was like clearing
Speaker 2: the runway.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't even need to touch Seattle Connor.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, just.
Speaker 7: No, yeah, yeah, let's let's let's jump ahead to Tampa.
Speaker 7: I'm ready for this, all.
Speaker 1: Right, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Seattle fans not happen, all right,
Speaker 1: I gotta.
Speaker 2: Come on, you do.
Speaker 7: My my slogan for Tampa was just hope you all
Speaker 7: enjoyed that depressing ass pandemic super Bowl. Like it's just
Speaker 7: the word. It was the worst time to go all
Speaker 7: in right and win a Super Bowl because no one
Speaker 7: will remember that's that's in NFL history, like.
Speaker 4: It's watched on TV. I get it there and it
Speaker 4: was like diminished a little. But I don't think the
Speaker 4: players there they had like.
Speaker 2: The scant amount of fans.
Speaker 7: It would be. It's like baseball through the height of
Speaker 7: like World War Two, It's like who who cares? There
Speaker 7: was so much more consequential historical stuff going on.
Speaker 1: And I pushed back, can I say that I hear
Speaker 1: where you're coming from, Connor living It's even crazier looking
Speaker 1: back that we did a full season of NFL coverage
Speaker 1: and we all did it from our homes and it
Speaker 1: was every.
Speaker 2: Game got played.
Speaker 1: The NFL just said we're not going to move at
Speaker 1: all on this. And then like living in La you know,
Speaker 1: Dodgers fans everywhere. Now the Dodgers, I'll just keep this
Speaker 1: between us, but like the Dodgers played a fifty game
Speaker 1: season or something that started at the end of July
Speaker 1: and then played in alternate sits in front of nobody.
Speaker 2: And won the World Series.
Speaker 4: That's a little different.
Speaker 1: And then I took to Dodger fans like, oh, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: we you know ended that that you know, long stretch
Speaker 1: of out a World Series championship in twenty twenties, Like no, really.
Speaker 3: Oh you don't find that see to me, like, if
Speaker 3: baseball did this all the time and we have fifty
Speaker 3: game regular season, I'm all in. I can I can hate.
Speaker 3: I like the way that that season played out, but
Speaker 3: I see you don't find it legitimate.
Speaker 2: But the NFL season played a full season.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, the Steelers Ravens game on Wednesday at like
Speaker 3: ten am, remember that they got it in?
Speaker 2: How to get it in? All right?
Speaker 1: How about the sorry Dodgers fans, but you know it's
Speaker 1: kind of true. How about the Titans? We got two
Speaker 1: more Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 4: Sorry, actually I did have one, which was is it?
Speaker 4: But I referred to this earlier. Is it weird we're
Speaker 4: wearing Oilers throwbacks?
Speaker 2: It's very weird.
Speaker 4: They look awesome, So I kind of can't blame them.
Speaker 4: They own the IP there.
Speaker 2: And you think the Texans should be annoyed to that.
Speaker 4: No, maybe not the Texans, but it's just weird.
Speaker 3: It's strange. I mean, Albert Breer asked, can't the Ravens
Speaker 3: just do throwback uniforms? It's the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 4: Right, I had I had a legit takeaway from those though.
Speaker 4: It's like they put Henry and Tannehill in those throwbacks.
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, they're definitely not trading Tannel if they
Speaker 4: put him in that throwback. I guess I should have
Speaker 4: given that up a while ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it was weird when they were actually
Speaker 1: for a year or two the Tennessee Oilers.
Speaker 2: That was strange that they're playing in an old college stadium.
Speaker 4: They weren't they weren't he changed they I thought they
Speaker 4: changed it right away they played an old college stadium.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they were the Tennessee Oilers Titans lately.
Speaker 2: I think they started as the Titans.
Speaker 1: Oh, any grave digger right now for that? Uh, finally
Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders, Connor, you got.
Speaker 7: One, I got two. The first one was here Come
Speaker 7: the red Wolves because we're gonna we're gonna finally buy
Speaker 7: the trademark. We're going to change the name, and we're
Speaker 7: gonna get it right. And it's very very exciting.
Speaker 1: I guess I shouldn't be surprised. But Magic Johnson did
Speaker 1: the media rounds after the sale went through and Snipe
Speaker 1: was ousted officially, and he left the door open for
Speaker 1: changing the team name again. Like so, I know that
Speaker 1: he's not the principal owner or anything, but If Magic
Speaker 1: is saying.
Speaker 4: That, Josh Harris, the principal owner, said it too.
Speaker 1: If Josh Harris the owners saying they're open to it,
Speaker 1: that makes me think it's gonna happen. It's happening, and
Speaker 1: it's not like there's gonna be pushback from outside saying no,
Speaker 1: we need to stick with the Commanders. That's gonna probably happen,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna go from Redskins to Washington Football team
Speaker 1: to Commanders for like two years and then maybe they'll
Speaker 1: settle one for the rest of the time.
Speaker 2: That's pretty wild, like.
Speaker 3: Weird it Well, it's unprecedented for NFL, but it's I
Speaker 3: can understand you're cleansing this organization from.
Speaker 4: Right, Tyler, I like it. I mean Dan Snyder should
Speaker 4: have listened to people and changed the name twenty years ago.
Speaker 4: Then they wouldn't have had to go through all this,
Speaker 4: which is related to mind which is winless without Dan
Speaker 4: Snyder is better than undefeated with him. I mean, it's
Speaker 4: like they won their Super Bowl that would have been
Speaker 4: my other one, Like we won the Super Bowl in
Speaker 4: July sixteenth, whatever day that was.
Speaker 3: I have before our home opener against the Cardinals, Fans
Speaker 3: will be given the chance in our courtyard pavilion to
Speaker 3: paint the unclothed body of Daniel Snyder. We plan to
Speaker 3: offer a full variety of colors in built a crylic
Speaker 3: and oil. Each fan will be giving a five minute
Speaker 3: window to draw, draw upon Snyder's torso or other parts
Speaker 3: of your choosing.
Speaker 2: Surprised he would agree to that, but he did. Apparently
Speaker 2: he willingly agreed. Uh, Connor, you've said it all.
Speaker 4: I do have my Seahawks one.
Speaker 2: Oh you do? I'm sorry?
Speaker 4: Ready, yes, finally And it's if you thought Geno out
Speaker 4: playing Russell Wilson was fun last year, just waiting until
Speaker 4: Gino barries them. This time around, well we got it.
Speaker 2: Something. Who do we Who do we really screw over?
Speaker 2: Who do we bang of that? Who got nothing?
Speaker 7: Well quite a few there in the middle of the albet.
Speaker 4: I think everyone got at least a half hearted one.
Speaker 2: And what there were ten? See oilers was the thing
Speaker 2: for a brief time. Yeah my fault there ninety eight?
Speaker 1: Was it?
Speaker 2: Well that you were right? All right?
Speaker 4: I played at Vanderbilt only, uh for one season, in
Speaker 4: Memphis for one season, and you're right, there were the
Speaker 4: oilers those two seasons.
Speaker 1: Uh and then weird, weird, weird, weird, uh, Connor, or
Speaker 1: you've said it all. You could read Connor at si
Speaker 1: dot com. You also have an excellent podcast that I
Speaker 1: recently was a guest on. That was nice, nice little
Speaker 1: combo there, buddy, the MMQB podcast. Anything else you want
Speaker 1: to get out there, buddy boy, No.
Speaker 7: Just everybody enjoy the remainder of your summer. Football is
Speaker 7: going to be here. But just you know, don't don't
Speaker 7: rush to it, you know, just to it'll it'll find you.
Speaker 7: You know, give yourself in August, and don't think about
Speaker 7: training camp at all. I mean, we don't have the luxury.
Speaker 4: Right, I mean, don't you want to be able to
Speaker 4: listen to your podcast in our podcast?
Speaker 7: Not until no, no, not until like September twelfth, Like
Speaker 7: spend spend the rest of this time with your family,
Speaker 7: Go find sunshine and you know, just just be outside that.
Speaker 7: That's my that's my thought.
Speaker 3: That should please your employer touch grass.
Speaker 7: All right, Connor, that's our that's our company slogan. Don't
Speaker 7: read until September twelfth.
Speaker 2: All right, there he goes, Thank you, Bud.
Speaker 4: Before we say goodbye to this entire show, though we
Speaker 4: got some breaking news here.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 4: The Cowboys in two time Pro Bowl cornerback Trayvon Diggs
Speaker 4: are finalizing a five year, ninety seven million dollar contract extension,
Speaker 4: according to Tom Pellus Letters. And it is annoying. Now
Speaker 4: when you see the Twitter link, like put into our
Speaker 4: chat client it it's just got a big X, but
Speaker 4: it says Twitter next to it. So it's very confusing.
Speaker 2: But it's a time of transition. It's very the commanders
Speaker 2: of websites right now.
Speaker 3: I'm choose not to be outraged by any of it.
Speaker 4: I'm a little surprised because I thought Diggs was it
Speaker 4: was good last year. I wouldn't say he was great,
Speaker 4: like he wasn't as Boom or Buss. He didn't have
Speaker 4: the big interception stuff. It's a big show of faith.
Speaker 4: But basically, no good players get to free agency. So
Speaker 4: I also get it.
Speaker 2: Cb Ones get paid big money. That's the anti running back.
Speaker 1: Seventeen career picks and he's twenty four years old, and yeah,
Speaker 1: a Jared Jones Cowboys type player, does he is? He
Speaker 1: making more money than his brother? Now the bills are like, now,
Speaker 1: we gotta deal with this too.
Speaker 3: If you were like the mother and father of the
Speaker 3: two Diggs brothers, like, you're doing fine because there's a
Speaker 3: lot of money coming up the chain to the parental
Speaker 3: units and future generation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, set up very nicely.
Speaker 4: Trayvon's a beautiful boy who had to meet during the
Speaker 4: hard knocks. You know he's set up. He set up nicely.
Speaker 2: Not personally, we didn't meet him personal, Yes, Stephanie.
Speaker 4: Television thing, I think Stefan's doing fine.
Speaker 3: Speaking of that of the Netflix football special, I heard
Speaker 3: you appear in it.
Speaker 1: Your voice does, my voice does? And I did. I
Speaker 1: did check the credits. I said, well they get you know,
Speaker 1: and they credited Good Morning Football and the four stars
Speaker 1: of that program as they should because they're all over
Speaker 1: that series. No, you know, special things Joel Zeuser, like, hey, Tugboat,
Speaker 1: We're going to use some of your dialogue to make
Speaker 1: a point about the Vikings and whether they can be trusted.
Speaker 1: A little shout out to Tugboat.
Speaker 4: No nothing, What was it on NFL network?
Speaker 1: Was this?
Speaker 4: Grace Howard ranging said a GMFB I.
Speaker 1: Believe, and I'm using context clues. I don't think it
Speaker 1: was pulled from our podcast. It was probably from a
Speaker 1: Good Morning Football appearance. So yes, that's but you know
Speaker 1: what am I going to do about it? Am I
Speaker 1: going to file lawsuit against my own company for the
Speaker 1: use of my intriguing Well.
Speaker 2: They didn't use my name or my likeness. They didn't
Speaker 2: put the mug on the screen.
Speaker 4: If I'm GM boy, I'm thinking they leaned on us
Speaker 4: pretty hard to kind of frame the story and move
Speaker 4: it forward. I don't think they paid for that, so
Speaker 4: it's like they kind of saved they got the special
Speaker 4: thanks and getting you know, talking heads to do that
Speaker 4: sort of stuff. They just use clips.
Speaker 2: They use some like Colin Coward clips or it's just like,
Speaker 2: was this recorded for this show? Said?
Speaker 1: Is Coward even? Does he know what's going on with
Speaker 1: He has a PNFL, he has a.
Speaker 3: Podcast, He has a daily radio show and talks about
Speaker 3: the NFL all the time. Yeah, that's as far as
Speaker 3: we'll not too dialed into the Coward universe and that
Speaker 3: I respect it.
Speaker 1: All right, good stuff. Great to be back in the studio.
Speaker 1: We got two more shows coming up this week, so
Speaker 1: uh be there for that.
Speaker 2: Mark.
Speaker 1: We have some behind the scenes planning meetings. The day
Speaker 1: is just beginning here at NFL Media Studios and surrounding territory.
Speaker 3: Just finding out about this now and next.
Speaker 1: Week we're gonna have, yes, a full week of shows,
Speaker 1: including the premiere of the Hard Knocks podcast with Connie
Speaker 1: and I will do a preview of.
Speaker 2: Week one which will follow up after that. So a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff coming and a lot of planning mark,
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff to do.
Speaker 4: Alright, Well, it was a real starting mark.
Speaker 2: We back. Maybe football is back?
Speaker 4: Be the call.