1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Yes, he thought the gamest U still ransom, y'all I 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: go wrong? You don't want you don't want to worry me? 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: Still sad? Straight Shot, no check, don't put your girl 4 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: tessel forgaris on the Black Effete podcasting that one tasting 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: that one. Choose a side of step aside of the step. 6 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: Then I want ask you a question. Let's just keep 7 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: the real straight shot with I'm Jason, you know, being 8 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: as nice, I'm gonna get a little bit broke a 9 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: way roam. I'm organized for wit to block. You ain't 10 00:00:43,800 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: wish you wrottle fright dot com? What's up? Everybody? Welcome 11 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: to straight Shot No chase it with your girl Tesla figuirl. 12 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: You know I'm always looking for allies. Allies are cool, 13 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: but I love my straight shooters. Straight shot giving it 14 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 1: to you raw, unfiltered, unscripted. Straight shot shooters are my listeners. 15 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: And today you're going to get it raw with my 16 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: girl Sonny Johnson. I am really really excited about this. 17 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: She has interviewed me on multiple occasions, but this is 18 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: actually I think the first time I've had a chance 19 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 1: to interview her at least in five seven, maybe seven 20 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: or eight years so this is really exciting. My guest 21 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: today is the host of Sunny's Corner. Did she say that? Yes, 22 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: she did say that. She said what she said. She's 23 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: on Serious XM, and I'm so excited to have her today. 24 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: We're going to get into it today. We'll be talking 25 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: about the black conservative co ops. Sonny and I. We 26 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: don't need notes, we don't need predetermined questions because we 27 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: just get it in how we how we live it. 28 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: And We've been on many panels to talk about this, 29 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: but this is my first time that I am interviewing 30 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: her on my new I Heart podcast, So I'm really 31 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: really excited. Welcome Sonny. Thank you so much for having 32 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: me at Congratulations. Yes when did I Yes, ma'am. And 33 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: let me say this to you, Sonny, you were one 34 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: of the first national radio hosts that actually reached out 35 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: embraced what I was talking about. Even though your conservative. 36 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: But I don't even want to say I'm liberal. You know, 37 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm as you know, I'm independent. Uh, there's some things 38 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: that I support on the conservative side, some things I 39 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: supported on the liberal side, but you were certainly the 40 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: first conservative on a national level and say, hey, we 41 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: may not agree with everything but I'm rocking with you, 42 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: so thank you so much for always being that support. 43 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: It's the yo, since it's the work. If you're doing 44 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: the work, that's all that matters to me. But as 45 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: long as you're in this game and you're actually doing 46 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: the work, you actually our community at the heart of 47 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: everything you're doing, and when you fight with it, you 48 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: put everything that we know to be true on the 49 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: line for it. And if that's the way you're rocking, 50 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: I'm rocking with you, and nothing else really matters to me. 51 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: And I think I've proven that over the years, absolutely, 52 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: and and and what that said, You and I did 53 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: a panel with Lawrence Jones at Fox and it ended 54 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: it was about racism in America, and you got the 55 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: final word with ending about which is it was beautiful 56 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: because it ties right into what I want to talk 57 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: to you about today, which is the black conservative co 58 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: opt because we don't hear that subject a lot. And 59 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: it ended what you're talking about, how conservatives do not 60 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: go to the hood there, don't reach out. You know, 61 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: you blame Democrats for coming around every four years or whatnot. 62 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: What you definitely dispelled that meant to say, no, they're 63 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: around because they're in their communities. The question is why 64 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: is the conservatives don't ever come to the communities and 65 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: ever pushed and ever push you know, the agenda. And 66 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: it didn't go back to me. But the thing I 67 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: wanted to say after you said it was you don't 68 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: ann rock with my girl, Sonny the way you used to. 69 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: I swear Sin, I was gonna say that because you 70 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: were on for X way before. You know, I've had 71 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: an opportunity or lawrence to anybody else. I remember way 72 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: back when you and Tim Johnson, which is how when 73 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: when I met Tim Johnson and saw you on that 74 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: panel where they brought in black conservatives and that had 75 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: to be maybe maybe at least a decade ago, if 76 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: if if not, if not even earlier if I'm to yeah, yeah, 77 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: so definitely a decade ago and they brought in I'll 78 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: never forget it was a Sean Hannity episode and brought 79 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: in black conservatives on you know what conservatism is and 80 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: hearing it from people that are on the ground, and 81 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: somehow that has shifted and changed. Can you tell me why? Um? 82 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: And during that episode, that's kind of when I got 83 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: my wake up call to what was expected of you 84 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: as a black Conservative or a Black Republican, whatever. So 85 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: we go on the panel. The whole panel is about 86 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: black Republicans, Black conservatives. Everything revolves around our color. Everything 87 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: revolves around us being black. And the very first question 88 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: that we were asked where was about being color blind? 89 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: Like I remember this is burned into my mind because 90 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, how are you gonna 91 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: bring us on a black conversation to talk about being 92 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: color blind? Like this doesn't even make any sense. So 93 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: at the beginning of it, you can if you watch 94 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: the whole thing, you can see me at the beginning 95 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: of it, like trying to play along. But by the 96 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: end of it, I was like, Yo, no, y'all have lost. Y'all. 97 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: Y'all lost, y'all. Damn mind's up in here, Like what 98 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: in the world is going on? They don't want to 99 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: talk about black issues, They don't want to put our 100 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: community at the forefront of these conversations. They don't want 101 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: to discuss the problems, and therefore they cannot provide solutions. 102 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: It is just a big ball of who can be 103 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,559 Speaker 1: the best need world in the room at the time, 104 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: and that person gets flowers laid their feet, and when 105 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: you come along and you're like, I don't want your 106 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: damn flowers. I want up policy, I want on the ground, 107 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: I want actual, effectual change. Then you become a pariah. 108 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: And so I quickly realized that either I was going 109 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: to drop out all together and just stop, or I 110 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: was going to end up fighting an entire system by myself, 111 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: and I just chose to fight the system. Yeah, tell 112 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: me why you're a conservative, Sonny, outside of I know 113 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: that a lot of because even though we say we 114 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: disagree on a lot, I think we agree on more 115 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: And I don't even know we've ever had a conversation 116 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: deeply on what we deeply disagree with that I think 117 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: we spent so much time on the issues that we 118 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: agree with that we don't sit around and say, let's 119 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: figure out where we disagree. But I think what we 120 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: what we share, uh, and what I shared with a 121 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: lot of my black conservative friends, are the values that 122 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: I was raised on. A lot of Black Americans were 123 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: raised with conservative at whether they want to agree with 124 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,239 Speaker 1: it or not. My grandmother is the most conservative person 125 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: that I know, and she votes Democrats. She's a Democrat. 126 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: That's who she always is and what she's always her own. 127 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: But tell me personally, for you, Sonny, what do you 128 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: call yourself a conservative? Or do you try to say 129 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: out of that box quote unquote of being called a conservative? 130 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: Tell me why you are. I most definitely called myself 131 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: a conservative. And it would be a lot easier for 132 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: me if I just stopped, you know what I'm saying, 133 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: Like if I if I really just stopped and it 134 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: was just like, no, I could change the title. But 135 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: when it boils down, that's what I am, and it 136 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: can go back. I can go back, and I can 137 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: look at it from four different points of view as 138 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: far as and these are the things that make up myself. 139 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: These are the things that are most important to me. 140 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: I have four areas. Which is my faith, my community, 141 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: my culture, and history. I was raised as a conservative. 142 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: I was raised was very very conservative values. I was 143 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: in a household where traditionalism was at the forefront of 144 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: everything that we did. Looking at our community in a 145 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: way where we are the stewards elvery, we don't expect 146 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: other people to be the stewards of it. We have 147 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: to take care of the old in our community. We 148 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: have to take care of the stick in our community. 149 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: We have to like that's how my mother raised us. 150 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: Is not waiting for someone else, is how do you 151 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: get yourself up to start doing it? And then if 152 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: you go into the culture, it was I wouldn't be 153 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: a conservative. It wasn't for Jay z And that's just 154 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: the way it is. He was the first one that 155 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: got to um actually have me started thinking about money 156 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: and how money works and how it's relative to the 157 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 1: situations that we find ourselves in. So one of the 158 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: first verses that I heard from him from him that 159 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: maybe actually sit back and pause, was your single was 160 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: nine cents and mom was four bucks. And I'm like, 161 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 1: wait a minute, So what is the different what what 162 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: is the difference there? Why would one album cost more 163 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: than than the other. And I actually remember sitting and 164 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: having this mental thought process with myself over that single. 165 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: Jay Zeiler, and if you want to look at the 166 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: history of it, everybody from Frederick Douglas who had the 167 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: apologizh the viewpoint that if you want to help the 168 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: negro get out of our way, like we are as skilled, 169 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: we are as a death, we are as able as 170 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: you are. If you get the hell out of our way, 171 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: you'll see what we're able to accomplish. So from the 172 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: mold of Frederick Douglas through Booker T. Washington, where he 173 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, yes we are all these things, but 174 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: this is how you put the money in place. This 175 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: is how you build the infrastructure. This is how you 176 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: build the institutions, not just having the money but also 177 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: being able to take that money and build up institutions 178 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: that support your community. This is how you do it. 179 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: Then you would go to like a Carter Woodson that 180 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: was like, during this entire process, you also have to 181 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 1: remember your history. You also have to remember where you 182 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: came from. You also have to remember the trials that 183 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: you've been through, because you've probably got out at some 184 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: point in the future, you have to go through them, 185 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: through them again and this gives you a blueprint about 186 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: how to overcome them instead of falling into the same track. 187 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: You get criticized a lot on the conservative side for 188 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: challenging conservatives and Republicans, which I think is different. And 189 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: so people are listening you talk about what conservatives don't do, 190 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: and I'm sure wondering with then why are you conservatives? 191 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: Can you go into why you're being a conservative doesn't 192 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: mean you don't call out racism. It doesn't mean that 193 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: you don't understand that there's racism on the conservative other 194 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: Republican side. Can you talk about how this happens on 195 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: both sides? It's not and and just because you're choosing 196 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: to call that one doesn't mean it doesn't happen on 197 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,599 Speaker 1: the other. I really see them as two wings of 198 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: the same bird personally meet. But when you see these 199 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: black conservative which is really getting into the topic of 200 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: the black conservative co op, let's just call it what 201 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: it is, Sunny, there's a lot of popular black conservatives 202 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: who are out there that only challenge black people, that 203 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: only this black people, that only try to tear down 204 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: black people and uplift white people. In this space, let's 205 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: go ahead and talk about what's type of what's some 206 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: of the clownship that you see that you think needs 207 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: to stop. Like, let's let's let's go ahead and be 208 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: sunny and tess as usual. Let's just have but let's 209 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: just get straight to it, and let's talk about some 210 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: of the clown ship. One of the one of the 211 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: one of the things they often do is come and 212 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: they all be like, why don't you talk about the Democrats? 213 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: And in which case, like Tess, got that Tess over there, 214 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: and she's gonna make sure that they are held accountable. 215 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: So while Test is monitoring them, I got you, So 216 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take my eyes off of you. And 217 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: that's just the way it's gonna work. So the most 218 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: basic thing is this whole concept that if black people 219 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: don't support Republicans or Conservatives, and they are slaves, their 220 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: mental slaves, they don't know what's best for them, they 221 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: don't know what's good for them. And I think like 222 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: that to me is the most disgusting element of it. Now, 223 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: these some of the more prevalent ones are when they 224 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: say that they're color blind and they they're not black, 225 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: they're American. But out of all of those, the one 226 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: that pisces me off the modes is the limiting of 227 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: the black intellect to think that it is it is 228 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: just our mental i Q levels that stop us from 229 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 1: looking at Republicans, not our own lying, you know, not 230 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: our own eyes and the things we see and every 231 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: occurrence when all of these issues come up, not our 232 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: ears and what we hear, not the lack of your presence, 233 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: not the lack of a policy platform, not the lack 234 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: of actual engagement or any kind of commonality what our culture. 235 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: In fact, all you do is tell our culture to 236 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: shut up, sit down, and be quiet. Like there is 237 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: a myriad of reasons black people do not like conservatives 238 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: and do not like Republicans, and none of them have 239 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: to do with our i Q. And you can see 240 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: it based on the fact that they won't debate with me. 241 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: They won't have the conversation with me, They won't have discussion. 242 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: They would rather run and hide and put their head 243 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: in the says because they know they can't fight it, 244 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: and they know that their faith and they are flawed. 245 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: And that's all that is presented to the right as 246 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: these are the black people that will accept them. So 247 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 1: the majority of every one of these black Conservatives or 248 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: Republicans that you see, they will they will be talking 249 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: about one of three subjects. So you'll be having them 250 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: talk about immigration, they'll be talking about abortion, or they'll 251 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: be talking about how the Democrats are the real races. 252 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: Find one black conservative that is not talking about those 253 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: three things. And the only other avenue is Second Amendment, 254 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: but those aren't in the um. You will get paid 255 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: if you talk about it category. The three things that 256 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: get you paid on the right is if you talk 257 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: about immigration, if you talk about pro life, and if 258 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: you protect the Republican Party from cause of racisms by 259 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: calling Democrats the real races, that is what is you paid. 260 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: You keep saying getting paid. And so basically what you're 261 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: saying is that most of the talking heads that you're seeing, 262 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: that you're seeing out there, it's about the bag. It's 263 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: not about where you really just stand because there is 264 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: a difference between your conserna. This is what I want 265 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: listeners to really understand. We've now been talking for about 266 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: twenty minutes or so now one time have we mentioned 267 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: what politicians we're supportive. We've only talked about the things 268 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: that we believe in. The things that you believe in 269 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: fall into conservative liberal. What are your views, what are 270 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: your ideology? How you vote is if those ideologies line 271 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: up with the Democrat or Republican candidate. So you'll hear 272 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: us talking about conservative Republicans, you know, because those are 273 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: different things in different ideologies. But we're talking about ideology 274 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: and your beliefs and your belief system. But what you're 275 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: saying is that belief system conflicts with the bag. You're 276 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: saying that conservative are Republican talking heads black specifically, because 277 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: that's what this show is about. Are moving not based 278 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: upon the principles that you believe in, because those principles 279 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: are compromised because they want the bags that correct. Yes, 280 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: and and you can get differentiate them if they go 281 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: off of those three topics, if they talk about something 282 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: other than those three topics, that it is probably someone 283 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: who is actually focused on something. But if you actually 284 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: go and you look at every one of these talking heads, 285 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: I can promise you they're talking about one of these 286 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: three topics. And it's because it is it is the 287 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: list that they are given that they must stay with it. 288 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: One thing you will never hear them talking about is 289 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: black economics. One thing you will never hear them talking 290 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: about is black empowerment. You will never hear them other 291 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: than quoting a number. You will never hear them talk 292 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: about black entrepreneurship. You will never hear them talk about 293 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: black ownership. You will never hear them talk about black equity. 294 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: Those are all things that should be included within any 295 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: conservative package that is giving out to any community because 296 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: it's the founding one of the founding principles. But in 297 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: order to talk about that, you have to talk about 298 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: institutional racism, and you will talk about the difference between 299 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: inequality and equity, and then you have to get into 300 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: those uncomfortable conversations. And that's not even the biggest portion 301 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: of it. The biggest portion of it is to understand 302 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: that the only way you're gonna solve it is if 303 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: you're on the ground. There is no federal way to 304 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: solve it, because that is not how our system is 305 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: set up. That is not how our republic functions. And 306 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: conservatives and Republicans know this, They understand this. So if 307 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: you'll hear them talking to their base, they will talk 308 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: to their base about the importance of local government. They 309 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: will talk to their base about the importance of the 310 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: school board. They will talk to their base about the 311 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: importance of city council. When it comes to a black community, 312 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: they're not touching those subjects because they know they're not 313 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: showing up. If you're gonna be a conservative, be a 314 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: damn conservative and apply it equally across the board. If 315 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: you're going into your community talking about empowerment and rebuilding 316 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: and and institutional change at some level within your community, 317 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: why aren't you taking that to the black community? And again, 318 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: if you're gonna tell me that's because you're color blind, 319 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna wonder why I'm looking at you 320 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: like you're fucking crazy. That's where I find myself Republicans 321 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: because they always are color blind until the moment you say, 322 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: let's take empowerment to this community. Doesn't matter that it's black. 323 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: Obviously it does, because it's the only time you want 324 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: to You don't want to talk about it only time. 325 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: Economics aren't at the forefront, and Democrats are the same way. You. 326 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: You don't hear democrats talking about I mean, let's be real. 327 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: That's why when you and I get along so well, 328 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: you don't hear democrats talk about the same thing. They 329 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: do not talk about black entrepreneurship. They do not talk 330 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: about equity. They do not They talk about inequality, but 331 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: they don't talk about equity. There's a difference between inequality 332 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: meaning given everybody a two footbox to stand over the 333 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: to look over the fence, but they don't talk about 334 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: equity to say I may need two boxes or three 335 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: boxes because I'm too short than the person is standing 336 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: next to me. Because when you start getting into equity, 337 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: now you're talking about conversations that are out there to 338 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: say how has wealth been distributed within our communities. And 339 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: then it goes back to one of the things we 340 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: always challenge with Democrats or and or black even though 341 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: a lot of your local seats may not necessarily be 342 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: Democrat or Republican because a lot of the local seats 343 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: are nonpartisan. But then you gotta look at who's been 344 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: really been in charge of the bag. And that's where 345 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: it brings a challenge to say, wait a minute, it's 346 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: not everybody at the federal level, it's not just Republican, 347 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: it's not just a white person. This really just comes 348 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: down to policies and the and the principles that you push. 349 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: But when you look at the democrats side or the 350 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: liberal side, it's always minorities people of color. Where minorities 351 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: white women fall into that people of color, that's anybody 352 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: other than white. When you really start talking about a 353 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: black agenda and balancing out the inequality and the equity, 354 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: that is where you find both Democrats and Republicans, conservative 355 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: and liberals running from the real conversation because now you're 356 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: talking about really changing within our community. So the same 357 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: talking points that you talked about are the same ones 358 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: you hear on the other side that says, Okay, immigration, 359 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: you make your point about the conservatives make their point 360 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: our Republicans if you will about immigration. But then I'm 361 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: gonna make my point about when we talk about people 362 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: locked in cages or family separation, I'm gonna talk about 363 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: the Nighting for a Crime Bill, because those were folks 364 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: who were locked in cages and folks separating, and it's 365 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: not take right because like, how dare you bring it 366 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: back to black people? How dare you like? Because if 367 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: nobody else is going to, then I am. And let 368 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: me say this because I don't want no confusion. Me 369 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: bringing up brothers and sisters who are locked up does 370 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: not mean I'm anti immigrant. That's not what I'm saying. 371 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: I'm saying that conversation also has to be at the table. 372 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: If we're gonna talk about the importance of people being 373 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: locked up in a cage, you cannot just pass over 374 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: mass incarceration, which was signed by President Clinton and and 375 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: Joe Biden wrote that bill and just skip over it. 376 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: When you talk about the fact that more black men 377 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: are imprisoned than those who are enslaved in eighteen fifty, 378 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: that cannot be a conversation that you just pass over. 379 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: So if we're gonna be fair about this, there's so 380 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: many different things. What Sunny and I are saying is 381 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: be equal about the ship, like deal with both sides. 382 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: And you notice this conversation. I want people to really 383 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: get this. Not one time have you said I support Trump? 384 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: Now one time have I said I support Biden? Now 385 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: one time have I made this about We've used as 386 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: examples Biden and so forth on policies, but not one 387 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: time have I told you who you need to vote for, 388 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: who you need to rock with, and what you need 389 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: to do. What I'm simply saying is no where you stand, 390 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: it doesn't have a damn thing to do with Trump, Biden, 391 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: whoever else could? Bernie Sanders I've challenged him on race. Yeah, 392 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: I don't give a damn who you are. These were 393 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: the conversations that you and I met on connected with 394 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: before they ever ran wrapped this up in about that 395 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: this is who Sunny Jounson is and who she'll always 396 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: be my commitment instead of black community and will always 397 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: come back to the black community first. You know what 398 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying, and period point blank, because nobody else is 399 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: gonna do it. And I've realized that you can't play, 400 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: you can't equivocate. If this is the let the line 401 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: that you're gonna draw on the sand, it has to 402 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: be a line that you're willing to fight tooth and 403 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: nail for, even if a lot of times you find 404 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: yourself fighting alone. And that's always what is going to 405 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: be first and foremost to me. And I'll say this 406 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: to the black community. The only thing that I want 407 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: to give is a choice. What you've been presented is 408 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: a false dichotomy or what conservatism versus liberalism looks like. 409 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: And what I would offer you is a choice to 410 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: look at it differently. The things that we came up 411 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: saying like they will never let us have, they will 412 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: never let us get, they will never let us achieve. 413 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: I am trying to say a they don't have to 414 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: let us. We could do it, whether they want us 415 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: to do it or not. And there are ways that 416 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: we can start to build our own institutions, to to 417 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: start rebuilding our own communities without gentrification, to actually start 418 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: building equity and ownership, and start giving our kids legacies 419 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: and inheritance, start being the people who protect and defend 420 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: our families, not out of some social narrative or not 421 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: against anybody else, but just because it strengthens us and 422 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: it makes us stronger going forward and realizing that our 423 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: kids are in a tremendous position to be the arbiters 424 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: of what happens next. They are in just a fabulous 425 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: position to take the technology age, to take the age 426 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: of social media and social networking, and join it with 427 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: what we give them to create a new future sure 428 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: that is run in a way that they can control 429 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: and design institutions in a way that we never had 430 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: the opportunity. But we have to be the ones that 431 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: laid the groundwork for that. So it goes beyond us 432 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: just being the best parents we can be and raising 433 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: kids that can compete with the next generation. It also 434 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: comes in to us giving them choices and then being 435 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: able to see that there is not just one road 436 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: that will get you to where you're going, that there 437 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: can be different roads and different personality types and different 438 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: goals sets, and those roads are accessible. Do they come 439 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: with speed bomps? Yes? Are you gonna And and let 440 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: me say again about racism, What I'm trying to do 441 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: is not gonna solve racism. You know what I'm saying. 442 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: I'm being upfront with you. I'm not trying to solve racism. 443 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: In fact, with what I'm trying to do, we're gonna 444 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: create a whole bunch more races because as Blacks become 445 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: more a successful, as we start to rebeld, as we 446 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: start to grow, as we start to take over our 447 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: own institutions, You're gonna see a lot of these people 448 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: who believed in like yo and and uh, you know, 449 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: in a psychophatic way, understand that they are not better 450 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: than us if they don't have it, and they're gonna 451 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: they're You're gonna see the new generation of racism pop 452 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: up in that. So I'm not trying to cure racism. 453 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: Let me say on that piggyback on that, not either 454 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,239 Speaker 1: from because it will always be there. I don't give 455 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: a damn if you don't like. And that's why this 456 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: show I always started saying, you can look for allies. 457 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: I'm looking for straight shooters, I'm looking for socialsts. Nothing 458 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: wrong would have an allies, But I want you to 459 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: identify who you are. One thing that at least has 460 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: come with this administration. I tell people, first, best and 461 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: worst thing to happen to black folks because now you're 462 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: being able to see people's true colors. Why are you 463 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: so comfortable one to everybody to sit back and not 464 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: know who you're telling me? Or you'll stay in your 465 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: ass up if you don't deal with me, guess on 466 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: me right, my cousin, I get round, son. But if 467 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: you don't funk with me, I don't funk with you. 468 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: I just want to know who you are. What I 469 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: don't like is hiding under the wolf, wolf on the 470 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: she under she's clothing, like when we talk about with 471 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: Malcolm Ay. So I don't have no problem with your 472 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: racist says. I just want to know if you're racist. 473 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: Stand over here. If you over, That's why we always 474 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: say it ain't where you fit in you either, women, 475 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta tell them all the time. Test 476 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: like you think you think one cloud will stop a show, 477 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: Like I see your racist as being the cloud. What 478 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: you think you will stop me? The day you can 479 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: stop me, I'll take you serious. The day you can 480 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: block me, I'll take you serious. The day you're smarter 481 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: than me, sharper than me, any of those things that 482 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: make you think you're supreme to me. The day any 483 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: of those things went over me, then I can have 484 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: a problem with you until that day. Six your ass 485 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: down and watch me take over, because that's what this 486 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: new picture is gonna look like. I'm not gonna be 487 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: sitting and crying over you nonsense now. And I also 488 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: want people to know that just because I'm not saying, oh, 489 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: let's stop racism, we all stop because I'm not doing 490 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: none of that damn crying. We've been seeing people on 491 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: national team. It doesn't mean that I don't acknowledge. It 492 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: doesn't even that's a big damn difference. But I want 493 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: to say, because this is really important, this black on 494 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: black crime ship, nobody is saying. First of all, it 495 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: pisces me off when we hear when I where's the 496 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: outrage black? It's people in the community, every right, And 497 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: first of all, let's deal with this. It's people in 498 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: the community, organizations in the community every day that fight 499 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: against black on black crime. And first of all, is 500 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: white on white crime is Asian or Asian crime is 501 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: Hispanic on the Spana crimes. Crime is always gonna be 502 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: within inner communities. That's a whole another conversation where we 503 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: talk about the data. But my point is there's always 504 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: been somebody there that are fighting, that is fighting for 505 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 1: a better community. They do not get the media coverage 506 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: because you don't give a damn about it. So let's 507 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: stop pretending that there's nobody they're doing it. But secondly, 508 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: the most thing that I'm gonna let get the way 509 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: back to you. The second thing is when we talk 510 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: about police brutality, we're not that hasn't to have a 511 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: damn thing to do with black on black crime. What 512 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: we are saying is when the homie get do something, 513 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: he gets arrested and he goes to jail. What we're 514 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: saying is when the government gives a person an opportunity 515 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: to have a gun power authority and they get out 516 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: of line, they too should be arrested and go to jail. 517 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: Those are two totally different conversations when we talk about 518 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: correcting things within our community and the government that has 519 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: given authority privilege and through qualified immunity allowing people to 520 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: get off for their crimes, to totally different conversations. And 521 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: that's another talking point that you see black and servative, 522 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: where's the average? Where's it that? And white folks, let 523 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: me ask you the same question, where was your damn 524 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: outrage about it? Before George Floyd, you're screaming and holland 525 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: about their I went to conservatives and Republicans, it was like, 526 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: when I first started, that's what I wanted to talk about. 527 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: They don't want to talk to me about how come on? 528 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: They didn't want to talk about black on black crime. 529 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: They don't want to hear that ship. They only want 530 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: to talk about it when these moments come up and 531 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: they can use it as a shield for their ineffectiveness 532 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: and their factlessness. That's the only time they want to 533 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: talk about it. But one of the things about black 534 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: on black crime that that really ticks me off is 535 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: there is no looking into the numbers that actually understanding 536 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: what they mean. So one of the the narratives that 537 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: comes out of the right is the good guy with gun. 538 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: How many times within those statistics is the crime the 539 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: good guy with the gun. You don't even differentiate that 540 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: that It is a dude there that was like, you 541 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: know what, You're not gonna bring this crap here, and 542 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: he defended the people that were there, and that goes 543 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: into the crime statistic. It's not looked at as separate. 544 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 1: It's not looked at like that was the good guy 545 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: with the gun. So everything looks like a violent crime 546 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: as opposed to a lot of them that are preventative. 547 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: Because bullshit people bring bullshit to us, and we defend 548 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: ourselves as we have the right to do as American citizens, 549 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: So they don't even look at the numbers to give 550 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: us the appreciation to say that in a lot of 551 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: these cases, it is us defending ourselves. It is us 552 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: taking the ability to protect ourselves as something serious, and 553 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: they don't even give us that benefit of the doubt 554 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: as American citizens. When the champions of the Second Amendment, right, well, 555 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: wife post get it, because it's called staying your ground, 556 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: want to come exactly. But when we do it, it's 557 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: it's a valid crime stat you know what I'm saying. 558 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: So even in that, you can see how ridiculous it 559 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: is at how they hold us to a higher standard 560 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: than they would ever hold themselves to. And then when 561 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: it comes to the state side of it, and the 562 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: state abusing their power, y'all, let the I R s 563 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: come out of the tea party and they're stopping their 564 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: damn feet. But let some little police officer put his 565 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: knee on the neck of a man for over eight 566 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: fucking minutes, and you got nothing. Let them come into 567 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,479 Speaker 1: Brianna Taylor's house, you got nothing. Let them cover up 568 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: armand Aubrey's case. You got nothing. But you want to 569 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: tell me you're the people that stay in the limited government. 570 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: You want to tell me that you're the people that 571 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: believe in the individual rights. You are the people that 572 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: I'm leaving the constitution. You can kiss my ass. And 573 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: the reason that they're losing is because they do not 574 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: equally apply it to every single American citizen. And that's 575 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: why they will continue to not have the numbers necessary 576 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: to actually fight this fight and actually went and it's 577 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: their own joy because they don't equally apply. Man, you 578 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: guys are listening to my sister Sonny Johnson. It I mean, 579 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: this can go on and on. It's hard to wrap 580 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: up with this system because we rapped literally like back 581 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: and forth on the microphone. We've always said my mic 582 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: sounds nice. You hear how nice how mic sounds? And 583 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: those who don't get it. This woman has been involved 584 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: with the Tea Party early on. This woman has been 585 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: pushing the conservative line for black folks. We don't gain 586 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: a lot of fans because we're in space is challenging 587 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: those in those spaces. So what I'm on thoughts news, 588 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: I don't expect to get a whole bunch of followers 589 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: unless they're following me for because I challenged Democrats. But 590 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: then when they come to my wall, don't see that 591 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm black on black on black, biggery black, then they unfollowed. 592 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: So so it is is the position is very unique. 593 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: If I wanted followers, I could do like some of 594 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: those pundits did. And all I gotta do is switch. 595 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: All I gotta do is say four words, make America 596 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: great again. I'll be a millionaire in less than six months. 597 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: It's real easy to do. Says Republicans are racist, and 598 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: I would be a millionaire. Right. So we have both 599 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: walked this line as women who believe in what we 600 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: believe in as mothers, as poets, which means very creative 601 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: into our spirit, and while we stand as women that 602 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: believe that God has given us something bigger to do. 603 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: Thank you, Sonny for not only just being who you are, 604 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: but hold your girl down, your boss lady, your boss lady. 605 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I didn't want to try 606 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: and call in this serious and see se see it 607 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: telling you the truth. I love you since Thank you 608 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: so much for chiving in with it today. And we're 609 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: gonna keep on with this movie twenties our year. It's 610 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: exposing the fake in the reel. I'm loving and simplete 611 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: every day as we continue to watch these frods fumble 612 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: and fumble the bag and fumble their policies and their 613 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: principles and everything else. We're gonna keep on riding until 614 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: we die. Thank you so much for listening to everybody 615 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: the Straight Shot No Chasing with Tesla and Figaro. It's 616 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: your girl closing out with my girls sunny jobs, and 617 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: thank you so much everybody to listen. 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