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Speaker 1: At soft rep dot com, we get to everything that

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Speaker 1: we can. Actually, just yesterday sent out the software radio

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Speaker 1: tumbler coffee mug to a listener, So maybe we'll do

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Speaker 1: another giveaway soon. Um sent him some great club stuff

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Speaker 1: as well. Uh, if you guys are into it, well

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Speaker 1: we'll do another giveaway. I mean, who doesn't like free

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Speaker 1: cool stuff? So I'm I'm all for it. I guess

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Speaker 1: another quick thing to mention that that's not really important

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Speaker 1: or anything. But since we have a few minutes before

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Speaker 1: we get to Michael was I got sent by so

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Speaker 1: many people that Dennis Rodman Rick Roll video, which I

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Speaker 1: can't really play on here. It's really more visual than audio.

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Speaker 1: But you know, the whole Rick Roll thing with Rick Astley, Uh,

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Speaker 1: never gonna give you. It's a it's a video with

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Speaker 1: Dennis Rodman. So of course I got sent it by

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Speaker 1: a lot of listeners of the show. It was like

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Speaker 1: a parody video. Yeah, I mean, I could show you

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't. It doesn't really work audibly, so you

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Speaker 1: guys might want to check it out yourself. But anytime

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Speaker 1: Dennis Rodman does something like in the news, I get

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Speaker 1: tweeted by listen areas, which I like. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: just it's not like I'm the biggest Dennis Rodman fan

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Speaker 1: in the show. But it's just it's in the world.

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Speaker 1: But you're definitely the biggest Dennis Rodman fan on the

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Speaker 1: on the correct yeah, but not in the world. But

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00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 1: it's just become anything with this guy gets attached to me. Now.

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Speaker 1: Uh so if you you guys should probably want to

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Speaker 1: check it out um online, because it's really more of

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Speaker 1: a there we go. It's really more visual than audible thing.

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Speaker 1: He says. I want to get something off my chest,

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Speaker 1: something that's bothered me for a very long time. By

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Speaker 1: the way, retweets, I'm finally ready to review it. I

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Speaker 1: hope you will still accept who I am. Okay, here

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Speaker 1: we go. It is great want. I wanted to get

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Speaker 1: him on the show still, I've I've reached out to

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Speaker 1: his team. I don't know. I'm gonna keep trying. I

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Speaker 1: would love to get him on you. We've We've gotten

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Speaker 1: some pretty big names on We've, Like I said, Roger Stone,

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Speaker 1: why can't we get Dennis Rodman? True, we should be

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Speaker 1: able to at some point, and hopefully I've been pushing

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Speaker 1: for it well. And then the last thing I want

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Speaker 1: to tell you about uh is I had I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you'd call it a dream or a nightmare

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Speaker 1: last night that you were you were involved in this

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Speaker 1: is like the biggest nightmare when you work in radio

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Speaker 1: or this podcast. And I don't know why I had it,

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Speaker 1: Maybe just other stress I was under because this has

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Speaker 1: not happened in a good two years or something. But

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Speaker 1: I had a dream that we were we recorded the

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Speaker 1: intro for this podcast, and then I was like, dude,

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Speaker 1: nothing recorded, which used to be the worst thing. Now

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Speaker 1: we're in a setup that's kind of full proof. I'm

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Speaker 1: able to see the levels and all that. But as

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Speaker 1: you know, in the history of the show, it's happened.

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Speaker 1: I think, I think, yeah, I think it may even

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Speaker 1: be three times. And the times that had happened. It

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Speaker 1: is the worst feeling in the world. Where I would

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Speaker 1: put where I put in the audio file into. I

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Speaker 1: actually still use acid Pro just because it's what I

485
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Speaker 1: learned on and know it's an old program, and you

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Speaker 1: see that flat line of audio, and I've had times

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Speaker 1: where I've just past around my block and like this

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Speaker 1: is not good. This is not good. It's not good,

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Speaker 1: Like and how do I call Jack? And then you know,

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Speaker 1: when it happened to already Scoveland, after record of like

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Speaker 1: two hours of material, I feel like such an asshole

492
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Speaker 1: calling Marty. It's the worst feeling in the world. I

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Speaker 1: think it's just other stress I was under that made

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Speaker 1: me think of this. But that's what I had a

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Speaker 1: dream about, Dude. I had a dream the other night

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Speaker 1: where I was like, sixteen again and I was like

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Speaker 1: going to some like private school, military academy or something

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Speaker 1: like that. I woke up. I was like, batty, I

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Speaker 1: had a dream And I told my wife about it,

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Speaker 1: and she's like, Jack, that's not a dream, that's a nightmare.

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Speaker 1: What what happen? Is there something terrible that happened? No,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think for just for me, it was

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Speaker 1: like this uh, like flashback to like I never went

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Speaker 1: to a military school or a military academy, but it's

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Speaker 1: like this flashback till I'm starting all over again. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a part of the dream or like

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Speaker 1: I had to go to ranger school. You know, it's

508
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Speaker 1: like stuff that you probably wouldn't want to do all

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Speaker 1: over again, you know, and you knew that you did

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Speaker 1: it already in your dream. It was like it's like

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Speaker 1: my subconscious you know, it's is he's like memories coming

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Speaker 1: back to haunt me, Like, oh my god, there really

513
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: is is weird the whole dream analysis thing. Sometimes I

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Speaker 1: do wake up and I'll you know, write down what

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Speaker 1: I'm dreaming. It's also because I'm I've mentioned it before

516
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Speaker 1: on the podcast, but I do take this supplement called

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Speaker 1: z m A which is like zinc magnesium. It's nothing.

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00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: It does help you sleep, but it's not really a

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Speaker 1: sleep supplement. It's you know, there's a lot of benefits

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Speaker 1: if you guys ever want to look it up. Victor Conti,

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00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: who's been on Joe Rogan's show, is the founder of it,

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Speaker 1: who was also arrested for the whole like steroid thing

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Speaker 1: going on in the NFL. But he's a super smart

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Speaker 1: guy and this was a supplement he created, and I'm

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Speaker 1: totally sold on it. But anyway, for people who are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's placebo, it doesn't work, you have completely vivid dreams

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Speaker 1: on that stuff that I've I've never had. When I'm

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Speaker 1: not taking it, I usually don't remember my dreams. So

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Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting. When when I was in the Army,

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Speaker 1: I used to have the dream where uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: um parachuting uh and my parachute doesn't open, so I'd

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Speaker 1: be like it'd be like a halo jump. So like

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Speaker 1: I'm pulling my main rip chord grip, parachute doesn't deploy,

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Speaker 1: so I cut away, pull my reserve rip chord grip

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Speaker 1: that doesn't work, and like I'm going through all the

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Speaker 1: like different types of contingency checks. See, like try to

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Speaker 1: get my parachute to work. I just can't get my

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Speaker 1: parachute out no matter what I do. I have like

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Speaker 1: a total malfunction. And then somehow I end up on

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Speaker 1: the ground and uh, and I'm being attacked by the

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Speaker 1: enemy and I'm shooting my gun and it jams my

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Speaker 1: rifle jam. So I go through an army they called sports.

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Speaker 1: So you're going through like your corrective measures, uh, trying

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Speaker 1: to fix the gun. It just will not unjam, it

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Speaker 1: will not fire and um. And now later on, I'd

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Speaker 1: have the civilian version of that dream when I went

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Speaker 1: to college, and I still have to this day sometimes

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Speaker 1: where you wake up it's time for the final exam

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Speaker 1: and you forgot to study, which is like very common

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Speaker 1: for college students to have. So it's like, yeah, I've

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Speaker 1: had I have both of the it's the same. It's

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00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: the same kind of performance anxiety for the military for college,

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Speaker 1: I think. And you probably have those like night sweats

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Speaker 1: when you wake up from that. Oh my god, do

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Speaker 1: you ever since you said it's a halo jump, I've

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Speaker 1: had I've had dreams that involved like car accidents or

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. Do you feel like you're literally falling

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Speaker 1: into your bed. I've had that before where I wake

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Speaker 1: up and I feel like I was thrown right into

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Speaker 1: my bed. No, I never had that, but I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what was super fucking creepy. It was. This is

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Speaker 1: the first time it'd ever happened to me about a

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00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: year ago, where um, I woke up. I was having

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Speaker 1: a nightmare and I woke up and I absolutely thought

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Speaker 1: I was awake, but I was still in the nightmare

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Speaker 1: it and it kept going, and then I woke up

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Speaker 1: and I finally woke up for real. This is like inception. Yeah,

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00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: and it and it took me. I laid in bed,

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Speaker 1: no ship for like ten That's just like making sure, like,

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Speaker 1: am I really awake this time. I've sort of had that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've also experienced throughout my life. I've had sleep paralysis.

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Speaker 1: I've never had that. You've mentioned that. Yeah, I've had

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Speaker 1: sleep paralysis maybe twenty or thirty times, which I've heard

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Speaker 1: the first time experience it is like and uh, I've

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Speaker 1: read that it only happens to most people once in

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Speaker 1: an entire lifetime, if at all. Some people may say PTSD,

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Speaker 1: if I even had happen, I even had it when

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00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: I was a kid. Yeah, and I haven't had it

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Speaker 1: in quite a while. I think when I was living

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Speaker 1: in my last apartment, so like maybe the last time

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Speaker 1: it happened was like a year or year and a

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Speaker 1: half ago. Um, But yeah, I've had it quite a bit,

583
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: and my my sister has had it also quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if it's genetic or what. Interesting. Well,

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00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: if you guys have any weird sleep analysis stuff you

586
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: want to mention, send it to Software Up dot Radio

587
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: at softwrep dot com. I find that to be a

588
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: fascinating topic. But with that Michael Broderick I know is

589
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: standing by, I'm really excited to talk to him. Uh.

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00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: Interesting background and I would never think that this guy

591
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Speaker 1: was in the military from when I was born. He

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00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: he looks young, so yeah he does, but he's he's

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Speaker 1: like fifty, but he does look like still in his thirties. Maybe, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree. Joining us for the first time on Software

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Speaker 1: Up Radio, Michael Broderick. There's so much that I want

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00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: to get into, but just to give some background. His

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Speaker 1: latest role is Special Agent Sean Bownen, which is a

598
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: recurring character on True Detective. The newest season, season three

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Speaker 1: He's also been in The People Versus O. J. Simpson

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Speaker 1: and c I s Cel Team, a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: other shows, and the connection with our shows. He served

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Speaker 1: as a marine from six to nine is the logistics

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Speaker 1: UH specialist with Marine White Attack Helicopter Squadron one sixties seven.

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Speaker 1: A lot of great stuff to get into that. That

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00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: and I'm also a huge fan of True Detective too. Yes,

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00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: so excited to have you on for the first time. Oh,

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00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: thanks so much for having me, guys, I really thanks

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00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,719
Speaker 1: so much for having me. I appreciate it absolutely. Um So,

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Speaker 1: I think before we even get into True Detective, I

610
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Speaker 1: think the audience might want to know your background as

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Speaker 1: a marine. As I said, I would never think just

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Speaker 1: looking at your picture that you served from eighty six

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00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: to ninety you will go a lot younger. But that's

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Speaker 1: when I mean is when I was born. So there's

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00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: a huge age gap there. But that's that's cool, man.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've you've lived an interesting life from this

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Speaker 1: to acting. So maybe we can get into the origin

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00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: of the military career. Well, you know, I look so

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Speaker 1: good because all that clean living. Man, I guess not

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00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 1: four years, but I joined when I was seventeen, so um,

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Speaker 1: you know I was, I was even young going in

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Speaker 1: but um uh yeah, I joined right after my um

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Speaker 1: senior year in high school. I actually actually joined during

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Speaker 1: my senior year and got in on the delayed entry program.

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Speaker 1: Uh So November of eighty five I signed up, and

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Speaker 1: uh and I spent the summer at home because I

627
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Speaker 1: grew up on the Jersey Shore, so uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to leave right after school. A little

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Speaker 1: town called spring Lakes on on the shore down by

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Speaker 1: Asbury Park, Okay cool. I used to spend summers down it,

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Speaker 1: like Seaside and some of those other places. Sure, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know sea Side we go to. You know, they

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Speaker 1: had a good water slide down there, so we'd, uh

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Speaker 1: we go down there every once in a while. And

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00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: many years before the show Jersey Shore. So yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: we were the locals though they were all what we

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Speaker 1: would call Benny's. Benny's were the people that would come

638
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Speaker 1: down from New York or other places in North Jersey

639
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: to uh to invade our shore every every year. Uh

640
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: So I joined, Uh, I joined and went in September

641
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: of eighty six, and uh you know, did boot camp

642
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: over Parris Island and then uh went out to school

643
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: in Little Creek in Virginia and then hit the fleet

644
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: uh and matched up with HML A one sixty seven,

645
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: did a med float with HMM two sixty four, you know,

646
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: Composite Squadron and uh, yeah, man did a couple of cats.

647
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: That's about the extent of it. But had a great time,

648
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: and uh it really kind of um. You know, my

649
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: time in the Marine Corps definitely taught me that I

650
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: can do whatever I put my mind to. You know.

651
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: I always used to say, uh, you know, whatever I

652
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: was trying to do, whether it was gett into music

653
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: or later get into acting, people would be like, oh,

654
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's really hard. I'm like, well, they can't

655
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: send me back to boot camp. So uh, you know

656
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 1: I kind of felt like, you know, if I got

657
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: through that and then I can pretty much do anything.

658
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: What was it in your back of your mind already

659
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: that you thought you might pursue an acting career. Yeah. Absolutely.

660
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: I grew up, like I said on the Jersey Shore,

661
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: I did a lot of um community theater and things

662
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: like that. Uh, and I wanted to be an actor,

663
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: and since I was seventeen when I joined, I had

664
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: to get my parents permission, and my dad was not. Uh,

665
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 1: he wasn't really enthusiastic about me joining the Marines, and

666
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: uh because because I was a little guy. I was

667
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: like a hundred and thirty pounds, you know, and like

668
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: five ft ten and I was like a string bean.

669
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: And uh, so he tried to talk me out of

670
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: it by saying, he's like, look, John Wayne, so I'm

671
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 1: gonna do an impression my father. He's like, John Wayne

672
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: was in every American war and he never served in

673
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: the military. Right now, I'm like, yeah, but you know,

674
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna join. So he couldn't he couldn't dissuade me,

675
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: and and uh and he ended up signing the papers.

676
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, I absolutely wanted to be an actor before that.

677
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: I figured I'd do my four get out and then

678
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 1: uh go to Los Angeles and and uh and become

679
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: an actor. But it just took me another decade and

680
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: a half, I guess too, to get that done. How

681
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: did it end up payning out? Well, it's funny. When

682
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: I got out of the Cores, I went to New

683
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: York City. I moved to New York City and decided

684
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: pursue it there, but really didn't know what I was doing.

685
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: I did some stand up comedy for a little while,

686
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: just because that was something you could if you brought

687
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: two friends, you could get on stage right then, you know,

688
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: at least at the open mic nights. So I did

689
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: that for a little while. But that's a really tough gig,

690
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: and it wasn't I wasn't cut out for that. Um.

691
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: And then I met a guy who was putting together

692
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: a band. And I played in bands in high school

693
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: and and in the Marines even and then, uh, you know,

694
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: we we decided we were gonna bring punk back in

695
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: but unfortunately nobody was getting signed out in New York

696
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: back then, and uh, you know, and then Green Day

697
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: hit and the Offspring and all these other bands and

698
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: and we said, you know what, we're missing this boat.

699
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: But we gave it our best shot for about ten years. UM.

700
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: I met my wife while playing at CBGB in and

701
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: um and uh we got married in two thousand. Uh

702
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: and then nine eleven happened, and uh, I was kind

703
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: of like, I don't know, you know, like when somebody

704
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: drops a building on a on a bunch of people

705
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: in your town, it kind of makes you re evaluate things. Um.

706
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 1: And so I started flirting with the idea of acting again.

707
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: Because I don't know if you remember at the time

708
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: Band of Brothers was was on HBO. It had just

709
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: it had just started before nine eleven, I think, and uh,

710
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: and I became really engrossed in that and just I mean,

711
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: I continue to say to this dead it's it's one

712
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: of the finest things ever put to film. Um. But

713
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: it had a huge impact on me, and uh, you know,

714
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: I started thinking about being an actor again. I got

715
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: into doing some voice over stuff and uh, kind of

716
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: exiting the music world and um, then when I heard

717
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: they were doing the Pacific. I guess it was about

718
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: two thousand three that I heard that HBO was going

719
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: to do the Pacific on the Marines, and I was like,

720
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta go be in this. So two

721
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: thousand four, my wife and I had just bought an

722
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: apartment on right off Bleaker Street in Manhattan and our

723
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: son was about a year old, and I was like,

724
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: you know what, I really got to go do this. Um.

725
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: I sat my wife down at the kitchen table and

726
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: I said, look, honey, I think I want to go

727
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: be an actor, and uh, you know, and she, you know,

728
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: she had an excellent job. I was working doing voice

729
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: over stuff, so I'd already made a you know, some inroads.

730
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: And my wife's always been a big believer in in

731
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: in Maine and uh so after some discussion, she was like,

732
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: all right, if that's what you want to do, let's

733
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: let's go do it. So she quit her job, we

734
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: sold the apartment which we just bought, and uh and

735
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: we moved out to Los Angeles in two thousand four.

736
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: I think that's so cool to have someone so supportive

737
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: because it reminds me of We've had Brad Thorn on

738
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: the podcast before and he spoke about how he was

739
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: doing other things and his wife asked to him, like,

740
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: you know, what's your dream that you want to and

741
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: he was like, I want to publish a fiction book.

742
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: And she's like, well, you gotta get out there and

743
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: fucking do it, and and he actually did it. And

744
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: I feel like most people's stories are the opposite. Unfortunately,

745
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: like their partner says to them, you know, like yeah,

746
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: that you know that's a dream, you gotta do something stable,

747
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: they themselves kind of put that like cap on their expectations. Yeah,

748
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: And also, you know, I understandably they'll be like you

749
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: have a kid. Now it's not about you. You gotta

750
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: go for the money, you know. Yeah, absolutely, and that's

751
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: uh well, it's one of the reasons I married her.

752
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: Um I think she uh she her first taste of me,

753
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: She'll tell you is when I was, you know, playing

754
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: guitar on stage. So uh she she I guess she

755
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: she saw something, she saw some talent or something. Uh.

756
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 1: And then when I got you know, I started breaking

757
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: into voice over pretty quickly. Uh. And then so it

758
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: wasn't out of the you know, completely out of the

759
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: realm of possibilities, like you know what I might be

760
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: able to do this? Um Now. Of course, then we

761
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: moved out to Los Angeles, and yeah, I couldn't even

762
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: get an audition for the Pacific because I didn't have

763
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: any kind of resume, you know. But now looking back,

764
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, now I'm an actor, so you know,

765
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: I guess I guess I got the job done. And

766
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: they're like just totally different ecosystems too. As far as

767
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: the entertainment industry is concerned. Between New York and l A. Yeah,

768
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: I didn't really tuck into it very much in uh

769
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: in New York, I didn't really start my on camera

770
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: stuff film and television until I was out here. But

771
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: I did crack the you know, the voiceover world out there,

772
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: and that's why I started my you know doing commercial

773
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: voice over and things. Um. And so I had a

774
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: decent income coming in through that anyway, which which definitely helped. Uh.

775
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: And then when we sold our apartment, it was, you know,

776
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: we made made a nice chunk of change down that

777
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: even though we weren't even in there very long. That

778
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: the real estate market was crazy in New York at

779
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: the time, So I gave us a nice little buffer

780
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: when we came out to Los Angeles and got a house,

781
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: and and I had some money to to to live

782
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: off while we uh, you know, while I get my

783
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: feet under me. Would you consider this your biggest role yet, because,

784
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: like I said, you've been in The People versus O. J.

785
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: Simpson and C. I. S. But this is a recurring

786
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: role and could lead to something bigger, maybe in season four. Yeah,

787
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: this is absolutely the biggest thing I've done so far. Um.

788
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 1: You know, they're different. I don't know if you're familiar

789
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: with the with the hierarchy of of of television or

790
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: film roles in television, you know, you get a co

791
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: star role. I've got a slew of those, which is basically,

792
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, you work one episode, you have a couple

793
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 1: of lines whatever, um, Like in The People versus O. J. Simpson,

794
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: I play a reporter who comes up to Johnny Cochrane.

795
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: We banter a little bit and that's that. Uh, And

796
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: that's that was most of my career. It was, you know,

797
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: showing up for one episode. I'm a I'm a you know,

798
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: FBI agent here, I'm a sheriff deputy here or whatever. Um,

799
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 1: that's the main body of my work. It wasn't until

800
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, doing it for several years and kind of

801
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: getting uh, kind of feeling feeling like I had plateaued

802
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 1: and and not understanding why not getting better opportunities that

803
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: I decided to go back into training and so, uh,

804
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, I got with a great teacher. His name

805
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: is John. His name is John Lacy, and we, uh,

806
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: we have a group of actors, the Lacy Group, that

807
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: gets together on Tuesday nights and we we work out.

808
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: You know, it's like going to the gym. You do

809
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: scenes together, you trade impulses, you stay sharp and um.

810
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: I started working with him with the specific goal of

811
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: getting a guest star, which is the next level up. Uh.

812
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: And after working with him a year, I got my

813
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: first guest star audition, and then within six months after that,

814
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: I got my first guest star role and I was

815
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: on n C I s uh. And then I've continued

816
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: to um kind of build up from there, and this

817
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: is my first uh recurring heavy recurring role. Um. You know,

818
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: I think it's several episodes, at least four. I think

819
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: I think it'll be five once once the whole thing

820
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: is all said and done, depends how they cut it.

821
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: But um, this was a huge deal for me. This

822
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: is this is definitely a game changer. Uh, not only

823
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: for because it's such a it's such a prestige property

824
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: for HBO and and and it's really well respected, but

825
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: also because of the uh you know, the FaceTime I

826
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: have on it. And there's a lot of eyeballs on

827
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: this show, so uh, you know, I hope to capitalize

828
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 1: on some of that momentum. Yeah, I mean True Detective

829
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: is probably like my favorite show on TV. Um and

830
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: it's just known for having you know, it combines a

831
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: star power just like very strong writing, very high quality

832
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: production values. Yeah. Absolutely, Oh and I should mention though,

833
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: because there's uh, you know, every every season it's an

834
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: entirely new cast and new story in new locations. So

835
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: so I won't be back for a season four war.

836
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I'm I'm looking at this as

837
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: just a phenomenal experience. I mean, working alongside me herchel

838
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: Ali and Stephen Dorff was was crazy. Actually, I don't

839
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: know if you saw the latest episode of Just There

840
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: the other night. Um, we tried, I'm not gonna lie.

841
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: We tried to get HBO to send us some stuff

842
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: and they seem to be holding. We haven't gotten a

843
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: chance to watch it. That's all right, that's all right.

844
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: Episode four. There's no I'm not giving any spoilers right now.

845
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: I'm just I just want to have an anecdote about it.

846
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: There's one scene in there where you know, um, my

847
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: character John Bowen, he uh he's part of a four

848
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 1: man task force. You have the two local detectives played

849
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: by me Herchela and Stephen, and then myself and Tim Griffin.

850
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: We play the two FEDS who come down to UH

851
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: to assist in in the investigation. And there's a one

852
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: scene in episode four where we're going over all the

853
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: evidence we've collected so far and and uh uh while

854
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: we were shooting that, I think it was like the

855
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: second thing I shot. Uh, you know, they shoot all

856
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: this stuff out of sequence. Um. And I'm sitting there

857
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: across from Reharchelale and I'm like, I had a flashback

858
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: in between takes. I had this flashback to sitting across

859
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: from my wife and dreading the thing I was about

860
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: to say to her, like how is she going to

861
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: react when I say, look, I want you to quit

862
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: your job and let me go try to chase this dream. Uh.

863
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: And I said to myself, Wow, now I'm sitting across

864
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: from my from a freaking Oscar winner and I'm waiting

865
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: for the director to say action. You know. Um it was,

866
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: it was. It was a real great moment. I kind

867
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: of got to sit there with that, with that energy

868
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: and uh and kind of bring that to some of

869
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: my performance. Um. So that was very special to me.

870
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. And I mean your story really is

871
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: just one of kind of like doing the leg work,

872
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: you know, and starting like from you said voiceovers to

873
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: you know, graduating your way upwards to do in this

874
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: and you know, it seems like it took a lot

875
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: of hard work over a long period of time. Well,

876
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: it's you definitely, you know, uh, you pay your dues.

877
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: I mean, you know you look at you look at

878
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: most of the actors you know right now, Uh, you

879
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: see him, you know if you if you do your homework,

880
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: you see that. You see them in smaller roles going

881
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: back for years you just didn't know who the heck

882
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 1: they were. I mean, look at you know, the great

883
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: Brian Brian Cranston. You're like, okay, we kind of got

884
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: to know him with Malcolm him in the middle and

885
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: then you know, Breaking Bad, it's huge, and now he's

886
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: just killing it. So you know, so many great performances

887
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 1: under his belt. But then you know, you're watching Saving

888
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: Private Ryan and you're like, oh, jeez, he's the one

889
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: armed colonel or whatever his rank was in the in

890
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: the in the office. When uh, when they when the

891
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: typist finds all the letters about the James Ryan or

892
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: James Ryan's brothers being all killed and they bring him

893
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: to the general and he reads that that letter from

894
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln. And like Brian Cramston had like two lines

895
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: in Saving Private Ryan, didn't I didn't even know he

896
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: was in the movie. I'm telling you go back and

897
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: watch it. You know. That's in paying his dues. Um uh.

898
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: And there's so many you know, I mean, you could

899
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: just run down the list. There's so many stories like that.

900
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm I'm happy with the trajectory of

901
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: my career so far. And I uh, every job I've

902
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: gotten has been, you know, just a building block for me,

903
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: and so um, I'm happy to have put in the

904
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: time I've been doing this. I guess I got my

905
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: first job it was on twenty four in two thousand six,

906
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: and I've just been kind of building my career since then.

907
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: It's super cool, and I hope a lot of other

908
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: veterans here this podcast, because I know a lot of

909
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: our guys they do kind of, uh drift over to

910
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: Hollywood and pursue, if not acting, some other uh you know,

911
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: something else in production or something else in the entertainment industry. Yeah.

912
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. I'm part of vm A Veterans and Media

913
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 1: and Entertainment. UM. I think now we're about gosh, three

914
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: thousand members strong across the country. The main hub is

915
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles, and I was fortunate enough to

916
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: be sitting at the at that at the table when um,

917
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: uh Mike Dowling and Kyle Housman Stokes a Marine veteran

918
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: and Army veteran, respectively, I had the idea to put

919
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: the thing together. And they called some um, you know,

920
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: I had had a little bit of success and and uh,

921
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: they called some veterans that they knew had already gotten

922
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: their foot in the door. And about a dozen of

923
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 1: us sat around the table and and and hashed the

924
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: idea out. Um. But they those two, those two fellas, uh,

925
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: you know, did all the legwork and standing it up. Uh.

926
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: They've since moved on from the organization. But um, it's

927
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: it's just grown and grown, and it's been a great

928
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: um support system, I think for not only for me,

929
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: but for a lot of veterans here in Hollywood. Well,

930
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: what do you think are some of the opportunities out

931
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: there for veterans in Hollywood or maybe either even in

932
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: television elsewhere. Um, as far as you know that we're

933
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: making an awful lot of war Flix nowadays, I mean

934
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: there are some pretty good opportunities out there for actors

935
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: or technical advisors and things like that who actually come

936
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: from the veteran community. Well, I don't think there's any

937
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: greater UM opportunity. I mean, the fact is if if

938
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: this is the reason I'm doing this is because I

939
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't be happy doing anything else, you know what I mean? Um,

940
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: if I mean, that's why I got into music, It's

941
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: why I got you know, I've always wanted to be

942
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: an entertainer as long as as long as I've lived,

943
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: I've wanted to um have an effect on people through

944
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: whatever art form you know I was dealing, uh, whether

945
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: it's music or or acting. So um, I think the

946
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: opportunity is just as available to anybody. But there's certainly

947
00:51:55,480 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: a lot of um military based projects out there. I mean,

948
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: look at Seal Team on CBS. Tyler Gray. I don't

949
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: know if you know Tyler. He's a you know, he's

950
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: a former operator and he's a producer on the show.

951
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: He has a role on the show. He's like the

952
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: technical advisor on the show. UM, and he's just crushing it.

953
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: He brings in or well, I should say, the show

954
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: brings in a lot of veterans to uh you know,

955
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: not only do stunts and roles on the show, but

956
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: in all aspects of production. So UM, yeah, I guess

957
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: to your question, is there a There are plenty of

958
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: opportunities for anybody, but now is certainly a good time

959
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: if you're if you have a certain skill set to

960
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: um to to give it a shot, you know, if

961
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: that's really what you want to do. I was actually

962
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: gonna ask about the vets groups you're a part of,

963
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: because I also saw that you're a member of that

964
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: scene on TV and that you guys raised ten thousand

965
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 1: dollars for Gallant Few, who were familiar with a run

966
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: Ranger Run. We've had Karl Monger on before you and

967
00:52:54,800 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: Michael Schlitz. Yeah, Mike Schlitz introduced the Gallant Few. I

968
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: was I volunteer with u c l A Operation Mend,

969
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: which is UM an organization out here that a program

970
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 1: that that does plastic surgery for for UH military members

971
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: who are like severely wounded. You know, some like Mike Schlitz.

972
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: He's hand over eighty operations. I think UM and UH

973
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: and I act as a buddy. Basically, when when somebody

974
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: has an operation coming up, they're usually in from out

975
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: of town, they don't have any family with them oftentimes,

976
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: and so there's a lot of downtime pre opera, post stop.

977
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: So I I just act as a you know, a

978
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: friend who can come by. We'll go to dinner, We'll

979
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: go to a movie. You know, I'll take him to

980
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'll meet you know, I'll take him

981
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 1: over to meet Gary soneee or you know, if I

982
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: if I can call somebody in my rolodex and and

983
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: they can take some time. Which Gary is always great,

984
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: as you guys know, I'm sure he does a ton

985
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: for for the military and veterans. But anyway, Mike introduced

986
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: me to Gallant few and early on I was just

987
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: so impressed with their model because, uh, at the time,

988
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: there wasn't another one like it, that that one on

989
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: one peer to peer mentorship. Uh. And it really has

990
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: changed a lot of lives. I mean, I can't tell

991
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: you the amount of times I've seen on social media

992
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 1: just post saying Karl Monger saved my life. Um. And sorry,

993
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: I get you know, I even get a little emotional

994
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: talking about this. I think, Um, they've had a profound

995
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: impact on on the veteran community, and so uh, you

996
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: know I was. I did a project for them years ago,

997
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 1: back in two thousand and twelve called the Poster Project,

998
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: where I got a uh movie poster a band of

999
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: brothers and it was signed by six of the original

1000
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: Easy Company veterans. And then I went around and I

1001
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: and I collected signatures from thirty casting crew you know,

1002
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: including Damien Lewis, and Ron Livingston and Steven Spielberg, Tom Hanks. Uh.

1003
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: And that took me like fifteen months. I got to

1004
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: go around Hollywood and try to connect with all these

1005
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: cast members. It was really it was cool, and we

1006
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: ended up auctioning it off to benefit Gallant Few and Carl.

1007
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: Then Carl then asked me to sit on the board

1008
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: of directors, So I did that for a few years. Recently, UH,

1009
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: took a step away from that just to focus on

1010
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: some other things. But I continue to support them. And

1011
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: one of the ways we support that is obviously their

1012
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: annual fundraiser, Run Ranger Run so Vets Scene on TV

1013
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 1: is a team that I put together. I started doing

1014
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: it last year and this is the second year we're

1015
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: doing it of just uh, you know, other myself and

1016
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: other veterans that that work in the industry, that you

1017
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: know that our actors, um. Well, we we form a

1018
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: ten person team and we go out and do the

1019
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 1: miles in February, you know, it's five sixty five miles

1020
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: for a team and uh, and we raise money. So

1021
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: we're doing that again kicking off February first. This year's

1022
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: team is awesome. Uh. There's myself, There's Vinny Rocko Vargus,

1023
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: you know from Range fifteen, right, and he's on the

1024
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: Man's MC now. Uh. Aaron Williamson, who is uh is

1025
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: a marine, a bodybuilder and uh an actor. Do you

1026
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: ever do you ever see that that video that went

1027
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: viral of j K Simmons where he's all like blasted out,

1028
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: like totally shredded in the gym. You know. J K

1029
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: Simmons is the actor who played like j Jonah Jameson

1030
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: in the Spider. But I'm not familiar with the video

1031
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: you're talking about. Oh my gosh, there's like photos and

1032
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: videos you look up j K Simmons ripped and uh

1033
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: and um Aaron Aaron is his trainer. You know, he's

1034
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: gotten a lot of guys in shape for for film

1035
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 1: and television anyway. Hyer, Murray tim Abel who's an Army ranger,

1036
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: Jen Marshall, Alan Petrochewsky, Dave Meadows, Leepy Kim and James

1037
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: James Lee Young is our team. This year, and these

1038
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: are all folks that have been on like Stranger Things,

1039
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 1: Hawaii five, oh, Um, Seal Team, you know, a lot

1040
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: of great show and films. Go ahead. I was just saying,

1041
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Yeah, yeah, So we have a you know,

1042
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: we have a We're all over social media is uh

1043
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: vets on TV. We're on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, So if

1044
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: you want to, if folks want to keep up with

1045
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: us and pick your favorite veteran actor, then you know,

1046
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: you can go to our run Range of run page

1047
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: and drop a donation if you feel like it. It

1048
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: all goes to the great mission of It goes to

1049
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: the mission of serving our veterans and our transition and

1050
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: veterans through Gallant Few. You know, it's great to see

1051
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: that you're a part of that, and it really is

1052
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: a small world that we know some of these same

1053
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: people and that's a great thing to be able to

1054
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: be there for someone going through a surgery who doesn't

1055
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: have family in the area. Um. Actually, since we're on

1056
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: you know that subject, I know another topic that you're

1057
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: passionate about from looking at your social media is autism.

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00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: Being the father of a child with autism, I should

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00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: tell you this, which is kind of interesting. You might

1060
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: not know this connection. Another former Marine we've had on

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00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: the show and a former and a punk rocker is c. J.

1062
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: Ramon from The Ramons. His his child, his autism, who

1063
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: I've you know, met before. It was a lot older now,

1064
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: But a great story he told on the show is

1065
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: that he turned down that role as the bass player

1066
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: from Metallica UM when Jason knew Staid left the band

1067
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: because his son was young at the time, and he

1068
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: was like, look, I want to be there for my

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00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: son who was special needs. And you know he doesn't

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00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: regret it, Oh, not at all. I mean when when

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00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: I first came out here to Los Angeles in two

1072
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: thousand four is when my son was diagnosed. And uh

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00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: so that was a uh you know, it's it changes

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00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: your perspective again, you know again uh, and your priorities

1075
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: shift and so um at the time, when my wife

1076
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: had went back to work, she she was able to

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00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: stay at home with him for a while, which was great,

1078
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: but then you know, when she went back to work,

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00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: I was basically you know, halftime in it. Um. I

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00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: you know, I was, I was only I was only

1081
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: able to pursue my career until he was done with

1082
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,919
Speaker 1: school and so, uh, we had to make that work.

1083
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: And then later on it was very fortunate that my

1084
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: in laws came and lived with us. They can, they're

1085
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: still with us now, and that allowed me to really

1086
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: go after my career and I've made some some great

1087
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: leaps forward because of that. My son sixteen now though,

1088
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: my son sixteen, and he's just fantastic. I mean, you know,

1089
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: he's uh, he's just a funny kid, so smart and

1090
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: awesome personality and he's just he's a lot of fun.

1091
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. I think c J's son is

1092
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: right around that same age, give or take a year,

1093
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: and if I remember correctly speaks multiple languages. Very bright kid,

1094
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: and you know, it definitely smashes that stereotype of autism

1095
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: for people who are ignorant of what it is, because

1096
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you're And he watched intelligence sometimes more intelligent.

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00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I I remember actually work king with a

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01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: guy when I worked at Tower Records who had Asperger's

1099
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: and he was like an encyclopedia for music. You asked

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01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: him any question and he was able to tell you, you

1101
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: you know, the in and outs of it if it

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01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: involved music. Yeah, I think that's awesome that he was

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01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: able to, uh, you know, apply his his interests in

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01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: knowledge into his work. You know, I think that's that's

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01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: the key for anyone who thinks differently. I think, like

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01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: my son has a lot of interest. Right now, we're

1107
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: trying to figure out you know, he's a junior in

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01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: high school. He's going to graduate, uh the year after

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01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: so I guess next year for so next year he'll

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01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: graduate um. And you know, we're trying to figure out

1111
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: what does it what does he want to do? But

1112
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: but like you said, when he or at least with

1113
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: with my son, and I guess with c Jason, when

1114
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: he has particular interests, that becomes everything. You know, like

1115
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: right now, he could tell you, he could tell you

1116
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: anything about Australia. Yeah, he's literally I think he wants

1117
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: to move to Australia. He talks about marrying an Australian

1118
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: girl so he can get citizenship and move there. It's like,

1119
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean I don't love America. I'm like, okay,

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01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: better on, Well, what if you wanted to to go

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01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: to college and like study abroad in Australia. Would he

1122
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: be able to do that or do you know it's

1123
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: so funny. We we just we just talked about that

1124
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: the other day. My wife was saying, you know, she's like,

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01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: oh my god, I wouldn't know what i'd do, you know,

1126
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: like he would say it and we'd like laugh about it,

1127
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: but we're like, he could go do that, you know.

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Speaker 1: Um and uh so it's it's you know, look for

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01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: any parent, it's scary when your kids start to get

1130
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: to that age where they're they're going to be independent. Um.

1131
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 1: So well, if you want to, if you want to

1132
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: scare him back to the United States, you can turn

1133
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: back the time to a few podcasts previously where we

1134
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: had a Australian military diver on and during an exercise

1135
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: he got attacked by a shark and um lost to

1136
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: end in his leg. Oh that's that's terrible. But that's

1137
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: for my son. That's a feature, not a bug. Well

1138
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: he I mean he turned out okay. He uh he

1139
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: went back on active duty and he's doing great. Now. Um,

1140
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: that's outstanding. And my son is it loves sharks. That's

1141
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,919
Speaker 1: his whole thing. He loves sharks. Um. I think that's

1142
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: why he loves Australia. We we actually got to go

1143
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 1: there this past year and we uh snorkeled the Great

1144
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: Barrier reef and at one point we're on the boat,

1145
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: uh having launched in between snorkels, and uh, there's like

1146
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: five or six black tip reef sharks like around the

1147
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: back of the boat and these are good like three

1148
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: four footers kids right in the water and like like

1149
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:47,919
Speaker 1: you know, and of course, the as soon as people

1150
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: started getting the water, the sharks took off. But I'm like,

1151
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, now, you know, I had to get in instantly,

1152
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: of course, and um, but he's like, no, no, they did.

1153
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,959
Speaker 1: The reef sharks they just they just eat little fish,

1154
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: don't attack people. And like knowledge is power for this kid.

1155
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: You know, he knows, uh, he knows all these things

1156
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: about the sharks and marine life. And now you know,

1157
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: seven of the eight world's eight most poisonous steaks are

1158
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,919
Speaker 1: in Australia. I'm learning all kinds of crazy stuff, which

1159
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: is which is awesome. That is that is interesting because

1160
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: the people that I have met with um autism or aspergers,

1161
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: that does seem to be a recurring theme is that

1162
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 1: they have a fascination in something and they become extremely

1163
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: knowledgeable about it. Yeah. Absolutely, Well, like I said, these

1164
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: are great causes that you're a part of. Um. You

1165
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: know what I I also wanted to ask you about, just

1166
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: getting back to the show itself. Is you playing special

1167
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: Agent John Bowen? This is kind of uh similar to

1168
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 1: other roles that you've played. So I'm I'm curious if

1169
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: your time in the core uh just makes you familiar

1170
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: with these type of roles and and makes it so

1171
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: that you're able to play this type of thing on

1172
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: TV or is there a connection there for you? Yeah? Absolutely,

1173
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: I mean, um, there's I mean, you know, you know

1174
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: about military bearing, it's it's uh they beat it into

1175
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: it and in the Marines or whatever branch you servant,

1176
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: so it comes naturally, um. And it's not something I

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01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: have to put on. Uh. So I think when you know,

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01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at my career, almost almost

1179
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: every character I've played on television or in a film

1180
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: is carrying a gun. UM. So I think that military bearing,

1181
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:39,919
Speaker 1: being familiar with with with the culture uh just makes

1182
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: it more natural when I walk into an audition, I

1183
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 1: don't I don't feel like I have to put it

1184
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: on uh. And and I you know, and I certainly

1185
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: don't put a bunch of stank on it. You know,

1186
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 1: I was watching your Real this morning where you were

1187
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: playing a police officer and you know, it's a couple

1188
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: of cops and you're breaking each other's balls, and I

1189
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'm sure his time in the military

1190
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: played into this pretty well. Absolutely. That's that was from Power,

1191
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: which which is uh one of my favorite roles ever.

1192
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: I really get to to throw down with the other actor,

1193
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: and um uh, you know, in that particular situation, I

1194
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: was the local NYPD detective and he's a fed rolling

1195
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: into my crime scene and I don't like that, So

1196
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: that was easy for me, you know, to kind of

1197
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: uh you know, raise the hackles a little bit and

1198
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: go after him. Um uh. Coming up in a couple

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01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: of weeks, I play the reverse side of that situation

1200
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: on SWAT on CBS. UH is an episode I think

1201
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: this episode fourteen of of this season. It's called the

1202
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: B Team, and uh I think it airs February seven. Anyway,

1203
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 1: I play a federal agent who's rolling into the local

1204
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 1: you know, uh SWAT headquarters and and kind of you know,

1205
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: stirring things up. So I've now I've gotten to play

1206
01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: both sides of that equation, and it's it's interesting. Well,

1207
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited to see it. This has been a

1208
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: fascinating interview. If people want to check out your social

1209
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: media on Twitter, it's at m underscore Broderick at that's

1210
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: Michael Broderick on Instagram. Uh. And of course you're here

1211
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: promoting True Detective. UM, so if you want to shoot

1212
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: out where people could watch or anything else that you're promoting, Uh,

1213
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: go for it. Yeah, absolutely Uh True Detectives currently airing

1214
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: on HBO episode as we record this. Episode four just aired,

1215
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: so episode five will air on Sunday, and we'll continue

1216
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: uh every Sunday after that until the season is done. Um.

1217
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: You can find me uh actor Michael Broderick on Facebook,

1218
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: and that's really the hub of everything, and everything kind

1219
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 1: of spills over from there. But um, yes, swat on,

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01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 1: I believe it's February seven, and uh who else? A

1221
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 1: couple of other things in the work works, but nothing

1222
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: nothing ready to announce yet. Oh and please please do

1223
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: thank you. I just do want to give one more

1224
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: shout to uh two vets on tv UH if you're

1225
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: interested in backing us in the month of February for

1226
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: a run Ranger run to support Gallant Few please do

1227
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: so we could use it, and so could Gallant Few

1228
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,919
Speaker 1: actually or do they have a Twitter account or Instagram? Yeah,

1229
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: it's it's uh that one. I got it all the

1230
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: same vets on TV across social media. Excellent. I think

1231
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: you'll get some support from the listeners of this community.

1232
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: And uh, this has been great. I mean, as Jack said,

1233
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 1: there's there's guys in the military community who I think

1234
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: aspire to do what you're living. Yeah, and Galliant Few

1235
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: is a great cause too. If people want to get involved,

1236
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 1: they sure are. And anybody any veterans or guys who

1237
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 1: are men and women were getting ready to get out

1238
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: and just wouldn't be happy doing anything else. And you

1239
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: wanna get into the entertainment industry, do visit v m

1240
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: E connect dot org. That's Veterans and Media and Entertainment's

1241
01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 1: website v m E connect dot org and sign up

1242
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: and and see what's going on there. There might be

1243
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: a local chapter near you. That's great. Thank you so much, Michael,

1244
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 1: really appreciate having you on today. Hey, thanks for having

1245
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: me on Guys on on Targeting on time? Right, Thank

1246
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: you man, hopefully all right, take care of fellis excellent

1247
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: appearance there from Michael Broderick. Uh, hopefully the audio sounds

1248
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 1: really clear, because he was in a studio in uh

1249
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 1: California for those wondering, and I'm gonna they recorded on

1250
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 1: there and I'm gonna try to layer it together. So

1251
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: if this sounded good, uh, that's thanks to them recording

1252
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: there and me mixing this whole thing together. Um. But

1253
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: it was cool that we could get him in studio

1254
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 1: and do that or in studio over there, and hopefully

1255
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: next time we could do something in studio here. I mean,

1256
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: there's plenty of acting and roles that go on in

1257
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 1: New York, so I wouldn't be surprised if at some

1258
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 1: point he's over here, just like we have Jeffrey right

1259
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 1: in the studio. Yeah, for sure, Jeffrey right. Actually, I

1260
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: don't want to say god offended because it would be

1261
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 1: like too harsh, but but I called him like a

1262
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: Hollywood actor and he was like, no, I think myself

1263
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: as a New York actor. So it's like two different Yeah,

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Speaker 1: two different worlds. I guess that's cool. I love his

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01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: work and on on West World. I don't know if

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01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: Brandon told you when so we had him on your

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01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 1: in here. Brandon was yeah, I wish I could have

1268
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,799
Speaker 1: met him. Yeah, but um, Brandon was on a plane

1269
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: heading to Puerto Rico and he said on the plane

1270
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: he heard this guy go, Brandon, it was Jeffrey right,

1271
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: And he was like, yeah, I'm headed to Puerto Rico.

1272
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 1: I'm going surfing with my son. I know you you

1273
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: do a little surfing. You want to come out with us?

1274
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 1: And he got to surf with Jeffrey right in Puerto Rico.

1275
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: That's funny. Yeah, so he was. He was definitely a

1276
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 1: very nice guy. Of course, we got the blowback from

1277
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: some listeners on Brandon's Instagram that were like, Brandon, this

1278
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: guy's a communist. Why would he added on he's a

1279
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: big like you know, Hillary supporter. Never, I was at

1280
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 1: a like a rally um for the Syrian Kurds, this

1281
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: Defend Java rally square where Gloria Steinem was a speaker.

1282
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: What was it like? Because you didn't get to like

1283
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: video footage jury, I mean I took a few pictures.

1284
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,560
Speaker 1: I mean I wasn't there for Gloria Steinem. I was

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01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: there because it was to support the Kurds. Um it was.

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01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: I mean it was a small group. I mean I

1287
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: wish they could have rallied more people together. Um. But

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01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: Gloria Steinhum just came out and talked a little bit

1289
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 1: about I don't know what she was really I'm not

1290
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: sure she knows that much about Syria, but I mean,

1291
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: I suppose her heart was in the right place. And

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01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: um it was basically, you know, talking about women's rights

1293
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 1: and how the Kurds have made these like amazing advancements

1294
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 1: with women's rights in the Middle East. Um and uh.

1295
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: And of course they would like the United States to

1296
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 1: stick around a little bit longer until the situation stabilizes

1297
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 1: because they don't want to get invaded by the Turks

1298
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: like Afron already did. Um. So we'll see how that

1299
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 1: pans out. But anyway, I wrote a short article about

1300
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: going to that rally. UM. I think it's called um

1301
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 1: while America, While America moves on the Curtish struggle in

1302
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 1: Syria continues something like that, and went out yesterday. Yeah,

1303
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: so go to the News rep dot com. I'm gonna

1304
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: have to shoot a text over to Michael Flitz and

1305
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 1: say we had your body on because uh, we haven't

1306
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:14,560
Speaker 1: had him on in a while. But ye, school, I

1307
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: didn't know that the connection was there. I just randomly

1308
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 1: brought up Michael because he's who I think of when

1309
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 1: I think of Gallant Few and we're actually really Run

1310
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 1: Ranger Run and Karl Monger, and you know, he's the

1311
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 1: guy that I know involved in all that. Yeah. Yeah,

1312
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 1: we should have both of those guys, both Carl and

1313
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: Michael on again. Uh, sometime in the near future. Yeah,

1314
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,839
Speaker 1: I'll definitely reach out to them. I mean, we recently

1315
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 1: did an episode on uh, you know, not to bring

1316
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: the mood down here, but the veteran suicide stuff with Alex.

1317
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,719
Speaker 1: And Alex also, I saw wrote UM just this past

1318
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: week that Marine Corps suicides are at an all time

1319
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: high right now. It's shitty. Yeah, it's really really we

1320
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 1: haven't figured out how to grapple with it exactly. Yeah,

1321
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely a problem that needs to be addressed.

1322
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:00,080
Speaker 1: And I saw Alex wrote a pretty passionate tweet in

1323
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: response to something, um Donald Trump said the other week

1324
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 1: about you know, how great the military is doing and veterans,

1325
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 1: and you know, Alex was like, before you, um, you know,

1326
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: start boasting about all this stuff, like, let's address the

1327
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 1: issue of military suicide. You know, I have guys that

1328
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: I know, dying every few months, and something needs to

1329
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: be done about this. It's nuts, you know, I want

1330
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: to Um. I know I've talked about this before. Um,

1331
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 1: but I went to a memorial for a former teammate

1332
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:32,799
Speaker 1: of mine who committed suicide, and while I was there,

1333
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 1: I met this other gentleman, also in the military, who

1334
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 1: was my friends my teammates best man at his wedding

1335
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: and a Paul bearer at his funeral. And uh, and

1336
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: that gentleman died unexpectedly about a year later. I don't

1337
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 1: know the story behind it. That's why I'm not gonna

1338
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 1: say his name here. But I mean, Jesus Christ, I mean,

1339
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 1: it just keeps happening and happening. I really do respect

1340
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 1: the fact there's guys like Karl Monger out there who say,

1341
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 1: give me a call if you're in that place. Um,

1342
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: you know, we need to have those types of people. UM. Yeah.

1343
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 1: It's something that we talked about on this show a

1344
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: lot because it's it's an important issue and uh, there

1345
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 1: are no easy solutions. But that's why I like to

1346
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 1: have people on, like how we had Peter Gidrion talking

1347
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: about the creative thing, whether you're pro or con I

1348
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: want to hear about other alternatives out there that the

1349
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: news media is not really talking about. Yeah. Man, there

1350
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,679
Speaker 1: are no easy answers. You know. It's like I've said

1351
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 1: in the past. I mean, if you're hurting out there, um,

1352
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: you need to go and seek some kind of treatment.

1353
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 1: Like that's the real solution to it. Um. You know.

1354
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: And in the civilian world, you need to fight just

1355
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: as hard as you did while you were in the military.

1356
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 1: For in this case, you know, you need to fight

1357
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 1: for your own life. Um, in your own future. You

1358
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 1: need to create a life for yourself outside the military.

1359
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 1: And that's just as difficult as going through ranger school.

1360
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 1: Sometime in some ways it's more difficult. Yeah. And I

1361
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 1: would say read pieces like Michael Schlitz Mike switz is

1362
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 1: that he wrote for UM, if I remember correctly, Ranger Up.

1363
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 1: He wrote a piece about his experience going through these surgeries.

1364
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 1: I'm halfway through Carmen Genteel's book and he talks about

1365
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: in uh New York just uh, you know, one point saying,

1366
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 1: I wish this guy would have killed me. And you know,

1367
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 1: he went through a lot of crap to and not

1368
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: not a veteran but experienced worse than a lot of veterans.

1369
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: And I'm loving this book so far. I know I'm

1370
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 1: taking my time with it. I just haven't had a

1371
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 1: time to like read as much as usual, but um,

1372
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 1: this is I have to. You know, I keep plugging

1373
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 1: the book, I feel like every two episodes. But it's

1374
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 1: a brutally honest book. I mean, he talks about cheating

1375
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 1: on his fiance, his fiance cheating on him, and I

1376
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: feel I feel like he could have just written a

1377
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:46,759
Speaker 1: book about look at how awesome I am. I escaped

1378
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: death and had this great recovery, and like, no, he's

1379
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: talking about the opioids healing story. You know, yeah, he's

1380
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 1: positive thinking. He's talking about the opioids and all that.

1381
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: And you know, like I said, his fiance at the

1382
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 1: time writing him an email, you know, I've been cheating

1383
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 1: on you with some other guy, and you're a scumbag,

1384
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, him cheating on her right after seeing her

1385
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 1: after the injury, and kind of making excuses in his

1386
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: head of like, oh, well, I'm on all this medication.

1387
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: There's any time I'm allowed to do something like this,

1388
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 1: it's now, and then kind of saying like, look, I'm

1389
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm a scumbag. There's no there's no hiding the fact

1390
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,640
Speaker 1: that I just cheated on my fiance. Yeah. You know,

1391
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: those like uplifting, empowering stories were kind of force fed

1392
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: all the time. They don't really do anything for me personally,

1393
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 1: because it's like real life. Real life is painful. Well,

1394
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 1: it's very painful, and you have to you know, pulling

1395
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: yourself through it is painful. I've actually never heard this

1396
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 1: quote before reading this book, but I think you would

1397
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 1: love this quote, and I totally agree with this. This

1398
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 1: is what he starts the book with, this very short

1399
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:56,600
Speaker 1: but profound quote from George Orwell, autobiography is only to

1400
01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 1: be trusted when it reveals something disgraceful. Yeah, it's true.

1401
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 1: I mean I've had this experience, you know, right in

1402
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 1: my own book recently, and you know, it definitely talks

1403
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: about the highs and the lows, and it's not all

1404
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 1: flag waving or depicting my certainly not depicting myself as

1405
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 1: some sort of Captain America. Um. And you know, when

1406
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 1: I wrote that book, I thought about that, like, I

1407
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 1: want this to be a book that people can actually

1408
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: like learn something from, especially somebody who was in my

1409
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 1: shoes when I was like eighteen years old and I

1410
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: was gonna about to join the military. Like I wanted

1411
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: it to be a book that it's not just about

1412
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 1: me waving the flag and talking about how great I am,

1413
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,600
Speaker 1: but it's something like you can read about the mistakes

1414
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 1: I made and be like whoa, Okay, that's what I

1415
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 1: want to avoid. Um, so that the book actually has

1416
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 1: some content and it's actually has something meaningful. Because if

1417
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 1: you just talk about how awesome you are and you're

1418
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 1: just I mean, well, first off, you're just looking in

1419
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:58,879
Speaker 1: the mirror jerking yourself off. Uh, But beyond that, there's

1420
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 1: nothing there. There's no takeaways from the book, Like you're

1421
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 1: not actually learning anything. So what's the fucking point, you know,

1422
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 1: other other than like a masturbatory, fucking fantasy of yourself. Yeah,

1423
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm very we weary of those types of books. Um.

1424
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 1: On the other hand, there's there's people who probably reveal

1425
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 1: too much and they regret it. UM. SUREC recent story

1426
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: I heard, you know, not related to anyone on this

1427
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 1: show or Special Ops. But I did read Rex Brown

1428
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 1: from Pantera's book, and throughout the book he talks about

1429
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: like what a scumbag phil On Salma was at times

1430
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: and what a dirt bag Vinnie Paul was at times,

1431
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 1: and from what I've heard him giving interviews, who was

1432
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 1: on Jamie Joster from Hate Hate Reads podcast, and Jamie

1433
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 1: hinted at that he feels like he almost regrets writing

1434
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 1: parts of that in the book, you know, And now

1435
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 1: Vinnie Paul has gone, and that book is going to

1436
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: be in print from you know, forever for people to

1437
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 1: hear your dislike for the guy. And I'm sure, I'm

1438
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 1: sure there were, you know, great times they didn't put

1439
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: in there. And I've thought about that very carefully when

1440
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: I was writing a book, because the book it is

1441
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 1: a memoir, and yeah, it is kind of like a

1442
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 1: douchey story you're writing about yourself, I mean, or it

1443
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 1: feels that way in a sense. And I thought about

1444
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:15,600
Speaker 1: that very carefully because it's like, I have this opportunity,

1445
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 1: I don't really want to use it to like just

1446
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:22,560
Speaker 1: drop dime on my teammates are friends of mine, um,

1447
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, especially like if you tell an embarrassing story

1448
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 1: about like a friend of yours, like you went out

1449
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 1: and got drunk, you know, when you were young soldiers,

1450
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 1: as we tend to do, and you write if you

1451
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:35,839
Speaker 1: write about that. UM, that is the one public depiction

1452
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 1: of that guy is him drunk off his ask doing

1453
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: something totally stupid, doing naked cannonballs into a public swimming

1454
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 1: pool or whatever it was, and banging hooker. I'm sure, yeah,

1455
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: I mean all kinds of craziness. That's that's the sole

1456
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 1: public that's the sole public depiction of that person. UM

1457
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 1: that will come to um encompass or represent that person's

1458
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 1: entire life when they maybe they had a twenty year

1459
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: military career of honorable service, but this one little event

1460
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 1: is what will come to define their service publicly. And

1461
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do that, so UM, I try

1462
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 1: to limit the embarrassing stories more to myself. Yeah, and

1463
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 1: if I feel that the story is some there's some

1464
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 1: sort of like narrative lesson or there's something that has

1465
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 1: to be told UM that I can't gloss over. UM,

1466
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: I typically don't name the person. UM. I would feel

1467
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 1: much more comfortable revealing UM embarrassing aspects of myself than

1468
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 1: of other people, because also, you never know what the

1469
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 1: future holds. I've you know what's crazy. This has happened

1470
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 1: to me once before. I got a phone call from

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Speaker 1: a kid who used to like give me crap in

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Speaker 1: high school. I had not in contact for this person

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Speaker 1: for years. Got a call from out of the blue.

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01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,480
Speaker 1: I have no idea why. I mean, I could speculate

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01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 1: it on it, but he was just like, hey, hey man,

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Speaker 1: sorry for you know, not being a good person back then,

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01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: and met a better time in my life. And it

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01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 1: makes you wonder, like, I don't know, maybe they went

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01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 1: through a or something like that. Maybe this is part

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01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: of what is it happy Gilmore? Yes, no, no, but

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Speaker 1: Billy Madison, But Billy Madison where he's like he calls

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Speaker 1: him up and apologizes to him and it's, uh, oh,

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01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 1: what's the actor's name. Oh you're Steve Steve Yeah, And

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01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 1: he reaches over and he crosses the guy's name off

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01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: his list and they put yeah, it might be something

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01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 1: like that, but so I wouldn't. I would feel pretty

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Speaker 1: terrible about myself if I wrote something bad about someone

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01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 1: who wasn't nice to me. But maybe years down the

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Speaker 1: line you meet up with them. I mean, there's been

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Speaker 1: plenty of times I've met up kids I didn't like

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Speaker 1: at high school. I see them at a bar and

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01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 1: they're a great person now at different time in their life.

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Speaker 1: They're like, are you going to use that opportunity to

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Speaker 1: just like as some sort of like childish revenge because

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Speaker 1: somebody aggrieved you when you guys were like fourteen, Like yeah,

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Speaker 1: and there's like I don't know that. I think when

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Speaker 1: you write a book, you know, whatever kind of book

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Speaker 1: you're writing, and you want to have some more important

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Speaker 1: lessons or some some more meaningful narrative in it than

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Speaker 1: you know, this guy stole my Nintendo cards on the

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Speaker 1: bus when I was in first grade, which happened to me,

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01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 1: but you know, and I still remember that. But I mean,

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01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 1: there's got to be some better like life lessons or

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Speaker 1: or some better, more meaningful stories to tell when you

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01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 1: when you write a memoir than than that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Is there anyone you reached out to like, Hey, I'm

1507
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 1: gonna talk about this. You have you have a problem

1508
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 1: with it? There were a number of people on former

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01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 1: teammates who I reached out to and I sent excerpts

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Speaker 1: from the book about specific things that happened on deployments.

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Speaker 1: UM So guys who I served in range A battalion with,

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Speaker 1: um some guys who were on my O D A,

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Speaker 1: and I sent them excerpts from the book, but mostly

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01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 1: not because I was really asking them for permission. UM.

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01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 1: I was asking them for permission to use their name

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01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 1: if they wanted to be in the book, and ask

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01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 1: if they wanted to or not. Um. And I think

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01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 1: all of them said, UM, you know, go ahead, do

1519
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Speaker 1: what do what you want. And and I think I

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01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 1: just referred to them all by their first names in

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01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 1: the book. UM. But more I was sending it to

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Speaker 1: them because I wanted to make sure that I was

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Speaker 1: being factually accurate, Like am I like, am I remembering

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Speaker 1: this totally wrong? You know, of course there's gonna be

1525
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 1: different perspectives, but are my facts just completely wrong here?

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Speaker 1: And so I sent them. I sent excerpts of the

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Speaker 1: book off to a lot, uh, not a lot, but

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01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a dozen or ten different people, um,

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01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:30,799
Speaker 1: just to make sure that I wasn't remembering things completely wrong.

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Speaker 1: And UM to my surprise. Actually, I mean, when you

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Speaker 1: tell someone you're writing a book about this stuff, you

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01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 1: would understand that they get very nervous. UM. But I

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01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 1: found all of them to be completely like helpful, like

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01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 1: am willing to add additional information um or further elaborate

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01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: or contextualize something for me? Um? And all of them

1536
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 1: were kind of like, dude, it's your book right from

1537
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Speaker 1: your perspective, tell it like it is is. And you know,

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01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 1: it seems like they all kind of had the perspective of,

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Speaker 1: you know, let history be the judge. And I mean

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Speaker 1: I really admire all of them for that. That's awesome. Well,

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Speaker 1: I have the advanced copy. I will get to it

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01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 1: um once I finished Carmen's book, which I've enjoying. Definitely

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Speaker 1: So currently, I mean the switch this year and recently

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Speaker 1: and listen to one two with Roger Stone, because right

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Speaker 1: now is an interesting time. There's especially those people out there,

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Speaker 1: believe it or not, who were like I have never

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Speaker 1: heard the name of Roger Stone until this week. Understandable

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01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 1: because I mean I turned on the news. I rarely

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Speaker 1: watch TV. I don't even have cable anymore, but I

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Speaker 1: turned on just regular network news at home while Roger

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Speaker 1: Stone was arrested that morning, and you know, like it

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Speaker 1: was every channel they interrupted the prices right to show

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Speaker 1: you Roger Stone being arrested and you know, courtroom and

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Speaker 1: and you know him coming out with the V for victory.

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01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 1: We should be so lucky that you know they interrupt

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Speaker 1: the prices right for your arrest. I mean Jesus, I

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01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 1: mean that rarely happens, right this Roger that's like for

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01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 1: that's like nine eleven. You know they interrupted, you know,

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01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 1: you know Steve Harvey here, you know, or whatever. I don't.

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01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it could just be my perspective, but I

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01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 1: feel like it's hard to say that it's not political.

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01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 1: I I feel like this has to do it with

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01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 1: some people with taking down Trump and incrementally one by one,

1623
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 1: look at all these connections and putting it in your

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01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 1: face of politics involved, Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, putting that

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01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 1: corruption stuff out there. Uh. And the other you know,

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01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 1: big piece of news that's it's gonna get even more intense,

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01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:56,600
Speaker 1: or the insane amount of Democrats announcing their run for

1628
01:27:56,600 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 1: the presidents ramping up. You got Kamala Harris, Bernie Sanders,

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01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 1: Hillary Quintin possibly my life. I mean, she just she's

1630
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 1: just isn't gonna just wait until who comes to president?

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01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 1: Just go away? Uh? And Elizabeth Warren of course. And

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01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 1: then the other guy that you have as the independent

1633
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:22,680
Speaker 1: is the CEO of Starbucks, which Howard Schultz. Is that

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01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 1: that the name? I'm not sure, trying to let me

1635
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 1: make sure I have that right. And Trump got all

1636
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:31,520
Speaker 1: scared and sent out some tweets about it of Starbucks,

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01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 1: see yeah, yeah, saying like he doesn't have the guts. Uh,

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01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 1: so he's Yeah, the current CEO is Kevin Johnson. The

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01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 1: former CEO who's running is Howard Schultz. Believe it or not,

1640
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to my Twitter feed and say, uh,

1641
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 1: some listeners were not happy at me about me with

1642
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 1: this somewhere that I do have to say giving credit

1643
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 1: where credit is due. I don't normally agree with Bill Maher,

1644
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 1: but I agree with Bill Maher wrote here. He wrote,

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01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,679
Speaker 1: really the coffee guy wants to be president? Just because

1646
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 1: you had one profitable insight people overpay for coffee doesn't

1647
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 1: mean you can run the world. The government is a

1648
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 1: different animal. Can we please get a pro in there?

1649
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Speaker 1: I certainly agree, And although honestly I very well may

1650
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Speaker 1: vote for Trump just because I don't like the alternative

1651
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: so much, I'm not happy with this new um Trump

1652
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Speaker 1: effect or whatever you want to call it, putting people

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Speaker 1: completely unqualified into office. And you know, writing that's one

1654
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Speaker 1: of our listeners was tweeting at me. You know, well,

1655
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 1: Barack Obama started that trend, and I do have to

1656
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,759
Speaker 1: disagree and that, yes, Barack Obama was far less qualified

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Speaker 1: than previous presidents, but he served in state government. He

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Speaker 1: served for a very short time in you know, US

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Speaker 1: as a one term, you know, senator, and I'm aware

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Speaker 1: he voted president most of those times, but to me,

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Speaker 1: it would be a very different ballgame if Trump held

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01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 1: some position prior to being president. It's like, that's why

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01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 1: I say, you can't the people who were like, well,

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Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan was an actor. Yeah, Ronald Reagan did a

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01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: lot before he became president. There's this underlying attitude that

1666
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 1: or this this narrative that gets sold to us that

1667
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 1: like being a business CEO or running a business has

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Speaker 1: some correlation to running the United States fucking government, and

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Speaker 1: it doesn't. I mean, they're two wildly different animals. The

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Speaker 1: United States government doesn't run on a profit incentive. You're

1671
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:25,640
Speaker 1: dealing with public goods, you're dealing with indivisible assets. Uh.

1672
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 1: It's just totally different than the private sector. But people

1673
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 1: keep talking to us and telling us that government should

1674
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 1: run like a business. Like it can't run like a business.

1675
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 1: And if you say it should run like a business,

1676
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 1: I think you fundamentally don't understand what our government is.

1677
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 1: And personally, I actually would like to see more veterans

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01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 1: and business owners in government, but I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: think you go from even though this is what happened.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you should go from business owner to president,

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01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 1: go from business owner to congressman to governor, and then

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01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 1: work your way up. I have I think that that's

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Speaker 1: the way to do it. I mean, for example, I

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01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 1: really do not like the man, but our our former

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Speaker 1: UM mayor, Michael Bloomberg, I do think is qualified in

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01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 1: going from business owner to mayor. You know, if he

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01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 1: wants to run, I would never say he's he's not qualified.

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01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 1: If Trump went from CEO to mayor or something, I

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01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 1: would feel very different. But then again, I don't think

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Speaker 1: New York would have elected Donald Trump for anything. No

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01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 1: New Yorkers never would have elected Trump for anything, because

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01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 1: we we knew him too well. We knew the guy

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01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 1: was full of ship decades ago, I really, and New

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01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 1: Yorkers just used to seeing his face and everywhere money. Though,

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01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 1: if you talk to people who are not from New York,

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01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 1: they think Donald Trump changed the skyline of New York City,

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01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 1: Like they seriously think that. It's like what, like this

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01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:53,400
Speaker 1: guy was a minor player at best in New York

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01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 1: City real estate. I mean he has he built one building,

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01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't know. It's just there's other

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01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 1: buildings all know, Like, for example, though, Fred Trump, you

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01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 1: know my mom grew up in Trump Village. There's all

1703
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 1: that stuff in Brooklyn, there's this, there's some stuff in Queens.

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01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 1: But I know what you mean. You know, it's not

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01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:12,800
Speaker 1: like Trump in the World Trade Center or something. Yeah,

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01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 1: I mean in in conversations about New York City real estate,

1707
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 1: like Donald Trump is not a player, Like his name

1708
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 1: doesn't even come up. And Michael Bloomberg is who Bloomberg is,

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01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 1: but he's way belder the radar. Oh, speaking of Bloomberg,

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01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,040
Speaker 1: I could I you know what, I'm gonna play something.

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01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:32,640
Speaker 1: I thought it was funny for you guys. This go

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01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 1: back to Twitter here. Sorry that I keep referring to

1713
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 1: Twitter here, but it is what it is. Um. I

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01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 1: thought this was funny if I could find it. So,

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01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw Dan Crenshaw, who speaks

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01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 1: great Spanish, put out this address. Ah, really, I didn't

1717
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 1: know he was a Spanish speaker, and he sounds great.

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01:32:51,400 --> 01:33:02,799
Speaker 1: Definitely fluided trumps some So anyway you get the idea.

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01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 1: He he sounds like honestly he could be Spanish. Yeah yeah,

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01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 1: well good for him. So it's important when you're a

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01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 1: politician in Texas too. I agree, and so I was

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01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 1: comparing that to you. Do you remember this, Michael Bloomberg.

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01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 1: We'll take some questions, but first let me just try

1724
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 1: to summarize for our Spanish speaking audience plus vehiculos, cafe

1725
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 1: bernados and lacatante la trement and know us difficult different

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01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 1: cult like at that point, get some fence. Sounds like

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01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 1: a New York bistro Delhi owner or something trying to

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01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 1: speak in Spanish when the construction workers come to order,

1729
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 1: you know, a fucking filafel or something. Yeah, I don't

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01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 1: think that it earns you any you know, points with

1731
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 1: Latinos to go out there, like I think he would

1732
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 1: have been better off having a member of his administration

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01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 1: who speaks fluent span. It's like when I try to

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01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:57,640
Speaker 1: speak Italian, I sound like Brad Pitt And what's that

1735
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 1: movie where uh inglorious bastards? Where is there? Like, because

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01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:05,680
Speaker 1: like they're pretending to be Italians and infiltrate this like

1737
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 1: Nazi ball and he's like air veard eric Chie, that's alright,

1738
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:14,640
Speaker 1: sound but I try to speak Italian? All right? Well,

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01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 1: I guess that that about sums up anything. From you

1740
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 1: or no, no, that's it. Um, Well, I am. I

1741
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 1: did work on a update to a previous UH story

1742
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 1: I wrote. Um. You know, I wrote about a year

1743
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 1: ago UH story called Dick Pick six, which was about

1744
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 1: a bunch of drama unfolding and Seventh Special Forces Group

1745
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 1: kind of a sexual blackmail network that ensnared a bunch

1746
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 1: of high ranking officers and n c O s and UH.

1747
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 1: The Army Times just did a follow up to it

1748
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 1: yesterday and they got um the Seventh Group secretary who

1749
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 1: is involved in a lot of it. Um, they got

1750
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:52,720
Speaker 1: her on the record. I reached out to her. She

1751
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 1: didn't want to talk to me at the time, which

1752
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 1: you know is her decision of course and h but

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01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 1: she spoke to the Army Times. So UM, I went

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01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:02,320
Speaker 1: back and I kind of did like an update to

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01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 1: the article UM that I had written a year ago,

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01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 1: including some of the new information from the Army Times

1757
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 1: and some other information that I've been given and provided

1758
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 1: over the last year or so. UM. So that article

1759
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 1: will probably be up by the time people hear this podcast.

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01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 1: Excellent UM, And the next episode, as promised, we will

1761
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 1: get a shot show recap from load Out writer Jen's

1762
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of what Jen's writes under. He

1763
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,560
Speaker 1: has a weird name that he writes under on the website.

1764
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 1: But he'll be on to talk about that. And a

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01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 1: friend of yours Douglas. Yeah, Doug is a former PJ

1766
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 1: and now he um he will tell us in depth

1767
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 1: what he does. Um. But he's like highly qualified with

1768
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 1: like all the sports physiology and all that kind of stuff. Um.

1769
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 1: And his company is called Resilient UM and he will

1770
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 1: tell us all about it for sure, and he'll be

1771
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 1: in studio with us. Yeah, which is great, great because

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01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of pjs on. We've had

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01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:01,639
Speaker 1: on the K of course, but I think it's still

1774
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:05,800
Speaker 1: banging on Twitter. No, No, he's back, he's back. Okay, Okay.

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01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 1: Who else have we had on? We've had We've had

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01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:11,439
Speaker 1: a handful of Air Force guys. I mean Doug Reardon

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01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 1: his former Air Force, Mike Lampy his former Air Force. Yeah.

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01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 1: Uh well Doug is like super pt stud um. I

1779
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 1: met him when we were both going to Colombia. Uh so, yeah,

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01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:25,639
Speaker 1: he'll be a great guest. But he's not a part

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01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 1: of the wolke Vets of Colombia. No, he's he's a

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01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 1: very reasonable young man. I'm sure he will we can

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01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 1: discuss some of that. All right, awesome extra checking out

1784
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 1: as always guys, and uh we'll be back with another

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01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 1: episode going up on Friday. You've been listening to self

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01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 1: Rep Radio. New episodes up every Wednesday and Friday. Follow

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