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Everybody can't believe only six 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:14.800 seven months in it, like it's crazy. 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:16.800 That's like the common theme, like what really? 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:19.880 Yeah, before we do anything, we gotta give a shout 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:23.280 to the city of Atlanta. If you are familiar with 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:24.960 the podcast, you know we're on tour right now. We're 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:27.160 hitting all of our major markets and just doing networking 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:29.520 events and meet and greet. So we just came back 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:33.720 from Atlanta literally and yeah, Atlanta was crazy. Atlanta was crazy. 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:36.319 You know, everybody came out the city shows support, We 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:38.760 met good people. We got to give a shout out 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.319 to Digital Brands Sure what is z at the end? 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:44.880 Then the process of help rebranding and redoing our website, 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:47.840 so we definitely gotta give a major shout out to them, 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:52.360 and shout out to Jazz Jackson. It's simply Jackson Instagram 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:55.280 from shot shot. She showed us major love out in 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:58.400 Atlanta and she's actually the connected between Digital Brands, So 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:01.560 stop by that website Digital Brands Thatt biz what is 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:03.960 he at the end and showed him some love because 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.000 those guys are amazing, they do great work. But we 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:11.120 have a very special guest here today Sean Bullert, who 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.480 his story is actually I was telling Troy like. He 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:16.120 actually fits all of the criteria of our website, of 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:20.000 our podcast. The podcast is the backstories of business, sports, 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:24.040 and entertainment, financial, so he does all three. He fits 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:25.640 all three, right, I'll give a quick over you. So 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:27.440 he used to be a professional athlete, played for the 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:31.640 Chargers on the NFL, and he's a real estate developer. 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:36.520 He is a serial entrepreneur. He has skincare line. He 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:39.839 has a bunch of stuff we're gonna talk about. And 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:48.120 he also was the star of a TV show, star 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.720 Ward TV show kind of like The Bachelor on on 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:51.440 on we TV. 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:55.080 So they were voted as the first African American Bachelor, 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:56.960 the first African Bachelor. 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:00.200 So that's that's the lion king of Bachelor in the 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.120 sports entertainment right down there. So first and foremost, thank you, 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:04.280 thank you for joining us. 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:06.280 No, man, it's a real pleasure of being here. 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.360 You know. I love you guys show. And then I. 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:11.640 Think I reached out to you. Yeah, I was like, 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:13.560 I was like, yo, brod need to be on your 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:15.079 what's up? 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:15.639 You know? 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.840 And uh, now it's an honor being amongst greatness. Man, 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:23.320 what you guys are doing? You don't you shouldn't be 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:26.400 surprised that you are blowing up this fast. I mean, 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.880 you guys are going to have you guys are going 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.560 to be on like TV TV, like one day. 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:33.240 I see it, you know what I'm saying. 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:36.520 Absolutely, and and even if they don't see it, you 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.200 guys saw it yourself. So I'm just honored to be here, 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:40.480 and you know, let's get it. 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:42.480 And I appreciate you. I appreciate you. So let's jump 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.440 right into it. Okay. So Sean, as I said, he 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.320 is from Philly and he went to Temple University, Shout 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.640 the Temple, Shout the Philly, and he was fortunate enough 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:52.800 to make it to the NFL. Right. So, the interesting 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.000 thing because we interviewed the NFL player before we interview 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:57.320 the NFL agent, and we got a lot of relationships 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.720 with a lot of guys in the league. But a 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:01.400 lot of guys, especially in the league, they reach out 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.320 to me and you know, they're interested in business and 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:06.960 interested in financial literacy, but it's not really taught to them, 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.120 right because especially being a star athletes your whole life, 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.760 you know, you're you're not really focused on business per se. 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.000 You're focused on your sport, right, You know, it takes 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.160 a lot to become a professional athlete, and even when 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:18.480 you get in the league, a lot of times, even 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:21.000 with a lot of financial advisors, it's more so just 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:21.760 trust my word. 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:23.400 Somebody else is handling the business. 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.440 Yeah, but you actually you actually brought your first property 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:28.960 while you were still in college, right, yeah? So all right? 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.280 What made you want to invest in real estate when 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.520 you wasn't even you didn't even graduate from college. And 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.120 how did you actually invest in real estate? I'm assuming 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.040 your income was lower being a college student, Like, howd 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:39.560 that work out? 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:40.240 Right? Right? 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:46.200 So in two thousand and three, the reason I invested 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.280 in it will even made me start thinking about real estates. 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:50.719 I wasn't even thinking about real estate. I was just 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:54.840 thinking about ball and getting on scholarship. Because I walked 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:56.840 on the temple, I had to earn everything that I've 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:00.799 always had. And once I was so, I was bawling 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:02.600 and I was going to get on the full scholarship 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.520 because I was a college dropout. Actually I didn't score 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.600 over eight hundred on my SATs. You get five hundreds 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:12.080 for signing your name, but I was I was a 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:17.120 three way athlete in Catholic school all American. I fell 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:19.200 asleep on messages. I didn't even take it serious. I 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:22.040 didn't know it was that serious. And then I couldn't 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.000 even get into the schools that I wanted to get into. 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.960 So once that happened, I had to go. I went 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:32.080 to Johnson C. Smith in North Carolina, all black school, 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:35.400 you know, to get my grades up. I went down there. 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.240 I actually was hanging with the wrong crowd. 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:39.720 I got stabbed five. 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:42.960 Times, and yeah, you know, fighting like we had like 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.400 little gangs in college. Just like bro, like, just go 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:47.920 to school, like I'm looking back, like y'oll, you know 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.200 what I mean, Just go to school and get your degree. 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:54.480 I went back, uh you know, I was that was 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.080 the fall of ninety nine. I went back, you know, 0:05:57.200 --> 0:06:00.840 the spring of two thousand and just to show like, look, man, 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.000 this ain't gonna beat me or whatever, like I'm not 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.440 scared to go back. And then after that it was like, 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:07.680 you know what, I always wanted to be better than 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:11.080 what I was, So than this, I always should have 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:12.279 been like at the bigger universities. 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.840 I went back home to Temple. Couldn't get in the Temple. 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:19.520 The next thing I know, I'm out of school. So 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:24.480 I'm working at a NCO Financial, which is a bill 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.559 collecting agency, and I swear to God, like this place 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:31.000 was like full of like X cons and strippers, you 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:32.960 know what I mean. And when you and when you 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.960 and when you think about it, that's who got the 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.760 gift the gap, X cons hustles and strippers, you know 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:40.200 what I mean, to get that paper out of you 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:41.960 know what I mean, you pay your bills or whatever. 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:45.080 And I remember and there was a dude named like Bill. 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.360 It was like this white gay guy, but he was 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:50.000 like always in like Polo Purple label. 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:51.160 He was one of the executives. 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:54.480 You know, they had the the executives parking spots with 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.560 the ferraris and the porches was or whatever. And then 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:00.360 you saw a lot of people that, like I said, 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.040 needed second chances or you know, if it was if 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.040 there was dancers, they still needed like a way of 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:08.000 shore a W two. So they worked there and they 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:11.480 was hustling, and I actually learned a how the gifted 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:15.200 gab and hustle being around that sector. After a while, 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.400 I started hustling myself a little bit, you know what 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.560 I'm saying. And we had like a park or whatever 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.119 that we we used to like sell pounds of weed 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.600 and all that type of stuff, and I started making 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:29.560 a little bit of money. But like like anything else, 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:33.600 like with with with women, you know, they put they 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:37.560 bring out the the and they influenced us. And I 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.360 remember my girlfriend at the time in college. It was 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:42.760 he used to play basketball for Temple, and we were 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:44.480 sitting on her couch and she was like, yeah, he 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.000 always he had just got picked up by the Sixers. 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:49.400 He was trying to make the team, and she was like, 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.680 he always first for me in my such and such class, 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.840 And that just put a fire under me, like you 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.000 used to be that, You used to be the athlete, 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.400 and now you know, you dropped out and you just 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.440 that and the third. At that moment, I made my 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:07.520 decision to go back to school and become what I 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:12.360 should have been, you know, a Division one athlete. And 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:17.120 I got back into Temple on like a preliminary basis 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:20.880 to prove like like basic classes on probation to get 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:24.000 back into you know, I got the noted actually, and 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:27.720 by the grace of God, a woman that went to 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.520 my church was in the emissions office, pulled some strings 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:34.080 and got me in. Like you need angels, you know, 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.240 some people say, look, some people say blessed. I think 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:39.560 it's like those two correlating artists. They wanted the same 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:43.240 but the two different things. And you know, and I 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:47.640 got in, and I made the team, and you know, 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.720 obviously became a full scholarship athlete. 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:52.240 Tragedy happens. 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.640 I break my femur playing West Virginia. 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.280 It was a dirty play by the fullback or whatever. 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.559 And next thing, you know, I might even be playing 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:06.559 football again. At that time, I realized me always weighing 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:10.679 the options. Football isn't forever, and I need if I'm 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:12.520 going to be rich or wealthy, I need something that's 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.679 going to make me rich or wealthy. And a friend 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.560 of mine put a bug in my ear along with 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.560 about real estate. I didn't really understand at the time, 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.480 but my dad was a former he was a construction guy, 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.080 so I kind of understood it, but not really. And 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:29.320 I read a book that I tell everybody to read, 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:32.520 Rich Dad, Poor Dad, and that Robert Kiyosaki, I was 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:36.360 your book to right. That got my wheels turning on 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:40.160 looking at economics and real estate differently because we don't, 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.400 you know, like you guys, said Rasha and Troy we 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.960 don't really self taught. We don't really hear about real 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:47.920 estate in the hood and wealth building and things of 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:48.240 that sort. 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:50.880 Because even at Temple you weren't studying anything that had 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:51.559 to do with real estate. 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.280 I wasn't studying nothing, man. I was studying girls in football. 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:56.880 That's what I was studying, you know what I'm saying, 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:59.720 and plays and how to take your head off you 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.480 can't across the middle. That's that was my thing. And 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:08.080 and music, of course, But other than that. Once I 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:15.520 started looking into that in two thousand and four, you know, I, 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:19.880 once I came back from my injury started to play 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:24.439 football again, I was I started looking at real estate 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:29.560 and learning and I went to a a conference called 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:33.520 National Grant Conference. And I tell people this my stories 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.760 listening to the little details because the whole way I'm learning. 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.000 But I haven't pulled the trigger yet. And I think 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.480 a lot of especially the day with the microwave error, 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:44.960 we want that instant gratification. I started thinking about real 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:46.720 estate in two thousand and three, but I didn't really 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:48.720 pull the trigger in two thousand and five. But for 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.319 those two years, I'm learning. So I went to a 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:55.400 place called NCO find not NC National Grant Conference. 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:56.679 And they went from and every. 0:10:56.640 --> 0:11:00.200 Everybody has people people like this. They got hgt be 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:02.319 people that used to be on HTTV. Even now they 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:06.160 just go conference and conference what you call it? Even 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:11.199 does that on the breakfast club now, Envy and starting 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:14.160 to do that, you know what I'm saying. I shout 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:17.120 out to him for doing that. I definitely should be 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:21.480 one of the guest speakers. But like, and they would 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:25.400 tell you enough that actually they would drop some free 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:29.040 drunk gems. But then up to that point then they'd 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:30.680 be like, all right, if you want more, now you 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:32.719 got to give us a thousand dollars to sign up. 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:35.440 And I would. 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.880 I waited, and I went and I went to one 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:40.800 of the things. I learned some stuff, and they was like, 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:43.120 give me a thousand dollars. At that point in time, 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.280 what happens, seventy percent of the room always walks out, right. 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:48.199 I was one of the ones that stayed. But I'm 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.160 twenty years old. I had no money, like, you know, 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.439 a thousand bucks to give y'all. So I went home 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:54.440 asked my parents. They said, boy, you crazy, you better 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.640 go ahead finish college. So what I did as soon 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:00.280 as I went on scholarship. I took out out a 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:06.760 loan for a student loan for ten thousand dollars, and 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.800 that ten grand was a refund check because I'm on 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:13.880 full scholarship. And I took one thousand from that ten 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:15.360 and gave it to that. 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:17.800 To that conference. 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:20.760 And from that conference, I learned you got a little booklet, 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.280 and I learned something called a two or three k loan, 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:26.040 and that two or three K loan I mentioned ye 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:29.000 to mention that episode. And back in those days, which 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:31.640 was the good old days before people messed up the 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:33.839 economy in twenty eight and nine, you can do a 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:37.800 stated stated stated income, stated income stated, and I just 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:42.760 stated income. But it's a great thing if you got 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:44.959 du share responsibility and you. 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:45.959 Want to do the right thing. 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.040 What's your thing? But you know ninety percent of people don't. 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:50.760 Man you make you make the money. You won't go 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:52.679 out by Bentley or you won't get into the TV. 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.960 All my boys on the team, they was buying Jordan's 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.319 with their little per diemed from like the checks when 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.120 we would go play, and I was stacking mind. 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:02.520 You know. 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:04.880 Instead of living in the dorms, I lived at home 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:08.800 with my mom with my mom, and I wrote, I 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.240 wrote a lease from my mom to me as if 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:14.560 my mom was renting the room in my own house, 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:16.880 and made temple in Temple. 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:18.640 The scholarship money that gave the scholarship. 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:19.880 Money gave me the scholarship money. 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.000 So if anybody's not familiar, I interject because I used 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:23.880 to play. I went to the University of Hawaii. So 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:27.760 similar situation where you have on campus housing for athletes 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:29.760 and you have off campus housing. So a lot of 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:31.960 schools they kind of forced you to live on campus. 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.120 But some schools, like when I was in Hawaii, what 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:36.439 they did was they gave us the check for housing 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.360 and then we get apartments off campus. So the check 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.640 was like six thousand dollars. Right, then let's say your 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.080 apartment is three thousand. Now you got a difference of 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:47.120 three thousand dollars, so you can just splurge on Jordan's 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:49.760 or you can. But you was actually smart because you 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:51.640 kept all the money because she was living at home. 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:53.840 I was living at home. That's pretty responsible. Even like 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:54.720 the student loan. 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:55.960 Thing, like I know guys have done that, Like yo, 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:57.320 I'm gonna take out the student loan for more than 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:58.040 I really need. 0:13:58.240 --> 0:13:59.560 And I'm gonna use it for something else. 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.760 But like exactly like you invested in your future, invested 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:06.040 in my future. And so I hope people listening just 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.280 in this world. To just get successful, man, you just 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.920 got to think outside the box and understand that everything 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:15.319 is possible and everything is like chess. 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:16.559 This is it's like a game. 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.920 So when I was when I wrote that, when I 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:23.040 wrote that, and understand, I hate people that say, oh 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.280 I can't or no, or they always got like the 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.160 first thing, well this ain't gonna work. How you know 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:30.840 it ain't gonna work. I told the university I'm living 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.520 at home. I had at least my mom wrote it 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.440 five hundred a month for the room. Hey man, you 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.120 gotta take it. It might be a loophole, but you 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:42.400 gotta take it right. So once I once, once, once 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:46.480 I did that, I learned the took out that ten 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:48.840 grand I had nine thousand left. I had nine thousand 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.800 left over, and uh I put that down on my 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:55.520 first duplex. Yeah, and it was. It was a doozy, man. 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:55.920 It was. 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.640 It looked like you know, bombs from Bad Dad. You know, 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:00.080 it was. 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:01.040 It was huge though. 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:04.840 It was like three thousand square feet and I fixed 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.360 it up. I ran into some problems with the builder. 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:10.560 You know, I had a pastor. He was a he's 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:12.720 a pastor at a church, and but he was he 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.600 was had his own construction company called Kingdom Builders. And 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:17.640 I was like, ain't no way in hell, man, I'm 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.360 gonna get jipp by a pastor. And I got jip by. 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:22.760 I ain't know what the hell he was doing. I 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:26.280 remember walking in. This was the day that And this 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.560 is fast forward two thousand and five. I got undrafted 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:30.720 free agent from the Charges. I'm back and forth for 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:34.239 two years, you know, on and on and off, like 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:38.840 like being in limbo with the team. And in two 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:44.000 thousand and five, I'm fixing up the house while I'm 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:49.040 in school with the pastor, uh. 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:49.120 At Kingdom Builders. 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:53.160 And I walk in and I see three guys painting 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:56.360 one window, one guy on the ladder painting, one guy 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:59.680 holding the actual bucket of paint, and another and the 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:04.760 third motherfucker watching. And that's when I was like, yo, nah, nah. 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.240 And that's when I was like, you know what, I 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.240 don't need nobody. I'm gonna start running my own job. 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:13.080 So I random brands their own job. I'm training to 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:16.560 make it to the league. I get an internship with 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:20.320 a real estate developer in Philadelphia, and at that point 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.560 this goes to the point I was we were talking 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:27.120 about earlier, you know, Rashid Is, I saw it. I 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:29.800 saw what I wanted to do because he was right 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.000 in front of me. This dude was worth almost a 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:32.840 billion dollars. 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:34.160 How did you get connected with him? 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.440 So how I got connected with him? It was a 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:42.520 good question. We had a senior a senior senior seminar 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:47.560 a billionaire brunching. It was called billionaire brunching in my 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:53.120 senior seminar class, and it was Steve Klein of a 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.920 declined company who ended up being giving me the internship. 0:16:56.000 --> 0:17:00.520 Steve Corman of Corman Communities, which is Corman is huge. 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:04.360 I'm talking to billions. He got high rises down Manhattan, Philly. 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.680 Him and his sons run run the company. Now it 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.560 was a CEO of Citizens Bank at the time. And 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.000 then it was sister Mary Skellion who owns one of 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:20.280 the largest nonprofits in Philadelphia. And the night before I 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:24.800 did my research on Steve Klein and Steve Corman, so 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.760 I can walk up to him and this and Steve, 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.320 Steve Corman was like he was kind of he was like, 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:33.040 oh mega, Like dude was like too big for me 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:36.680 to even really like nothing against all due respects to 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:40.840 mister Steve Steve Klein, but Steve Corman was just like 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:42.760 I didn't really relate to him as much. But Steve 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.480 Klein was like cool, like real cool Jewish man. 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:47.399 He was. 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:51.440 He did projects like loft projects in like Maitland, Florida, 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.359 and he was he was he was huge. I mean, 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.240 he's huge, but he was. He was relatable to me. 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:59.840 And I walked up to him after we did the 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:03.600 runching and everybody's leaving, I'm walking towards I swear I 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:07.480 was the only student to walk towards them while everybody 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:10.639 was leaving out, And with that told me that nobody 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:15.239 saw themselves able to approach these cats. So, you know, 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:17.800 take advantage of your opportunities, you know what I mean? 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:19.520 I only have too many. I don't have too many 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.760 what's the word regrets When it comes to opportunities, I 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.200 take advantage to try to take advantage of all my opportunities. 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:31.000 Only regret I have is recently when I was interviewed 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:34.000 at UH this is fifty, I'm I'm a I'm a 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.320 huge fifty cents fan and I'm walking out and he 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:38.840 was in fifty was down there talking at the border. 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:39.520 I should have just. 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:43.159 Busted there, you know, Like, yo, bro, you've changed, like 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:46.760 you have been like a driving force in my life 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:49.320 and where I'm going. And like how much I looked 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:51.000 up to him, cause I look up to many people. 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:52.800 You own money for that fuck. 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:59.280 Some money for that fifty I mean that's a good 0:18:59.320 --> 0:18:59.840 problem to have. 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:01.920 I mean the last dude ran up for him, he 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:04.320 was like, yeah, it ain't gonna but. 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.640 I was actually in this this is fifty office though 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:08.560 he was. 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:11.600 But that's true too, man, Like you saw something that 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:13.400 you could aspire to be. And that's something that we've 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:15.840 been trying to preach. It is like it's tough, especially 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:18.280 from in our community. You want to be something if 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:21.000