WEBVTT - Democracy is a Farce 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:14.640 Good morning, Peepsen. Welcome to Okay f Daily with Meet 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:18.920 your Girl Danielle Moody recording from the Home Bunker. Folks. 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:24.440 News has come out. Alan Weisselberg, Trump's former CFO, who 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:28.639 was a part of a fifteen fucking year scheme to 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:33.480 evade taxes defraud the government, has received a whopping one 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:39.720 hundred days uh sentencing from Alvin Bragg, the compromised Manhattan 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:42.839 District Attorney, if you remember, and Glenn is going to 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:47.000 walk us through where we are in terms of the 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:54.640 investigation and search in Mara Lago to Weislberg sentencing. And 0:00:55.240 --> 0:01:01.240 the fact is this, Alvin Bragg had two top prosecutors 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:05.520 quit publicly a couple of months ago. I know that 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.479 it probably seems like years ago at this point given 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:12.240 all the things that have transpired. And the reality is 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:15.080 because they said that they had more than enough information 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:18.319 to be able to bring charges and indict Donald Trump, 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:22.520 and Alvin Bragg said no. Now in this bullshit deal 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:27.400 that the Manhattan District Attorney gave to Weisselberg, is that, 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:29.720 oh guess what, you get a hundred day slap on 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:33.040 the wrist and you don't have to testify against Donald 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:37.039 Trump in this ongoing investigation, Can somebody explain to me 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.040 what the fuck is going on and why Alvin Bragg 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:44.240 has yet to be investigated. Because when something smells rotten, 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:48.080 when something don't smell right, it usually isn't right. And 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.240 I'm so sick and fucking tired of watching these wealthy 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:56.080 white men do whatever the fuck they want and face 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.520 no accountability for it. People say, oh, well, at least 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:04.360 it's something I don't want, just something I actually want, justice, 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:08.000 which I'm beginning to think is impossible to come by 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:11.160 in this country. And I should pretty much just give 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:15.040 up the hope and the idea that anyone is going 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:19.720 to be held accountable because, as Glenn tweeted, thank god 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:24.240 Alan Weisselberg didn't sell loose cigarettes, Thank god he didn't 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:28.960 have suspicion of stealing a backpack. Thank god right that 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:32.800 he didn't sell a rock of crack, because otherwise he 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:35.920 would I've either have been executed and brought fucking daylight 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:39.960 in the streets or right be thrown in jail and 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:43.800 locked up without a key. When people continue to tell 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:45.960 me to have faith and have hope and then we 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:49.760 see bullshit like this, This is what has me outdone 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.440 right and has me continue to just be like, you 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:55.240 know what, at the end of the day, I'm starting 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:58.080 not to give a fuck and pretty much want people 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:01.400 to just take care of themselves elves right in the 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:06.800 best possible ways that they can, because authoritarianism, fascism, kleptocracy, 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:11.000 it's all here. The democracy is a farce. Right. What 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:15.160 America has always had is really good fucking pr right, 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:19.399 the ability to go around to other nations and decry 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:23.160 that we are the beacons of hope and freedom and 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:26.079 look at our country and this melting pot, and it's 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:30.360 all a lie. It is all a lie, just like 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:34.560 white supremacy is the lie of white exceptionalism right, which 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:37.280 has also had the pr to go around the world 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:43.280 stoke anti blackness right and uphold whiteness as something right 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:48.480 as the ultimate currency. Also a fucking lie. And I 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:52.200 just want everyone to wake up to the fact that 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:56.160 we have all been bamboosled, let astray right by the 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.960 lies of this country, and we're seeing it play out 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:02.920 every single day. And there's no starker way to look 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.840 at inequity in America and not look at the mountain 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.320 of evidence against Donald Trump and know that ain't not 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.800 a fucking thing going to happen to him or anyone 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:15.240 around him. Coming up next my conversation with our friend 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:18.200 Glenn Kirshner to walk us through the fuckery that is 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:23.000 Donald Trump. Hey, I'm David. Plots of Slates Political Gabfest. 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:27.599 As another election season accelerates, it can be tricky to 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.640 sort through all the noise and the news. 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Glenn, we had not spoken 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:42.240 since the search, the FBI search of mar Lago, since 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:48.760 now Trump's former CFO has now been sentenced to a 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:54.280 whopping one hundred days after more than a decade of fraud, 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:59.320 tax evasion, lies, schemes, and I want to get a 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:04.400 sense from you. Let's start with the now Republican party, 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.880 who wants to defund law enforcement, who wants to defund 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:12.440 the FBI. They're totally okay when police are killing unarmed 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:14.960 black people and cheering them on and wanting to back 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:18.159 the blue at that point. But if you have law 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:22.200 enforcement that has the audacity to get a warrant to 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:27.799 legally search a known criminal, right that all of a sudden, 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:32.440 it's everything. Everything is a mess, and every agency is 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.840 a fraud and everything needs to be destroyed. And not 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.760 only that, but we also need to use political violence, 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:42.039 which that rhetoric is escalating as well. I want to 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:45.360 get your thoughts on where we are right now two 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:50.920 weeks post the search of Mara Lago. We're not in 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.880 a great place. But I'm going to look for the 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:57.960 silver lining on a couple of these issues, and I 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.039 will warn you I won't be able to find it 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:03.640 on one of these issues. But first of all, with 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:09.040 respect to the Republican calls for to defund the FBI, 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:13.640 I have seen my friends in the FBI and the 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:19.760 law enforcement communities outraged in a way that I haven't 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.840 seen them outraged before. And here is the silver lining. 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:29.200 The Republicans are losing votes and support every day because 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:35.200 the FBI community and all of the people that surround 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:42.480 the FBI community, friends, families, any number of organizations, and 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:44.840 I think the American people who say, you know, the FBI, 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:49.120 among other things, goes after child predators, child pornographers, people 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:54.360 who kidnap across state lines, etc. Every single day. With 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:59.120 every stupid thing that comes out of the mouths of 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:03.920 the Grass and the Grahams and the Jordans, I believe 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:09.760 the Republican Party continues to die a slow death. That's 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:13.480 the good news, that's the silver lining. Now, the fact 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:19.200 that the Republicans are inspiring violence against law enforcement agencies 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:23.440 that have the temerity of trying to hold a criminal 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:29.920 former president accountable is absurd and obscene. It's obviously dangerous 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:33.199 and what I hope the Department of Justice will also 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:39.280 begin to wrestle with Danielle is holding politicians accountable for 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:45.439 their speech that is designed to incite imminent violence, because 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:50.320 that doesn't enjoy First Amendment protection. And DJ has to 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:56.200 get over its timidity and its fear of being criticized 0:08:56.440 --> 0:09:01.000 for trampling on our First Amendment rights. Don't you don't 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:04.200 have First Amendment rights to incite imminent violence. That's what 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.400 some of these Republicans are doing. So, I mean, I 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.480 know we're screaming into the void saying we hope DJ 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:14.120 does X, but you know, I do think in the 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:17.040 long run, even though they're going to try to steal 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.679 the twenty twenty two midterms in the twenty twenty four 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:24.000 presidential election with this dirty state legislation they keep trying 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:28.200 to pass, in the long run, the Republican Party is 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:32.520 destined to become extinct. Does Liz Cheney rise up from 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:36.400 the ashes? I don't know. Ideologically I hope not. But 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:40.160 dispositionally she's fighting for our democracy, so I hope so, 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.800 because then maybe we can get back to fighting over 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:47.040 policy and ideology instead of fighting over whether we should 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:50.880 be a democracy or a dictatorship. You know, Glenn, I 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.360 want to ask you something about this rise in the 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:58.240 rhetoric for political violence that is coming from Republicans because 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.600 it is one sided, right, as much as the media 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.520 wants to talk about it, generally, it is one party 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:07.680 that is doing this, and the reality is, like you're saying, 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:11.480 we don't really have strong laws in my humble opinion 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.760 around what it is that politicians can and cannot say. 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:18.719 I mean, we have seen Republicans running for office that 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:23.280 are using their political opponents as target practice, literally using 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:27.200 an holding an AR fifteen and having their face and saying, 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:30.480 you know, I'm going hunting for rhinos, or remember before 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:34.319 Gabby Giffords was shot, right that Sarah Palin had her 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:40.360 on her website in gun crosshairs. This type of attitude 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.960 and demeanor by the Republican Party is not new. It 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:47.240 is just gotten it is just increased, right, and the 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.760 and the rhetoric has risen, and so I wonder, you know, 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.280 do you feel as if, and this is a question 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:57.320 that was posed by the Washington Post a couple of 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:00.920 weeks ago, are we headed towards some type of civil 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:04.200 war here? Like? Is this something that shouldn't continue to 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.520 be ignored as we did with Palin and as we 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:11.040 do with these other members like a Marjorie Taylor Green, 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:17.280 who again used visual political violence in her campaigning for 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:21.520 Congress like it, do you feel that they are just 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:26.000 egging this on? And what can be done with the 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.800 laws that are on the books to actually stop this? 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:33.040 I actually believe there are plenty of laws on the 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:40.160 books and including communicating threats, threats against public officials, what 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.920 we need. I don't. I don't think we are actually 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:46.000 heading towards civil war because I don't think the Trump 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:51.280 supporters that sort of ugly ten percent of the most hateful, 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:56.720 most dangerous Trump supporters are brave human beings. I mean, 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.160 you know they're brave when they walk around with their 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:02.880 big automatical weapons strapped across their bellies. But they're not 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:06.000 brave people. They're not going to organize. They're not going 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:09.199 to fight if it means putting themselves in harm's way. 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:11.600 Will there be pockets of violence? Where will there be 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:17.240 lone wolf idiots Trump supporters who will attack an FBI 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:20.680 field office with a nail gun? You know, yes, there 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:25.120 will be pockets of violence, isolated incidents of violence. I 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:28.440 don't believe that we're heading toward a civil war, but 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:32.280 there actually is an easy way to if not put 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:37.280 a stop to it, send a great, big signal of deterrence. 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:45.800 Prosecute just one of them. Prosecute one politician for speech 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:51.359 that is designed to incite imminent violence. Just one and Danielle. 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.920 I don't care if they lose the case. It's more 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:59.160 important to try cases than to lose cases, because once 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:04.600 we try just one politicians for crimes they commit with 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:11.280 their dangerous speech inciting imminent violence. These people are so 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:16.560 weak and scared and motivated by self preservation that they 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:22.560 will stop or cut back on their own reckless rhetoric 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:28.080 because they ultimately won't say, well, if I get indicted 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:31.680 by the Department of Justice, I will eventually beat the 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.160 case like that other person did. They don't want to 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:37.000 be indicted. They don't want to live for a couple 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:41.440 of years in court fighting against a possible criminal conviction. 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.080 They're weak and they're sniveling, and they don't stand on 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:48.520 principle indict one, Just indict one if the evidence supports 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.880 an indictment, and it does many times over, We've seen it. 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:54.920 You've got to get off the diamond do it. Every 0:13:55.000 --> 0:14:00.800 day we fail to indict criminal politicians, we are adding 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.760 fuel to their fire, and I don't know why we 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:08.160 continue to do that. Let's talk about Mara Lago now 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:12.000 and the fact that Merrick Garland, the Department of Justice 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:16.920 has gone to court to want to unseal the affidavit. 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:21.200 I want to understand the difference between you know, the 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.000 push and for people to say that Trump needs to 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:27.560 release the release the warrant because he has the warrant 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:31.800 and knows exactly what he means affiantic. So explain to 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:35.640 me the difference, Like, explain to me the difference with 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.120 what it is that the Department of Justice is trying 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.200 to do, what Trump is trying to cover up, and 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.960 why they had to go into court. Okay, So there 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:46.640 are three parts to a warrant for purposes of this discussion, 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:52.440 and Let's be clear, it's a pretty historic thing that 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:57.280 the Department of Justice went to a federal judge and said, Judge, 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:01.920 we have evidence that there is crime, evidence of crime 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:06.760 located on the property of a former president's home, and 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.520 we can prove it by a by probable cause. And 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:13.840 they convince the judge that there's evidence of crime right 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:17.080 now as of the date they applied for that warrant 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:23.280 on Donald Trump's property. That's pretty dramatic. The other thing 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.400 I'll say before I talk about the three pieces that 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:31.560 make up a warrant, is that there are three crimes 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:35.720 that are cited in that warrant as the basis for 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:40.040 having gone down and hit Marilago and recovered all of 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:43.560 that evidence of crime, and none of those three crimes, 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:48.320 Danielle require that the documents be classified. So I want 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:52.640 to set aside all of this nonsensical debate we've been 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:56.280 having over whether Donald Trump can think in his mind 0:15:56.400 --> 0:16:01.080 something's classified declassified and it magically is. None of that 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:05.920 matters for the three charges in the affidavit that served 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.720 as a basis for the search horn. Let's talk about 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.280 the three pieces of a search horn. One is what 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:15.400 i'll call the face sheet. All that is is the 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:20.240 formal document by which a judge authorizes the search. So 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:23.440 it has the location of the search, it has the 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:27.960 date of the application, it has the judge's signature authorizing 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:31.160 the search, and it doesn't really tell us anything about 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:36.320 the evidence. It's like a bureaucratic document officially authorizing the search. 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.400 That's been unsealed, and I think that is the document 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.800 that showed us those three crimes that the Department of 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:48.520 Justice is pursuing involving Donald Trump. The other thing that's 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:52.400 been unsealed and that we have, although it's been redacted, 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:57.720 is the inventory or the property receipt or the list 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:02.200 of stuff that was taken, but it's redacted or it's 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:07.879 generally described fifteen boxes of highly classified materials, right, So 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:12.040 that we have that's been unsealed, But it's the one 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.160 in the middle. The one in the middle is like 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:19.159 the story of the crime. It is the affidavit, and 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:24.280 affidavit is a fancy word for a long narrative describing 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:29.320 all of the evidence that leads the Department of Justice 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:33.080 to conclude the crimes were committed and evidence of those 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.399 crimes will be found at Mara Lago. That's all the 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:40.120 good stuff. That's the book, the story, the movie of 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:44.720 the crime that gave rise to the probable cause to search. 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:49.639 That is under sealed, and a hundred times out of 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:53.240 one hundred remains under sealed in a criminal investigation until 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:55.960 there's an indictment, and then we have to give over 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:59.760 those investigative documents to the defense so they can prepare 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:03.480 for trial. That's when it will first be disclosed and 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:07.240 not disclosed publicly, mind you, only disclosed to the defense 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:09.440 team so they have all the evidence so they can 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:12.560 prepare for trial. But I think it's important for people 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:15.280 to know that the hearing that was just held down 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:19.600 in Florida was not the Department of Justice versus Donald Trump. 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:25.240 It was the news media, the fourth estate, news organizations 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:30.199 asking the judge to unseal in the public interest, and 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:34.600 the public does have an interest in seeing what this 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.399 criminal president has been up to and the evidence that 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.840 led to the search of mar Lago Danielle. Donald Trump's 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:44.600 defense team had every opportunity to jump in and join 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.919 that motion and say we want to disclose too, and 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:51.359 they didn't do that. Why because it's going to kill 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:55.000 him if all a figuratively speaking in the court of 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:58.240 public opinion. It's going to kill him if we see 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:01.720 that movie of all of the evidence of Donald Trump's 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:04.640 crimes that led to the search warrant. He doesn't want 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:08.560 that unsealed. He wants it to remain sealed so the 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:12.280 Republicans can yell and scream that it's a cover up. Right. 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:15.200 His lawyers didn't even ask the judge to unseal it, 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:19.760 but the news organizations did, including you know, my parent organization, 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:23.639 NBC News MSNBC, and I don't. Not only do I 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:26.480 not blame them. The public does have a right to 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:31.280 know as much as we can know about Donald Trump's crimes, 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:35.639 but I don't want to know anything that would impair 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:40.480 the ongoing investigation, that would compromise national security, or that 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:45.600 would hurt witnesses or deter other witnesses from participating in 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:49.840 the investigation. So DJ actually a friend of mine, somebody 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.000 I worked with for decades, I believe. Over at the 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:55.879 DCUs Attorney's office, Jay Bratt was the attorney in court, 0:19:56.400 --> 0:20:00.840 arguing Judge, we can't unseal any of this because it's 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:06.000 you know, involves highly classified national security information. It would 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:08.960 disclose witnesses, and we know witnesses have been tampered with. 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:12.520 Think of Cassidy Hutchinson. So Judge, we can't disclose any 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:15.639 of it. And the judge took an appropriate middle ground, 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:19.399 in my opinion, he said, Okay, I hear you. Here's 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:21.960 what I want you to do. I want you to 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:26.760 try to redact everything out of the affidavit that would 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:31.880 compromise the investigation, hurt national security, or endanger witnesses, and 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:35.560 show me the rest of it that you think wouldn't 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:37.800 run the risk of doing any of those things, such 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:40.720 that we can disclose at least some of it to 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:44.159 the public, to the media. I think that's an appropriate 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:46.520 middle ground. Now, it may be at the end of 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:50.240 the day when DJ takes that crack at redacting out 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:53.639 stuff it believes it needs to redact out, the judge 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:57.520 may say, you know what, You've persuaded me that you 0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:00.400 really would have to redact so much that there would 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:03.080 be no useful information for the public at the end 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:05.200 of the day because it would be a word here 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:09.760 and a line there that was not redacted. So I'm 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:12.320 not going to order you to disclose anything. It could 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:15.880 be the judge says, I agree with your redactions let's 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.679 go ahead and disclose what you believe can be disclosed, 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:22.159 or he might say, I disagree with your redactions. I 0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:25.879 want you to unredact more and show that to me, 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:27.800 because this is going to be a work in progress 0:21:27.840 --> 0:21:32.760 until I'm satisfied that you know you're only redacting what 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:36.720 would really hurt your investigation. So this is not over. 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:39.680 I think the judge is taking a sensible middle ground, 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:41.879 even though as a prosecutor, I would be the one 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:44.880 arguing Judge, please don't disclose any of it, because we're 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:47.959 hard at work investigating the crimes of Donald Trump and 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:52.640 we don't want anything to interfere with that. I mean, 0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:56.360 I just think that it is crazy, Glenn, that this 0:21:56.440 --> 0:22:00.639 man left the White House with fifteen plus boxes of 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:04.680 classified information and we know, let's just put it out there. 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:08.520 Donald Trump is in debt, right and we know exactly 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:11.640 where he gets his money from the people that are 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:16.880 supposed enemies of the United States. MBS gave Jared Kushner 0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:21.159 two billion dollars post him leaving the Trump administration. You 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:24.240 have putin and the amount of money that is held 0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:27.280 up over in Russia that the Trumps have, so I 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:31.760 you know, my feeling is this. They went they retrieved 0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:34.119 the boxes that they've been asking for for the last 0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:38.760 nineteen plus months to get back and avoid right, avoid 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:41.479 all of this. But do we not think that Donald 0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:44.640 Trump has already done something with those documents? I mean, 0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:48.960 we have computer scanners, fax machines. I mean, do we 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:53.840 really think that America's national security hasn't been breached and 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:58.680 isn't at risk. No. I absolutely believe he has already 0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:03.040 exploited those documents to his advantage, which is in part 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:07.560 what continues to make this a national security investigation of 0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:13.760 one of the crimes listed in the search warrant authorizing 0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:17.639 the search. One of the crimes DJ is investigating falls 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:24.720 under the Espionage Act, and it is removing, concealing transmitting 0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:30.280 national defense information that's under that's the charge under the 0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:34.640 Espionage Act that is being investigated, and that served as 0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:38.600 a basis for this search warrant. So do you think 0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:41.520 once Donald Trump stole and damn it, let's call it 0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:44.760 what it is. He stole the stell from the White House, 0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:47.840 He didn't have any right to it. And remember fifteen 0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:51.320 boxes is what the National Archives got months and months ago. 0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:55.040 And then DJ went down there the secure The National 0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:58.119 security officials went down there in June, and Trump and 0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:00.280 his team said, we've given it all. We've given it all, 0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:03.119 We've given it all. And that was a lie. And 0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:07.480 then they went down and got another ten or twelve boxes. Right, so, 0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:11.480 and and the part and see what I've just articulated 0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:16.920 there about the course of the way this played out. 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:20.359 We know that and that that I just described as 0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:22.439 going to be in the affidavit, And that brings me 0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:26.120 back to how the judge could say, listen, everybody knows 0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:30.400 that part. So it doesn't really interfere with the ongoing 0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:34.960 investigation if DJ gives over big chunks like that that 0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:39.800 we already know. And frankly, this cuts against the prosecutor 0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:43.880 in me. I hope the judge orders unsealed as much 0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:48.359 as he can without damaging the ongoing investigation, because damn it, 0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:51.639 we do need to know, and the pressure needs to 0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:55.560 get ratcheted up, and all the ridiculousness coming out of 0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:59.320 the republic Republican Party needs to be met with the 0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:03.159 force of facts and reality. And we'll get some of 0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:06.880 that from the affidavit. I mean, the fact that this 0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:10.520 man is not indicted at this point the fact that 0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:12.960 he has not been indicted, the fact that we now 0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:17.159 know that he's a ligit. He is a traitor, right like, 0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:22.600 this is treason. He is literally selling state secrets, right like, 0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:26.959 never in our wildest dreams would we imagine a former 0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:30.840 president of the United States, anyone entering into this office 0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:35.320 doing something like this. And yet we're all carrying are 0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:38.919 your Republicans carrying around like carrying on as if like 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:42.600 it's the it's it's the Department of Justice? Is you 0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:47.679 know vendetta? Unlike? Do you not get that we're under threat? 0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:51.159 We're already under threat under so many different ways in 0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:55.320 this country, and Donald Trump up the ante and no 0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:59.640 one cares. Um, Glenn, let's let's quickly talk about Weisselberg 0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:04.760 and the fact that you know what, I quote quote 0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:08.160 tweeted your tweet because I know that you'll be doing 0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:12.760 a video on his hundred day sentencing, which he doesn't 0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:15.760 have to testify against. Donald Trump doesn't have to do 0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:20.399 much of anything. Basically, fifteen years of stealing, thieving, lying 0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:24.439 gets you one hundred days. I quote tweeted you because 0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:29.359 I wanted to remind America about Calife Browder. I wanted 0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:33.240 to remind people about the sixteen year old black boy 0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:35.760 that was picked up under suspicion of having stolen a 0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:39.639