1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: stories we're following today. 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: We begin with the fallout from the final decisions of 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court's term. President Biden is dealing with divided 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: public opinion over the High Court ending affirmative action and 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: college admissions. About half of Americans telling ABC News ipsos 8 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: Paul they support the ruling, while about a third disapproved. 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: Former Vice President Mike Pince is among Republicans celebrating the decision. 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 3: There may have been a time when affirmative action was 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 3: necessary simply to open the doors of all of our 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 3: schools and universities, but I think that time has passed 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 3: and we'll continue to move forward as a colorblind society. 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: The High Court also rejected President Biden's student loan relief 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: plan and allowed a constitutional exception to anti discrimination laws, 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: and its final decisions of the term that raises a 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: fundamental question for Transportation Secretary Pete Boodagen. 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 4: Did we just live to see the high water mark 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 4: of freedom's and rights in this country before they were 20 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 4: gradually taken away? 21 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: Secretary Budhaja Jan former Vice President Pence, where guests on 22 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: Face the Nation from CBS, which you can hear every 23 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: Sunday right here on Bloomberg Radio. 24 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: Meantime, Nathan relations with China are also front and center 25 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 2: in Washington. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen travels to Beijing on Thursday, 26 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: and it tends to stay through the weekend, ending months 27 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: of speculation as to when she would visit. Bloomberg Stephen 28 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: Engel and Beijing, says Yellen will need to address comments 29 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: she's made about the economic relationship between the two nations. 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 5: It was Jannet Yellen who has been talking a lot 31 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 5: about de risking from the China supply chain. She's talked 32 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 5: about friend shoring and moving some supply chain resilience to 33 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 5: other nations, including Japan. In fact, in April, Jannet Yellen 34 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 5: had a sharply worded speech where she did again reaffirm 35 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 5: that they are not trying to decouple from China, but 36 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,639 Speaker 5: did admit that the United States might have to accept 37 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 5: some sort of economic costs by sort of de risking 38 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,919 Speaker 5: from the China, you know, supply chain. And so again 39 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 5: this will be a critical meeting because she's going to 40 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 5: be meeting the new leadership team. 41 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: And Bloomberg Stephen Engel notes Janet Yellen is the second 42 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: member of President Biden's cabinet to visit China in recent weeks. 43 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: And that visit Karen comms. As President Biden gears up 44 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: for his own overseas trip, the White House announced the 45 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: President will head to Lithuania next Sunday for the seventy 46 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: fourth NATO Summit. He will aim to short ties with 47 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: allies against the backdrop of a recent failed mutiny in Russia. 48 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: All the while Poland is increasing its defensive presence on 49 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: its border with Russia. There are reports the Wagner Mercenary group, 50 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: which sparked on mutiny, may be regrouping in Belarus. 51 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: Well elsewhere in Europe, Nathan civil unrest is making major waves. 52 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: In France, tensions are easing a bid after a week 53 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: of nationwide riots touched off by the fatal police shooting 54 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: of a teenager Bloomberg's Caroline Connan and Paris says President 55 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: Emanuel mccron is meeting with cabinet members and local leaders 56 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 2: in response to the violence. 57 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 6: He had to console his big Fish state visit to Germany. 58 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 6: He also came back from the EU summit early on Friday, 59 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 6: and of course this is very bad for the image 60 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 6: of funds because we were just getting away from all 61 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 6: the protests we saw earlier this year against the pension reform. 62 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 6: Now you have these riots. It's also the beginning of 63 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 6: the tourist season, infants. 64 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 2: And Bloomberg's Caroline conn And says arrests are slowing. They're 65 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: down to about one hundred and sixty so far today. 66 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: That compares to seven hundred the previous night and thirteen 67 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: hundred the night before that. 68 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: Returning to Wall Street, now, Karen, we have some big 69 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: news out of the tech sector this morning. We are 70 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: watching shares of Tesla. They are hired by six percent 71 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: in the pre market. That's after the electric vehicle company 72 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: were delivered a record four hundred and sixty six thousand 73 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: vehicles in the second quarter. Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett has the details. 74 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: The deliveries are the most ever in a quarter for 75 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: Austin based Tesla and an eighty three percent increase from 76 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: a year ago. The results demonstrate that CEO Elon Musk's 77 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: vowed to chase volume by cutting price have had their 78 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: intended effect. The company also managed to trim the gap 79 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: between production and deliveries a number closely watched by analysts 80 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: to thirteen thousand, five hundred and sixty units in the 81 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: second quarter. In New York, Charlie Public Bloomberg Daybreak, Right, Arnlie. 82 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 5: Thanks well. 83 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: Apple's also in the news this morning. According to the 84 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: Financial Times, Apple is slashing production targets for its Vision 85 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 2: Pro headset. It comes as manufacturers struggle with the device's 86 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: complex design. Apple suppliers are reportedly being asked for components 87 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 2: to make just one hundred and fifty thousand headsets in 88 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: the first year. It also looks like plans for a 89 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: cheaper version of the headsetter being pushed back, and right now, 90 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: shares of Apple they are pretty much little change in 91 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: the pre market. 92 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: As for the broader market, Karen, Today marks the first 93 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: day of the second half of the trading year, and 94 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: the Nasdaq is up almost thirty nine percent, but Bloomberg 95 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: Chief US economist Stana wongsa has a second half slowdown 96 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: is still expected thanks to tightening from the Fed. 97 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 7: I think a recession is going to happen because there's 98 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 7: five hundred bits of rate hike in the pipeline, and 99 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 7: there's another twenty five bits likely coming in July. So 100 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 7: in the second half of this year, You're going to 101 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 7: have five hundred and twenty five bits rate hike in 102 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 7: the pipeline, so that should be sufficient to push the 103 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 7: economy into your session. 104 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Xanda Loong says the next clues on FED policy 105 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: likely come on Wednesday, when we get minutes from the 106 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: fomc's June meeting. Time now to take a look at 107 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: some of the other stories making news in New York 108 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: and around the world. For that, we are joined by 109 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Michael bar Good morning, Michael. 110 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 8: Good morning, Nathan. More than five thousand flights were delayed 111 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 8: or canceled across the country Sunday as air travel woes continue. 112 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 8: Transportation Secretary Pete Boudage spoke on CBS has faced the 113 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 8: nation on Friday. 114 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 4: We saw, according to TSA, a record number of airline passengers, 115 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 4: probably the most ever in America, and we saw those 116 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 4: cancelation rates stay low right now, we're below two percent, 117 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 4: but they really shot up at the first part of 118 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 4: the week, largely because of severe weather hitting some of 119 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 4: our key hubs. 120 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 8: Secretary Buddhagicht says the FAA plans to hire more air 121 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 8: traffic controllers CBS has faced the nation aires every Sunday 122 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 8: on Bloomberg, New York City Mayor Eric Adams says the 123 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 8: Supreme Court's recent decision to strike down affirmative action as 124 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 8: effectively undoing all of our rights. Adam spoke on a 125 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 8: panel featuring black mayors at the Global Black Economic Forum 126 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 8: in New Orleans. The mayor also says homelessness and the 127 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 8: asylum crisis are two of the biggest issues threatening not 128 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 8: only New York but all of America. 129 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 9: All mayors must come up with a clear urban agenda 130 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 9: on how do we ensure the resources that are coming 131 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 9: to the state find their way into the cities. That's 132 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 9: so important, this a migrant asylum seeker issue. Every mayor 133 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 9: should lift his voice. 134 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 8: Audio courtesy of ABC seven. Mayor Adams was on a 135 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 8: panel joined by the mayors of Los Angeles, Atlanta, Cleveland, 136 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 8: and New Orleans. Hunt continues for at least two shooters 137 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 8: believed to have unleashed a barrage of bullets at the 138 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 8: Baltimore block party over the weekend. Police say the gunman 139 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 8: shop thirty people, nearly half of them children. Two of 140 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 8: them died, including a teenager. Baltimore Mayor Brandon Scott. 141 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 9: We will not stop until we find those cowers who 142 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 9: decided to just shoot dozens of people, causing two people 143 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 9: to lose their lives. 144 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 8: Mayor Scott says there is now an eight thousand dollars 145 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 8: reward being offered by police to find the people responsible 146 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 8: for the shooting. Israeli drones have struck targets and a 147 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 8: stronghold of militants in the occupied West Bank, and hundreds 148 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 8: of troops are deployed in the area. Palestinian health officials 149 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 8: sat today at least five Palestinians were killed and twenty 150 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 8: seven injured. It came at a time of growing domestic 151 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 8: pressure for a tough response to a series of attacks 152 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 8: on Israeli settlers, including one last week that killed four people. 153 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 8: Global News twenty four hours a day, powered by more 154 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 8: than twenty seven hundred journalist and analysts and over one 155 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 8: hundred twenty countries. I'm Michael Bard. This is Bloomberg. Nathan. 156 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: Okay, Michael, thank you time now for the Bloomberg Sports update. 157 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: For that we bring in Dan Schwartzman. 158 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,119 Speaker 10: Good morning, Nathan. The Mets dominating the San Francisco Giants 159 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 10: eight to Ford City Field. 160 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 11: Universas name West. 161 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 4: Center Field Raise for the Derby, two munch On Alonso 162 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 4: and hate. 163 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 10: No Outter that's courtesy of ESPN Grand Hardware picking up 164 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 10: the win for New York while ped Alonzo belts his 165 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 10: twenty fifth home run this season. The Mets opening up 166 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 10: a three game series versus the Diamondbacks in Arizona starting 167 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 10: on Tuesday. Peed Alonzo has been named to his third 168 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 10: All Star Game, being the Mets lone representative in Seattle. 169 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 10: Alonzo also committing to competing in the Home Run Derby 170 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 10: on July tenth, as he's won the event twice back 171 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 10: in twenty nineteen. In twenty twenty one, the Yankees lose 172 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 10: the final game of their three game series in Saint 173 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 10: Louis as former Yankee Jorn Montgomery pitches the Cardinals to 174 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 10: a five to one win. New York opens up a 175 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 10: four game set versus Uriels tonight in the Bronx as 176 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 10: Di Mingo herband takes them out for the first time 177 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 10: since this perfect game while the Oriols are countering with 178 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 10: Tyler Wells. Meanwhile, Garret Cole has been named the All 179 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 10: Star Team for the third traite time as a Yankee 180 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 10: and six time overall in the NBA. The Brooklyn Nets 181 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 10: and guard Lonnie Walker, evergreed toil one year contract last 182 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 10: season with the Los Angeles Lakers. Walker ravage close to 183 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 10: twelve points per game while shooting over thirty six percent 184 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 10: from three point land On Dan Schwartzmith Bloomberg Sports. 185 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 12: From coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, 186 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 12: Boston to Washington, DC, nationwide on syriasxam, the Bloomberg Business 187 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 12: app in Bloomberg dot com. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning, 188 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 12: I'm Nathan Hager. 189 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,599 Speaker 1: Well stocks have defied many in analysts' expectations in the 190 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: first half of twenty twenty three, despite hawkish central banks 191 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: and expectations of an economic slow down. The S and 192 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: P five hundred has gained sixteen percent since the start 193 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: of this year. The tech having Nasdaq is up nearly 194 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: thirty nine percent. Can this market continue to power through 195 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: into the rest of the year. Let's bring in someone 196 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: who's been following the markets for decades as we kick 197 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: off the second half of trading year twenty twenty three. 198 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: We are joined by Dennis Gartman, former publisher of The 199 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: Garment Letter, now chairman of the University of Akron Endowment 200 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: Investment Committee. Dennis, it's good to speak with you on 201 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: the kickoff of the second half, but of course it 202 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: has been very tough to be a bear in this market. 203 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: Where do you see the momentum heading into the second half. 204 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 11: The momentum obviously has been to the upside. It has 205 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 11: shocked me something fierce. It's been impressive. But I have 206 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 11: to think that we're getting close to a peak. One 207 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 11: would have to think. I mean the fact that the 208 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 11: CNN there in greed index is at eighty three, which 209 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 11: I have not seen at that high in years. The 210 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 11: fact that the eel curves is inverted as it has 211 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 11: been and is getting worse. What twos and tens are 212 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 11: now one seven, one eight, seven hundred and eight basis points, 213 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 11: which is historically I should I shouldn't say unprecedented, but 214 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 11: certainly hasn't been precedented many times in the past. The 215 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 11: public is involved in the market, no question. I think 216 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 11: that things are extremely expensive, and the fact that you 217 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 11: can get almost five and a half percent for a 218 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 11: one year T bill almost what four nine four two 219 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 11: or so four nunty three for a two year yield 220 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 11: on a two year note those seem to me to 221 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 11: be a better place to be involved. But I have 222 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 11: been surprised by the fact that we have been as 223 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 11: as strong as it has been. It has shocked me 224 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 11: something fierce, and I have to think that we're getting 225 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 11: close to a peak. But time shall tell. This is 226 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 11: the first day of the open of the month, first 227 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 11: day of the quarter, first day of the half year, 228 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 11: and there's always an inflow, an influx of money coming 229 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 11: in on the first day, so today will probably be higher. 230 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 11: But I've got to think if you, if you have 231 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 11: a chance to take profits, you probably should. 232 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: I have to hear the certain level of humility there, 233 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: given how bariss you have been for the last year 234 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: and a half. Really, why do you think the the 235 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 1: bear side of this market has gotten this first half 236 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: at least so wrong? 237 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 11: Good question. I wish I had a better answer than 238 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 11: I'm willing to give capable of giving. It has shocked 239 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 11: me something. I have been utterly surprised the fact that 240 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 11: everything that I have learned in the past forty five 241 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 11: years seems to have gone out the window. The public 242 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 11: has gotten it right, the pros have gotten it wrong. 243 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 11: And why that has occurred is really quite beyond me. 244 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 11: The fact that we've had an in very deal curve 245 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 11: we've learned that that should give rise to a recession. 246 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 11: This is, without question, the most well forecast recession that 247 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 11: has not come to fruition yet in history. I wish 248 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 11: I had an answer, but it has shocked a lot 249 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 11: of my friends of the shock to a lot of 250 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 11: the pros, and the public has been amenable to a 251 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 11: bull market. Anything that has ai written upon it reminds 252 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 11: me of that stock wants to go higher, that market 253 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 11: wants to go up, and it reminds me of the 254 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 11: days back in the nineteen ninety nine, two thousand and 255 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,599 Speaker 11: two thousand and one when all you had to do 256 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 11: was say the word Internet and stock prices went up. 257 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 8: This is. 258 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 11: I think unprecedented, but it has shocked me, no question, 259 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 11: I have been surprised when. 260 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: You draw that parallel to nineteen ninety nine to two 261 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: thousand and one. Of course, that was a dot com 262 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: boom that led to a bust. Are you saying that 263 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: you think that this market is going to bust any 264 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: sometime soon? 265 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 11: Bust is a powerful word. Let's just simply say I 266 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 11: think prices are egregiously overextended and due to correct I 267 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 11: wouldn't call it a bust. I think that prices have 268 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 11: just become far more, far beyond the realm of rationality. 269 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 11: But as my good friend Gary shilling one said, the 270 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 11: market can remain irrational far longer than you or I 271 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 11: can remain solvent. 272 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: What do you think brings rationality back to this market? 273 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: Got about a minute left. 274 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 11: The fact that we have the eel curve has inverted, 275 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 11: as it is historically that that gives way to lower 276 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 11: stock prices, that gives way to recession, that gives way 277 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 11: to money leaving the stock market and going into the 278 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 11: bond market. The only place that I find of value 279 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 11: in stocks is I think that regional banks are extremely cheap, 280 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 11: and maybe aris are extremely cheap. 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