Speaker 1: Be Around with the NFL podcast. Pool side. Welcome to
Speaker 1: another episode of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name
Speaker 1: is Dan Handis and I am joined in a hotel
Speaker 1: filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rose.
Speaker 1: What is up hey, Dan? Mark has the biggest smile
Speaker 1: I've ever so, I mean, you know, to pull back
Speaker 1: the curtain. If that's actually what we're doing here, we
Speaker 1: we have done roughly. I was told by a listener.
Speaker 1: We thought it was seven eight hundred more well more
Speaker 1: than that, into the nine hundreds or something in that
Speaker 1: r and Dan just asked, after um a first take
Speaker 1: on his opening words to the show, if those were
Speaker 1: the actual words, then you had to cycle my final
Speaker 1: you know. We're here at the beautiful Fairmont um Hotel
Speaker 1: resort in Santa Monica for the NFL Media Talent Summit,
Speaker 1: which we somehow get invited to every year, and so
Speaker 1: we have a great show coming up where we have
Speaker 1: some interviews with Jane Slater and Peter Schraeger. But we're
Speaker 1: taping the show essentially in a hallway, and because we're
Speaker 1: not in the studio, you don't have the music from
Speaker 1: the cans and a little I'm at a place out
Speaker 1: of sorts a little bit. It makes complete said. The
Speaker 1: smile was because I've never heard Dan's you know, deep
Speaker 1: bass voice is booming so loudly in this hallway here.
Speaker 1: I love it. That was a contributor U. This is
Speaker 1: a fun event for around the NFL podcast because we
Speaker 1: are kind of men without a country a little bit
Speaker 1: like they today. For instance, they had what they call
Speaker 1: a breakout seminars where they break the entire media group.
Speaker 1: So they fly everybody in from all the talent and
Speaker 1: the reporters and the analysts all to this hotel. They
Speaker 1: put them up in the hotel. Uh. We have to
Speaker 1: commute here, but it's understandable. And the day too, this
Speaker 1: is the second and final day, they break it up
Speaker 1: into hosts, reporters, analysts and it's it's basically a boot
Speaker 1: camp and a way to converse and communicate all in
Speaker 1: the same place. And um, I you know, I've been
Speaker 1: hosted this podcast for a long time and we do
Speaker 1: things on live Twitter shows, we do NFL Network hits.
Speaker 1: When they said all right, go where you you go?
Speaker 1: I walked to the uh the host room, and I
Speaker 1: walk in Colleen Wolves there, Rich Eyes in UH unit
Speaker 1: and just Siciliana all the other hosts, and uh, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm not on network all the time, but clearly that's
Speaker 1: my role. I'm not a reporter and I'm not a
Speaker 1: pure analyst. So I sit down and by the time
Speaker 1: I even have a chance to like pick my head up,
Speaker 1: the man running the meeting, a shadowy leavier, says Dan, actually,
Speaker 1: you're not in this group. You're with the reporters. And
Speaker 1: I was like Hammon, Hamma, hammeda and that was just
Speaker 1: kind of the So I saw it back like Charlie
Speaker 1: Brown style through the hallways to find you guys, uh
Speaker 1: for that seminar. But you gentlemen are not reporters either,
Speaker 1: so we are kind of just floating. I guess closer
Speaker 1: to analysts more than I anything else, but that the
Speaker 1: vibe of the event is gathering, communicating, and it was
Speaker 1: a fun It was a fun two days, and we've
Speaker 1: made some progress. Now they do this six minute sizzle reel.
Speaker 1: They did a couple of different ones of them of
Speaker 1: like highlights during the year, and it used to get
Speaker 1: on our radar that that we were not even be
Speaker 1: involved in that, that we're small men, yeah in the
Speaker 1: in that, but we are now they make sure to
Speaker 1: put one clip. Now, if we wanted to still be
Speaker 1: small men, we could that they only put in the
Speaker 1: two different videos each. We got one in each, and
Speaker 1: it was only when it was a clip with another
Speaker 1: major star Joe Thomas and one Alvin Camar. So the
Speaker 1: next step will be when just the four of Us
Speaker 1: is worthy. It is a step in the right direction
Speaker 1: because it was a year ago that they simply shoved
Speaker 1: every podcast into one of thirty slides and a slide
Speaker 1: show and it was about eight seconds where you had
Speaker 1: to quickly scan every pot and ours was the four
Speaker 1: of Us and who I think they believed was Colleen Wolf,
Speaker 1: but it was actually little debris dressed up in her,
Speaker 1: so you know that. To me, it was kind of
Speaker 1: amazing to be like a Corporo event with like Michael
Speaker 1: Irvin just rolling his eyes and making facial expressions because
Speaker 1: he doesn't like what's going on, Like what else could
Speaker 1: you do that There was a slightly different tenor this year,
Speaker 1: I thought then last year, because it is a television
Speaker 1: network that is learning to face the reality that mobile
Speaker 1: platforms and digital platforms are not only just as important,
Speaker 1: but more important than television going forward, and that was
Speaker 1: a big emphasis of the meetings, and that's gonna give
Speaker 1: us a little bit more attention than we said. All Right,
Speaker 1: we have so much to get to and West, let's
Speaker 1: save it for the end of the show. A little
Speaker 1: update on the corporate jargon this year or last year,
Speaker 1: if you remember, if you're a longtime listener. Uh, we
Speaker 1: hear a lot of these corporal buzzwords, uh like above
Speaker 1: the tree tops and uh lit open, open the kimono,
Speaker 1: and we're fascinated by them. But most of the Shadow
Speaker 1: of League figures hear them and say them so much
Speaker 1: that doesn't even register. Toss. We have West, who's our official. Uh.
Speaker 1: He's he transcribes everyone and will check in on what
Speaker 1: our new corporate jargon is for nineteen. And let's also
Speaker 1: we'll share some thoughts, maybe some bullet point takeaways at
Speaker 1: the end of the show. But before that, let's get
Speaker 1: going with two really great interviews. Uh. First up, she
Speaker 1: covers the Cowboys for NFL Network. She's Jane Slater, So
Speaker 1: let's go now. And we did this. By the way,
Speaker 1: this was very I'm gonna say it was classy. It was.
Speaker 1: It was a little bit exotic, bit of a throwback
Speaker 1: to a Don Draper risk time. I believe maybe like
Speaker 1: a rat pack scenario. We went to the old Fairmont pool,
Speaker 1: sat on the chairs, Ricky Hollywood, thank you for setting
Speaker 1: it up for us. You're welcome. I got some nice
Speaker 1: time by the pool waiting for you guys. It was
Speaker 1: great reading your book and and so this is what
Speaker 1: we call pool side chats, starting yes with Jane Slater
Speaker 1: pool side All right. Here we are pool side chat
Speaker 1: at the Fairmont Hotel Bungalow here in Santa Monica. The
Speaker 1: son's out and it's even sunnier because Jane Slater is
Speaker 1: joining us for the first time. I mean around the
Speaker 1: NFL podcast. Welcome James. Wow, Jane, what what that's on us?
Speaker 1: I think that this should have happened probably two or
Speaker 1: three years ago, but we decided, like there's enough cowboys
Speaker 1: content on our network. So it kind of hurt you
Speaker 1: here that we you know, it's like, all right, we
Speaker 1: don't really need anymore, but you're more than just the cowboys.
Speaker 1: I kind of fan girl you guys a little bit
Speaker 1: after the owners meetings. I mean I just I literally
Speaker 1: became a fan girl. Did it come across? I feel? Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is great? Jane? Of course a reporter
Speaker 1: of Frederical Network and do a lot of Cowboys and
Speaker 1: Saints stuff. That that's your two main beats. Is that
Speaker 1: fair to say say it's Cowboys Saints if I'm yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: old handcuffs is what I call the team. What do
Speaker 1: you find great beat? It's this glamour beat. It's Dallas.
Speaker 1: The storylines right themselves. But I can't get out of
Speaker 1: there to save my life. But you grew up a
Speaker 1: cow you grew up in the Dallas area. You got
Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan? Or no? Yeah, I mean I went
Speaker 1: to the parade in the nineties. Everybody wore starter jackets
Speaker 1: in middle school. And we have more questions about Jane
Speaker 1: Slider's life in Dallas in the North Texas area. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get to that. But why don't we Why don't
Speaker 1: we start with with the Cowboys and let me jump
Speaker 1: in with the first question boys and I'll start here.
Speaker 1: That's how this works. I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw out a bit of a conspiracy theory
Speaker 1: for you, Jane, as someone who's right plug. Greg by
Speaker 1: the way, now posing up a side in and none
Speaker 1: of the lounge chairs. Like we just we just went
Speaker 1: through a workplace behavior meeting. Greg. We have a lot
Speaker 1: of personal space between us. There's a lot of personal space,
Speaker 1: all right. Anyway, Um, Jason Witten, here's my conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1: You tell me if it's off base or inappropriate, or
Speaker 1: leave the pool if it gets bad. I'm curious what
Speaker 1: his roles in the offense. And here's the theory. This
Speaker 1: is an all time Cowboy, one of the franchises Shining Suns.
Speaker 1: And my theory is that Big d did a big
Speaker 1: favor for Mr Witten, who was, let's be fair, not
Speaker 1: doing well in his broadcasting role, and here comes Jerry
Speaker 1: to save the day. Hey, we'll get you out of
Speaker 1: that situation. You could leave bow out gracefully, come here,
Speaker 1: work with the kids, work, come for the summer camps
Speaker 1: training camp, and then we could have a nice little
Speaker 1: retirement on the eve of week one and he'll never
Speaker 1: play another snap for the Cowboys. And this has all
Speaker 1: been a nice situation helping out one of the great players. Well,
Speaker 1: before I dive into that, I mean, pink Pony was
Speaker 1: such an amazing name for the conspiracy theory. Where are
Speaker 1: we calling this theory. Wow, I would work shop at
Speaker 1: You don't have to come put it now, you've got
Speaker 1: time to, you know, put it out there in Brandon
Speaker 1: Silver Pony. But she's showing the bona fides right now.
Speaker 1: As So here's what I'll say. It's it's not a
Speaker 1: bad theory, and it's one I too thought about, but
Speaker 1: I was there. Scott Hanson of course comes to Dallas.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to go to drinks on the patio.
Speaker 1: He wants to take him to Star in Frisco for
Speaker 1: a tour of the facility on my day off. So
Speaker 1: of course I did that that right. So this was
Speaker 1: right after Combine when we found out that Witten's coming back,
Speaker 1: and I kid you not, Jason went was up there
Speaker 1: like a little kid at school with his his books,
Speaker 1: ready to get back to work. And when you talk
Speaker 1: to him, there's this intensity, but there's also this humility.
Speaker 1: You know, he lost his locker, Zach Martin has it now.
Speaker 1: He says he doesn't have his parking spot anymore. And
Speaker 1: when I see him in practice, he's out there barking
Speaker 1: the way that he did when he played. They say
Speaker 1: that they're going to take him off the field and
Speaker 1: let Blake Jarwin and Dalton Shoulton. Those guys play, He's
Speaker 1: gonna make it difficult on them. He's come back completely
Speaker 1: in shape, and so I know everyone says that about
Speaker 1: training camp, but right shaved head, we can unpack that
Speaker 1: here in a little bit. Uh. It showed him that
Speaker 1: he's a warrior, you know. I think he was looking
Speaker 1: to clean cut with the hair, so I think he
Speaker 1: needed that to be warrior us when he came back.
Speaker 1: But I've been watching practice and we're not allowed to
Speaker 1: talk anymore about certain things that we see. We got
Speaker 1: a little note from the pr department, but how they're
Speaker 1: using him is different. Right now, I'll just leave you
Speaker 1: with that. Well, and also making a lot less money,
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's humbling, but he's an
Speaker 1: athlete who got that experience of what am I going
Speaker 1: to do for the rest of my life that can
Speaker 1: give me even a fraction of the satisfaction that playing
Speaker 1: football did, And he didn't like it. I don't even
Speaker 1: even if you was getting better reviews and money named
Speaker 1: football and was like a little more comfortable, You're never
Speaker 1: going to replace that juice. So it's sort of something
Speaker 1: like someone that had a near death experience that's coming
Speaker 1: back and they're enjoying the life that they had. I mean,
Speaker 1: he knows if this is his only year playing football again,
Speaker 1: like he's probably never gonna do anything for the rest
Speaker 1: of his life that gives him that level of like satisfaction.
Speaker 1: And so to his credit, he's gonna enjoy the crap
Speaker 1: out of it. But I don't really buy that he's
Speaker 1: gonna be any faster than he was two years ago
Speaker 1: when he couldn't move. So he he'll help them and
Speaker 1: be a blocking tight end. It's hard to imagine to
Speaker 1: difference maker. But you know, I did ask him that
Speaker 1: I said, and it wasn't disrespect any of our analysts here,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, they've got a pretty cushy job. You know,
Speaker 1: you get six months out of the year, like you're
Speaker 1: really they really don't call him these guys to do
Speaker 1: a ton of stuff. You're making great money. He's just
Speaker 1: so good at putting in the work and seeing it translate,
Speaker 1: and I think he struggles. I didn't think the situation
Speaker 1: was right from an ESPN either. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: kind of been with Testatory and Booger and uh Lisa.
Speaker 1: I just felt like there's so many voices and the
Speaker 1: way they disconnected the Fox like d team with which
Speaker 1: is what I mean. Troy kind of like paid his dues,
Speaker 1: the barbers, They paid their due. So I think it
Speaker 1: wasn't the best situation for him, But I truly believe
Speaker 1: he loved football, missed it so much. And he literally
Speaker 1: told me like there was there was still something in
Speaker 1: him that he had unfinished business. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: talk to Dez Bryant right now, he'll tell you the
Speaker 1: exact same thing. There's something about Dallas. These guys like
Speaker 1: don't want to leave. DeMarco didn't want to leave, DeMarcus
Speaker 1: where didn't want to leave. Different everywhere else. We cover
Speaker 1: them differently. The country thinks about them differently. They're the
Speaker 1: glamour team. Like if there's a reality show outside of
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks, it would always be the Cowboys all or Nothing.
Speaker 1: It was a great series on Amazon product. How could
Speaker 1: you ever go cover like the Jaguars or something after this?
Speaker 1: I mean everything with the Cowboys top flight and including
Speaker 1: I imagine the reporter experience. It's different. Even when I
Speaker 1: go to New Orleans. I mean it's such a smaller market.
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't even been to New Orleans at
Speaker 1: all this offseason for O T A S what you
Speaker 1: name it. And they've made some good moves um in
Speaker 1: New Orleans, but I haven't been there to talk about it.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys, I've said, have been actually really quiet and
Speaker 1: seemingly as functional as they've ever been. And the since
Speaker 1: there's no drama Queens, they've actually I think they've loaded
Speaker 1: up quietly with some talent in free agency, Randall Cobb.
Speaker 1: I don't talk enough about what we've seen from him,
Speaker 1: and then the uh, the the running back they just
Speaker 1: got from Memphis, the fourth rounder Tony why I'm drawing
Speaker 1: a blank, right, We'll be learning more about him soon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I I literally like they are functional and
Speaker 1: I think they're actually going to be competitive this year.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you the way that he is so
Speaker 1: easily just acclimated that locker room like he you feel
Speaker 1: like he wanted to be in Dallas. And when he
Speaker 1: told us a story that he went up to Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott a NFL honors and said, come and get me
Speaker 1: if you get the chance, it was a sense that
Speaker 1: he wants to be there, and because I guess because
Speaker 1: he played quarterback to at Kentucky. Dak was telling us
Speaker 1: that he's even sort of he speaks Ducks language and
Speaker 1: they're communicating kind of the way I'm Mary Cooper does.
Speaker 1: So that's what those are, the science that tell me
Speaker 1: that they're actually functional. Finally, there is a thread that
Speaker 1: connects the Cowboys in the Saints and has for years
Speaker 1: overtly but also through Whisper Channel, and that's Sean Payton.
Speaker 1: Here we conspiracy. I just want to ask your opinion,
Speaker 1: because you're closer to these two teams than anyone else
Speaker 1: at our network. Let's say we all live to be
Speaker 1: nineties something year olds years old. Will there be a
Speaker 1: time where Sean Payton is the head coach of the
Speaker 1: Cowboys in your opinion, I don't care when. Why wouldn't
Speaker 1: be shot? I think it's something that's always been in
Speaker 1: the back of his head. He's got a great relationship
Speaker 1: with Steven Jones and Jerry Um. They would Tony Romo
Speaker 1: without him, right. That's a great story when he tells
Speaker 1: it on the plane about when Jerry came over and
Speaker 1: asked him about Tony Romo, and I mean he literally
Speaker 1: turned him into the air apparent. Um. But I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna want a little bit more of which I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be kind of like Bill Parcel's, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be his last stop. I think if Sean doesn't
Speaker 1: sign a lifetime deal in New Orleans, I think you
Speaker 1: could see him going to a team that he feels
Speaker 1: the challenge of flipping over certain guys like that they
Speaker 1: need that. I mean, that's what Belichick did. I mean,
Speaker 1: just look at Belichick, Gruden, and Parcels move and then
Speaker 1: you can sort of dictate the life planned, the life
Speaker 1: map for Sean Payton. In my opinion, based on some
Speaker 1: of our discussions, he was putting it out there Sean
Speaker 1: Payton through reporters that there could have been a time
Speaker 1: that he could have moved a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: but that was before they had two great seasons and
Speaker 1: then the scenes gave him like all the money in
Speaker 1: the world. I don't think great leverage for contracts, believe it.
Speaker 1: Let me paint a picture. Here. We are sitting pool side,
Speaker 1: four of us being scorched by the sun, and a
Speaker 1: staff worker came over to open a massive umbrella that
Speaker 1: covers only Greg's visage. Well, Eric, I don't wanted it, Like,
Speaker 1: why would we say, why would I say it was
Speaker 1: a little on the nose. Yeah, that's true, beautiful. I
Speaker 1: feel like you guys should actually move this summer. You
Speaker 1: guys should do a summer series and do poolside chats,
Speaker 1: you get sponsored. You guys could probably get some free
Speaker 1: rooms and free drinks here. Yes, I don't think you
Speaker 1: guys are thinking. I think you're too myopic about the
Speaker 1: way you do your podcast. Conspiracies will be in the name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. Let's stick with the Cowboys
Speaker 1: because you said your gig is there at the Star
Speaker 1: Power structure with the Cowboys. All right, Jara turning seventy
Speaker 1: seven in October? What what is the situation there now? Like? What?
Speaker 1: And do you sense a changing of the guard over
Speaker 1: the last couple of years? And much when I see
Speaker 1: sports talk to you in Dallas, I would sort of
Speaker 1: reference some of those things I was seeing. And Jerry
Speaker 1: does not like any uh, he doesn't like anyone, alluding
Speaker 1: to the fact that he's not in control anymore. But
Speaker 1: to me, when they said goodbye to Does Bryant, that
Speaker 1: was Stephen Jones handprint all over it, and I've covered does.
Speaker 1: You guys don't have a great relationship with does. It
Speaker 1: needed to be done because it got them a Marie Cooper. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: it cleared up some couch space and the locker room.
Speaker 1: Just the focus was really kind of on the game
Speaker 1: plan and that he was part of that last group.
Speaker 1: Tony Romo de Marco Mori names it was a tough
Speaker 1: decision to make, but had Stephen Jones all over And
Speaker 1: I think when we talk about this functional it's not
Speaker 1: a slap in Jerry Jones's face, but I think Stevens
Speaker 1: sort of moving this team forward making those difficult decisions.
Speaker 1: I mean, he would get so emotionally attached to some
Speaker 1: of these players and that's what was getting them in
Speaker 1: trouble because they were backloading. The money was killing them
Speaker 1: in the cap space, and then these guys weren't able
Speaker 1: to play. And I don't believe Wit would be back
Speaker 1: if Witt didn't come back on the dally K back
Speaker 1: saying with Shaun Lee, well, they seem to be more
Speaker 1: rational and less um emotional about their decision making. And
Speaker 1: I think when I look at the last sort of
Speaker 1: like twelve months of what this team has done, I
Speaker 1: love the way they're building and you look at the
Speaker 1: off season they bring Travis Frederick back if things look
Speaker 1: like they're going pretty well there. They bolstered their defensive
Speaker 1: line a little bit. Is there any reason to believe
Speaker 1: this team will not be better than they were last
Speaker 1: year when they closed out this season as one of
Speaker 1: the best teams in the NFL. I'd be absolutely shocked
Speaker 1: for the reasons that you just mentioned. The problem that
Speaker 1: they had I felt like for the longest time was
Speaker 1: because they're playing all these aging veterans, they weren't able
Speaker 1: to really develop depth behind these guys. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: now they've got They've got depth all across the offensive line.
Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Looney was a hell of a center
Speaker 1: last year, and now you've got him as a backup
Speaker 1: trush Frederick, got Connor McGovern and Connor Williams that are
Speaker 1: flex players on the offensive line. And then the one
Speaker 1: area they really need to beef up though, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: is still the cornerback, because I mean, is the safety
Speaker 1: position still something they can They've been struggled a little. Eric.
Speaker 1: I'm not demanding that you what about this conspiracy theory, though,
Speaker 1: here's the reason why to believe that they won't be
Speaker 1: as good because they're never as good as they were
Speaker 1: the year before, whenever they've had a good season, and
Speaker 1: does that have to do with this year? Theory, there's
Speaker 1: been no back to back NFC. My theory is that
Speaker 1: in Dallas, the fans and the team and Jerry and
Speaker 1: the ownership and even maybe Jason Garrett who's on the
Speaker 1: last year, they seem to really like be pleased with
Speaker 1: themselves and think that they're going to start at the
Speaker 1: point that they left. Uh the season or if you
Speaker 1: had told me that the two thousand eight Cowboys or
Speaker 1: was it the two thousand nine coming up that season
Speaker 1: where they were the one seed would have not made
Speaker 1: the playoffs, would have been a disappointment, Like I would
Speaker 1: have never believe that team was as loaded as ever.
Speaker 1: But it's almost like in Dallas there, as you said,
Speaker 1: no one wants to leave because they're treated like such demigods.
Speaker 1: It's the NFL where there's such small margins that I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but that it's been impossible.
Speaker 1: They literally haven't done it to repeat two years of
Speaker 1: success back to back. It's true years. Uh. They sell
Speaker 1: optimism well in Dallas, and I'm drinking the kool aid
Speaker 1: just based on what I've seen at practice so far
Speaker 1: and having covered them when they were so incredibly as
Speaker 1: functional for so many years. I mean, think about it,
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett's got to be more hungry motivated he's ever
Speaker 1: been because he's playing on his last year's contract. Dak
Speaker 1: wants that contract, needs to validate it. Zekiel it got
Speaker 1: his fifth year option, but they're gonna I'd be shocked
Speaker 1: if that deal gets done this summer. You've got a
Speaker 1: more Cooper that's coming up on a deal, and so
Speaker 1: I just feel like the timing feels right. The only
Speaker 1: thing that if I'm if I'm a fan and I'm concerned,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at their schedule that's six game stretch starting
Speaker 1: in late November three December. That's a bear. I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a hard time with that and the
Speaker 1: fact they have no back to back home games this year. Alright. Finally,
Speaker 1: Jane and all great info. You can follow Jane at
Speaker 1: Slater NFL. You can also follower on the Graham What
Speaker 1: is your Graham handle at Jane Ashley Slater Quite an experience,
Speaker 1: by the way, and this is Yacht's cowboy hats. So
Speaker 1: let's I guess so many questions about my gram letne
Speaker 1: So I always just feel like it's just my friends
Speaker 1: watching and always forget that it's like coaches, GMS, agents,
Speaker 1: bosses internally tell us more about discussion. The Dallas Arlington
Speaker 1: debutante society that you inhabit. Arlington is not who's what
Speaker 1: I see, boats, bikinis, beer, buddies, just the good life,
Speaker 1: and you're a part of it when you're flying high.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna dig in a little deep for you, guys.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know this. That was I
Speaker 1: was married when I was twenty six divorce. I had
Speaker 1: five jobs to pay the bills as recently as six
Speaker 1: years ago. So now I've like I'm in the sweet
Speaker 1: spot in my life. I don't need a man to
Speaker 1: financially support me. I love my job, and so I
Speaker 1: truly like adopt live breathe preach the yellow lifestyle, and
Speaker 1: it rubs people the wrong way. So it robs people
Speaker 1: the wrong way. But I'm like, I wake up every morning,
Speaker 1: I want to put my feet on the ground. I'm
Speaker 1: generally excited that I got a bonus day, Like I
Speaker 1: believe that bus. I could literally talk about that with
Speaker 1: you guys, but it's so funny. It's like they're I
Speaker 1: was like, you're living your best point, You're fluxing on
Speaker 1: the ground, like no, I'm just I hope I inspire
Speaker 1: you all to go out there and live your best life. Well,
Speaker 1: we have talked about this at the Owners Means. We
Speaker 1: had a conversation about you have lived a pretty colorful
Speaker 1: life in the past, and you kind of like, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm in all of like your ambition, Like you at
Speaker 1: one point you want to sell real estate on the side,
Speaker 1: and you're I can call you want to better myself?
Speaker 1: You can get this. You understand this more than anyone. Oh,
Speaker 1: I've never been quite the accomplisher, I will say for
Speaker 1: the sake of the stake of transparency. Occasionally on the
Speaker 1: show we ban what we consider to be uh in
Speaker 1: our world phrases that we were through with and I
Speaker 1: around six or seven months ago banned hashtag yolo. But
Speaker 1: I'm I will do I also have the power to
Speaker 1: lift the bin and for you because the way that
Speaker 1: it seems like a consistent drumbeat that's not a flash
Speaker 1: in the pan type scenario. It is lifted. Yolo is
Speaker 1: lifted for you. We can rebrand my lifestyle you could
Speaker 1: do that. I don't think you need to think what
Speaker 1: you've said here is great, because I think if you
Speaker 1: don't know you, or if you're just kind of crabby
Speaker 1: about social media, people see that and they think, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's that self promotion or that's such out their life.
Speaker 1: But what you're saying is you, and I think all
Speaker 1: of us can speak to this on on some level,
Speaker 1: is we're reaching apart in our lives. We're either approaching
Speaker 1: were approaching forty like Dan, or we're over it and
Speaker 1: we have a job that we love and we have
Speaker 1: a life that we love. So why not be honest
Speaker 1: about it your best life. I approached some other people.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're down the barrel of age four, so
Speaker 1: enjoy it, because nothing's guaranteed. If you're not going to
Speaker 1: enjoy it now, it's who knows. I flew out here
Speaker 1: on Sunday. I was supposed to leave today. I reached
Speaker 1: out to a couple of my friends. I'm gonna yellow
Speaker 1: until Sunday. I'm just staying out here. Children in the
Speaker 1: next six to twelve months. Either of that. They will
Speaker 1: also help with the lifestyle. Just yeah. I have no
Speaker 1: emotional attachments to animals. Or others. So yeah, nothing, you
Speaker 1: would have a hard time sessler lifestyle right now. I
Speaker 1: don't think my current arrangement, but lying in bed of
Speaker 1: his eyes open tonight, staring at the ceiling, thinking about
Speaker 1: how we could have your life right now. Although Ricky Williams,
Speaker 1: when I worked at Longhorn Network, he had a similar gypsy,
Speaker 1: but he would tell his girlfriend or his significant at
Speaker 1: the time, I'm just going to Italy for a month,
Speaker 1: and he did it a free spirit. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: we gotta go, we gotta get back to the semi.
Speaker 1: We're having a great time. We'll have to do this again.
Speaker 1: Because Jane, you're awesome. You match the sensibility. We don't
Speaker 1: get to live the life you live, but I would
Speaker 1: encourage you too. I hope that if we've walked away
Speaker 1: from anything this conversation, I hope that in six months
Speaker 1: we're talking about your yoload summer. I just got like
Speaker 1: that next five days while Jane is still around in town,
Speaker 1: we just give up all of our responsibilities. Uh sorry, kids,
Speaker 1: yellow a little bit more in life. I think I've
Speaker 1: encouraged her. Yeah, she's been yellowing a lot, a positive
Speaker 1: impact on her. You've taken her under your wing. All
Speaker 1: the haters she's flying though, that little bird is flying.
Speaker 1: All the haters don't give Jane a hard time. That
Speaker 1: includes inside our own building. We're going to deal with
Speaker 1: some of them right after this. Jane's later NFL Network follower.
Speaker 1: She's the best. Thanks Jane, guys, Thanks Jane Side pool side.
Speaker 1: All right, that was awesome, Jane Slater, Thank you again. Jane.
Speaker 1: We have to have Jane on again because she has
Speaker 1: and I imagine our listeners are going to embrace Jane.
Speaker 1: She has a certain qua that connects with us and
Speaker 1: the audience. Wow, you almost nailed that. But how what
Speaker 1: is it? No? I think I had it, Mark? What
Speaker 1: about her? Jane bravely living her best life on Instagram?
Speaker 1: And I was surprised. She said it was something she's
Speaker 1: trying to teach. He's trying to impart that on people.
Speaker 1: One day. Do you believe you will be in that position? Well?
Speaker 1: I hope to be. I mean, she's certainly um. You
Speaker 1: know you spend a little bit of time with her.
Speaker 1: I think number one and she's got self awareness. She
Speaker 1: has the ability to change your opinion about her social
Speaker 1: media footprint. To use a corporate word, it's certainly changed
Speaker 1: my one. I didn't know where I thought. This seems
Speaker 1: like a yacht writing, leisure seeking individual that occasionally checks
Speaker 1: in for work. But when you hang with her for
Speaker 1: a little bit, she true Lee is embracing this lifestyle,
Speaker 1: and it gives me hope that maybe Sunday I will
Speaker 1: be riding boats and living the way that she does
Speaker 1: in such a high lifestyle. I hope to seek that
Speaker 1: same thing. When our grandparents were her age, the idea
Speaker 1: of work hard, play hard, it was almost strictly reserved
Speaker 1: for men. And a person like Jane is a work hard,
Speaker 1: play hard person and she she also is a fan
Speaker 1: of the show. She says that she's a listener and frankly, um,
Speaker 1: that's all we really need, or at least I'm speaking
Speaker 1: for myself, that's you know, we're gonna be fans of Ricky.
Speaker 1: Do you aspire to have an Instagram on that level? Um?
Speaker 1: Getting their mind's pretty good. I mean it's fine. That
Speaker 1: was a political answer. I feel like the real Ricky
Speaker 1: answer is you're like mine is better? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I I live you know, I live hard. Everyone all
Speaker 1: the listeners check out both accounts and get back to
Speaker 1: Erica on Twitter at Ricky Hollywood, who has the better
Speaker 1: Graham account? Slater v temposse. I'm excited about that. All right,
Speaker 1: let's not spin forward. About ninety minutes later, the sun
Speaker 1: was out now was really starting to heat up. I'm
Speaker 1: just talking about the conversation, guys, dens eyes locking into
Speaker 1: mine pool side chat with Peter Schreeger pool side. All right,
Speaker 1: here we are back at the pool, time for more
Speaker 1: pool side chats. And we got another great guest. Very
Speaker 1: excited to have him, you know, senior national writer for
Speaker 1: Fox Sports dot Com, Good Morning Football co host, also
Speaker 1: the co author of the New York Times bestseller Out
Speaker 1: of the Blue with a Victor Cruz story, which Kirkus
Speaker 1: Reviews called a quote above average sports autobiography around the NFL.
Speaker 1: This is great, guys, I love it. The scene here
Speaker 1: outside the pool is something. Well. Yeah, we've we've had
Speaker 1: some families join us since Jane's interviews. Some other alcohol
Speaker 1: has been drunk out here. It's pretty great. But who
Speaker 1: has more jobs than than Peter? I mean, you didn't
Speaker 1: even mention, like Sideline reporter good Morning Football right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's things are things are good? Is the off season
Speaker 1: and to be with you guys here pool side, with
Speaker 1: all of us wearing shirts and ties. Everyone else is
Speaker 1: barely dressed as fantastic when you have so much to
Speaker 1: get to um Peter, of course, yeah. I mentioned Good
Speaker 1: Morning Football, who we view kind of as our our
Speaker 1: cool cousin that lives in Manhattan. Our podcast. There's there's
Speaker 1: some d NA, so we're happy to whenever we could
Speaker 1: have somebody on from that show. It's great speaking of
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I feel like we we started the
Speaker 1: form format of having sort of four people with good
Speaker 1: chemistry featured on both NFL networking under the NFL shield.
Speaker 1: You guys came along us second and have excellent chemistry.
Speaker 1: To hear that a lot. Let's say there to be
Speaker 1: sort of a royal rumble situation, the four of us
Speaker 1: versus the four of you. I want you to put
Speaker 1: your analyst hat on. Not you're not the one. You're
Speaker 1: part of that foursome again, right, We're like from an
Speaker 1: analyst angle, who wins that fight. You've got some strength,
Speaker 1: You've got some weaknesses, so do we. Here's what you
Speaker 1: guys have that we don't have at the moment. You
Speaker 1: have this incredible international fan base that I feel like
Speaker 1: would be doing all sorts of things on the back
Speaker 1: end that we would be hooligans. We would not be
Speaker 1: ready for this. I feel like the return buckle action
Speaker 1: from your fans in Iceland all of this stuff. Right now,
Speaker 1: we're very limited to the thirty two fan bases and
Speaker 1: you know, the people who get the cable services that
Speaker 1: have the NFL network and watching our show. But you
Speaker 1: guys gets a universal and Sessler, I'm not growing with you,
Speaker 1: bro four on four though four on four you guys
Speaker 1: have a little more size, a little more size with
Speaker 1: Nate not across the board and us in good shape.
Speaker 1: Was just overall overall, I'm saying, yeah, no, I think
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I think but I've been listening
Speaker 1: to your podcast for years, and I think there is
Speaker 1: a place in sports, whether it be us talking or
Speaker 1: when I was like Simmons and Ryan Rassilio talking, like
Speaker 1: it's okay to just talk sports and not have a
Speaker 1: structured format and run down if here are a hundred
Speaker 1: things we have to hit click, click, clicklick, and if
Speaker 1: someone wants to interject and give another comment, it's okay
Speaker 1: to go a minute longer and hit that topic. And
Speaker 1: get off tangent, which I think is kind of breaking
Speaker 1: them hold of what the traditional sports television show is.
Speaker 1: As Joe Bingo says, famula lips to God's exactly. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get into it because uh, Peter has really plugged
Speaker 1: in in the NFL um and we want to hit
Speaker 1: on a bunch of topics. We're gonna go right down
Speaker 1: the list, very structured. Yeah, that's just like I just
Speaker 1: real quick, no time for any real messing around. But no,
Speaker 1: I want to start. Let's go with the top of
Speaker 1: the top right now, because I know you talked about
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes on Good Morning Football a lot, how much
Speaker 1: you were kind of ahead of the train a little
Speaker 1: bit about how good uh he would be, uh, and
Speaker 1: certainly he was last year as the m v P.
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago on the show, we did
Speaker 1: a segment called come Down Players of the Year. I
Speaker 1: throughout my homes is my come down player of the
Speaker 1: year in the sense that I drew a parallel to
Speaker 1: eighty four Marinos season. After that, Marino was still an
Speaker 1: All Pro and an elite at the position, but eighty
Speaker 1: four was just special. And that's kind of how I
Speaker 1: predict the Mahomes season will go, but you don't necessarily
Speaker 1: agree with that. I'm doubling down on my Homes, I think,
Speaker 1: and everyone's like, well, statistically now, I think, No, I
Speaker 1: think statistically he could be as good, if not better,
Speaker 1: this year. He has a full off season with Andy.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing everyone's gonna point to, Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: might not be on the field, and they lost Chris
Speaker 1: Connolly and Crema. It is so rare from one of
Speaker 1: these offenses that puts up these historic numbers, which they
Speaker 1: did to also not have the entire brain trust of
Speaker 1: the offensive coaching staff taken from them. So unlike the
Speaker 1: Eagles a year ago, where De Filippo goes and Frank
Speaker 1: reichos and now we're dealing with new coaches. In this case,
Speaker 1: Eric b Enemy is back, Kafka is back, the head
Speaker 1: coach is back. And I'm telling you, I talked to
Speaker 1: guys in Kansas City and they're like, Bro, you have
Speaker 1: no idea what he's about to do to the league
Speaker 1: this year, which gets me so excited because if the
Speaker 1: standard is fifty touchdowns and no look passes an m
Speaker 1: VP and Offensive Player of the Year, what's that mean?
Speaker 1: It could be even better. I don't know what that
Speaker 1: is well that I think that's a great point because
Speaker 1: Mahomes it was so far ahead of almost anything that
Speaker 1: we've seen for a first year starter that it's almost
Speaker 1: it's almost like underrated, Like people are like, wow, imagine
Speaker 1: what Baker Mayfield could do this year in his second year.
Speaker 1: It's like they're basically the same age. And Mahomes came
Speaker 1: into the league as the best player in the league,
Speaker 1: and some of the things that he did it was
Speaker 1: just like never seen before, So like, why couldn't he
Speaker 1: get better? We would expect pretty much any other starter
Speaker 1: going into his second year as a starter to get better.
Speaker 1: He more than any quarterback at least that I think
Speaker 1: we've i've ever seen since we've been covering it. He
Speaker 1: like breaks every rule or every boundary. That's absolutely And
Speaker 1: here's the other part. He played baseball most of his
Speaker 1: high school. Like he's still getting full off seasons of
Speaker 1: learning how to play football, which is insane. But you're right.
Speaker 1: We do the stuff on our show and it's June
Speaker 1: and July and May where we're trying to make up
Speaker 1: any sort of contents, And one of the conversations was
Speaker 1: which which third year quarterback will have the best season, Trabinsky,
Speaker 1: Watson or Mahomes. And I was like, downright insulted how
Speaker 1: we could even put Watson in Trabisky in the same
Speaker 1: conversation as Mahomes, who might end up being the best
Speaker 1: quarterback we've ever seen where he plays. So it's like
Speaker 1: he was that good in year two, and I think
Speaker 1: Marino's the only comparison when it. Roethlisberger was a great
Speaker 1: on a team they won the Super Bowl. All that
Speaker 1: we've seen that happened Russell Wilson, but no one individually
Speaker 1: has been as good as that dude was last year.
Speaker 1: I've never seen a precedent, or at least I can't
Speaker 1: think of any going through any quarterback ever where they
Speaker 1: came in and early in their career they either shattered
Speaker 1: or threatened all time passing records, had a singular NFL season,
Speaker 1: and then was able to repeat it the next year.
Speaker 1: I know. And that's the thing. I think he could
Speaker 1: be even bet And I don't want to because I
Speaker 1: don't know what I don't know, but what I'm here,
Speaker 1: and there's an assumption in Kansas City that at least
Speaker 1: for the majority of this season number ten, Tyreek Ko
Speaker 1: will be there. So we've heard that leaked out a
Speaker 1: little places where they're saying, oh, well, they're going where
Speaker 1: everyone else is under the assumption it's gonna have to
Speaker 1: be Sammy Watkins. He thinks that there's some team like
Speaker 1: teammates and no, it's more just the feeling around the
Speaker 1: league is that we're that. Kay. Now, look, the NFL
Speaker 1: can come out and say, just like with Ezekiel Elliott,
Speaker 1: like here's six games, whatever it is. But this thought
Speaker 1: that you know, Tyreek suspense is a definite from what
Speaker 1: I'm here, there's no definite in either way yet. So
Speaker 1: a fair bet that he'll be on the field or
Speaker 1: not I think at this point, and that's fine, But
Speaker 1: there is also that he might be on the field.
Speaker 1: Well the chief case, that's a totally different story. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs have obviously left the door open, and that's that's something,
Speaker 1: uh that we we've been talking around the show for
Speaker 1: a few weeks now that it's just kind of been
Speaker 1: something that's been hanging out there and at some point
Speaker 1: we're gonna get some type of resolution. But there's no
Speaker 1: reason to think that Tyreek Hill won't be on the
Speaker 1: team at some point, Uh, let's pivot here, because you
Speaker 1: were all in, Like I said, on Mahomes before. Mahomes
Speaker 1: through fifty touchdowns and through for five thousand yards, took
Speaker 1: the league by storm, transformed the Chiefs into a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl contender. Is this guy that just got picked number
Speaker 1: one by the Cardinals Arizona rolled the dice in a bit,
Speaker 1: you know, in a ballsy way. You don't want to
Speaker 1: give him too much credit because they drafted a quarterback
Speaker 1: number ten and then bailed on it. But it's ballsy
Speaker 1: in the sense that if this guy is as good
Speaker 1: as they think he is, they transformed their franchise. You're
Speaker 1: feeling bullish on Kyler Murray making making a huge impact,
Speaker 1: a Mahomesyan impact. No, not the status wise, but I
Speaker 1: think the first six weeks of the Arizona Cardinal schedule Mahomes,
Speaker 1: I mean, Murray's gonna do stuff that is gonna blow
Speaker 1: our mind, and then there's gonna be a book on him,
Speaker 1: and then there's gonna be potential injuries. But out of
Speaker 1: the gate, I could see the Cardinals being four and
Speaker 1: to five and one, just because Cliff and Kyler are
Speaker 1: aware of what they're about to do. And the confidence
Speaker 1: in that building is that they have a leg up
Speaker 1: on something, and if it just because there's no film
Speaker 1: on it and you're not seeing preseason or training camp,
Speaker 1: they're about to do some stuff that the NFL hasn't
Speaker 1: seen before, in a very much similar fashion to the
Speaker 1: way Griffin took the league by storm, and in a
Speaker 1: bit of a way how Chip Kelly took the league
Speaker 1: by storm, which is really the way Andy Reid started
Speaker 1: the last three season. Smith he was just kind of
Speaker 1: ahead of the game. That's it. So maybe there's a
Speaker 1: catch up to it. But um, Kyler is awesome. I
Speaker 1: think Kyler has got one of the best arms in
Speaker 1: the league. And to the same point, I just made
Speaker 1: my home. Kyler Murray is a two sport athlete. He's
Speaker 1: never played football in the spring in his life, like
Speaker 1: this is his first season ever learning in offense for
Speaker 1: an entire offseason. So they took us. And I was
Speaker 1: not overly critical of Josh Rosen throught this pre draft process,
Speaker 1: but everyone was treating Rosen like he was worthy of
Speaker 1: that same conversation. Here's what I would post to you guys.
Speaker 1: If Steve Kime doesn't trade up and takes Josh Rosen
Speaker 1: as the fourth quarterback and the tenth overall pick and
Speaker 1: gives up a third rounder to get him. Is Josh
Speaker 1: Rosen a top ten pick? Is Josh Rosen a top
Speaker 1: fifteen pick? Is Josh Rosen a first round pick? We
Speaker 1: only think of him as a top ten pick because
Speaker 1: of the team went up and got him. But we're
Speaker 1: not so certain. I don't think Miami was taking say,
Speaker 1: and he could have been we don't know. He could
Speaker 1: have been Brady Quinn or Hey, he could have gone
Speaker 1: in the second round and then there wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: this whole hubub about this. It could have been just
Speaker 1: like when wearing the Smith sweater or Jimmy Clawson. It
Speaker 1: took him all the next year because they're like, all right,
Speaker 1: but this thought that you know, Josh Roseen top ten quarterback.
Speaker 1: It's true, he's top ten quarterback, but the team that
Speaker 1: drafted another quarterback was also the team that traded up
Speaker 1: to get him in the top ten. So we don't know.
Speaker 1: Because he was such a polarizing prospect, and some teams
Speaker 1: it seemed like, would not even do their homework on him,
Speaker 1: had no interest in him, and some teams were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this guy's the most pro ready quarterback. Obviously we like him,
Speaker 1: and then he was on the market. And again I'm
Speaker 1: not trashing Josh Rosen. I'm rooting for Josh Rosen. I
Speaker 1: think he's actually great character of the league. He actually
Speaker 1: speaks his mind. It's rare and it's nice. But he
Speaker 1: essentially was traded for Andy Isabella this year on the
Speaker 1: open market. Speaking of like that is that's sort of
Speaker 1: concern I'd have with Murray. Murray is exciting because just
Speaker 1: the combination of the arm and that level of running
Speaker 1: is I don't know if who's coming into the league
Speaker 1: quite like that, because I think people watching their practices
Speaker 1: are just like Derek Anderson. Ye the Baker Mayfield armor better,
Speaker 1: but but the with the running. But there was some
Speaker 1: talk here from reporters that have been at Cardinal's practice
Speaker 1: that they're in big time concerns with Andy Isabella and
Speaker 1: Kim Butler, that they it's like counting on rookie wide receivers,
Speaker 1: especially one from U mass and one that fell to
Speaker 1: the fourth round, that it hasn't taken long even at
Speaker 1: offseason practices to be like, oh maybe maybe like these
Speaker 1: guys aren't gonna be ready, even if Kyler Murray's ready.
Speaker 1: We're talking about a team that had one of the
Speaker 1: worst offensive lines, one of the worst wide receiver corps,
Speaker 1: one of the worst tight end rooms in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I know, and I think he can cover it all up.
Speaker 1: I think he's I honestly think yeah. I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be a sensation this year. And I want you
Speaker 1: to enjoy it. I want you guys to do that
Speaker 1: stuff like good morning football, like coming up with nicknames.
Speaker 1: Maybe he could be right a spice. One very quick
Speaker 1: question for you, and you can keep it to one word.
Speaker 1: When you look around the circle here, four of us,
Speaker 1: which one do you respect the most? Um, it's a
Speaker 1: big question, Greg whoa there's only one that is absolutely
Speaker 1: would not have asked that question had I knew you
Speaker 1: were going to go in that direction. That doesn't help
Speaker 1: my means or my angling at all. Actually, now that
Speaker 1: you answered it that way, we're gonna have to dig
Speaker 1: in hard on the next top one. There's a there's
Speaker 1: a story that runs in the New York Daily News. Uh,
Speaker 1: here's the headline. Jets have discussed TV personality Peter Schrager
Speaker 1: in general manager search colon sources Now, this, I imagine
Speaker 1: was a completely weird slash uncomfortable situation for you, because
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you're a big part of the headlines.
Speaker 1: Minisha Meadow, who wrote that piece, wrote that you would
Speaker 1: be contacted for assistance on prospective candidates. Is the Jets
Speaker 1: look to replace Mike mccagnan. Do you wanna use this
Speaker 1: forum pool side chats to clear the air on that
Speaker 1: whole saga because you were kind of the center of
Speaker 1: the New York media storm for a little bit there.
Speaker 1: Thank you. All right, So the truth the matter is,
Speaker 1: I've known the owner, Christopher Johnson in any way. I
Speaker 1: would know some of the other owners um that I've
Speaker 1: gotten to speak with at the owners meetings combines, and
Speaker 1: I could name those names. I don't have to name
Speaker 1: those names at all. But Uh, this part of the
Speaker 1: story that came out was that I attended Christopher's wedding
Speaker 1: last year. That is true. That was fantasy. It was fancy,
Speaker 1: it was a great wedding. I was gonna say, uh,
Speaker 1: but here's the clarification on that situation. I had met
Speaker 1: Chris Johnson a few months earlier. We hit it off.
Speaker 1: When I say hit it off, it was he watches
Speaker 1: Good Morning Football on the treadmill in the morning, and
Speaker 1: he was nice and we exchanged information whatever fast. For
Speaker 1: a whole months later, he texted me and says, hey,
Speaker 1: I got married a couple of weeks ago, but we're
Speaker 1: doing a little celebration in New York. It's at this hotel.
Speaker 1: If you want to pop by, come on by, bring
Speaker 1: your wife. You're welcome to. We went, We attended, it
Speaker 1: were probably there for sixty minutes. Time saw him and
Speaker 1: his wife said hello, introduced myself, and we moved right
Speaker 1: along little high society popping. It was hey, I've seen
Speaker 1: Gossip Girl. I wanted to be a part of it.
Speaker 1: It was it. This was my moment um. When you
Speaker 1: hear that I'm at the wett you're picturing me being
Speaker 1: the ring bear. So like, it's hard for me to
Speaker 1: deny it. I was at the wedding, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: really the wedding. It was after whatever. Fine, So, uh,
Speaker 1: long story short, we keep in touch whatever, It's fine. Um.
Speaker 1: They reached out to me saying, hey, we might add
Speaker 1: another person to the preseason broadcast booth. I did the
Speaker 1: RAMS last year with Nate Burlison and Andrew Ceciliano. They're like,
Speaker 1: if you know, if you don't want to do the RAMS,
Speaker 1: we'd be interested, but let's, you know, keep those doors open. Fine,
Speaker 1: talk to a lot of people around the league about
Speaker 1: a lot of things. I can assure you that I
Speaker 1: have not been reached out or was not reached out
Speaker 1: about the Jets general manager position. I could also say
Speaker 1: that Minisia's report, he's not necessarily inaccurate because the report
Speaker 1: was that they might reach out to me, that they
Speaker 1: did or not that it was for the GM position.
Speaker 1: About my thoughts, and I'll tell you straight up. On
Speaker 1: our show for three hours a day, I talk about, Hey,
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas will be a potential good GM, or you
Speaker 1: know at Dodd's in Indianapolis is really well respected, he
Speaker 1: might be a guy to look for. Or Terry McDonough
Speaker 1: in Arizona is I got so it wasn't what what
Speaker 1: was crazy? Though? And this is where again nothing against
Speaker 1: the Minisia report because he just put it out there
Speaker 1: and then it was actually it was probably accurate if
Speaker 1: they were considering me. It's because I do you know,
Speaker 1: no guys in that building. Um, they didn't reach out
Speaker 1: to me. But the reaction was so vitriolic. So uh,
Speaker 1: I guess the word is the circus dysfunction, that they
Speaker 1: would think about talking to the fans, mean fans by
Speaker 1: the local New York sports media, by the sports radio,
Speaker 1: that national media national that the Jets must be completely
Speaker 1: completely out of their minds to ask someone who's on
Speaker 1: television talking about football about who they might And I'm
Speaker 1: here to say, I don't think if they were to
Speaker 1: reach out to Ian Rappaport or Adam Schaft or or
Speaker 1: even you guys who treat this stuff like it's life
Speaker 1: and death twenty four seven hours a day, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: be crazy to get a collection of a lot of
Speaker 1: people's thoughts. Here is here is the lead of Menetia's article,
Speaker 1: especially the four of us. Just when you thought things
Speaker 1: couldn't get stranger on one Jet Strive, we present the
Speaker 1: latest head scratcher in the wake of Mike mccagnuant's outstair
Speaker 1: that and we talked about this on the Potoma Jets Fan.
Speaker 1: If you're not but like um, that's rubbed me the
Speaker 1: wrong way, that this rush to to present them in
Speaker 1: a terrible light when it's smart to reach out to
Speaker 1: Peter stregor people that are plugged into the league. I'm
Speaker 1: not kissing as guys like you. It's it's not a
Speaker 1: bad idea. It doesn't make you dysfunctional. And here's the
Speaker 1: other thing. In years past, they've used a consultancy firms.
Speaker 1: So say Corn Ferry is one of these big consultancy firms.
Speaker 1: You pay seven figures and they're gonna bring you the
Speaker 1: same list of names that I will bring you, or
Speaker 1: that Adam Schefter will bring you, or that Jay Glazer
Speaker 1: will bring you, or that you guys will bring Like
Speaker 1: here are the guys who are respected around the league
Speaker 1: that are probably next up for GM positions. Here's one
Speaker 1: in this city. Here's a minority. Can it You probably
Speaker 1: haven't thought over, haven't heard of that it might be good.
Speaker 1: It's so in light of doing what we've done in
Speaker 1: the past and hiring guys that haven't worked out, let's
Speaker 1: try different opinions for free. And often what's innovative is
Speaker 1: laughed at out of the gate. And and you're someone
Speaker 1: that's talking to thirty two different teams everyday, bunkerd in
Speaker 1: person who's with one team, and sometimes those guys don't
Speaker 1: even know what's happening. In the world around them. There
Speaker 1: France Shiss valued and over a billion dollars. It would
Speaker 1: be ridiculous, And we point this out all the time
Speaker 1: to limit the scope of your doing. Does happen. It's
Speaker 1: like you would how do you think your Dadam Schefter
Speaker 1: and Ian and Peter get that information. It's by sharing information.
Speaker 1: That was the thing where I'm annoyed by the way
Speaker 1: that article like starts because Miniche knows that ultimately that
Speaker 1: like information is traded, and it doesn't mean they're just Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do whatever Peter Straeger says, They're gonna Hey,
Speaker 1: maybe we have a specific question about one specific guy
Speaker 1: that you would know, you kind of know. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: know the dirt because you talk inside that billy and
Speaker 1: they're not getting the real scoop of what's inside. But
Speaker 1: it was happening all the time. That's how they were dolting.
Speaker 1: That's how the game works. Love No, but honestly, like
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, you know, I get to
Speaker 1: go on sideline work for Fox. I'm in the building
Speaker 1: every Friday, and I'm in since six am in the
Speaker 1: morning because I do Good Morning Football from the buildings.
Speaker 1: So if I'm doing sidelines for a Panthers Buccaneers game.
Speaker 1: I'm in Carolina, it's exam and oftentimes Ron Rivera will say, hey,
Speaker 1: pop by my office. Hey do you know Steve Wilkes.
Speaker 1: He's there to fit backs coach. This guy is a stud.
Speaker 1: He's going to be a head coach in the NFL.
Speaker 1: You guys need to know each other because his work
Speaker 1: isn't recognized on a national level yet. Fast forward two
Speaker 1: years later, he's the Arizona Cardinals. That's how that happens.
Speaker 1: It's not because I can imagine Peter just kind of
Speaker 1: like creeping around corners, like like it's the defensive line. Like, hey,
Speaker 1: you guys, who are you? How does anyone worth hiring?
Speaker 1: How does something like that not factor into your personal
Speaker 1: head coach rankings? When you see a coach whose that
Speaker 1: selfless and once like Bruce arians is known for this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff like his, doesn't that automatically make you
Speaker 1: think that that person is a better coach And you
Speaker 1: see how they lead, and you see how they're selfless,
Speaker 1: and I think you know, to mcveigh's credit, we talk
Speaker 1: about the the McVeigh tree and all this stuff. There
Speaker 1: was a good article from Michael Silver this week and
Speaker 1: on the record, McVeigh is like, I think Matt Lafleur
Speaker 1: is one of the best. You know, it's okay to
Speaker 1: give love to others, and you see how these guys
Speaker 1: lead to interact with each other, and you don't get
Speaker 1: that if you're not in these buildings and get the
Speaker 1: opportunity to so. I guess, but it's also the reporter's
Speaker 1: job to say, is this just popping up? I'll say
Speaker 1: this one more time on the Jets thing though, because
Speaker 1: I do want to make this point as well. I
Speaker 1: think that the Buccaneers used them, and I'm not knocking
Speaker 1: the work. They do everything as far as checking the
Speaker 1: box and covering your ass and everything you ever need
Speaker 1: to know. If there's a thing in someone's past, I
Speaker 1: might not know it, but these guys, that's part of
Speaker 1: the consultancy process. That's why you use a search firm,
Speaker 1: because they'll know that this guy had an issue in
Speaker 1: high school and you might want to be aware of it.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm or
Speaker 1: haven't had the I'm not gonna if you don't unless
Speaker 1: you pay in me. I'm not gonna do anything that
Speaker 1: stuff they paid the the consultancy firm or the search firm,
Speaker 1: you know, close to probably seven figures or high six figures,
Speaker 1: and the answer for who they recommended to be head
Speaker 1: coach was Bruce Arians. Well right, which the guy at
Speaker 1: the bar still next to you could have done the
Speaker 1: same thing, you know, to ask around and to ask
Speaker 1: other people like who they would suggest. It's not crazy
Speaker 1: when the gold ribbon panel that is that you're paying
Speaker 1: high six figures for is suggesting a coach who has
Speaker 1: been in every organization and as sixty two years old. Well,
Speaker 1: now that we're sitting here with you, I mean you
Speaker 1: are you know. I love the assistant coaches, We love
Speaker 1: the the guys that are rising up through the ranks
Speaker 1: in the front office. Can is there someone that comes
Speaker 1: to your mind sort of over and over as the
Speaker 1: next sort of unearthed Yes, Sean McVeigh from four years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see on the defensive side of the ball. And
Speaker 1: I'm not pumping his tires because we don't have a
Speaker 1: personal relationship. But Robert sala is the defensive coordinator of
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners. They haven't had the pieces,
Speaker 1: but this guy leads by example and if you walk
Speaker 1: in that building, Kyle Shanahan is modified the guy, but
Speaker 1: that defense would run through a brick wall and would
Speaker 1: do anything for Salo And around the league he's been
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville and Seattle. He is just viewed as one
Speaker 1: of these morally straight edge guy we want to work
Speaker 1: and next year he will be a name that everyone
Speaker 1: sorry who has not has ever had an opportunity, you know,
Speaker 1: in the past things um Less Sneak kind of said
Speaker 1: off handedly yesterday when we were talking to him, was
Speaker 1: did you guys addressed to the audience that less Sneed
Speaker 1: was here and the whole thing spoke give some context,
Speaker 1: but he said, kind of off handedly, I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about Miami. They'll be fine. They got the right guy.
Speaker 1: You feel the same way. And I think there was
Speaker 1: a picture that their website put out or maybe someone
Speaker 1: else and I don't even know if it's out there,
Speaker 1: was like T n T. It's all over the building
Speaker 1: right now, and I think it's stood for like Team
Speaker 1: not Talent or something like that, like where it's it's
Speaker 1: one of those mantras that like the come in like
Speaker 1: I want to. But the fact he didn't crown, uh,
Speaker 1: Rose and his quarterback right away. He's like, no, he's
Speaker 1: gonna earn it. The fact that those young players are
Speaker 1: fired up, and the fact that he brought with him
Speaker 1: a lot of that Patriots brain trust. It's gonna um,
Speaker 1: They're gonna be all right. Back to Houston and Jets
Speaker 1: real quick. Why is no one in the media going
Speaker 1: nuts about the circus and dysfunction and what Houston just did.
Speaker 1: It was not treated in the same light as the Jets.
Speaker 1: And is it just the media market that, Hey, John
Speaker 1: mcclaim is the guy and this is what he says,
Speaker 1: and the local beat reporter reported it this way. So locally,
Speaker 1: I think it is they got savage pretty hard in
Speaker 1: the Chronicle. No one. No one cares for whatever. No
Speaker 1: one cares nationally what Brian Smith of the Chronicle rights
Speaker 1: or what McCain I think on the right I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm saying locally, no they I think O'Brien's not that O'Brien,
Speaker 1: And it might be because of the relationships he's built
Speaker 1: with nationally, which is another story. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: as popular locally as he is nationally, which is strange.
Speaker 1: This is an eleven and five team that won the
Speaker 1: division last year and had no first or second round
Speaker 1: picks and had no salary cap and they fired the
Speaker 1: GM yes one year into a five year deal, and
Speaker 1: not one person on our network or ESPN is going nuts.
Speaker 1: Like the Jets situation where they said, what are you
Speaker 1: doing well? The Jets were five and eleven, six and
Speaker 1: ten and six and ten the last three years. Hasn't
Speaker 1: have been in the DNA over the last decade for
Speaker 1: and unrightly, but it's New York team to Savage the
Speaker 1: Jets left and right, because the Jets have been the Jets.
Speaker 1: It's not is it fair? No? I agree with Dan's
Speaker 1: fury over to some degree institution. My answer from an
Speaker 1: outside if I wasn't a Jets fan, I'd probably enjoy
Speaker 1: it too, because the Jets are one of those franchise
Speaker 1: franchises that people seem to enjoy to watch the the
Speaker 1: train go off the tracks and then it's a bit
Speaker 1: of a pylon. The Texans don't have that same situation.
Speaker 1: To be fair, there there is one commonality among the
Speaker 1: Jets of the last twenty years and is the last
Speaker 1: name of the owner and hasn't changed. True. Well, I
Speaker 1: think the answer to your question isn't because how they're covered.
Speaker 1: When somebody in the Jets locker room sneezes, it's news
Speaker 1: and nobody cares what the texts. Uh, Peter Schreger, you've
Speaker 1: said it all. Yeah, you've done it. You came, you
Speaker 1: laid in the sun. It's great. You never even not
Speaker 1: even any flop sweat. Just show us how comfortable you
Speaker 1: are in this setting. A thousand right now. Follow Peter
Speaker 1: at p Schreig's s h R A G S. This
Speaker 1: is a little show within a show. I feel like
Speaker 1: you guys should never be in a locked in a
Speaker 1: studio again, you live in l A. Should be outdoors,
Speaker 1: pool side and everyone's a little cooler, a little looser,
Speaker 1: and if beverages were included, I wouldn't have get some
Speaker 1: speedos involved. That's why it's get weird that the people
Speaker 1: around us might not agree. But Peter, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: And yes, watch Good Morning Football, follow Peter's reporting on
Speaker 1: television and on the internet and all that good stuff.
Speaker 1: You're the man, Peter, Thank you. Thanks guys, loved it.
Speaker 1: Thanks Peter. Pool Side pool Side. That was excellent, great
Speaker 1: inside from Peter, and you could tell Peter had wanted
Speaker 1: to get that jet stuff off his chest for a while,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if he had the ability to
Speaker 1: do that on Good Morning Football, But the shadowy league
Speaker 1: figures maybe not aware that you were the perfect for
Speaker 1: that to happen, because I think you you are a
Speaker 1: Jets man with with the most and that we I
Speaker 1: can't believe that's going to make it into the show.
Speaker 1: If it did, I have no um. All right, so
Speaker 1: there you go. Can't wait to tell Peter who I
Speaker 1: respect most on Good Morning Football. All right, here we go.
Speaker 1: Let's now before we go, and by the way, last
Speaker 1: year and the year before, um Al river Iron, who
Speaker 1: is the have officiating for the NFL. Always the most
Speaker 1: fireworks is when Al takes the microphone and the Xbox
Speaker 1: controller and goes over the rule changes. And obviously with
Speaker 1: the past interference uh O p I and d p
Speaker 1: I now reviewable. UM, that led to a pretty fiery
Speaker 1: series of exchanges with a lot of the former players,
Speaker 1: especially uh. We will get to that on let's say,
Speaker 1: next week show, Monday show next week because we want
Speaker 1: to devote a little bit more time and we don't
Speaker 1: want to run too long today. So Al river Iron's
Speaker 1: state of the Union at the NFL Media Summit. We'll
Speaker 1: hit it on Monday, but for now, to close out
Speaker 1: today's show, some general takeaways UH from the media. So
Speaker 1: it will start with you, Chris Wesley. Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: it's a room full of talented people. That's why they
Speaker 1: call it the Talent Something. And I'm always blown away
Speaker 1: by how strong minded and how talented and how ambitious
Speaker 1: the people in the room are. But I also I
Speaker 1: took so many notes that my pen ran out of ink.
Speaker 1: Half my notebook is full. And the big totally unique,
Speaker 1: humble Bragg no one has ever done that. The big
Speaker 1: takeaway for me is there are two kinds of people
Speaker 1: in this room, the kind that make everything about themselves
Speaker 1: and every other human being on earth. Greg, what am
Speaker 1: I one of those people? You are not one of
Speaker 1: the people who makes it about yourself. I wanted to
Speaker 1: hear that's what we're getting the corporate jug We're gonna
Speaker 1: get to that and say that the last thing we do.
Speaker 1: I where do I go? I think Steve Smith being
Speaker 1: Steve Smith in every situation of his life is delightful
Speaker 1: and we can maybe we'll talk about that about with Riveron.
Speaker 1: But he was given Riveron as much grief the He's funny.
Speaker 1: He's a lot of times in sports were like that.
Speaker 1: Guy's funny, like Steve Smith is legit funny, has great timing,
Speaker 1: has great comebacks right after the bat like I am
Speaker 1: such a fan. He dropped some bombs and it's the
Speaker 1: timing he the way he would suddenly unfurl an a
Speaker 1: bomb on the speaker. He's unique because I think we
Speaker 1: see a lot of athletes and he's only a couple
Speaker 1: of years out of the game. When there are a
Speaker 1: couple of years out of the game, they're reluctant to
Speaker 1: speak their minds, they're reluctant to be themselves. And he
Speaker 1: seems like he's a hundred Steve smithe all the time. Mark,
Speaker 1: all right, hang with me for one second, because one
Speaker 1: thing this has been, you know, the third or fourth
Speaker 1: time we've gone to this, and a lot of the
Speaker 1: similar beats Um, which that would lead me to sometimes
Speaker 1: tune out a little bit when it's the same stuff
Speaker 1: is last year. But it was about UM in my
Speaker 1: mind twelve hours ago that I was in a car
Speaker 1: up on Sunset Boulevard Um after leaving yesterday's event with
Speaker 1: Brad pitt, a young Gwyneth Paltrow and Leonardo DiCaprio, and
Speaker 1: we were in a stolen police car. And then suddenly,
Speaker 1: about fourteen seconds later, I was in a massive lake
Speaker 1: in a sprawling wilderness. The lake filled with milk, and
Speaker 1: I wanted to swim to shore, but all along the
Speaker 1: shoreline were hundreds of kittens licking the milk, and I
Speaker 1: just didn't know where to find my opening. And then
Speaker 1: I woke up and realized this was a dream that
Speaker 1: I had, and I wanted to share it with everyone
Speaker 1: that I knew. But I was told yesterday by HR
Speaker 1: that we are not allowed to comment on dreams that
Speaker 1: we have in the nighttime space ever again to anyone
Speaker 1: we work with. And it is quite disturbing to me.
Speaker 1: And is that does not see that seemed like something
Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to share it with my friends. That's
Speaker 1: unfair because we should all be able to hear that.
Speaker 1: What why it's a good rule is that creeps will
Speaker 1: use the dream cover to get creepy. I know, but
Speaker 1: this is simply about you're just milk old lady, can
Speaker 1: I can? I can still tell you about that um takeaway.
Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of talk about the Raiders move in
Speaker 1: to Las Vegas that came up, and and sports gambling
Speaker 1: and all that. I learned that former NFL Commissioner Paul
Speaker 1: Tagley Boo refused to even fly over Las Vegas. Do
Speaker 1: you believe that story to be apocryphal or ridiculous? I
Speaker 1: don't know. Can you imagine that can because and if
Speaker 1: if you're not connecting the dots that he was so
Speaker 1: against the idea of professional football and sports gambling that
Speaker 1: he didn't even want to be in the air range
Speaker 1: of the mecca of gambling. But did he ask for
Speaker 1: the flight plan like when he was flying coast to coast?
Speaker 1: I am curious about that was like a Howard Hugh
Speaker 1: But um, NFL networks Omar Ruiz, Remember Sean Casey, your
Speaker 1: boy with the red the mayor. Well, that's what Ruiz is.
Speaker 1: Amongst the talent, the guy is um bipartisan. He could work,
Speaker 1: he could work both sides of the aisle. And he's
Speaker 1: a He's a big star in the world of politics.
Speaker 1: I think if he wants to be. And then my
Speaker 1: last takeaway is, um, you know, that's a long event.
Speaker 1: It was the first day was essentially eight thirty until
Speaker 1: six thirties sitting in a an auditorium, and there are
Speaker 1: lulls not all the presentations land and one prominent network
Speaker 1: face during one of the presentations sent me what I
Speaker 1: approximate to be a three word text message explaining the
Speaker 1: nineteen two film Et as a meditation on faith. So
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna read you this was. I am not joking.
Speaker 1: This was sent to me. Okay, this wasn't Mark. That
Speaker 1: sentence was not Mark. It is a prominent television fixture
Speaker 1: on pretty quickly one of my favorite movies of all times. ET,
Speaker 1: allow me to explain why, seeing as I have plenty
Speaker 1: of effing time right now. The movie is a religious allegory,
Speaker 1: which Spielberg has denied, but who's the kidding e t
Speaker 1: is eases. I'll spare you the details for now, but
Speaker 1: would be more than happy to share later anyway. Et
Speaker 1: says the letter B when he sees it on Sesame
Speaker 1: Street on TV and Gertie replies, you said be good.
Speaker 1: The little bastard then uses that line when he leaves
Speaker 1: and tells Gertie be good. Some fake ass alien that
Speaker 1: doesn't exist breaks it down. Minus all the religious that
Speaker 1: other people used to weaponize their faith against others. It's great.
Speaker 1: So when you said be smart, I guess I said
Speaker 1: that or whatever. When that lady was going on for hours,
Speaker 1: it reminded me of e T. Same with this guy
Speaker 1: right now, wrap it up, fiend. Wow, it's like the review.
Speaker 1: Do you believe I need to hear that again? Um?
Speaker 1: But I'm more like hovering around who possibly sent it?
Speaker 1: I think I nailed it. That's correct. I guess the
Speaker 1: same thing Greg did. That's correct. I I do have
Speaker 1: to um two more, just quick ones. Number one. Uh,
Speaker 1: most people they don't mind if you talk about gambling.
Speaker 1: But women over the age of fifty five done do it?
Speaker 1: Don't They're gonna hate you. Um, so sorry to all
Speaker 1: the older ladies out there whenever we've mentioned yeah, white
Speaker 1: women specifically. And then finally, if you're coming off the
Speaker 1: stage you just talked about HR or anything like that,
Speaker 1: don't do a fist bump with the next person that's
Speaker 1: coming up. I don't know, I just I just it
Speaker 1: makes me feel awkward. And it's just a tough moment
Speaker 1: in these these settings. I mean, it's even worse when
Speaker 1: that's the the high five and fifth bump. Get confused
Speaker 1: and you got the half and half sloppy one, which
Speaker 1: I saw that in one instance as well. West Um,
Speaker 1: Now we throw it to you, and feel free to
Speaker 1: throw in another thought before you get to it. But
Speaker 1: we want to hear the official two thousand nineteen Corporo jargon.
Speaker 1: I'll say most of my thoughts for the river run
Speaker 1: section coming up in the future. But two am. We're
Speaker 1: basically there for about an hour on the first day,
Speaker 1: and I wrote down, wait, who sent the memo to
Speaker 1: avoid Corpo buzzwords this year? It was obvious that somebody
Speaker 1: has gotten to these people and told them not to.
Speaker 1: Now I did catch them using weird words as verbs,
Speaker 1: which I delighted me to no end. When somebody had
Speaker 1: three times first somebody said, well, what if this team
Speaker 1: is I D eighteen on that G eighteen and we
Speaker 1: also got we'll offline that conversation. That's great, let's offline this.
Speaker 1: I've got this one written down. That wasn't it a great?
Speaker 1: A great example though, of someone making it all about themselves,
Speaker 1: taking out a total personal vendetta in front of forty
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful thing. So my favorite quote of the
Speaker 1: first day was we sound like dinosaurs even saying this
Speaker 1: but there's so much more beyond the linear space that
Speaker 1: sounds like a crazy guy that runs a cult that
Speaker 1: whereas Red Sneakers, you know, the whole group might Yeah,
Speaker 1: I heard linear space a few times and I'm still
Speaker 1: not sure what they mean by that. That it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter what it means, it's just it sounds good. What else?
Speaker 1: And then really, this was like leading off the game
Speaker 1: with back to back. Homer's one of one of my
Speaker 1: favorite people in the newsroom area. Unleashed this in one breath.
Speaker 1: If we can put a button on this and point
Speaker 1: to a north Star too, cor Fo jargons and mad
Speaker 1: lives like hit out of the park right there. But
Speaker 1: I love North Star so much. Yeah, and I think
Speaker 1: that's about it. Like I said, I think somebody got
Speaker 1: to these people. I know, uh my boy Kingsley at
Speaker 1: one point said this is a strange kabuki dance, which
Speaker 1: I know is in Corto jargon. That's that's a point
Speaker 1: to uh Japanese culture. I think there's been a real
Speaker 1: push to your point in someone spoken in some meetings
Speaker 1: somewhere that we were not invited to and never will
Speaker 1: be about let's look real, transparent and genuine to these people,
Speaker 1: but then suddenly they slipped back into the old habits,
Speaker 1: and that's where the jargon starts to pop forth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they just you know, a lot of above
Speaker 1: the tree tops which no, I think somebody got to him.
Speaker 1: I think maybe a secretary pushed something onto a desk
Speaker 1: and said, these people said this in a podcast, then
Speaker 1: you gotta change your message this year. All right, good stuff, excellent,
Speaker 1: well done everyone, including you America, Thank you absolutely. Um.
Speaker 1: All right, that's it for today. Erica always sound like
Speaker 1: a hostage. I don't know, I don't know. All right,
Speaker 1: So that's it for this week's show. Mark, You're going
Speaker 1: on vacation, Yes, family vacation, visiting my parents and other
Speaker 1: people in New Hampshire next week. Nice and not one
Speaker 1: of those uh staying in l a and walking in
Speaker 1: the alleyways as while carrying a carolac book. Not one
Speaker 1: of those. Not unless I alone missed the plane. We'll
Speaker 1: enjoy yourself in New Hampshire, which is in New England,
Speaker 1: which means a lot to you, America. Yeah, I'm from
Speaker 1: New Hampshire originally you're from Massachusetts, and they are very
Speaker 1: distinctly different places. I don't know, all right, we'll be
Speaker 1: back on Monday. We will hit the river on stuff.
Speaker 1: Um mark, if you have any thoughts you want to offload,
Speaker 1: take it offline with me and we'll make sure they
Speaker 1: get into the show. I think it's a good one. Yes,
Speaker 1: we will send for a while and then I will
Speaker 1: do that. But yeah, let's not get two above the
Speaker 1: tree tops here. We will be back Monday, so make
Speaker 1: sure you check it out. Thank you to everyone, and
Speaker 1: um that's it. Stan Hands is signing off for Quiet Storm,
Speaker 1: The Mailman, the Old Boss and Ricky Hollywood Behind the
Speaker 1: Glass until Monday is a long day pull side bull side,
Speaker 1: bull side, bull side, bull side, bull side, bull side
Speaker 1: bull