WEBVTT - Glory to God with Jacob Schick

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Good Stuff. I'm Jacob Shick and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>joined by my co host and wife, Ashley Shick.

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<v Speaker 2>Jake is a third generation combat Marine and I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>gold Star granddaughter. We work together to serve military veterans,

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<v Speaker 2>first responders, frontline healthcare workers, and their families with mental

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<v Speaker 2>and emotional wellness through traditional and non traditional therapy. At

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<v Speaker 2>One Tribe Foundation, we believe everyone has.

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<v Speaker 1>A story to tell, not only about the peaks, but

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<v Speaker 1>also the valleys they've been through to get them to

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<v Speaker 1>where they are today.

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<v Speaker 2>Each week, we invite a guest to tell us their story,

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<v Speaker 2>to share with us the lessons they've learned that shaped

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<v Speaker 2>who they are and what they're doing to pay it

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<v Speaker 2>forward and give back.

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<v Speaker 1>Our mission with this show is to dig deep in

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<v Speaker 1>our guest journey so that we can celebrate the hope

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<v Speaker 1>and inspiration their story has to offer.

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<v Speaker 2>We are thrilled you're joining us again.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Good Stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to our season one finale. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>for listening over the last thirty episodes. We are truly

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<v Speaker 2>grateful for your support and hope. This podcast has provided

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<v Speaker 2>inspiration and hope for each of you, like it has

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<v Speaker 2>for us, thanks for making this show what it is

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<v Speaker 2>and what it's growing into, and for those of you

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<v Speaker 2>that have been listening all along and learning about the

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<v Speaker 2>two of us over the course of season one. We

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to bring the podcast full circle an end where

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<v Speaker 2>we started with our own story.

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<v Speaker 1>I strongly second everything Ash said, because without you, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>there is no show. And really we're coming full circle

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<v Speaker 1>because today our guest is me telling my version of

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<v Speaker 1>the story of when I was severely injured while serving

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<v Speaker 1>this country. I do a lot of public speaking, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is a story I've told many many times, but

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<v Speaker 1>this recording is different because it's intimate. It's to my wife,

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<v Speaker 1>just two of us in a room, and I am

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<v Speaker 1>going to dig deep to go back to that day

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<v Speaker 1>in that place and remember it just the way I

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<v Speaker 1>remember it every single day, but on a much deeper level,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that that's only fair because of what

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<v Speaker 1>our guest has given us, I think I owe it

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<v Speaker 1>to all of you to do the same.

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<v Speaker 2>With that said, Jacob Schick, welcome to the season one

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<v Speaker 2>finale of The Good Stuff. Today we're going to hear

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<v Speaker 2>about the day you were injured while serving our country

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<v Speaker 2>in Iraq. Nearly twenty years ago. At the time, you

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<v Speaker 2>were twenty two years old on your first deployment in

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<v Speaker 2>the Sunni Triangle of Iraq.

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<v Speaker 1>It was September twentieth, two thousand and four, about five am,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm the leader of the reacting Reacting is very

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<v Speaker 1>similar to the QRF, which means quick Reaction Force. And

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<v Speaker 1>what happens is we get called when there's a threat

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<v Speaker 1>in IRIB operation that needs to be neutralized. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting in the hum V next to Doc because

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<v Speaker 1>it was his turn to be on watch, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was debriefing with Doc about this high stress situation that

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<v Speaker 1>we just had with the Iraqi National Guard, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was still very much coming off my adrenaline high and

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<v Speaker 1>the guys had already betted down inside the tent. Once

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<v Speaker 1>that adrenaline dump wears off, Like you just knows dive,

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<v Speaker 1>there's always just super high highs and super low low

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<v Speaker 1>so there's very little in between. And so I remember

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<v Speaker 1>when I walked into the tent, you know, that's where

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<v Speaker 1>I find my moment of solace and sit down on

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<v Speaker 1>my cot trying to be quiet because I know the

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<v Speaker 1>guys need sleep. I kick the boots off, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like taking a deep breath, laying in your bed at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of a long day, knowing, Okay, whatever my

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<v Speaker 1>abnormal baseline is, I can get to it right now,

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<v Speaker 1>even for a minute. And I laid down on my

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<v Speaker 1>cot and within fifteen minutes a react got called, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember just feeling bad for the guys because I

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<v Speaker 1>knew that everybody was tired and hungry, getting thirsty and miserable.

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember smiling because I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Murphy's law, it's just never ending. So I get up

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<v Speaker 1>and I put my boots on. I wake all the

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<v Speaker 1>guys up. And the way we do it is not

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<v Speaker 1>by rubbing their backs and whispering sweet nothing's in their ear.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, It's just not the way we do it

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<v Speaker 1>in the Marine Corps. And I got everybody up and

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<v Speaker 1>told them we got to react and get moving.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know you've told me before. A react is

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<v Speaker 2>basically a response by your unit to a threat in

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<v Speaker 2>your area of operation.

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<v Speaker 1>All the guys are rustling and growing and mumbling, and

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<v Speaker 1>as they should. We were exhausted. Everybody was exhausted. We

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<v Speaker 1>were tired. We weren't physically beaten up, but we were

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<v Speaker 1>pretty emotionally exhausted. The moment I breached the outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the tent, I felt it, and I knew we were

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<v Speaker 1>going to get hit.

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<v Speaker 2>Where did that feeling come from?

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that that was a combination of God and

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<v Speaker 1>my grandfather talking to me from beyond the grave. And

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<v Speaker 1>I felt that it was so real and so convicting

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<v Speaker 1>that I knew whatever I feel from this point forward,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what happens, I have to listen to it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is my gut. I remember stopping for a moment

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<v Speaker 1>and having a lot of nervousness come over me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I looked to my right and all nine of the

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<v Speaker 1>other Marines and the REACT team were walking to the

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<v Speaker 1>two humbies to get ready to go on this react.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember seeing a couple of them dragging their flack

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<v Speaker 1>jackets and having their boots unlaced, and because it was

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<v Speaker 1>just it's so the antithesis of what people think of,

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<v Speaker 1>most likely when they think of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Corps, right, because Marines are always so buttoned up and

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<v Speaker 2>squared away.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember looking at him and I felt this overwhelming

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<v Speaker 1>sense of love and respect for him, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>remember thinking to myself, like I am so freaking it

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<v Speaker 1>honored that those are my brothers. Right after that, I

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<v Speaker 1>look to my left and I see my commanding officers

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<v Speaker 1>HUMBE and I knew he had a bomb blanket and

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<v Speaker 1>somebody somewhere God my grandfather told me to go get

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<v Speaker 1>that bomb blanket.

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<v Speaker 2>And a bomb blanket is that one more layer of

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<v Speaker 2>protection that you need in your vehicle should you get hit.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went and opened the passenger door of his

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<v Speaker 1>HUMV and I take the bomb blanket out, and I

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<v Speaker 1>start walking to the two vehicles and I go to

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<v Speaker 1>the lead vehicle. The driver was in the driver's seat

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<v Speaker 1>and I told him scoot over. I got it. And

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<v Speaker 1>he looked at me. He's like, no, bro, I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, I'm not asking you, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of irritated him because we were very close and I'd

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<v Speaker 1>never really given a direct order. And I remember he's

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<v Speaker 1>scooted over the passer seat known as the ay driver.

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<v Speaker 1>And I go to the reach back to the back

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<v Speaker 1>and grab the radio from radio man. It's between five

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<v Speaker 1>and six in the morning, it's like right before sun up.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember telling the guys button up your shatter

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<v Speaker 1>proof goggles, your keV lar, your helmet and at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that the guys knew that something wasn't right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, when it's one hundred and thirty degrees and

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<v Speaker 1>you're wearing a ninety pound combat load, you don't need

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<v Speaker 1>help being uncomfortable. And they knew that I had a

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<v Speaker 1>feeling about something. And I remember getting in the driver's

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<v Speaker 1>seat after I put the bomb blanket down, and I

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<v Speaker 1>have the radio in my right hand because something told

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<v Speaker 1>me drive with your left, talk with your right, and

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<v Speaker 1>I punched it. And by the time we go around

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<v Speaker 1>this turn and I'm talking with the watchtower, we called

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<v Speaker 1>the react. It was trying to get us on target.

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<v Speaker 1>We're trying to walk us on target. And I knew

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<v Speaker 1>that I had to take this road because there was

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<v Speaker 1>one way in and one way out of this area

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<v Speaker 1>in do Live, Iraq. I just have to sail on

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<v Speaker 1>this road until I can make a turn to get

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<v Speaker 1>off the road and off the tracks to make a

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<v Speaker 1>beeline to wherever the thread is. And I came over

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<v Speaker 1>this hill. There was at least a twenty or thirty

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<v Speaker 1>meter area that was soft sand on this one road.

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<v Speaker 1>The rest of it was like compact, so compact it

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<v Speaker 1>was as hard as cement, but this one area that

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<v Speaker 1>was part of a dried up waddy or a dried

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<v Speaker 1>up riverbed had soft sand.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is soft sand dangerous?

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is when you see the soft sand off

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<v Speaker 1>of a hard compact surface, you know that if there

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<v Speaker 1>is an a media threat in the form of a

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<v Speaker 1>bomb or an ied and provides a supposed device, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be there. Within hitting that soft sand, it

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<v Speaker 1>was maybe maybe two seconds and the front left tire

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<v Speaker 1>may contact the pressure plate. The way this works is

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<v Speaker 1>it was a triple stacked anti tank mine. The pressure

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<v Speaker 1>plate goes down and the lights of fuse and the

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<v Speaker 1>bombs go off, and that made the front left tire.

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<v Speaker 1>Once it made contact, it blew directly beneath me. So

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<v Speaker 1>many things happen before I'm ejected out of the hum V.

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<v Speaker 1>The firewall on the humbe folded so that broke my

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<v Speaker 1>right foot. A piece of shrapnel or a piece of

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<v Speaker 1>the hum vy went through the bottom of my left

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<v Speaker 1>arm that I was driving with and came out the top.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the steering wheel and the dashboard disengaged and hit

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<v Speaker 1>me in my chest, which is on the front of

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<v Speaker 1>our flat jackets is where we wear all of our magazines,

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<v Speaker 1>where we keep all of our AMMO for quick and

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<v Speaker 1>easy access, which made all my magazines explode, and it

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<v Speaker 1>also broke every one of my rips. In this process,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a piece of shrapnel go through the right

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<v Speaker 1>lens of my goggles. Then I was ejected. I was

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<v Speaker 1>blown thirty feet to the top of the humbe because

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<v Speaker 1>we operated in two door, soft top humb's, And I

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<v Speaker 1>remember being in the air knowing this is very, very bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Leave you remember all of these details on something that

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<v Speaker 2>happened in the blink of an eye, as if it

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<v Speaker 2>was in slow motion. We left you off, with you

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<v Speaker 2>literally mid air. After the explosion, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Ended up landing ways away from the reacting and I

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<v Speaker 1>stuck the landing with my head because I'm a marine

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<v Speaker 1>and we believe in good form. My ears were just

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<v Speaker 1>ringing and ringing, and it was just so loud, and

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<v Speaker 1>I smelt smoke fire. All the sand was still this

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<v Speaker 1>huge cloud. Because the sand is so fine, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>baby powder fine that it takes forever when there's an

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<v Speaker 1>explosion or even when you're driving for it to settle,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not like dust on a dirt road, which

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<v Speaker 1>settles fairly quickly. I mean this stuff just it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it floats in the air. And so I still couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>see where the vehicles were, and I couldn't figure out

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<v Speaker 1>where I was. But then my age driver started yelling

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<v Speaker 1>check Chick, and I remember trying to immediately make my

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<v Speaker 1>way back to the lead vehicle, and I was going

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<v Speaker 1>towards the sound of his voice. And so I started

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<v Speaker 1>pulling myself with my right arm, and I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to move my whole body and the only thing that

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<v Speaker 1>would function or even move was my right arm. So

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm pulling, I realized I don't have a weapon,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I start to move my left arm, which

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<v Speaker 1>was just flopping around, and I knew it was broken.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even have to look, but I was waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for my arm to hit metal at the rail system

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<v Speaker 1>of my sixteen, and I couldn't find it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I looked down and I could see with my left

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<v Speaker 1>eye of it, I wasn't going anywhere. I was just

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<v Speaker 1>scooping sand. The whole time I'm hearing shack Hick. This

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<v Speaker 1>crush my soul is when he broke military protocol and

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<v Speaker 1>he just yelled my first name, and he just yelled Jacob,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was this blood curdling scream of desperosity just

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<v Speaker 1>to have any sign of me, because I'm sure when

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<v Speaker 1>he looks in the passenger seat and all these seas

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<v Speaker 1>or my rounds from my magazines and my blood, but

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<v Speaker 1>no me. I remember when he did that, and it

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<v Speaker 1>broke my heart. I couldn't get to him, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying hard, and it just crushed me because I

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<v Speaker 1>loved him so much and I wanted him to know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>hey man, I'm okay, and too, like stop yelling, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're making us a target. Stop yelling.

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<v Speaker 2>Why what were you afraid of?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know if we were going to take on

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<v Speaker 1>small arms fire. I didn't know if there was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a second attack. I didn't know. So at

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<v Speaker 1>that point, I realized, I'm not gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 1>get to where he is, and I need to do

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<v Speaker 1>a self assessment. And I remember looking down at my

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<v Speaker 1>left leg and starting my self assessment to see what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of aid I can render myself if I'm even

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<v Speaker 1>able to do that, and I saw my phibia, my tibia,

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<v Speaker 1>sticking out of my left leg, and my left leg

0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.960
<v Speaker 1>was wrapped around itself and my foot was inverted and

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<v Speaker 1>turned upside down. My boot was blown off, my combat boot,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember thinking when I saw that two things.

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<v Speaker 1>One that's not supposed to be like that, and two

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<v Speaker 1>this was a significant amount of force to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to blow my combat boot off of my foot and

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<v Speaker 1>not take my foot with it. And I remember looking

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<v Speaker 1>at my right leg, which looked normal, and it hurt

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<v Speaker 1>like hell, and I knew it was broken, but it

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<v Speaker 1>looked normal. I worked my way up and got to

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<v Speaker 1>my left arm and saw daylight through my left arm.

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<v Speaker 1>It blew out five inches on out of my left arm,

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<v Speaker 1>my own the bone, and then part of my left hand,

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<v Speaker 1>probably gonna lose the left leg, lose the left arm.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I look at my right arm and I

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<v Speaker 1>just see s trapping, the wounds, a couple of minor burns.

0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't see my own face, but I felt trapping

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<v Speaker 1>alver my face and my chin and my neck, so

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<v Speaker 1>I knew I was really wounded. At this point, I

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<v Speaker 1>still hadn't taken a breath when I got hit by

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<v Speaker 1>the steering wheel and just collapsed my lungs. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>able to breathe laying there after my self assessment, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember telling God, all I ask is that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't take me in front of my brothers. Because

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<v Speaker 1>I knew I was dying. This was most likely going

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<v Speaker 1>to be my last day on the planet, and so

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<v Speaker 1>my hyper focus became not dying in front of my brothers.

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<v Speaker 1>And the deal I made with God was, as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as the bird gets here and those kids leave the deck,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all yours. All I ask of you is to

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<v Speaker 1>not allow my family to watch me die. And I

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<v Speaker 1>became hyper focused on staying alive for as long as

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<v Speaker 1>that took. Little did I know it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>take as long as it did. But I was able

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<v Speaker 1>to really focus on that and dig into something that

0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I knew I had but I rarely had to tap into.

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<v Speaker 1>At which point I could hear a couple of the

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<v Speaker 1>guys coming up, and the majority of them are standing

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<v Speaker 1>around me, and you know, we got you, Shike, we

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<v Speaker 1>got you, brother, and I looked up and the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing I said, up, grace of God, I was able

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<v Speaker 1>to take a breath, and the first thing I said

0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:46.680
<v Speaker 1>was developed through sixty, which means set up a security perimeter.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember the look on their faces like oh,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, and I was like, yeah, we're at war,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't feel like all of us getting shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Was you looking at me? Set up the three sixty,

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<v Speaker 1>several of them went up, set up the security perimmer.

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<v Speaker 1>A few of them picked me up and took me

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<v Speaker 1>to the second Humby that was not didn't take any

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<v Speaker 1>damage because at this point the pain didn't necessarily set

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<v Speaker 1>in yet. But I knew it was coming. And by

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<v Speaker 1>the time they got me in the vehicle in the

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<v Speaker 1>back of the second Humbye to take me to the

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<v Speaker 1>command post, and it started setting in. The more painful

0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:29.879
<v Speaker 1>it it became, the angrier I got. And I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>they get me to the command post and Doc straight

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<v Speaker 1>they're ready to go, ready to work on me. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was one of those moments that were surreal because

0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:42.639
<v Speaker 1>I was I felt like just minutes ago, I was

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<v Speaker 1>sitting with them and we were just talking and I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to come down off this adrill on high

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<v Speaker 1>and yet here he is just straight up in work

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<v Speaker 1>mode and he's talking to me and I'm just yelling

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<v Speaker 1>at him. You hit me, Doc, hit me with the morphine,

0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:02.160
<v Speaker 1>and he did, and he hit me twice and that's

0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:05.479
<v Speaker 1>the only time he would hit me. And it was

0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:09.200
<v Speaker 1>putting a needle in your thigh and releasing some morphine

0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:13.960
<v Speaker 1>into you. And I was pissed because he had only

0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.520
<v Speaker 1>hit me twice and I knew he had more. And

0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm yelling at this guy who I love and I

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<v Speaker 1>respect and calling him a stingy bastard. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in fight mode, fighting for my own life. You

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<v Speaker 1>had this other marine that was with Doc, that did

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<v Speaker 1>this additional training to help Doc with these situations where

0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:35.680
<v Speaker 1>he had a little more know how when it came

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<v Speaker 1>to providing medical care to the Marines and to the enemy,

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<v Speaker 1>which we did. This particular marine he stepped on my

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<v Speaker 1>left leg and obviously was an accident. He didn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>to do. It really pissed me off. The complete antithesis

0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.679
<v Speaker 1>of politely asking him to go away is what I

0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:59.280
<v Speaker 1>told him, And I remember him getting emotional, and I

0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:04.119
<v Speaker 1>remember that pissing me off more. And so if you

0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:07.080
<v Speaker 1>haven't picked up on it yet, anger is a very

0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:10.440
<v Speaker 1>high octane fuel for me that I've learned to utilize

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<v Speaker 1>over the years to help get me through the valleys

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<v Speaker 1>to the peak. And I've used it as a motivator

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of bad but also in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more good and I remember hearing my tuning commander given

0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:26.960
<v Speaker 1>talking over the net or the radio to our battalion

0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:31.119
<v Speaker 1>back at the base and alasade I distinctly remember him saying,

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<v Speaker 1>We've got to get the spreen out of here. He's

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<v Speaker 1>category four and he's rapidly approaching category five. Category four

0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:44.000
<v Speaker 1>means urg a surgery, Category five meaning expectant not going

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<v Speaker 1>to make it. And I knew he was right because

0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:53.119
<v Speaker 1>every minute that passed I felt life leaving my body,

0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:56.480
<v Speaker 1>and I knew I've just got to keep fighting, got

0:19:56.480 --> 0:20:00.720
<v Speaker 1>to keep fighting. And I was very, very very grateful

0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:02.960
<v Speaker 1>to be in the back of that hume Bee in

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<v Speaker 1>my right arm. It is just another reason I know

0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:08.159
<v Speaker 1>God's real because it wouldn't have worked if it was

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<v Speaker 1>my left. It had to be my right, my right arm.

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<v Speaker 1>Other than burns and shouting, the wounds to work fine,

0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:19.879
<v Speaker 1>I was able to hold my right hand up in

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<v Speaker 1>the back of this humb Every marine that I needed

0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:25.600
<v Speaker 1>to talk to, I got to talk to him and

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<v Speaker 1>hold their right hand and tell them how much I

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<v Speaker 1>love them and I respected them, and that they had

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<v Speaker 1>so much to do with me being the marine that

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<v Speaker 1>I am. And I remember telling the guys even the

0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:40.199
<v Speaker 1>guys that didn't want to look at me, and I

0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:44.159
<v Speaker 1>remember yelling at him to look at me and to

0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:46.560
<v Speaker 1>take a good look at me, because this is what

0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:49.639
<v Speaker 1>they want to do, and you have to fight forward,

0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:51.880
<v Speaker 1>you have to fight for me. I'm out of the fight.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember when the guys were telling me, this

0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:58.520
<v Speaker 1>is your bird home, brother, it's your bird home, Jake.

0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:02.879
<v Speaker 1>Every time they said her to piss me off, because

0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I was home. Wherever they were was my home. That's

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<v Speaker 1>my family, and I to this day feel that way

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<v Speaker 1>strongly that they're my family.

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<v Speaker 2>In that moment, what was it like to spend that

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<v Speaker 2>final bit of time with your family in your home.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, after talking to the guys and the marine

0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Bravado going out the door and just being completely vulnerable

0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:33.919
<v Speaker 1>and leading with love in this moment, because it was

0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I had already made peace with the fact that as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as I get on that bird, you know I'm done,

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<v Speaker 1>as that was a deal I may with God, and

0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm a manimal word. And I remember I'd had enough

0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:52.359
<v Speaker 1>of havingough being poked and prodded and bandaged up and

0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:56.600
<v Speaker 1>unbandaged and bandaged up, and yelling why don't I hear

0:21:56.680 --> 0:22:01.320
<v Speaker 1>rhotors again. Every second the past, I got a little

0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:04.639
<v Speaker 1>weaker and a little weaker and a little weaker, and

0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:08.399
<v Speaker 1>I was starting to worry that I wasn't going to

0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:11.359
<v Speaker 1>be able to make it to the bird. I was

0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:15.520
<v Speaker 1>so hyper focused and convicted and not dying in front

0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:19.080
<v Speaker 1>of them because I didn't want them the last thing

0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:21.800
<v Speaker 1>to see if me was my dead body, because I

0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:23.919
<v Speaker 1>love them and respect them too much for that, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's not how I want them to remember me. I

0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:29.359
<v Speaker 1>wanted them to remember me fighting and going out like

0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:32.399
<v Speaker 1>a gladiator like I am, and that's why I was

0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:35.080
<v Speaker 1>so convicted in it, and I didn't want to do

0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:37.600
<v Speaker 1>that to him. The last thing you ever want to

0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:40.080
<v Speaker 1>do is let one of them down. And I finally

0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:43.879
<v Speaker 1>remember hearing the roads of the helicopter and landing, and

0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:46.639
<v Speaker 1>they're carrying me to the bird. Right before the guys

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<v Speaker 1>loaded me, you know, Doc was having to put bandages

0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:51.000
<v Speaker 1>on me and then take them off and put them

0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:53.160
<v Speaker 1>on me because I was bleeding through these bandages. When

0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:55.280
<v Speaker 1>they were loading me on the bird, the rotor wash

0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:58.960
<v Speaker 1>from the black Hawk blew up the bandages, and the

0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:02.399
<v Speaker 1>sand being so fine, blewe into all my wounds. Like

0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe it just got worse, which is why

0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:08.119
<v Speaker 1>one of the sayings that I love to say is

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:10.400
<v Speaker 1>that physical pain reminds you you're a live but mental

0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:13.280
<v Speaker 1>pain will test your will to stay that way. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget when Michael Toon Sargeant, I respected the

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<v Speaker 1>shit out of He called me Jack London because my

0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:24.560
<v Speaker 1>grandfather is Jack London chick, and uncle is Jacq London

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:27.040
<v Speaker 1>shit jinner, and I guess Jake's is not that cool

0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:28.960
<v Speaker 1>of a name, so he called me Jack London all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Got on the bird, he was the last

0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:35.199
<v Speaker 1>one on, and he kissed me on my forehead and

0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:39.480
<v Speaker 1>he was trying not to cry, and he said, we'll

0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:43.240
<v Speaker 1>see you's soon, Jack London, and I knew he was lying.

0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Remember when he got off the bird, look out to

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<v Speaker 1>my left and I see the guys looking up. And

0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:57.679
<v Speaker 1>that was the hardest part of all of it. I

0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:03.360
<v Speaker 1>was leaving then, what's clear I still struggle with So.

0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I felt this abundance of guilt about that.

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:09.360
<v Speaker 1>That didn't leave me for a very long time. At

0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 1>that point, I started to feel like I was hanging

0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:15.320
<v Speaker 1>on him by a thread and got the attention on

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:19.440
<v Speaker 1>one of the litter crew. Here's this young kid. I'll

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:22.160
<v Speaker 1>never forget how young he looked, which is not saying

0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:25.119
<v Speaker 1>a lot, because of jeurias of us over there were kids,

0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:28.160
<v Speaker 1>but I mean this kid, it was like he had

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:30.280
<v Speaker 1>never even taken a razor to his face, and he

0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:33.560
<v Speaker 1>looked that young. And I remember him avoiding me like

0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:36.920
<v Speaker 1>the flag, almost like my near death was gonna rub

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:38.680
<v Speaker 1>off on him. And I don't blame him at all

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:41.480
<v Speaker 1>for that. I mean, until you've been in that situation,

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:44.720
<v Speaker 1>you can't possibly understand it. But I got his attention

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:47.919
<v Speaker 1>on my right hand. To his credit, he did not

0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 1>hesitate coming over to me, and he leaned over me

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:55.160
<v Speaker 1>and he pulled his left headset over his left ear,

0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:57.880
<v Speaker 1>pulled it off back behind his left ear, and put

0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:01.000
<v Speaker 1>his left ear right over my mouth. And he got

0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:04.080
<v Speaker 1>right up next to me, and I yelled, how long,

0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 1>put it back over his ear, and he read it

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 1>up front of the captain, and he came back and

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:13.199
<v Speaker 1>he yelled in my right ear, and he yelled twelve mics,

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:18.840
<v Speaker 1>which means twelve minutes. And I remember thinking to myself,

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you can do twelve more minutes. And I immediately talked

0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 1>to guy again and I said, hey, big man, I'm

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to renig on that original verbal agreement because

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I think I got twelve more minutes in me as

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>if I had a choice. You know, it's not. I

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:38.120
<v Speaker 1>don't think for the most part, it's up to us

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:42.680
<v Speaker 1>when we get to make the call. But I remember

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:46.600
<v Speaker 1>leaving the guys and looking down and seeing them, and

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:49.720
<v Speaker 1>my will to fight to stay alive was all but

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:54.679
<v Speaker 1>gone because I had already accepted this is it and

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 1>I was going out exactly the way I wanted to

0:25:56.720 --> 0:26:02.919
<v Speaker 1>go out as a warrior. But then here in twelve minutes,

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:06.360
<v Speaker 1>I was like, how far can I push this thing?

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:14.399
<v Speaker 2>You talk about the hardest part of that day was

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:17.359
<v Speaker 2>saying goodbye to your brothers. That's a bond that so

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:23.359
<v Speaker 2>many people don't experience. What is that bond to you? Then?

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:25.760
<v Speaker 2>And still eighteen years later.

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:29.439
<v Speaker 1>Where I learned that there was nothing special about my

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>pain and suffering was a Marine Corps because regardless of

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:33.959
<v Speaker 1>what I was going through, all I had to do

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 1>was look to my left and my right is they

0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 1>were going through the same thing. There's not many people

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 1>you get to meet in life that would take a

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<v Speaker 1>bullet for you without hesitation. And the fact that I

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 1>know dozens and dozens and dozens at eighteen years later,

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 1>zero hesitation would die so I could live. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>put that into words.

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 2>People just assume you tell your story and it's easy,

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 2>but it's never easy. I can see you go back

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:09.280
<v Speaker 2>to that day you relive it. Why did you start

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 2>telling the story in the.

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>First place, great question, And it was because my grandmother

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 1>told me to to a rotary club. It was the

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>first time I had to tell it, and because no

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 1>one tells their grandparents, no, And I remember I told

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>this story to a room full of people that were

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 1>forty or fifty years my senior. And it was horrible.

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 1>And I was still on drugs and it was all

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I could do was think, think about getting high, and

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 1>I knew it was horrible, and I was sweating grenades

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 1>and I was so nervous. And I remember walking out

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:49.679
<v Speaker 1>of the side door of this clubhouse area where her

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:52.679
<v Speaker 1>rotary club was, and I remember walking out and I

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.400
<v Speaker 1>went to go light a cigarette, and she walked out

0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:58.120
<v Speaker 1>and she put her hand on me and she said,

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 1>how do you feel. I looked at her and I

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:04.119
<v Speaker 1>said lighter, and she said good. That was the point

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:06.120
<v Speaker 1>and walked away, and I was like.

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:07.879
<v Speaker 2>Okay, MEMI knows best.

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>She's smarter than I am or ever will be.

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Meme, he knows best. Married to a World War two warrior,

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:17.359
<v Speaker 2>Talk to me about scars.

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:20.720
<v Speaker 1>The ones that are the most important to who you

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:25.400
<v Speaker 1>are aren't visible, and you know to me, I've had

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:27.919
<v Speaker 1>guys tell me like, I'm envious of your prosthetic and

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 1>your left leg and left arm because it's obvious, it's

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:36.399
<v Speaker 1>obvious you were hurt. You can't see my scars, and

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 1>years and years and years ago, I used to take

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 1>offense because it's like, how dare you have no idea

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>what I've been through physically? But obviously, with time and

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 1>maturity and wisdom, I totally understand where they're coming from.

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 1>And I agree, I completely agree. It's the scars you

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 1>can't see that are the most debilitating your well being

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>if you let them be. People need to understand that

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>seeing is not always believing, and that's why you can't

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 1>judge a book by its cover, because none of us

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 1>know what we don't know. And it's like I tell

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 1>the tribe all the time, and treat everybody you meet

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 1>as if they have a broken heart, because you never

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 1>know love and be loved. That's it.

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 2>You're one of the strongest people I know physically, and

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 2>there's so many words that are warrior esque that can

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 2>describe you and who you are. Talk to me about

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 2>mental strength.

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 1>It's your beginning, your middle, and your end. You know,

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the physicality is not always going to be there. If

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 1>people get hurt or injured, accidents happen, and those can

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>be repaired. It's like I had to have my right

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 1>foot cut off and now, you know, to be amputated

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 1>two or three more times, and now I have a prosthetic,

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>but it's a tool. There is no prosthetic for the brain.

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 1>You have the one you have. That's it. That happens

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>to be connected to your heart, which is connected to

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 1>your soul. And the brain is the most powerful weapon

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>any of us will ever possess. And I've done a

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of work to make sure that mine can function

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and operate at the highest ability that's even possible, especially

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>for someone who's diagnosed with traumatic brain injury and push

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 1>my e stress and for me, mental strength will carry

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>someone so much further than physical strength. And it's something

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that I started working on as a little kid because

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I had to. The only downfall to it is that

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 1>it can also be your worst asset, because stubbornness and

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>pride can take control of you and do a lot

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 1>of damage. And I've got a track record of that too.

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm a firm believer in truly believing in who you

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>are and being comfortable inside your skin, regardless of what

0:30:56.440 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>it looks like or doesn't look like, because every breath

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>is a gift. That mental strength is going to carry

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you through a lot of times that you wouldn't fathom

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 1>you would go through. But that's why you need to

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 1>be so convicted in who you are and why I've

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 1>done so much work to be convicted and who I

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 1>am and understand that I'm a moratal human being, just

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>like everybody else that was given a second shot. I'm

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 1>by no means perfect, but I'm going to fight like

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>hell until i can't fight like hell?

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 2>What do you do to relax? Recharge?

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Not enough?

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 2>That's true for all of us.

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Though, right, Yeah, A lot of times I hear I'm

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>doing my best, and I'm like, are you explain that

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>to me?

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 2>I've heard you say that to me about.

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I know, but it's like you when I hear that, yeah,

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 1>we're not meant to be one hundred miles an hour

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 1>all the time, and we're not meant we need to

0:31:54.480 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>slow down and be present and just listen. Listen to

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>the wind, be out in nature, watch a sunset, be

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>grateful for that because it is It is the small

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>things that we take for granted that ultimately, when you

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 1>do not have them, you realize how much you've missed

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 1>out on. And I learned that. I mean, I was

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 1>in the hospital for a long time and I didn't

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 1>see sunsets, and I didn't get to talk to people

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 1>I love all the time, and I didn't get to

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 1>know if my guys were okay, and I didn't get

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 1>to know if I was going to make it through

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>this twenty hour operation or this surgery or that surgery.

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>And so I mean, attitude of gratitude is easy to say,

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's catchy and it rhymes, but unless

0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>it's something you put into practice every day, it's really

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 1>hard to grasp out of thin air. And so for me,

0:32:54.400 --> 0:33:00.959
<v Speaker 1>I find a relaxation and recharging is being with my family.

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean being with you and the boys, my brothers,

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 1>and my nephew, my niece and yours and your family,

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 1>driving around a ranch and being out in nature, or

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 1>it's being present at a ballgame or just watching sports,

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 1>not allowing the societal noise to pierce that moment. Is

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I find that to be very therapeutic to me. It's

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I got a marine buddy that you know tells me

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 1>is like, I've Jacob, never met a human being like

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.960
<v Speaker 1>you that you find therapy in every single thing you do.

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I was forced to. I mean, I was so angry

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>for so long and so bitter for so long that

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 1>it was like, I need to stop wasting time. And

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 1>it's it's still a struggle.

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 2>We all have, you know, our good days and our

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 2>bad days, and some days it's easier than others. But yeah,

0:33:57.880 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 2>time is our most precious commodity. We have to do

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 2>the best with what we've got and what we've got left.

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Thinking back, is there one individual or organization that's made

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 2>a big impact on your life? I mean, I'm laughing

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:13.320
<v Speaker 2>even asking you the question, because I know there's so many.

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's an ongoing list. It's longer than probably

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:23.360
<v Speaker 1>everybody else's list. I mean, yeah, just thinking back to

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>my childhood, even it's my grandmother played such a pivotal

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 1>role and me understanding what it means to be an American,

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 1>instilling that in me at such a young age and

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>teaching me and showing me things that most four and

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.320
<v Speaker 1>five year olds don't get to see because it's too much.

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 1>And I'm so grateful for that because she explained to

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 1>me the real world. She didn't put me in a

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 1>protective bubble and take the notion of what you know,

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 1>he'll figure it out when he figures it out. No,

0:34:57.480 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 1>she's the one that taught me to be the father

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 1>that I and you know, my father was didn't really

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 1>ride us growing up, and he would give his sound

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 1>advice and you listener, you don't. Then a lot of

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 1>the time we didn't. Then the world patched us in

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:17.880
<v Speaker 1>the mouth, and then we learned. I mean so many

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:21.280
<v Speaker 1>teachers that put up with my shit for so long,

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 1>and just so many coaches and even athletic trainers and

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 1>even friends' parents. And there's just such a long list

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 1>that if I named one, it would do so many

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 1>an injustice. I am where I am because of a

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 1>countless number of people and organizations, to include the Marine Corps,

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 1>because the hospital and VAMPSI or Samsea and San Antonio

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 1>and even March Air Force Base. My commanding officer that

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:59.279
<v Speaker 1>medically retired me, such an inspirational human being, and he's

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:02.319
<v Speaker 1>just a Marine's my first order, I mean, my gun.

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:04.839
<v Speaker 1>I could just go on and on and on and on,

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:09.839
<v Speaker 1>and just so many people that just their presence by

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 1>default makes you want to be a better human. And

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm just fortunate in that fact that I know a

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:17.839
<v Speaker 1>lot of those people, and I mean some that are

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 1>well known and some that aren't that are all equally

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:22.320
<v Speaker 1>important to me.

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, So my last question that you know, we agreed

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 2>we wanted to ask everyone we interviewed on the good stuff,

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 2>what feeds your soul?

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 1>You the boys, the fact that I know I'm fundamentally flawed,

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:43.959
<v Speaker 1>and then not only do I want to be better,

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I need to be better for y'all and fighting like

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>hell to get to whatever that end goal is because

0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:57.800
<v Speaker 1>I know that I need to be at my best

0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 1>if I'm gonna truly affect We help people, help people

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>who help people, and so on and so forth. I

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 1>mean that that's what feeds my soul and gives me

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:12.200
<v Speaker 1>conviction to be better tomorrow than I was today, because

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 1>it's there's no subtle point, there's no point of like, Okay,

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm good ever till I die, you know, as you know,

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 1>like I'm gonna I have an innate ability to push

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:30.239
<v Speaker 1>people to the n degree because just like I tell you,

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.359
<v Speaker 1>even when I feel like I can't give any more,

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:33.799
<v Speaker 1>I know there's a lot more to give.

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:37.040
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's so important that we continue to

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 2>tap into it. Right, It's an everyday thing. It's not

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 2>a one time thing like you always teach me. This

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:44.760
<v Speaker 2>is an ongoing evolution.

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of growing will die, eternal students.

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Of life exactly. I love you, I appreciate you. I'm

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 2>so grateful for you having the courage to tell this story,

0:37:57.120 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 2>to dig so deep and of this day, but also

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 2>for all of the work that you've done since.

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Then.

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:08.799
<v Speaker 2>Clearly your story didn't end that day on the battlefield,

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:13.240
<v Speaker 2>because you're here still fighting like hell to make this world,

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:18.840
<v Speaker 2>make this country, make your family, make yourself better. And

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it's such a beautiful thing. I'm so honored

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:25.760
<v Speaker 2>and grateful to be your life partner.

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 1>You're worth it, bid then you know we're worth it,

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 1>and everybody's worth it. It's an honor to do this

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 1>crazy thing called life with you, you know, because it's God.

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:43.880
<v Speaker 1>It's just such a it's such a rarity to be

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 1>able to live with conviction and pure openness and to

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 1>be able to find victory and your vulnerability while refusing

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>to be oscious to your pride. I mean, it is

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 1>is demanding because you have to have you have to

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>let go of the fear of ridicule and judgment placed

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:06.279
<v Speaker 1>in those categorical boxes so you can be defined. You know,

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 1>iron sharpens iron. So thank you.

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, all boats rise right. Thank you for being a

0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:16.759
<v Speaker 2>guest on your own podcast. I know you didn't want to,

0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:20.920
<v Speaker 2>but I mean, I think it's important for people to

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 2>know our why, and our why is because of what

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 2>we've been through, what we've lived through, and how we

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:29.200
<v Speaker 2>lean in every day and try to focus on gratitude

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 2>because it doesn't matter the person standing in front of you.

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:37.320
<v Speaker 2>They've got a story. Everyone has a story.

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:39.799
<v Speaker 1>I think it's important for people to know two that

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 1>it's not that I didn't want to, because clearly I

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:44.759
<v Speaker 1>do this all over the world. It's like I told

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 1>you this, it's not about me, you know, but I

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>do want people to understand this isn't for attention or

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 1>for people to know our name, or this is for

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 1>people to get a perspective to help them make it

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:04.720
<v Speaker 1>through that valley in order to get to that peak

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:09.360
<v Speaker 1>and understand that they're a myriad of modalities that you

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:13.399
<v Speaker 1>can utilize on a daily basis to help you. If

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 1>you just wake up and just survive, that's okay. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to thrive every day that's your goal. But

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<v Speaker 1>if sometimes you just survive, that's okay. And that's the

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<v Speaker 1>point is that sometimes you just need a fresh perspective

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<v Speaker 1>to take the next.

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<v Speaker 2>Step exactly, get busy getting better or just get busy.

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<v Speaker 2>Jacob Shick, thank you so much for being on the

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<v Speaker 2>Good Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley Shick, thank you for being on the Good Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>As we wrapped this thirtieth episode of The Good Stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to say a heartfelt thank you. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for listening, thank you for all the emails and reviews,

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<v Speaker 1>and for sharing with us how much this show has touched.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you to each of our guests who dug so

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<v Speaker 2>deep and shared with us their scars and let us

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<v Speaker 2>celebrate their victories. From our incredible producer, Nick Cassolini, From

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<v Speaker 2>Jacob and myself, thank you so much for listening. If

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<v Speaker 2>this episode touched you, please share it and be part

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<v Speaker 2>of making someone else's day better.

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<v Speaker 1>Put on your bad ass capes and go be great today,

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<v Speaker 1>and remember you can't do epic stuff without epic people.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for listening to Season one of the Good Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>The Good Stuff is executive produced by Ashley Schick, Jacob Schick,

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<v Speaker 1>Leah Pictures, and q Code Media, Hosted by Ashley Shick

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<v Speaker 1>and Jacob Shick, Produced by Nick Cassolini and Ryan Countshouse.

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<v Speaker 1>Post production Supervisor Will Tindy. Music by Will Tindy, sound

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<v Speaker 1>effects by Eric Aaron