1 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Good Stuff. I'm Jacob Shick and I'm 2 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: joined by my co host and wife, Ashley Shick. 3 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: Jake is a third generation combat Marine and I'm a 4 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: gold Star granddaughter. We work together to serve military veterans, 5 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: first responders, frontline healthcare workers, and their families with mental 6 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 2: and emotional wellness through traditional and non traditional therapy. At 7 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 2: One Tribe Foundation, we believe everyone has. 8 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: A story to tell, not only about the peaks, but 9 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: also the valleys they've been through to get them to 10 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: where they are today. 11 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: Each week, we invite a guest to tell us their story, 12 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: to share with us the lessons they've learned that shaped 13 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: who they are and what they're doing to pay it 14 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: forward and give back. 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: Our mission with this show is to dig deep in 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: our guest journey so that we can celebrate the hope 17 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: and inspiration their story has to offer. 18 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: We are thrilled you're joining us again. 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Good Stuff. 20 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: Welcome to our season one finale. Thank you so much 21 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: for listening over the last thirty episodes. We are truly 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: grateful for your support and hope. This podcast has provided 23 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: inspiration and hope for each of you, like it has 24 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: for us, thanks for making this show what it is 25 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: and what it's growing into, and for those of you 26 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: that have been listening all along and learning about the 27 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: two of us over the course of season one. We 28 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: wanted to bring the podcast full circle an end where 29 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: we started with our own story. 30 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: I strongly second everything Ash said, because without you, guys, 31 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: there is no show. And really we're coming full circle 32 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: because today our guest is me telling my version of 33 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: the story of when I was severely injured while serving 34 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: this country. I do a lot of public speaking, and 35 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: this is a story I've told many many times, but 36 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: this recording is different because it's intimate. It's to my wife, 37 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: just two of us in a room, and I am 38 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: going to dig deep to go back to that day 39 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: in that place and remember it just the way I 40 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: remember it every single day, but on a much deeper level, 41 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: because I think that that's only fair because of what 42 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: our guest has given us, I think I owe it 43 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: to all of you to do the same. 44 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: With that said, Jacob Schick, welcome to the season one 45 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: finale of The Good Stuff. Today we're going to hear 46 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: about the day you were injured while serving our country 47 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: in Iraq. Nearly twenty years ago. At the time, you 48 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: were twenty two years old on your first deployment in 49 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: the Sunni Triangle of Iraq. 50 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: It was September twentieth, two thousand and four, about five am, 51 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: and I'm the leader of the reacting Reacting is very 52 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: similar to the QRF, which means quick Reaction Force. And 53 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: what happens is we get called when there's a threat 54 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: in IRIB operation that needs to be neutralized. And I 55 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: was sitting in the hum V next to Doc because 56 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: it was his turn to be on watch, and I 57 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: was debriefing with Doc about this high stress situation that 58 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: we just had with the Iraqi National Guard, and I 59 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: was still very much coming off my adrenaline high and 60 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: the guys had already betted down inside the tent. Once 61 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: that adrenaline dump wears off, Like you just knows dive, 62 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: there's always just super high highs and super low low 63 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: so there's very little in between. And so I remember 64 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: when I walked into the tent, you know, that's where 65 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: I find my moment of solace and sit down on 66 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: my cot trying to be quiet because I know the 67 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: guys need sleep. I kick the boots off, which is 68 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: like taking a deep breath, laying in your bed at 69 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: the end of a long day, knowing, Okay, whatever my 70 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: abnormal baseline is, I can get to it right now, 71 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: even for a minute. And I laid down on my 72 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: cot and within fifteen minutes a react got called, and 73 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: I remember just feeling bad for the guys because I 74 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: knew that everybody was tired and hungry, getting thirsty and miserable. 75 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: I just remember smiling because I was like, you know, 76 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: Murphy's law, it's just never ending. So I get up 77 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: and I put my boots on. I wake all the 78 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: guys up. And the way we do it is not 79 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: by rubbing their backs and whispering sweet nothing's in their ear. 80 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: You know, It's just not the way we do it 81 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: in the Marine Corps. And I got everybody up and 82 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: told them we got to react and get moving. 83 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 2: And I know you've told me before. A react is 84 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 2: basically a response by your unit to a threat in 85 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: your area of operation. 86 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: All the guys are rustling and growing and mumbling, and 87 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: as they should. We were exhausted. Everybody was exhausted. We 88 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: were tired. We weren't physically beaten up, but we were 89 00:04:55,000 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: pretty emotionally exhausted. The moment I breached the outside of 90 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: the tent, I felt it, and I knew we were 91 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: going to get hit. 92 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 2: Where did that feeling come from? 93 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: I believe that that was a combination of God and 94 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: my grandfather talking to me from beyond the grave. And 95 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: I felt that it was so real and so convicting 96 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: that I knew whatever I feel from this point forward, 97 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: no matter what happens, I have to listen to it, 98 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: which is my gut. I remember stopping for a moment 99 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: and having a lot of nervousness come over me, and 100 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: I looked to my right and all nine of the 101 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: other Marines and the REACT team were walking to the 102 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: two humbies to get ready to go on this react. 103 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: I remember seeing a couple of them dragging their flack 104 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: jackets and having their boots unlaced, and because it was 105 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: just it's so the antithesis of what people think of, 106 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: most likely when they think of them. 107 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: Corps, right, because Marines are always so buttoned up and 108 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 2: squared away. 109 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: I remember looking at him and I felt this overwhelming 110 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: sense of love and respect for him, and I just 111 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: remember thinking to myself, like I am so freaking it 112 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: honored that those are my brothers. Right after that, I 113 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: look to my left and I see my commanding officers 114 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: HUMBE and I knew he had a bomb blanket and 115 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: somebody somewhere God my grandfather told me to go get 116 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: that bomb blanket. 117 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 2: And a bomb blanket is that one more layer of 118 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: protection that you need in your vehicle should you get hit. 119 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: So I went and opened the passenger door of his 120 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: HUMV and I take the bomb blanket out, and I 121 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: start walking to the two vehicles and I go to 122 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: the lead vehicle. The driver was in the driver's seat 123 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: and I told him scoot over. I got it. And 124 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: he looked at me. He's like, no, bro, I got it. 125 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: And I said, I'm not asking you, you know, kind 126 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: of irritated him because we were very close and I'd 127 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: never really given a direct order. And I remember he's 128 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: scooted over the passer seat known as the ay driver. 129 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: And I go to the reach back to the back 130 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: and grab the radio from radio man. It's between five 131 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: and six in the morning, it's like right before sun up. 132 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: And I remember telling the guys button up your shatter 133 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: proof goggles, your keV lar, your helmet and at this point. 134 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: I knew that the guys knew that something wasn't right. 135 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: I mean, when it's one hundred and thirty degrees and 136 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: you're wearing a ninety pound combat load, you don't need 137 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: help being uncomfortable. And they knew that I had a 138 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: feeling about something. And I remember getting in the driver's 139 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: seat after I put the bomb blanket down, and I 140 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: have the radio in my right hand because something told 141 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: me drive with your left, talk with your right, and 142 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: I punched it. And by the time we go around 143 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: this turn and I'm talking with the watchtower, we called 144 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: the react. It was trying to get us on target. 145 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: We're trying to walk us on target. And I knew 146 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: that I had to take this road because there was 147 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: one way in and one way out of this area 148 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: in do Live, Iraq. I just have to sail on 149 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: this road until I can make a turn to get 150 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: off the road and off the tracks to make a 151 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: beeline to wherever the thread is. And I came over 152 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: this hill. There was at least a twenty or thirty 153 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: meter area that was soft sand on this one road. 154 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: The rest of it was like compact, so compact it 155 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: was as hard as cement, but this one area that 156 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: was part of a dried up waddy or a dried 157 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: up riverbed had soft sand. 158 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: Why is soft sand dangerous? 159 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: The thing is when you see the soft sand off 160 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: of a hard compact surface, you know that if there 161 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: is an a media threat in the form of a 162 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: bomb or an ied and provides a supposed device, it's 163 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: going to be there. Within hitting that soft sand, it 164 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: was maybe maybe two seconds and the front left tire 165 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: may contact the pressure plate. The way this works is 166 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: it was a triple stacked anti tank mine. The pressure 167 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: plate goes down and the lights of fuse and the 168 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: bombs go off, and that made the front left tire. 169 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: Once it made contact, it blew directly beneath me. So 170 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: many things happen before I'm ejected out of the hum V. 171 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: The firewall on the humbe folded so that broke my 172 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,599 Speaker 1: right foot. A piece of shrapnel or a piece of 173 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: the hum vy went through the bottom of my left 174 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: arm that I was driving with and came out the top. 175 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: Then the steering wheel and the dashboard disengaged and hit 176 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: me in my chest, which is on the front of 177 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: our flat jackets is where we wear all of our magazines, 178 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: where we keep all of our AMMO for quick and 179 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: easy access, which made all my magazines explode, and it 180 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: also broke every one of my rips. In this process, 181 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: I had a piece of shrapnel go through the right 182 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: lens of my goggles. Then I was ejected. I was 183 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: blown thirty feet to the top of the humbe because 184 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: we operated in two door, soft top humb's, And I 185 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: remember being in the air knowing this is very, very bad. 186 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: Leave you remember all of these details on something that 187 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: happened in the blink of an eye, as if it 188 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: was in slow motion. We left you off, with you 189 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: literally mid air. After the explosion, I. 190 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: Ended up landing ways away from the reacting and I 191 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: stuck the landing with my head because I'm a marine 192 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: and we believe in good form. My ears were just 193 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: ringing and ringing, and it was just so loud, and 194 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: I smelt smoke fire. All the sand was still this 195 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: huge cloud. Because the sand is so fine, it's like 196 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: baby powder fine that it takes forever when there's an 197 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: explosion or even when you're driving for it to settle, 198 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: And it's not like dust on a dirt road, which 199 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: settles fairly quickly. I mean this stuff just it's like 200 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: it floats in the air. And so I still couldn't 201 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: see where the vehicles were, and I couldn't figure out 202 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: where I was. But then my age driver started yelling 203 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: check Chick, and I remember trying to immediately make my 204 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: way back to the lead vehicle, and I was going 205 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: towards the sound of his voice. And so I started 206 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: pulling myself with my right arm, and I was trying 207 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: to move my whole body and the only thing that 208 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: would function or even move was my right arm. So 209 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: as I'm pulling, I realized I don't have a weapon, 210 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: and so I start to move my left arm, which 211 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: was just flopping around, and I knew it was broken. 212 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: I didn't even have to look, but I was waiting 213 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: for my arm to hit metal at the rail system 214 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: of my sixteen, and I couldn't find it. And then 215 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: I looked down and I could see with my left 216 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: eye of it, I wasn't going anywhere. I was just 217 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: scooping sand. The whole time I'm hearing shack Hick. This 218 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: crush my soul is when he broke military protocol and 219 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: he just yelled my first name, and he just yelled Jacob, 220 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: and it was this blood curdling scream of desperosity just 221 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: to have any sign of me, because I'm sure when 222 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: he looks in the passenger seat and all these seas 223 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: or my rounds from my magazines and my blood, but 224 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: no me. I remember when he did that, and it 225 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: broke my heart. I couldn't get to him, and I 226 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: was trying hard, and it just crushed me because I 227 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: loved him so much and I wanted him to know, like, 228 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: hey man, I'm okay, and too, like stop yelling, because 229 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: you're making us a target. Stop yelling. 230 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: Why what were you afraid of? 231 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know if we were going to take on 232 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: small arms fire. I didn't know if there was going 233 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: to be a second attack. I didn't know. So at 234 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: that point, I realized, I'm not gonna be able to 235 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: get to where he is, and I need to do 236 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: a self assessment. And I remember looking down at my 237 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: left leg and starting my self assessment to see what 238 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: kind of aid I can render myself if I'm even 239 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: able to do that, and I saw my phibia, my tibia, 240 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: sticking out of my left leg, and my left leg 241 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: was wrapped around itself and my foot was inverted and 242 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: turned upside down. My boot was blown off, my combat boot, 243 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: and I remember thinking when I saw that two things. 244 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: One that's not supposed to be like that, and two 245 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: this was a significant amount of force to be able 246 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: to blow my combat boot off of my foot and 247 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: not take my foot with it. And I remember looking 248 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: at my right leg, which looked normal, and it hurt 249 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: like hell, and I knew it was broken, but it 250 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: looked normal. I worked my way up and got to 251 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: my left arm and saw daylight through my left arm. 252 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: It blew out five inches on out of my left arm, 253 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: my own the bone, and then part of my left hand, 254 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: probably gonna lose the left leg, lose the left arm. 255 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: And then I look at my right arm and I 256 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: just see s trapping, the wounds, a couple of minor burns. 257 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't see my own face, but I felt trapping 258 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: alver my face and my chin and my neck, so 259 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: I knew I was really wounded. At this point, I 260 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: still hadn't taken a breath when I got hit by 261 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: the steering wheel and just collapsed my lungs. I wasn't 262 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: able to breathe laying there after my self assessment, and 263 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: I just remember telling God, all I ask is that 264 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: you don't take me in front of my brothers. Because 265 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: I knew I was dying. This was most likely going 266 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: to be my last day on the planet, and so 267 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: my hyper focus became not dying in front of my brothers. 268 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: And the deal I made with God was, as soon 269 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: as the bird gets here and those kids leave the deck, 270 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm all yours. All I ask of you is to 271 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: not allow my family to watch me die. And I 272 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: became hyper focused on staying alive for as long as 273 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: that took. Little did I know it was going to 274 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: take as long as it did. But I was able 275 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: to really focus on that and dig into something that 276 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: I knew I had but I rarely had to tap into. 277 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: At which point I could hear a couple of the 278 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: guys coming up, and the majority of them are standing 279 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: around me, and you know, we got you, Shike, we 280 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: got you, brother, and I looked up and the first 281 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: thing I said, up, grace of God, I was able 282 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: to take a breath, and the first thing I said 283 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: was developed through sixty, which means set up a security perimeter. 284 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: And I remember the look on their faces like oh, 285 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: oh yeah, and I was like, yeah, we're at war, 286 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: and I don't feel like all of us getting shot. 287 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: Was you looking at me? Set up the three sixty, 288 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: several of them went up, set up the security perimmer. 289 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: A few of them picked me up and took me 290 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: to the second Humby that was not didn't take any 291 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: damage because at this point the pain didn't necessarily set 292 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: in yet. But I knew it was coming. And by 293 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: the time they got me in the vehicle in the 294 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: back of the second Humbye to take me to the 295 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: command post, and it started setting in. The more painful 296 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: it it became, the angrier I got. And I remember, 297 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: they get me to the command post and Doc straight 298 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: they're ready to go, ready to work on me. And 299 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: it was one of those moments that were surreal because 300 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: I was I felt like just minutes ago, I was 301 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: sitting with them and we were just talking and I 302 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: was trying to come down off this adrill on high 303 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: and yet here he is just straight up in work 304 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: mode and he's talking to me and I'm just yelling 305 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: at him. You hit me, Doc, hit me with the morphine, 306 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: and he did, and he hit me twice and that's 307 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 1: the only time he would hit me. And it was 308 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: putting a needle in your thigh and releasing some morphine 309 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: into you. And I was pissed because he had only 310 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: hit me twice and I knew he had more. And 311 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm yelling at this guy who I love and I 312 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: respect and calling him a stingy bastard. At this point, 313 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm in fight mode, fighting for my own life. You 314 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: had this other marine that was with Doc, that did 315 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: this additional training to help Doc with these situations where 316 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: he had a little more know how when it came 317 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: to providing medical care to the Marines and to the enemy, 318 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: which we did. This particular marine he stepped on my 319 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: left leg and obviously was an accident. He didn't mean 320 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: to do. It really pissed me off. The complete antithesis 321 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: of politely asking him to go away is what I 322 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: told him, And I remember him getting emotional, and I 323 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: remember that pissing me off more. And so if you 324 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: haven't picked up on it yet, anger is a very 325 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: high octane fuel for me that I've learned to utilize 326 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: over the years to help get me through the valleys 327 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: to the peak. And I've used it as a motivator 328 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: and a lot of bad but also in a lot 329 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: more good and I remember hearing my tuning commander given 330 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: talking over the net or the radio to our battalion 331 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: back at the base and alasade I distinctly remember him saying, 332 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: We've got to get the spreen out of here. He's 333 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: category four and he's rapidly approaching category five. Category four 334 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: means urg a surgery, Category five meaning expectant not going 335 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: to make it. And I knew he was right because 336 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: every minute that passed I felt life leaving my body, 337 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: and I knew I've just got to keep fighting, got 338 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: to keep fighting. And I was very, very very grateful 339 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: to be in the back of that hume Bee in 340 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: my right arm. It is just another reason I know 341 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: God's real because it wouldn't have worked if it was 342 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: my left. It had to be my right, my right arm. 343 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: Other than burns and shouting, the wounds to work fine, 344 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: I was able to hold my right hand up in 345 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: the back of this humb Every marine that I needed 346 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: to talk to, I got to talk to him and 347 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: hold their right hand and tell them how much I 348 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: love them and I respected them, and that they had 349 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: so much to do with me being the marine that 350 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: I am. And I remember telling the guys even the 351 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: guys that didn't want to look at me, and I 352 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: remember yelling at him to look at me and to 353 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: take a good look at me, because this is what 354 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: they want to do, and you have to fight forward, 355 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: you have to fight for me. I'm out of the fight. 356 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: And I remember when the guys were telling me, this 357 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: is your bird home, brother, it's your bird home, Jake. 358 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: Every time they said her to piss me off, because 359 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: I was home. Wherever they were was my home. That's 360 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: my family, and I to this day feel that way 361 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: strongly that they're my family. 362 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 2: In that moment, what was it like to spend that 363 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: final bit of time with your family in your home. 364 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: I remember, after talking to the guys and the marine 365 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: Bravado going out the door and just being completely vulnerable 366 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 1: and leading with love in this moment, because it was 367 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: I had already made peace with the fact that as 368 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: soon as I get on that bird, you know I'm done, 369 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: as that was a deal I may with God, and 370 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm a manimal word. And I remember I'd had enough 371 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: of havingough being poked and prodded and bandaged up and 372 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: unbandaged and bandaged up, and yelling why don't I hear 373 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: rhotors again. Every second the past, I got a little 374 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: weaker and a little weaker and a little weaker, and 375 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: I was starting to worry that I wasn't going to 376 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: be able to make it to the bird. I was 377 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: so hyper focused and convicted and not dying in front 378 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: of them because I didn't want them the last thing 379 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: to see if me was my dead body, because I 380 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: love them and respect them too much for that, and 381 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: that's not how I want them to remember me. I 382 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: wanted them to remember me fighting and going out like 383 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: a gladiator like I am, and that's why I was 384 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: so convicted in it, and I didn't want to do 385 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: that to him. The last thing you ever want to 386 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: do is let one of them down. And I finally 387 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: remember hearing the roads of the helicopter and landing, and 388 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: they're carrying me to the bird. Right before the guys 389 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: loaded me, you know, Doc was having to put bandages 390 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: on me and then take them off and put them 391 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: on me because I was bleeding through these bandages. When 392 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: they were loading me on the bird, the rotor wash 393 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: from the black Hawk blew up the bandages, and the 394 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: sand being so fine, blewe into all my wounds. Like 395 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: I can't believe it just got worse, which is why 396 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: one of the sayings that I love to say is 397 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: that physical pain reminds you you're a live but mental 398 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: pain will test your will to stay that way. And 399 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: I'll never forget when Michael Toon Sargeant, I respected the 400 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: shit out of He called me Jack London because my 401 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: grandfather is Jack London chick, and uncle is Jacq London 402 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: shit jinner, and I guess Jake's is not that cool 403 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: of a name, so he called me Jack London all 404 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: the time. Got on the bird, he was the last 405 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: one on, and he kissed me on my forehead and 406 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: he was trying not to cry, and he said, we'll 407 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: see you's soon, Jack London, and I knew he was lying. 408 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: Remember when he got off the bird, look out to 409 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: my left and I see the guys looking up. And 410 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: that was the hardest part of all of it. I 411 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: was leaving then, what's clear I still struggle with So. 412 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I felt this abundance of guilt about that. 413 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: That didn't leave me for a very long time. At 414 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: that point, I started to feel like I was hanging 415 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: on him by a thread and got the attention on 416 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: one of the litter crew. Here's this young kid. I'll 417 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: never forget how young he looked, which is not saying 418 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: a lot, because of jeurias of us over there were kids, 419 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: but I mean this kid, it was like he had 420 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: never even taken a razor to his face, and he 421 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: looked that young. And I remember him avoiding me like 422 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: the flag, almost like my near death was gonna rub 423 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: off on him. And I don't blame him at all 424 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: for that. I mean, until you've been in that situation, 425 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: you can't possibly understand it. But I got his attention 426 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: on my right hand. To his credit, he did not 427 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: hesitate coming over to me, and he leaned over me 428 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: and he pulled his left headset over his left ear, 429 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: pulled it off back behind his left ear, and put 430 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: his left ear right over my mouth. And he got 431 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: right up next to me, and I yelled, how long, 432 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: put it back over his ear, and he read it 433 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: up front of the captain, and he came back and 434 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: he yelled in my right ear, and he yelled twelve mics, 435 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: which means twelve minutes. And I remember thinking to myself, 436 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: you can do twelve more minutes. And I immediately talked 437 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: to guy again and I said, hey, big man, I'm 438 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: gonna have to renig on that original verbal agreement because 439 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: I think I got twelve more minutes in me as 440 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: if I had a choice. You know, it's not. I 441 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: don't think for the most part, it's up to us 442 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: when we get to make the call. But I remember 443 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: leaving the guys and looking down and seeing them, and 444 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: my will to fight to stay alive was all but 445 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: gone because I had already accepted this is it and 446 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: I was going out exactly the way I wanted to 447 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: go out as a warrior. But then here in twelve minutes, 448 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: I was like, how far can I push this thing? 449 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 2: You talk about the hardest part of that day was 450 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 2: saying goodbye to your brothers. That's a bond that so 451 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 2: many people don't experience. What is that bond to you? Then? 452 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 2: And still eighteen years later. 453 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: Where I learned that there was nothing special about my 454 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: pain and suffering was a Marine Corps because regardless of 455 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:33,959 Speaker 1: what I was going through, all I had to do 456 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: was look to my left and my right is they 457 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: were going through the same thing. There's not many people 458 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: you get to meet in life that would take a 459 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: bullet for you without hesitation. And the fact that I 460 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: know dozens and dozens and dozens at eighteen years later, 461 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: zero hesitation would die so I could live. You can't 462 00:26:58,960 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: put that into words. 463 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 2: People just assume you tell your story and it's easy, 464 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 2: but it's never easy. I can see you go back 465 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: to that day you relive it. Why did you start 466 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: telling the story in the. 467 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: First place, great question, And it was because my grandmother 468 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: told me to to a rotary club. It was the 469 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: first time I had to tell it, and because no 470 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: one tells their grandparents, no, And I remember I told 471 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: this story to a room full of people that were 472 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: forty or fifty years my senior. And it was horrible. 473 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: And I was still on drugs and it was all 474 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: I could do was think, think about getting high, and 475 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: I knew it was horrible, and I was sweating grenades 476 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: and I was so nervous. And I remember walking out 477 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: of the side door of this clubhouse area where her 478 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: rotary club was, and I remember walking out and I 479 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: went to go light a cigarette, and she walked out 480 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: and she put her hand on me and she said, 481 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: how do you feel. I looked at her and I 482 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: said lighter, and she said good. That was the point 483 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: and walked away, and I was like. 484 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 2: Okay, MEMI knows best. 485 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: She's smarter than I am or ever will be. 486 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 2: Meme, he knows best. Married to a World War two warrior, 487 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 2: Talk to me about scars. 488 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: The ones that are the most important to who you 489 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: are aren't visible, and you know to me, I've had 490 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: guys tell me like, I'm envious of your prosthetic and 491 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: your left leg and left arm because it's obvious, it's 492 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: obvious you were hurt. You can't see my scars, and 493 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: years and years and years ago, I used to take 494 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: offense because it's like, how dare you have no idea 495 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: what I've been through physically? But obviously, with time and 496 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: maturity and wisdom, I totally understand where they're coming from. 497 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: And I agree, I completely agree. It's the scars you 498 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: can't see that are the most debilitating your well being 499 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: if you let them be. People need to understand that 500 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: seeing is not always believing, and that's why you can't 501 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: judge a book by its cover, because none of us 502 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: know what we don't know. And it's like I tell 503 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: the tribe all the time, and treat everybody you meet 504 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: as if they have a broken heart, because you never 505 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: know love and be loved. That's it. 506 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 2: You're one of the strongest people I know physically, and 507 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 2: there's so many words that are warrior esque that can 508 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: describe you and who you are. Talk to me about 509 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: mental strength. 510 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: It's your beginning, your middle, and your end. You know, 511 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: the physicality is not always going to be there. If 512 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: people get hurt or injured, accidents happen, and those can 513 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: be repaired. It's like I had to have my right 514 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: foot cut off and now, you know, to be amputated 515 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: two or three more times, and now I have a prosthetic, 516 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: but it's a tool. There is no prosthetic for the brain. 517 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: You have the one you have. That's it. That happens 518 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: to be connected to your heart, which is connected to 519 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: your soul. And the brain is the most powerful weapon 520 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: any of us will ever possess. And I've done a 521 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: lot of work to make sure that mine can function 522 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: and operate at the highest ability that's even possible, especially 523 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: for someone who's diagnosed with traumatic brain injury and push 524 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: my e stress and for me, mental strength will carry 525 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: someone so much further than physical strength. And it's something 526 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: that I started working on as a little kid because 527 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: I had to. The only downfall to it is that 528 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: it can also be your worst asset, because stubbornness and 529 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: pride can take control of you and do a lot 530 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: of damage. And I've got a track record of that too. 531 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer in truly believing in who you 532 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: are and being comfortable inside your skin, regardless of what 533 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: it looks like or doesn't look like, because every breath 534 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: is a gift. That mental strength is going to carry 535 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: you through a lot of times that you wouldn't fathom 536 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: you would go through. But that's why you need to 537 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: be so convicted in who you are and why I've 538 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: done so much work to be convicted and who I 539 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: am and understand that I'm a moratal human being, just 540 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: like everybody else that was given a second shot. I'm 541 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: by no means perfect, but I'm going to fight like 542 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: hell until i can't fight like hell? 543 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: What do you do to relax? Recharge? 544 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: Not enough? 545 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 2: That's true for all of us. 546 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: Though, right, Yeah, A lot of times I hear I'm 547 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: doing my best, and I'm like, are you explain that 548 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: to me? 549 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 2: I've heard you say that to me about. 550 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: I know, but it's like you when I hear that, yeah, 551 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: we're not meant to be one hundred miles an hour 552 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: all the time, and we're not meant we need to 553 00:31:54,480 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: slow down and be present and just listen. Listen to 554 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: the wind, be out in nature, watch a sunset, be 555 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: grateful for that because it is It is the small 556 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: things that we take for granted that ultimately, when you 557 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: do not have them, you realize how much you've missed 558 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: out on. And I learned that. I mean, I was 559 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: in the hospital for a long time and I didn't 560 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: see sunsets, and I didn't get to talk to people 561 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: I love all the time, and I didn't get to 562 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: know if my guys were okay, and I didn't get 563 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: to know if I was going to make it through 564 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: this twenty hour operation or this surgery or that surgery. 565 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: And so I mean, attitude of gratitude is easy to say, 566 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: you know, and it's catchy and it rhymes, but unless 567 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: it's something you put into practice every day, it's really 568 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: hard to grasp out of thin air. And so for me, 569 00:32:54,400 --> 00:33:00,959 Speaker 1: I find a relaxation and recharging is being with my family. 570 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: I mean being with you and the boys, my brothers, 571 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: and my nephew, my niece and yours and your family, 572 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: driving around a ranch and being out in nature, or 573 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: it's being present at a ballgame or just watching sports, 574 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: not allowing the societal noise to pierce that moment. Is 575 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: I find that to be very therapeutic to me. It's 576 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: I got a marine buddy that you know tells me 577 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: is like, I've Jacob, never met a human being like 578 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: you that you find therapy in every single thing you do. 579 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: I was forced to. I mean, I was so angry 580 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: for so long and so bitter for so long that 581 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: it was like, I need to stop wasting time. And 582 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: it's it's still a struggle. 583 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: We all have, you know, our good days and our 584 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 2: bad days, and some days it's easier than others. But yeah, 585 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 2: time is our most precious commodity. We have to do 586 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 2: the best with what we've got and what we've got left. 587 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: Thinking back, is there one individual or organization that's made 588 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 2: a big impact on your life? I mean, I'm laughing 589 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 2: even asking you the question, because I know there's so many. 590 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's an ongoing list. It's longer than probably 591 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: everybody else's list. I mean, yeah, just thinking back to 592 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: my childhood, even it's my grandmother played such a pivotal 593 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: role and me understanding what it means to be an American, 594 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: instilling that in me at such a young age and 595 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: teaching me and showing me things that most four and 596 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: five year olds don't get to see because it's too much. 597 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: And I'm so grateful for that because she explained to 598 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: me the real world. She didn't put me in a 599 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: protective bubble and take the notion of what you know, 600 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: he'll figure it out when he figures it out. No, 601 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: she's the one that taught me to be the father 602 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: that I and you know, my father was didn't really 603 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: ride us growing up, and he would give his sound 604 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: advice and you listener, you don't. Then a lot of 605 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: the time we didn't. Then the world patched us in 606 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: the mouth, and then we learned. I mean so many 607 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 1: teachers that put up with my shit for so long, 608 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: and just so many coaches and even athletic trainers and 609 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: even friends' parents. And there's just such a long list 610 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: that if I named one, it would do so many 611 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: an injustice. I am where I am because of a 612 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: countless number of people and organizations, to include the Marine Corps, 613 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: because the hospital and VAMPSI or Samsea and San Antonio 614 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: and even March Air Force Base. My commanding officer that 615 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: medically retired me, such an inspirational human being, and he's 616 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: just a Marine's my first order, I mean, my gun. 617 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: I could just go on and on and on and on, 618 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 1: and just so many people that just their presence by 619 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: default makes you want to be a better human. And 620 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm just fortunate in that fact that I know a 621 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: lot of those people, and I mean some that are 622 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: well known and some that aren't that are all equally 623 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 1: important to me. 624 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 2: Yes, So my last question that you know, we agreed 625 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: we wanted to ask everyone we interviewed on the good stuff, 626 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 2: what feeds your soul? 627 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: You the boys, the fact that I know I'm fundamentally flawed, 628 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,959 Speaker 1: and then not only do I want to be better, 629 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: I need to be better for y'all and fighting like 630 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: hell to get to whatever that end goal is because 631 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: I know that I need to be at my best 632 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna truly affect We help people, help people 633 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: who help people, and so on and so forth. I 634 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: mean that that's what feeds my soul and gives me 635 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: conviction to be better tomorrow than I was today, because 636 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: it's there's no subtle point, there's no point of like, Okay, 637 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: I'm good ever till I die, you know, as you know, 638 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna I have an innate ability to push 639 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: people to the n degree because just like I tell you, 640 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 1: even when I feel like I can't give any more, 641 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: I know there's a lot more to give. 642 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 2: And I think that's so important that we continue to 643 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 2: tap into it. Right, It's an everyday thing. It's not 644 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 2: a one time thing like you always teach me. This 645 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 2: is an ongoing evolution. 646 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, of growing will die, eternal students. 647 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 2: Of life exactly. I love you, I appreciate you. I'm 648 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 2: so grateful for you having the courage to tell this story, 649 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 2: to dig so deep and of this day, but also 650 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 2: for all of the work that you've done since. 651 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: Then. 652 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 2: Clearly your story didn't end that day on the battlefield, 653 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,240 Speaker 2: because you're here still fighting like hell to make this world, 654 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 2: make this country, make your family, make yourself better. And 655 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 2: I think it's such a beautiful thing. I'm so honored 656 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 2: and grateful to be your life partner. 657 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: You're worth it, bid then you know we're worth it, 658 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: and everybody's worth it. It's an honor to do this 659 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: crazy thing called life with you, you know, because it's God. 660 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: It's just such a it's such a rarity to be 661 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: able to live with conviction and pure openness and to 662 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: be able to find victory and your vulnerability while refusing 663 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: to be oscious to your pride. I mean, it is 664 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: is demanding because you have to have you have to 665 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: let go of the fear of ridicule and judgment placed 666 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: in those categorical boxes so you can be defined. You know, 667 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: iron sharpens iron. So thank you. 668 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely, all boats rise right. Thank you for being a 669 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 2: guest on your own podcast. I know you didn't want to, 670 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 2: but I mean, I think it's important for people to 671 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 2: know our why, and our why is because of what 672 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 2: we've been through, what we've lived through, and how we 673 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 2: lean in every day and try to focus on gratitude 674 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 2: because it doesn't matter the person standing in front of you. 675 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 2: They've got a story. Everyone has a story. 676 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: I think it's important for people to know two that 677 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: it's not that I didn't want to, because clearly I 678 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: do this all over the world. It's like I told 679 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: you this, it's not about me, you know, but I 680 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: do want people to understand this isn't for attention or 681 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: for people to know our name, or this is for 682 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: people to get a perspective to help them make it 683 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,720 Speaker 1: through that valley in order to get to that peak 684 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: and understand that they're a myriad of modalities that you 685 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 1: can utilize on a daily basis to help you. If 686 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: you just wake up and just survive, that's okay. You're 687 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: not going to thrive every day that's your goal. But 688 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: if sometimes you just survive, that's okay. And that's the 689 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: point is that sometimes you just need a fresh perspective 690 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: to take the next. 691 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 2: Step exactly, get busy getting better or just get busy. 692 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 2: Jacob Shick, thank you so much for being on the 693 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:44,720 Speaker 2: Good Stuff. 694 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: Ashley Shick, thank you for being on the Good Stuff. 695 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: As we wrapped this thirtieth episode of The Good Stuff, 696 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: we want to say a heartfelt thank you. Thank you 697 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: for listening, thank you for all the emails and reviews, 698 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: and for sharing with us how much this show has touched. 699 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 2: Thank you to each of our guests who dug so 700 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 2: deep and shared with us their scars and let us 701 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 2: celebrate their victories. From our incredible producer, Nick Cassolini, From 702 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 2: Jacob and myself, thank you so much for listening. If 703 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 2: this episode touched you, please share it and be part 704 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 2: of making someone else's day better. 705 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,240 Speaker 1: Put on your bad ass capes and go be great today, 706 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 1: and remember you can't do epic stuff without epic people. 707 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Season one of the Good Stuff. 708 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,760 Speaker 1: The Good Stuff is executive produced by Ashley Schick, Jacob Schick, 709 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: Leah Pictures, and q Code Media, Hosted by Ashley Shick 710 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: and Jacob Shick, Produced by Nick Cassolini and Ryan Countshouse. 711 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: Post production Supervisor Will Tindy. Music by Will Tindy, sound 712 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: effects by Eric Aaron