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Speaker 1: There, how you doing, PAULI you know?
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Speaker 4: It is the Big Red Ridge and we are talking
Speaker 4: about maybe arguably the most complete, the best tight end
Speaker 4: in the NFL by the end of this coming season.
Speaker 4: Trey McBride. I won't put him out of George Kittle yet,
Speaker 4: maybe not even Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 4: I'm glad paul I saw one powerpole that at brock
Speaker 4: Bauers better than Trey McBride as of right here, right now.
Speaker 4: But uh, I mean wolf considering where he was two
Speaker 4: years ago, a very underwhelming rookie season to where he
Speaker 4: is now, what is most impressive about what he's done
Speaker 4: and basically a year and a half.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna say, Pauli, But it is
Speaker 1: so true the fact that he's as good of a
Speaker 1: blocker as he is. It's one of the things I
Speaker 1: absolutely love about Trey McBride that Polly is number one,
Speaker 1: because it's such an advantage when you can have eleven personnel,
Speaker 1: one back, one tight end, three wide receivers Paul in
Speaker 1: rundown situation first and ten second and one to six,
Speaker 1: it's so important you can line up in eleven personnel
Speaker 1: and you can stay balanced, Paulie, you can run the
Speaker 1: ball effectively, and you can throw the ball effectively. In
Speaker 1: today's NFL, that to me is almost a must. And
Speaker 1: it's all because you've got a tight end in Trey
Speaker 1: McBride who can line up and block, and Paul can
Speaker 1: I also say this right now, when you can block
Speaker 1: as well as Trey McBride blocks. Do you have any
Speaker 1: idea how much more effective it makes you in play action? PAULI,
Speaker 1: You are ten times more effective in play action as
Speaker 1: a tight end or play action as an offense when
Speaker 1: you have a tight end who can line up and block,
Speaker 1: act like he's blocking at the point of attack, and
Speaker 1: those second level linebackers and that strong he's gonna sit
Speaker 1: there and look at him and go, oh, yeah, of
Speaker 1: course he's blocking. It's rundown situation. And he's a very
Speaker 1: good blocker. Yeah. They might be running the ball and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they suck up and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden that tight end releases over the middle.
Speaker 1: Now he's wide open. I'm telling you, it is absolutely
Speaker 1: huge in Trey McBride. This is what makes him so
Speaker 1: good at this point.
Speaker 4: Right, we're gonna ask Chase Edmonds, our special guest tonight,
Speaker 4: about Trey McBride. You know what else is huge? What
Speaker 4: has become of tight end? You There were over one
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty tight ends, including Tim Rieman, including Elijah
Speaker 4: Higgins as Trey McBride brought him along, and there was
Speaker 4: Trey McBride, the Cardinals pro bowler, an NFL Live on
Speaker 4: ESPN and they were asking him about the advice he
Speaker 4: has received from Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 5: Travis, you know, he would always give us the nuggets
Speaker 5: on be friendly to the quarterback, make sure you and
Speaker 5: your quarterback are on the same page. And he kind
Speaker 5: of plays with the little freedom. Him and Mahomes have
Speaker 5: this nice connection and I kind of took that and
Speaker 5: I'm like, why can't Kyler and I have that same connection?
Speaker 5: And I feel like That's what I've tried to do.
Speaker 5: I've tried to have that relationship that grow with Kyler
Speaker 5: and just continue to make place for him and be
Speaker 5: that security blanket where if he needs somewhere to go
Speaker 5: with the ball, he always can can throw it to me.
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm trying to do.
Speaker 4: See to me, the progress he has made from year
Speaker 4: one to his Pro Bowl season, that was most critical
Speaker 4: that I'm thirding, you gotta have it and Trey McBride's
Speaker 4: getting double covered. He still got open and Kyler still
Speaker 4: found him and they were still in sync and they
Speaker 4: were still unbeatable. That you know what, even Fred Warner
Speaker 4: had no chance. And to me, if there's one thing
Speaker 4: that Marvin Harrison Junior can do from his rookie year
Speaker 4: into year two, and I know he bulked up, and
Speaker 4: I know he's more explosive, and he's got to get
Speaker 4: better at the contest to catch. But if he can
Speaker 4: develop that sort of chemistry, yeah with Kyler that Trey
Speaker 4: McBride did, I mean, is that feasible? Is that realistic
Speaker 4: this year?
Speaker 1: No, there's no doubt about it, Paully, It's more than feasible.
Speaker 1: It's got to happen as far as I'm concerned, because
Speaker 1: if you've got that tight end who can really work
Speaker 1: the middle of the field, and you also have a
Speaker 1: wide receiver, one like Marvin Harrison Junior who can actually
Speaker 1: work the short, intermediate and deep routs. Paul, you know
Speaker 1: the way I feel on this. I've been talking about
Speaker 1: it for a long time now. If you can throw
Speaker 1: the ball down the field, if Kyler Murray and Marvin
Speaker 1: Harrison Junior can just throw the ball down the field
Speaker 1: and do it at a much better rate than what
Speaker 1: we saw last year, much better success. Right by throwing
Speaker 1: it down the field, it is going to open up
Speaker 1: a whole new world for Trey McBride in the middle
Speaker 1: of the field.
Speaker 4: I guarantee you this offseason, the Rams, the forty nine
Speaker 4: ers in the Seahawks, they all sat around and said,
Speaker 4: how are we going to stop eighty five? Because he
Speaker 4: torched every one of those division teams. They had no
Speaker 4: answer for Trey McBride and Kyler Murray. This offseason was asked, Okay,
Speaker 4: just how good can Trey McBride be?
Speaker 6: Tracey has got a great feel, you know, obviously being
Speaker 6: a tight end and having a little leeway to do
Speaker 6: things his way now and a lot of confidence, you know,
Speaker 6: his ability along with the field that he's gained throughout
Speaker 6: these years. I think sky's a limit for Trey. I think,
Speaker 6: you know, he be one of the best in the league.
Speaker 6: I love going to work with him every day.
Speaker 4: It's just a matchup nightmare, isn't it. Well, if it's
Speaker 4: sort of like you know, George Kittle in his prime,
Speaker 4: even George Kittle to this day, what do you do.
Speaker 4: You tried Isaiah Simmons on him, You tried Xavin Collins
Speaker 4: on him to match his size, but then you can't
Speaker 4: stay with him in routes. So now you put Buddha
Speaker 4: Baker on George Kittle and that's always a battle. But
Speaker 4: ultimately George Kittle has a size advantage. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 4: similar challenge to Trey McBride presents a defense, right, it's.
Speaker 1: You're right on it, Bully. Although you've got George Kittle
Speaker 1: and Trey McBride, their bodies are different, no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: Bodies different. George Kittle much bigger, I would say, a
Speaker 1: little bit longer. But what makes Trey McBride so much
Speaker 1: like George Kittle to me? Not only the fact that
Speaker 1: Trey McBride can hold up at the point of attack, Bully,
Speaker 1: but you can make a short throw to Trey McBride.
Speaker 1: You don't have to You don't have to throw it
Speaker 1: down the field for him to run the ball. You
Speaker 1: make a short throw to Trey McBride, his ability to
Speaker 1: run after the catch is off the charts. And who
Speaker 1: is that? Very similar to George Kittle?
Speaker 4: What do you think about Tip Ryman, Elijah Higgins. We
Speaker 4: know Drew Petsen, he leads the league nearly every the
Speaker 4: last two years, twelve and thirteen. Personnel is a room
Speaker 4: for one of those other tight ends to get into
Speaker 4: the pass catching game?
Speaker 1: Yeah, tip Ryman, listen, nothing against Higgy Bear. I love
Speaker 1: Higgy Bear Boy has he developed. This guy has really
Speaker 1: gotten better. Elijah Higgins definitely, Paul has gotten so much
Speaker 1: better as a tight end. But Tip Ryman is the
Speaker 1: guy that year two here it comes. A year one
Speaker 1: to me was an excellent step in the right direction
Speaker 1: to have a twelve year career in the National Football
Speaker 1: League for tip Ryman. Now here we go year two.
Speaker 1: How much better can tip Ryman get? We we listen
Speaker 1: to many asin for it. He talks about it all
Speaker 1: the time. We listen to JG talking about year two
Speaker 1: and how important year two is for a young guy
Speaker 1: trying to make it in the National Football League. How
Speaker 1: much better can tip Ryman get in year two? I
Speaker 1: don't know, Pauly, Yeah, but I think we're gonna see it.
Speaker 4: Well, you've heard me joke with JG. Half jokingly. You know,
Speaker 4: I need one tight end screen a game for the
Speaker 4: two hundred and eighty pounder, you know, and you name
Speaker 4: that play. Who wants some You just get a tight
Speaker 4: end screen to Tip Ryman and then everybody just blocks
Speaker 4: downfield and you'll find out who's gonna make a business
Speaker 4: decision or not.
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Speaker 4: big red rage. Hands off Edmunds off the left side.
Speaker 3: He's got a crease at the fifteen to ten to
Speaker 3: five touchdown.
Speaker 4: It's a drop play.
Speaker 3: Edmonds straight ahead, twenty to fifteen, breaks a tackle at
Speaker 3: the ten into the end zone for a second touchdown.
Speaker 4: Hand off to the left side.
Speaker 3: Edmunds, he's got a rubber the twenty to ten to
Speaker 3: five piece. It again, the hat trick. Third touchdown run.
Speaker 3: The first two went for twenty a piece. This one
Speaker 3: goes for twenty two yards.
Speaker 4: After Peterson had.
Speaker 3: A towel and he was waving the towel at Chase
Speaker 3: Edmonds as if to put out a fire.
Speaker 4: How about that flashback twenty nineteen and how fitting was
Speaker 4: that the Fordham guy the Fordham fireball if you will
Speaker 4: back in New Yawk against the Giants, putting the hat
Speaker 4: trick on the Giants three touchdown runs.
Speaker 7: Wolf.
Speaker 4: What is it about round four draft picks? You know,
Speaker 4: you guys fight, you guys compete. In fact, there's gonna
Speaker 4: be so much competition at Cardinals camp this year that
Speaker 4: by the end of this interview we be out of jobs.
Speaker 4: As our guest might be the new permanent host of
Speaker 4: the Big Red Rage by the time we're done. Chase Edmunds,
Speaker 4: who's great on the field. Behind him, Mike, Chase, how
Speaker 4: are we doing?
Speaker 8: What's up? Thing that? I appreciate you guys giving me
Speaker 8: a man, It's really good to hear your voices again.
Speaker 4: I tell you this.
Speaker 1: So, Chase, I got to jump in here, So Paul,
Speaker 1: I got to jump in here. Chase, and I have
Speaker 1: to ask you. You were drafted in the fourth round,
Speaker 1: an excellent round, I might add, But what were you
Speaker 1: drafted overall? What was your number? One? Four oh one
Speaker 1: thirty four? Well, hang in there. It's not one oh
Speaker 1: four like I was dropped to Chase. But what is
Speaker 1: it bad either? And it's in the fourth round. It's
Speaker 1: the right rock, well thought, Chase.
Speaker 4: No, I was going to say, if you're if you're
Speaker 4: going to take a broadcasting job, what can you do
Speaker 4: America favor and take Steven A. Smiths gig? Okay, because
Speaker 4: we're all sick of Stephen A. Smith at this point.
Speaker 4: That's that's that's love to get that job, as you would.
Speaker 4: And I know you know basketball, but we're talking football
Speaker 4: and I'm just gonna speaking to compete. Jonathan Gannon, Cardinals
Speaker 4: head coach, said twice this offseason he wants quote more
Speaker 4: friction end quote at camp. In a safe way. He said,
Speaker 4: he wants more physicality, he wants more football, he wants
Speaker 4: more pads popping. As a player, how do you process that?
Speaker 4: How will that shape your mindset coming into Cardinals camp
Speaker 4: this year?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think hearing that as a player myself, to
Speaker 8: me that that screams one thing, And I think that
Speaker 8: screams that he wants more competition. I think he's politically
Speaker 8: trying to say that he wants to really light a
Speaker 8: fire under his guys, really get after each other, you know, again,
Speaker 8: in a safe way. Obviously, you never want to get
Speaker 8: any big time injuries during a training camp. You want
Speaker 8: to take care of each other. But at the same
Speaker 8: time as well to really get yourself ready and primed
Speaker 8: up for the season. And you know, when you're looking
Speaker 8: at full speed, when the bullets are really fast, and
Speaker 8: when the real he definitely probably is speaking on just
Speaker 8: more competitive edge and more competition with one another to
Speaker 8: really see, you know, who's gonna step up when we
Speaker 8: need the most, who's gonna step up? You know, when
Speaker 8: it gets a little fire and the bulls get.
Speaker 1: Hot, so Chase. When you look at the Cardinals offensively
Speaker 1: and you go big picture on them, where do you
Speaker 1: think they're going to be strong and where do you
Speaker 1: think you might need some work?
Speaker 8: Well, I look at Arizona. I bet a lot of
Speaker 8: people last year didn't think that the run game would
Speaker 8: be as impactful and as successful as it was looking
Speaker 8: at just like the pre season. We all know how
Speaker 8: great James Conter is of itself, but I bet there
Speaker 8: was you know, a couple of question marks coming in
Speaker 8: with the oln. They did a great job as a unit,
Speaker 8: they did whoever their run game coordinate over there was
Speaker 8: as a coaching staff did an awesome job of just
Speaker 8: using the run game, the outside zones scheme to really
Speaker 8: break upen a lot of runs. I think that's something
Speaker 8: that you really build off of. And for me, I
Speaker 8: think it's all about, you know, opening up the pass
Speaker 8: game for Trade McBride and as a tie in the NFL,
Speaker 8: nothing opens up the pass game for them boys better
Speaker 8: than play action, and I think that that's something that
Speaker 8: can continue to kind of be built off of K
Speaker 8: one strength, just opening the game for him, really kind
Speaker 8: of lessening the load on his shoulders, having the run
Speaker 8: game established, using that to actually get some of the
Speaker 8: receivers opened down as it, but more importantly, really get
Speaker 8: Trey McBride down the field where you know he's gonna
Speaker 8: be camele with number one option as you're coming off
Speaker 8: that strong season that he has. So that's something I'm
Speaker 8: really looking forward to just seeing again the run game
Speaker 8: continue to be built on him and really just feature
Speaker 8: that offense around McBride.
Speaker 4: Right now, former Cardinals running back Chase Edmonds is our guest.
Speaker 4: And if you're saying yourself, wait a minute, I saw
Speaker 4: Chase on Good Morning Football a couple of months ago,
Speaker 4: you would be right, Yeah, so we're gonna talk run game.
Speaker 4: Let's zoom out here for a minute, because you were
Speaker 4: talking about James Connor. It was this morning, the question
Speaker 4: was best one to two running back punch in football
Speaker 4: right now? And I don't know who the guest analyst was.
Speaker 4: He went with Breeze Hall and Brelan Allen to the Jets,
Speaker 4: And I'm like, wait a minute, what about Jamior Gibbs
Speaker 4: and David Montgomery the Lions? What about even Lamar Jackson
Speaker 4: and Derreck Henry if you want to go that route,
Speaker 4: But how about James Connor and an ascending Trey Benson
Speaker 4: who said he put on seven pounds this offseason and
Speaker 4: feels way more explosive, And in fact, James kind of
Speaker 4: raved about Trey Benson. We started running more like James Connor.
Speaker 4: What do you think about that one two punch?
Speaker 8: I think that's gonna be something that you'll see a
Speaker 8: lot earlier in the season. I just say that because
Speaker 8: as effective and that successful as James has been, I
Speaker 8: think as you get a little bit older, I think
Speaker 8: that you know, the strategy should be to really get
Speaker 8: him healthy for seventeen games, so when it comes down
Speaker 8: to the nitty gritty, when it comes down to those
Speaker 8: December games, you can really lean on him. So if
Speaker 8: I was the coaching staff of the Arizona Cardinals, and
Speaker 8: they do believe in fact that Trey Benson is going
Speaker 8: to be that second, that second one to two punch
Speaker 8: behind JC. That you would want to see him early
Speaker 8: on in the season so he can get a good rhythm,
Speaker 8: a good flow, and you know, to really see if
Speaker 8: he really can, in fact be that one two punch
Speaker 8: behind JC to get it rolling. I think that it's
Speaker 8: really important again, you know, James, he brings so much
Speaker 8: more than just his talent to the Cardinals, right you
Speaker 8: talking about his just his effectiveness is leadership, how he's
Speaker 8: just so contagious with his mindset. It's really important to
Speaker 8: have a guy like that always on the field suited
Speaker 8: up as much as possible. Becau does a lot with
Speaker 8: the camaraderie in the chrism of the team.
Speaker 1: Chase, I think James Connor is one of the toughest
Speaker 1: tackles in the football universe. What makes him so tough
Speaker 1: in your opinion, Oh.
Speaker 8: Man, he absolutely is. It's his contact balance. For me,
Speaker 8: you look at JC and he runs to the tackles
Speaker 8: clearly never gets tackled by the first guy. I also
Speaker 8: think so that James is at least what I saw
Speaker 8: last year. I got to watch a lot of ball
Speaker 8: last year, not playing because of the injury, James put
Speaker 8: on some speed. Man. I don't know if he leaned out,
Speaker 8: but I just remember when I played with him at
Speaker 8: twenty one, he didn't seem as fast as he seemed
Speaker 8: last season. You know, I saw him break a lot
Speaker 8: of runs. He seemed like a step or two faster
Speaker 8: than what people probably used were used to seeing on
Speaker 8: the defensive side of the ball, and that contributed to
Speaker 8: a lot more of his explosive players as well. But
Speaker 8: for me, it definitely starts with just a contact balance, man.
Speaker 8: I mean, he runs so hard and he just shrugs
Speaker 8: his defenders off with ease because he's just naturally obviously
Speaker 8: a very strong runner. But definitely, you know, I think
Speaker 8: another thing that he really does well is James knows
Speaker 8: how to take on what we call like half a
Speaker 8: defender in the NFL, so you know, not always running
Speaker 8: through someone's soul or chess, but just kind of one
Speaker 8: stepping them and running through half the shoulder. And that's
Speaker 8: kind of how you see and shruggle off so many
Speaker 8: more tackles as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt, I mean, he was among the league
Speaker 4: leaders all season with Derrick Henry for most of mistackles.
Speaker 4: Force Chase Edmonds is our guest, and you know we
Speaker 4: talk about James Connery, He's more than a player. He's
Speaker 4: a mindset, He's a mentality. What about the run game
Speaker 4: in general? Saquon Barkley said during the playoffs last year
Speaker 4: that he personally wanted to prove that you could run
Speaker 4: the football and win a Super Bowl. Now did Philly
Speaker 4: do that just because he had the best O line
Speaker 4: and the best running back in the world, or do
Speaker 4: you think that's feasible for the Cardinals to feature that
Speaker 4: and have success even into the postseason?
Speaker 8: Really good question, because this is a lot like this
Speaker 8: is a big topic in locker room as well. I'm
Speaker 8: gonna personally say that it was the perfect storm in
Speaker 8: the perfect combination that Philly, you know, was blessed enough
Speaker 8: to get the best, most explosive running back in the
Speaker 8: NFL with that magnificent O line. I mean, you had
Speaker 8: runs where fake Von Barkley was not getting touched until
Speaker 8: seven yards down the field, and that's just not a
Speaker 8: winning formula for anybody playing against the Philadelphia Eagles. I'm
Speaker 8: a believer that in the playoffs, you definitely need an
Speaker 8: effective run game, but the wins and losses eight nine
Speaker 8: out of ten times will always come from can your
Speaker 8: quarterback get it done on third and long? In the playoffs,
Speaker 8: you know you're playing against really good defenses, everything tightens up,
Speaker 8: everything gets faster. To me, it's really won and lost
Speaker 8: and where who has the most success in the red
Speaker 8: zone and then whose quarterback can really convert on those
Speaker 8: third downs to keep the drivers going in my.
Speaker 1: Opinion, And not only that, but you know, defensively, have
Speaker 1: a Buddha Baker on your team that is going to
Speaker 1: help you an awful lot. Your your thoughts on just
Speaker 1: Buddha and how he plays the game, Chase, Yeah, man.
Speaker 8: Buddhas were my all time favorite teammates that I got
Speaker 8: to play the game with the hell of a guy,
Speaker 8: really good guy first and foremost. But he always I remember,
Speaker 8: I'll never forget you know when that quote, when that
Speaker 8: his first quote came out of no fear against Seattle,
Speaker 8: he hit I think it was Chris Carson that he
Speaker 8: hit coming downhill. It was either Chris Carson or it
Speaker 8: was whoever their backup running back at the time was.
Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure he broke that running backs hit and
Speaker 8: I just remember him walking back and they got a
Speaker 8: micd up and he just talking about no fear, no fear,
Speaker 8: and Uh, Buddha is so inspirational because you know, he's
Speaker 8: about one hundred and eighty pounds, soaking wet, and he
Speaker 8: is playing the hardist every single snap on the football field.
Speaker 8: And he's also the best player ninety nine percent of
Speaker 8: the time on the football field. And it's just it's
Speaker 8: amazing to see what he carved out his career as
Speaker 8: all the Pro Bowls now, all the All Pros. And
Speaker 8: you know, I'm one of his biggest fans. I know,
Speaker 8: my dad is probably his biggest fan. My dad loves
Speaker 8: him some Buddha Baker. He always calls asking about Budda Baker.
Speaker 6: Was b.
Speaker 4: It's funny. I saw that clip the other day, just
Speaker 4: by chance, he knocked out two Seattle running backs in
Speaker 4: that game, and it's amazing. You know, he was a
Speaker 4: Pro Bowler again, he was All Pro again. I still
Speaker 4: think he's under rated around the rest of the NFL.
Speaker 4: I think it's only people in Arizona truly appreciate Buddha
Speaker 4: Baker and his greatness. Let me ask you this Cardinals
Speaker 4: put a lot of money in that defensive front. Right,
Speaker 4: If the pass rush is zamped up is much improved
Speaker 4: than it was a year ago. What do you think
Speaker 4: that does for Buddha and the rest of that secondary?
Speaker 4: How many more interceptions for example, could that result in?
Speaker 8: Oh? Yeah, I think when you look at a passing
Speaker 8: defense as a collectively as a team, whether it's the
Speaker 8: secondary or the front four, I mean, it's really the
Speaker 8: match that makes both go. So if you have a
Speaker 8: really good pass rush, they're getting after the quarterback, balls
Speaker 8: gonna come out a lot faster. Your cornerbacks can kind
Speaker 8: of sit on those shorter routes take a few more
Speaker 8: chances than jump routs just because double moves won't happen
Speaker 8: as much because the quarterback doesn't have that much time
Speaker 8: to throw. So it's really a hand in hand thing
Speaker 8: when you talk about the front four and the secondary.
Speaker 8: I love what Arizona deal with the front four, bringing
Speaker 8: in Josh bringing in them. I'm prettyure they brought in
Speaker 8: a Dalvin Thomason too, right now, yeah, yeah, yeah, So
Speaker 8: those are two really good movies. You know, DT is
Speaker 8: going to be more of a stuff the run game
Speaker 8: kind of guy I don't know how many sacks will get,
Speaker 8: but he's gonna be an effective first second down in
Speaker 8: Cherry Linon for them. And then you know, if Josh
Speaker 8: comes in and does what he does since he's been
Speaker 8: in Philly, they're gonna definitely have a bigger, much more
Speaker 8: effective pass rush. So that's something that I'm really intrigued
Speaker 8: to look at. I think Buddha. It'll give Buddha a
Speaker 8: little more free reigns to kind of do his thing
Speaker 8: in the secondary, while he will still be up to
Speaker 8: the line of skimmerge literally because I think that's where
Speaker 8: he's best suited, just because I don't think there's a
Speaker 8: better box safety per se at affecting the run game
Speaker 8: than Buddha Baking the NFL. But it definitely will give
Speaker 8: him more free range in those passing situations third and
Speaker 8: longs chase.
Speaker 1: What is the state of football? Give me the state
Speaker 1: of football in your opinion in the year twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Where are we I think.
Speaker 8: The state of football right now? What you're seeing is
Speaker 8: you're seeing a lot of teams one they want the
Speaker 8: dual threat quarterback, right Yeah, anytime you can get a
Speaker 8: quarterback that can ease the run game up and help
Speaker 8: the run game as the offense just because they're an
Speaker 8: extra threat for another defender in the box. That's something
Speaker 8: that I think teams are really going after a lot.
Speaker 8: I will say last year, I'm intrigued to see our
Speaker 8: teams approach the running back market or just the running
Speaker 8: back uses, because I think last year there was a
Speaker 8: lot of running backs that went over a thousand yards. Man,
Speaker 8: it was kind of as anomaly of how effective running
Speaker 8: backs were just for some team. So I'm eager to
Speaker 8: see how that it kind of goes because if you
Speaker 8: asked me this two seasons ago, I just kept telling
Speaker 8: you that, yeah, minus a passing league, it's a passing league.
Speaker 8: It's going that way the whole way. But now you're
Speaker 8: starting to see, you know, running backs get used a
Speaker 8: little bit more to kind of help the quarterback out.
Speaker 8: And I also will say that just because of how
Speaker 8: talented the position is across the board. Now, if you
Speaker 8: don't have a one A and a one B in
Speaker 8: the receiver room, your offense probably won't be the upper
Speaker 8: half of the NFL in terms of just like scoring.
Speaker 8: That's that's something that I think is really key. Now
Speaker 8: you look at a lot of receiver rooms in the NFL.
Speaker 8: The best offense in the NFL usually have a one A,
Speaker 8: one B receiver room.
Speaker 4: In my opinion, Chase Edmund's former Cardinals running backs still
Speaker 4: remember when Kyler came into the league, you said he's
Speaker 4: like an extra blocker because the defense has to account
Speaker 4: for him. Here he is going into year seven, Chase,
Speaker 4: he took twenty seven design runs last year. There's been
Speaker 4: a lot made of this. Should Kyler run the ball more?
Speaker 4: For example, Lamar Jackson ran it seventy nine times in
Speaker 4: design runs. Jane Daniels fifty eight times design runs. What
Speaker 4: do you think the risk reward is that Kyler running
Speaker 4: the ball more?
Speaker 8: I think kay one should absolutely run the ball more
Speaker 8: in terms of design runs. And not only say that
Speaker 8: because Kyler knows how to not get hit. It's not
Speaker 8: like Kay One's gonna go out there and get himself
Speaker 8: hit or get himself in a situation where he's getting
Speaker 8: risked by a big tom blow for injury. He's one
Speaker 8: of the better quarterbacks, I think, probably the best quarterback
Speaker 8: at not taking a big hit. So I think that
Speaker 8: you kind of roll with that model. I would love
Speaker 8: to see him get I mean, you said he had
Speaker 8: twenty seven last year's seventeen games season. If he just
Speaker 8: has two to two and a half per game, you're
Speaker 8: looking at like the thirty five to forty five range,
Speaker 8: and then you know him keep doing what he does
Speaker 8: on the scrimms when they come. But I think, again,
Speaker 8: that's just something that helps with the run game as
Speaker 8: a whole, because now the defense has to scheme for that,
Speaker 8: you know, and when you have a quarterback design run,
Speaker 8: it allows you to have an extra blocker and you
Speaker 8: know you're really running the man or man basch ups
Speaker 8: when it comes to the run game and trying to
Speaker 8: break out those explosive plans. So that's something that I
Speaker 8: would love to see Kate Well just get a little
Speaker 8: bit more active in the design run calls for him,
Speaker 8: just because again I think he's tremendous at protecting himself.
Speaker 1: So, Chase, you said one A and one B in receivers.
Speaker 1: You think that an offense in twenty twenty five has
Speaker 1: got to have a one A and a one B
Speaker 1: in receivers. Do you count tight ends in that as well?
Speaker 8: Yeah? Yeah, good catch with you. I should have just
Speaker 8: said past catchers because I think Trey mcbrid is gonna
Speaker 8: be the best tight in the football next season.
Speaker 1: Okay, he's a dog.
Speaker 8: I never got to meet him. He's a dog. But
Speaker 8: I definitely believe that you need a one A one
Speaker 8: be like, if you don't have two people in your
Speaker 8: past catching ability team to that have a thousand yards each.
Speaker 8: And I know that's a little aggressive, but I'm gonna say,
Speaker 8: you know, one with twelve hundred eighty one, nine hundred,
Speaker 8: but you're gonna need two guys that really carry that
Speaker 8: load to create an effective offense. And if you don't
Speaker 8: have that, then you probably just have a lot of
Speaker 8: depth in the office of on the offensive side of
Speaker 8: the bay. You know, you got a lot of guys contributed,
Speaker 8: But I am a firm believer that you need to
Speaker 8: to alphas to carry that load to have a top ten,
Speaker 8: top twelve offense in the NFL right now.
Speaker 4: Well, one A for Chase Edmonds is to be playing
Speaker 4: ball in twenty twenty five. One B would be if
Speaker 4: we could talk to them every week, because great, so
Speaker 4: we'll see how that game plan works out.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: We always enjoy Chase really good stuff. Thanks for the
Speaker 4: time and the insight.
Speaker 8: Appreciate you guys. Always good talking to you guys. I
Speaker 8: hope everyone stays healthy and will and always go cars.
Speaker 8: I'm always in debited to the car.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go, double ding, all right, Chase Edmonds,
Speaker 4: our guest. We continue with a big red rage presented
Speaker 4: by Santan Ford in Gilbert the staff to Murray and
Speaker 4: he's gonna keep the money to the right.
Speaker 3: He's got rumb with the forty five forty He points
Speaker 3: to the sky as he takes up with the larning
Speaker 3: and the twenty the tenth to five touchdown a design
Speaker 3: run for Kyler Murray.
Speaker 4: It goes for fifty yards.
Speaker 7: You know, we haven't had a lot of national games,
Speaker 7: and you know this guy can make all of those
Speaker 7: inside the pocket, outside the pocket, and he's quick. You
Speaker 7: see it on tape. He's out running everybody all the time,
Speaker 7: even like that forty nine Ers game where in San
Speaker 7: fran he he points up to the touchdown, you know,
Speaker 7: forty to fifty yards away, knowing he's going to score it.
Speaker 7: You know, I haven't seen a QB do day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was straight out of Texas high school football.
Speaker 4: I mean he got to the second level, the number
Speaker 4: one went into the air and he gone fifty yard
Speaker 4: touchdown run on the Cardinals second play from scrimmage. The
Speaker 4: only thing hotter than the one to eleven out on
Speaker 4: that field was Kyler Murray number one himself. It is
Speaker 4: the big red rage by Santan Ford in Gilbert. We
Speaker 4: heard the respect Chase Edmonds has for Kyler Murray. There's
Speaker 4: still buds and uh Ron Wolfley, Paul kelbyc back with
Speaker 4: you here, and I tell you what when it comes
Speaker 4: to Kyler, there's been a lot of talk about all right,
Speaker 4: how and where can he get better going into year seven,
Speaker 4: and a lot of it and this is a lot
Speaker 4: of Kyler's doing revolves around his legs. He's the one
Speaker 4: to first really bring it up two months ago going
Speaker 4: into a softball game.
Speaker 1: Wolf Yeah, you're right about that, Paully. But I've just
Speaker 1: got a comment on Dave Pash. David, only David would
Speaker 1: talk about pointing to the sky in the middle of
Speaker 1: the call, in the middle of the call, only Pash
Speaker 1: would see you pointing to the sky and say that
Speaker 1: in his call. Okay, I just wanted to get that
Speaker 1: out of the way right there. Kyler Murray has got
Speaker 1: to run the ball and be more spontaneous doing it.
Speaker 1: That's I think it's the unscheduled run that JG and
Speaker 1: Drew Petsing would like to see from Kyler Murray. That's
Speaker 1: my guess. Paully, I could BEng on that. That's my guess.
Speaker 4: Well, for example, there are certain stats and analytics that
Speaker 4: said he ran the ball really well, really effectively last season.
Speaker 4: For example, at a career high in yards per carry
Speaker 4: seven point three and in terms of his rushing yards
Speaker 4: over expected. One of those analytics, he was the best
Speaker 4: among all quarterbacks according to Next Gen Stats. He just
Speaker 4: didn't run it as much as a Lamar Jackson, a
Speaker 4: Josh Allen, a Jayden Daniels. And and even if Patrick
Speaker 4: mahomes and here Kyler talk about it, at least with
Speaker 4: the media, sounds like he was sitting around watching the
Speaker 4: AFC playoffs wolf and he's like, Oh, look at the threat,
Speaker 4: look at the weapon legs on a quarterback can become
Speaker 4: when it's Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, you know, Patrick mahomes On,
Speaker 4: Keith urd Downs. Hey, wait a minute, I can do that.
Speaker 4: I run a four to three.
Speaker 1: And especially Paul right, especially because when you think about it,
Speaker 1: how well the Arizona Cardinals run the ball, yes, in
Speaker 1: between the tackles, in particular, how well they run on
Speaker 1: the ball where they can line up in the gun
Speaker 1: with James Connor right next to Kyler Murray and here
Speaker 1: comes the zone Raad, Here it comes, and Kyler can
Speaker 1: keep it and off he goes. It is a great
Speaker 1: weapon to have, and I love the fact that Drew
Speaker 1: Petsing likes to show it early. Almost at least in
Speaker 1: I want to say, the vast majority of the games, Paul,
Speaker 1: in the first quarter, you'll see the Arizona Cardinals with
Speaker 1: a called run for Kyler Murray. And I think that
Speaker 1: is because Drew Petsing is just letting the DC, the
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator know, hey, listen, you don't think we'll do this,
Speaker 1: watch this. Oh we'll do it all right. You know what.
Speaker 4: Lorenzo Alexander was on the Red Sea Report earlier this week,
Speaker 4: and he actually gave you props for that observation. He said,
Speaker 4: that's absolutely true. He said he does think that's by design.
Speaker 4: I look into the Chandler Jones back in his heyday,
Speaker 4: he would always throw a bull rush into the first
Speaker 4: series or two just to let the tackle know I
Speaker 4: can go through you if I have to. So there's that.
Speaker 4: There's also more Buddha on the minachime show, and he
Speaker 4: was just talking in general about what he's seen from
Speaker 4: Kyler this offseason.
Speaker 7: He practices really hard, you know, he tells receivers what
Speaker 7: to do, you know, how to do it. He's kind
Speaker 7: of been in his bag this whole off season, you know,
Speaker 7: doing no look throws and you know, having a great
Speaker 7: offseason training camp. So K one's gonna you know, he's
Speaker 7: gonna run a little bit more, you know, a little
Speaker 7: outside of the pocket inside the pocket throws. You know,
Speaker 7: he's he's gonna kind of do it all.
Speaker 4: That's intriguing. I mean, sort of like Kyler putting his
Speaker 4: finger to this guy calling a shot Buddha Baker forecasting
Speaker 4: more Kyler in the run game. I think the question
Speaker 4: is more design runs or to your point, more off schedule,
Speaker 4: which Drew Petsen has talked about.
Speaker 1: That's exactly it. Pay again, maybe maybe both, Maybe yes
Speaker 1: is the answer. Now, maybe they're gonna encourage him to
Speaker 1: pull the ball down and run more. And I think
Speaker 1: that is an excellent thing to do when you think
Speaker 1: about it. Paully, think of Russell Wilson up in Seattle.
Speaker 1: How many years he tore our hearts out by watching
Speaker 1: him on a third and ten rush, pull the ball
Speaker 1: down third and ten and rush for eleven yards and
Speaker 1: move the chains. Just a backbreaker. And it's one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why you want to do it as well,
Speaker 1: because polly sucking the life out of your opponent is
Speaker 1: a good thing in the football field. It is a
Speaker 1: good thing. You want to demoralize them. There are a
Speaker 1: couple of ways you can do that. Number One, you
Speaker 1: just line up and run the ball right over him
Speaker 1: and a north southway. It's the most demoralizing thing in
Speaker 1: the game. I've said it many many times in the past.
Speaker 1: Number Two, have a quarterback who can pull the ball
Speaker 1: down when it's third and eight, third and obvious and
Speaker 1: convert with his legs. That is demoralizing as well. And
Speaker 1: that's what you want to do, not only beat a defense,
Speaker 1: but demoralize him in the process.
Speaker 4: You go back to the Cardinals last playoff season. It
Speaker 4: was Week four, I believe at the La Rams. It
Speaker 4: was a tight game, was third and sixteen. I remember
Speaker 4: it vividly. Kyler ran for seventeen. The entire Rams defense
Speaker 4: was deflated, was demoralized, depressed. It was a route from
Speaker 4: that point forward. He absolutely demoralized him. Yep, So, okay,
Speaker 4: we have that. I have a few other areas where
Speaker 4: I believe Kyler can get better and dare I say
Speaker 4: will get better in year seven? You're ready for this
Speaker 4: quick checklist?
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 4: Number one deep pass. His first couple of years in
Speaker 4: the league, he was among the league leaders in efficiency
Speaker 4: on the deep chunk throws.
Speaker 1: Paul, I'm so glad you said that, though, because everything
Speaker 1: else comes off of that.
Speaker 4: Okay, proceed Number two throwing wide receivers open. They might
Speaker 4: be covered, but you're gonna throw it to a spot
Speaker 4: where only the receiver can get it, in particular a
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior and a Michael Wilson, and that.
Speaker 1: Means attack the ball. Marvin Harrison Junior attacked the ball.
Speaker 4: Okay. Number three, chemistry with receivers sort of like what
Speaker 4: you've been able to forge with Trey McBride ever since
Speaker 4: his rookie year. Can you achieve some of that with
Speaker 4: Marvin Arrison Junior, Michael Wilson, Greg derch Zay Jones.
Speaker 1: The only thing I would say is don't force it.
Speaker 1: Don't force it. Let it happen very organically.
Speaker 4: Okay, I've tried to force the mantra, come for the arms,
Speaker 4: stay for the legs over the years, hasn't got a
Speaker 4: lot of traction. But we already talked about the legs.
Speaker 4: So I'll go to number five, passing under pressure when
Speaker 4: pressured and in weeks yeah, twelve, thirteen and fourteen, a
Speaker 4: critical stretch of the Cardinals season coming out of the
Speaker 4: by when Kyler was under pressure. According to next Gen Stats,
Speaker 4: he went seven of twenty seven passing fifty nine yards,
Speaker 4: zero touchdowns, five picks. Now, once again, it's not always
Speaker 4: on the quarterback where the receivers in the right spot,
Speaker 4: where the receivers coming back for the ball. Were the
Speaker 4: receivers making adjustments when they knew the quarterback was under duress.
Speaker 4: I think as an offense, they have to be better
Speaker 4: when Kyler is under pressure.
Speaker 1: Yes, Paulli, it's a great observation by you right there,
Speaker 1: and think about this. You gotta go ahead and get
Speaker 1: the ball out quicker two. That's why you don't want
Speaker 1: to be in third and obvious pass situations, Paul, you
Speaker 1: don't want Kyler in third and obvious. It's the reason
Speaker 1: why first and second down really matter. You want him
Speaker 1: in third and three, third and four, you want him
Speaker 1: in that area. So now, all of a sudden, anything
Speaker 1: could happen. A quick pass could beat you and move
Speaker 1: the chads right.
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Speaker 4: You know where else Kyler I think gets better this
Speaker 4: year is when he has to compete against a much
Speaker 4: improved defense in practice every day. That Cardinals defense in
Speaker 4: mini camp, I'm told was really balling and really give
Speaker 4: them the offense all they can handle. We'll talk more
Speaker 4: about that next. It is the Big Red Rage presented
Speaker 4: by santan Ford and Gilbert We are sandtan Ford.
Speaker 3: So it takes play fake boot to the left looking
Speaker 3: dumping it off near side. He'll caught it and tackled
Speaker 3: immediately by Buddha Baker. It's going to be a negative
Speaker 3: play right now, they're saying incomplete as Hill and Buddha
Speaker 3: Baker are jawing a little bit.
Speaker 9: He's not backing down from anybody, man. I mean he's
Speaker 9: a captain for one of the reasons he's a captain
Speaker 9: is his intensity and his mode of play. And that's
Speaker 9: how he's always been and he's going to max out
Speaker 9: every single snap and he ain't backing out from anybody.
Speaker 4: Five time team Captain, seven time Pro bowler, four time
Speaker 4: All Pro Buddha Baker, and one epic memorable trash talk
Speaker 4: session with Tyreek Hill there on the road in Miami
Speaker 4: early in the game, set in the tone face mask
Speaker 4: to face mass rooting in a tutin two of them
Speaker 4: going at it as a There was Buddha and guess
Speaker 4: what there were the Cardinals pulling away in the second
Speaker 4: half for a win at Miami. It is the Big
Speaker 4: Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are
Speaker 4: santan Ford, Paul calvic, Ron Wolfley, and a Bodah Baker,
Speaker 4: who I still well for all his accolades. I still
Speaker 4: don't think people appreciate it, especially last year, quite to
Speaker 4: the degree they should. He set a career high in
Speaker 4: tackles of bucks sixty four, number two in the NFL,
Speaker 4: and tackles the top ten were all inside linebackers and Buddha.
Speaker 4: And it's the most tackles by a Cardinals player in
Speaker 4: a single season since at least nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Paul, didn't you get in between Buddha
Speaker 1: and Tyreek Hill. Didn't you get in a.
Speaker 4: Couple of fine diminion of Americans? They said, guys, come on,
Speaker 4: break it up. Over here, break it up. We got
Speaker 4: a long game.
Speaker 1: Truly incredible. You know, I say this all the time
Speaker 1: about Buddha, Baker, Polly, it is. It's amazing. Though you
Speaker 1: just watch him on tape. He does two things. He
Speaker 1: does two things. He goes to the wall fearlessly, and
Speaker 1: he does it every play. Those two things, that's what
Speaker 1: he does.
Speaker 4: And this defense, Johnathan again and Nick Ross, they are
Speaker 4: getting the best out of Buddha, as evidenced by those numbers.
Speaker 4: Not only a career high end tackles, but he had
Speaker 4: ten tackles for loss, He had five passes defense, he
Speaker 4: had three quarterback hits, two sacks. In other words, he's
Speaker 4: all over the field. And here he is with Mina
Speaker 4: Kimes and she asked him just about how the Cardinals
Speaker 4: have evolved their defensive scheme.
Speaker 7: They did a great job just watching the film each
Speaker 7: and every year and kind of evolving their defenses. You know,
Speaker 7: they came from Philadelphia and they did a lot of
Speaker 7: stuff in Philly. They also had a great d line.
Speaker 7: But in this scene, it gives the ability for the
Speaker 7: you know, the dbs and the linebackers to kind of
Speaker 7: not exactly show our hand to the offenses until the
Speaker 7: ball snapped. So add that with the with the great
Speaker 7: defensive line and some edge rushers, you know, we're cooking
Speaker 7: with hot reed.
Speaker 4: Is there any doubt in your mind that they unlocked
Speaker 4: Buddha Baker last season?
Speaker 1: Yeah, now you're you're right, Balie. They put him in position,
Speaker 1: keeping him in the box, around the box an awful lot.
Speaker 1: I should say, not just in it, but around it
Speaker 1: and in it from time to time. He did both,
Speaker 1: but just allowing him to use his instincts. Paul, I've
Speaker 1: said this many times. It's the truth. It's Troy Palamalu.
Speaker 1: Palamalu was just like that as well, and the Steelers
Speaker 1: used him just the way that I saw Nick rawlis
Speaker 1: using Buddha Baker last year an awful lot. Sometimes the
Speaker 1: blantz sometimes not to giving him the option whatever it is,
Speaker 1: keeping him in the middle of the field, letting him
Speaker 1: read plays, diagnose plays. Buddha is really good and he's
Speaker 1: got good instincts. And then to make tackles. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: that's why Buddha had over one hundred and sixty tackles.
Speaker 4: So, you know, last year I was sort of on
Speaker 4: a mission. I was trying to figure out exactly what
Speaker 4: and how they were unlocking Buddha. Baker and I kept
Speaker 4: getting the heisman in that locker room. But then then
Speaker 4: Wolf late December January, I started to get a little
Speaker 4: bit info from a few guys, and you're on it.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's not much more I can add to
Speaker 4: that other than they really allowed Buddha to have more
Speaker 4: on the quarterback. They put him inside more so it
Speaker 4: wasn't as easy for offense as to go to one
Speaker 4: side or the other because he was more in the
Speaker 4: center of the box and so he could get, you know,
Speaker 4: to either side at the same time when he wanted
Speaker 4: to go, when he wanted to shoot his gun, he
Speaker 4: would just do it with instincts, like you said, Troy Polamalo,
Speaker 4: and then the secondary would adjust accordingly. They would watch
Speaker 4: number three and they say, Okay, is he going, is
Speaker 4: he going? He's going boom? Everyone would check and they
Speaker 4: would have some of his responsibilities if he decided to
Speaker 4: let it rip and go downhill.
Speaker 1: PAULI, that is that is really brilliant. It is that
Speaker 1: the rest of the secondary is basically going to read Buddha.
Speaker 1: Very interesting. Just like a wide receiver has got to
Speaker 1: read coverage on a read route yep. So all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you've got this secondary actually reading one player
Speaker 1: that might blitz or not. That that is brilliant to me.
Speaker 4: In fact, Mina Kaim smart enough to drill down a
Speaker 4: little deeper with Buddha and just the scheme and how
Speaker 4: it allowed him to be near number one receivers more.
Speaker 7: I love it. You know, it gives me the opportunity
Speaker 7: to kind of be where opposing number one receivers are
Speaker 7: instead of just you know, being at free statety all day.
Speaker 7: And you know that can give offenses opportunities to kind
Speaker 7: of stay away, and this game is it's not like that,
Speaker 7: So I'm excited.
Speaker 4: Well, if you had a chance to interview a lot
Speaker 4: of Cardinals players in the offseason, like yours truly did.
Speaker 4: I had two guys, Jalen Thompson and Starling Thomas both
Speaker 4: confirm that team started stealing the Cardinals defensive schemes and
Speaker 4: their coverages towards the end of last season. Is there
Speaker 4: any greater compliment then when you're plagiarized, when people are,
Speaker 4: you know, just copying what you're running and you're seeing
Speaker 4: on a film, when you're watching other teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're right about that, Polly. There is no
Speaker 1: better compliment than imitation. You're going to start ripping off
Speaker 1: from other teams. That is amazing. But you know what, Pauline,
Speaker 1: I want to go back to Buddha Baker and Buddha
Speaker 1: Baker when he signed his extension with the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Don't tell me for a minute. The culture is what
Speaker 1: he loves here. But you also have to believe that
Speaker 1: Nick rawlis using him the way that he does and
Speaker 1: allowing him to play in this defense. Don't tell me
Speaker 1: that that didn't have something to do with Buddha Baker
Speaker 1: looking at himself and his career in saying, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is the place for me.
Speaker 4: And what's amazing is what James Connor has done for
Speaker 4: Trey Benson. Trey Benson admitting recently the yeah, a lot
Speaker 4: of his play style now has been influenced by James
Speaker 4: Connor kram at vertical. There's no doubt that has rubbed
Speaker 4: off on Trey Benson. I asked Rabbit this week, right
Speaker 4: year two safety, and he said, absolutely, JT and Buddha's
Speaker 4: playing style has rubbed off on me. I thought I
Speaker 4: was a pretty good tackler, but I watch those guys.
Speaker 4: They try and plant people. They try and pick him
Speaker 4: up and plant him into the ground. So now that's
Speaker 4: what I'm trying to do. It's really interesting. I think
Speaker 4: you're seeing this in all the position rooms. It's a
Speaker 4: key reason why the Cardinals obviously added Kaleis Campbell with
Speaker 4: two young first round defensive linemen. These younger guys learning
Speaker 4: from experts of the craft, the veteran guys, some of
Speaker 4: the team leaders in that locker room.
Speaker 1: Well, especially too if you're a Rabbit, because Rabbit is
Speaker 1: not a big guy. He's not a proto typical safety
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. He's more towards Buddhist size, yep.
Speaker 1: And because of that, he's got to be greatly encouraged
Speaker 1: watching this guy do what he does right in front
Speaker 1: of him every Sunday. That's got to help.
Speaker 4: So we asked Chase Edmonds about the Cardinals improved pass
Speaker 4: rush and potentially what that could do for the secondary
Speaker 4: and the interceptions in general. I'm pretty convinced if you
Speaker 4: made me give you a forecast, a prediction, a hot
Speaker 4: take for this coming year, the Cardinals will double their
Speaker 4: interceptions from twenty twenty four to twenty five as a team.
Speaker 4: Great the pass rush, yes, and because of the improved
Speaker 4: hopefully cornerback play with instinctive ballhawks like Will Johnson for example,
Speaker 4: Max Melton in year two, you know, Buddha getting his
Speaker 4: hands on the ball, mors, they are able to free
Speaker 4: them up even more. Cardinals had nine interceptions as a
Speaker 4: team last year. Only seven teams had fewer. The team
Speaker 4: leader last year was Minnesota with twenty four. The Houston
Speaker 4: Texas number two with nineteen interceptions. Woh, I mean.
Speaker 1: Wolf, think about that, Paul, twenty four picks to nine.
Speaker 1: That's a huge difference.
Speaker 4: When NFL games are decided by one, two or three
Speaker 4: plays a game, right if you're getting a pick. For example,
Speaker 4: the Cardinals loss at Seattle coming out of the by
Speaker 4: what was the decisive play in the game. The Kobe
Speaker 4: Bryant picked six Yeah. To me, I think the Cardinals
Speaker 4: will have a ton more interceptions, you know. I mean
Speaker 4: they can end up with eighteen, and they can double it.
Speaker 4: I think you could almost go ahead and put it
Speaker 4: in pen. They're a postseason team if they get that
Speaker 4: many more turnovers considering how critical turnovers well, in this case,
Speaker 4: interceptions were on the offense down the stretch a year ago.
Speaker 1: Just stay secondary's past friend to have a vicious pass rush,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what we're going to see. And
Speaker 1: it's not just what I love about this Polly. It's
Speaker 1: not just skulls. It's not just the fact they've added
Speaker 1: Josh Swatt. It's not the fact that Delvin Tomlinson, it's
Speaker 1: not Kalais Campbell. It's not the fact that they've added
Speaker 1: the just these skulls. It's also the scheme that Nick
Speaker 1: Rawlis can come up with as well. Listen, sometimes one
Speaker 1: of the most effective things you can do is not
Speaker 1: bring five or six, just rush four. Are they going
Speaker 1: to have the ability to do that? Yes?
Speaker 4: And you know how we know that because Nick Rawlis
Speaker 4: confirmed as much with you, well almost he just speculated
Speaker 4: openly when he was on with you. A couple of
Speaker 4: weeks ago, and he said, well, it's totally different when
Speaker 4: you don't have to worry about bringing numbers to stop
Speaker 4: the run. When I can line up four and feel
Speaker 4: confident we're going to stop the run because I have
Speaker 4: the dudes upfront who can win their one on ones. Right, man,
Speaker 4: think of what's possible if you're the defensive coordinator. What's
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