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Speaker 4: We are the original Thursday Night Football. Paul Calvic year

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Speaker 1: There, how you doing, PAULI you know?

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Speaker 1: Well that's what you were to me all these years

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Speaker 4: It's sort of like what Caine Brown was on stage

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Speaker 4: It is the Big Red Ridge and we are talking

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Speaker 4: about maybe arguably the most complete, the best tight end

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Speaker 4: Trey McBride. I won't put him out of George Kittle yet,

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Speaker 4: I'm glad paul I saw one powerpole that at brock

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Speaker 4: Bauers better than Trey McBride as of right here, right now.

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Speaker 4: But uh, I mean wolf considering where he was two

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna say, Pauli, But it is

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Speaker 4: I guarantee you this offseason, the Rams, the forty nine

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Speaker 4: answer for Trey McBride and Kyler Murray. This offseason was asked, Okay,

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Speaker 6: Tracey has got a great feel, you know, obviously being

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Speaker 4: It's just a matchup nightmare, isn't it. Well, if it's

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Speaker 4: similar challenge to Trey McBride presents a defense, right, it's.

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Speaker 1: You're right on it, Bully. Although you've got George Kittle

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Speaker 1: You don't have to You don't have to throw it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tip Ryman, listen, nothing against Higgy Bear. I love

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Speaker 1: How much better can tip Ryman get? We we listen

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Speaker 1: don't know, Pauly, Yeah, but I think we're gonna see it.

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Speaker 4: two hundred and eighty pounder, you know, and you name

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Speaker 4: that play. Who wants some You just get a tight

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Speaker 4: we know he can play ball. He can talk ball.

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Speaker 4: How about that flashback twenty nineteen and how fitting was

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Speaker 7: Wolf.

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Speaker 4: What is it about round four draft picks? You know,

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Speaker 4: you guys fight, you guys compete. In fact, there's gonna

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Speaker 4: As our guest might be the new permanent host of

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Speaker 8: What's up? Thing that? I appreciate you guys giving me

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Speaker 4: I tell you this.

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Speaker 1: So, Chase, I got to jump in here, So Paul,

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Speaker 1: I got to jump in here. Chase, and I have

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Speaker 1: to ask you. You were drafted in the fourth round,

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Speaker 4: No, I was going to say, if you're if you're

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Speaker 4: And I know you know basketball, but we're talking football

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Speaker 4: and I'm just gonna speaking to compete. Jonathan Gannon, Cardinals

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Speaker 4: head coach, said twice this offseason he wants quote more

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Speaker 4: he wants more physicality, he wants more football, he wants

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Speaker 4: more pads popping. As a player, how do you process that?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think hearing that as a player myself, to

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Speaker 1: Hot, so Chase. When you look at the Cardinals offensively

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Speaker 8: Well, I look at Arizona. I bet a lot of

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Speaker 8: nothing opens up the pass game for them boys better

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Speaker 4: Right now, former Cardinals running back Chase Edmonds is our guest.

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Speaker 4: And if you're saying yourself, wait a minute, I saw

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Speaker 4: you would be right, Yeah, so we're gonna talk run game.

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Speaker 4: Let's zoom out here for a minute, because you were

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Speaker 8: really important again, you know, James, he brings so much

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Speaker 1: Chase, I think James Connor is one of the toughest

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Speaker 8: Man, he absolutely is. It's his contact balance. For me,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt, I mean, he was among the league

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Speaker 8: Really good question, because this is a lot like this

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Speaker 8: Buddhas were my all time favorite teammates that I got

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Speaker 8: And he's also the best player ninety nine percent of

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Speaker 4: It's funny. I saw that clip the other day, just

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Speaker 4: Baker and his greatness. Let me ask you this Cardinals

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Speaker 4: put a lot of money in that defensive front. Right,

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Speaker 4: If the pass rush is zamped up is much improved

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Speaker 4: than it was a year ago. What do you think

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Speaker 4: that does for Buddha and the rest of that secondary?

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Speaker 4: How many more interceptions for example, could that result in?

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Speaker 8: Oh? Yeah, I think when you look at a passing

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Speaker 8: defense as a collectively as a team, whether it's the

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Speaker 8: secondary or the front four, I mean, it's really the

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Speaker 8: match that makes both go. So if you have a

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Speaker 8: really good pass rush, they're getting after the quarterback, balls

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Speaker 8: gonna come out a lot faster. Your cornerbacks can kind

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Speaker 8: of sit on those shorter routes take a few more

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Speaker 8: chances than jump routs just because double moves won't happen

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Speaker 8: as much because the quarterback doesn't have that much time

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Speaker 8: to throw. So it's really a hand in hand thing

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Speaker 8: when you talk about the front four and the secondary.

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Speaker 8: I love what Arizona deal with the front four, bringing

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Speaker 8: in Josh bringing in them. I'm prettyure they brought in

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Speaker 8: a Dalvin Thomason too, right now, yeah, yeah, yeah, So

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Speaker 8: those are two really good movies. You know, DT is

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Speaker 8: going to be more of a stuff the run game

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Speaker 8: kind of guy I don't know how many sacks will get,

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Speaker 8: but he's gonna be an effective first second down in

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Speaker 8: Cherry Linon for them. And then you know, if Josh

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Speaker 8: comes in and does what he does since he's been

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Speaker 8: in Philly, they're gonna definitely have a bigger, much more

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Speaker 8: effective pass rush. So that's something that I'm really intrigued

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Speaker 8: to look at. I think Buddha. It'll give Buddha a

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Speaker 8: little more free reigns to kind of do his thing

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Speaker 8: in the secondary, while he will still be up to

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Speaker 8: the line of skimmerge literally because I think that's where

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Speaker 8: he's best suited, just because I don't think there's a

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Speaker 8: better box safety per se at affecting the run game

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Speaker 8: than Buddha Baking the NFL. But it definitely will give

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Speaker 8: him more free range in those passing situations third and

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Speaker 8: longs chase.

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Speaker 1: What is the state of football? Give me the state

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Speaker 1: of football in your opinion in the year twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Where are we I think.

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Speaker 8: The state of football right now? What you're seeing is

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Speaker 8: you're seeing a lot of teams one they want the

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Speaker 8: dual threat quarterback, right Yeah, anytime you can get a

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Speaker 8: quarterback that can ease the run game up and help

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Speaker 8: the run game as the offense just because they're an

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Speaker 8: extra threat for another defender in the box. That's something

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Speaker 8: that I think teams are really going after a lot.

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Speaker 8: I will say last year, I'm intrigued to see our

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Speaker 8: teams approach the running back market or just the running

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Speaker 8: back uses, because I think last year there was a

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Speaker 8: lot of running backs that went over a thousand yards. Man,

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Speaker 8: it was kind of as anomaly of how effective running

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Speaker 8: backs were just for some team. So I'm eager to

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Speaker 8: see how that it kind of goes because if you

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Speaker 8: asked me this two seasons ago, I just kept telling

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Speaker 8: you that, yeah, minus a passing league, it's a passing league.

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Speaker 8: It's going that way the whole way. But now you're

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Speaker 8: starting to see, you know, running backs get used a

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Speaker 8: little bit more to kind of help the quarterback out.

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Speaker 8: And I also will say that just because of how

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Speaker 8: talented the position is across the board. Now, if you

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Speaker 8: don't have a one A and a one B in

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Speaker 8: the receiver room, your offense probably won't be the upper

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Speaker 8: half of the NFL in terms of just like scoring.

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Speaker 8: That's that's something that I think is really key. Now

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Speaker 8: you look at a lot of receiver rooms in the NFL.

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Speaker 8: The best offense in the NFL usually have a one A,

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Speaker 8: one B receiver room.

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Speaker 4: In my opinion, Chase Edmund's former Cardinals running backs still

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Speaker 4: remember when Kyler came into the league, you said he's

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Speaker 4: like an extra blocker because the defense has to account

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Speaker 4: for him. Here he is going into year seven, Chase,

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Speaker 4: he took twenty seven design runs last year. There's been

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Speaker 4: a lot made of this. Should Kyler run the ball more?

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Speaker 4: For example, Lamar Jackson ran it seventy nine times in

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Speaker 4: design runs. Jane Daniels fifty eight times design runs. What

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Speaker 4: do you think the risk reward is that Kyler running

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Speaker 4: the ball more?

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Speaker 8: I think kay one should absolutely run the ball more

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Speaker 8: in terms of design runs. And not only say that

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Speaker 8: because Kyler knows how to not get hit. It's not

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Speaker 8: like Kay One's gonna go out there and get himself

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Speaker 8: hit or get himself in a situation where he's getting

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Speaker 8: risked by a big tom blow for injury. He's one

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Speaker 8: of the better quarterbacks, I think, probably the best quarterback

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Speaker 8: at not taking a big hit. So I think that

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Speaker 8: you kind of roll with that model. I would love

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Speaker 8: to see him get I mean, you said he had

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Speaker 8: twenty seven last year's seventeen games season. If he just

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Speaker 8: has two to two and a half per game, you're

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Speaker 8: looking at like the thirty five to forty five range,

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Speaker 8: and then you know him keep doing what he does

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Speaker 8: on the scrimms when they come. But I think, again,

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Speaker 8: that's just something that helps with the run game as

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Speaker 8: a whole, because now the defense has to scheme for that,

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Speaker 8: you know, and when you have a quarterback design run,

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Speaker 8: it allows you to have an extra blocker and you

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Speaker 8: know you're really running the man or man basch ups

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Speaker 8: when it comes to the run game and trying to

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Speaker 8: break out those explosive plans. So that's something that I

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Speaker 8: would love to see Kate Well just get a little

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Speaker 8: bit more active in the design run calls for him,

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Speaker 8: just because again I think he's tremendous at protecting himself.

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Speaker 1: So, Chase, you said one A and one B in receivers.

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Speaker 1: You think that an offense in twenty twenty five has

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Speaker 1: got to have a one A and a one B

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Speaker 1: in receivers. Do you count tight ends in that as well?

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Speaker 8: Yeah? Yeah, good catch with you. I should have just

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Speaker 8: said past catchers because I think Trey mcbrid is gonna

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Speaker 8: be the best tight in the football next season.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he's a dog.

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Speaker 8: I never got to meet him. He's a dog. But

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Speaker 8: I definitely believe that you need a one A one

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Speaker 8: be like, if you don't have two people in your

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Speaker 8: past catching ability team to that have a thousand yards each.

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Speaker 8: And I know that's a little aggressive, but I'm gonna say,

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Speaker 8: you know, one with twelve hundred eighty one, nine hundred,

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Speaker 8: but you're gonna need two guys that really carry that

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Speaker 8: load to create an effective offense. And if you don't

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Speaker 8: have that, then you probably just have a lot of

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Speaker 8: depth in the office of on the offensive side of

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Speaker 8: the bay. You know, you got a lot of guys contributed,

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Speaker 8: But I am a firm believer that you need to

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Speaker 8: to alphas to carry that load to have a top ten,

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Speaker 8: top twelve offense in the NFL right now.

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Speaker 4: Well, one A for Chase Edmonds is to be playing

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Speaker 4: ball in twenty twenty five. One B would be if

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Speaker 4: we could talk to them every week, because great, so

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Speaker 4: we'll see how that game plan works out.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: We always enjoy Chase really good stuff. Thanks for the

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Speaker 4: time and the insight.

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Speaker 8: Appreciate you guys. Always good talking to you guys. I

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Speaker 8: hope everyone stays healthy and will and always go cars.

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Speaker 8: I'm always in debited to the car.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go, double ding, all right, Chase Edmonds,

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Speaker 4: our guest. We continue with a big red rage presented

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Speaker 4: by Santan Ford in Gilbert the staff to Murray and

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Speaker 4: he's gonna keep the money to the right.

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Speaker 3: He's got rumb with the forty five forty He points

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Speaker 3: to the sky as he takes up with the larning

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Speaker 3: and the twenty the tenth to five touchdown a design

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Speaker 3: run for Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 4: It goes for fifty yards.

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Speaker 7: You know, we haven't had a lot of national games,

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Speaker 7: and you know this guy can make all of those

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Speaker 7: inside the pocket, outside the pocket, and he's quick. You

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Speaker 7: see it on tape. He's out running everybody all the time,

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Speaker 7: even like that forty nine Ers game where in San

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Speaker 7: fran he he points up to the touchdown, you know,

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Speaker 7: forty to fifty yards away, knowing he's going to score it.

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Speaker 7: You know, I haven't seen a QB do day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was straight out of Texas high school football.

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Speaker 4: I mean he got to the second level, the number

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Speaker 4: one went into the air and he gone fifty yard

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Speaker 4: touchdown run on the Cardinals second play from scrimmage. The

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Speaker 4: only thing hotter than the one to eleven out on

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Speaker 4: that field was Kyler Murray number one himself. It is

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Speaker 4: the big red rage by Santan Ford in Gilbert. We

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Speaker 4: heard the respect Chase Edmonds has for Kyler Murray. There's

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Speaker 4: still buds and uh Ron Wolfley, Paul kelbyc back with

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Speaker 4: you here, and I tell you what when it comes

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Speaker 4: to Kyler, there's been a lot of talk about all right,

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Speaker 4: how and where can he get better going into year seven,

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Speaker 4: and a lot of it and this is a lot

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Speaker 4: of Kyler's doing revolves around his legs. He's the one

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Speaker 4: to first really bring it up two months ago going

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Speaker 4: into a softball game.

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Speaker 1: Wolf Yeah, you're right about that, Paully. But I've just

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Speaker 1: got a comment on Dave Pash. David, only David would

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Speaker 1: talk about pointing to the sky in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the call, in the middle of the call, only Pash

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Speaker 1: would see you pointing to the sky and say that

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Speaker 1: in his call. Okay, I just wanted to get that

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Speaker 1: out of the way right there. Kyler Murray has got

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Speaker 1: to run the ball and be more spontaneous doing it.

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Speaker 1: That's I think it's the unscheduled run that JG and

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Speaker 1: Drew Petsing would like to see from Kyler Murray. That's

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Speaker 1: my guess. Paully, I could BEng on that. That's my guess.

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Speaker 4: Well, for example, there are certain stats and analytics that

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Speaker 4: said he ran the ball really well, really effectively last season.

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Speaker 4: For example, at a career high in yards per carry

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Speaker 4: seven point three and in terms of his rushing yards

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Speaker 4: over expected. One of those analytics, he was the best

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Speaker 4: among all quarterbacks according to Next Gen Stats. He just

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Speaker 4: didn't run it as much as a Lamar Jackson, a

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen, a Jayden Daniels. And and even if Patrick

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Speaker 4: mahomes and here Kyler talk about it, at least with

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Speaker 4: the media, sounds like he was sitting around watching the

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Speaker 4: AFC playoffs wolf and he's like, Oh, look at the threat,

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Speaker 4: look at the weapon legs on a quarterback can become

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Speaker 4: when it's Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, you know, Patrick mahomes On,

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Speaker 4: Keith urd Downs. Hey, wait a minute, I can do that.

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Speaker 4: I run a four to three.

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Speaker 1: And especially Paul right, especially because when you think about it,

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Speaker 1: how well the Arizona Cardinals run the ball, yes, in

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Speaker 1: between the tackles, in particular, how well they run on

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Speaker 1: the ball where they can line up in the gun

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Speaker 1: with James Connor right next to Kyler Murray and here

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Speaker 1: comes the zone Raad, Here it comes, and Kyler can

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Speaker 1: keep it and off he goes. It is a great

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Speaker 1: weapon to have, and I love the fact that Drew

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Speaker 1: Petsing likes to show it early. Almost at least in

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Speaker 1: I want to say, the vast majority of the games, Paul,

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Speaker 1: in the first quarter, you'll see the Arizona Cardinals with

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Speaker 1: a called run for Kyler Murray. And I think that

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Speaker 1: is because Drew Petsing is just letting the DC, the

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator know, hey, listen, you don't think we'll do this,

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Speaker 1: watch this. Oh we'll do it all right. You know what.

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Speaker 4: Lorenzo Alexander was on the Red Sea Report earlier this week,

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Speaker 4: and he actually gave you props for that observation. He said,

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Speaker 4: that's absolutely true. He said he does think that's by design.

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Speaker 4: I look into the Chandler Jones back in his heyday,

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Speaker 4: he would always throw a bull rush into the first

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Speaker 4: series or two just to let the tackle know I

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Speaker 4: can go through you if I have to. So there's that.

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Speaker 4: There's also more Buddha on the minachime show, and he

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Speaker 4: was just talking in general about what he's seen from

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Speaker 4: Kyler this offseason.

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Speaker 7: He practices really hard, you know, he tells receivers what

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Speaker 7: to do, you know, how to do it. He's kind

653
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Speaker 7: of been in his bag this whole off season, you know,

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Speaker 7: doing no look throws and you know, having a great

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Speaker 7: offseason training camp. So K one's gonna you know, he's

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Speaker 7: gonna run a little bit more, you know, a little

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Speaker 7: outside of the pocket inside the pocket throws. You know,

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Speaker 7: he's he's gonna kind of do it all.

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Speaker 4: That's intriguing. I mean, sort of like Kyler putting his

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Speaker 4: finger to this guy calling a shot Buddha Baker forecasting

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Speaker 4: more Kyler in the run game. I think the question

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Speaker 4: is more design runs or to your point, more off schedule,

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Speaker 4: which Drew Petsen has talked about.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly it. Pay again, maybe maybe both, Maybe yes

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Speaker 1: is the answer. Now, maybe they're gonna encourage him to

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Speaker 1: pull the ball down and run more. And I think

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Speaker 1: that is an excellent thing to do when you think

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Speaker 1: about it. Paully, think of Russell Wilson up in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: How many years he tore our hearts out by watching

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Speaker 1: him on a third and ten rush, pull the ball

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Speaker 1: down third and ten and rush for eleven yards and

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Speaker 1: move the chains. Just a backbreaker. And it's one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons why you want to do it as well,

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Speaker 1: because polly sucking the life out of your opponent is

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Speaker 1: a good thing in the football field. It is a

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Speaker 1: good thing. You want to demoralize them. There are a

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Speaker 1: couple of ways you can do that. Number One, you

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Speaker 1: just line up and run the ball right over him

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Speaker 1: and a north southway. It's the most demoralizing thing in

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Speaker 1: the game. I've said it many many times in the past.

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Speaker 1: Number Two, have a quarterback who can pull the ball

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Speaker 1: down when it's third and eight, third and obvious and

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Speaker 1: convert with his legs. That is demoralizing as well. And

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Speaker 1: that's what you want to do, not only beat a defense,

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Speaker 1: but demoralize him in the process.

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Speaker 4: You go back to the Cardinals last playoff season. It

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Speaker 4: was Week four, I believe at the La Rams. It

688
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Speaker 4: was a tight game, was third and sixteen. I remember

689
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Speaker 4: it vividly. Kyler ran for seventeen. The entire Rams defense

690
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Speaker 4: was deflated, was demoralized, depressed. It was a route from

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Speaker 4: that point forward. He absolutely demoralized him. Yep, So, okay,

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Speaker 4: we have that. I have a few other areas where

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Speaker 4: I believe Kyler can get better and dare I say

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Speaker 4: will get better in year seven? You're ready for this

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Speaker 4: quick checklist?

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 4: Number one deep pass. His first couple of years in

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Speaker 4: the league, he was among the league leaders in efficiency

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Speaker 4: on the deep chunk throws.

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Speaker 1: Paul, I'm so glad you said that, though, because everything

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Speaker 1: else comes off of that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, proceed Number two throwing wide receivers open. They might

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Speaker 4: be covered, but you're gonna throw it to a spot

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Speaker 4: where only the receiver can get it, in particular a

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Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior and a Michael Wilson, and that.

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Speaker 1: Means attack the ball. Marvin Harrison Junior attacked the ball.

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Speaker 4: Okay. Number three, chemistry with receivers sort of like what

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Speaker 4: you've been able to forge with Trey McBride ever since

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Speaker 4: his rookie year. Can you achieve some of that with

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Speaker 4: Marvin Arrison Junior, Michael Wilson, Greg derch Zay Jones.

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Speaker 1: The only thing I would say is don't force it.

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Speaker 1: Don't force it. Let it happen very organically.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I've tried to force the mantra, come for the arms,

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Speaker 4: stay for the legs over the years, hasn't got a

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Speaker 4: lot of traction. But we already talked about the legs.

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Speaker 4: So I'll go to number five, passing under pressure when

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Speaker 4: pressured and in weeks yeah, twelve, thirteen and fourteen, a

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Speaker 4: critical stretch of the Cardinals season coming out of the

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Speaker 4: by when Kyler was under pressure. According to next Gen Stats,

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Speaker 4: he went seven of twenty seven passing fifty nine yards,

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Speaker 4: zero touchdowns, five picks. Now, once again, it's not always

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Speaker 4: on the quarterback where the receivers in the right spot,

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Speaker 4: where the receivers coming back for the ball. Were the

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Speaker 4: receivers making adjustments when they knew the quarterback was under duress.

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Speaker 4: I think as an offense, they have to be better

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Speaker 4: when Kyler is under pressure.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Paulli, it's a great observation by you right there,

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Speaker 1: and think about this. You gotta go ahead and get

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Speaker 1: the ball out quicker two. That's why you don't want

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Speaker 1: to be in third and obvious pass situations, Paul, you

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Speaker 1: don't want Kyler in third and obvious. It's the reason

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Speaker 1: why first and second down really matter. You want him

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Speaker 1: in third and three, third and four, you want him

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Speaker 1: in that area. So now, all of a sudden, anything

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Speaker 1: could happen. A quick pass could beat you and move

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Speaker 1: the chads right.

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Speaker 4: Speaking to receivers, get ready for the twenty twenty five

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Speaker 4: season with the latest gear from the Cardinals team shop,

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Speaker 4: You know where else Kyler I think gets better this

742
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Speaker 4: year is when he has to compete against a much

743
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Speaker 4: improved defense in practice every day. That Cardinals defense in

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00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: mini camp, I'm told was really balling and really give

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Speaker 4: them the offense all they can handle. We'll talk more

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Speaker 4: about that next. It is the Big Red Rage presented

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Speaker 4: by santan Ford and Gilbert We are sandtan Ford.

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Speaker 3: So it takes play fake boot to the left looking

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Speaker 3: dumping it off near side. He'll caught it and tackled

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Speaker 3: immediately by Buddha Baker. It's going to be a negative

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Speaker 3: play right now, they're saying incomplete as Hill and Buddha

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Speaker 3: Baker are jawing a little bit.

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Speaker 9: He's not backing down from anybody, man. I mean he's

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Speaker 9: a captain for one of the reasons he's a captain

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Speaker 9: is his intensity and his mode of play. And that's

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Speaker 9: how he's always been and he's going to max out

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Speaker 9: every single snap and he ain't backing out from anybody.

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Speaker 4: Five time team Captain, seven time Pro bowler, four time

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Speaker 4: All Pro Buddha Baker, and one epic memorable trash talk

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Speaker 4: session with Tyreek Hill there on the road in Miami

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Speaker 4: early in the game, set in the tone face mask

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Speaker 4: to face mass rooting in a tutin two of them

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Speaker 4: going at it as a There was Buddha and guess

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Speaker 4: what there were the Cardinals pulling away in the second

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Speaker 4: half for a win at Miami. It is the Big

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Speaker 4: Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are

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Speaker 4: santan Ford, Paul calvic, Ron Wolfley, and a Bodah Baker,

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Speaker 4: who I still well for all his accolades. I still

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Speaker 4: don't think people appreciate it, especially last year, quite to

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Speaker 4: the degree they should. He set a career high in

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Speaker 4: tackles of bucks sixty four, number two in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: and tackles the top ten were all inside linebackers and Buddha.

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Speaker 4: And it's the most tackles by a Cardinals player in

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Speaker 4: a single season since at least nineteen ninety one.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Paul, didn't you get in between Buddha

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Speaker 1: and Tyreek Hill. Didn't you get in a.

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Speaker 4: Couple of fine diminion of Americans? They said, guys, come on,

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Speaker 4: break it up. Over here, break it up. We got

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Speaker 4: a long game.

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Speaker 1: Truly incredible. You know, I say this all the time

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Speaker 1: about Buddha, Baker, Polly, it is. It's amazing. Though you

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Speaker 1: just watch him on tape. He does two things. He

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Speaker 1: does two things. He goes to the wall fearlessly, and

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Speaker 1: he does it every play. Those two things, that's what

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Speaker 1: he does.

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Speaker 4: And this defense, Johnathan again and Nick Ross, they are

787
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Speaker 4: getting the best out of Buddha, as evidenced by those numbers.

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Speaker 4: Not only a career high end tackles, but he had

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Speaker 4: ten tackles for loss, He had five passes defense, he

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Speaker 4: had three quarterback hits, two sacks. In other words, he's

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Speaker 4: all over the field. And here he is with Mina

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Speaker 4: Kimes and she asked him just about how the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: have evolved their defensive scheme.

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Speaker 7: They did a great job just watching the film each

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Speaker 7: and every year and kind of evolving their defenses. You know,

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Speaker 7: they came from Philadelphia and they did a lot of

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Speaker 7: stuff in Philly. They also had a great d line.

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Speaker 7: But in this scene, it gives the ability for the

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Speaker 7: you know, the dbs and the linebackers to kind of

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Speaker 7: not exactly show our hand to the offenses until the

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Speaker 7: ball snapped. So add that with the with the great

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Speaker 7: defensive line and some edge rushers, you know, we're cooking

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Speaker 7: with hot reed.

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Speaker 4: Is there any doubt in your mind that they unlocked

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Speaker 4: Buddha Baker last season?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now you're you're right, Balie. They put him in position,

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Speaker 1: keeping him in the box, around the box an awful lot.

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Speaker 1: I should say, not just in it, but around it

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Speaker 1: and in it from time to time. He did both,

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Speaker 1: but just allowing him to use his instincts. Paul, I've

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Speaker 1: said this many times. It's the truth. It's Troy Palamalu.

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Speaker 1: Palamalu was just like that as well, and the Steelers

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Speaker 1: used him just the way that I saw Nick rawlis

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Speaker 1: using Buddha Baker last year an awful lot. Sometimes the

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Speaker 1: blantz sometimes not to giving him the option whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: keeping him in the middle of the field, letting him

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Speaker 1: read plays, diagnose plays. Buddha is really good and he's

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Speaker 1: got good instincts. And then to make tackles. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: that's why Buddha had over one hundred and sixty tackles.

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Speaker 4: So, you know, last year I was sort of on

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Speaker 4: a mission. I was trying to figure out exactly what

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Speaker 4: and how they were unlocking Buddha. Baker and I kept

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Speaker 4: getting the heisman in that locker room. But then then

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Speaker 4: Wolf late December January, I started to get a little

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Speaker 4: bit info from a few guys, and you're on it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's not much more I can add to

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Speaker 4: that other than they really allowed Buddha to have more

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Speaker 4: on the quarterback. They put him inside more so it

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Speaker 4: wasn't as easy for offense as to go to one

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Speaker 4: side or the other because he was more in the

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Speaker 4: center of the box and so he could get, you know,

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Speaker 4: to either side at the same time when he wanted

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Speaker 4: to go, when he wanted to shoot his gun, he

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Speaker 4: would just do it with instincts, like you said, Troy Polamalo,

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Speaker 4: and then the secondary would adjust accordingly. They would watch

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Speaker 4: number three and they say, Okay, is he going, is

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Speaker 4: he going? He's going boom? Everyone would check and they

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Speaker 4: would have some of his responsibilities if he decided to

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Speaker 4: let it rip and go downhill.

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Speaker 1: PAULI, that is that is really brilliant. It is that

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Speaker 1: the rest of the secondary is basically going to read Buddha.

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Speaker 1: Very interesting. Just like a wide receiver has got to

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Speaker 1: read coverage on a read route yep. So all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you've got this secondary actually reading one player

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Speaker 1: that might blitz or not. That that is brilliant to me.

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Speaker 4: In fact, Mina Kaim smart enough to drill down a

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Speaker 4: little deeper with Buddha and just the scheme and how

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Speaker 4: it allowed him to be near number one receivers more.

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Speaker 7: I love it. You know, it gives me the opportunity

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Speaker 7: to kind of be where opposing number one receivers are

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Speaker 7: instead of just you know, being at free statety all day.

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Speaker 7: And you know that can give offenses opportunities to kind

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Speaker 7: of stay away, and this game is it's not like that,

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Speaker 7: So I'm excited.

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Speaker 4: Well, if you had a chance to interview a lot

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Speaker 4: of Cardinals players in the offseason, like yours truly did.

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Speaker 4: I had two guys, Jalen Thompson and Starling Thomas both

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Speaker 4: confirm that team started stealing the Cardinals defensive schemes and

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Speaker 4: their coverages towards the end of last season. Is there

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Speaker 4: any greater compliment then when you're plagiarized, when people are,

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Speaker 4: you know, just copying what you're running and you're seeing

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Speaker 4: on a film, when you're watching other teams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're right about that, Polly. There is no

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Speaker 1: better compliment than imitation. You're going to start ripping off

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Speaker 1: from other teams. That is amazing. But you know what, Pauline,

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to Buddha Baker and Buddha

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Speaker 1: Baker when he signed his extension with the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: Don't tell me for a minute. The culture is what

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Speaker 1: he loves here. But you also have to believe that

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Speaker 1: Nick rawlis using him the way that he does and

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Speaker 1: allowing him to play in this defense. Don't tell me

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Speaker 1: that that didn't have something to do with Buddha Baker

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Speaker 1: looking at himself and his career in saying, yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is the place for me.

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Speaker 4: And what's amazing is what James Connor has done for

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Speaker 4: Trey Benson. Trey Benson admitting recently the yeah, a lot

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Speaker 4: of his play style now has been influenced by James

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Speaker 4: Connor kram at vertical. There's no doubt that has rubbed

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Speaker 4: off on Trey Benson. I asked Rabbit this week, right

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Speaker 4: year two safety, and he said, absolutely, JT and Buddha's

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Speaker 4: playing style has rubbed off on me. I thought I

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Speaker 4: was a pretty good tackler, but I watch those guys.

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Speaker 4: They try and plant people. They try and pick him

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Speaker 4: up and plant him into the ground. So now that's

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Speaker 4: what I'm trying to do. It's really interesting. I think

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Speaker 4: you're seeing this in all the position rooms. It's a

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Speaker 4: key reason why the Cardinals obviously added Kaleis Campbell with

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Speaker 4: two young first round defensive linemen. These younger guys learning

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Speaker 4: from experts of the craft, the veteran guys, some of

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Speaker 4: the team leaders in that locker room.

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Speaker 1: Well, especially too if you're a Rabbit, because Rabbit is

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Speaker 1: not a big guy. He's not a proto typical safety

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. He's more towards Buddhist size, yep.

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Speaker 1: And because of that, he's got to be greatly encouraged

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Speaker 1: watching this guy do what he does right in front

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Speaker 1: of him every Sunday. That's got to help.

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Speaker 4: So we asked Chase Edmonds about the Cardinals improved pass

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Speaker 4: rush and potentially what that could do for the secondary

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Speaker 4: and the interceptions in general. I'm pretty convinced if you

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Speaker 4: made me give you a forecast, a prediction, a hot

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Speaker 4: take for this coming year, the Cardinals will double their

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Speaker 4: interceptions from twenty twenty four to twenty five as a team.

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Speaker 4: Great the pass rush, yes, and because of the improved

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Speaker 4: hopefully cornerback play with instinctive ballhawks like Will Johnson for example,

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Speaker 4: Max Melton in year two, you know, Buddha getting his

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Speaker 4: hands on the ball, mors, they are able to free

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Speaker 4: them up even more. Cardinals had nine interceptions as a

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Speaker 4: team last year. Only seven teams had fewer. The team

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Speaker 4: leader last year was Minnesota with twenty four. The Houston

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Speaker 4: Texas number two with nineteen interceptions. Woh, I mean.

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Speaker 1: Wolf, think about that, Paul, twenty four picks to nine.

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Speaker 1: That's a huge difference.

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Speaker 4: When NFL games are decided by one, two or three

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Speaker 4: plays a game, right if you're getting a pick. For example,

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Speaker 4: the Cardinals loss at Seattle coming out of the by

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Speaker 4: what was the decisive play in the game. The Kobe

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Speaker 4: Bryant picked six Yeah. To me, I think the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: will have a ton more interceptions, you know. I mean

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Speaker 4: they can end up with eighteen, and they can double it.

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Speaker 4: I think you could almost go ahead and put it

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Speaker 4: in pen. They're a postseason team if they get that

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Speaker 4: many more turnovers considering how critical turnovers well, in this case,

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Speaker 4: interceptions were on the offense down the stretch a year ago.

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Speaker 1: Just stay secondary's past friend to have a vicious pass rush,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's what we're going to see. And

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Speaker 1: it's not just what I love about this Polly. It's

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Speaker 1: not just skulls. It's not just the fact they've added

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Speaker 1: Josh Swatt. It's not the fact that Delvin Tomlinson, it's

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Speaker 1: not Kalais Campbell. It's not the fact that they've added

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Speaker 1: the just these skulls. It's also the scheme that Nick

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Speaker 1: Rawlis can come up with as well. Listen, sometimes one

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Speaker 1: of the most effective things you can do is not

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Speaker 1: bring five or six, just rush four. Are they going

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Speaker 1: to have the ability to do that? Yes?

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Speaker 4: And you know how we know that because Nick Rawlis

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Speaker 4: confirmed as much with you, well almost he just speculated

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Speaker 4: openly when he was on with you. A couple of

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Speaker 4: weeks ago, and he said, well, it's totally different when

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Speaker 4: you don't have to worry about bringing numbers to stop

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Speaker 4: the run. When I can line up four and feel

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Speaker 4: confident we're going to stop the run because I have

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Speaker 4: the dudes upfront who can win their one on ones. Right, man,

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Speaker 4: think of what's possible if you're the defensive coordinator. What's

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