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Speaker 1: Welcome into another edition of the Jaguars Reporters podcast. Heading

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Speaker 1: into the Week nine by JP Shadwick, Brian Sexton, John Ozier,

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Speaker 1: Kay Stevens. The Jags are on a five game winning streak,

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Speaker 1: five different stadiums, four different cities, six and two record

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Speaker 1: their best start since nineteen ninety nine, when they started

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Speaker 1: seven and one, tied for the second best started franchise history.

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Speaker 1: And Brian will start with the history of that because

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Speaker 1: it's certainly noteworthy, and it's somewhere this team hasn't been

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Speaker 1: since the nineteen nineties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as I look at it, you know, and John

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Speaker 2: can confirm this. Those were very talented teams. They had depth,

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Speaker 2: they had young players behind veteran players, They were very

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Speaker 2: well coached. This team reminds me of that knowledgeable Jags

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Speaker 2: fans can go back and look at seven and five

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Speaker 2: and say, hey, they got off the great starts early too,

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Speaker 2: But those teams weren't as good as the ninety eight

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Speaker 2: to ninety nine Jags, by the way, the last and

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Speaker 2: only teams to win back to back division titles, which

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Speaker 2: is in this team's winshield, right, So talented, well coached,

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Speaker 2: and just seem absolutely unfazed by anything that comes their way.

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Speaker 2: And obviously, John, when you have a quarterback like Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 2: it's tough to get down.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's there's another difference five and seven that you

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Speaker 3: have to good starts. And they were two games behind already. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because you had a behemoth in the division and the

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Speaker 3: Colts that was going to be very hard to catch.

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Speaker 3: Now you're six and two, start your two and a

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Speaker 3: half games up, so you feel like you're in control

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Speaker 3: of the division, which mentally in confidence wise. Look, they're

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Speaker 3: tied for the best record in the AFC right now,

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Speaker 3: they're one of teams that are in it. They got

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Speaker 3: to keep getting better. But I kept saying last week,

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Speaker 3: this is how division titles are built, and this is

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Speaker 3: how the playoff pushes winning games late, doing it with defense,

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Speaker 3: doing however you have to do it. This is what

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Speaker 3: contending and being good is. This is what it looks like.

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Speaker 3: This team hasn't seen it in a while, but.

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Speaker 4: This is what it looks like it does and it's

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Speaker 4: finding a way to win. Right. We talk about that

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Speaker 4: all the time. People right into you, John, I'm shore

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Speaker 4: complaining about the offense. Oh I think a few might

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Speaker 4: because we hear it as well just from people around

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Speaker 4: and you know, the offense isn't doing this and they're

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Speaker 4: not doing that, and they can't keep doing that. They

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Speaker 4: can't keep doing this. But they're still finding a way

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Speaker 4: to win at the end of the day and they're

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Speaker 4: not trailing as well. And that's a huge point. We

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Speaker 4: talked about it on jag Zam earlier this week that

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Speaker 4: this team is not making the best decisions sometimes, but

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Speaker 4: it's not necessarily costing them. They're making turnovers and only

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Speaker 4: three points off those three turnovers in the game against

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Speaker 4: the Steelers. So yes, I would appreciate Trevor not throwing

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Speaker 4: into triple coverage against the Steelers in a game, but

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Speaker 4: it didn't end up hurting them as much as it

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Speaker 4: could have. And then rebounding from that, not letting that

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Speaker 1: I think they have trailed for seven minutes ten seconds

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Speaker 3: And they had the ball the entire time and hadn't

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Speaker 4: We just had the ball first.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so they basically haven't trailed and they've been in

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Speaker 3: control of every game for five straight weeks. And look,

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Speaker 3: this team can be really good for a long time

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Speaker 3: and never.

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Speaker 5: Match that stat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so enjoy it, folks, because you're not gonna lead

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Speaker 1: Yeah. All these games are back and forth, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: changing leads and dramatic things in the end. Not the

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Speaker 1: last month. Yeah, Jaguars has been in control at least

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Speaker 1: so far, and the defense obviously has a big piece

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Speaker 1: to set up everything else. They had some pieces missing

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Speaker 4: It's cool to see also that if you don't have

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Speaker 4: your top guys, you can still play well. Right when

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Speaker 4: the pregame report comes out inactives, you see Andre Cisco

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Speaker 4: That would be concerning for most people. But to see

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Speaker 4: And they were able to kind of maintain and they

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Speaker 4: the third quarter. It's not like I mean, yes, it

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Speaker 2: This group won't match twenty seventeen in terms of scoring

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Speaker 2: they play the run. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe the numbers

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Speaker 2: This team just they fill every gap. They're more physical,

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Speaker 2: I think upfront, and I thought Devon Hamilton added an

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Speaker 3: I think it's much more solid against the run. If

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Speaker 3: get Marcel Darius to fix the run, and even after that,

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Speaker 3: there were times where the run would get them and

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Speaker 3: they're not gonna score points that often. But I think

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Speaker 3: they've allowed seven points or few or seven of eight games.

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Speaker 5: Well, that means.

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Speaker 3: You're always in the game, and sometimes you're ahead because

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Speaker 3: this defense, the way it plays solid overall, feels sustainable

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Speaker 3: think you're gonna see forty five forty two in Pittsburgh

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Speaker 5: I this defense is going to be consistent.

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Speaker 2: And I do think we should point out as we

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Speaker 2: say this, they lead the league with eighteen takeaways, right,

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Speaker 2: so they may not have that all pro strike score

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Speaker 2: kind of thing put up two or three pick sixes

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Speaker 2: a group that takes the ball away and plays really

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Speaker 2: The Darius Kalais, Campbell, Malik Jackson sort of big name,

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Speaker 5: What they've got is.

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Speaker 3: After seven weeks, I think we can decide they are

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Speaker 3: eight weeks and that they are really hard to run against.

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Speaker 5: A pot of.

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Speaker 3: Cossi's playing really well. Hamilton only makes that group better.

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Speaker 3: It's really hard to run at Trayvon Walker's side. I mean,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot where you're game planning for this team.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of things where the coaches and say, what,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be hard to do this, It's gonna be

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Speaker 3: hard to do this. Well, what can we do? What

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Speaker 3: we've got to go to this side? Well, that makes

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Speaker 3: there's been no time where you felt like got teams

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Speaker 1: Jaguars fourth in the league in rush defense overall seventy

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Speaker 1: of talk going into the Pittsburgh game about the pass defense. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: George Pickens did not really delve into it too far. However,

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are thirty first in pass defense, but twelfth

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Speaker 3: Plus when you're ahead all the time, yes, which they

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Speaker 3: You know Steelers are a capable offense. I don't know

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Speaker 3: let them complete eight yard passes and come up and stop. Well,

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, that's fifty yards of passing offense.

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen did the same thing in London. Yeah you're here.

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Speaker 3: So one of the most overrated stats, and a stat

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Speaker 3: If you're playing good defense everywhere else, that stats almost

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Speaker 1: Right, we'll come back in a moment. Little offensive talking

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Speaker 1: in the bye week is ahead and plenty more to come.

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Speaker 6: It's Jaguars reporters, welcome back to the Jaguars Reporters Podcast,

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Speaker 6: Jap Shadwick, Kai Stevens, Brian Sexiston, John Oser, The Jaguars

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Speaker 6: and the forty nine Ers coming up in week ten,

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Speaker 6: standing room tickets being.

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Speaker 1: Sold already six Street three two thousand or of his

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Speaker 1: at Jaguars dot com slash tickets, and we'll see what

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Speaker 1: time that game actually is. There are rumblings that maybe

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Speaker 1: it could be a candidate to be flexed in week ten.

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Speaker 1: They have to announce it by Tuesday after. They're going

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Speaker 1: to do it either at four or at the primetime game.

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Speaker 1: We'll see. We'll see what happens with that one. That

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Speaker 1: would be quite a change, a sea change in the franchise.

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Speaker 1: If you can get that flexed from one o'clock to

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Speaker 2: It's it might not be the marquee matchup that gets

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Speaker 2: you're talking about a San Francisco team that has, even

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Speaker 2: though they've lost three in a row, that has as

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're really really talented, and you got an

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Speaker 4: Look at us, guys. I came here in April and

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Speaker 4: I said something to someone about, oh, what do we

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Speaker 4: look at us Thursday night primetime, Sunday night primetime, Monday

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Speaker 4: It's isn't it nice?

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Speaker 2: It's Oh listen, I mean John's home games art are

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Speaker 5: Don't mind it.

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Speaker 4: I said, John's still mad. He doesn't want to talk

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Speaker 2: But the fan based the fan bases. They proved last

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Speaker 2: So if they do it, I understand why. If they don't,

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Speaker 5: I want I want to set you up for that.

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Speaker 3: We are now at the point where that's not gonna

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Speaker 3: And I said last year people were getting angry because

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Speaker 3: and I don't mean Dewey, they're gonna be on TV

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Speaker 2: You look at the matchup they've got coming up in Frankfort,

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Speaker 2: And so from that perspective, the Jaguars have already played twice.

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Speaker 3: And my guess is, if the league thought Miami was

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Speaker 5: I think it'd be here. But anytime you have good

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anytime you have Kansas City in the only game

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I told you guys the story before.

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Speaker 3: When I first got to Indianapolis, Peyton was in his

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Speaker 3: Yet it felt like in my last eight or nine

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Speaker 3: India the time was not considered a prime market. They

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Speaker 5: Maybe they had had one when the Jags went up there.

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Speaker 5: You played there in September two thousand so.

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Speaker 3: Two, and then all of a sudden they couldn't be

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Speaker 5: They're going to be there a lot now.

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Speaker 1: Guy. The Patriots were always prime time. One o'clock was

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well we'd have a couple, but then it was

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Speaker 5: It's a good thing.

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Speaker 4: We're getting there here.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: It's coming quick. We'll see what happens in the week ahead.

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Speaker 1: Bye week. Everybody rested up. Let's come back for the stretch.

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Speaker 1: Run strong, John, You actually.

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Speaker 5: All right, coach, Here we go, ready break.

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