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Speaker 3: perfectly timed task smell us with the Honest News. The

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Speaker 3: question is who's going to be the best team in

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Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference?

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Speaker 4: What do you got?

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Speaker 3: You get to start it?

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Speaker 2: It is the Milwaukee Bucks. They were the best team

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Speaker 2: last year despite what happened in the playoffs, and they

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Speaker 2: got better by getting Drew Holliday. They desperately needed a

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Speaker 2: And I know the bog Dan Bogdanovich situation, that fiasco

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Speaker 2: drugh Holiday. They are absolutely one hundred percent better and

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Speaker 2: the team that was behind them two and a half

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Speaker 2: crazy to look at it because the Heat lost. I'm

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Speaker 2: sorry the Bucks lost to the Miami Heat in the

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Speaker 2: second round. The third place team is seven and a

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Speaker 2: they recovered really, really well. In the offseason. They definitely

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Speaker 2: got better. They're number one, even though there's lots of

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Speaker 2: The Bucks are going to tell you, hey, if we

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Speaker 2: had home court advantage and we weren't playing the Bubble,

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Speaker 2: things would have been different. But all that wouldn't matter

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Speaker 2: what they did in the off season if Jannisteticombo doesn't

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Speaker 2: sign the super Max deal, which he signed yesterday, the

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Speaker 2: biggest contract in NBA history, two hundred and twenty eight

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Speaker 2: million Bucks. So kudos to the Bucks, kudos to Milwaukee organization.

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Speaker 2: It's great a small market can sign the two time

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Speaker 2: It's great for the small market franchises that in this scenario,

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Speaker 2: Unless you're an Atlanta Hawks fan, don't go to Hawks,

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Speaker 3: Yes, he was never leaving. I was on record saying that,

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Speaker 3: so I wasn't all that surprised. But I'm with you

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Speaker 1: Woe as me.

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Speaker 3: We're not getting honest anymore. My god, Like you're seeing

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Speaker 3: two thousands, two thousands, Like this is where we're at.

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Speaker 3: They've got a title. There's still a great team. They've

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Speaker 3: still a great team like this, like, oh it's over.

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Speaker 3: We didn't get you honest, I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: Come on, Raptors fans, know your history. The only time

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Speaker 3: Were never getting them just because they got the Dan

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Speaker 3: Forth and Messiu Jeri. You know, it's like, come on,

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Speaker 3: I don't think they leave it. But this is a

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Speaker 3: big win. Leally like this this super Mac extension now

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Speaker 3: six years. This deal guarantees the six years for your

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Speaker 3: lot of pressure on Butenholzer to get that team very

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Speaker 3: endorsement for the Bucks organization, A big win for small markets, right,

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Speaker 3: Like like Tass said, like Kawhi les san Antonio, right,

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Speaker 3: hanging over the Bucks all season long? He signs it

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, Janni's made them sweat a little bit,

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Speaker 1: the best chance. But your point there, I think Budenholzer

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Speaker 1: I think this is potentially his last season there in Milwaukee,

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Speaker 1: They've been the favorite to make the finals, I believe

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Speaker 1: So now it's like, Okay, he has to get them

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Speaker 3: What do you think, Trey Lee said? Clearly, the Buck's

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Speaker 3: the best team in the East, at least in the

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Speaker 3: as we talked about yesterday, that's Ray, We're going deep

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Speaker 3: with Forbes, lose Eric Bloodsoel Weston Matthews, George Hill. I mean,

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Speaker 3: is it enough? Are they still the number one seed

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Speaker 1: What's your team?

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Speaker 4: Two totally different questions. I'm with you, guys. On the

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Speaker 4: regular season. This is huge for Milwaukee to bring back

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Speaker 4: Giannis without the question over their heads of is he

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Speaker 4: ever going to sign? Is he gonna sign long term?

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Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. They can focus on this season, be

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Speaker 4: ready to just play basketball and stack some wins up

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Speaker 4: in that win column. They're gonna do that, no doubt

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Speaker 4: about it. Mike Budenholzer's teams have had the best record

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Speaker 4: in the Eastern Conference three of the past six seasons.

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Speaker 4: Obviously the last couple of years they've had Giannis as

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Speaker 4: that's going to be stopping Kevin Durant. Who are the

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Speaker 4: Giannis and Drew Holliday. Those are locked in as starters,

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Speaker 4: But if you look at a team like the Nets,

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Speaker 1: Well, I think the Celtics are going to be pretty close.

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Speaker 4: and get some buckets. The defense, it's gonna come down

432
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Speaker 4: to Simmons, Embiid and uh Matisse Thibel to help as

433
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Speaker 4: well there. But I just think that I'm you know,

434
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Speaker 4: custom fitting around Simmons and Embid. I think it's gonna

435
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Speaker 4: be an advantage for the Sixers. But I am honestly

436
00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,679
Speaker 4: trying to pump my brakes so much on buying in

437
00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,600
Speaker 4: on the Sixers this year because every preseason it's like,

438
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,800
Speaker 4: oh man, they got these two guys. Either one of

439
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,760
Speaker 4: them could win MVP. That's what Daryl Morey's Instagram said.

440
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Speaker 4: I'm in not this year. You're not getting me this year.

441
00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,240
Speaker 4: Six years. I have confidence. I think they're gonna be better,

442
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Speaker 4: but we got to see how it goes.

443
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Speaker 3: Okay, so you're gonna slow play it with the Sixers

444
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Speaker 3: task what do you think with them? Are you buying it?

445
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Speaker 3: Did you watch their preseason game on TNT last night?

446
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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, they were looking good and Beid was

447
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Speaker 3: looking invigorated.

448
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're Tier two for me, and then that's that's

449
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,359
Speaker 2: that's the way it's gonna be. Until they can prove it.

450
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 2: They just haven't been able to maximize their talent. This

451
00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,080
Speaker 2: is the year to see if Embiid and Simmons have

452
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,440
Speaker 2: worked together because they have two shooters that are perfect

453
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Speaker 2: in Danny Green and Seth Curry around them. This is

454
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Speaker 2: the one. This is it. It was odd to see

455
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Speaker 2: Ben Simmons off the ball a lot yesterday, and I

456
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 2: know we kind of saw that in the playoffs last

457
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Speaker 2: year with Shake Milton taking the point guard role and

458
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons was quote unquote playing power forward. It was

459
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Speaker 2: weird to see him in the dunker spot hanging out

460
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Speaker 2: down low. But I think he will sort of take

461
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Speaker 2: control of the offense and if there is space out there,

462
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,439
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons is going to thrive. But will Tobias Harris

463
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Speaker 2: great space with Seth Curry and Danny Green? I think so.

464
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Speaker 2: I think this is the absolute perfect recipe for those

465
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Speaker 2: two guys. To succeed. But I've been fooled before and

466
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 2: buying Joel Embiid's lines about losing weight and stop drinking

467
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 2: those Shirley temples. This is it, though, This is where

468
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 2: the chemistry has to come into play. I'm not sure

469
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Speaker 2: if they're going to get an Airbnb and lift together

470
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Speaker 2: for the whole season, but either way, this is it.

471
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Speaker 2: They've got it all. They've got to be able to

472
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Speaker 2: do it. They've got to be able to jump into

473
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Speaker 2: that Tier one or else they've got to blow it

474
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Speaker 2: up right.

475
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Speaker 3: Philly's gonna win the championship though, because they have Danny

476
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Speaker 3: Green on their aster, and that's just how it goes.

477
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Speaker 3: Great beg Danny Green, you win the title.

478
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Speaker 4: For a while, they're the thunder. We're looking like the favorites,

479
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Speaker 4: which was quite a surprise in my block. But we

480
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 4: didn't get a good question from the Scream team. Robbie

481
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Speaker 4: Griffy asks, I think this is mostly a question for Lee.

482
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Speaker 4: Who do you think does the Lion's share of the

483
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Speaker 4: housework in the Simmons embedd in part apartment.

484
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Speaker 1: That's a great question. Who's a little more tidy you think?

485
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Speaker 1: I think probably be Simmons is.

486
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Speaker 4: Probably little it's a little more tidy, agreed.

487
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think Joe could be a little sloppy.

488
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Speaker 1: That's okay, we all get a bit sloppy at times. Yeah.

489
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Speaker 1: I think it's probably going to be Simmons as well.

490
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Speaker 1: He's the point guard, you know, so he's supposed to

491
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Speaker 1: sort of take care of his teammates. So I think

492
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Speaker 1: that will be And I think I think Joe mb

493
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Speaker 1: would be the one who maybe orders the food, but

494
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Speaker 1: Simmons has to go and pick it up and.

495
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Speaker 3: Then clean it up too.

496
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Speaker 1: Yeah okay, yeah, yeah, I think some wonder what these

497
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Speaker 1: guys are, what are they door dash into their house.

498
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Speaker 3: Everything and anything? I would think, Oh, I love this idea.

499
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 3: I mean, this is how we could really try and

500
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Speaker 3: like get control of the COVID nineteen. Just put every

501
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Speaker 3: team in a house together, make them live together, and

502
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,199
Speaker 3: then record all of this and you got your you know,

503
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Speaker 3: you got thirty reality.

504
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Speaker 1: Television goes right there.

505
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Speaker 3: Then jade E's all in on watching these and he's

506
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 3: got opinions about the team based on the reality. I mean,

507
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 3: they should really be doing this or at least for

508
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Speaker 3: one of these teams. Yeah, I think you're rightly. I

509
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Speaker 3: think Simmons even he like, because he's the point guard,

510
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 3: he probably sets up like that bulletin or the yeah,

511
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 3: the bulletin board or whatever, like piece of paper that

512
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Speaker 3: has like, Okay, on Wednesdays you're doing the dishes and

513
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 3: on Thursdays you're taking out the garbage. But then a

514
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Speaker 3: bead just I don't think he's like he just looks

515
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Speaker 3: at it and walks right by it.

516
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's got to be somebody who runs the house,

517
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Speaker 4: and there's got to be somebody who brings the vibes.

518
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Speaker 4: Joel Embiid seems like the vibes guy.

519
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think Simmons is kind of like, yeah,

520
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Speaker 1: he's a bit sluppy as a half, but he's fun,

521
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Speaker 1: so I could put up with it.

522
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Speaker 3: They also have Tobias is there.

523
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Speaker 1: I think they just make Tobias do everything.

524
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Speaker 3: You did it, okay. Any other teams, like, you know,

525
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 3: the Raptors of course, are sort of in the grouping.

526
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Speaker 3: You know, it's no one is listing the pacers in

527
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Speaker 3: this group, which is a little interesting. The Miami Heat

528
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 3: have been thrown around, obviously going to the finals last year,

529
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Speaker 3: and we debated whether or not that was just a

530
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Speaker 3: perfect storm because they were in the bubble? Can they

531
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Speaker 3: repeat that task? What do you think of those three

532
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Speaker 3: that I just listed if you had to exclude one

533
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Speaker 3: of them from the bunches at Indiana and you just

534
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 3: don't have a lot of faith in them running back

535
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 3: Because you talk about continuity, I think they've got the

536
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Speaker 3: most continuity in the league with their same roster basically

537
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Speaker 3: coming back.

538
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Speaker 2: What do you think, Well, we can't name every Eastern

539
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Speaker 2: Conference team here to be part of the elite. The

540
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Speaker 2: the Nets, the Heat, the Bucks, and the Celtics to

541
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Speaker 2: me are at the top fighting for those top four

542
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Speaker 2: and the Raptors are right there, and I think their

543
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Speaker 2: goal should be in the top four and I think

544
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Speaker 2: that would be a successful season, even though there are

545
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Speaker 2: number two last year, I think that's where they are.

546
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Speaker 2: And the Sixers are right there with the Raptors after that. Yeah,

547
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 2: the Pacers are in the fam with the Magic and

548
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: those other teams vying for the bottom seeds.

549
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, do you agree with that tray?

550
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 3: You don't really have the Pacers cracking into that let's

551
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 3: call it top six type of group.

552
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Speaker 4: The Pacers are the opposite of the Sixers for me,

553
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 4: every year in on the Sixers, out on the Pacers.

554
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,239
Speaker 4: Not this year. The Pacers are going to be better

555
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 4: than we're expecting, because the Pacers are usually better than

556
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 4: we are expecting, even if they've changed their nates. They

557
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Speaker 4: had Nate McMillan last year at Nate Yorkrin. This year,

558
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 4: Nate McMillan's teams have generally overachieved. I would say, we

559
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 4: don't really know much about what Nate Yorkrn's going to

560
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 4: look like here, but you know, it's been The Raptors

561
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 4: were a great team. He seemed to be part of

562
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 4: the offensive innovation there. So you know, it seems like

563
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 4: the Pacers are moving the ball a little bit more.

564
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 4: They have a team that really will need a solid

565
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 4: offensive system, you know. And I think Nate McMillan did

566
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 4: have some good offense, but it was built around a

567
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 4: little bit of an older concept, similar to he was

568
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 4: with the Blazers coaching there. But I don't know, it

569
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 4: seems to me like the Pacers every single year, I'm like,

570
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 4: these tea guys are gonna finish seventh, and they finished fifth.

571
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 4: That's probably what will happen again this year. Maybe things pop,

572
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 4: Maybe the weirdness over the summer with Oladipo maybe wanting out,

573
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Speaker 4: maybe not wanting out, bringing in a new coach. Maybe

574
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 4: it's all just narrative stuff that we're worrying too much about,

575
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 4: and the players are actually pretty solid up and down

576
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 4: the rust.

577
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm fascinated to see how Miles Turner plays if

578
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 3: he's still there on opening night, because his name was

579
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 3: definitely included in trade talks. I mean, the Gordon Hayward

580
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 3: one was out there, and it's always fun to watch

581
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 3: a player after their name is in a trade talk,

582
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Speaker 3: but then they still remain with the team. How they

583
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 3: take that right lately, like it could be you know,

584
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 3: you know, good or bad. I could see both ways

585
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 3: where a guy either checks out because like, well you

586
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 3: don't even want me here, just get rid of me

587
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 3: and sort of like you know, Lulli gags through games,

588
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 3: or it's like it's a fire under a guy, which

589
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: I think could be in play with Turner. They still

590
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: have a great team, right, I mean, there's a there's

591
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 3: a fit problem with Turner and Sabona's trying to play

592
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 3: those guys at the same time. But then you still

593
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 3: have all Adepo, who wants to get peed again. So

594
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: he might have a pretty impressive year if he can

595
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Speaker 3: come back from injury even ninety percent.

596
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Speaker 4: There's bragged in.

597
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a solid team with the new

598
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 3: neat in there.

599
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Speaker 1: What do you think? Yeah? It is? And I think

600
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: that's what like kind of what Trey was saying there.

601
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: They're going to make the playoffs. They'll probably be a

602
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 1: tough first round out, but that's about their ceiling as

603
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: they are today. And you just wonder with Turner. He's

604
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Speaker 1: a very good player at times, but also he's not

605
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: very good at times as well. And that's why I

606
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: wonder what his trade value is because you know, we've

607
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,239
Speaker 1: seen him have some highlight reel plays. He can hit

608
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: the three pointer, but there's also times, and I pointed

609
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: out this out a lot in the bubble, he just

610
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: got shredded on defense and that's really where he makes

611
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,239
Speaker 1: his money because I remember he thought he was going

612
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: to be Defensive Player of the Year a couple of

613
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: years ago and didn't even make all defensive teams. So,

614
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Speaker 1: you know what, he's athletic, he's long, he can spread

615
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 1: the floor, but you just wonder how valuable really he is.

616
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Speaker 1: But maybe again that's one of those things. It's like

617
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: a maturity thing maybe now that he's he's seeing that

618
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Speaker 1: like there's some interest there out there in him and

619
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Speaker 1: he wants to really try to live up to that

620
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: contract that he signed and he wants to go out

621
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: there and perform because I think he's going to have

622
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: the right opportunity there in Indiana to play hard, to

623
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Speaker 1: play on that team. He's a big part of their

624
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: team right now. So maybe it's just one of those things.

625
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: A couple more years, a little bit more experienced, he

626
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: will be better. But because he's got the talent, it's

627
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: just it's just being the consistency really, And this is

628
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: the same with Oladipo. I think he's an interesting guy

629
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: on the market because he's coming off such a severe

630
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 1: injury and he had one really good season. But was

631
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: that the anomaly? Was Victor Oladipo close to that All

632
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 1: Star season or was he more like a guy who

633
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: just had one really good season. But he's actually kind

634
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: of middle of the pack sort of guard anyway, you know,

635
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: And we don't really know until we see a full

636
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: season off him playing because he came back, of course,

637
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: just before the lockdown or the shutdown this year and

638
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 1: then down to the bubble he was he was, okay,

639
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: so not sure. I'm not sure with the Pacers, but again,

640
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: they're just they're not going to be a pushover. They're

641
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: not going to drop off completely. They're just going to

642
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: be in the middle of that pack somewhere again.

643
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Speaker 3: Right, Well, that's why I think it's a fun question

644
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Speaker 3: with the East said, and I think task you said

645
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Speaker 3: it on one of our previous podcasts that you're more

646
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 3: intrigued by the Eastern Conference in a weird way than

647
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: the Western Conference because you do have those six teams

648
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: like the Bucks, the Heat, the Celtics, the Nets, the Raptors,

649
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: and the Sixers, and some people might include the Pacers too,

650
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 3: so it might be seven. But it's like, who do

651
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 3: you have in the top four of those six because

652
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 3: I think it's really telling who you leave out and why,

653
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 3: especially again if you just drop Indiana out of this

654
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 3: conversation of those six teams. I just said, like, who

655
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 3: are the two that you don't have a ton a

656
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 3: ton of faith in? I don't know, So let's hear

657
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 3: from you guys, both in the stream team and tweet

658
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 3: at us at no Dunks, inc. All Right, our next

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Speaker 3: question Oh, I love this question. Who's going to be

660
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 3: selected to their first All Star Game? Now there's gonna

661
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 3: be no actual All Star game, but we think they'll

662
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 3: name the All Stars because content is king baby, So

663
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 3: why wouldn't you Lee get us started. Who's the guy

664
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 3: that's never made the big game? We'll at least get

665
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 3: selected to it here in twenty twenty one.

666
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 1: Eventually, I talked a lot about him yesterday. I think

667
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: it's Jamal Murray. I think it has to be him.

668
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he was a superstar down there in the bubble.

669
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: He was fantastic, twenty six points a game, forty five

670
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: percent from downtown and just some of those magical moments

671
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: carried his team to the conference finals along with Nikola

672
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,239
Speaker 1: Jokic there, but he really stepped up. And if he

673
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: doesn't make the All Star team this year, I'm going

674
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: to be very disappointed because he's a super talented player.

675
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: He's got a little bit of swagger about him, a

676
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: little bit of cockiness out there. I think he can

677
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: get under the skin of his opponents, but he absolutely

678
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: can perform too. He's not afraid of the big moment.

679
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: Apparently his dad really got into meditate a lot when

680
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: he was a kid, and so that helps him in

681
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: those moments, in those clutch moments, he can really stay there.

682
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's great. He's got a huge a future

683
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: there in Denver. They gave him the huge contract last season,

684
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: and he started off a little bit slow, but once

685
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: he got it together, he's fantastic, fun to watch, a

686
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: great player. And I really really think this year he's

687
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: almost a lot to make the All Star Team because

688
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: I think someone like Chris Paul, who made it last year,

689
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: probably doesn't make it this year. You know. I think

690
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: in Phoenix, I mean, Booker made it of course last

691
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: year as an injury replacement, but if if Chris Paul

692
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: made it this year and Devin Booker didn't, that would

693
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: be bad for the Phoenix Suns. I think, you know,

694
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: you know, they need and DeAndre Ayton would be another

695
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: one that they want to make the All Star team.

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Speaker 1: So I think there's a little spot there. But I

697
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Speaker 1: also just think Jamal Murray is gonna gonna knock that

698
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Speaker 1: barn door down and force his way onto that All

699
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Speaker 1: Star team anyway regardless, So I hope it happens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he said his dad had him doing a lot

701
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Speaker 3: of meditation and his kid. I think his dad had

702
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Speaker 3: him like shooting free throws in the snow. And also

703
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Speaker 3: I just saw through an Instagram clip apparently when he

704
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Speaker 3: was young, his dad made him do like wall sits, right,

705
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Speaker 3: like the classic wall sit, or your back's against the

706
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Speaker 3: wall and you got your knees bent. You got to

707
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Speaker 3: hold it. You know, you're working on your core and

708
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Speaker 3: your quads. But he made him put like a hot

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Speaker 3: cup of.

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Speaker 4: Tea on his knee.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so of course he had to keep it,

712
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Speaker 3: keep it stable. There he's dropping hot tea all over

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Speaker 3: his knee.

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Speaker 1: That's dangerous.

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Speaker 3: Each is a nice bar, actually, I think about hot

716
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Speaker 3: tea on the knee. So yeah, and I guess he

717
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 3: was known as Glitch too. He had an old nickname

718
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: called Glitch, which obviously fell off because we don't call

719
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Speaker 3: him that at all.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, I don't I don't.

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Speaker 4: Actually want a nice one. It's a little weird one.

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Speaker 2: But when he had that tea on his knee, yeah, yeah.

723
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Speaker 3: Luckily, I actually had a trivia question for you guys

724
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: before we got to the answers, but we already got

725
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Speaker 3: Jamal Murray. I figured you were going to go with

726
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 3: him there, Lee. Last year we had ten first time

727
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Speaker 3: All Stars guys. Can you name all ten? But can

728
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Speaker 3: you do it collectively as a group? You want to

729
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Speaker 3: have a go at it, Lee, you want to give

730
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Speaker 3: it a start. Don't look it up by the way,

731
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Speaker 3: I see you looking at your computer pretty intently.

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Speaker 1: There no no, no tabs opened today. I'll say Devin

733
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Speaker 1: Booker because he was a knee interests. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

734
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Speaker 1: Then Task, we'll go around here. See you name them

735
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Speaker 1: Luca yep, Trey Young, Trey Young, correct, Lee back the

736
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Speaker 1: Jayson Titum correct.

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Speaker 2: Task, Donovan Mitchell, Yes, Rudy Gobert.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Lely. Your kitchen was one of the year

739
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Speaker 1: before I got a branded brandon Ingram.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you've got all the Western Conference guys. Task back

741
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 3: to you. There's three East guys left. Yes, come on,

742
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 3: Trey uh uh. Talked about one of the oh bam,

743
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: wasn't even what I was thinking of. And Lee take

744
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 3: us home final one. We were just talking about his team.

745
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 3: Can you work with another guy? Middle was awesome? Sadly, Oh,

746
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 3: thanks for playing?

747
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: He didn't or did he play?

748
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

749
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: He did play? Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he got some rebounds. Yes, first time All Star?

751
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: Who do you got?

752
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 4: Actually?

753
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 3: I want The reason I brought that up is because

754
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: it may be difficult to have a lot of first

755
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 3: time All Stars because you got that many last year.

756
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 3: A lot of those guys we just mentioned, I think

757
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 3: are going to be in play to make it again.

758
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: Maybe not all of them, but like seven or eight

759
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Speaker 3: of them at least, So it might be more different

760
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Speaker 3: called task to find a first time All Star.

761
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Speaker 1: Who do you go with?

762
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the younger guys have already started taking hold of

763
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: the All Star game, That's totally true. In the West there,

764
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Speaker 2: I think Jamal Murray, Yeah, we'll sneak in. The West

765
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: Guards has been the most clogged spot for years with

766
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,959
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook and James Harden. But now Westbrook goes east.

767
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 2: Who knows what happens with Harden. Chris Paul I think

768
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: does lose his spot because Phoenix is only going to

769
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Speaker 2: have one. It's probably going to go to Devin Booker.

770
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Speaker 2: So I think Jamal Murray can jump in there will

771
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: there be another spot for a West Guard? Probably Steph

772
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: actually comes back in grad Schef, So I think Jamal

773
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: Murray number one. But I think there is a chance

774
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: for Drew Holliday to sneak in there in the Eastern Conference.

775
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: I know he's not his first time, but I'm just

776
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: thinking guys that haven't been there forever he got there.

777
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: I guess it would be probably seven years in between

778
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: his All Star appearances when his first one with the

779
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 2: Sixers and fourteen I think it was, or was it thirteen,

780
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: not sure, but anyway, I think he can sneak in

781
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: there because it's always with the Bucks that they're the

782
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: number one seed. Yeah, and it will be there. Chris

783
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: Milton be there. Do you give it to Eric Bledsoe, Well,

784
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: Eric Bledsoe's gone. Drew Holiday could probably take that spot.

785
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: So maybe he jumps back in there, and it sure

786
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: seems like he's a first time All Star because no

787
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: one ever remembers he's an All Star. We always say, oh,

788
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: they're trading this all Star. They're trading Chris Cayman. He

789
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: made an All Star game. People don't even say that

790
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: about Drew Holiday because they just forget that Drew Holiday

791
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 2: was sort of you know, he was on the periphery

792
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 2: of being a star and then got traded for Nerlans

793
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 2: Noel and then things got happened and there, So that

794
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 2: was a weird situation. But he can be that guy

795
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 2: for sure. He's in that perfect spot to be the

796
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: secondary or tersiary ball handler there in Milwaukee.

797
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Speaker 3: Yeah, last time he was in the Eastern Conference, he

798
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 3: was making an All Star Game, so he was thinking here.

799
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, not technically a first time All Star. But

800
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Speaker 3: I do wonder's a question for Schumann if he's over here.

801
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: I wonder what the biggest gap is between making an

802
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 3: All Star team and then not making it till you

803
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: know another one, Like, what's the biggest window there is?

804
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:03,959
Speaker 1: It's seven years.

805
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: It's a pretty this would be eight years. Actually it

806
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: was thirteen.

807
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: Okay. I Mono had a bit of a break between

808
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: his two, but I don't think it was that Long's.

809
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 3: It's quite big. So there's a fun question for somebody

810
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 3: to figure out out there. Okay, so yeah, cheating a

811
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: little bit, but he goes back to Drew Hollidy maybe

812
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 3: sneaking in there. We've got Jamal Murray, anyone else, Trey.

813
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, another Eastern Conference guy. You mentioned Lee how Kemba

814
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 4: Walker's already out until January. I think the Celtics look

815
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 4: like a little bit of a thin team, and I

816
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 4: think they're going to need a lot from Jalen Brown,

817
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 4: and I think he is capable of improving. He's a

818
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 4: great transition player, great defensive player. He can knock down

819
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 4: and open three. The Celtics are going to need him

820
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 4: to put the ball on the floor and makes him plays,

821
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 4: especially while Kemba is missing some time. Jalen Brown has

822
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 4: not yet made an All Star team. Lee had him

823
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 4: on his reserve picks last season, but it hasn't made

824
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 4: it yet. I think he could certainly be knocking on

825
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 4: the door in the Eastern Conference, especially if Kemba's injury

826
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 4: keeps it. Even if he returns, if he's a little

827
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 4: bit slowed up once he comes back, They're gonna need

828
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 4: some more from somebody on the perimeter, and that to

829
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 4: me is Jalen Brown. Tatum will be there, no doubt

830
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 4: about it. The Celtics should still be a pretty solid

831
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 4: regular season team. They'll probably get two All Stars once again,

832
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 4: so I think Jalen would be that guy.

833
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have him on my short list as well.

834
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 3: I also forgot that Kemba Walker started the All Star

835
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 3: Game last year for the Celtics, so yeah, if with

836
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 3: him out with an injury. That makes sense because we

837
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 3: were debating, Yeah, is it Jalen or is it Tatum?

838
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 3: If you were just taking one last year so you

839
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 3: could see him growing into that might as well play. Hey,

840
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: what about this guy a little bit here? Because I

841
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 3: got I got a you know, a short list here.

842
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 3: Jamal Murray was on it. Jalen Brown, what about John Morant?

843
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: I think it's in play if the Grizzlies are winning

844
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 3: some games. I think he's obviously the star player on

845
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 3: that team. And I think here, you're right, it's not

846
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 3: easy for guards in the Western Conference to get in there,

847
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: but I think he could crack it. What were you

848
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: about to say.

849
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: The early Well, it's a sign. With Zion, I think

850
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: they both potentially can do it. But they I mean,

851
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: you know, Luca and Trey made it in their second year,

852
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: so it's not just that they just save them for

853
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: the rookie sophomore event so you can make it. It

854
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: just sort of feels like Moran he will be good.

855
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: Just how many wins will the Grizzlies get it? And again,

856
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: just the depth in that Western Conference, And that's the

857
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: same thing with Zion. I think it might be just

858
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 1: a little tough for him to get in this season.

859
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean if those guys, I mean, if

860
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: Zion's putting up twenty and ten, you know, which is possible,

861
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: then he's going to be hard to keep out of

862
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: the game. I'm just not sure what Morant's sort of

863
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: best numbers are going to be there out in Memphis,

864
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: and again whether or not he can just sort of

865
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: some of those older veteran guys. Again, you mentioned, you know,

866
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: like Steph coming back. You figure he's probably going to

867
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: be in there, so it might be a little tough

868
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 1: for him, but just a matter of time. I found

869
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: something on Reddit here about the longest gap between All Stars.

870
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: Drew Holiday definitely would would win that if he does

871
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: get selected. Because of Frank Selvy apparently in nineteen fifty

872
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: five and then nineteen sixty two. I remember it, yes,

873
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: because there was talk, Yes, there was talk about Derek Rose.

874
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 2: Remember he was you're going to say, there's talk about

875
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: it another All Star in nineteen sixty two. He was

876
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: going to make it, but Frank Selvy came.

877
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: In and stole Well the thing is the thing. It

878
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: was brought up because Derek Rose, I think was in

879
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: contention last year. In some paper's mind, it would have

880
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: they for him since he's lost a little star appearance.

881
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, Drew would Drew would Drew would absolutely have

882
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: the record.

883
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to do footing again for the All

884
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 4: Star Game this year. You would think so. But the

885
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 4: argument is always it's a game for fans. Let them

886
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 4: vote on it. Ain't no game this year, ain't no

887
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 4: injury replacements this year. We're not going to be getting

888
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 4: as many All Stars. There's usually one or two extra

889
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 4: that you're throwing into the mix. But if fans are voting,

890
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 4: that helps Zion, Right, he could still start the All

891
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 4: Star Game. I don't think that's out of the realm

892
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 4: of possibility. And if that's the case, maybe we don't

893
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 4: see Brandon Ingram back again.

894
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, that's true, and other guards in the West.

895
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 3: I mean, we talked about if Shake Gildess Alexander is

896
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 3: averaging twenty five and five, that he could maybe walk

897
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: in there. Yeah, he would be a lock in that case.

898
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 3: I think if the Blazers play as well as I

899
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: have them playing, I mean, I think they're gonna be

900
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 3: knocking on a top three seed there.

901
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 4: I think CJ.

902
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: McCollum at that point would get some consideration, possibly with

903
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 3: Lillard Darren Fox. It's gonna be tough for him. I mean,

904
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: the Kings would have to really impress right out of

905
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 3: the gate for him to crack it. And the only

906
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: other guy I have I have Fred van Vliet task

907
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: is that insane like it is. Can you picture a

908
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 3: scenario where Van Vleet puts up the numbers in the raps,

909
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 3: you know, maybe our a top four team by the

910
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 3: All Star break that he could get in there.

911
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he would take Kyle Lowry spot. Kyle

912
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 2: Lowry was an All Star last year, so Pascal would

913
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: be the first guy, but Lowry was there for his

914
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 2: sixth All Star appearances. Lowry done with All Star appearances

915
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: would be sad, be sad, but yeah, he was a

916
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: guy who had actually looking at it. The most All

917
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: Star appearances in the Eastern Conference last year when he

918
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 2: was there. But the Eastern guard spot is the soft spot.

919
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: Trey brought up Kemba or Kemby Young. I combined Trey

920
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: Young and Kemba Walker, Kimba Walker potentially being injured him

921
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: and Trey Young started last year, so Trey Young would

922
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: probably be there, but Kyle Lowry spot it'd be up

923
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: for grabs there, So yeah, totally. I could see Freddy

924
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: getting in there or Drew Holiday getting in there.

925
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 3: Maybe it Brogden. I guess he was sort of in

926
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 3: contention last year. We were throwing his name around with

927
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: how well the play pacers were playing. A gat Oladipo

928
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 3: will be back in the mix if he.

929
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: Plays up to his k Yeah.

930
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 4: That's old timey guys actually in the Eastern Conference that

931
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 4: are going to be trying to get in the All

932
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 4: Star Game. Kyrie Irving, you think we'll probably be in

933
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 4: the mix for an All Star spot as well. Brad Beal,

934
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 4: Russell Westbrook, Gordon Hayward, Blake Griffin could make an All

935
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 4: Star team. These are guys that made like a million

936
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 4: All Star teams. It feels like we're in the twenty

937
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 4: tens again in the Eastern Conference. But they're good. Russell

938
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 4: Westbrook is good. Remember when he was an All Star

939
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 4: and All NBA last year. He'll probably make it this Nay, Yeah, yeah,

940
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 4: I forgot about him.

941
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 3: Let's hear from you guys. That's a fun question. Anyone

942
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: were missing out there first time All Stars? All right?

943
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: Let us know in the stream team and on Twitter

944
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 3: at No Dunk Sink. Okay, next one, must watch League

945
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 3: Past team. Who are you telling the people out there

946
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 3: that are joining us, We're listening to the pod.

947
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: They gotta be watching on.

948
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 3: League Past this year at Trey, Who are you excited about?

949
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 4: There's a lot of teams I'm excited about. It feels

950
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 4: like we've got a lot of change, especially in the

951
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 4: Eastern Conference. That's why we're talking about all these top four,

952
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 4: top five, top six teams. They are all good teams,

953
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 4: but for the most part, something major has changed with

954
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 4: all of them. That's gonna be exciting to watch. But

955
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 4: you can't be picking a national TV team, no doubt

956
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 4: about that. And I don't want to give you a

957
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 4: bad recommendation. The Hornets are gonna be fun to watch.

958
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 4: The Wizards are gonna be fun to watch, but good

959
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 4: luck sustaining interest in both of those teams for an

960
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 4: entire season. Every year I'm like, Okay, this is the

961
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 4: year I'm watching the Wizards, and then it ain't the

962
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 4: year I'm watching the Wizards. I also gotta throw out

963
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 4: the Hawks. They're are local team technically not on League

964
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 4: Pass here in Atlanta, we gotta be watching on Fox

965
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 4: Sports Southeast. You gotta figure out which Fox Sports app

966
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 4: you're downloading. It's a little confusing, to be honest. So

967
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 4: my final choice the Grizzlies. They're in this sweet spot

968
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 4: of exciting, competitive and not on TV. They've only got

969
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 4: three national television games. We've already seen John Morant dunking

970
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 4: on people in the preseason with his little ponytail. Apparently

971
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 4: Jaren Jackson Junior grew two to three inches. Brandon Clark

972
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 4: a dunk machine. And here's the best part, they're still

973
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 4: slow playing things. They basically brought their team back, added

974
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 4: a couple of highly rated role player rookies. Justice Winslows

975
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 4: would be a little bit more healthy. You get to

976
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 4: ride that development wave. You're buying your Grizzly stock early

977
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 4: and it's gonna pay off down the line. They are

978
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 4: gonna be at the very least in the play in tournament.

979
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,439
Speaker 4: They're be challenging for a playoff spot you would think,

980
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 4: and they're gonna be fun to watch. It's always great

981
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 4: to watch a young team that is on the rise

982
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 4: before they finally hit that spot where there's real expectations.

983
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 4: That is the sweet spot. To be living in give

984
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 4: me degrees.

985
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have the Grizzlies as well, obviously led by

986
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 3: John Morant, but also great set of jerseys, nice aesthetics.

987
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 3: I like their looks with a lot of their like

988
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 3: City edition and even their earned leaked jerseys coming out

989
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 3: here now. And I love watching Dylan Brooks take shots.

990
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 3: He shouldn't always fun, always a blast because that guy's

991
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: got a lot of confidence so he can catch fire too,

992
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 3: so it's actually it can be a blast. So I

993
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: got the Grizzlies because they're only on those ABC, ESPNS

994
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 3: or TNTs. Yeah, just three times. There's seven teams without

995
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 3: a nationally televised game Lely Caz King's Magic, Piston, Spurs, Thunder,

996
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 3: and Wizards, which is interesting. I actually love this that

997
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 3: we only have this first half of the schedule because

998
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 3: I saw I forget who it was, I don't know

999
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 3: if it was Ziller or somebody else pointed out that

1000
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 3: it's sort of cool. It's almost like you wish they

1001
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 3: could do it every year because you see what happens

1002
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: in the first half of the year, right, and then

1003
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: when you're building the second half of the schedule, Oh,

1004
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 3: that team's suddenly amazing or that team oh bad injuries,

1005
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 3: they're no longer interesting, and you could sort of flex

1006
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 3: them out in a second half of nationally televised games.

1007
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 3: In theory, that's sort of cool. It could happen, like

1008
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 3: we could see a bunch of Wizards games. If Westbrook

1009
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 3: and Bual, you know, have them playing fun basketball, competitive basketball,

1010
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: maybe they're on a couple of these national broadcasts later.

1011
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,479
Speaker 3: But do you have as watch must watch the pass

1012
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 3: at least early.

1013
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: On, Well, for me, it's go. I'm going with the

1014
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: Denver Nuggets. I always fall in love with the Nuggets

1015
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: before the start of each season because, first off, Jokicha Murray,

1016
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch those guys. But you can't

1017
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: tell me you're not excited to watch Bun Kambasa and

1018
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 1: ball a Ball out there on the court together. Honestly,

1019
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 1: I think I mean Bob boll We didn't really see

1020
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: much of him in the bubble in the playoffs, but

1021
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: in the regular season he had a couple of really,

1022
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: really fun moments, and I think the Nuggets are going

1023
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: to try to incorporate him into that team for some

1024
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: plays out there, So I think he's going to be

1025
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: great to watch and Compasso's already had a couple of

1026
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: those little teasers of his passes. He hasn't had that

1027
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: real classic like that, the TiO Doosich one that we

1028
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: saw going around just a couple of weeks ago. But

1029
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: you're going to see some fantastic plays from Campaso. So

1030
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: the Nuggets for me, I really like this team, but

1031
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: they have so much fun to watch. And of course Ki,

1032
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: you know, Jokich looks like he looks like a guy

1033
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: who just sort of is playing basketball because he has

1034
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: to be. He doesn't look like he's out there having,

1035
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, loving the game, but he just goes out

1036
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: there and plays his own style, of his own way.

1037
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: But it's so much fun. He's so created, and he's

1038
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: also going to have some of those just incredible passes

1039
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: that he makes, and he's going to hit some of

1040
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: those that what do we call it, Dirk Dirk in

1041
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: the driveway that driveway dad driver, Dad's yeah, Yeah, he's

1042
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: going to hit a few of those game winners where

1043
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: you're just like, how on earth does this shot go in?

1044
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: You know, there'll be a defender draped all over him

1045
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: and he'll somehow just fall away and knock it. In

1046
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: and it's great. So yeah, give me the Nuggets. I

1047
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: think they're a really fun team to watch.

1048
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 3: Nuggets only have six nationally televised games here in the

1049
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 3: first half of the schedule on the Big Network, so

1050
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 3: not a ton Who do you got tasks?

1051
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's surprising, especially with the way they played in

1052
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: the bubble. They were really really exciting. And now Michael

1053
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: Porter Junior is going to become part of their starting

1054
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 2: lineup most likely and be out there. I love watching him,

1055
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 2: so yeah, I'm going to be mesmerized by him. There's

1056
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: just you know, three different styles on that team. Smooth

1057
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: Michael Porter, Jamal Murray, who is you know, the superstar,

1058
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: you know, your typical pull up, and then Yokicho's just

1059
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 2: the most unique player in the league. Just asp and

1060
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: passes to those two dudes. That's gonna be a fun

1061
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: starting lineup. And yeah, I'm in on Campaso as well.

1062
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: This I'm picking differently this year because I think there's

1063
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: a lot of teams that are to have a you know,

1064
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 2: just our generating excitement and are trying to win. So

1065
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be pumped to watch a lot of teams

1066
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 2: in the NBA. But I don't like the fact that

1067
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 2: there aren't fans for these games. It's a lot different

1068
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: than the Bubble, where the Bubble was set up like

1069
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: a TV studio so you couldn't see the fans or

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00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: you couldn't see empty seats. I should say, so I'm

1071
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 2: going to be distracted by the floor. I think the

1072
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 2: floor aesthetics are very, very important. And so I'm cheating

1073
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: with the Brooklyn Nets because the Brooklyn Nets floor is

1074
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: always mesmerizing. It's always kind of like, do I like this?

1075
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: Do I hate it? I just can't stop staring at

1076
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 2: it because I don't want to be distracted by those

1077
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: empty seats. So, yeah, the Nets are probably on TV

1078
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: a lot. You don't have to go searching for Fox

1079
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: Sports Southwestern, Fox Sports Southeast to find them. They're just

1080
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: gonna be on television and they're gonna be a heck

1081
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 2: of a story. They're gonna be a movie out there.

1082
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: The floor looks like a movie. Kyrie Irving is the villain.

1083
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant all of a sudden is the saint because

1084
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,479
Speaker 2: he's playing with Kyrie. The Nash Factor. It's a yeah,

1085
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: it's gonna be I think the most intriguing storyline with

1086
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: all those coaches. Even I'm excited to watch Mike d'antni's

1087
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: disposition on the bench. I think there's just a bunch

1088
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 2: of really good storylines there. And yeah, I'm a little

1089
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: bit worried about I hate empty stadiums, just hate it.

1090
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: And basketball it kind of you just feel it. You

1091
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: feel it because the seats can't you can't escape them

1092
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: unless you block them off like they did in the Bubble. Right.

1093
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 3: Well, some arenas seem to be doing that or they're

1094
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 3: handling it different, at least in the preseason games i've caught.

1095
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 3: I thought there would be sort of a universal mandate

1096
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 3: from the league if I'm being honest, like, hey, here

1097
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 3: is how you should set up your arena for broadcasting

1098
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 3: games like this will be the best look. But it

1099
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 3: doesn't appear to be one because some I think the Sixers,

1100
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 3: like they had the tarp over the seats right like

1101
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 3: in Lower Bowl, the big logo. There's been other ones

1102
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 3: where there is more of like a something in the way,

1103
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 3: like like a board of some sort or a partition

1104
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 3: at least, and there's others that's just like, yeah, nothing

1105
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 3: that I can tell. It's just like completely empty. The heat.

1106
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 3: I saw at a bunch of Gatorades coolers on their

1107
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 3: on their bench, Like, is it in you really pushing

1108
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 3: the gatorade on us there? Yeah, I wish there was

1109
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 3: some sort of like just dark in the arena. Do

1110
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 3: what obviously the Nets and the Lakers do and stuff

1111
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 3: like that. Lean everybody should lean into that if they could.

1112
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 3: I mean, I know, like that's got to be all

1113
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 3: set up for lighting and stuff like that. JD. You

1114
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 3: can probably speak to that better than I can. But yeah, yeah,

1115
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 3: this this cavernous arenas is not It's not a fun

1116
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 3: viewing experience so far for me in some of these arenas,

1117
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 3: Like I missed the bubble. I couldn't believe I was

1118
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,479
Speaker 3: saying that. I was like, oh man, I missed those

1119
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 3: crappy virtual fans. But whatever, we're still getting basketball. I

1120
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 3: don't know, do you have an opinion on that, le

1121
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 3: what they should be doing or I don't know how

1122
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 3: much preseason action you want?

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Speaker 1: Not much. I had tough to watch the old preseas.

1124
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 1: It's too long. It's still too long. Two games playing

1125
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 1: two games. Two games is all you need, man, just start,

1126
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: get start again, because seriously, half the players don't even

1127
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: play these games. The game, they play half the game

1128
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: and then they said, I mean Westbrook and Beale sat

1129
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: out the first game. They didn't even play the first one.

1130
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: So look two games and then just start the other way.

1131
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: Just start the regular season. That's all you need because

1132
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: it's just hard to watch. You can't take anything seriously

1133
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: out of it. Of course it's great when you see

1134
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: jar Moran do his thing, but it just like, just

1135
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: start the games. Let's go for it. Anyway. Yeah, the noise,

1136
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: it's it's weird. It's weird because it's just it's so inconsistent.

1137
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't know what you do. You don't

1138
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: want an empty arena, but I don't know how you

1139
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: change the noise. I don't know what I think. Down

1140
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: in Tampa, if I if I'm not mistaken, the Raptors

1141
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: are actually going to have some fans in their arena.

1142
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: I saw something yesterday on Twitter. They're going to sell

1143
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: a couple of fans with a couple of seats.

1144
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 3: Think there's five or six actually arenas that are right

1145
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,959
Speaker 3: now will allow to let some fans into the into

1146
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 3: their stadiums or into.

1147
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 2: Their no rules in Florida, Orlando's having fans. Tampa's having fans.

1148
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: I know, I know for example, in Europe in soccer,

1149
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: they've allowed some fans in a small, big, a small

1150
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: amount of fans where at a Liverpool game last weekend

1151
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: and everyone said, even though it was only two thousand fans,

1152
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: it made a huge difference just having real people. They're

1153
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: cheering more so than any canned noise. So, I mean,

1154
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: if it's safe, I think, okay, it's fine. But yeah,

1155
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 1: this country hasn't handled the coronavirus as well as some others,

1156
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: so I'm not sure if it is the safest, but

1157
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see how it goes.

1158
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 3: So you're more concerned about the audio element than maybe

1159
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 3: even the visuals, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Trey, any

1160
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 3: opinion on that. I know you've watched a little bit.

1161
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 3: What have you thought about that experience with I mean, again,

1162
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 3: just straight up empty seats, so you can't hide them.

1163
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 3: Really in a broadcast, you.

1164
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 4: Can't hide them. And it's similar to watching baseball during

1165
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 4: the playoffs, and you know, they put out the cardboard

1166
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 4: cutouts of all the fans that would submit their pictures,

1167
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 4: but there's still a whole bunch of empty seats and

1168
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 4: it just looks odd, you know. I'd rather see them

1169
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 4: block off the seats like you've seen, and like you mentioned,

1170
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 4: skeets in some places, with a tarp or some sort

1171
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 4: of designed thing. It also takes you back to the

1172
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 4: high school basketball days when somebody would get really pissed

1173
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 4: and just chuck a basketball against the curtain that separates

1174
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 4: the gym. Maybe we could see that in the NBA.

1175
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 4: You know, I'm always happy to go on a little

1176
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 4: nostalgia trip some things from my childhood. So yeah, if

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00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 4: I see I don't know, Jamal Murray, he's a basketball

1178
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 4: chucker at one point, right, I'd love to see him

1179
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 4: haul off and just blang it into a curtain or

1180
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 4: something along those lines. The sound is always going to

1181
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 4: be weird. But the sound is going to be weird.

1182
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 4: There's no way to get around it. If there aren't people,

1183
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 4: they're actually screaming and growing crazy. But the visuals you

1184
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 4: can do something a little bit with. Block off those seats,

1185
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 4: all right.

1186
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,959
Speaker 3: Our next question here burning questions our season preview podcasts task.

1187
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 3: We'll go to you first. We'll get you in trouble first.

1188
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 3: Who's going to be the most boring team in the league?

1189
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: Who a you going with?

1190
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to New York Knicks. Now. It's a funny

1191
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: thing because boring is the term here. I think if

1192
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 2: you like bad basketball, they could be hilariously bad and

1193
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 2: it could be entertaining in that way. I think they're

1194
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 2: going to be the worst team. I think if you

1195
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: look at the over under totals, it's the Pistons, Calves

1196
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 2: and Knicks that are sort of towards the bottom of

1197
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 2: everyone's projections and how many wins they're going to get.

1198
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 2: But I think the Pistons, I've watched some preseason I

1199
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 2: think there are some bright spots there. Even Blake Griffin's

1200
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: looking good. They've got some young guys and Seku that

1201
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: can you titillate a little bit. I think even the

1202
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: Calves have some storylines at least to watch for in

1203
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 2: a Cooro and some others. But the Knicks, I don't

1204
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 2: think there's any chance they're going to win games. I

1205
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 2: like Mitchell Robinson, I like Obi Toppin, but they have RJ.

1206
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: Barrett as their number one guy, as their star. He's

1207
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: a driver, that's what he does. He tries to get

1208
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: to the rim. But they have absolutely no shooting around him,

1209
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 2: and he really struggled at finishing around the rim last year.

1210
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: So I think it's just going to be bad basketball.

1211
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: And I have watched preseason Knicks basketball, and if it's

1212
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: any indication of what's going to happen in the regular season,

1213
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: it ain't good. At the bottom of the East, there

1214
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 2: is the scariest part, and I think the Knicks are

1215
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 2: the scariest of the scary. I think that the NBA

1216
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: is in good shape with a lot of the franchises

1217
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 2: going for the playoffs, and I think the Knicks are

1218
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: doing the smart thing and not trying to buy themselves

1219
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 2: a buy in or a ticket to the play in tournament.

1220
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: They kept cool, They kept it cool. They signed Austin

1221
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: Rivers and Alec Burks to be their shooters around RJ Barrett.

1222
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: But I just don't think that's a good sign for RJ. Barrett.

1223
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 2: Number One, Tom Thibodeau is a guy who wants to win.

1224
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 2: He's got Mitchell Robinson coming off the bench for now,

1225
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 2: which isn't a good look in my opinion. So I

1226
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 2: don't know what the heck is going to happen there

1227
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 2: in New York. And I think even in being in Madison,

1228
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 2: Square Garden, which is usually a fun place to watch

1229
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 2: a game. From this character set of your your pants there,

1230
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be fun. It makes it worse that

1231
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 2: it's in such a storied arena, such a beautiful place

1232
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: to watch basketball. Just to see the ugliness that's going

1233
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 2: to happen there, I just I just don't see it

1234
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: coming together. They're so young, and in every there are

1235
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 2: so many good teams that they have to play. I

1236
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 2: don't think it's going to be good.

1237
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 3: Well, do you feel personally attacked with what?

1238
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: No? I tried to sort of jump on the Knicks

1239
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: are was it two years ago? I think I started it.

1240
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: It's been tough, man. I can't imagine what it must

1241
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 1: be like if you're a Knicks fan for the last

1242
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: twenty years. I guess it hasn't been that bad for

1243
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 1: twenty years. But yes, well they made the play. I melo,

1244
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 1: it was so it's bad.

1245
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you're embellishing when you think about.

1246
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: The nineties Knicks. You know, tough, fun, well coached characters

1247
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: on that name over two decades. I know what I'm

1248
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: saying is like when you think about it's like that

1249
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: that was the building you know, that's where you knew

1250
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: you were going to face a tough team and a

1251
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: tough place.

1252
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's how sad it is. That's where remainders

1253
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 3: immediately to the nineties.

1254
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: I know, to the nineties. I know it's it's tough,

1255
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: but I mean, yeah, for me, it's it's gonna be

1256
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: the Calves. They're like, it's gonna be tough. They're there,

1257
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: I think, so boring. It's like it could be Calves

1258
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: versus the Mavericks, you know, one of the teams I

1259
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: love to watch with Luca and even that would be like, oh, okay, okay,

1260
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: because when you look at the Cavs roster, I mean,

1261
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: who you know. Their star player, I guess is Drummond

1262
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: h And he's just not an exciting guy to watch.

1263
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: He's a good player, you know, he's a he's a

1264
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: rebound machine and he gets those dunk So he was

1265
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: shooting threes the other day. I saw that. Yeah, I

1266
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: think he's done that in the past. Again, I think

1267
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: it's one of those early season things. You know, guy

1268
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: fires away and then he's like a buzzer beating. Yeah,

1269
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 1: but it's just it's like, yeah, there's just no there's

1270
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: no real appeal because that team is not you know again,

1271
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: Drummond is not a part of their future.

1272
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 3: You know, say Colin Sexton is their star. There are

1273
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 3: a banking line hopefully him the star.

1274
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he he doesn't have that league past appealed either,

1275
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: does it? Like you, I can't see him. I mean

1276
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 1: maybe maybe like a forty or fifty point game, because

1277
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: remember Kyrie after Lebron left. Kyrie had a couple of

1278
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: those really big moments. I mean he was a number

1279
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: one pick, slightly different, But I don't see that in

1280
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: Sexton or Garland or anyone there. Dell he's back there,

1281
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: which is great. On makers there as well, which is great.

1282
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: A couple of Ozzies there.

1283
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 2: But alert Matthew on the floor.

1284
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: But see but but you know, like talking about the

1285
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: Grizzlies for example, like Ja Morant is must watch automatic. Yeah,

1286
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who you're seeing. Who is that on

1287
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: the cave exactly?

1288
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 3: Not drum And it's probably not love And and you're

1289
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 3: skeptical at Sexton or Garlin or you know, Porter or something.

1290
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, because those even if a team loses by twenty,

1291
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: if a guy's going out there making crazy plays, and

1292
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: highlight real dunks. You can watch it still, you know,

1293
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: because you're like, oh my god, this is incredible.

1294
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 3: But you might get a full court pass from Kevin Love.

1295
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Yeah.

1296
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 4: Let's be honest. The only reason you're watching the Cabs

1297
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 4: is if you're like rebound highlights. I do the league

1298
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 4: past team the year, Rowland, Larry Nance, Andre Drummond, and

1299
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 4: Kevin Love out there as a starting lineup rebounds the

1300
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 4: lower I thought you were going to say the only

1301
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 4: reason to watch the Calves is because they start at

1302
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 4: seven o'clock.

1303
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 2: Wow.

1304
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they're one of the first teams on. I'm okay,

1305
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 3: I'll watch the first eight minutes of this game. Yeah,

1306
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 3: I have the Calves too.

1307
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 2: Lely.

1308
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 3: I was trying to play Devil's advocate a little bit there,

1309
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 3: but I mean they're bad both offensively and defensively, so

1310
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 3: they don't do anything all that well and they're just young.

1311
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 3: And you know what, this is fine? I mean, I

1312
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 3: think it's was Holling during his team preview. He said, like,

1313
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 3: they have five first round picks from the last three

1314
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 3: years are in their rotation. They're very, very young, and

1315
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 3: all you're banking on is that, you know, you're just

1316
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 3: hoping that Sexton gets better and Porty gets better and

1317
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 3: Garland becomes a player like that, this young young core

1318
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 3: can sort of blossom into something. I know, Cora, I

1319
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 3: guess had the game winner right, that was exciting in

1320
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 3: the preseason. Maybe he's something special. But yeah, then, paired

1321
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 3: with the Drummond and Loves, it's weird. It's a weird

1322
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 3: team to want to like tune in to watch there.

1323
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 3: They're gonna be on a lot of people's boring lists.

1324
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 3: And look the jerseys in court that they're gonna be

1325
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 3: trying and the City Edition. I mean, we already joked

1326
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 3: about them. They're no help. So yeah, I got the

1327
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 3: Calves too. I mean, it would usually be the Pistons,

1328
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 3: but I'm with you, Tasks. I'm a little more intrigued

1329
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 3: by the Pistons, And maybe that is because a healthy

1330
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 3: Blake Griffin Killian Hayes.

1331
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm excited about.

1332
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 3: If he's given the keys, if Dwayne Casey does that

1333
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 3: and says, hey, go to town, kid, let's see what

1334
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,439
Speaker 3: you can do. I mean, I'm intrigued by that because

1335
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 3: usually the Pistons are boring. They're usually at the top

1336
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 3: of my list, but Calves. They've bumped him out of

1337
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 3: that spot. What do you got, Trey?

1338
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 4: My team that is super boring is gonna be a

1339
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 4: little bit better than y'all's teams. Orlando Magic once again

1340
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 4: the most boring team in the league to me, because

1341
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 4: they're the exact same team that they've been for the

1342
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 4: past two seasons coming in for year number three. They're

1343
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 4: gonna be good on defense. They're gonna not turn the

1344
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 4: ball over. Nikolavucevic is gonna hit some sweet hook shots.

1345
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon's gonna throw a nice pass and have a

1346
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 4: nice dunk every once in a while. Terrence Ross is

1347
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 4: gonna go off. They're gonna end up about five hundred.

1348
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 4: There's nothing exciting about the Magic. They brought back the

1349
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 4: same team. The only thing that has really changed Hole

1350
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 4: Anthony in for DJ Augustin. Hole Anthony seems like he

1351
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 4: might be exciting. That's the only reason I would ever

1352
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 4: turn into a Magic game.

1353
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 3: It's not a bad pick. Let's hear from you, guys,

1354
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 3: most boring team. Who do you have at the top

1355
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 3: of your list? Let us know on the stream team

1356
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 3: or tweet on us and no dunk sink. All right,

1357
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 3: we got to take a quick break here to hear

1358
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 3: from our sponsors. All right, back into the burning questions.

1359
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 3: On part two, we debated our MVP picks and our

1360
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 3: most improved picks. Well, I got another award based question, Lye.

1361
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 3: It's a juicy one. Everybody loves talking about the guys

1362
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 3: in the suits. Are they even wearing suits anymore? Coach

1363
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 3: of the Year prediction?

1364
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: Who you got? Lee? This is a great one because

1365
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: you can kind of make any sort of argument for

1366
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: any coach for any reason you want. Really doesn't really matter,

1367
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: you know, Well, Frank Vogel do it with the Lake

1368
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: is if they have the best record that I think

1369
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: so Boot and Halls that I think so WILLI that

1370
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: I think it could be someone like a rookie head coach.

1371
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: I'm going with Steve Nash, I think in Brooklyn because

1372
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: I think I think the Nets will be you know,

1373
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: second or third in the Eastern Conference. And it's kind

1374
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: of like, ah, great, yeah, sure, why not. You haven't

1375
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: won it before you can have this award?

1376
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 4: It has it.

1377
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: It's happened before Thibodeau won it his first season in Chicago.

1378
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: I think Avery Johnson technically won it. I think he

1379
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: was actually confirmed as the coach of the Mavericks the

1380
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,959
Speaker 1: you know, the last couple of weeks of the season before,

1381
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: but his first for all season. He won it there,

1382
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't be shocked if it happens. And yeah,

1383
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: I mean Nick Nurse won it last season. He was great.

1384
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: Popovich probably should have won this award ten times and

1385
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: he's only won it I think four, So you know

1386
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: that it's the narrative, is that the big jump in

1387
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: record is it just like, ah, let's just give it

1388
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: to this guy? Why not this year? So I think

1389
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 1: I think Steve Nash has been handed a very very

1390
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: good team obviously, with Kevin Durant and Kyrie everything. They're

1391
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: going to win, you know, like seventy two games they're

1392
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: going to win I think fifty easily. So I think

1393
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: I think I think so, I mean, well, yeah, maybe

1394
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: not easily, but two games. Yeah, I mean they're probably

1395
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: forty five to fifty. I think is probably is pretty

1396
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: easy for the Nets to win that man of games.

1397
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: And I think it's kind of like, yeah, nice, you

1398
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: can have it. Why not who cays? Okay?

1399
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 3: I mean, look, it makes sense, especially the narrative part

1400
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 3: that you're saying, like they were you know, they were good,

1401
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 3: but they weren't great. And if they're one of the

1402
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 3: top teams in the league, then yeah, Nash's gonna probably

1403
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 3: warrant a lot of votes.

1404
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: I love him, I can see it. I can see it,

1405
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: which in a way means I win the award. So

1406
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm not against it. Yeah, exactly. Mind it.

1407
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 3: Well, Trey, you're high on the nets. Are you picking

1408
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 3: Steve Nash?

1409
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 4: No, I'm not picking Steve Nash. I'm picking another big

1410
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 4: name coaching higher. I think Doc Rivers will win Coach

1411
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 4: of the Year this year, and he really doesn't even

1412
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 4: need to do much. Darryl Morey did all the work

1413
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 4: bringing in pieces that fit better around Joel Embiid and

1414
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 4: ben Ben Simmons. The seventy six ers already a pretty

1415
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 4: solid team, eighth in defense. Last year, they were thirteenth

1416
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 4: in offense. I'm imagining that the offense shoots up a

1417
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 4: little bit, and if the team looks like it finally

1418
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 4: makes sense around Simmons and Embiid, you're gonna look at

1419
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 4: Doc Rivers coming in as the coach saying, Wow, look

1420
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 4: at the system this guy put in getting the most

1421
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 4: out of these players that We've been waiting to see

1422
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 4: if anybody's gonna get the most out of them. So

1423
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 4: I imagine if the Sixers can show some improvement, if

1424
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 4: they look like a more cohesive team, those are votes

1425
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 4: for Docky.

1426
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 3: Okay, Tass, you had a great tweet. I think it

1427
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 3: was yesterday. Made me laugh out loud naming all the

1428
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 3: Steves that are coaches out there. There's actually a lot

1429
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 3: of them, because there's Steve Nash, there's Steve Kerr, there's

1430
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 3: Steve Clifford, and there's Steve As we call him Silas.

1431
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 3: So Steve, Stevens, Brad Steele, I'll take it, I'll take it. So, yeah,

1432
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 3: are you taking a Steve as a coach of the year.

1433
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 3: You're taking the field somebody else where.

1434
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 2: You're going Steve's or the field sixteen points sixty six

1435
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 2: percent if you include Brad Stevens of the coaches are Steve's.

1436
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 2: So are you taking a Steve?

1437
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 3: Did Steve tell you that?

1438
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 2: Yeah? Very chance. Sure, I'll go with the Steve. Now,

1439
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 2: I don't really I don't really think any of those

1440
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 2: are gonna win. I think Steve Nash would be cheating.

1441
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 2: He's not even the coach, right Kyrie Irving. That's an

1442
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 2: interesting one. I'll just go with the odds and say that.

1443
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 4: But I do.

1444
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 2: Watch preseason basketball. That's how boring things are around here.

1445
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 2: And I think there's a chance if the Charlotte Hornets

1446
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 2: are playing the way they're playing now into the regular season,

1447
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 2: spreading the floor, going five out like they're de Jhonte

1448
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 2: Murray in that stance, I think they could do it.

1449
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 2: They could surprise. They could surprise. They're moving the ball, baby,

1450
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,919
Speaker 2: they're moving it around, and they've got lots of athleticism

1451
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 2: with Caleb don't call me Cody Martin the Twins, they

1452
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 2: got Miles Bridges, They've got the three guards probably that

1453
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 2: they're going to roll out and on the same rotation

1454
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 2: in Rosier and Vante Graham and Ball and then Gordon Hayward.

1455
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 2: And I'm a PJ. Washington fan, so it's kind of

1456
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 2: interesting to watch them. I'm kind of intrigued by them

1457
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 2: sneaking into that eight seed as they're sperate league going

1458
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 2: for it, but they're gonna have lots and lots of

1459
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 2: competition to get in there. But yeah, did I even

1460
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 2: name their coach James Barrego, Right, Yeah, the James Breglo. Yeah.

1461
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 2: I always like coaches that you're not sure who they're

1462
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 2: actual coaches like Taylor Jenkins last year with Memphis Grizzlies

1463
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 2: got some consideration and he definitely deserved it. All.

1464
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 3: The new leader this year is I can't remember his name,

1465
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 3: the thunder coach Mark Daniel.

1466
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark D's the Cats coach.

1467
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 3: Bickerstaff Yeah, yeah, Okay, So you're going, so what I

1468
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 3: mean the Hornets? I mean, I don't I don't know

1469
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,919
Speaker 3: what they win last year. Twenty four games, twenty three games,

1470
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 3: something like that. So you got them, I guess you

1471
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 3: got them winning at least thirty games. Probably if you

1472
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 3: got them making the playoffs, that's not not a massive

1473
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 3: sort of might be enough.

1474
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 2: Play in tournament. Let's see him I got. I got

1475
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 2: twelve teams making the playoffs in the Eastern Coffeece. Okay, okay,

1476
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 2: we're expanding.

1477
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 3: My pick for Coach of the Year. I am really

1478
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 3: leaning in to my confidence in the Portland Trail Blazers.

1479
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 3: You know, I got Lillard for MVP. I got McCall

1480
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 3: him on the short list from maybe making his first

1481
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 3: All Star Game because I have the Blazers as one

1482
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 3: of the elite teams in the league, in the Western

1483
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 3: Conference at least. So if that's the case, I think

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01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 3: Terry Starts gets some well deserved love in that case

1485
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 3: for Coach of the Year. So I'll go Terry. I'm

1486
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 3: doubling down on Terry, which man, I hope I am

1487
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 3: not jinxing the Blazers right now.

1488
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 4: You gotta do it, man, when you pick a team,

1489
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 4: you just gotta roll with the team.

1490
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it worked really well as last year with

1491
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,919
Speaker 3: the Bulls taking Boilin for coach of the Year.

1492
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 4: Hey, it happened with me and task with the Sixers.

1493
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 4: They're going to the finals. Jowell mbat MVPN Defensive Player.

1494
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 2: Of the Year.

1495
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 4: No way, we regret that kind of stuff. Thank you though,

1496
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 4: for mentioning the Bulls. I was trying to be the

1497
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 4: last one to possibly mention this team that nobody ever mentions.

1498
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 4: What about Billy Donovan. He's replacing the worst coach in

1499
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 4: the league. All the Bulls have to do is look

1500
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 4: competent and people be like, wow, a human coaching, this

1501
01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 4: is awesome.

1502
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I think it's more likely for a

1503
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 3: Donovan over like a James Barrego there. Like in Charlotte

1504
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 3: because he's still he was there. Yeah, he might change

1505
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 3: different things, and you've got new players and Hayward and Maull.

1506
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 3: I get all that, and I hear what you're saying, task,

1507
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 3: but yeah, I feel like the narrative is like more

1508
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 3: for Donovan to come in there and like, oh, the

1509
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 3: Bulls look competent and yeah, maybe are an eight seed

1510
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 3: or a seventh seed or something like that if the

1511
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 3: guys stay healthy and he gets something out of them.

1512
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:21,919
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's not a bad pick.

1513
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of teams we haven't named yet

1514
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 3: because we're over halfway through the burning Questions. I haven't

1515
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 3: talked a lot of Spurs that we talked about their jerseys.

1516
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 3: Not a lot of like Aldridge, Derozen talk here with.

1517
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: Their young guys, and they were actually one of my

1518
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: teams for most boring. Unfortunately, they are kind of boring.

1519
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: You know what you're gonna get. They're gonna be They're

1520
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: gonna be consistent. But Aldridge and and Derosen aren't the

1521
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: sort of guys like you must tune in to watch them,

1522
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: you know.

1523
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean guys are the ones to get

1524
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 2: excited about. Caldon Johnson.

1525
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, to Jontay Marie. I liked Jean Tay Maurrie, but Uhhnnie,

1526
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 1: it's just you know, yeah, I don't know.

1527
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 3: Okay, there any other teams again, like.

1528
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: Uh, Kings, we haven't really talked about the Kings.

1529
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kings and Kings are overlooked right now for sure.

1530
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 3: I'm just curious because I know there's going to be

1531
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 3: people saying, yeah, you've talked about our team.

1532
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 4: Sorry, there's a reason stay tuned for the next three

1533
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 4: hundred episodes.

1534
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 3: That's that's that's a good point, good point. All right,

1535
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 3: A few more questions here, I guess, or one more question,

1536
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 3: excuse me, A fun one. Always end with a banger.

1537
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 3: Biggest fashion trend, we got to start with TK answering

1538
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 3: this first, because he is the most fashionable of the bunch.

1539
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 3: Sorry everybody else, It's true, So Trey biggest fashion trend

1540
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 3: that we can expect here in twenty twenty twenty one

1541
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 3: NBA season.

1542
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 4: It started in the bubble and it has already carried

1543
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 4: over to preseason games, to preseason media day photo shoots.

1544
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 4: Everybody's got their pandemic flow. Rocking long hair is the

1545
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 4: fashion trend of the season. The one that really caught

1546
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 4: my eye was use of Nurkic rocking the Matt Austen

1547
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 4: master proof on the sideline for the Blazers skate. It's

1548
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 4: another award for Portland here. This is huge, but yeah,

1549
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 4: I'm loving it. You gotta love long hair. No reason

1550
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 4: to be going to the barber, just let it.

1551
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 3: Flow out there.

1552
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 4: We've seen a lot of guys already rocking long hair here.

1553
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1554
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 3: Oh, there's coach Steve Mellows.

1555
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 4: Back to Cornrows. John Morant we've talked about a couple

1556
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 4: of times. He's got a ponytail. Ricky Rubio looks like

1557
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 4: Jesus Demonta Sabonis has longer hair, James Harden has longer hair.

1558
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 4: Everybody's letting their freak flag fly. I love it.

1559
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:43,919
Speaker 3: Yeahzen with the froze. Look at Ellis whoa George Michael

1560
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 3: fan on this go yeah, Beyonce over here.

1561
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 1: You know I'm always, as you guys always know, I'm

1562
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: always ahead of the trends, so this was coming.

1563
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 3: So wow it you actually look like incredibly different to

1564
01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 3: me right now. I know the glasses came off with that.

1565
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 3: Here is long mate.

1566
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 4: I want to see you look like Michael Hutchins. I

1567
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 4: don't know if it's true, but I feel like that

1568
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:06,879
Speaker 4: would be the ultimate compliment.

1569
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to see if I can find a pick

1570
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: of Mickey looking like this, because he used to rock

1571
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 1: the glasses too.

1572
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,480
Speaker 2: Trey, you look more like Michael Hutchins than leaders.

1573
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 4: Come on, I'm just trying to be nace gend. I

1574
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 4: didn't want to see Michael Douglas again.

1575
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 3: Makes so you're just saying, yeah, long locks, they're in

1576
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 3: and they're here to stay, especially in quarantine.

1577
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 1: Don't go see your barber.

1578
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 3: What do you got, Ley, what's your fashion trend? Yeah?

1579
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 1: Remember Russell Westbrook down in the bubble there on the sidelines,

1580
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: he was really dressing up. He was sort of coaching,

1581
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: cheering on his team, and he was doing the same

1582
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: thing for one of the Wizards preseason games. He's got

1583
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: the really bright mask on, he's got the break cloth.

1584
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: We know Russell's a big fashion guy. So I think

1585
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 1: you're going to see a little bit more of that

1586
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:53,719
Speaker 1: as well, because I think the players. You talked about

1587
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: the coaches and not having to wear a jacket anymore,

1588
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: I think the players as well on the sidelines don't

1589
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 1: have to wear a jacket either. So I think you're

1590
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 1: just going to see those guys when they sit out

1591
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,560
Speaker 1: really trying to pretend they're on the catwalk. And it

1592
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 1: stopped with Russell, and it's going to be the whole thing,

1593
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: you know, because I have to wear a mask. So

1594
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: masks are going to be kind of fashionable on the

1595
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 1: side and what people can do, how they can get

1596
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: some sort of message out there or sponsorship or whatever

1597
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,719
Speaker 1: it is. So I think it's sort of masks slash

1598
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: sideline apparel.

1599
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 3: Okay, hey, masks is a good pick task, what do

1600
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 3: you have for big?

1601
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 2: Totally agree with masks. Masks are going to be so hot,

1602
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 2: especially the coaches are having to wear them, so you

1603
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,719
Speaker 2: see them front and center when a coach is talking

1604
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 2: to a referee, you see it. I could see the

1605
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 2: Brooklyn Nets having some sort of kerfuffle in the locker room.

1606
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 2: They don't win a game, they have to have some

1607
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 2: sort of players only meeting Kyrie irvingk says something like,

1608
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 2: everybody's all pissed off around here, nobody's smiling, everybody's angry,

1609
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 2: and Steve Nash, being the jovial, comical fellow that he is,

1610
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 2: will come to the next game with one of those

1611
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 2: masks with the smile on it.

1612
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, his own face printed on it.

1613
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, one of the yeah, and so yeah, I

1614
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 2: could see it. I could see it. So there's gotta

1615
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 2: be one funny coach who does it. Because the coaches

1616
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 2: are friends, that are we will see. I don't have

1617
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 2: a lot of skinny pants. Steve Nash out there, Quinn

1618
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 2: Snyder out there with these coaches. So yeah, well we'll

1619
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 2: be talking. We talked about everything. We'll be talking about

1620
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 2: coach fashion, no doubt.

1621
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 3: You just named the team. We haven't talked a lot

1622
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 3: about Utah Jazz there. I haven't not come up all

1623
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 3: that often so far. But we still got two podcasts

1624
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 3: to tackle the burning questions my fashion. Try and I'm

1625
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 3: going to keep this simple, JD. If you want to

1626
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 3: get to scroll, and I'm throwing this on you on

1627
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 3: the fly here, but it's the no Dunks gear guys, baby,

1628
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:44,959
Speaker 3: come on here, listen. Open invitation to all NBA players

1629
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 3: and teams. You want some no Dunks gear that you're

1630
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 3: going to rock on the sidelines or walking into the arena,

1631
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 3: you reach out to us and we will hook you up.

1632
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 2: All right, Garant tell you where to order.

1633
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 3: No, we will not even make you order it. We

1634
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,959
Speaker 3: will get it into your hands. That's a Skeets promise,

1635
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,799
Speaker 3: all right, because oh, look some of those beautiful hoodies

1636
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 3: and shirts coming into the arena rocking a No Dunks

1637
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 3: piece of Mertz and jie an item like that tray.

1638
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 4: So I have to agree, Skeets, and I honestly think

1639
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 4: that it should be a Raptors, a Raptors initiative to

1640
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 4: be wearing this. You know, they've had to relocate to

1641
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 4: you in the United States, much like we have. They

1642
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 4: signed an Australian this year. They brought back a guy

1643
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 4: from Illinois. This is the team of No Dunks. OK,

1644
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 4: get them some gear, all.

1645
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 3: Right, Well, we'll reach out to the Raptors. We're gonna

1646
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 3: hook them up with some No Dunks gear. That's gonna

1647
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 3: be the biggest fashion trying. Everybody's gonna want one. If

1648
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 3: you don't have one, go to No Dunks dot com

1649
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 3: right now, get your own, get ahead of the Raptors

1650
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 3: eventually wearing them on the catwalk, and get your No

1651
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 3: Dunks merch. Alright, we're gonna call it. There a lot

1652
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 3: of fun this one, guys. Thanks for joining us. Shout

1653
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 3: out to the stream team. Keep your questions coming for

1654
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 3: upcoming Beach Step in podcast, which we'll probably record, you know,

1655
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 3: early next week before the actual NBA games tip off

1656
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 3: on Tuesday. Email Theman No Dunks at the Athletic dot

1657
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 3: com or you can tweet them in at No dunk Sinc.

1658
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 3: Leave your boys some five star ratings and reviews on

1659
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 3: Apple podcasts. So so important if you haven't done this

1660
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 3: because at the start of a season, obviously you got

1661
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 3: a bunch of new people looking for an NBA podcast

1662
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,759
Speaker 3: and stuff like that to follow throughout the league throughout

1663
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 3: the year. Excuse me, you know that helps you get

1664
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 3: those ratings and reviews in helps with the algorithm, gets

1665
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 3: No Dunks higher on the list and maybe we find

1666
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 3: some more eyeballs and ear holes and get hooked to

1667
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 3: the show. Back tomorrow.

1668
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 1: What is it?

1669
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 3: Thursday tomorrow? Part four of our burning Questions about the

1670
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 3: upcoming NBA season. Until then, Clipper Bros.

1671
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 1: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

1672
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 1: love you guys awesome.

1673
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. No quote from me today. Somebody

1674
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 2: said that Lee looks like George Michael. Can we get

1675
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 2: your hair flown? And you sing? A little wham man.

1676
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 1: Last Christmas. Last Christmas, I gave you my heart. The

1677
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: very next day you gave it.

1678
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 4: Away honestly free.

1679
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: That was pretty good. That was nice.

1680
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 3: Embrace the day people.

1681
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 2: That Christmas, I gave you my heart, but the very next.

1682
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 4: Day you gave it.

1683
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 2: To sell anybodies, I'll give it to some one.

1684
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 4: Slash