1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, ready or not, twenty twenty four is here, 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: and we here at breaking points, are already thinking of 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: ways we can up our game for this critical election. 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 2: We rely on our premium subs to expand coverage, upgrade 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: the studio ad staff, give you, guys, the best independent. 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 3: Coverage that is possible. 7 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 2: If you like what we're all about, it just means 8 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: the absolute world to have your support. 9 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 3: But enough with that, Let's get to the show, all right. 10 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: So, we, of course have been listening to Joe Biden 11 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: delivered the twenty twenty four State of the Union. We've 12 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: pulled a few of the notable, most notable moments. I 13 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: guess we would say Ryan is joined us at the 14 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: table now. And since we haven't heard from you yet, Ryan, 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: I'm chillous. In any case, what were your sort of 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: top line takeaways? Do you think he met the moment? 17 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm so sick of these things. I mean, okay, 18 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 4: so he looked like less old than he normally loved books. 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 5: True for a while, sort of flagged there at the end. 20 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 4: It's like, okay, good, and the press is going to 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 4: talk about that for a couple of days. But it's like, so, 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 4: what so so he looked less old than he normally 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 4: looks like on one night. The American people are not stupid, 24 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 4: like they know, ninety percent of them thought he was 25 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 4: too old before the speech. 26 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: Ninety percent of. 27 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 4: Them still think he's too old and think that he 28 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 4: like gave a decent speech and was like hopped up 29 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 4: on the right stuff. And wait another day and there's 30 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 4: going to be another video clip of him looking just 31 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 4: insanely too old. So just from a just if we're 32 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 4: going to do the optics horse race at of bit, yeah, 33 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 4: I think everybody on CNN and MSNBC was going to 34 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 4: be talking about how great a job that he did 35 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 4: it delivering like sentences off of the teleprompter are missing 36 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 4: the fact that the American people are not idiots. 37 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 6: Larry already said it was a quote home run. 38 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 4: It's going to get good reviews when you're down by 39 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 4: thirty runs and it's. 40 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 6: A ninth And he tweets so Larry Saba said that 41 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 6: about halfway through the speech, and I actually think that's 42 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 6: an important kind of dividing line. It did seem Donald 43 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 6: Trump tweeted that the meds were wearing off. That's an 44 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 6: actual Trump social post. It did though, seem like Joe Biden, 45 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 6: as he got more comfortable behind the podium, was trying 46 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 6: to mix it up. As you had sort of Marjorie 47 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 6: Taylor Green and other Freedom Caucus people yelling back at him. 48 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 6: He had some exchanges that if he weren't as old 49 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 6: as he is, might have gone better for him. 50 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: But it was horrible. 51 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 6: I mean, it was like he had built up this 52 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 6: momentum and then he lost it because he spent his 53 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 6: capital like trying to go back and forth with Marjor 54 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 6: Taylor Green, and like, actually the perfect symbol of that 55 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 6: is Marjor Taylor Green gave him the Lake and Riley button. 56 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 6: That's the name of the girl who was killed in 57 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 6: Georgia recently, and Biden had it on the podium with him, 58 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 6: and then he said her name wrong, and he had 59 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 6: his name right. 60 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: And for her name, and there were crazy coughs and 61 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 3: other things, and then he said illegal. 62 00:02:58,680 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 63 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 3: Actually, I mean it was probably politically. 64 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 5: Okay, So I did see. 65 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: Jonathan Martin made a good point on ty was like 66 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: imagine watching the Democratic debates in twenty nineteen and the 67 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: way that the entire party, including Joe Biden, was talking 68 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: about immigration and then hearing him in the State of 69 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: the Union saying not even a llegal immigrant in. 70 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: Illegalwise but otherwise that part was actually pretty pro immigration, 71 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 4: and generally it was just that one rhetorical slip. 72 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 5: So, I mean, I just think that there. 73 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: First of all, I think the policy on immigration and 74 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: the like, hey, Donald Trump, we want to argue to 75 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: the American people that you're literally a fascist on the border, 76 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: But also why don't you work with me on implementing 77 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: your fascism at the border. 78 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 5: Border is a poorlish, foolish. 79 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: Insane strategy, and I think the foolishness of that strategy 80 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: was reflected in that moment where he's trying to on 81 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: the one hand, act like he's as much of a 82 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: hard ass as the Republicans, like I will be just 83 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: as cool at the border as you, and on the 84 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: other hand, still trying to do the liberal like but 85 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: we want to welcome him. It doesn't make any freaking sense. 86 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: And then when you he goes off the prompter and 87 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: does this trying to. 88 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 5: Mix it up. 89 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: First of all, it was a hot mess on every level. 90 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: Right You're you're holding your breath the whole time. 91 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 5: Like, oh, where this going? 92 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: It is? 93 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: Hard to watch because you know, he's going off the rails. 94 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't really totally make sense. He's using the wrong name, 95 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: he's using this sort of like you know, antiquated pejorative 96 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: that is completely verboda and you know, left of center. 97 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, and so it's it's a mess. 98 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: But I mean, listen, if this was Obama delivering this 99 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: speech at this level tonight, everyone would be going that 100 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: was an utter catat like there's something wrong with Barack Obama? 101 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 5: What has happened to him? 102 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: Because this Joe Biden, like, yes, the Sandon people are 103 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: going to make him sound like he was amazing, and 104 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: it was perfect and it was like FDR. 105 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 5: And Reagan and whoever rolled up into one. 106 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: But he did do better than the expectations that were 107 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: set for him. And I think for him tonight, that 108 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: was all he really needed to do. When we're just 109 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: talking about the horse racing and opt. 110 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: Let me zoom out a little bit just from the 111 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: structure of the speech, because we kind of skipped ahead 112 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: to immigration. And I actually think that's a key point 113 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 2: is I actually have a time code here in front 114 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: of me. So Biden began speaking somewhere between like nine 115 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: to fifteen nine to twenty five. He did not mention 116 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: immigration until ten oh eight pm, and that was well 117 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 2: within some forty. 118 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 3: Five fifty minutes into the speech. 119 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: The vast majority of the people who watched the State 120 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: of the Union only watched the first fifteen to thirty minutes. 121 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 3: So the construction of. 122 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 2: The speech was basically to front load the issues where 123 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 2: he has the best approval rating on, from Ukraine to 124 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: the economy, a lot of the drug racing struction. 125 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, So I have actually had the list 126 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: in front of me. 127 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: It was Ukraine January sixth ivf Row versus weighed making 128 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: fun of Republicans for cheering on infrastructure money, then drug price, 129 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: then then tax cuts for the reach, then immigration. Right, 130 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 2: so now we're ten pm, we're well passed time where 131 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: a lot of folks have turned the television off, and 132 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: then Israel comes after that. 133 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,559 Speaker 3: So he saved and we've consistent polling. 134 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 2: We've reflected here on our Tuesday show the number one 135 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: issue that Biden is underwater. Immigration, Number two is Gaza Ukraine. Somehow, 136 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 2: don't ask me why people haven't been watching enough. Breaking 137 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: points is his top issue. So that's what he decided 138 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 2: to lead with and we actually have a clip of that. 139 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: I believe that we can show you. 140 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: I will just say I am personally offended and stunded, 141 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: genuinely that the State of the Union about the United 142 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: States of America began with a tie rade about Ukraine 143 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 2: and why we should fund a foreign war, which is 144 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: I personally think is insane, and he tried to capture 145 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: some reaganesque tear down that wall energy and craft himself 146 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: with Trump. 147 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: That's right, we have a clip of that. So guys, 148 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 3: if we can go ahead and play it, let's take 149 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:47,679 Speaker 3: a listen. 150 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 6: But now. 151 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 7: Assistance Ukraine is being blocked by those who want to 152 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 7: walk away from our world leadership. Was a long ago 153 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 7: Republican president named Ronald Reagan thundered, mister Garbachoffs, tear down 154 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 7: this wall. Now, now my treasudent a session, a former 155 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 7: Republican president tells pudent, quote, do whatever the hell you want. 156 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 7: That's a quote a former president actually said that, bowing 157 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 7: down to a Russian leader. I think it's outrageous, it's dangerous, 158 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 7: and it's unacceptable. 159 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 3: Take a note of Joe Manchin and Mitt Romney's standing 160 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: up for that one. But again, I mean, I really 161 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 3: wondering what you guys think. 162 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: I understand that, yes, he has a forty six percent 163 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: of approval rating on Ukraine, but I mean starting off 164 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: the State of the Union on why we must fund 165 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: more aid to Ukraine just seems completely crazy to me. 166 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: The actual political hit that he had IVF, which we'll 167 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: get to in a little bit, and on Roe versus 168 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: Wade did not come some seventeen minutes crystal into the speech. 169 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: So we had Ukraine and then we had January sixth. 170 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: January sixth. 171 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: Look, I think it's annoying to litigate whatever January sixth, 172 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: three and a half some years later, but politically it 173 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: has played for him in his contrast with Trump. 174 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: But he was really trying to stretch that into the 175 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: top and I thought, I mean, look, I'll just put 176 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 3: it this way. It was a choice. It was a 177 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: choice to start on Ukraine. 178 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: Normally, I feel like I'm pretty decent at taking my 179 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: own personal view of situations out of my political horse 180 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: race analysis. But I cannot abide this man at this point, 181 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: given the facilitation of genocide that is going on as 182 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: we speak, trying to speak in moral language about Ukraine, 183 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: like I just can't. It's always been hypocritical. We've always 184 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: known that that was a farce and covering for a 185 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: lot of other things that are going on. But given 186 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: the you know, full full pass and the unconditional support 187 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: and the hey, Natan yahoo, do whatever you want that 188 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: he's given, I cannot take that context away from that 189 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: moment in him now trying to use this flowery pro 190 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: democracy bullshit language about Ukraine. 191 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 2: Well, that's a good point. Actually, it's very discontinent with 192 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: the policy and the. 193 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 4: Through line of the Biden administration has been not understanding 194 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 4: what's going on with their base and with people who 195 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 4: are just livid and shocked. 196 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: And appalled at what he's doing. 197 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 4: And so for them, I don't think they understand how 198 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 4: when you start talking about, like, how dare you give 199 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 4: a foreign leader unconditional support in its invasion of a 200 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 4: helpless people like that's outraged that so many people would 201 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 4: hear that, Yes, exactly, how dare you like why. 202 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: He knows he knows that Gose. 203 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 4: Israel's terrible for him, That's why he has it at 204 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 4: the very back end of the speech, right, But he 205 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 4: doesn't understand how it connects to that. 206 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 5: Well, and here's what's been interesting too. 207 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: Is actually, you know, they have stopped using a lot 208 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: of the language, like a lot of his you know, 209 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: State Department goruls and whoever, have stopped using a lot 210 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: of that international rules based order language because they know 211 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: how blatantly hypocritical it is, right, I mean, how many 212 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: clips have we played for members of Congress or whatever 213 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: that's like, Oh, you knew it was a war crime then, 214 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: but now suddenly you need a lawyer, you need fifteen 215 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: independent experts in thirteen years to figure out whether it's 216 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: a freaking war crime when it's right there in front 217 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: of your face every single day on TikTok. So there 218 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: is some awareness in the administration that they have lost 219 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: the ability. 220 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 5: To talk in those terms. 221 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: So that was why I did find it sort of 222 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: shocking that they started with that and tried to re 223 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: embrace those terms. 224 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 5: I mean, remember on his way here, he had to 225 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 5: go the long route around to. 226 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: Avoid hundreds of protesters who are outside saying your legacy 227 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: is genocide. So that is the This speech didn't just 228 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: fall out of a coconut tree. 229 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 5: There's a context. 230 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 3: Are so thank you for that. 231 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 6: This is an interesting This is an interesting point about 232 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 6: even their media strategy. Because going into this, they were 233 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 6: like not leaking, but they were doing a lot of 234 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 6: interviews Jeff Science and other people about how this was 235 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 6: going to be Biden's reset, that people have quote Trump amnesia, 236 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 6: they don't remember how bad things were under Trump because 237 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 6: Biden is still sort of purportedly digging out of the 238 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 6: COVID hole, and so people just don't understand that Joe 239 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 6: Biden has you know, made this recovery go up, even 240 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 6: though of course what they're not telling you is that 241 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 6: up is relative to what it came down from when 242 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 6: COVID happened. And what's interesting again is that this is 243 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 6: not how it works anymore. That if you frontload a 244 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 6: speech and you're hoping to, you know, minimize the damage 245 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 6: with voters who are upset about your policy in Israel, 246 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 6: or you're hoping to minimize your damage with people who 247 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,599 Speaker 6: are upset with your policy at the border. Because he 248 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 6: also saved that way for life. Asked, as you mentioned 249 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 6: two things that he's pulling the worst on, it doesn't 250 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 6: matter anymore because to your point, Crystal, these clips, we play, 251 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 6: these clips, these clips go. 252 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 5: Of our own. 253 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 6: I was just say the first half of his speech 254 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 6: for Joe Biden. He didn't seem like he was half asleep. 255 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 3: So low bar, but he cleared it. 256 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 6: Good for him on that. And then as it started 257 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 6: to you know, start, speech keeps going. Obviously is slipping 258 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 6: a little bit, but his I think some of his 259 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 6: really sloppy exchanges, he made a personal decision. We were 260 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 6: following the transcript of the speech. He made a personal 261 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 6: decision to engage constantly with his hecklers. I don't know 262 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 6: what you guys saying on this. I don't really have 263 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 6: a problem with hecklers. I think it. I like the Yeah, 264 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,599 Speaker 6: I think, and I think actually a lot of I 265 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 6: think the American. 266 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: Well, they both seem to like it. Yeah, yeah, that's 267 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: clearly feedback. 268 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 5: Personally, my number one issue is to chorus. That's what 269 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 5: I want. Looks random, decorous. 270 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: But not he was so upset about but he loves 271 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 2: the heck like you you're a hypocrite. 272 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 6: But anyway, that's not how this works anymore. All of 273 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 6: those clips, you know, if he was hoping to save 274 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 6: the border for last and stave off some problems with 275 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 6: different voters, those clips are going to be viral as hell. 276 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 6: The Goza clips are going to be viral as hell 277 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 6: it it doesn't. 278 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 3: Work like yeah, that's right. In the Internet era, everything 279 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 3: is forever, whether he puts me at the end or not. 280 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I still think it was obviously a political 281 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: choice because some the twenty seven million people tuned in 282 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: last year to this, it was the only political event 283 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: talk to break the top one hundred broadcasts. Very likely 284 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: we'll get very similar ratings this time around, especially since 285 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 2: it is an election. Yeer, you know, kind of going 286 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: back to the political hits quote unquote, you know, if 287 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: we have at least play the parts where I think 288 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: that he definitely scored himself good points. Is he was cogent, 289 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: I would say relatively, because he was sticking completely to 290 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: the script. 291 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 3: He didn't seem as off. 292 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: He wasn't coughing as much and losing his place and 293 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: slurring his speech in the first forty five minutes, and 294 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 2: he actually stuck it a little bit on Roe versus 295 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: Wad and on IVF. So we do have, guys, if 296 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: we can play the next clip here where he directly 297 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: addresses the Supreme Court on Roe versus Wade, which I 298 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 2: thought was a smart strategy given the way that his 299 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 2: bass feels about it and how it has animated so 300 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: many voters. 301 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: So guys, why don't we go ahead and play that 302 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 3: next one? 303 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 7: With all due respect, justices, women are not without electoral power, 304 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 7: excuse me, electoral or political power. You're about to realize 305 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 7: just how much. 306 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 6: You variety about. 307 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 5: And Ryan, he also that was delivered super cleanly. But 308 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 5: you know it's a good line. 309 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: Listen as you said, what did you say in the beginning, 310 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: we're grading on a curve, right, like we're grading on 311 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: the silent generation curve. The long one line I still 312 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: can't believe from the speech is I was born during 313 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: World War Two. I'm like, you should probably just never 314 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: remind people we are literally I am watching documentaries on 315 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: Netflix of World War II in color, which is so amazing, 316 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: by the way, new One is. 317 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 3: It's awesome. 318 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: But when we have to colorize footage from whatever the 319 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: president of the United States is born today, little bit nuts. 320 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: But Ryan, we were talking, we were like, wow. 321 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 3: That was his real hit was on I v F 322 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 3: and on rooms Wade. 323 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: So again, you know, saving in a little bit for 324 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 2: the middle part of the speech, but calling directly, He's like, 325 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: let's legalize IVF right now, and pointing to one of 326 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: the women. 327 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 6: In the ballot. 328 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 5: You had a idea of how. 329 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 4: It's half joke, but not really, because at this point, 330 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 4: what do you have to lose. If I were his 331 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 4: speech writer, I would have give him a one page 332 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 4: speech and it's iv F and Roe v Wade. You 333 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 4: get in there, you talk about those two things, and 334 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 4: you're like, bye, that's it. 335 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 3: Just talk about how did that not even anti? 336 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 4: Just because once you start doing anti trust a shrunken 337 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 4: candle words. 338 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 3: Those worms just keep coming. 339 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 4: You do iv F and row and then and then 340 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 4: you just lay it on the table that it's like, look, 341 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 4: I am running for reelection. You you think I'm way 342 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 4: too old for this job. You think I'm doing a genocide. 343 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 4: But the Republicans are crazy and they do the They're 344 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 4: gonna be yeah and Trump right and be like that's it. 345 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 4: Don't pretend like you're offering anything. 346 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 3: He didn't say Trump's name. 347 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 6: By the way. 348 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,479 Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to make the point though that, especially 349 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: the early part of the speech, and this was obviously 350 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: a very intentional choice to try to make Biden look 351 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: feisty and vigorous and all that. 352 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 5: It was very aggressive. Yeah, I mean it was, it 353 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 5: was very. 354 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: You know, I'm coming after you didn't say Trump's name, 355 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: but he said, you know, the former president, my. 356 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 5: Prodecessor, et cetera, et cetera. It was especially the first 357 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 5: portion was. 358 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: A campaign speech, and you know, so he hits him 359 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: on Putin and he's gonna let Putin do whatever he wants. 360 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 5: And then he hits him on January sixth, hits. 361 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: Him on abortion and you're the one that put these 362 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: justices on the court, And you know, it was really 363 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: taking trying to take it to him and show that 364 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: he still has the ability to credibly do that. So 365 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: I think it was, you know, very conscious to try 366 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: to demonstrate that he had this fight and this level 367 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: of aggressiveness that he's able to bring to the table, 368 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: at least when it's scripted in a teleprompter, and he 369 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: has had a whole cocktail of whatever director. 370 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 5: They even before he stepp down there, they already have. 371 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 2: Joe Scarborough wing and he says it's Biden's best speech. 372 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 2: Underestimated Again. 373 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 3: I mean, that is the direct audience I say for this. 374 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's interesting because I've seen among the sort of 375 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 6: commentariat reactions that are like this and reactions that are 376 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 6: like Amy Walter, who said this feels more like something 377 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 6: one would hear at the DNC than a state of 378 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 6: the Union. He has already mentioned his quote unquote predecessor 379 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 6: in negative terms two times in first in the first 380 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 6: few minutes. Danny Pletka, American Enterprise Institute. 381 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 5: She's voting on the Yeah, that was the problem for her. 382 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 6: Conservative says like literally the Israeli and Ukraine flags in 383 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 6: her bio. She said, what Biden doesn't realize is how 384 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 6: much he now reflects Trump's legacy angry, hate, field, partisan, 385 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 6: without hope, just vengeance and some random untries about the economy. 386 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 6: So I've seen a sort of bifurcated reaction from the 387 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 6: chattering class. 388 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: I think that's so stupid. This is the state of 389 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: the Union before the election. It is a candidate. What 390 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 2: are we all doing? Do we remember Trump' speach? I 391 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 2: remember Obama's as well, Obamas twenty twelve. That's the thing 392 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: that was a huge campaign kickoff. Roe is you know 393 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: the deciding read. That's the main thing that's getting you know, 394 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 2: even also to crawl. 395 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 4: Out and the Amy Walters of the world are this 396 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 4: like centrists, like DC class that used to kind of 397 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: squat comfortably between the two parties, and now it's more 398 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 4: difficult for them because the MAGA wing they don't have 399 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 4: a they don't have a spot there, So it's hard 400 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 4: for them to pretend to both sides it that they. 401 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 3: Can't both side it as well. 402 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 4: So they have to like figure out ways to like 403 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 4: not look like they're Democrats because they have just become Democrats, 404 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 4: whether they want to admit it or not. 405 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: So one way to say that I'm not a Democratic. 406 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 4: This guy he's. 407 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,959 Speaker 2: The president, he's the top federal figure in the country, 408 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: he's running for re election. He'd be an idiot not 409 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: to do that. I mean, this is always gets back 410 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 2: to this. Stratton's very shot. Look he was Yeah, he 411 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: was shouting. I mean, look, that's what it takes for 412 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: him to be able to speak clearly. 413 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 5: So but that's that. I mean again, that's very intentional. 414 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 8: Listen with the floor, the bar is as low as 415 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 8: it could possibly be. Okay, but the whole thing, I'm 416 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 8: sure they coached him up, like be loud, be energetic, 417 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 8: and so that's why he comes out there and he's screaming. 418 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: At us, but rift too much. 419 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, well that part wandered off the rails at the end. 420 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 5: But I mean in a. 421 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: Way too, the fact that you bury your toughest issues at. 422 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 5: The end, when the meds are wearing off and you're 423 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 5: starting to it is not actually a great strategy. 424 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: Since we're talking about decorum, it's as good of a 425 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: time as any to show this little Marjorie Taylor Green 426 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: Joe Biden interaction. This is as he's walking in, you know, 427 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: he's doing the grip and grin with all the gathered 428 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: members or whatever. Marjorie's there, she's in her red Maga 429 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: hat and she has the Lincoln Riley is abating that's 430 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: right pin that she's trying to put in his face. 431 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: We've got a reaction from the president that caught a 432 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: lot of people's attention. Let's take a look at that, 433 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: so that that face is what everybody well, Chris, I. 434 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: Guess we don't have the clip of this, but what 435 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 2: it was, and there was a noteworthy part where he 436 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: held it up and this is what we referenced in 437 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: the beginning. And he because she was shouting his name, 438 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: she was interrupting him whenever he was calling for the pastors, 439 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: the Byparson border Bill, and he was like, say her name, 440 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 2: and he actually took out the pen. He said, yes, 441 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: it's like and Riley as you said he referred to. 442 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: He said, yes, she was killed by an illegal. Where 443 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 2: I did see some some gasps, I mean even me, 444 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 2: I was wow, I can't believe the Democratic president just 445 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 2: said that. Yeah, yeah, what did you say? Was it 446 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 2: hasn't it hasn't been Cannon, I think in the lexicon fact. 447 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: We do actually have a portion of that. But the 448 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: Internet was reacting to that face. 449 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 5: Okay, so that's why we wanted to see the. 450 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,479 Speaker 1: Face that was there's a lot of Internet reaction to that. 451 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: But we do have a portion of the immigration ad 452 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: lib that we can show you. Guys, this is D 453 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: four control him if you could run. 454 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 7: That Lincoln Lincoln Riley, a thenocent young woman who was killed? 455 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: Why and illegal? That's right? 456 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 7: But how many of thousands of people being killed by legal? 457 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 3: Wow? Yeah, I mean again it went on genuinely. 458 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 5: Crazy and it went on from there uncomfortably. 459 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, it was the reason why I was uncomfortable. 460 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 2: As Emily noted, is he didn't know the name properly, 461 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: and then he was like stumbling kind of through it, 462 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 2: didn't know what he was doing. 463 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean electorally, and I know the point he is 464 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: trying to make there, which is that the native born 465 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: population has a higher crime rate than the immigrant population. 466 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: Yeah so, but then when you're in the position of 467 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: being like, yeah, well, how many people to regular Americans murder, 468 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: it's like this wasn't made in Williams the most artful 469 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: way possible. And that's when I started, you know, getting nervous. 470 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: And then he's like, this killed by an illegal and. 471 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 4: You think, you think we're so innocent, but yeah, wait, 472 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 4: he was right. 473 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 3: We're both right. 474 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 6: That is going to be mega viral, though undermined any 475 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 6: attempt that his administration made, and it's because he went 476 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 6: off script. He didn't have to. 477 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: Go off but Emily, we know that. I mean, those 478 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: attempts were already of course done. And the other thing 479 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: that happened there is James Langford, Senator, who worked on 480 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: that bipartisan bill, which was, you know, legitimately very hard 481 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: line in which Trump came out and was like, no, 482 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't want this to pass because I want to 483 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 1: use this as an issue in the election. Langford was 484 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: the sort of lead Republican negotiator on that and so 485 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: when Biden is there saying this is the toughest border 486 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: security bill that any president has ever you know, tried 487 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 1: to push through. Langford actually mouths that's true, as his 488 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: Republican colleagues are booing. 489 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 5: And you know, no, that's a lie. Marjorie Taylor Green 490 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 5: and doing her thing and whatever. 491 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: I think it's a thing from like I personally, if 492 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: people want, we did an hour and a half long 493 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: debate die about this bill. 494 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 3: People could watch. I mean, relative, what's what's what? 495 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: You know? 496 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 3: What is a bill that has been tougher? 497 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 5: Well? 498 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: Okay, what what I would come back to is just 499 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 2: is really this is on the politics of it. I've 500 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 2: always agreed with Crystal is if you care about the border. 501 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: I care about the border. Emily you do too. 502 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 2: It's one of those things where just like, yeah, we 503 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 2: don't trust you Biden, period, and the story like even 504 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 2: with all this other shenanigans because of the people who 505 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: work for you and all the other things that've happened 506 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 2: in the last in term three years, you actually I 507 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: think at this point, if you're a border voter, like 508 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 2: you're just a Republican one hundred percent, like you're going 509 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 2: to vote for him or you're going to vote for 510 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 2: Trump or you're just. 511 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 3: Not going to vote for Biden on this issue period. 512 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 2: Now, can he move some like independent vote or anything 513 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: on this I genuinely don't think so. 514 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: I think his best his best thing. 515 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: You wouldn't say that there was another bill that was tougher. 516 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: You're just saying, I don't trust Biden to implement. 517 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: About this, is what I'm saying about the bill, like 518 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: what we've had legislation introduced in twenty seventeen that was 519 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 2: much tougher under Trump, there was one that HR two 520 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 2: is what the Republicans have. 521 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 3: No. Well, no, it did representative right. 522 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 5: But it wasn't mean in a lot right. I mean 523 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 5: this last either undelighted that it was blocked. 524 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, but you can't say, wait billion other 525 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 3: bail out there. 526 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: The point is HR two, Combot. 527 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 5: Think about this. 528 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: You know there's no way and how Democrats would vote 529 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: for this ship under Trump. 530 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 5: Not a chance, not a chance that they would have 531 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 5: backed this bill with no path, nothing even for doc 532 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 5: for the. 533 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 3: None of that. Under the next Trump. I'm not maybe. 534 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 6: Look, I mean that's why I would have Under Bush 535 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 6: the Democratic Party. The New York Times had an amazing 536 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 6: poll on this, So how Democrats have moved way more 537 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 6: than Republicans in the last like just the average name 538 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 6: in the last twenty thirty or just on immigrations I'm 539 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 6: talking about, And I think that's what's for Republicans. That's 540 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 6: what to me was interesting about Biden actually being willing 541 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 6: to take the pen for Marjorie Taylor Green and then 542 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 6: go back and forth. 543 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 9: I just thought it, so, you guys are also acting 544 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 9: like this is some like open borders him him the 545 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 9: most honest like positioning that you get from him when 546 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,959 Speaker 9: he blur sounds something like and illegal killed her. 547 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: I mean, this is who he's been throughout. He has 548 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: not sound lib on this issue. 549 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 6: But that's like the whiplash that people get with like 550 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 6: democrats genuinely disaffective. People will look at this or people 551 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 6: who care about the border and they don't feel like 552 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 6: Democrats have could have have dedicated enough time to it 553 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 6: and haven't been willing to take tough steps to it. 554 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 6: That's why I thought the moment was so emblematic, Like 555 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 6: Biden took the pen from Marjorie Tayler Green, he tried 556 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 6: to interact with her. He thought he was interacting with 557 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 6: her in good faith, which is in and of itself 558 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 6: a weird thing. 559 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: I think he was trying to flip it is what. 560 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: I think he was trying to get the political one 561 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: on us. 562 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 6: But it's sort of all of it in a nutshell 563 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 6: that Biden wants to try to please these two unpleasable 564 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 6: blocks and he thinks he's the only one who can 565 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 6: do it, like like I alone. 566 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: Can just think about Okay, So the two areas where 567 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: Biden has the worst approval. 568 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 3: Writing right now, immigration and gods. 569 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 5: Immigration and gassa right. 570 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: And in order to try to appease a group of 571 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: people who you're writer, Republicans are not voting. 572 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 3: For him, it's not going to happen. 573 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: People who for immigrant you know that the border and 574 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: quote unquote immigration crisis is their number one issue. 575 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 5: They're not voting for him. 576 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: He is willing to abandon everything he said on the 577 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: campaign trail and literally reach out his hand and say. 578 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 5: Donald Trump, work with me on this issue. On Gaza. 579 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: He's willing to pretend like he cares and do literally 580 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: nothing to change the policy because it's the pressure from 581 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: the left. I mean, it's so illustrative of the contempt 582 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: with which the Democratic Party holds anything that they see 583 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: as coming from the left, they just hold it in 584 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: complete and utter contempt, and they delight in screwing on there. 585 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: It's a total opposite on the Republican Party side. I 586 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: think they go to great lengths to try to like, 587 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: well that pleasen't cater to their base. 588 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 6: But Pulican base would say the Langford negotiations was the 589 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 6: biggest little finger they ever got from But they didn't. 590 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: But then they backed away from it when they got 591 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: pressure from the base. They backed said, hey, you need 592 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: to and here's the thing is, I just don't think 593 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: you can deny. I am delighted that they killed this bill. Now, 594 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: I don't think anything's going to happen. The things that 595 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: are more likely to happen or is Trump gets in again, 596 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: whatever he does through executive orders, which is quite significant, 597 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: what he could do, that's what's likely to happen. But 598 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: in terms of you know, actual legislation passing, no, they're 599 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: not going to get another bite at the South. 600 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 5: It was purely political. 601 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 4: Because why would Democrats help him because at that point 602 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 4: it's Trump's problem. 603 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 5: Exactly. 604 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 4: That's exactly right that Republicans were like sorry, Biden, this 605 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 4: is your problem. 606 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: And at the same time, Democrats have completely abandoned any 607 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: sort of moral high ground that they had on this issue, 608 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: and they've just like accepted the Republican argue, which why 609 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: I think it's, you know, both a moral and political disaster. 610 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 2: I will stick with what you said, you know, immigration 611 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 2: debates and all that aside. I think that a point 612 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 2: that you're making is important about political constituencies, ability to 613 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: exercise power and the border because it's interesting because if 614 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: you look in the past, the Republican base was basically 615 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: they were all going bases want immigration restriction for like 616 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 2: seventy years or whatever, like for as long as as 617 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 2: the modern. 618 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 3: Coalition has existed, screwed, screw screwed Gang of Eight over 619 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 3: and over again. 620 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 2: They're finally able to extract actually some blood on Eric Cantor. 621 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 2: And then with the Freedom Caucus from there, plus the 622 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: rise of Trump, you have Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Jeb 623 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 2: Bush and all these other people can disavow their previous 624 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: immigration policies and basically meet Trump where he is, and 625 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: then you get to the status quo of today where 626 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: the base is able to kill a border bill. The 627 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: problem and I mean there's a myriad reasons why it's 628 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 2: maybe what this is, I actually want to know what 629 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 2: you guys think. It's for some reason we haven't seen 630 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: the ability for the left to exercise that same level 631 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 2: of political power until Look, maybe today is the breaking point, right, 632 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 2: because we have uncommitted that actually is a genuine political force. 633 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 2: And I mean I think that the calculus and this 634 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: is where I probably defend the two of you and 635 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 2: have stuck up for you. Also when my Centris Biden 636 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: fends get very upset and the things that you say 637 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: is they're like, you say Trump, it's. 638 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 3: Not just Marshall is there? 639 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 2: Like yeah, but but Trump would be so much worse. 640 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, but they're trying to extract a pound 641 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: of flesh to show that they can. And it's like 642 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: that just hasn't really happened a lot with the political 643 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: left in this. 644 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: There is a knee jerk assumption that really started with 645 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton. 646 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, right, that the way. 647 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: To win is to kick the left in posture, like 648 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: you you know, to adopt a lot of the Republican 649 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: position like on welfare and on NAFTA and all kinds of. 650 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 9: Other is the symbol and the poster Canada that is 651 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 9: his ideological bearing. 652 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I keep Mark Lamont Hill said 653 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: this with regards to Israel and how they were have 654 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: been so clueless about what a problem this is for 655 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: them electorally, which has been obvious from the very beginning. 656 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: But if you've been in Washington fifty years, in that 657 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: fifty years, it has never been a political problem to 658 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: be too pro Israel. And so him and the you know, 659 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: his little bubble of people who have similar like fifty 660 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: year careers in Washington, d C. And all of these 661 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: things in they're just not able to adjust to any 662 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: other assumption. They're not able to realize that there are 663 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: certain areas where actually the left wing position is incredibly 664 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: popular and you would benefit from adopting that position. Now, 665 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: I do want to give some credit to the economic 666 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: portion of this speech, which I thought was well crafted. 667 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 5: I thought it emphasized. I thought it was good. I mean, 668 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 5: it was very like made in America. 669 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: It was very sort of like economic nationalists in a 670 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: way that I think lands in a real populist way. 671 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: He spent a lot of time talking about specific proposals 672 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: to help make housing more affordable, both for homeowners, aspiring homeowners, 673 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: and renters. He talked about using anti trust to go 674 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: after these big landlord companies that are basically rigging the 675 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: markets and use it. He didn't get into the whole 676 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: algorithm situation, but we actually talked about on the shows 677 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: using the Anti Trust division to try to crack down 678 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: on price fixing in the rental market, which is increased 679 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: a huge issue. Yeah, I thought there were some genuinely 680 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: good things there. It's hard for me, though, you know, 681 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: it's just hard for me to really give him credit 682 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: on any of this when Gaza and what's happening there 683 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: just loom so large over all of them. 684 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 3: What do you think, Ryan about Look what I think about. 685 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: This pound of flesh, like the ability for the left 686 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 2: exercise port. 687 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 4: I think fundamentally one problem is that the hard right 688 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 4: is so much bigger in the United States than the 689 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 4: hard left, like the or whatever you want to call them. Like, 690 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 4: just the structural and the material conditions that exist here 691 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 4: in the United States are do not, like, do not 692 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 4: set up a situation where you're going to have a 693 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 4: big left like you had one in the New Deal, 694 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 4: because you just came out of a great depression in 695 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 4: the US was not yet like the global empire, like 696 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 4: riding astride across the whole planet like and the the 697 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 4: success of the left out of the thirties and forties 698 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 4: was their own undoing and so they just don't have 699 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 4: the number. Like it's you know, you can do some 700 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 4: tactical things here or there, but you're you're gonna be. 701 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 3: You're gonna be. 702 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 4: But yeah, despite that, you did the great tragedy of 703 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 4: this genocide. Well not the great tragedy like it's many 704 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 4: layers down, but one of the tragedies of the genocide 705 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 4: that Biden is overseeing is that is is that it 706 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 4: has just stained his entire legacy of economic populism, which, 707 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 4: as Kyle was saying, like before, you know, before the speech, 708 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 4: he would. 709 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 3: Be defending, I would be defending you know there, there's 710 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 3: so much that you can say about it. 711 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 4: The the fact that prices jumped and are still high 712 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 4: and rent is still a huge problem is itself kind 713 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 4: of a cloud over everything else that he's done. 714 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 3: But everything else that he's done is not nothing. 715 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 4: Like low unemployment rate, you know, labor labor militancy, uh, 716 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 4: you know, cash in people's pockets, like the economy overall 717 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 4: in the last like three years a result of the 718 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 4: you know, the the kinds of things that the left 719 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 4: has been pushing for years. It is headed in the 720 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 4: right direction, but you're not going to find anybody who's 721 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 4: willing to like celebrate. 722 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, how much would I have in another 723 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: timeline without Gaza been talking about Sean Fain there and 724 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: the union wins and it's getting a call out and 725 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: you know all all of that. 726 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 5: But it's just like you know, it is. 727 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: It is an incredible tragedy because you know, before Gaza, 728 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: I was out there saying, listen, it's not just a 729 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: lesser to evils vote if you look just at the 730 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: anti trust and you look just at labor, just. 731 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 4: At wages, like wages now are growing faster than prices, 732 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 4: and they. 733 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 3: Have been like if you if you care about and 734 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 3: especially at the lower. 735 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 5: End, if you care about checking corporate power. 736 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: The people he put in place in key you know, 737 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: positions have done a great job, and they've been aggressive 738 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: and it's been groundbreaking. It's been a real break from 739 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: the Clinton Obama Democratic Party and obviously wildly better than 740 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: you know, Trump out a bunch of union busters in 741 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: at the NLRB and the antitrust was not doing anything 742 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: different than what was being done before. So those pieces 743 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: are undoubtedly better under Biden. You know, I don't think 744 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: that they've done a great job selling it or whatever. 745 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: It's long term, while you have a lot of pain 746 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: for people that is very present and very real right now. 747 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 1: And on the economic front, you know, I've long said 748 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: that dropping the economic pieces of build back better and 749 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: allowing all the COVID social safety net stuff to expire, 750 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that was a huge moral disaster. It was 751 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: a huge political disaster, and it's a big and I 752 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: think undersold part of why his economic approval ratings are 753 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: so incredibly, incredibly low. 754 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 5: I just wanted to mention. Jeff Stein flagged some. 755 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: Of the economic policy that was in the State of 756 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: the Union, highlighting manufacturing auto construction boom, which is real, 757 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: reducing drug costs by taking on big farming me most 758 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 1: kind of like they. 759 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 5: Did a little bit. 760 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: Two million new affordable homes five thousand dollars per year 761 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: for first time home buyers, universal preschool pelgrans, cutting student 762 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: dead expanding ACA subsidies. So, I mean, some of those 763 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: things are very neo lib but it is this kind 764 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: of like populist economic focus tips. Yeah, that would have 765 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: given people something to focus on, hold on, to highlight, 766 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 1: if not overshadowed by of course. 767 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 6: He started in Ukraine. I mean to your point, he 768 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 6: started in Ukraine, I can't. When we were listening to 769 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 6: him talk about housing, I was thinking to myself, like this, 770 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 6: if you had written this for the beginning, if you 771 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 6: had like really written this as an introductory part of 772 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 6: your speech. 773 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I kind of doubt myself on 774 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: this now though, Emily, because I would have said the 775 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: same thing. But that message of just like January sixth 776 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: and mag is a bunch of crazy weirdos. 777 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 5: It works, it works, Yeah, exactly. 778 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 2: People don't trust them on the economy. They're not going 779 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 2: to take credit for it. They haven't done enough of 780 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 2: the short term stuff. They don't trust them on that. 781 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 2: They're not willing to give you long term you know, 782 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 2: check boxes when you're getting screwed. 783 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 4: Do you think I think age hangs over the economy, 784 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 4: because it's like, all right, yeah, okay, I do like that. 785 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 3: Wages are going faster than inflation, et cetera. 786 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 4: But like, I don't trust this guy over the next 787 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 4: four or five years to like deliver more. 788 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 3: And I've talked about this before Kennedy. 789 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: I mean he had in terms of like the inexorables, 790 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 2: like he had the vigor, Like that was the whole thing. 791 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 3: That was why he was always like in a cocktail 792 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:22,399 Speaker 3: of drug. 793 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, but nobody knew it, Okay, Like people 794 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 2: didn't know he basically had Lake stage Parkinson's and would 795 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 2: have died if he made Presidence look sober. 796 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 3: So I do have to say this. We're going to 797 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 3: be transitioning soon. 798 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 2: I've flagged this before to our premium only live stream. 799 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 3: It will be available to premium members. 800 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: You have a few more minutes if you want to 801 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 2: sign up at Breaking points dot com. We'll be doing 802 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 2: a live Q and A which is on a separate 803 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 2: livestream that we've emailed to our premium subscribers. If you 804 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 2: want to be able to get access to that, guys 805 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 2: can put the graphic please up on the screen breakingpoints 806 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 2: dot Com. Very generous discount going on right now, State 807 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 2: of the Union, twenty five percent off there, so take 808 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 2: advantage of that. 809 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 3: We've got links everywhere and you can go and visit yourself. 810 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 2: So maybe last thoughts, I guess you've been saying any 811 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 2: everybody's for later some jams. 812 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 3: Well love, we'll see it's up today. It depends on 813 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 3: what they ask. 814 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 6: Should mentioned that Trump has been responding on. 815 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 3: Troops, truth, social that's right. 816 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 6: Presumptive nominee is of this week, he has been slamming 817 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 6: Biden for coughing the entire. 818 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 3: I mean it was weird. Like yeah, so like Trump. 819 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 6: The sort of master of the aesthetic, that's what it's interesting. 820 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 3: Joe Coffin. Joe Coffin was yes, in coffee joke often Joe, 821 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 3: I like. 822 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 5: Not bad, Ryan, that's not bad. 823 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 3: I might tweet that out. I might try. I may, 824 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 3: I may try and socialize that well. 825 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: I thought he was trying to take Hillary's old the 826 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: crooked Hillary thing. Give that to Joe, And I was like, 827 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: really recycling nicknames, now, come on, that. 828 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 3: Only works for Hunter. It doesn't work. That you tried, 829 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,959 Speaker 3: it doesn't work as well. So okay, last thoughts from everybody, Ryan, 830 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 3: what do you got? No, that's all I got that. 831 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 6: It wasn't a joke. It was a serious advice. 832 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: My last thought here is, you know, we had that 833 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 1: moment with the report that came out that was talking 834 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: about elderly gentleman for a memory when there was this 835 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: moment of panic, and as Recline is writing a piece 836 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: of The New York Times and Nate Silver is that 837 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: going in and you're you know, getting kind of a 838 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: little bit of a DC freak out goer and getting 839 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories about all maybe they're getting ready to slag 840 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: Commelando his placed or something like that, all of those murmurings. 841 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 5: I think he did enough in. 842 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 3: This speech that I agree with you. 843 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: It's unfortunately, you know, I mean, listen again, We've talked 844 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 1: a million times. The bar is really low, but I'm 845 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 1: sure on CNN they are over there selling him is 846 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: the greatest order of our time right now. 847 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 6: Alsina said, all questions are answered. 848 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 4: He's well, if I had a question and it would 849 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 4: have been answered, Yeah. 850 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 3: That's Joe. 851 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 2: I completely agree with you, Crystal. This is it the 852 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 2: Biden age discourse. They have enough. My prediction that I'll 853 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 2: try and hear is that they are going to try 854 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 2: and do as few debates with Trump as possible. We 855 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 2: would be lucky if we get one. And I think 856 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 2: this is exactly why he can have one shot, can 857 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 2: have one thing where you can read off. You can 858 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 2: have the note cards. Well, I've prepared, but three is 859 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,959 Speaker 2: just not going to cut it. Trump smart and trying 860 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 2: to pressure him and highlight that. But the proof from 861 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 2: this speech is the super Bowl strategy was correct. Don't 862 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 2: put him on the super Bowl. You play him once 863 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 2: you get you get get him pretty good thirty minutes 864 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 2: or so, and that's it, and you cut his ass off, 865 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 2: but let him out go out. 866 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 3: Does it works because people aren't stupid. 867 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,919 Speaker 2: It doesn't work because people aren't stupid, but they're gonna 868 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 2: look they work before you play the maggot, hann you 869 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 2: play this, you play the row versus weight hits, and 870 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 2: you just hope and pray in November. That's your only 871 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 2: possible strategy in dragging you through election. So that's that's 872 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 2: my prediction. My kind of closing thought on this, Emily. 873 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 6: My closing thought is I just I think there were 874 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 6: some moments that were genuinely really I don't want to 875 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 6: say unprecedent, because nothing is ever unprecedented in the United 876 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 6: States Congress, but there were moments that were unusual to 877 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 6: anyone who's watched The State of the Union on television, 878 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 6: which I think started with Harry Truman, the sort of 879 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 6: break into quorum, which again I don't have a problem with, 880 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 6: but that was fine, going back and forth. I think 881 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 6: all of that is going to overshadow the planned, scripted 882 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 6: rhetoric that came out of the White House that had 883 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 6: actually some real just from the perspective of political strategy, 884 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 6: some real highlights. They did a good job with some 885 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 6: of these lines. They did a good job talking about 886 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 6: some things. But I think because of those places he 887 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 6: went off script. He tried to interact with Marjorie Taylor Green, 888 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 6: he tried to go back and forth, chop it up 889 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 6: with people who were shouting in the audience, and in 890 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 6: the course of that he made some He had some gaffes. 891 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 6: He was coughing a lot. He said something about Moscow 892 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 6: at one point, getting drugs from Moscow. I think, honestly, 893 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 6: all of that is because we live in the viral 894 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 6: clips economy, going to overshadow their best efforts not to 895 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 6: not to have that happen, and because he decided to 896 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 6: go off script. 897 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 4: Well, for my final thought, I'll tell my old man's 898 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 4: story to your point. Back in twenty ten, I was 899 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 4: in the gallery when Joe Wilson yells you Lie. I 900 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 4: had just written a profile of Joe Wilson for Politico 901 00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 4: like a couple months you looked like and when he yelled, 902 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 4: he's a total back then, right right, yes, and the 903 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 4: whole press core it's like, who just yelled? 904 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 3: Who just yelled? Like? Because then you couldn't bring your devices. 905 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 4: I'm like Joe Wilson, and everyone in the gallery is like, 906 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,800 Speaker 4: who is Joe Wilson? 907 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 3: Read? Why did I profile him? 908 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 8: Uh? 909 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 4: I mean he had a whole bunch of kids serving 910 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 4: in a rag. Okay, I don't go go Google Joe Wilson. 911 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 4: I used to do feature profiles, all right. So here's 912 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,720 Speaker 4: what I'm being Premium guys. Premium Stream. There's a separate 913 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 4: stream for premium subscribers. If you sign up in the interim, 914 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 4: go and check we have emails and all of that. 915 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 2: You'll have a link. We're going to stop for like 916 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 2: maybe like two minutes or so. Everyone will take a. 917 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 3: Drink of water. Premium Chat. 918 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 2: What I'm going to ask is that you guys start 919 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 2: putting your questions into the box so that we can 920 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 2: have some immediately when we start going. But to the public, 921 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 2: thank you guys so much for watching. We really appreciate you. 922 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 2: I think we hit like twenty thousand or so at 923 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:03,720 Speaker 2: the top of year. 924 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 3: So it was pretty cool. Yeah, that's a lot of 925 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 3: That was a lot. Yeah, I think that. 926 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 2: Might be a record for US day at the Union Stream. 927 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 2: So three years here, Crystal has been great. 928 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 3: You know, it's kind of amazing. We started over there 929 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 3: in our pitdly little set. Now we're here. We're looking 930 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 3: at us. 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