WEBVTT - How Menstruation Works

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you should know, a production of I

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's Chuck and Jerry's here with us UM for oversight,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is stuff you should know. Just a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of dudes tucking menstruation. That's right, and it sounds totally

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<v Speaker 1>normal when you say it like that. It sounded like

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<v Speaker 1>the making copies guy. You signed it to me like

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<v Speaker 1>Troy McClure. Yeah, you're right, I am. I'm definitely more

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<v Speaker 1>right than you were. That's right, that's exactly right. That

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<v Speaker 1>was dead on. Actually you weren't even trying. Oh I

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<v Speaker 1>used to do Troy McClure back in the day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was one of my bits. Well you still got it, buddy. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, I think long time listeners will

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<v Speaker 1>have picked up Chuck that we're stalling right now. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>New listeners might be like, what are these guys doing

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<v Speaker 1>and talking about? I'm never listening to them again, But

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<v Speaker 1>hang on, wait, just chill out. We do this sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when we're taking on a topic that we're um

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<v Speaker 1>only equipped to understand as researchers. Yes, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good way to put it. We are researchers. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what we do. And anybody who researches something, um well

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<v Speaker 1>and with an open mind, I think is perfectly legitimate,

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<v Speaker 1>in a perfectly legitimate position to talk about whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>is carving out our territs right here, I guess so

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, but we're talking menstruation today. We are. And

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<v Speaker 1>another bit of just upfront knowledge that we want to

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<v Speaker 1>drop is, uh, we're gonna use different terms. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say girls, we're gonna say women. We're gonna say people

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<v Speaker 1>who men straight because we don't want to overlook the

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<v Speaker 1>trans community. And even though you know most websites you

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<v Speaker 1>go to, we'll still say girls and women. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of interchange words here and there to cover

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<v Speaker 1>all our bases and to be respectful of of everybody. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Another one will be men's straight towards we should just

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<v Speaker 1>say menstruators period. Didn't even mean that, wow, chuck, so

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<v Speaker 1>um yeah, I think that was really good to say.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not like, you know, I'm sure we'll fall

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<v Speaker 1>into women girls, um pretty frequently. Uh. And that's not

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<v Speaker 1>to say that we are um judge or critical of

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<v Speaker 1>the concept of men menstruating UM, it's just that it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fairly new concept to us and we're still, um,

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<v Speaker 1>we're still getting used to it. So please please accept

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<v Speaker 1>our apologies in advance if if we do that. And

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<v Speaker 1>also for our younger listeners, especially are the young girls

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<v Speaker 1>who listened to our show. You know, in addition to

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<v Speaker 1>our Puberty Female Puberty podcast, we did, we did male

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<v Speaker 1>Puberty two. Right, we did both. Yeah, we did both. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>this is something that you know, I think is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of anxiety comes with Uh, We'll go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>say the word monarchy, which is the first period, the

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<v Speaker 1>first menstruation cycle that someone can undergo. We I've used

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<v Speaker 1>that before. It's one of our favorite words from the

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<v Speaker 1>early days of the show, from I think the Totem

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<v Speaker 1>Pull episode. I think so because the Native Americans celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>the monarchy in the right monarchy, that's right. But especially

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<v Speaker 1>to those listeners, we just want you to know that, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we hope that you embrace this as a the wonder

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<v Speaker 1>of human biology that it is, because it's just an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing thing that happens, and uh, knowing more about it,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just powerful for little boys, little girls

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<v Speaker 1>across the gender spectrum. And men and grown men and

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<v Speaker 1>uh women alike. I suspect that of all those groups,

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<v Speaker 1>grown men are the most childish about it, probably and

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<v Speaker 1>probably know the least about it. M hmm. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're dying off slowly, but surely we're being replaced

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<v Speaker 1>by way cooler, smarter with it um people. So that's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll go away eventually. But what we're talking about is menstruation,

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<v Speaker 1>which is uh. And again we're gonna say some stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like four weeks is a menstrual cycle, a biological cycle,

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<v Speaker 1>but we know that there are wide ranges of times.

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<v Speaker 1>There are people who don't menstright at all, or whose

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<v Speaker 1>menstruation is occasional. Um. There are all sorts of reason

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<v Speaker 1>for all these things. So we're using a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>like averages and average terms here, um. So just know

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<v Speaker 1>that going in. But it's roughly takes place every four weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>And what is simply happening, which is amazing, is that

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<v Speaker 1>the lining of the uterus, uh, the endometrium is getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready to host an egg that is fertilized, and that

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<v Speaker 1>thing sheds, and with that shedding comes blood and become

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<v Speaker 1>in some tissue, and that's called men disease, and it

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<v Speaker 1>starts generally without monarchy anywhere from twelve to thirteen. It

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<v Speaker 1>ends generally at menopause somewhere around fifty to fifty two

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<v Speaker 1>fifty three. So that means that between the ages of

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<v Speaker 1>twelve to thirteen and the early fifties, someone will go

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<v Speaker 1>through an average of four hundred and fifty six cycles,

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<v Speaker 1>or about six point two years of their life. Isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that interesting? Wow, that's amazing nice math. Yeah, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of lifetime math I figured out. So um, I

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<v Speaker 1>think even people who have had um cycles, they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>reaching the end of their what do you say, four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty six fifty six cycles? Maybe they're on

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<v Speaker 1>four fifty five and they're like one more baby. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, if you're just going through monarchy, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually work like that. I'm just teasing. But my point

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<v Speaker 1>is that I think even people who menstrate and have

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<v Speaker 1>menstruated for years in decades don't necessarily know why women

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<v Speaker 1>men's stright in the first place. Why would a human

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<v Speaker 1>being men's stright? Um. There's practical reasons, which we'll get into,

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<v Speaker 1>but evolutionarily speaking, we don't fully understand it, and The

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<v Speaker 1>reason why we don't really understand is because so few

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<v Speaker 1>mammals actually men's strate. There's plenty of other adaptations for

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<v Speaker 1>getting an egg ready to be fertilized, and then what

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<v Speaker 1>happens if the egg doesn't give fertilized what you do

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<v Speaker 1>after that, But men's struation is is fairly rare in

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<v Speaker 1>the animal kingdom. Humans are one of just a handful

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<v Speaker 1>of bright, shiny um people. Yeah, they have companions in

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<v Speaker 1>the uh, some primates like the chimp or the large

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<v Speaker 1>headed capuchin, the vulvous fruit bat. Interestingly, Uh, there's a shrew,

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<v Speaker 1>an elephant, shrew and a mouse. Did you look those up?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, they're uh, and the spiny mouse. They

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<v Speaker 1>all men straight. Um. But most mammals undergo something called

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<v Speaker 1>an estrus psych goal. Uh. It could be a seasonal thing,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why you have things like mating season. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>In the case of some other mammals like cats, it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually or our friends squirrels, uh, friendly squirrels that we

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<v Speaker 1>just talked about. It's actually brought on by the act

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<v Speaker 1>of sex, which is really interesting and sort of makes sense. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it also makes sense. It's like, let's not let's

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<v Speaker 1>not get into anything before it's really time, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>that to me makes a tremendous amount of sense. And

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<v Speaker 1>the reason that there would be any kind of cycle

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<v Speaker 1>at all, whether it's an estra cycle or a menstrual cycle, um,

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<v Speaker 1>is because there's a really high energetic and metabolic costs

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<v Speaker 1>to keeping the uterus prepared to host a fertilized egg,

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<v Speaker 1>and that if you're an animal that constantly has a

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<v Speaker 1>uterus ready to accept an egg, you're going to expend

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<v Speaker 1>way more energy, way more of your metabolism um keeping

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<v Speaker 1>that uterus fluffy as they say sometimes and ready for

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<v Speaker 1>an egg, a fertilized egg, than an animal who just

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<v Speaker 1>does it once in a while or when it's triggered

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<v Speaker 1>by sex. So evolutionarily speaking, it makes sense for it

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<v Speaker 1>to be seasonal or activated by sex, or even a

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<v Speaker 1>monthly thing. Yeah, And I just that's something I never

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<v Speaker 1>thought about. I never stopped and thought, well, why can't

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<v Speaker 1>you just get pregnant any time evolutionarily speaking, because that

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<v Speaker 1>would seem like a big time advantage if you're trying to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, put people out in if your took took

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<v Speaker 1>and you're trying to help put people out there in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, right, But it does make a lot of sense,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've seen evidence in this like if someone and

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<v Speaker 1>like a developing nation maybe just you know, have like

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<v Speaker 1>extreme nutritional deficiencies, Uh, they may not menstruate at all

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<v Speaker 1>because their body like it extends that kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>that drastic of a I guess, just a workload on

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<v Speaker 1>the body that that's that's one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>can get rid of if you're malnourished. Yeah, malnourished. It

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<v Speaker 1>also pops up in the elite ath eleats because they

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<v Speaker 1>are exercising so much and also usually have such a

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<v Speaker 1>small amount of body fat. So there's like, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>your your body does like a body check every month,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, okay, are we equipped to do this?

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<v Speaker 1>And if not, okay, we'll just skip it. If so,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go through it. Yeah, And the really interesting thing

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<v Speaker 1>is we were talking about some of the mammals that

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<v Speaker 1>go through the extra cycle. They don't actually um bleed,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have an external shedding process. They re absorb

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<v Speaker 1>it and it is literally digested in the body by

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<v Speaker 1>enzymes that are there just to do that. So that

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<v Speaker 1>question is still there, like why would evolutionarily speaking, why

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<v Speaker 1>would the menstruation process to where you literally shed that

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<v Speaker 1>lining out of your body take place. And they're not

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<v Speaker 1>really sure why no, But there's theories. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>predominant ones up until the nineteen nineties. And after I

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<v Speaker 1>say this, you'll be like, you mean the eighteen nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll say again, the ninety nineties. They used to

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<v Speaker 1>think that the purpose of menstruation was to wash the

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<v Speaker 1>uterus out of pathogens that might have been introduced by

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<v Speaker 1>seamen during sex um. Until the nineteen nineties, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they thought that menstruation was four And then finally somebody

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<v Speaker 1>was like, let me, let me study this, and they did.

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<v Speaker 1>They conducted a study where they tested bacterial loads of

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<v Speaker 1>different phases um from a woman's uterus and found that

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<v Speaker 1>not that that's actually not the case at all, So

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<v Speaker 1>that one finally got discarded. It did, and whoever proposed

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<v Speaker 1>it to begin with, they're like, he's sure, Like, yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a Nirvana show. I'm trying to get to

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds good to me. They went Nirvana, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the ninety nineties. Yeah, that was kind of a dud.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I tried to bring forth the chuckle a

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<v Speaker 1>laugh or something, I can't do it like you. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing they thought might at least be related

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<v Speaker 1>to this is maybe the size of the animal, or

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<v Speaker 1>the size of the uterus in relation to the size

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<v Speaker 1>of the animal. But there's such a large range of

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<v Speaker 1>uterine size and the animal kingdom that do men stright

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<v Speaker 1>that they basically kind of toss that out as well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the reason why that was a theory, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, elephant, true, spiny mouse, what kind of stupid

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<v Speaker 1>theories that we've just very recently discovered the other animals

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<v Speaker 1>men straight. We didn't know that at all, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>why that theory was so longstanding. And then also they

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe it has to do with um, the way

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<v Speaker 1>the endometrium forms, or the fact that um, some animals

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<v Speaker 1>for um, carry their young in placenta. Those are still

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<v Speaker 1>the jury's out on them. But yeah, we don't really

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<v Speaker 1>have any idea of you know, what what menstruation is

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<v Speaker 1>actually for. We know what it does, but how did

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<v Speaker 1>it come along? And so it remains a beautiful mystery

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<v Speaker 1>of the springtime of womanhood. All right, should we take

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<v Speaker 1>a break and get into the nitty gritty, Yes, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be right back after this with details on menstruation. Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>No one can see me right now, but I'm holding

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<v Speaker 1>each elbow very tightly, and I didn't realize I was

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<v Speaker 1>even doing it. Like, I'm really anxious right now. We

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<v Speaker 1>got this, We did. We shouldn't get nervous about this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time we tackled something like this, we always get

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<v Speaker 1>great support and say, you guys do what you do,

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<v Speaker 1>which is, you know, research something. And it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>we're not serial killers yet we've talked about them. I

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<v Speaker 1>would hazard to say that almost all the things we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about we don't have experience with. No, No, definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not really anxious about that. What I'm anxious about

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<v Speaker 1>is screwing it up and giving a thirteen year old

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<v Speaker 1>some bad information or making it harder to understand them before,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, just I just want to be helpful

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<v Speaker 1>with it, and I'm anxious about not being as helpful

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<v Speaker 1>as we could be. That's what I'm worried about. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm totally with you, Um, and I think that this

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<v Speaker 1>nitty gritty part is straight ahead science, pretty easy, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's do it. Yes, but we have to say so.

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<v Speaker 1>Ed helped us with this one. Ed doesn't menstright either,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's a really good researcher too, and our hats

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<v Speaker 1>off for really um kind of diving into this and

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<v Speaker 1>wrapping his head around it. But he he points out

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<v Speaker 1>something that is not commonly seen, but I researched it

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's I guess, the more clinical and medical

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<v Speaker 1>you go, the deeper into it, the more it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>apparent that the menstrual cycle is actually what we think

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<v Speaker 1>of the menstrual cycle is actually a couple of different cycles.

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<v Speaker 1>And Ed did the clinical way and likely broke it

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<v Speaker 1>out into these two different cycles that are happening simultaneously

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<v Speaker 1>into the same end. Right. So we're talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>ovarian cycle and the men and the menstrual cycle. And

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, generally, like when you think about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a period or something, you think about a week or

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<v Speaker 1>so in someone's life, but it's really it's a four

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<v Speaker 1>week cycle and each part is triggered by the release

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<v Speaker 1>of hormones and it's sort of always going on, and

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<v Speaker 1>these two different cycles are sort of working with each

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<v Speaker 1>other to you know, to get ready to have a

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<v Speaker 1>baby basically. Yeah, And an easy way to remember it

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<v Speaker 1>or think about it that I kind of stumbled upon

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<v Speaker 1>is that the menstrual cycle gets the uterus ready for

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<v Speaker 1>an egg, and the um ovulation cycle gets the egg

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<v Speaker 1>ready for the uterus. What a beautiful dance, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Well, yeah, I think it's in credit to

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<v Speaker 1>you that I was biology and nature. But sure, well

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<v Speaker 1>I consider myself God I created all. Uh. So in

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<v Speaker 1>this case, we're gonna describe it. And I think ed

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<v Speaker 1>does a is a does a good job of where

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<v Speaker 1>he places this in the cycle as a listener or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in this case as readers. But we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>start at the midpoint of the cycle, um, right after

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<v Speaker 1>the period has stopped. And at this point, like we

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<v Speaker 1>said that the uterus, uh, the lining has been shed.

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<v Speaker 1>That would mean it's at its thinnest point at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the beginning of what is known as

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<v Speaker 1>the proliferative phase. Yeah, the proliferative phase of the menstrual cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>UM is. The big star of that is a hormone

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<v Speaker 1>called estrati all, which says, hey, endometrium, get a little thicker,

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<v Speaker 1>um double in size. Let's um, how about we build

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<v Speaker 1>some new arteries and blood vessels called spiral arteries. To

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<v Speaker 1>bring blood to all this new two issue that's being developed. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>New structures are are being built. The cervical mucus normally

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<v Speaker 1>kind of yeah or chill out, I think is a

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<v Speaker 1>way to put it. UM. The cervical mucus usually has

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<v Speaker 1>a pH of two point eight to four point five

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<v Speaker 1>or sorry, three point eight to four point five, which

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<v Speaker 1>is very acidic um. And the pH raises more towards neutral,

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<v Speaker 1>like around seven during this time, which makes the um

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<v Speaker 1>the uterus much more hospitable as sperm because sperm thrive

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<v Speaker 1>in about a seven pH they would die very quickly

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<v Speaker 1>in the normal acidity of the of the uterus. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's like this the process that's it's like the very

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the phase of prepping the uterus for an egg.

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<v Speaker 1>If it happens, that's right. Uh. And while this is happening,

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<v Speaker 1>the ovarian cycle kicks in with a folicular phase. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>There are two ovaries and they have hundreds and hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of thousands of eggs within these little sacks called follicles,

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<v Speaker 1>and the hormones control all this, like we said, So

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, it's a follicle stimulating hormone is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>allow a few follicles to mature, and eventually most of

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<v Speaker 1>them will die off and then there will be one

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<v Speaker 1>follicle left. Uh. That's in to rule them all, that's right,

0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.359
<v Speaker 1>want to rule them all. And this last about ten

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<v Speaker 1>to fourteen days. Um, it's a little bit pre the proliferative. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's such a hard word for me. Proliferative phase the

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<v Speaker 1>menstrual cycle, and that's also about tend to fourteen days.

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<v Speaker 1>So as you can see, it's all sort of kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sinking up. Yeah. I saw. The follicular phase actually

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<v Speaker 1>begins on day one of the menstrul phase, so it

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<v Speaker 1>it has a couple up to maybe five or so

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<v Speaker 1>days headstart on the proliferative phase. But the two work

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<v Speaker 1>in conjunction. Right, eggs starting to get ready, the endometrium

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<v Speaker 1>or the use of the uterus is starting to get

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<v Speaker 1>ready to that's right. Now. We move on to two

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<v Speaker 1>more fun phases with fun names, uh, the luteal phase

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<v Speaker 1>in the case of the ovarian cycle, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>secretory or secretory phase. I would say secretory me to uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's part of the menstrual cycle. Yeah, and they

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<v Speaker 1>call um the secretory phase. Um. That because no there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of secretions going on. And this is when

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<v Speaker 1>like those initial preparations that were begun in the proliferate

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<v Speaker 1>proliferateory phase, proliferative phase, all those preparations that were like

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<v Speaker 1>the very basic structure of the endometrium that was being

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<v Speaker 1>developed really starts to fill out. And I said, um,

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<v Speaker 1>the womb is frequently referred to as being fluffy. At

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<v Speaker 1>this time, it's maybe doubled in size. It's much more

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<v Speaker 1>hospitable to an egg. And then the reason it's called

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<v Speaker 1>the secretory phases. The chemicals that are being secreted are

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of like proteins and hormones and other things

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<v Speaker 1>that will sustain the carbohydrates too, that will sustain an egg.

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<v Speaker 1>If fertilized egg shows up in your uterus, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of secretions are being fed into your endometrium so

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<v Speaker 1>that the egg will be nourished as it grows into

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<v Speaker 1>a little bouncing baby. That's right, uh, back to the

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<v Speaker 1>luteal phase. At this point, the follicle is going to

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<v Speaker 1>rupture and this is called ovulation. It's when the egg

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<v Speaker 1>is released and the egg travels down that fallopian tube

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<v Speaker 1>towards the uterus, and if it becomes fertilized, it's you know, ideally, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if everything goes right and the wide end of the

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<v Speaker 1>fallopian tube where it meets the uterus, you can also

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<v Speaker 1>undergo what's called an ep topic pregnancy. That's when it

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<v Speaker 1>implants on the outside of the uterus. Uh. Emily and

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<v Speaker 1>I went through one of these with one of our miscarriages.

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<v Speaker 1>That leads to a miscarriage. It's very very sad thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but also quite common. Uh. At some point we should

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<v Speaker 1>probably do a whole episode on miscarriages, because that is

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<v Speaker 1>something that people don't talk nearly enough about. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>it happens like the time, and it's just not the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing that people, you know, bring up with

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<v Speaker 1>one another. But once it is brought up among friends

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<v Speaker 1>and family, more people start saying, Oh, yeah, I had one,

0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I had to I had three. Uh. And it's all

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<v Speaker 1>very sad stuff. So we'll cover that at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wouldn't have the daughter I have now had

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<v Speaker 1>our life not taken us in that direction. So I

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<v Speaker 1>can't imagine things any other way. You know. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>Garth Brooks said, Chuck, some of God's greatest gifts are

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<v Speaker 1>unanswered prayers. Are you sure that one? Chris Gaines Chris

0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Kaines covered that brook song even head spinning dose of

0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:41.720
<v Speaker 1>postmodern irony. But at this point, if everything is going well,

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<v Speaker 1>you have the egg again at the wide end of

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<v Speaker 1>the fallopian tube. Yeah, so that's where it's fertilized. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's fertilized, it goes poop and falls into the uterus

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<v Speaker 1>where it sticks to the endometrium and gets secreted all

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<v Speaker 1>over and nourished and fed with lots of carbohydrates and proteins,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's horn one's going berserk and the pregnancy begins.

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<v Speaker 1>That's if the egg is successfully fertilized. And we should

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<v Speaker 1>say that ovulation phase is the shortest phase of this

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<v Speaker 1>whole cycle. It lasts only twenty four hours. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>long you have for your egg to become fertilized into

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<v Speaker 1>a blast assist is what they call it. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>very unromantic name for a fertilized egg, but that's that um.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've got twenty four hours and if that doesn't happen,

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<v Speaker 1>the the luteal phase keeps going. So you've got that

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<v Speaker 1>that follicle that the egg came out of that turns

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<v Speaker 1>into like this kind of conductor that's conducting the symphony

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<v Speaker 1>that's going on in your uterus, that's making it just

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<v Speaker 1>more and more hospitable for a fertilized egg if it

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<v Speaker 1>shows up. So the egg has twenty four hours, but

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<v Speaker 1>the lootal phase keeps going on well beyond that twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hours. It doesn't know immediately that there's um there,

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<v Speaker 1>like the fertilized egg isn't coming, so it keeps preparing

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<v Speaker 1>for it as if it's going to for many days

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<v Speaker 1>I think, um something like a week and a half

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<v Speaker 1>the louteal phase lasts, and then if actually they realize

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<v Speaker 1>that the fertilized egg isn't gonna show up, and so

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<v Speaker 1>that follicle that's a conductor, it's putting out um progesterone

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly just stops putting out progesterone, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a huge imbalance between your progesterone levels and

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<v Speaker 1>your estrogen levels, and it can make you extraordinarily irritable, sad, anxious,

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<v Speaker 1>and a bunch of other stuff just a few days

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<v Speaker 1>before your actual period starts. And that's what they call

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<v Speaker 1>pre menstrual syndrome a K. A p MS. That's right. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a very normal thing to happen. Uh. This

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<v Speaker 1>is something that we maybe could uh we could probably

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<v Speaker 1>get a whole episode out of this. Uh. It can

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<v Speaker 1>be very severe in some cases and be very disruptive

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<v Speaker 1>in some cases. Uh. And and when that is the case,

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<v Speaker 1>it's called pre menstrul dysphoric disorder. Uh. And it's funny,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Emily and I were talking about menstruation, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was researching this, and she just got back

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<v Speaker 1>from the doctor and they told her flax seed is

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<v Speaker 1>uh can really aid with PMS symptoms. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's like here we are. You know, she's cruising up

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<v Speaker 1>towards fifty years old, and it's you know, just learning

0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 1>this stuff about flax seeds. So there's always room to learn,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, is what I'm saying. Um, you said that

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<v Speaker 1>the progesterone and estrogen are gonna cease to be produced

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, But what does happen is a substance

0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:36.960
<v Speaker 1>called prostaglandin is gonna come along and it's gonna constrict

0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:41.240
<v Speaker 1>all those spiral arteries that made those connections to get

0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:43.960
<v Speaker 1>ready for you know, their big scene and that's going

0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 1>to cause them to tear themselves apart, and it's gonna basically,

0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:50.560
<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna get the blood flow to the endometrium

0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:53.439
<v Speaker 1>that you had going on, So it's gonna start breaking

0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 1>down away from the uterine wall. And so that that

0:23:57.320 --> 0:24:00.520
<v Speaker 1>is the minsies, that is the menstruation, and that's what's happening.

0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Is aos blood vessels, that's where the blood comes from,

0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 1>right um. And then the tissue is your actual endometrium,

0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:10.119
<v Speaker 1>that lining of your uterus um that was built up

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:14.959
<v Speaker 1>into like this fluffy um fertilized egg loving habitat. Uh.

0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:18.159
<v Speaker 1>That's no longer needed because the fertilized egg never showed up,

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:20.480
<v Speaker 1>So you got to get it out somewhere. And again,

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:24.200
<v Speaker 1>animals that go through estrus they reabsorbed this. UH. Animals

0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:26.680
<v Speaker 1>that men's stright get rid of it. They discharge it.

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:28.680
<v Speaker 1>And the reason why is because if you didn't, that

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:31.399
<v Speaker 1>stuff would build up awfully quick over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>even just the first year, you started to have periods.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, as we'll see, UH, it could cause you

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:39.720
<v Speaker 1>a whole host of health problems. So it's actually really

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:44.119
<v Speaker 1>good and really smart evolutionarily speaking and biologically speaking to

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<v Speaker 1>have um the menstruation phase of the menstrual cycle. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things with that endometrium that I saw, chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>it can come out almost intact as a whole, like

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<v Speaker 1>it can come out in the shape of the uterus,

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<v Speaker 1>like the whole lining just comes out as in as

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<v Speaker 1>in one chunk. It's very rare, but if you go

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<v Speaker 1>look on the internet, it's actually a real thing. They're

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<v Speaker 1>called decidual casts, like a cast of something, um, not

0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>a not a cast of like a play, a cast

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:17.879
<v Speaker 1>of like like you'd make of a statue. All right,

0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:22.359
<v Speaker 1>So I mean that's that's it in a nutshell, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say even more than a nutshell, Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>several nutshells worth, uh acorn squash shell. I yeah, I

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:32.959
<v Speaker 1>think that's good. But we should say that you wouldn't

0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:35.440
<v Speaker 1>need an acorn squash shell to hold all of the

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:38.360
<v Speaker 1>blood that comes out, because typically when you go through

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 1>the menstrual phase of the menstruation phase of the menstrual cycle,

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<v Speaker 1>what you call your period, usually it's only results in

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<v Speaker 1>about five or six tablespoons of blood over the course

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:51.359
<v Speaker 1>of like five to seven days, that's right. But it

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 1>can come in inconvenient times, people can be caught off guard. Uh,

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:58.320
<v Speaker 1>And we'll talk about all that stuff, but um, first

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into some of the disorders and problems that

0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:04.359
<v Speaker 1>can happen with the menstrual cycle, because it can be

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:07.680
<v Speaker 1>a very finicky thing. Um. If if you are someone

0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>who has just a super regular, very um, you know,

0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 1>straightforward menstrual cycle, then you should count yourself lucky. Because

0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:20.199
<v Speaker 1>it can go in all sorts of different ways. Uh.

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 1>There's one way you can go called dysmenorrhea, and these

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:28.879
<v Speaker 1>are cramps. Basically that there changes to the uterus that

0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:32.640
<v Speaker 1>can cause these muscle contractions, and that cramping is very

0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:35.440
<v Speaker 1>normal and I think most people who menstrate have some

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 1>amount of cramping generally, but it can get really severe

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>and also, uh, as with other things, very disabling and disruptive. Right.

0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 1>There's also um a man a rhea, which is where

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 1>you just don't menstrate when you should be menstruating, at

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:55.399
<v Speaker 1>least biologically speaking. Right. So they say that there's two kinds.

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Primary man arhea is after a girl who has turned

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 1>age five teen still hasn't had her first period, that's

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:06.240
<v Speaker 1>primary a manorrhea. And then um, a woman who has

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 1>had periods regularly before and then all of a sudden

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>misses three of them. And we should say, who is

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 1>also not pregnant at the time. UM, that would be

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:19.159
<v Speaker 1>secondary men a man aihea, and both of them are

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 1>nothing necessarily to be super scared about or anything, but

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:24.440
<v Speaker 1>they're probably something you would want to go talk to

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 1>your guynecologist about. UM. One other thing, well, a bunch

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:32.639
<v Speaker 1>of other things that can cause a man aihea to UM.

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, UM, elite athletes get it from too

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 1>much exercise and not enough body fat. You can be

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 1>malnourished for whatever reason, or maybe have an eating disorder

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:46.400
<v Speaker 1>that causes you malnourishment. Stress can do it. UM. Your

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:49.200
<v Speaker 1>doctor might say, I think you're sniffing too much cocaine.

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 1>That can definitely bring on a manorrhea. UM. There's a

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:54.439
<v Speaker 1>lot of lifestyle changes that you can make that are

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 1>probably fairly easy. UM. That would that would bring your

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:02.920
<v Speaker 1>period back in if you want that kind of thing, right, Uh,

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk about it. But birth control pills are

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 1>sometimes people get on birth control pills to regulate their

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 1>period and it really has less to do with getting

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 1>pregnant or not. Yeah, So what else is there menorasia minoragia.

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:23.119
<v Speaker 1>I heard, and you know, I've looked it up. But again,

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:26.680
<v Speaker 1>with these pronunciations sometimes that you'll get three different ones,

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 1>so it's kind of frustrating. But I saw or heard

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 1>rather uh miner agia. Okay, you're gonna go with minora gia. Well,

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 1>this is essentially heavy flow, right, yes, And again usually

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 1>you're looking at what three to five table spoons of

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 1>blood that comes out again over the course of five

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>to seven days on average. That is that is not

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>There plenty of people who men straight out there who

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 1>are like, um, yeah, like quadruple that or whatever. Um.

0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 1>There are there are people who have heavy bleeding um

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>and either it's they bleed for longer, like beyond seven

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>days is considered menorasia um or. If you apparently soak

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 1>five sanitary products a day, or you soak more two

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>or more in two hours, you definitely have minorasia. And

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>the two or more in two hours actually means you

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 1>want to go to the emergency room because you're losing blood.

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Don't forget. And there's all sorts of things that can

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 1>happen when you're um blood levels drop like um iron

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 1>deficiencies like anemia, um, all sorts of terrible stuff. So

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>you want to go to the e er. If you're

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 1>bleeding that often or that much, Yeah, you're probably passing

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>more clots as well, and you're probably also going to

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>be having much more severe cramps if you're undergoing menorasia.

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Sounds no fun. It does sound no fun. And I

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:55.479
<v Speaker 1>guess we should talk about dealing with periods. I mean,

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 1>that's all part of it, right, Or should we take

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 1>a break and do that? Yeah, I say we take

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 1>a break. Can we come back? Um? Uh? All fists

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 1>and elbows talking about dealing with periods. All right, let's

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 1>do it all right? Uh. We talked a little bit

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>and talked a little bit about in the beginning about

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 1>just getting past monarchy can be very anxiety inducing. Getting

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>into the world of menstruation for someone at the age

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>of thirteen or so can be very anxiety inducing. Um.

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 1>But it's again, it's a wonder of nature. It's not unusual,

0:30:56.560 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 1>it's not gross, it's not weird. Uh. Um. At the

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 1>same time, it is blood coming out of your body.

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 1>So it's something that uh, you want to you know,

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 1>take care of. You don't want to. I read that, God,

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember the statistic of the amount of ruined

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 1>underwear that a person goes through in their lifetime of

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>menstruation and just the simple cost of that. So if

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 1>for no other reason than that, uh, and you know,

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 1>health and sanitation, it's something that you're gonna want to

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 1>take care of with what's called a sanitary product. Yeah,

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>And from what I can tell, the desire and the

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>drive to use sanitary products UM is almost innate to

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:40.800
<v Speaker 1>where it's, like you said, there's nothing to be ashamed of,

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 1>but at the same time, you will want to use

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the sanitary products so much so that I've seen it

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 1>described as a human right. Access to sanitary products for

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>menstruation is considered a human right. Everyone should have it

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 1>because if you don't have access to them, it can

0:31:56.400 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 1>induce so many hits to your well being, like anxiety, UM,

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>hits to your social life, like you might stay home

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:06.760
<v Speaker 1>from work, you just you you just don't want to

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 1>leave your house or interact with people. You just don't

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 1>feel comfortable doing that because you have no protection between

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>your period and the rest of the world, which is

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 1>one of the big points, one of the main points

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:20.959
<v Speaker 1>of sanitary products in the first place. Yeah, I mean,

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 1>it's an evolutionary thing. If you see your body bleeding,

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>you either want to stop the bleeding or if you can't,

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>you are going to be wiping it off your arm

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 1>or your leg or wherever it's coming out, right exactly,

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 1>and nobody wants that, and most of all the person

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>who's menstruating. That's right. There are many different ways to

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>deal with this. I think most people, um sort of

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 1>probably experiment around until they find something they like or

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 1>can at least tolerate. Um. I think the word like

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 1>it is probably not the right word to use there.

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I think so. I mean, there's definitely

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 1>like a fit to it, you know, I think that

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 1>they can you can feel reassured by it. Maybe, yeah,

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean absolutely in that kind of way. But I

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 1>don't think any of them or any kind of picnic

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>to deal with, Okay, you know what I'm saying. So

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the one that you tolerate best, in that you deal

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>with the best, I think, is probably what you're going

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>to end up going with after you kind of try

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 1>different things out. Um. One of them is a menstrual cloth.

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 1>This is sort of the non disposable diaper of the

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>sanitary product world in that it is fabric that is

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 1>washed and rewashed and re used again. Um, you're probably

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 1>not gonna see this use very often in you know,

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>developed nations. It's mainly in places that are poverty stricken

0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>or in an emergency, or if there's like a refugee

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 1>crisis going on. Right. Um, If you take that menstrual

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 1>cloth and you add wings to it, um, so that

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 1>it stays fast into the underwear, what you have is

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 1>a reusable pad basically, And with both of them, you

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>can actually remove them after they become saturated, wash them

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>out really really well, and then reuse them so they're reusable.

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:09.800
<v Speaker 1>And as because they were usable, reusable pads in particular,

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 1>starting to see an upticking use in countries like the

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:17.799
<v Speaker 1>United States because environmentally speaking, their way preferable to things

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>like disposable pads and tampons. You also have the disposable

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 1>pad and the tampon. These are the two, um, I

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:27.439
<v Speaker 1>think the two still to the two most common used

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 1>in the US. A pad is gonna, you know, have

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 1>some absorbent material, there's gonna be some plastics in there,

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 1>there will be an adhesive to hold it in place

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 1>in the underwear. These like I said, are disposable. Um.

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Along with the tampon, which is a cylinder, it's also absorbent.

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>This is inserted into the vagina and is gonna soak

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 1>up that menstrual blood on the insite before it actually

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>leaves the body. UM And again obviously disposable. And we'll

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.840
<v Speaker 1>talk about toxic chuck syndro them in one second. But

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I did a little calculating, uh, or actually I went

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 1>to websites that did the calculating formula because we could

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 1>get it wrong. And I was just wondering about costs,

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 1>like we we hear about the the pink tax. Isn't

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 1>that what it's called? Which is just sort of the

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 1>amount of money that uh, that women pay over their

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 1>lifetime and for stuff like this and other things that

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 1>men don't have to pay for. Uh. And I think

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 1>that they said for tampons, you're looking at close to

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:34.919
<v Speaker 1>two thousand dollars for a lifetime, pads about forty seven

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:39.720
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars dollars for a lifetime. UM, Far and away,

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 1>the the the best deal going is the minstrel cup.

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:48.359
<v Speaker 1>This is a sort of like a bell shaped cup

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 1>that's flexible. It's usually like silicone and this is reusable.

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 1>It's it's washed through and I think you're supposed to

0:35:56.280 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 1>boil it like once a month. That's about You're still

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 1>not going to use that one for your whole life,

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 1>but they say about eighty bucks maybe over your life.

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 1>And there are also minstrel discs, and the difference between

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 1>a menstrel disc and I think that they're newer than

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:14.800
<v Speaker 1>minstrel cups if I'm not mistaken. But a cup sits

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:18.760
<v Speaker 1>in the vagina below the cervix UH and extends into

0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>the canal um. It depends on the brand, of course,

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 1>but the disc UH fits back into the vaginal fornix,

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 1>which is where your cervical canal meets your cervix. Thank

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 1>you healthline dot com for that direct quote. Very nice.

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.799
<v Speaker 1>Menstrel cups they're usually made of like silicone, and yeah,

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 1>you can. I saw that you use them for about

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 1>two years before you need to get another one. They're

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 1>also considered fairly green, especially considered compared to pads and tampons,

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:51.880
<v Speaker 1>But like you said, pads and tampons remain far and

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:55.920
<v Speaker 1>away the most popular sanitary products in the United States,

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:59.840
<v Speaker 1>so much so Chuck that in the same paragraph, I

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 1>saw that six of Americans use pads while for use tampons,

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 1>which means that there's a hundred and four percent Americans

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:16.759
<v Speaker 1>out there who men straight. In the same paragraph this

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't from like two different sources either. The other

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:21.840
<v Speaker 1>thing I did want to mention if Alan was interesting,

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 1>is we didn't get into too much history here, but

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>apparently in ancient Rome they use wool uh in Africa

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:31.360
<v Speaker 1>they rolled up grasses sort of like a tampon, and

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:35.800
<v Speaker 1>they used home about Hawaii ferns and then beautiful in

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 1>a way, I think, so, yeah, it sounds like I

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 1>would hope it's like very pleasant and not like not pleasant.

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, ferns I saw that. I wouldn't think they

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 1>be very absorbent, but I guess I don't know. I

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:53.359
<v Speaker 1>guess it's better than nothing. Who knows. Um. There's also

0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 1>hormonal birth control or the birth control pill, which we

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 1>did an entire episode on a while back, and you

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 1>can actually prevent menstruation on birth control pills. UH if

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't do don't eat the sugar pills or placebo

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 1>pills that fill up the week at the end of

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 1>the pill pack. If you just jump right into your

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 1>next birth control pill immediately you want mens stright. And

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>the reason why is because those hormonal pills keep your

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 1>estrogen levels nice and even so there's no spike, and

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:28.960
<v Speaker 1>if there's no spike and estrogen levels, there's no um.

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:32.360
<v Speaker 1>There's no signal to trigger the follicular phase or the

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:35.200
<v Speaker 1>luteal phase, because both of those phases, which are really

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:40.440
<v Speaker 1>important in dropping an egg um are are triggered by estrogen.

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:43.239
<v Speaker 1>So if there's no estrogen spike, there's no egg that's

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:47.719
<v Speaker 1>going to come out of the um the follicles. Very interesting. Yeah,

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure we talked birth control right, I'm sure we

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:55.359
<v Speaker 1>had to too. Yeah, but apparently they've they've decided now

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 1>once and for all that it's totally if you're not

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:00.800
<v Speaker 1>trying to get pregnant, you you could just stay on

0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 1>birth control um constantly and never have a period if

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:09.719
<v Speaker 1>you didn't want to. And from everything that's guynecologists in

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:13.759
<v Speaker 1>biologists can tell there's not really any ill effects that

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:18.120
<v Speaker 1>come out of that. It's supposedly safe to just do. Uh. Well,

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 1>a minute ago, we mentioned toxic shock syndrome with their

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:24.400
<v Speaker 1>promise to go back to it, and this is something

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 1>that can happen if you leave a tampon in too long. Uh.

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:33.800
<v Speaker 1>It is a pretty rough bacterial infection, uh. And it

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 1>can include you know, dizziness, vomiting, diarrhea, It can include

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 1>organ failure and death. And it is a very specific

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 1>toxic staff bacteria that can really grow and flourish in

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 1>the fibers of a tampon. And this has led you

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:55.360
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of people, especially UM, you know in politics,

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:58.160
<v Speaker 1>women in Congress, to say, hey, you know, what these

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:03.360
<v Speaker 1>tampons are all have is proprietary uh constructions, and what

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 1>goes into a tampon, and we need to know, like

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:10.320
<v Speaker 1>there needs to be more transparency here of what what

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 1>is in these things. I mean, it's generally thought to

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 1>be like cotton and rayon and quote synthetic fibers, but

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 1>like I said, each one is proprietary, so they don't

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 1>release the ingredients, and these bills just repeatedly die in

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 1>uh you know, die on the floor, and to spend

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:30.880
<v Speaker 1>years and years and still haven't gotten through. I don't think, right, No,

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 1>that's absolutely the case. UM. Supposedly, in response, the UM,

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>like the pads and tampon makers have started to release

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:43.440
<v Speaker 1>more information about what goes into their products on their websites,

0:40:43.880 --> 0:40:46.839
<v Speaker 1>but they also still point to the f d a UM.

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:48.880
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people don't realize this, but tampons are

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 1>regulated as a medical device in the United States, which

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 1>means the f D a UH supposedly tests them, verifies

0:40:57.160 --> 0:41:00.440
<v Speaker 1>their safety, UM, and make sure that the stuff that's

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 1>being sold in the US is fully safe. Again, ostensibly,

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 1>we've done plenty of episodes about how the FDA has

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:09.520
<v Speaker 1>dropped the ball here there UM, but there there is

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:13.359
<v Speaker 1>still kind of this like ongoing struggle to find out

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:18.520
<v Speaker 1>exactly what is in tampons and UM and pads UM.

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:22.560
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, again, the FDA regulates tampons at least so UM.

0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I find that curious. But I think the reason why

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 1>they got into it, Chuck, was UM from that toxic

0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 1>shock syndrome and realizing that that staff can grow on

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:34.399
<v Speaker 1>the fibers of the tampon. And I think that's when

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:38.280
<v Speaker 1>the FDA got involved and started claiming domain over tampons

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:42.959
<v Speaker 1>in particular. Interesting UM and then Chuck, we talked about

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:46.480
<v Speaker 1>all these different UM sanitary products again, which is what

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:51.239
<v Speaker 1>they're called UM. And even if you use them, there

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:54.799
<v Speaker 1>can be times where they just malfunction or don't work

0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 1>or it wasn't in right or who who, however you

0:41:57.560 --> 0:42:00.480
<v Speaker 1>want to put it. And accidents happen. And I think

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 1>if you are a teenager in high school and this

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:06.319
<v Speaker 1>happens to you, you probably feel that your life is over.

0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 1>And I just want to take a moment to assure

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:13.040
<v Speaker 1>you that, as embarrassing as that probably is for you, UM,

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>your life is not over. Eventually, it's going to become

0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 1>something that you laugh about, make fun of, UM, and

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 1>you will get past. So please don't let that. Don't

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:23.959
<v Speaker 1>feel like that's going to frame the rest of your life,

0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:27.440
<v Speaker 1>even though it does feel like it now of course. Uh.

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:30.400
<v Speaker 1>And you know that kind of leads us to uh,

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 1>just sort of the culture around it period, not only

0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:37.239
<v Speaker 1>here in the United States, but worldwide, because in some

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:43.239
<v Speaker 1>countries it is UM. It's really awful how menstruation is

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 1>treated and how people can be ostracized for menstruating or

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:51.360
<v Speaker 1>even if they might be menstruating. I think Ed points

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:55.120
<v Speaker 1>out that the k h o I, the coy people, UM,

0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:59.399
<v Speaker 1>they eat their meals separated by gender just in case

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 1>someone might be menstruating. Yeah, those are the people from

0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 1>the gods, must be crazy from the Kalahari. Um. Yeah,

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 1>so there's like that's a really good example of a

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:15.840
<v Speaker 1>very ingrained social taboo UM against menstruation that you find

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 1>in um undeveloped or less developed cultures. And you know,

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:21.400
<v Speaker 1>those of us in the West tend to be like,

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:24.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's so undeveloped. Of course there's a weird

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 1>social taboo. But we should not judge so fast, because

0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 1>it was not very long ago that UM. Europe had

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 1>its own well and grained social taboos against menstruation as well, right, Yeah,

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:39.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean we're talking you know, late eighteen hundreds, which

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:43.560
<v Speaker 1>is not that long ago. Uh. France, which you would

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 1>think is a very advanced country, they barred women who

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:50.120
<v Speaker 1>are menstruating from working at food production jobs, like if

0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 1>you're a winemaker, you had to take off and not

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:55.799
<v Speaker 1>work and therefore not get paid when you were menstruating.

0:43:56.320 --> 0:43:58.680
<v Speaker 1>And as late as the eighteen nineties in Britain even

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:02.239
<v Speaker 1>there were doctors that refused to perform surgeries on women

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 1>who are menstruating. Right, And so I mean there's like

0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 1>reasons behind this. I think part of it is just

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 1>simple UM misogyny, UM, just just a way to to

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:21.239
<v Speaker 1>keep women UM feeling ashamed, UM, feeling controlled by society. UM.

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a big part of it. And then

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 1>also definitely tied into it is the idea, I mean,

0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:29.600
<v Speaker 1>there's blood, and you know humans are just hardwired to

0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 1>not be comfortable at the sight of blood or want

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:34.320
<v Speaker 1>to go toward it or anything like that, you know.

0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 1>So I think those combined probably at least partially explained

0:44:39.080 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 1>where some of these social taboos came from and how

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:45.360
<v Speaker 1>they've remained for so long. Yeah, and you know this

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 1>is uh, there are some countries that actually celebrate it.

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 1>We did talk about the monarchy being celebrated in certain

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Native American cultures. There are other um, there are other

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:58.560
<v Speaker 1>countries where they really take care of women who are menstruating,

0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:02.359
<v Speaker 1>whether it's UM. Like in Ghana, menstruating women have an

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:05.640
<v Speaker 1>umbrella that they sit under, in little tints that they

0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 1>sit under so they can at least be in the

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:10.760
<v Speaker 1>shade when they're having their period. And you found another

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:14.480
<v Speaker 1>country too that did something similar, right, Well, it was

0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:19.440
<v Speaker 1>a Native American indigenous group, the Ojibwe, and they actually

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:23.760
<v Speaker 1>they consider women um who are menstruating actually on their period,

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 1>in that phase of their menstrual cycle. As being spiritually powerful,

0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:30.840
<v Speaker 1>like this is a time where um, they might have

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:36.279
<v Speaker 1>visions UM where they they usually use it to self

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:40.200
<v Speaker 1>reflect or to learn from elders. And they actually would

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:44.640
<v Speaker 1>seclude women, um who were menstruating on their period. They

0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 1>would put them in like these little houses that were

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 1>purpose built for it. But it wasn't to be like,

0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:52.320
<v Speaker 1>oh good away from us. It was like, you're in

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:56.360
<v Speaker 1>a really um significant place right now, and you should

0:45:56.440 --> 0:46:00.360
<v Speaker 1>go use this time to again reflect on yourself, orflect

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 1>on you know, what you're learning from your elders, and

0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:08.000
<v Speaker 1>just basically making the most out of the spiritually powerful

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, a few days out of this month. Yeah,

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:14.360
<v Speaker 1>And I mean it's great hearing those stories. There are

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:17.600
<v Speaker 1>far too many places, though, where where it is the opposite. Uh.

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 1>There's a term we should talk about briefly called period poverty. UH.

0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:29.800
<v Speaker 1>These are cultural barriers, political barriers, economic barriers to sanitary products,

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:34.080
<v Speaker 1>to services UH, to education UH. And they they affect

0:46:34.120 --> 0:46:40.239
<v Speaker 1>everything everything from hygiene to your job, to your health, UH,

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:43.520
<v Speaker 1>to your education and going to school. And it's a

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:45.160
<v Speaker 1>it's a problem in the world. And they are all

0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 1>kinds of great UM organizations that if you want to

0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:51.880
<v Speaker 1>help provide menstal products to people in need. There are

0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:56.200
<v Speaker 1>some great charities out there doing it. Um just you know,

0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 1>just google that, like Menstrual Product Charity and they are

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:02.280
<v Speaker 1>all are many, many of them. There's one called Freedom

0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:05.840
<v Speaker 1>for the Number four Girls, but there are there are

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:07.560
<v Speaker 1>lots of them, and you should just check them out

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:11.200
<v Speaker 1>if that's something that you feel like it's worthwhile, because

0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 1>it is. Yeah, I mean, it's a really easy thing

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 1>to overlook in you know, the United States or Canada

0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:22.440
<v Speaker 1>or Australia or the UK, um. And then it's especially

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:25.279
<v Speaker 1>easy to overlook in those countries as a man like

0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:27.640
<v Speaker 1>you just don't think about that kind of thing. But

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:31.200
<v Speaker 1>even in those countries people do experience period poverty. So

0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not like you're just helping people in

0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:36.719
<v Speaker 1>less developed nations, like you're helping people in your own

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 1>country too who don't have access to it. And again

0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 1>that access to sanitary products is considered a human right,

0:47:43.200 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 1>or it's becoming more and more considered a human right. Absolutely. Uh.

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:51.359
<v Speaker 1>Should we close with some menstrual myths? Yes, this is fun,

0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:54.719
<v Speaker 1>It is fun. Uh. This is a myth that I

0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:57.120
<v Speaker 1>heard so much in my life. I assumed it was true,

0:47:57.719 --> 0:48:00.520
<v Speaker 1>which is that women if they hang out a lot together,

0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:03.560
<v Speaker 1>like in an office or or a small business, or

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:07.600
<v Speaker 1>in a dorm or a sorority house, that they will

0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:12.680
<v Speaker 1>sync up. It can be called minstrel synchrony or the

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:16.919
<v Speaker 1>McClintock effect, which is named after who was to blame

0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:20.520
<v Speaker 1>for this, which is the nineteen seventy one study by

0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Martha McClintock about women in a college dorm. It was

0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:28.200
<v Speaker 1>published in Nature magazine and it got a lot of attention.

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 1>And I think people still I think that women can

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:34.000
<v Speaker 1>sync up, and that just has proved not to be

0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the case. It's been debunked over and over, and they

0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:40.160
<v Speaker 1>found a lot of problems with the initial study. So

0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I saw a couple of things I saw that was

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 1>discredited and debunked, and um, I also saw that it

0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:51.960
<v Speaker 1>remains unproven. And apparently McClintock's initial study was, you know,

0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:55.960
<v Speaker 1>left a lot to be desired, so her methodology was

0:48:56.080 --> 0:48:59.000
<v Speaker 1>not really great, so the whole thing couldn't be reproduced

0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:04.800
<v Speaker 1>using her exact methodology. But apparently, anecdotally speaking, it's so

0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:08.800
<v Speaker 1>prevalent um that like people just refuse to believe, it

0:49:08.880 --> 0:49:11.680
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't exist. And say we just haven't figured out

0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 1>how to how to prove it yet. Well, what I saw,

0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:16.800
<v Speaker 1>and again maybe maybe the jury still out, but what

0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I saw was that the variable, the variability of the

0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:25.440
<v Speaker 1>menstrual cycle among people who menstraight, and the days that

0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:28.040
<v Speaker 1>it can change and get thrown out of sink and

0:49:28.160 --> 0:49:31.960
<v Speaker 1>it can last longer, be shorter than that overlap is

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:35.560
<v Speaker 1>what accounts for people thinking that they're sinking up. Um.

0:49:35.880 --> 0:49:39.160
<v Speaker 1>But who knows. I mean, I think maybe the jury

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:41.800
<v Speaker 1>is still out, but we can definitely say that no

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:45.560
<v Speaker 1>one proved that women sink up. That's fun. Let's both

0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:51.040
<v Speaker 1>say that what other myths are out there? We've got

0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:53.680
<v Speaker 1>some good ones, Chuck, this is one that I didn't

0:49:53.719 --> 0:49:57.480
<v Speaker 1>realize either. Um. The idea that you can't get pregnant

0:49:57.520 --> 0:50:01.640
<v Speaker 1>on your period, news flash, you totally can. Yeah, and

0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:05.560
<v Speaker 1>in like really take that to heart. You can get

0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:08.960
<v Speaker 1>pregnant in your period. And the reason why is, if

0:50:09.000 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 1>you'll remember back to what we were talking about when

0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:13.880
<v Speaker 1>we kind of were doing the nitty gritty of UM,

0:50:14.040 --> 0:50:18.759
<v Speaker 1>the minstrreul and um ovulation cycles, they kind of overlap,

0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:23.840
<v Speaker 1>so that follicular cycle it starts when you start your period.

0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:26.960
<v Speaker 1>And if you have a short follicular cycle, you might

0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:31.640
<v Speaker 1>drop an egg pretty shortly after you stop your period.

0:50:32.560 --> 0:50:35.680
<v Speaker 1>That's fine and dandy. The problem is is sperm is

0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:39.360
<v Speaker 1>viable for up to five days in the human body,

0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:42.080
<v Speaker 1>in a woman's body, So if you drop an egg

0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and they're sperm, that's saying hanging out on day five,

0:50:45.120 --> 0:50:48.920
<v Speaker 1>it can fertilize that egg even though you're still on

0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:51.360
<v Speaker 1>your period. You had sex while you were on your period,

0:50:52.120 --> 0:50:55.840
<v Speaker 1>that's right, So again, you can get pregnant on your period.

0:50:56.560 --> 0:51:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Very important if you're just getting started in your uh

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:04.120
<v Speaker 1>sexual life, to understand this or at any time in

0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:05.799
<v Speaker 1>your life. Yeah, I was gonna say, or you don't

0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:10.120
<v Speaker 1>want a big surprise, you know, in your midlife? Uh?

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:15.279
<v Speaker 1>What about sharks and bears? Despite what Steve Carrell said

0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:18.680
<v Speaker 1>an anchorman, which is one of the very funny scenes,

0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:23.520
<v Speaker 1>it really is Apparently some people think that's true. And

0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:28.120
<v Speaker 1>what's weird is there was a study that was conducted

0:51:28.239 --> 0:51:31.240
<v Speaker 1>that the National Park Service hosts on their website mentions

0:51:31.280 --> 0:51:36.200
<v Speaker 1>on their website that UM said that it's entirely possible

0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:40.480
<v Speaker 1>that UM a period could attract bears because bears have

0:51:40.560 --> 0:51:43.759
<v Speaker 1>such an amazing sense of smell um, but that they

0:51:43.800 --> 0:51:46.400
<v Speaker 1>would not be any more attracted to that odor than

0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:49.320
<v Speaker 1>any other odor that might attract them. So it's not

0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:51.719
<v Speaker 1>like you're just guaranteed to be attacked by a bear

0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:54.279
<v Speaker 1>if you go into the woods while you're menstruating, right,

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:56.600
<v Speaker 1>like the bears smells, it might as well be a

0:51:57.640 --> 0:52:03.279
<v Speaker 1>uneaten hot pocket to bear. That's the equivalent of menstruating

0:52:03.360 --> 0:52:05.400
<v Speaker 1>as far as bears are. Keep saying, Uh, did you

0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:08.960
<v Speaker 1>see the part about polar bears though no, huh, they did.

0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:12.520
<v Speaker 1>This was on the same NPS site. They did an

0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:15.520
<v Speaker 1>actual study and it seems that, or at least in

0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:22.800
<v Speaker 1>the study, polar bears actually were specifically attracted to menstrual blood.

0:52:23.320 --> 0:52:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, So we not only didn't bust a myth,

0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:29.680
<v Speaker 1>we actually supported a myth. Well it's it's they said,

0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:31.880
<v Speaker 1>grizzlies and black bears. They did test where they had

0:52:31.960 --> 0:52:34.680
<v Speaker 1>like you know, tampons and stuff out with other things,

0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:37.719
<v Speaker 1>and the grizzly bears and black bears didn't really care,

0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:41.759
<v Speaker 1>but um, the polar bears did. And I don't know

0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:45.239
<v Speaker 1>like how full proof that study is, but they they

0:52:45.320 --> 0:52:47.799
<v Speaker 1>basically said, the jury is still out on polar bears.

0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:51.440
<v Speaker 1>And polar bears are just super aggressive anyway. They're one

0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:54.359
<v Speaker 1>of the only animals that, like, we'll stalk a human.

0:52:55.360 --> 0:52:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I think polar bears, lions, and I think there's one more,

0:52:58.320 --> 0:53:00.920
<v Speaker 1>but um so that it may be due to that,

0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:04.160
<v Speaker 1>but jury's still out on that. I think sharks is

0:53:04.200 --> 0:53:07.319
<v Speaker 1>a definite note right, Yeah, from what I saw from

0:53:07.360 --> 0:53:09.719
<v Speaker 1>what our friends that you buy co tex say, it's

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:15.560
<v Speaker 1>definitely no, that's where that one came from. Um, just

0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:17.320
<v Speaker 1>a couple more things to button up before we go.

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<v Speaker 1>We definitely didn't want to scare you about toxic shock syndrome.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually exceedingly rare. I think there's something about like

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<v Speaker 1>fifty eight cases a year um. And you can stay

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<v Speaker 1>on top of it by staying on top of changing

0:53:29.280 --> 0:53:32.760
<v Speaker 1>your tampon regularly, I think, no longer than eight hours.

0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:35.560
<v Speaker 1>And then also don't use one that's more absorbent than

0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:38.640
<v Speaker 1>you need, because again, they proliferate on the fibers, So

0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:42.640
<v Speaker 1>more fibers means more chance for that bacteria to proliferate

0:53:43.000 --> 0:53:45.719
<v Speaker 1>and create those toxins. That's one and then also one

0:53:45.760 --> 0:53:48.600
<v Speaker 1>other thing, even if you're not worried about getting pregnant

0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:51.560
<v Speaker 1>on your period. You can still catch sexually transmitted diseases

0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:53.480
<v Speaker 1>on your period, so you should be wearing a condom

0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:58.239
<v Speaker 1>in that case. Anyway. That's right, Good job, buddy, thank you,

0:53:58.320 --> 0:54:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Good job to you. There's also a tamp on shortage

0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:03.960
<v Speaker 1>going on right now, Chuck, did you see that? I did. Uh.

0:54:04.160 --> 0:54:06.080
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of things that there's a shortage of

0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:11.160
<v Speaker 1>right now. So that's um obviously worrisome, especially with these

0:54:11.360 --> 0:54:14.040
<v Speaker 1>organizations that try to send these two places where they

0:54:14.080 --> 0:54:16.680
<v Speaker 1>really really need them. Yeah, for sure. But there's few

0:54:16.800 --> 0:54:21.239
<v Speaker 1>shortages that can be attributed to Amy Schumer. Uh, And

0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:23.400
<v Speaker 1>this one has been at least in part. There was

0:54:23.800 --> 0:54:27.440
<v Speaker 1>a big tam PACs ad campaign featuring Amy Schumer that

0:54:27.600 --> 0:54:33.200
<v Speaker 1>tam pac said was so colossally um impactful, and sales

0:54:33.239 --> 0:54:35.680
<v Speaker 1>went up so high that they blamed part of the

0:54:35.719 --> 0:54:39.120
<v Speaker 1>tampon shortage on the ad campaign. I'd buy anything Amy

0:54:39.120 --> 0:54:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Schumer told me to buy. I love her. Sure, She's

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<v Speaker 1>America's greatest national treasure. She's one of them. She's better

0:54:47.200 --> 0:54:50.840
<v Speaker 1>than the Declaration of Independence and Abe Lincoln's hat rolled together,

0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:55.239
<v Speaker 1>which is what some people used as tampons during the

0:54:55.239 --> 0:54:59.839
<v Speaker 1>Civil War. That's right. Nice, Uh, you got anything else.

0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I got nothing else, All right, Chuck, way to go, buddy.

0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Um we did it. Since I just said that it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for a listener mail. Uh. We had our drowning

0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:14.279
<v Speaker 1>episode run on our Saturday selects recently and got a

0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:17.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of people writing in again about that. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is a water safety p s a from um someone

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<v Speaker 1>who worked as a lifeguard. Her name is Ella Fineberg,

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<v Speaker 1>and ellis as a couple of things, one of which

0:55:26.560 --> 0:55:30.799
<v Speaker 1>is water wings are not safe parents. And these are

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<v Speaker 1>the things that the parents put their little kids in

0:55:33.480 --> 0:55:36.239
<v Speaker 1>that goes around their chest and then their arms. They're

0:55:36.239 --> 0:55:38.040
<v Speaker 1>called float ees. You know. They put their little tiny

0:55:38.120 --> 0:55:42.600
<v Speaker 1>arms through their Uh. Many parents think they're legit flotation devices.

0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't blame them, um, but they don't secure under

0:55:46.000 --> 0:55:48.359
<v Speaker 1>their arms very well. And there's a very real risk

0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:50.680
<v Speaker 1>that if a kid goes under the water, wings will

0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:52.960
<v Speaker 1>float up to their wrists and not do anything to

0:55:53.040 --> 0:55:56.680
<v Speaker 1>keep their actual head above water. Uh. And newsflash, you

0:55:56.719 --> 0:55:59.799
<v Speaker 1>can't breathe if your hands are above the water. That's

0:55:59.840 --> 0:56:02.440
<v Speaker 1>the second news flash of this episode. If only your

0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:06.200
<v Speaker 1>hands for buff water. Let should say. Uh. And here's

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<v Speaker 1>another news flash, Um, Ella says something you didn't mention

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<v Speaker 1>is if you are not a strong swimmer and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a flotation device with you, do not help

0:56:18.360 --> 0:56:23.120
<v Speaker 1>someone who is drowning. Uh. And it fights probably most

0:56:23.160 --> 0:56:27.200
<v Speaker 1>people's instinct. But you see stories all the time about

0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:31.400
<v Speaker 1>two people drowning instead of one person drowning. Um, or

0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe causing that person to even drown quicker

0:56:34.680 --> 0:56:38.600
<v Speaker 1>because you're not a good swimmer. But Ella says, just

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<v Speaker 1>reiterates a few different times, just do not attempt to

0:56:42.320 --> 0:56:46.799
<v Speaker 1>rescue a drowning victim. If you can't swim very well yourself. Uh,

0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:51.560
<v Speaker 1>call your local emergency number, wait for someone go screaming

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<v Speaker 1>for help. Uh, and fight that instinct. And that is

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<v Speaker 1>from Ella Fineberg, former lifeguard. Nice. Thanks a lot, Ella,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you really did some good work here and

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<v Speaker 1>we appreciate it. And hello to your husband because they

0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:08.279
<v Speaker 1>listen together. Nice. Um. Well, if you want to be

0:57:08.400 --> 0:57:11.600
<v Speaker 1>like Ella and share some really great important information, we

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