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So stop reading other people's 28 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: success stories and start writing your own. Now you can 29 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: be motivated by their success. Understand that that is a 30 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: blessing because their stories can offer direction and help you 31 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: reach your goals through your planning and your committed effort. 32 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 1: The interviews that I bring to the forefront owned Money 33 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: Making Conversation, I've hopefully are relatable to you and it 34 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: will provide you information as a listener about career and 35 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: financial planning, entrepreneurship, motivation, leadership, overcoming the arts, and how 36 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: to live a balanced life. Now let's get back to 37 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: my guest here, she's on the phone. My next guest 38 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: is a screenwriter. A screen writer now see I'm a 39 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: sitcom writer. She's a screenwright. That's a big difference. We're 40 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: gonna talk about that. She is straight out of Compton, California. 41 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: Both the father and brother formerly served as mayors. I'm 42 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: pretty sure I've met them. I'm pretty sure. She holds 43 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: the Masters of Fine Arts in Screenwriting from Loyola Marymount 44 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: University and Masters of Art from Full of Seminary, and 45 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: as an ordained minister. So I can't use an extra 46 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: words on the show. She's on. The show discussed overcoming 47 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: the odds, being mentored by my man John Singleton, and 48 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: an incredible lifetime movie. To Clark's sisters, First Ladies of Gospel, 49 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: please walk on the money Making Conversation, Camille Tucker, Hi Rashan, 50 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: thank you for having me comill so yea comire. What 51 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: part of the country you know? Are you sitting there 52 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: right now? I'm in l A. I'm in the l 53 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: A area, l A, California, Cali. CALLI straight out of Compton, 54 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: straight out Compton. I know Steve Harvey and I was 55 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: a broadcaster and two thousand and two thousand five we 56 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: did several live broadcasts some city Hall, Compton City. Now 57 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: you know, so I as as you know, and you 58 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: know The interesting thing about it is that when we 59 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: signed our contract in two thousand and dot two point 60 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: three to be which was in Los Angeles, California, you 61 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: know they will do live broadcast, but they were new 62 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: love broadcasts in the black communities, and so so it 63 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: was kind of like, you know, it was always on 64 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: the perimeter. You know, black people have to come to us. 65 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: And so we went to Baldwin Hills, which is off 66 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: of Crenshaw in Los Angeles, and we went to Compton. 67 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 1: People go, y'all gonna go to the company went to Watts. See, 68 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: these are primary locations. If you're listening to Mother Parker 69 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: coach every place. I said, it's black folks balling Hills. 70 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: Straight black people. Okay, they ain't gotta come to you. 71 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: They're gonna walk to you. Okay, they don't have to 72 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: They're like getting a bus. They're gonna just walk up 73 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: to you and shake your hand. And it and it 74 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: changed our lives. But more importantly, we wanted to tell 75 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: a different narrative or what people thought and what they 76 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: saw in movies which you saw on TV about black 77 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: people in these communities. They just like you, They want 78 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: to their middle class. They want to they want better 79 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: for their children and what they have for themselves and 80 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: that and that kind of got that when I was 81 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: reading your bio about who you are as a person 82 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: and knowing that your your father was the Mayor Compton 83 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: and your brother was American was also the Mayor Compton. 84 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: Talk about that whole experience and and and just just 85 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: growing up in that environment then then moving out of 86 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: that environment. Yeah, I feel I'm totally a daughter of Compton. 87 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: And something interesting, my father, Walter our Tucker the second 88 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: used to always say she said that people would say, 89 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: can any good thing come from Compton? And he told them, well, 90 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: they used to say the same thing about Nazareth. My 91 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: dad say that, and that we know that where Jesus 92 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: came from. People always have a certain stigma about certain 93 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: locations and it's not until or certain cities or places communities, 94 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: and when you grow up in that community, you know 95 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: really what the community is. And I grew up in 96 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: a place where people looked out for each other, where 97 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: they cared about um the local politics and people involved. 98 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: They were civic servants. And interestingly, I grew up in 99 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: a neighborhood called Richland Farm, which was zoned for livestock, 100 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: so that's something people don't There were black cowboys in 101 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: my community driving down. Are not driving riding down, riding 102 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: down with their chaps and on horses, and so that 103 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: was really rich. My friend had steer and they used 104 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: to compete in the four h and everything. But what 105 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: I did see was Venus and Serena practicing at compt 106 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: Community College with their father. So I saw them. I 107 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: mean I literally you know, they their products of it 108 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: and other great friends and people that I know, Um, 109 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: just a business colleague, abad Rene and Leslie Psych's fan 110 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: who's on the ABC Channel seven news. So we know 111 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: that good things and good people can come from anywhere. 112 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: But Compton is a big part of my writing, my influences, 113 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: the local color, the people that I met, the interactions 114 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: that I had living in an all black community and 115 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: even going to a predominantly white school, and just the 116 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: interesting dichotomy of those experiences is what really inspired me 117 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: as a writer. So I am grateful for that background 118 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: and that experience. Well, it articulates your tone, and I 119 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: think that's important because of the fact that that's why 120 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: I feel blasted. I can have this, I think a 121 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: natural conversation with you about l a from a from 122 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: a black perspective of now people. Yeah, because rap rap 123 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: put a label on you know, rap was successful, but 124 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: it also lead people to believe that, you know, gangsters, 125 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: and so that that didn't help. It helped the rappers 126 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: payer pocketbooks, but didn't have the communities. And so reception 127 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: breeds ignorance sometimes when the ignorance is what you're projecting 128 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: and and that's what that's what the neighborhoods like Watch 129 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: neighborhoods like bald in the Hills area south Central was 130 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: not even a community, but it became like a community. 131 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: And uh, just the area of the streets that Crenshaw 132 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: did you drive down and then uh towards Compton and 133 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 1: uh and it was really the thought process that watch 134 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: you back, and you hear black people watch you back 135 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: when you go over your boy and so now when 136 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: it gets there. It's interesting also as my father and 137 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: his brothers were all doctors and they had a high 138 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: rise medical building in the middle of Watch community. I mean, 139 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: we want, we don't sure to tell the truth that 140 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,119 Speaker 1: this this one we're gonna talk about the first Ladies 141 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: of Gospel, But we gotta tell the truth first Camilla. 142 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: That's why I brought your teach a little bit. Preacher. Well, 143 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: I think what's so cool is that you see and 144 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: I see like my father went Tom Harry Dental School, 145 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: and I remember growing up from my friends from either Compson, Carson, 146 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,679 Speaker 1: Baldwin Hills, and even some lived in Paul Verdi. These 147 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: African American men who had gone to Howard, who was 148 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: gone a morehouse, who had gone to like my Harry, 149 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: my mother went to Fifth who had a lot of um, 150 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: just pride and and they're not bad pride, but the 151 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: pride and what their work, their work ethic and what 152 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: they did, and they passed down um great values to us. 153 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: So what I see, like you said, is middle class people, 154 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,599 Speaker 1: working class people, um, who wanted to the next generation 155 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: to thrive. And I think they passed down great value 156 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: to us. So that's the other side of the story. 157 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: And to be honest, when you talk about a window 158 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: into the Clark sisters. The way I was raised and 159 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: my dad was also an associate pastor in the Baptist Church, 160 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: I believe that equipped me or it uniquely spoke to 161 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: me when this project came to me in two thousand 162 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: and five, and I saw it was about this strong 163 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: woman who helped mold her daughters for excellence and wanted 164 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: them to rise above stereotypes or any kind of thing 165 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: like that placed on them. And I felt like that 166 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: was my mother and my father, and I felt like 167 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: those were the values that were instilled in me. So 168 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: I could relate so much to that. And I could 169 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: also relate to raising up in the scrutiny of the 170 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: church and how some of that feels and how you're 171 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: trying to find your voice for me, particularly as a 172 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: creative artist. So I feel like the way that I 173 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: was raised and my family and my heritage had a 174 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: big part of me wanting to tell this story and 175 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: to be involved in this project. It's interesting because you 176 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: see a lot of things on TV and I was 177 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: I could never do that because it was it was 178 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: ridden with a certain level of sensibility. And uh, you know, 179 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: I believe in God, but not to the way that 180 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: you've lived a godly life. You know, like you raised 181 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: in the church, father, minister, you know, you became an 182 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: ordained minister, but still have everyday life. I wasn't always 183 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: living a godly life. Come on, year, members, So we 184 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: can't go like that now we can't go like that. 185 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: We can't go like that. I got to tell you 186 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: you gotta stay not part of my opinions. That's why 187 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: I pay me the Lord come here. What I'm just 188 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: saying is that you just jumped out this. Can you 189 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: can you let me just do my show a little bit? 190 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: Can you can you just gave me lavish praise? Only 191 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: because I'm just saying you you you have a shaped life, 192 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: you know, whereas you know you have the title of 193 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: d Minister. And that's why I wanted to That's why 194 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: I wanted to start with a straight out of Compton store, 195 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: you know, say so we can shape you are because 196 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't understand how you get to 197 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: these places. That's why I want to bring up John 198 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: Singleton in a minute, because see these all these things 199 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: shape you to be able to tell a story. Like 200 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: I said, we're watching this movie, this amazing movie. Because 201 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: I Cure shared on it. They let me see the 202 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: movie prior to a premiering on the Lifetime So I 203 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: was like, all in. I couldn't even wait to talk 204 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: to her about it, you know. And then so so 205 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: when the A I was telling watch watch this movie 206 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: was amazing. It was amazing because the reason I say 207 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: that because you know here the clock sisters, and then 208 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: you talk about chan I wasn't always like ordained because 209 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: in this movie, it wasn't a goodie two shoe story. Okay, 210 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: it showed some dark sides. And so that is why 211 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: I have to tell people how did she why was 212 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: she able to pull it out? Because look at who 213 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: she is. She She's a black woman, blew up in 214 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: a black community, not not a not with a bad 215 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: that the world saw a different way than she lived it. 216 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: She went to a white environment educating that process. And 217 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: so you walked so many different lanes. And because you 218 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: walked so many different lanes, it allows you to say, 219 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: can I tell an honest story here? Because they could 220 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: have sugarcoated a lot of things. Mama Clark, she could 221 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,479 Speaker 1: have been like a cool lady, you know, but she 222 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: she was a tough you know. And I told kid, 223 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: who just said kid, she was kind of tyrannical to me, 224 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 1: She wasn't tyrannical. Hey, I'm just saying, you know, she's 225 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: pretty dominant, you know, you know I was, I was 226 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: just lating there what I saw. I saw a dominating person. 227 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: You know, this woman said, this woman home girl, she 228 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: couldn't even have a life. She had a driver, mama 229 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: everywhere and so so. But this was part of the story. 230 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: The grandfather of the father of their of them or 231 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: the Clark's sisters were he was, you know, physically abused 232 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: as mama. So that stuff could have been left out. 233 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: But y'all told a real story. That's why I loved it, 234 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: and it's it's a blessing that you had the ability 235 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: to craft the story and then co write the story. 236 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: That's a journey in itself, isn't it. Yes, so much 237 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: a journey and a worthy journey, and a journey I'm 238 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: so grateful for to be a part of that experience. 239 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: And I had to dig in the deepest part of 240 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: myself to help tell that story. Now, let me ask 241 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: you this. In the in the process of telling the 242 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: honest story, and you know, we all know this is 243 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: as honest as gonna get, were there any pushback on 244 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: certain storylines that were developed they weren't flattering or are 245 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: there any pushback? Yeah, there was no pushback. The card 246 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: sisters were very open and very vulnerable and wanted the 247 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: truth to be told. I would say that there were 248 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: certain things that we wanted to do more nuanced. Like 249 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: you'll notice when the scene between Maddie and her husband, 250 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: you don't see the violence on screen, it's behind the 251 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: closed doors. And that was an adjustment to bring more 252 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: nuanced so you don't necessarily have to see it, but 253 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: you know what's happening. And that's how some of the 254 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: younger daughters experienced, you know, some of the drama that 255 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: was going on in the household. So um, yeah, I 256 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: think little changes like that can sometimes make the story 257 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: more powerful. Well there's that's old school movie teller, you know, 258 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: back in the day. You know, you know, when people 259 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: were about to make love, they just they they faded 260 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: the dark. Then they come back smoking cigarettes. You know 261 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You fad about knew something happened between 262 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: the faith, the dark and the cigarette smoking and and 263 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: and so I got that and that's why and I 264 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: felt that that's the only way you should tell this story, 265 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: because if you went any darker, that's a different story. 266 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: The stories about this mom who was on a mission, 267 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: a godly mission, you know, to to to empower her daughter, 268 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: because you said, look at you guys are not gonna 269 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: be cooks and maids. She was passionate about that for 270 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: her daughters. And I'm talking to my friend Camille Tucker. 271 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: You know amazed you writer the hit movie on Lifetime. 272 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: It will be real. We're gonna talk about that man 273 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: the Clock's Sisters, the First Ladies of Gospel. The film 274 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: was the highest rated the original movie the year across 275 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: all networks, through the viewership of two point seven million Lifetime. 276 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: It's happy, very happy, and now it's up to eleven millions. 277 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying, she won't let me get none of my facts. 278 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm just so tired of you came here. You're just 279 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: gonna just take all my little thunder Huh. 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Um came up which store two thousand five 320 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: co wrote the brilliant portrayal of the clock Sisters, The 321 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: First Ladies of Gospel, one of my and the thing 322 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: about I don't want to tell the movie, Um, but 323 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: it was compelling. I didn't know of the story is 324 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: going to go. The fact that they were from Detroit 325 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: and the heart of the Motown era, and their mom said, no, 326 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: you're doing gospel and they could all blow. They could blow. Yeah, 327 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: they were attractive and could blow. Lets me know that 328 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: they were in Jackson five was just eating up the 329 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: airwave radio waves, and but she was on the mission. 330 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: Can you can you give us an insight that what 331 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: what what made the Clark sister besides being talented, what 332 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: made them successful? Yeah? Thank you um. First of all, 333 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: I just want to also give honor to the beautiful queens, 334 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: the Clark sisters, and thank them for their life and 335 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: their legacy to tell the story. But you know there's 336 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: a key line that Dr Mattie Marks Carson. She said, 337 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you started for Jesus, and so she 338 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: was determined that they stayed in the church. But I 339 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: think two things are very interesting. Number one, they call 340 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: it one voice in the movie. At one point we 341 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: were kind of pining around with the family blend, and 342 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: those sisters are annointed because their voices are all sound 343 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: like one voice and their blend is perfect. And I 344 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: think that there's something that happened with families, like God 345 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: does something magical in the DNA that you know, one 346 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: thing's first topproun, all the other things second topprono, the 347 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: other one sings out, so the other one's contract outside 348 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: the other one's Tenor how do you get each daughter 349 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: has that different range. How do you you don't plan that? 350 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: So that is like fascinating to me, and I think 351 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons that they are so successful 352 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: because of that family blend. It sounds like honey, it 353 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: sounds like their voices are coming down from heaven. And 354 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: then the other thing, in addition to all of them 355 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: having a very unique gift that blends together, twinky musical 356 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: writing genius is huge. See. The thing about Twinkie is 357 00:19:55,280 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: she studied musical theory and she combined different genres and 358 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: we saw that with You Brought the Sunshine, but she 359 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: was doing that all the time. She'd be like, I 360 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: want to yeah, I want some reggae the R and B. 361 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: I want some gospel, and she mixed them together and 362 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: come up with songs. And that was I think big 363 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: in terms of people being like, this is unique, this 364 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: is fresh. So I think that was a big part 365 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: of it too. Well, you know, it really was. I 366 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: think that she wrote over a two d and fifty songs. 367 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: I believe that was one of them. At the end 368 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: of the movie, it was you know that. The thing 369 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: about it is that you know and watching and you 370 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: know you gotta watch the movie. They don't all turn 371 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: out good for all clocks sisters, you know, you know, 372 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: and that's and that's a that's a point that I 373 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: think that one could have a vision and and and 374 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: a focus and said this is what I think you 375 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: should do. What everybody wants to live their own lives 376 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: and something. And when you do that, you see that 377 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: in the groups break up. I was looking at the Kiss, 378 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: The Kiss, break your break another band, you know, they 379 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: were talking about how Jean and he stayed and to 380 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: other two went that went away and so then they 381 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: wanted to come back. And so it's like a lot 382 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: of people. What my biggest takeaway was that the reason 383 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: that clarks are very successful. Yes, the mom was very driven, okay, 384 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: but the daughters were willing to work hard, they were 385 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: willing to find that one note that you're talking about 386 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: one note, and they were willing to drive her everywhere. 387 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: But the other thing that came out of was that 388 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: she was a female in a very very male dominated world. Yes, absolutely, 389 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: and it showed itself a couple of times when when 390 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: they were dealing with the record deal as a promoter, okay, 391 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: because she was booking their dates and then the church, 392 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: how did, How did that player role in your storytelling? 393 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: It was so important to me because I did not 394 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: know really as much about Dr and Annie miss Clark 395 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: before I started on this project, and I felt like, 396 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: we have these unsung heroes and here Shiro's and heroins, 397 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: and I felt like she was someone so critical in 398 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: such a trailblazer for that time that a lot of 399 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: people didn't know about. And I felt challenged and I 400 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: felt honored, like I want the people to know about 401 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: this woman who was um really kind of bucking the standard, 402 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: and I believe helped bring about change in the Church 403 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: of God in Christ. I feel like some of the 404 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: way that the Church of God in Christ is now 405 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: whereas you can see the Clark's sisters being able to 406 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: cross different platforms, go into you know, seeing in the 407 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: secular arenas, or go to Essencest or whatever where pants 408 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: and things like that, we have to give a tribute 409 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: to go and live. I think the Clark this is 410 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: we're the ones that helped forwards that path, you know, 411 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: and Dr Maddie Mark Krk helped forwards that path. So 412 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 1: I see her as someone just like how we um 413 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: and I don't want to like compare important to people, 414 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: but we give tribute to like Harriet Tubman or we 415 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: said she was a great woman Austry and she helped 416 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: change things. And I feel like Dr Maddie Moss Clark 417 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: too and also having her doctorate music and everything. So 418 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: I look at that and I'm like, thank you for 419 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: women like that who had the courage that opened opportunities 420 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: for women like me today and other women whether they're singers, 421 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 1: artists or have you. Um, yeah, And it's fascinating to me. Well, 422 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: you know, I thought it was important for you know, 423 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: for you what you're articulating is very important. But I 424 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: view what they accomplished and still accomplished in the day 425 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: was the gospel version of what Destiny Child became. Yeah, 426 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: you know, you know, because an amazing breakthrough because Destiny 427 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: Child that was an industry dominated by whites. Okay what 428 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: they did? You know, it became a pop powerhouse and 429 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: we know that, you know, gospel music at that time 430 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: was just dominated by ministers and men dominated that sound. 431 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: And then you but and that's what that what that 432 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: what made her so driven in that scene that she 433 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: talks to the church and they you know, like I said, 434 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: the cool thing is that when I'm telling you this story, 435 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: I'm telling you about a journey, and it's a journey 436 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: from you know, when the first thoughts, and it carries 437 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: through the ups and downs, the pains of success, the 438 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: unexpected loads of success because you know, when you're because 439 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: you know we're going to journey of success, you expect 440 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: to just be uppardly, just go skyrocket, but it doesn't. 441 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: Just for somehow you guys able to just to show 442 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: their their relationships with their when you know, because because 443 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: what what what what? Marm Ma Clark didn't bet on 444 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: the outside relationship, tearing the group of part in her eyes. 445 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: You know, these girls to become women, and women eventually 446 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: gonna meet men, and men are gonna have to have 447 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: decisions with the women of the wives and all this stuff. 448 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: That's what she didn't prepare for. And that really was 449 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: the hard most humbling part of how to deal with 450 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: that and come to grips with that. And I thought 451 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: you guys did a very good job of that in 452 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: your storytelling. Yeah, thank you. And I know one of 453 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: the scenes that like I'm hearing feedback from people, this 454 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: scene with Tweakie and her new husband and on how 455 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: it was related to us, and that's the scene that's 456 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: really getting a lot of people. Um, and that's a 457 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: pretty powerful scene. There's several scenes in that film that 458 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: are just like Outside the Church was powerful on the 459 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: internet with John Terrell and Mama and Dr Maddie myth Park, 460 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, plenty powerful scenes. Don't underserve yourself. You know. 461 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: It was so many act break act, break at break, 462 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: go to commercial. It was so many great scenes. And 463 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm just happy I got to see it just straight through, 464 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because it's just so amazing moment. 465 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: But I also want to point out this is that 466 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: it was a note that it was so many stars 467 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: in social media that got on board with this project. 468 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: To Rodger p Henson, Man Tyler Perry, Maria Carry, you know, 469 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: able to do an age, Janet Jackson, so many people 470 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: just said watts for so many different genres. How did 471 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: that make you feel? This is your little project you 472 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: started in two thousand five, This is the Clarkson is 473 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: on Lifetime. We all pray for big moment. We always say, 474 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: hey man, this can be the one. But when you 475 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: start seeing these media posts, because I know what he 476 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: can do, because that's that's what happened to me on 477 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: Think Like a Man the first movie, because every p 478 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: did you know, Dwayne Wade, you know, Kevin Hard Of course, 479 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: all these people are just posting left it right and 480 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: that we made thirty three million dollars. I'll open it weekend. 481 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,479 Speaker 1: So I know what happens when you when you push 482 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: a brand. And this guy pushed so much in social media, 483 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: and like you said, it's like you said, it's a 484 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: level million now viewers now, okay, so you know, yea 485 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: seven the first night, I calculated that if it was 486 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: a theatrical eleast would have been forty three million dollars, 487 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: which is amazing. But it feels I feel blessed, I 488 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: feel humble. I feel I'm still processing it. Rashaun honestly, 489 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: Lebron James had Danna Box, Mariah Carry, Janet Jackson, and 490 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm really still Priscilla Shre Martha Manuzi, and I'm still 491 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: just like God, you know, thank you, Like I'm really 492 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: just my heart is full and opportunities are opening up 493 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: and I'm very excited about, you know, just just being 494 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: able to be in this place. I don't think any 495 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: of we thought that people would connect, but this means 496 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: didn't really connected with an audience. Absolutely, and I'd be remiss. 497 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: I know we're wrapping up, but I want to talk 498 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: about John Singleton. M he was your main tour and uh, 499 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: and we all know, you know what he's done in 500 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: this business. And and uh, you know, when you start 501 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: talking about black directors, male directors, you know Spike Lee, 502 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: John Singleton, you know they broke the grounds. They broke 503 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: the ground for us and doing it different ways, doing 504 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: it their way. So tell me how did you create 505 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: a relationship with get your relationship started, How did he 506 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: impact who you are becoming, and how he helped you 507 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: along the way. I met John when we were both 508 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: in college. Actually he was at USC and I was 509 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: at U c l A. But he was at my 510 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: crosstown rival, and he was directing a music video actually 511 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: and I was in the video. And that's how we 512 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: first met. And after we both graduated and started affording 513 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: our path the filmmakers, he came to me and my 514 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: former writing partner one day about a script called gold Diggers, 515 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: and we ended up writing it together and selling it 516 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: to Universal. It didn't get made, but during that process, 517 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: the thing that I learned most from john Is about craftsmanships. 518 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: He would sit and watch movies with me and walk 519 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: me through, frame by frame what was going on in 520 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: the film, what the filmmaker was doing, and taught me 521 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: about about cinematic language. And I will always be grateful 522 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: for him for that, because I think we have to 523 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: be artists and we also have to be business people, 524 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: which is part of what you talk about with money matters, um, 525 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: but on the artist side, that really opened up my 526 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: world to see that cinematic language and to try to 527 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: take that into every project that I do. UM And 528 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: he was a cinematic brilliant director, and I see the 529 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: same thing in Christine Swanson who directed The Card Sisters. 530 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: You know, that's what makes the difference when we see 531 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: a film like every frame is so beautifully shot and 532 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: a part of telling the story. And that's what really 533 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: motivates me to continue to be a storyteller like that. 534 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: You know, this is a one big moment, there's one 535 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: big on your resume. What's what's what's next for you? What? 536 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: What's what? What do we got looking in the future 537 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: for you? I have and in Spray sal romantic comedy 538 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: called Blessed in the City, which is based on my 539 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: real life, and I would say it's the Woman of 540 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: Faith version of Sex and the City. So in the 541 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: City they were having a lot of sex, and in 542 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: my movie they aren't having a lot of right, right, right, 543 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: blessed in the city, it's about dating sexually, accidently, in dating, 544 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: and seeking God in your relationships. I also have a 545 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: project called The Kennedy's The Compton, which is a TV 546 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: pilot and it's about a black political family and Constant California. Wow. Well, 547 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: first of all, I'm a fan, and you know I 548 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: direct I direct message you and say hey, will you 549 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: do my show? And you said, Rashan, They've already contacted me, 550 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: so made me look bad. I thought about it, you know, 551 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: slide on it, act like I'm doing some big doggi ish, 552 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: you know, not, They've already contacted I'm going to do 553 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: the show. Well, I'm a fan and and know that 554 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: anything you do less in the City, come out. Please 555 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: know you can come here first or something other project 556 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,719 Speaker 1: that you're doing. But thank you congratulation. This is a 557 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: fantastic movie I've been putting. I put a banner in 558 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: my fan club, went out to ninety thousand people last weekend. 559 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: I like to believe I'm contributing to those millions that 560 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: are watching it social media posted uh on my other 561 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: platforms other than LinkedIn. So Camille, I'm doing my part. 562 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm doing my part. I might not be jan I 563 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: might not be try I might not be, but I 564 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: might not be. I'm just Rea Sean McDonald and money 565 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: making conversations. Girl. Bless you, bless you, bless you so much. 566 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: You're a dynamic man and a great role model and friends, 567 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, thank you, and come on, come on 568 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: that girl right there, you know. So it's really nice 569 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: that when I when I when you, when I look 570 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: at my life and I feel you you're part of 571 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: my life. And I look at people like Sharing so 572 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: many other people who shaped me and and have supported me. 573 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: And because all my people look at my life, they 574 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 1: look at that outside of my life. They don't look 575 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: ats got there or down moments in my life. 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