WEBVTT - Bonus Episode: Rock 'n' Roll Second Acts 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:04.760 Hey, discos, need a little more disgrace Land in your life, 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:08.039 just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:12.000 This is the podcast. It comes after the podcast. Welcome 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:31.000 to Disgraceland, the after party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.560 a little thing we like to call the after party. 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:35.600 This is the show after the show, the party after 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:37.480 the party, the bridge to get you from one full 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.120 episode of disgrace Land to the other, the backyard to 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:43.000 dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:46.599 talking about Chris Cornell. We are previewing the coming episode 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.599 on Winona Ryder, talking artists with follow up bands that 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:52.199 were more impactful than their breakthroughs. And we get into 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:55.960 your voicemails, text DMS, emails and as always a whole 0:00:56.040 --> 0:01:00.200 lot of rosie. All right, Discos, let's get in to 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:16.479 it all right, Chris Cornell. This week's full episode subject 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:20.959 broke through obviously in Soundgarden, and then went to find 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:24.240 success in Audio Sleeve. The question of the week this 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:27.440 week was what artists had more impact in their follow 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.360 up band than they did in their breakthrough band. Obviously, 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:35.200 Chris Cornell's career inspired this question. Now for the record, 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.080 I'm leaving off people like Dave Navarro who went from 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.440 Jane's Addiction to the Red Hot Chili Peppers. It's a 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.280 bit of a nuanced reason, but it's because Chili Peppers 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:47.560 weren't really Navarro's band. He joined pretty much as a sideman. 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.120 Wasn't even a full member of my opinion, so he 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:53.800 doesn't qualify. Neither is someone like Ronnie James Dio, who 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:57.600 left Black Sabbath to have a successful solo career. We're 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:02.000 talking groups here, okay. Making it in two groups two 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:06.160 bands is a much harder achievement in my estimation. Those 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.240 artists who break through with one band and then repeat 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:11.760 their success where then they surpassed their previous success in 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:15.360 another group. That's huge. That is not easy. So I 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:20.440 was surprised to learn that Soundgarden has sold significantly more 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:24.240 albums than Audio Slaves thirty million for Soundgarden to just 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:28.320 eight million for Audio Slave. The Boys and Guns N' Roses. 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:32.600 They did not fare better with Velvet Revolver. GNR is 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:37.840 a significantly bigger band than Velvet Revolver, as was Stone 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:41.639 Temple Pilots. Here's one though, bit of left field. Not really, 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:43.440 I wouldn't have thought of this. I looked it up 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:47.440 this morning. Bell Biv Deevo much bigger group for Ronnie, 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:52.360 Ricky and Michael the new Edition. Okay, what about Blur 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:56.519 and Gorillas? This, this one is shocking to me. Okay, 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.440 Gorillas have sold far more albums than Blur, something like 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:06.119 forty million to six million Gorillas. That is incredible. It's amazing. 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.880 He'll always be damon from Blur. To me, though, Kim 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:15.119 Deal's Breeders album Last Splash has supposedly sold more than 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.760 all of the Pixies albums combined. I don't know. I 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:22.080 read that, and I think the Internet might be fucking 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.120 with me on this one. This does not sound like 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:30.560 it's right, But yeah, Cannonball Man Crazy, here's a super 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:35.200 relevant one because we were talking about this couple weeks ago, 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:38.000 two after parties ago. I believe we were talking about 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.400 Joy Division and New Order. By the way, I know, 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:42.480 I'm supposed to have an update on Rock and Roll 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.480 Hall of Fame inductees, but I'm recording this after party 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:48.200 way earlier than I normally do because we need to 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:52.120 get produced in advance because of some vacation stuff that's 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:55.400 going on. School vacation, that sort of thing. So I 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:59.040 don't have the nominee Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.560 inductee's gives me inductee update for you just yet. But 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.120 when we were talking about this a couple episodes ago, 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.760 a couple bonus episodes ago, we were talking about Joy 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:12.520 Division and New Order as potential. They're nominated, they might 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:14.280 be inducted. I don't think they're going to get in. 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:18.480 I don't understand why they're being inducted as two groups. 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.000 That doesn't make any fucking sense. But you know, after 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.479 of course, Ian Curtis died, Peter Hook, Stephen Morris, and 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:29.839 Bernard Summer went on to form New Order and sold 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:34.720 way more, way more records than Joy Division. But I'm 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:37.960 guessing not as many T shirts. Should sales be the 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:41.640 final deciding element here, I don't know. I think so 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:45.600 because sales usually correlate with radio play, video play, and 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:49.000 cultural impact, except maybe in the case the Breeders versus 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:51.840 the Pixies. To me, the Pixies aren't way more culturally impactful. 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:53.800 They've been doing this for so long, and I feel 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:57.680 like they've they've just they've touched more people. It's anecdotal 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:59.520 but that's how I feel. I'm curious what you guys 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:03.279 think on the on the Pixies Breeders question. I think 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:06.039 we have to mention Dave misstaying here, who after getting 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:09.240 booted from Metallica, went on to form Megadeth. They never 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:12.560 did what Metallica did, and Dave is still crying about it. 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:14.640 But they are one of the top four thrash bands 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:18.200 of all time, along with Metallica, Slayer and Anthrax, part 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.440 of the so called Big four? Who else? Who else? 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:26.719 Eric Clapton from Yardbirds to Cream to Derek and the Dominoes. 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.720 Does he get it for doing it three times? I 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:32.920 guess you can make the case, but Yardbirds weren't really 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.080 his band, were they? I don't know. Is this the 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:39.839 right answer? Derek and the Dominoes one album and not 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.360 a very good one. This feels like a cheap win, 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:46.200 if it's a win at all. Paul McCartney jumping from 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.479 Beatles to Wings is worthy of our consideration, despite the 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:54.080 fact that Wings were obviously not as big as the Beatles. 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:59.480 The big one here is, of course, Foo Fighters. Dave 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.640 Grohl going on to just, you know, have this incredible 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:06.040 career with Food Fighters after being the drummer in Nirvana, 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.159 And I think you got to give a special tip 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.120 of the hat to Dave Grohl for going from playing 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:17.400 drums to fronting the band. But but I was a 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:21.080 little surprised by this one too. Foo Fighters have sold 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:24.600 half as many albums as Nirvana. I get that Nirvana 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:28.680 is truly iconic, but I would think the amount of 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.600 time Food Fighters have been around, I thought there was 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.480 a chance they actually sold more records. But no, it's 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.520 like seventy to seventy five million for Nirvana and something 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:40.240 like thirty two thirty five million for food Fighters. So 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.200 there you go. About what about Steve Malcolmus going from 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.160 Pavement to the Heavy Quartet? Though I'm just kidding. I 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.680 just wanted to mention the Heavy Quartet, Okay, I think 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.960 I think those are our contenders. I don't think I'm 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.159 really forgetting anyone of significance, but you guys are gonna 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:55.520 let me know when I get to the phone calls. 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:59.080 What's what is the answer? Okay? Which second act was 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:03.919 more impactful than the first? Surprisingly, I'm very surprised by this, 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.440 But I think the answer is Damon Alburn and Gorillas. 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:10.720 I think Gorilla's over Blur. Those record sales numbers are 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:14.480 no joke, and they dwarf Blur's success. I knew Blur 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:18.720 never sold a ton of records beyond the UK, but 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:23.280 I would never have guessed that Gorillas were bigger. I 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.840 should have known. I should have known. So that's my answer, 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.800 Damon Alburn, that's right. I don't know. Maybe you can 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.280 make the case for Bell Bivdavo as well, but my 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.440 gut tells me more people think about Blur than they 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:37.760 do New Edition. So that's why I give it to 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.600 Gorillas over Bell Bivdavo. But maybe this is my side 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:42.600 of the street. Then again, I grew up I legally 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:44.440 buying beer in Boston's combat zone, so I know a 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:46.800 little thing or two about New Edition. But I want 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:48.240 to know what you guys think. We're gonna get to 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.960 your answers on this question shortly, but first I have 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:54.080 to tell you about this week's rewind Archive episode coming 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.840 your way right after this bonus episode. It's on Matt 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.840 give us a little drum roll, Go ahead, all right, 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.960 It's on Iggy Pop. David Bowie fans, you're not gonna 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.480 want to miss this one either. Bowie's a big part 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.880 of Iggy story. Bowe's a big part of this episode. 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:11.240 Lots of other cool people show up in this episode too, 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:15.120 Miles Davis, Dennis Hopper, bunch of our subjects. So if 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.440 you haven't heard our Iggy Pop episode, you're gonna love it, 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:19.040 and if you have, your in for a treat when 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:22.200 you re listen to it. Coming up after that on Tuesday, 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.640 we've got our episode on Winona Rider, and Winona is 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:27.400 the course pretty rock and roll, which is why we 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:31.640 thought to feature her in Disgraceland. Weina, however, is the 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:35.840 last of our icon series artists, and we'll eventually find 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:39.880 her way into the Hollywood Land archive as Disgraceland becomes 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:45.360 once again solely music content. But for now you've got 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.160 missus Johnny Depp, not really, but sort of coming your 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:52.000 way next week, Winona Rider. Okay, this all brings us 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:54.480 to next week's question of the week. When you're listening 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:57.320 to the Winona Rider episode, be thinking about all those 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:01.680 iconic eighties and nineties females arlt's and let me know 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:05.480 if Winona is gen X's most iconic female actor. If 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:10.440 not Winona, then who Drew Barrymore Cameron Diaz. Who is it? 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.400 Let me know? Six one, seven nine oh six sixty 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.680 six three eight. Heather Graham, Leave me a voicemail, Send 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.920 me a text. Not you, Heather Graham, You guys, semi 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:20.280 a voicemail? Leave me a text. Let me know if 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.600 Heather Graham is more iconic than Winona Rider or Drew Barrymore. 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.120 Who is it? Disgrace sampod on the socials? All right, 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:27.760 I'm gonna take a quick break. I'll be hanging on 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.319 the telephone on the other side with your voicemails, texts 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:51.360 and dms. Alright, six one, seven nine oh six six 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:52.920 six three eight. You know where I'm at him in 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:54.920 the phone booths. It's the one across the hall. I'm 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:56.520 hanging on the telephone. Who you want to send me 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:58.839 a voicemail? You want to send me a text? That's 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:00.960 how you do it. Let's check out this one from 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.360 who were looking at here? The seven six five? 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:08.160 Jake, what's up? It's metal Head Monday from the seven 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:14.520 six five, North Central Indiana coming at you. You asked 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:22.840 about artists that their follow up projects were better, more influential, 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:28.080 whatever than their original breakthrough projects. I'm gonna go with 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:33.760 Neil Young, dude, Buffalo Springfield. I mean, you know they 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:38.600 were good, they had a hit, right, But man, Neil 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:45.000 Young went on to become Neil Young, I mean totally influential, 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:51.560 great music, decades long career, still going, Neil Young all 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:52.319 the way, man. 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:55.800 Rock and roller metal head Monday. I appreciate you, brother. 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:59.400 Listen that kind of breaking my own rule here only 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:03.080 because look, Neil Young solo artists, so I'm not counting 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:04.640 the solo artists. I should have said that, I guess 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:06.640 when I posed the question, but I thought it was 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:11.360 obvious because the group piece of this is so key. However, Crosby, Stills, 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:15.720 Nash and whoever the fuck aka Neil Young, as I 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:19.600 once said, Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, you could make 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:22.120 the argument that you're trying to make here for Neil 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.800 relevant to Buffalo Springfield's check out to two seven oh. 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:31.640 Hey Jay, not Jack. This is Todd, not Tim from 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:35.000 the two seven oh Nashville area. 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:38.359 But your question about the artist. 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:42.000 Who had a second band or whatever, impact or whatever, 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.880 it's probably an obvious choice. I guess I gotta go 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:50.120 with Dave Grohl. Does that count obviously? 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:54.440 Grummer for Nirvana and then frontman, main guy for the 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:55.200 Food Fighters. 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:59.720 I guess food Fighters not made, probably not as impactful, 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:06.120 but nonetheless, for thirty years now been very relevant. 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:08.040 Dave grows very relevant. 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:13.240 So anyway, I'm gonna go with that one, and maybe 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.880 a minor shout out to Josh Hamme who was in 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:20.400 Kius and then formed Queens of the Stone Age. 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:23.160 And that's probably a reach. Anyway, Thank you man, thank 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:26.000 you for your content as always, love it all. 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:30.319 Right, Todd not Tim, you know, yeah, I feel like 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.080 Food Fighters are so impactful despite their record sales not 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.959 being as much as Nirvana's, that it's hard not to 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:36.840 give it to him. 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:38.720 It's hard to go with Gorillas. I feel like if 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:42.240 you answered this question that I'm posing at a party 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:47.520 and came at people with Gorillas over Food Fighters, you 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.800 get shouted down. Just the Food Fighters. I guess it's 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:56.280 Dave Grohl's celebrity. He's just he's turned himself into something 0:12:56.320 --> 0:13:00.880 that is beyond anything Damon Alburn had turned himself into 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:05.120 after Blur, and I guess the scale because Foo Fighters 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:09.280 have sold uh right around. That's weird too. They've only 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:14.400 sold as many albums as Gorillas. Crazy Crazy, I guess 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.520 gorillas are just huge internationally and I just have an 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.000 American point of view on this. I don't know. Fascinating 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:22.720 question though, Thanks Todd not Tim all right six seven 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.720 nine oh six six six three eight. You can send 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.520 me a voicemail like Todd not Tim, like like metal 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.400 Head Monday, or you can send me a text like 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.720 the nine oh nine who writes, Hey Jake, Luke here 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:36.720 with a quick note pursuing it to your Billie Idol 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:38.720 after party. I'm had a club to see a punk show. 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:42.880 The after show playlist includes one hundred punks by Generation 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:46.040 X nearly fifty years on, and it still kills this 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.199 bumper music after a punk show? Nine o nine thank 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.280 you for the text. Who'd you go see? I want 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:53.920 to know? Let me know anyone who wonders what nine 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:55.840 or nine is texting about, it's because we just had 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:58.840 this Billie Idol episode in our feed of Disgraceland. You 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:02.040 can check that out. One writes in Hey Jake, I 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:05.480 was listening to your thoughts on Marilyn Manson's autobiography and 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.719 I wanted to mention when will you get around to 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:10.280 doing a nine inch Nails episode. There's lots of debauchery 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:12.520 to be had anyway, I will keep listening, thank you, 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:15.480 and I want to well, yeah, I had the same 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:18.120 thought because Trent obviously is a big part of Marilyn 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:22.000 Manson's story. There's a lot of Trent debauchery in the 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:27.320 Marilyn Manson book. I do think a nine Inch Nails episode. 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:29.840 I don't know. I don't know how soon on the 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:33.360 heels of Marilyn Manson, but soon ish, because I'm very interested. 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.160 For no other reason. Nine three seven, Jimmy Page has 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:37.760 to be the answer to the artist who had more 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:41.880 successful later group. What oh, I guess you're saying, yeah, 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.800 led Zeppelin compared to the Yardbirds. But the Yardbirds weren't 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.560 really Jimmy Page's group. I mean, he was in the group, 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:49.560 but you know what I'm saying. Nine three seven goes 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:51.480 on to say, speaking of led Zeppelin, I remember running 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.440 the streets of Boston with my walkman and I went 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.800 to switch out my Van Halen Fair Warning cassette with 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.560 the led Zeppelin cassette I had in the front of 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:00.880 my Champion hoodie and it was gone. I was devastated. 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.080 I only find peace with the hope that a young 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:06.200 kid perhaps found it and grew a love for music, 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:10.280 maybe even started playing music, and perhaps with any luck, 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:14.680 started a podcast about musicians behaving badly. But what's the 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:18.800 chance of that? Rock a rolla Bill from the nine 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.640 three seven. Bill's referring, of course, to the story I've 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:24.320 told before about how I got into led Zeppelin, which 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:28.040 was I was walking in my backyard one morning in 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:32.320 the fourth grade and I literally found led Zeppelin one 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:36.200 in cassette in the dewey grass. It was in its case, 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.880 so it was fine, and I brought it inside my 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:42.040 house and I put it in my stereo, and good Times, 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:45.320 Bad Times came on, and my life was forever changed 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:49.160 in that moment. Had never heard led Zeppelin before. And 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:54.360 I don't know, Bill, let's just let's say yeah, let's say, Bill, 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:58.040 we finally connected after all these years. But Boston to 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.960 where I grew up was about thirty five miles. Unless 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:04.560 it was on the wings of a geez, I don't know, 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:11.440 some led Zeppelin like medieval bird flying down across the 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:14.880 mass Turnpike out into the verbs. I doubt very much 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:16.600 that it's the same cassette, but I'm gonna believe it, 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:20.000 just for the just for the poetic license. Thank you 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.600 Bill six one seven nine oh six six six three 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:26.880 eight semi a voicemail or text disgracelam pod on the socials, 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.800 Ashley Neil writes in on Facebook, Jake, I've been listening 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:34.320 to Graceland since twenty twenty ish slogging at my shit job. 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.320 You have helped keep me sane. Love the content sincerely. 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:38.640 Meant to call in and give my take on the 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.480 question about the fave grunge band for the recent Alison 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.200 Chains Lane's Day episode, but didn't get around to it. Honestly, 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:46.400 Alison Chains is my favorite band. I was born in 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:47.960 nineteen eighty three and I kind of missed out on 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.120 them initially, but they've been a mainstay in my playlist 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:53.960 for my entire teen and adult life. Lane's raw, honestin 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.960 is lyrics paired with Jerry's guitar and harmonizing vocals just 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.680 speaks to my soul. That being said, I was kind 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:03.040 of no one gave Stone Temple Pilots a nod, even 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.880 though they didn't originate in Seattle. I feel like Core 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.720 and Scott Wiland in general really wove into that genre 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.639 beautifully and were excellent. What can I say, apparently my 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.520 favorite rock stars were all heroin addicts. Last thing, I've 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.840 been racking my brain trying to remember a band name 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.200 you mentioned as being rock and roll at a time 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:20.800 where a lot of us consider rock and roll to 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:22.960 be dead. Outside of the smaller scope, I feel like 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:25.680 it had a C in the name. It's low Cut, 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:30.600 Connie low Cut Connie Ashley, Okay. Another great band I've 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.240 been listening to lately, new band Geese. I'm sure you 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:39.640 guys have heard of it before. Not Goose, not the Goose Geese, Geese, Okay, 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:42.680 Stone Tip of Pilots not being mentioned in the top 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:46.600 ten greatest grunge bands. People have written in to voice 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:50.160 the same concern that Ashley has here. I left them 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:54.000 off my list because I like Stone Tip of Pilots, 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.520 but they were just so contrived when they came out. 0:17:56.840 --> 0:18:02.159 They seemed like a elaborate version of what grunge should be, 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:03.840 and I think a lot of people feel that way. 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.879 I think a lot of people feel that way. Also, 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.800 not that I think not being from Seattle, so I'm 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:12.239 trying to say, has something to do with it. As 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.239 you mentioned, Ashley, Stone Tip of Pilots remind me of 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:19.800 like our generation's version of Creten's Clearwater Revival. Just like 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:25.560 a great band, but completely inauthentic, you know, like ccier 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:27.760 is thinking about growing up in the swamps of Louisiana 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:31.160 or whatever, and they're from fucking San Francisco or wherever 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.280 they're from, northern California. Just there weren't from the Bayou, 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:36.800 That's all I'm saying. And Stone type of pilots just 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:40.639 didn't seem like they were grunge beside the flannel. And 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:43.679 I guess the sound. I mean, I get it, I 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.680 get it, but I just I disassociate them with that 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:50.000 scene for some reason. And I suspect that others do 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:52.760 as well. Not to take anything away from Stone type 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:56.720 of pilots. I've grown to appreciate them. I did not 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:59.560 back in the day. I guess I kind of did 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:01.960 a grudge, but not on purpose. All right, guys, you 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:04.919 want to connect on social at disgracelam pod, on Facebook, 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:08.679 on Instagram, on X hit me up. All right, we 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:10.880 started doing this new thing in the after party last week. 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:13.320 We talk a lot here about voicemails. If you guys 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:16.280 want me on your voicemail, Yes, me myself and I 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:19.280 as the voice of your virtual answering machine, me recording 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:22.240 a message for you to have playing for whenever somebody 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:23.640 calls and you're not there to pick up the phone. 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:27.640 And honestly, who actually picks up the phone these days? 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.800 So voice messages are more important than ever, That's what 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:33.760 I'm saying. You know, something like, Hey, it's Jake from Disgraceland, 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.840 and you know Gary ain't here right now. Gary's off 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:38.919 at the replacement show. He can't come to the phone, 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:43.159 So leave a message. Okay, Gary, you fucking PERV. You 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:45.159 want me to leave your voicemail for you? I got you, 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:47.240 all right. Listen, here's how you make it happen. 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:47.359 Though. 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:49.800 You got to find the Easter egg. I was inspired 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.199 by Easter. Easter just happened. I hope you all had 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:58.200 a great holiday. He has risen christosiness from my Greek friends. Anyways, 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:01.320 I was inspired by Easter. I sninking East Easter eggs. 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:02.240 What can we do? 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:02.520 Oh? 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:04.520 I know what we can do. There's tons of Easter 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:07.800 eggs in our episodes. All I get to do is 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:11.240 find a question. Ask it here. You guys, dig into 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:13.800 the episode, pull out the Easter egg, hit me back 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:18.639 either on voicemail, on text or on the DMS. Although 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:22.440 this is the how you respond might change because I 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:24.439 don't know that the posting on social thing is going 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:28.400 to work because once you post it then everybody can 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:31.280 see it. The answer dig get a lot of texts, 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:33.919 dig get a lot of voicemails with the answer to 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:37.000 the Easter egg question, which was in the Sharon Tate 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:40.840 Part two episode of Hollywood Land. Who did Sharon Tate 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:45.080 ask for advice concerning her marital problems with Roman Polanski? 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:47.960 Who did Sharon seek out for advice? That was the 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:52.720 question and the answer comes from this week's winner, Ryan 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:53.720 in the two to eight to one. 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:56.159 Hey, this is Ryan from Houston. 0:20:57.000 --> 0:21:01.320 The answer to your questions about egg healthy summer. 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:05.080 And there you go, Elkie Summer. That's the answer, Elkie Summer, 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:10.879 fellow actress friend of Sharon Tate. So Ryan, get in touch, 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:14.119 hit me back again. We will coordinate on how to 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:17.080 get you this recording for your voicemail. If you have 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:19.200 anything special you want me to say, we can work 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:21.639 all that out. You want me to leave something a 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:25.000 little curated, perhaps a little bespoke, I can do that. 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:27.120 You want me to cope with something on the fly. 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:29.760 I can do that as well. All Right, hit me back. 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:32.800 We'll get this going next week. Okay, you guys can 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:34.919 win next week. Okay, you can win. You can win 0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:37.360 next time around. You know the spin at the wheel here, okay, 0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:39.720 And the question is going to be in the Robin 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:43.800 Williams episode of this coming episode of hollywood Land. Okay, 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:46.240 we're coming up with a Robin Williams episode of hollywood Land. 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:50.200 In the most recent Robin Williams episode of hollywood Land, 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:52.000 the one that is at the top of your hollywood 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:54.920 Land feed right now, the question is no, I like 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:57.520 this one. I like this one because it's it's kind 0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:01.040 of unintentionally in the form of a joke. Okay, here's 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:04.160 the question in the Hollywoodland episode on Robin Williams. What 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:08.000 did Robin Williams get from the prostitute when he turned 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:10.480 twenty one? Head over to Hollywoodland, dive into that Robin 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:13.240 Williams episode, find the answer and hit me at six 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:15.680 one seven nine oh six six six three eight, Leave 0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:18.280 me a voicemail, send me a text with your answer. 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:20.440 I guess We're still going to do this on social media. 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:23.280 Be the first to post on Instagram. We pose this question, 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:26.400 we'll see what happens, and again. The easter egg answer 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:29.760 is in the Robin Williams episode of Hollywood Land. The 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:32.600