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But first Jmack 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: with the news. 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 3: No, no, turn on the news. 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: This is the Herdline news. 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 4: All right, colon, Let's start with Davonte Adams. We spoke 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 4: about him last week. 14 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 5: He had been oh to four in NFC Championship games 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 5: and he's now oh and five. 16 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 6: Column This is sad. 17 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 5: Adams was very emotional after the loss to seeatt'll take 18 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 5: a listen, hardbreak. 19 00:00:54,960 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 7: Step, step to talk from cars as the way the 20 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 7: guys walk to do just tough to focus on that 21 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 7: right now. It's so it's a tough, tough moment they 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 7: were in right now. So we processed the emotions of 23 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 7: this and then worry about that. But I mean, obviously 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 7: I love this team, love what this team is about, 25 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 7: and the fight that we had all year and It's 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 7: just it just sucks to come off short. 27 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, fourteen touchdowns. He has been such an asset for them. 28 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: It's an all star offensive cast. But I'd come back 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: and he just had a he just had a tremendous year. 30 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 6: Tremendous year. 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's he had four for eighty nine in the 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 5: touchdown yesterday. 33 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 4: He was excellent. 34 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 5: And it just stinks because like every loss the Rams 35 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 5: had this season was on special teams in some way, 36 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 5: shape or form. 37 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, special teams just let him down. I do think 38 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 4: the off season for the Rams is quite simple. 39 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 5: You know, you get you probably get another receiver because 40 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 5: DeVante gets hurt and pook a place. 41 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 6: You get a car, you have to get a corner, 42 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 6: get a corner three, and you go. 43 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 5: Out on the market and you hire the best special 44 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 5: teams coach. You probably overpay for somebody, and you button 45 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 5: that up and I think you probably. 46 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 4: Go back to the nfcchampions. 47 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't like this quarterback lass, they 48 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: need to tackle a couple of corners, a wide receiver, 49 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: and then you know those two fifth round picks and 50 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: a sixth round pick, that's where you go get you know, 51 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: you go get special teams, guys outside linebacker who ends 52 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: up you know it was the captain of his college 53 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: special team. 54 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 6: There's a lot of. 55 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: Guys in the sixth and seventh round. I mean, teams 56 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: have drafted long snappers and kickers. They've got to shore 57 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: it up. I mean, and you pay the most for 58 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: the coach, and then you spend you know, they've got 59 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: a couple of seventh round picks. You go find guy. 60 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you go draft the receiver who all he 61 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: did in college for three or four years. He catches kicks. 62 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: He's a kick returner with great hands. They have that 63 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: luxury because they don't have a ton of needs and 64 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: they have two firsts, so in a second and a third. 65 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: So the first four picks take care of immediate needs 66 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: and then attack the special teams. Because I'm with you. 67 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: You go look at their losses. Usually there was a 68 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: special team issue in all those losses. 69 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, this is a tough one for 70 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 4: Adams Colin. You look at his career. 71 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 5: He had Aaron Rodgers prime Aaron Rodgers and now as 72 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 5: good as Matt Stafford is going to be and he 73 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 5: hasn't gotten to the super Bowl. That's got to be 74 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 5: a bitter pill to swallow this man. 75 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 4: That's rough, all right. 76 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 5: Let's move on to the next one, and that is 77 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 5: the Eagles offensive coordinator job. 78 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 4: It is appearing as it nobody wants the job. 79 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say it's about Jalen. 80 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 4: Hurts, you can. 81 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 5: I think this is about Sirianni and job security. Sirianni 82 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 5: will enter this season on the hot seat. Okay, whether 83 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 5: people want to believe it or not, he's on. 84 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 4: The hot seat. 85 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 5: And as a result, I don't think any offensive coordinator 86 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 5: who's very good wants to go there. McDaniel didn't want 87 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 5: to go there. He's with the Chargers. Daboll wants that 88 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 5: Bill's job. The other names that have emerged are someone 89 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 5: named Declan Doyle from the Bears. He's in your back, 90 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 5: your neck of the woods up there, and La Cooc 91 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 5: Charlie Weiss Junior. 92 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 4: They were in the mix. Apparently they turned. 93 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 5: Down opportunities to interview Colin Where are we here? I 94 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 5: mean Mike Kafka, the guy from the Giants, Well, Jim 95 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 5: Bob Cooter remember him? 96 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 6: Yeah? 97 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: Well, I mean the the Eagles moved off Nick Foles 98 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: and Doug Peterson, who won a Super Bowl in a 99 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: shocking upset. 100 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 6: So it is a I've said this before. 101 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: The Eagles do a lot of things that poorly run 102 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: teams do. It just works for them because they're really 103 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: well owned and smartly run. 104 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 6: By Howie Roseman. 105 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: But it is a high intensity. You get one year 106 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: as a coordinator there, that's what you get. This is 107 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: not you know, it's not Jacksonville where yeah, it took 108 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: us a couple of years to get going. You've got 109 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: until about late October early November. And if it's not 110 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: working as a coordinator on either side, you're getting ravaged 111 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: every day by that aggressive media. So this is you know, 112 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: and a lot of people probably feel like, okay, but 113 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: if it's again, when you're dan Quinnon, you bring up 114 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: an entirely new staff to Washington. Guys get three and 115 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: four year contracts. You can get what's Philadelphia going to 116 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: do to their oc a two year contract and by 117 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: the way, that if they don't like it, you're gone 118 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: by Thanksgiving or at least end of the year. So 119 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: I think it's a I think there's a lot of 120 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: potential there. Now if you go in and crush and 121 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: they get here's the thing, you go in there in Philly. 122 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: You crush. You don't get any credit Nick Sirianni does. 123 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: So my take aim in if the offense is great, 124 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: Sirianni retains his job, and you may think I'm better 125 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: than Nick Sirianni. 126 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 6: So what's the win there? 127 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 4: Well, wait a minute, hold on. 128 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 5: Shane Steichen was good there and ended up getting a 129 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 5: head coaching job. Kellen Moore was very good there and 130 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 5: now he's a head coach. You could parlay it into 131 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 5: something you could and let's remember, you know you will 132 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 5: be the coach and the offensive play caller for Jalen Hurts, 133 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 5: who's been to two Super Bowls, and with the end 134 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 5: VP of a Super Bowl, that's something the guy's in 135 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 5: his draft class like Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow. None of 136 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 5: those guys have been MVP of a Super Bowl. 137 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 4: So you get to work with Hertz. I think it. 138 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 5: You know, it's got an opportunity. But if you're an 139 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 5: established coach, I don't know. This feels like an up 140 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 5: and coming thing. Final story, Colin, this just broke with 141 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 5: in the last hour and I think the Pro Bowls 142 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 5: officially done because Shaudure Sanders, Yes, Shadure Sanders was named 143 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 5: as a Pro Bowl replacement, likely in place of Drake 144 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 5: May of course, because he's. 145 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 4: Playing in the Super Bowl. 146 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 5: Colin Sanders becomes the first fifth round rookie to make 147 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 5: the Pro Bowl since Puka Nikua. 148 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 6: Well, he threw. 149 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 4: Seven touchdowns and ten picks in. 150 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 5: A forgettable rookie year, and he's now a Pro Bowler. 151 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 4: It's over. The Pro Bowl officially is cooked. 152 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 5: And I don't want to hear anybody Colin, you and 153 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 5: I we will not do this again on the show. 154 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 5: We will not say, hey, he made three Pro Bowls. Yeah, 155 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 5: Joe Bob like doesn't matter. 156 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 6: I agree. 157 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: I mean, this actually makes me laugh. This is funny. 158 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 5: I mean, I could think of a few other words 159 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 5: to describe it. 160 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: It's a farce. 161 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 5: I mean, are they trying to get people to tune 162 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 5: into the Pro Bowl by getting a celebrity quarterback? 163 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: What I think? I think? Actually, that's it. You got 164 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: to be kidding me. 165 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 6: I'm sure Sedor is happy. 166 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 4: Hey, I'll take it. 167 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 5: I'm sure he's got a bonus in in his contract 168 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 5: for filling the Pro Bowl. 169 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: Well, I think, for the record, ask yourself this. I 170 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: don't watch the Pro Bowl. 171 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 6: I never have. 172 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna watch it. Never have take pride it. 173 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: Don't watch the home run derby and baseball. I don't 174 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: get it. I think I'll watch the first one. It's 175 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: batting practice. I know everybody loves those two and they 176 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: get ratings. Not interested at all. But I will say 177 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: if chadur Standard played in it, and I'd say I 178 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: was golfing that day or doing something a day, I 179 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: kind of would be interested. 180 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 6: How did he play? How did he look? 181 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 5: I'm so you're the one, Goward, You're the one who 182 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 5: wants to. 183 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 4: Tune in on the golf course. 184 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 6: Hey, hey, fire up the phone. 185 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 4: Let me see what Schaduur is doing in the Pro Bowl. 186 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 5: Think I think I got to clean my toilet with 187 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 5: a toothbrush that day. 188 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 4: So unfortunately Jamie with. 189 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: The news, Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping that. 190 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: The herd line news is funny. 191 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: Well, there's two things the NFL doesn't do well. Pro 192 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: Bowl's a mess and the preseason. I would have I 193 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: always think it's funny you can have all these nineteen 194 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: twenty year old college kids. They don't get a preseason, 195 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: they have limited practice hours and Labor Day weekend, they're 196 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: out there performing at the highest level. Great games every 197 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: labor Day weekend. Those kids' limitations on practice time. They're 198 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty years old, Like, I need three preseason games. Really, 199 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: I mean, guys, get I mean, aren't you like me 200 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: during a preseason you're crossing your fingers. People don't get hurt. 201 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: You don't care about the results. You just don't want 202 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: anybody in your offensive line, anybody in your secondary receiver 203 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: to rip up their ankle and be gone until Thanksgiving. 204 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: To me, get rid of the preseason. Have one game 205 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: and kind of mandate it. That's the rookie game. Have 206 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: a rookie preseason game. You play all the young kids, 207 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: and you you can play well. Coaches neat so college 208 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: coaches don't need all these practices and games. Just have 209 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: more intersquad games, have inn squad practices. Have Washington and 210 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: Baltimore practice six times during camp. That's better than the 211 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: game anyway, you know, sitting yesterday, it's yesterday. Matt Stafford 212 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: probably a statistical argument that it is the greatest game 213 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: a quarterback has ever had and lost a playoff game. 214 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: That's how good Matt Stafford was. And you know, at 215 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: various times early in the game, I thought Seattle had 216 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: a chance to bulldoze them, and then after the fumbled 217 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: punt of the Rams, I thought, oh, they're gonna There 218 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: were a couple different times that I thought Seattle was 219 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: going to pull away the energy in the stadium, the 220 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: energy with the team. But they kept coming back, and 221 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: they kept coming back because of one reason. It wasn't 222 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: their defense. Darnold was moving up and down the field 223 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: of the defense. The reason they kept coming back with 224 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: this pass. I mean, give me a break. That's Colby Parkinson, 225 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: the former Seahawk. I mean the reason they were in 226 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: that game and there were multiple times they could have folded, 227 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: was Matt Stafford. God, he was good yesterday. Here's Matt 228 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: Hasselbeck on just an incredibly remarkably agile and gifted performance 229 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: in a loss by Stafford. 230 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 8: He's aging in reverse calling. I'd send him for five 231 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 8: more years. Okay, the dude. The dude was so injured 232 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 8: he couldn't even do handoffs in training camp. He looked 233 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 8: like he was constipated coming out to practice his first 234 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 8: day back, and now he looks better and younger than 235 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 8: he's ever looked in his life. Sign a five year deal, man, 236 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 8: like keep going he was the MVP of the league. 237 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 8: He had an amazing year. He's in lockstep with his 238 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 8: GM head coach. 239 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: No, he'll be back. 240 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 8: I'd be shocked if he wasn't back. 241 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons Tom Brady aged so well 242 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: is not just that he takes care of himself, is 243 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: that Tom was a pocket quarterback and as he aged, 244 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers ran around more. As he aged, Aaron looked old. 245 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: He was still good, but Aaron looks all because Aaron's 246 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: mobility was such an asset in his prime. But Stafford's 247 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: never been a run around guy and Tom Brady was 248 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: never a run around guy. They're known for their brain 249 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: power pre snap. Both moved very well in the pocket. 250 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: But I've said this before about Stafford, and this really 251 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: speaks to how great he is as a Los Angeles RAM. 252 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: In his ten playoff games, again, this is against the 253 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: very best teams, often on the road, Stafford has twenty 254 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: one touchdowns and four picks as a RAM playoff quarterback, 255 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: one hundred and four passer rating and over three hundred. 256 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 6: Passing yards per game. 257 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: I mean, after that muffed punt when he brought them 258 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: down the field, boom boom, boom three absolute darts and 259 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, and the other thing is the coaching in 260 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: this game was so good and the efficiency of it was. 261 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: I mean, we got very lucky the Denver New England 262 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: game Blizzard, and I didn't check the weather the day 263 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: of the game. I'm thinking, now, it's probably gonna be 264 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: wet and sloppy. And then they went to the pregame 265 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: show and I'm like, oh god, it's great. It's absolutely great. So, 266 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, McVeigh sort of snapped when somebody said, is 267 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,599 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford coming back? But I asked, Matt hasseback the 268 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: same thing. I mean in camp, you know, in camp, 269 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: if this was a great quarterback draft, I do think 270 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: the Rams would draft a quarterback in the first round. 271 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 6: It's not. 272 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: And I don't think they're going to reach for Ty 273 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: Simpson and give up picks because I do think they 274 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: need two corners. Thought they would take one last year. 275 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: I think they need minimum one offensive tackle, a right tackle. 276 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: I think they need another receiver as DeVante Adams ages. 277 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: I think they could actually get another safe an inside 278 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: linebacker in house. So they they've got things they've got 279 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: to shore up. Because if you're gonna sign Stafford. Remember this, 280 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: Stafford has some leverage. Now, A he's unbelievable and B 281 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: it's a bad quarterback draft. So the Rams are not 282 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: gonna get as good a deal on Stafford as they 283 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: just got. Now, the good news is nobody on that 284 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: defense is getting paid much money. And the other thing 285 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: is they have a lot of picks, so the Rams 286 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: will be able to mitigate the Stafford contract. 287 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 6: If I'm Matt Stafford, I'm. 288 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: Gonna say, guys, I took one for the team. 289 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 6: I'm done taking one for the team. 290 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: Because Stafford took I wouldn't say it was a team 291 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: friendly deal, but it was not a punitive contract. So 292 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: Stafford took a pretty Ram favorable deal. 293 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 6: And if you're if you're Matt Stafford. 294 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: You're gonna come back say, guys, I took one for 295 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: the team. 296 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 6: I want a two year deal. Well what are the. 297 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 1: Rams going to do? I mean where theyre going to go? 298 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: Stafford was fifty touchdowns, nine picks. It was insane year 299 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: and if you watch that game in Seattle, give me 300 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: a break. Guy was absolutely on fire. So the Rams 301 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: are going to have to pay him, probably a two 302 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: year contract. 303 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 6: I would do it in a heartbeat. 304 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: But that's why I don't think they're going to reach 305 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: for ty Simpson because they need their two first, their second, 306 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: their third, they're two fifths, their sixth and two seventh. 307 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: They got to shore up the secondary. They got to 308 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: get another receiver, they got to get a tackle, and 309 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: they got to get some. 310 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 6: They hit on draftic. 311 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: They got to get some inexpensive guys in the middle 312 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: and backup of that roster. So I mean that that's 313 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: the down. So I here Sean McVay when asked about 314 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: Stafford's future. 315 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that's I mean, if he if he 316 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 9: still wants to play. The whole kind of question is 317 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 9: that you have to ask him. We've been totally present. 318 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 9: I know that if he wants to he's still playing 319 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 9: at a pre damn good clip. 320 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: I mean, he's the MVP of the league. And if 321 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 3: he's not, you know, I. 322 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 9: Mean, I got respect for everybody else, but this guy 323 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 9: played at a level it's just different. 324 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's he's got to have a little leverage. Though. 325 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: The Rams rolled the dice on this. The Rams are like, listen, 326 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: we'll bring you back. We could draft the quarterback. We're 327 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: gonna bring you back. Garoppolo's the backup Stetson Bennett, so 328 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: those guys don't sniff the field except in preseason, so 329 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: you know, but I do think now Stafford's got the leverage. 330 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: But again, the Rams are in a good spot because 331 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: they got a lot of draft picks. And I've always 332 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: said this, Remember when the Rams had to pay Golf 333 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: and Stafford, how did they do that? Well, they were 334 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: top heavy, but they were still very good. And you 335 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: have to hit on draft picks. I mean they hit 336 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: on Young, they hit on Verse, they hit I mean 337 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: they they're left tackle was undrafted, so they're they're not 338 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: expensive anywhere on defense yet Poona Ford's kind of costly. 339 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: But I think they just redid a deal for Landman, 340 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: the linebacker. But they're in a really good spot. But 341 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: I think if you're Matt Stafford, you took one for 342 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: the team. 343 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 6: He go get paid. 344 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: And just just a reminder is he won't be the 345 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: highest paid quarterback in the league because I think Matt 346 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: Stafford appreciates what McVeigh brings to the table. But if 347 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: this was a great quarterback draft class, they would have 348 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: more a little bit more leverage. 349 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 6: But it's not. 350 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: I think you have Mendoza and then you got Ty Simpson. 351 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: And there's about six teams that are going to reach 352 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: on Ty Simpson, Drew Brees around the corner. 353 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 6: It's the Hurt. 354 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 355 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: and Noone Eastern, non a em Pacific on Fox Sports 356 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 357 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 10: Hey, it's Ben, host of The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller. 358 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 10: Would mean a lot to have you join us on 359 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 10: our weekly auditory journey. 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Listen to The Fifth Hour with 366 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 10: Ben Mather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever 367 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 10: you get your podcast. 368 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: Is one of the few quarterbacks where he goes to 369 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: a place and people just don't give up on him. 370 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: Then he goes and finds his guy in Drew in 371 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: Sean Payton. He goes to New Orleans because I always 372 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: felt in the NFL. If your first team, if you 373 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: weren't a star with your first team, like a lot 374 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: of people just give up on you. And it's like, 375 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: thank god they don't, because Baker Mayfield's rebuilt his career 376 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: Sam Donald, Gino Smith. But it always felt like to me, 377 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: if you didn't have a great first six seven great 378 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: years with your first team, a lot of people just like, ah, 379 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 1: he's not the guy. Let's go get the next quarterback. 380 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: And that's just not the way it works. A lot 381 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: of these guys go to bad, poorly run team. Sam 382 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: Darnald goes to the Jets, but then he goes to 383 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 1: Carolina and so he's been with five teams, four of 384 00:17:58,520 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: them he's had a winning record. 385 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 6: The Jets thing didn't work. 386 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: And Drew Brees is now the twenty NFL seasons Super 387 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: Bowl winner and MVP, going to be eligible and is 388 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: going to make it first ballot Hall of Fame in 389 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. I watched Donald and it's hard for 390 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: me not to root for him because I know how 391 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: bad it was in New York. When you watch him 392 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: and when you watched him broadcasting or playing, are you 393 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: surprised that he's transformed into a really high end quarterback. 394 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 11: No, I'm not surprised, you know, I've I haven't spent 395 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 11: much time with Sam, but I can say this, there's 396 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 11: not a person I met who doesn't who knows Sam, 397 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 11: who doesn't love him, not just as a person, but 398 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 11: appreciates his work ethic, it appreciates everything in the way 399 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 11: that he approaches his craft. And so it's guys like 400 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 11: Sam Donald and the journey that he's had over the 401 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 11: last couple of years. 402 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 3: It's part of what makes the NFL so great. 403 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 11: It's also part of what inspires you in a lot 404 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 11: of ways to realize that. You know, there's so much 405 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 11: goes into playing that position and being successful at that position. 406 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 11: And for a lot of guys, hey, it may not 407 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 11: be a year one or year two or year three. 408 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 11: That could be a combination of their own personal growth 409 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 11: and development. It could be partly their circumstances right and 410 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 11: being in a tough environment. In most cases, guys that 411 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 11: are drafted really high, like Sam Donald being drafted number one, 412 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 11: they're going to teams that have a lot greater issues 413 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 11: than just trying to solve the quarterback position. They've got 414 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 11: a lot of holes to fill, a lot of voice 415 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 11: to fill and typically it takes time. And do I 416 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 11: think that in many cases we've you know, unfortunately, you know, 417 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 11: done the wrong thing when it came to a lot 418 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 11: of these young quarterbacks and maybe let them down, you know, 419 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 11: I yes, I do, because there are. 420 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 3: There is so much that goes into it. 421 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 11: And honestly, I think guys too, like Sam Donald, wouldn't 422 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 11: be the player or person he is right now if 423 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 11: it wasn't for going through the university that he went 424 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 11: through in New York and Carolina. Same with Baker Mayfield. 425 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 11: I'm sure he would say the same things. I've heard 426 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 11: those guys talk about those things. I know it was 427 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 11: that way for me with the San Diego Chargers. You know, 428 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 11: I got people forget I got bench three times with 429 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 11: Marty schottthhemer in two thousand and three. 430 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 3: That was not a good experience, right, That was like 431 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 3: a shot to the confidence. And yet it's. 432 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 11: Also what helped the fire burn, you know, even even 433 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 11: hotter as my career went on, always feeling like I 434 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 11: has something to prove. Chip on the shoulder, and you 435 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 11: just feel that with Sam Donald, but he's handled it 436 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 11: with a lot of class. And I just watched the 437 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 11: way his teammates talk about him, you know. I mean, 438 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 11: they can't say enough great things about him, and I 439 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 11: love seeing the success that he's have. 440 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: I actually, when the game was over, felt bad for 441 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford. I thought to myself, I've never seen a 442 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: quarterback play that well and lose. And I'm sure, hey, listen, 443 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: I know what happened to you at Purdue. Well, you know, 444 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: you throw throw for four hundred yards and you can't 445 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: overcome you know, a really great team. But in your career, 446 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: what is the difference when you played great drew and 447 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: you did and you come up short in a big game. 448 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: It does it last with you the offseason? I mean, 449 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: is is that a pretty ti or do you feel like, hey, 450 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: I gave it my best, I played well. We lost 451 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: because Stafford was brilliant for most of that game. 452 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 11: Yeah, yes, it does last. I mean I certainly, I 453 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 11: think any great competitor is always going to think about, 454 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 11: you know, some of the ones that got away, and 455 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 11: maybe there's a player too that just kind of linger. 456 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 11: Stafford has played phenomenal all season long. He's played phenomenal 457 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 11: throughout the playoffs. I mean, you forget as good as 458 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 11: the Rams were this year. They just happened to play 459 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 11: in a really, really tough division. The only reason they 460 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 11: weren't the one seed is because they lost at Seattle 461 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 11: six weeks ago with some crazy sequences of events, right, 462 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 11: the two point conversion over time going forward, you know, 463 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 11: at the end, or else they would have been the 464 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 11: one seed. Right, So they have to go to Carolina 465 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 11: where they need a two minute drive to win, They 466 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 11: have to go to the Bears, where they need overtime 467 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 11: to win, right, like all the crazy sequence of events, 468 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 11: and then even in this game, you've they had a 469 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 11: chance there at the end, right, all they needed was 470 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 11: one final possession. They go down, they get stopped inside 471 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 11: the ten after they were just rolling. So I think 472 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 11: that's probably the moment that's gonna that's gonna sit and 473 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 11: maybe eat at them a little bit. 474 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 3: But at the same time, there is no doubt the Rams. 475 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 11: Look, I hope Stafford keeps playing for another three four years, 476 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 11: you know, because I think that team is built to win. 477 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. 478 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: So Seattle was the second best road team in the league, 479 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: which is impressive because they're young. The best road team 480 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: was New England. So the two best road teams are 481 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: meeting in the Super Bowl, and I think it speaks 482 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: to certain things like coaching and intelligence. I think a 483 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: lot of things travel, like smart teams. It travels, but 484 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that don't necessarily travel, like 485 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: a like a vertical passing game. If you go into 486 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: bad weather, you can't take it with you. But what 487 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 1: do you think when you look at Seattle in New 488 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: England's great success on the road, it's unbelievable, Like, how 489 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: did New England didn't lose a own game this year? 490 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: What does it tell you about their team? 491 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,959 Speaker 3: Well, let's let's start with New England. 492 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 11: Look that the job Mike Vrabel's done is remarkable. 493 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: You know. 494 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 11: I did have the chance to broadcast one of their games, 495 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 11: and I think what suck out to me was, Look, 496 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 11: I remember i Vrabel as a player man hard knows, tough, love, confrontation, 497 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 11: Like he was just one. 498 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 3: Of those players. Man. I see a side to him. 499 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 11: I don't want to say like a softer side, because 500 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 11: that's not the way to say it, but it's a 501 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 11: side of him that has become such an unbelievable like 502 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 11: teacher and motivator of men, but in a way that 503 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 11: is like so caring and thoughtful, but also just so 504 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 11: wrapped up in like identity and who we are and 505 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 11: what our standard is, and like he uses the term protector, 506 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 11: protector identity every time we step on the field, and 507 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 11: so to me, that's the epitome of what they've done 508 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 11: by going on the road. In a lot of cases, 509 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 11: that's protecting your identity at home is a lot easier 510 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 11: then all of a sudden, you go on the road 511 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 11: in a hustle environment with different circumstances and things that 512 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 11: are out of your control, and at times you kind. 513 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 3: Of lose track of that. 514 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 11: And I think, just like that Madra for him and 515 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 11: his team, like I see that, Yes, he's got a 516 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 11: great quarterback who's super composed, who actually reminds me a 517 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 11: lot of Matt Stafford just and his purity of throwing 518 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 11: the ball and his composure and all those things. I 519 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 11: wouldn't say again, I don't want this to come across 520 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 11: the long way. I don't see New England as just 521 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 11: a team full of superstars. I see them as a 522 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 11: team who is just everyone has embraced their role in 523 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 11: helping for that group to be successful, and they're just 524 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 11: kind of have this gritty find a way mentality. 525 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 3: Then Seattle, on. 526 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 11: The other hand, maybe that's a team that just flew 527 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,239 Speaker 11: under the radar for a bit and coach McDonald has 528 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 11: done a phenomenal job with those guys, and just that 529 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 11: you know, Sam Donold come in and just kind of 530 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 11: obviously nobody knew what to expect with Jas and just 531 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 11: a phenomenal year that he had. 532 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 3: But I meant little things like going out and getting 533 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: brashisha Head. 534 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 11: I mean, you can't tell me that that guy wasn't 535 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 11: an impact player for them down the stretch. They win 536 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 11: the Rams game in the regular season because of him. 537 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 11: He sets the tone early in the playoffs with that 538 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 11: kickoff return against the Niners, made a big play early 539 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 11: on in the game yesterday, the deep ball from Sam 540 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 11: so like I just said, I looked at some of 541 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 11: the super like the star power they have on that team, 542 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 11: but how those guys were acquired and brought in and 543 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 11: it was just masterful. It was masterful. And then the defensively, 544 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 11: I just think they they feel like they're just going 545 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 11: to come in and. 546 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 3: Beat you up. 547 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and by the way they do, they just 548 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: they are physical and relentless. 549 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays 550 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 2: in neon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 551 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 552 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,239 Speaker 1: So you get two weeks before a Super Bowl. Now, 553 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: when you got to one, you'd been around the block. 554 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: You know you were You know, Drake May is a puppy, 555 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: He's a kid. Sam's gotten beat up a little bit 556 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: by the league. So I don't think it'll change much. 557 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: But the Seahawks are very very young as a team. 558 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: So you know, you tell me you don't want paralysis 559 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: by analysis. You want to take a deep breath. You 560 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: want to play your same game. But it's the biggest 561 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: game of your life. It is an unbelievable pressure. Do 562 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: you look back at the two weeks before the Super 563 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: Bowl fondly or were you a bit of a nervous. 564 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 6: Wreck until the whistle until the kickoff? 565 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 9: Yeah? 566 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 11: I mean, look a nervous wreck from the perspective, I'm 567 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 11: kind of that way throughout the week of preparation, no 568 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 11: matter what game it is, just because you just take 569 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 11: so much pride in what you're doing. You want to 570 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 11: go out there and play well for your team. 571 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 3: But I would say this. 572 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 11: Was kind of interesting maybe about our Super Bowl run look, 573 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 11: you remember we played the Indianapolis Colts. You know, on paper, 574 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 11: that was the best team in football, maybe one of 575 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 11: the best teams ever, right, And so I think all 576 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 11: the talk was in and around them, and I think 577 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 11: we kind of felt like. 578 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: We were flying under the radar a little bit. In fact, 579 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 3: Like I think when the Super Bowl line opened up 580 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 3: on our game it was Colts by seven or seven 581 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 3: and a half. It was something crazy. 582 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 11: And I just remember one of our early team meetings, 583 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 11: Sean Payton getting up there and being like, here's the 584 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 11: way Vegas sees is, here's the way the fans see us. 585 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 11: Like everybody thinks we got no chance, but I'm telling 586 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 11: you right now. 587 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 3: We are the better team. 588 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 11: So like from the very beginning, we truly felt like 589 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 11: we were the better team. 590 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 3: Now we were going to. 591 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 11: Go out there and play aggressive and pull out all 592 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 11: the stops, hence the onside kick to open up the 593 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 11: second half and all that stuff. But I think so 594 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 11: much of it is creating this US against the world 595 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 11: mentality and nobody knows until what we're going to show 596 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 11: them here, you know, on game day, and just feeling 597 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 11: like you're just you know, kind of circling the wagons 598 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 11: and you know, nobody's giving us a shot here, creating 599 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 11: a little bit of that age, you know, to your 600 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 11: team going into it. 601 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 602 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 6: No, I said this earlier. 603 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: I said New England Vrabel is going to pounce on 604 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: They're already a five point dog, I said, I guarantee 605 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: sure he is going to play every SoundBite and show 606 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: him every clip, so that it is an advantage. I 607 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: want to ask you, it's funny the NFL is so cyclical. 608 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: It's an offensive league. But now we've got two defensive 609 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: coaches in, and Jesse Minter got the Ravens game, and 610 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: Josh Allen doesn't have a coach, So this is the 611 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: first time since Belichick got to a Super Bowl that 612 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: we have defensive guys in. 613 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 6: But I think the league is. 614 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: Cyclical, like we were told three years ago, running games 615 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: didn't matter. Well, I just watched Walker and Kyron Williams 616 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: and Blake corm I'm like, I'm sorry, but running backs 617 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: were unbelievably there yesterday. I want to ask you, Mike 618 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: McCarthy to the Steelers offensive coach. I think he'll make 619 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: the sensibility will matter. Josh Allen, I think I would 620 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: like Brian dabole. But I think it is interesting that 621 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: Mike McDonald and Vrabel are defensive guys, but they you 622 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: can feel their love for their young quarterbacks. And I'm 623 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: not anti defensive coach, but there is something to be 624 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: said about getting offense understanding the sensibility. Are you surprised 625 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: Vrabel and McDonald they just seem to get their quarterback 626 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: and not in some defensive coaches. Drew, I just don't 627 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: feel like that they're old school, they won't go for it. 628 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. 629 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: It feels like I've got these two defensive coaches that 630 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: almost think like offensive guys. 631 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 6: Does that make sense, Well, that's. 632 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 11: Because they That's because they know what they're going up 633 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 11: against every time they step on the field and how 634 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 11: they're trying to be attacked. 635 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 3: This is what I say about those two guys. 636 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 11: In this day and age, more so than ever, with 637 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 11: head coaches, it's about being a great CEO. It's about 638 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 11: going out and getting coaches on both sides of the ball, 639 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 11: on offense and defense that you trust to implement a system. 640 00:29:55,160 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 11: And then you trust the general manager and we're can 641 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 11: collaborate collaboratively with him to go get the personnel that 642 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 11: fits the systems. But in reality, then your role as 643 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 11: that head coach and as that CEOs you manage your staff, 644 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 11: but you, more so than ever, are implementing what you 645 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 11: feel like are the keys to victory and the mindset 646 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 11: that it takes to win. But more importantly, to adhere 647 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 11: to a standard like that, more so than ever now 648 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 11: is the role and job of the head coach. You 649 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 11: set the standard, you hold everyone accountable to the standard. 650 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 11: And so while you may skew one direction or the other, 651 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 11: like hey, I came from the offensive side of the ball, 652 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 11: or I came from the defensive side of the ball, 653 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 11: And yes you may have contributions schematically to those sides 654 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 11: of the ball, in reality you are just now I. 655 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 3: Am managing the game. I'm managing my team. 656 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 11: I'm making sure these guys are ready to play right, 657 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,959 Speaker 11: that they have the right mindset, Like that is what 658 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 11: it's all about. And I can't think of two better 659 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 11: guys that are coaching in this game with Mike McDonald 660 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 11: and Mike Vrabel that like just embody that mentality. 661 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: Finally minute left, it didn't bother me. On McVeigh going 662 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: for it and fourth four or Sean Payton going for 663 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: it didn't love Sean going for it? 664 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 6: Did it? 665 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: Did it? 666 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 6: How did it land for you? 667 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 3: Well, it's hindsight's right, tory twenty. 668 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 11: But you know, the Denver game, I think at that point, 669 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 11: to take the points and go up two possessions, I 670 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 11: think it's pretty significant, right of course, you know it's 671 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 11: fourth and one. 672 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 3: You feel pretty good. 673 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 11: Now, Look have they tried to pound it, you know, 674 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 11: and just get stuffed and you're like, ah, you know, 675 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 11: we we weren't good enough to get it. You know, 676 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 11: you try to pull out a little trickery with the 677 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 11: Nate with the bootleg. But nonetheless, I think going up 678 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 11: two possessions in a game like that with a young 679 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 11: quarterback where you just all of a sudden shift the 680 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 11: pressure to the other side. Oh, by the way, you know, 681 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 11: as good as Drake mays Van, he's still a young quarterback. 682 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 3: That's still a young you know. So I played at home. 683 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 3: Maybe take the points there. 684 00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 11: I mean, look with McVeigh, you know you're and you got. 685 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford, right, and you got all these weapons, right. Yeah. 686 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 11: I think I tend to feel like in those types 687 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 11: of games, you take points, you take your points. 688 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I get I get it. 689 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: I think there's some analytics. I buy some I don't. 690 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: I in these games with the best defenses, I like points. 691 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: Drew Brees, you were great today as almost twenty seasons. 692 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 6: Going to be a Hall of Famer. He's eligible for 693 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 6: the Hall of Fame this year. Can't wait. Drew Brees, 694 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 6: great stuff. Thanks, thanks, Drew Bracy, all right, good. 695 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: Seeing you eligible this year for the Hall of Fame. 696 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: And he's going to get in thirteen Pro Bowls, five 697 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: All Pros. Yeah, listen, we can argue back and forth. 698 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: I mean you look at Stafford and you're like, we 699 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: got Seattle backed up. It's hard enough to get down 700 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: the field. We got to take these points. I get it. 701 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: I also think Drew made a great point. If you 702 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: go for a run and it doesn't work, then you 703 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: can just say, well, when you try to get kind 704 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: of clever and roll out without bow knicks, that's much 705 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: easier to criticize. Oh again, Hindsight's twenty twenty great stuff, 706 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: Drew Brees, money today, Matt hasseled back, fantastic. 707 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 6: We're at a time. See you them on