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Speaker 1: Star in fris Joe Hellowing did they live? Says dot

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Speaker 1: and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: and Kyle Yeoman's three hundred and seventy seven days ago

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Speaker 1: we embarked on a journey, a journey that included a

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Speaker 1: are just firing on all cylinders Robs, Rob Phillips. We

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Speaker 1: but hey, that's you know, that's life, and we're making

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Speaker 1: it work. It's so refreshing to not only have it

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Speaker 1: everyone around Talking Cowboys that has listened to the show

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Speaker 1: quality is here and we're ready to roll. The happiest

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Speaker 1: person about this is Chris Beam next time the question easy,

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Speaker 1: But man, we are pumped about this, but we do

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Speaker 1: have some breaking news to go to right off the top,

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Speaker 1: fitting that we're all in all in studio for this.

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Speaker 1: But Rob tell us what this breaking news is and

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Speaker 1: what just came down in Dallas Cowboys land as of

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Speaker 1: about what three minutes ago, Yeah, Todd Archer VSPN has

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Speaker 1: you know, Cowboys haven't officially announced it. I would expect

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Speaker 1: But still a really good career. And you talk about

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Speaker 1: And I'm saying that specifically for Isaiah standback, But do

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Speaker 1: this is taking a life of his own. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I could see more and I could do more, you

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Speaker 1: know why Rob he Lord. Yeah, yeah, all right, that's it.

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Speaker 1: I'm out of I'm afraid he's so much better. It

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Speaker 1: ain't smoking here in the kate man. That's the raising

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand back as I'm Kyle Yeoman's and

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Speaker 1: just wait for the bows. Read there's something immense. I

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Speaker 1: have nothing. I have nothing for that. You should have something.

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Speaker 1: I have nothing. Man, Rob's gonna get to put them

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Speaker 1: on because it is fantastic. Can put him on? That's okay.

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Speaker 1: I don't. It's okay. I can't pull it off like Isai.

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Speaker 1: That's fair. I could you there? Uh. Cowboys Mailbag Monday.

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Speaker 1: This is a new segment we've done throughout the off

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Speaker 1: season so far about taking a mailback question that you

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Speaker 1: could go read on Dallas Cowboys dot com. This one

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Speaker 1: specifically was this past week and it was answered by

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Speaker 1: Dave and Johnny and they had great answers for this.

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Speaker 1: But I want to hear y'all's thoughts. And this has

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Speaker 1: to do with Patrick du Tan if he is the

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Speaker 1: number ten pick in the NFL Draft with the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: which at least at this moment, seems like little the

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Speaker 1: likely choice. It shouldn't happen. But if Caleb Farley, the

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Speaker 1: Virginia Tech corner, drops down to number forty four due

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Speaker 1: to his injury concerns, but he's still rated in the

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Speaker 1: top twenty by the Cowboys, do you think they would

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Speaker 1: draft him as well? Or would they pass on him

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Speaker 1: since they've already drafted Sir Tan in the first round.

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Speaker 1: You're shaking your head them. You would do it anyway,

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Speaker 1: grab them. If you've already made that commitment at that position,

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Speaker 1: you might as well go all in. You might as

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Speaker 1: well go all in if you're not gonna go get

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Speaker 1: my guy Parsons, and you might as well go ahead

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Speaker 1: and get curs In right and get you get him,

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Speaker 1: and then if you have another opportunity to get another

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Speaker 1: corner that you believe in but simply just have some

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Speaker 1: health concerns, well, you have the best training staff in

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Speaker 1: the league over here, so if they'll check them out,

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Speaker 1: and if they feel like he's ready, he's ready to rumble,

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Speaker 1: then go grab him. Then you have two you have

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Speaker 1: three young corners. You have three young corners at that point, right,

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Speaker 1: It gets me really excited. But but but you still

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Speaker 1: have issues with the run, Yes, you do. Sure, So

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Speaker 1: if you don't fix that there, if you don't fix

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Speaker 1: that on the back end, doesn't matter. You can't. I

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Speaker 1: can't heccet that too. Yeah, if you can't get to

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Speaker 1: the quarterback and if you can't stop the run, you

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Speaker 1: still have the same issues no matter how competitive you

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Speaker 1: are on the outside. Because I don't want to take

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Speaker 1: this away from the corners in the league. Corners are

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Speaker 1: amazing in the league. However, we all know it doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter how good of a corner you are. I don't

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Speaker 1: care if you're Daryl Reeves Island. If that quarterback has

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Speaker 1: five secons to throw the ball, somebody's smoking. Yeah, somebody's

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Speaker 1: getting open. So that's why I don't lead with corner now.

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Speaker 1: But if you already made a commitment, then you might

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Speaker 1: as well go ahead and round it out and solidify

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Speaker 1: your solidify it for your future. Oh God, but though,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I love Caleb Farley to me pre draft,

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Speaker 1: and I guess all the writers and before we realize

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Speaker 1: that he had the back injury, he was right up

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Speaker 1: there with I mean, everyone was talking about him and

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Speaker 1: Patrick certain in the same sentence. And now with the

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Speaker 1: back injury, he's the back operations. He's an afterthought in

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Speaker 1: this process. And then you know you talk about doubling

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Speaker 1: down with him and Patrick certain. I mean, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about what we have on the team already, right, So

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Speaker 1: we have Trey Von Diggs, We've already signed Lewis, we

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Speaker 1: have a b what you know, Look, we're getting young.

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Speaker 1: I guess I understand you bring in more talent than

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Speaker 1: these guys. Are definitely talented guys. But if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: double dip in anything, it's gonna be interior line, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be edge rusher, it's gonna be line back. Are

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Speaker 1: you confident in Jordan Lewis and Antony or excuse me,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Brown almost said Antonio Brown and Treyvon Dix and

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Speaker 1: Treyvon Dis I mean Diggs. I feel like we're all

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Speaker 1: pretty confident in, right, But are you? Is it those

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Speaker 1: other two? Do they give you any kind of hesitation whatsoever? No?

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Speaker 1: And I think you're not. You're not giving credence to

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Speaker 1: what dan Quinn is gonna do with those guys in

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Speaker 1: this systems the case. No, you have the same hope

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Speaker 1: you had to. That's what I was just about to say.

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Speaker 1: You have the same hope with Mike Nolan. So you

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Speaker 1: have to put it on the defensive coordinators and staff

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Speaker 1: to make these guys that you've signed to these contracts better.

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Speaker 1: You realize, like just what you just said, Isaiah, let's

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Speaker 1: double dip. If you do that, we're gonna go all

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Speaker 1: in on it. But you know what fixes this defense

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Speaker 1: and this one techniques and three techniques and linebackers. I

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Speaker 1: don't disagree with you on never regard. I'm just talking

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Speaker 1: about what you have opportunity to get a dominant player

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Speaker 1: at another position aside from corner in terms of addressing

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Speaker 1: your interior linement or your second level linebacker. If you

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Speaker 1: choose to pass on that opportunity, then you missed your

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Speaker 1: big opportunity, right, So you might at least get lead

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Speaker 1: because they're gonna be starters in the second round. I

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Speaker 1: mean we knew that already at corner, at linebacker, at

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle, it could be anywhere you're gonna get a

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Speaker 1: starter in the second round. Yeah, I agree. I think

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Speaker 1: you can find it's easier to find competitive defensive alignment

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Speaker 1: than I think it is to find impact corners. See,

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Speaker 1: but I think that's the thing that makes Caleb Farley

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Speaker 1: an intriguing case at forty four is because he could

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Speaker 1: be an impact corner if if you were a select

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Speaker 1: a man. Yeah, but that's that's the message that would

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Speaker 1: be sent by the Cowboys training staff if they selected

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Speaker 1: him with that pick. That means one, they've seen it

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Speaker 1: and they feel really good about how the back's gonna

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Speaker 1: heal up. But just the things you hear is just

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Speaker 1: league wide. The biggest challenge right now pre draft is

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Speaker 1: the medical stuff because because you're just I mean, they

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Speaker 1: did one hundred and fifty medical reachecks and he was

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Speaker 1: one of us. He was one of them. Drew Rosenhals's agent,

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Speaker 1: of course, came out and said, yeah, he's good. He's

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Speaker 1: first round and you know what, he very well might.

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Speaker 1: And Isaiah made a great point, like the Cowboys have

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Speaker 1: so much trust in their medical staff, they're athletic training

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Speaker 1: staff that this is they have a pattern of this

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Speaker 1: in the second round. I mean, Jalen Smith, you can

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Speaker 1: go back to Sean Lee, we just talked about him.

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Speaker 1: Vanderesh that's a first round pick, first round, but premium

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Speaker 1: pack Bruce Carter in the second round few years ago.

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Speaker 1: They are not afraid to find value and take a

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Speaker 1: guy that should have been a first round pick in

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Speaker 1: the second round. Now it depends on their evaluation of

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Speaker 1: the medical and whether he would be there. But I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: if he's really highly rated on their board, yeah take

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Speaker 1: you know, just get get your best value off of

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Speaker 1: no matter what you do in the first And this

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Speaker 1: draft is so crazy crazy, it is crazy and in

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Speaker 1: years past and just knowing where guys are gonna fall

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Speaker 1: based off of their performance in college, the opt out scene,

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Speaker 1: you know, the guys that are gonna end up following

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Speaker 1: because they opted out. They're gonna be some teams that

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Speaker 1: are gonna get some dogs that should have been in

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Speaker 1: that top fifty that are gonna fall out of you know,

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Speaker 1: top one hundred, just based off of evaluation because you

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Speaker 1: hadn't seen this guy in the year. And you're seeing

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Speaker 1: that at the top of this draft right now with

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Speaker 1: saying you're gonna take five quarterbacks. These are like one

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Speaker 1: and done guys. The only guy that has a resume

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Speaker 1: is Trevor Lawrence. Ye, the only guy that has a

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Speaker 1: resume out of those five that you can say, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: he the guy that you've seen in those big game moments.

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Speaker 1: Do it. Mac Jones I mean, come on, dude, he

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Speaker 1: was played by Alabama. It was yeah somewhere you know,

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Speaker 1: guys are just spending just saying, how is Mac Jones

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Speaker 1: gonna go to San Francisco? And I don't believe that's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. But still even with the guy from North Dakota,

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Speaker 1: even with Justin Fields, I just don't feel like they've

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Speaker 1: put it on tape. Yeah, and I think you're right,

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Speaker 1: and it comes to me. Pat Mahomes is the reason

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Speaker 1: why I think everybody looks around and says, if we

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Speaker 1: don't have an elite quarterback, then we don't have a chance.

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Speaker 1: And see the exception or the rules. But if you

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Speaker 1: can't match what he's doing on the field, you know,

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Speaker 1: and even Tom Brady at this stage, you can still

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Speaker 1: get it done. It's a quarterbacks league, so you're I mean,

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Speaker 1: it just shows you how important that position is. The

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Speaker 1: Cowboys think they have that guy so they don't have

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Speaker 1: to worry about it, but don't. Yeah, yeah, I hope

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Speaker 1: they're right. But you mentioned the opt out tech man.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point because we just like we don't

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Speaker 1: know how the scouts are feeling on specific prospects. How

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Speaker 1: I mentioned in the first segment. We also don't know

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Speaker 1: how front offices are going to weigh the opt outs,

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Speaker 1: because when it comes to Jamar Chase, Rashad Bateman, players

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Speaker 1: like that at the wide receiver position. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: want to go to offensive tackle Pena Seul, Rashaan Slater,

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Speaker 1: Quinn Miners out of Wisconsin, Whitewater at the guard spot.

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00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many of these guys that were

641
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: opt outs. Michael Parsons one of those. How are we

642
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: going to weigh that as a front office and across

643
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: the league, because some are going to weigh it higher

644
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: than others. But you could see Penna Sul fall because

645
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: heven an opt out. You could see Rashawn's later fall

646
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: because he's an opt out. Michael Parsons. Indeed, if he

647
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: played last year, I'm sure he'd probably be still in

648
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: a conversation at least with the top ten pick. But they're,

649
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: like Heckma said, there are going to be opt outs

650
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: that fall further than others, just based off of the

651
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: fact that the value is kind of an intriguing one

652
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: For these front offices. I think those are more like

653
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: second round guys and below. I would say it our

654
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: front enter fall I don't see any first round guys

655
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: really falling simply because of that. I think guys, the

656
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: scouts pretty much they know who those guys are. And

657
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 1: you started looking at some of the talent that's one

658
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: step maybe unberneath them. That's when you start saying, oh,

659
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: if they would have played, maybe they would have been higher,

660
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: right or you know, we don't really know because we

661
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: don't have any film, but those when you started talking

662
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: about top twenty top twenty picks, you know what you're getting.

663
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: You know what you getting. So I don't think it's

664
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: gonna have any effect over those guys. Yeah, I just

665
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you hold it against somebody for

666
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: opting out over the situation that we had a huge

667
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: YEW months ago. I mean, it wasn't to me. That's

668
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: not a character issue, you know. You just I don't

669
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: want to play this year. We didn't know what the

670
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: hell was going on with the virus back in July August,

671
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: and guys made a decision to protect their safety. So

672
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: I don't blame anybody from them that. Yeah, to me,

673
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: it's just the evaluation process has changed this year, from

674
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl to the to Indianapolis and guys running

675
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: the Pro day, everybody ran a four four four three,

676
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: But you didn't have that guy from the Steelers and

677
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: the action track telling I come back. They were giving

678
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: out some pretty good numbers on everybody. I just look,

679
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: I just feel like in those later rounds, teams are

680
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: gonna miss because they hadn't had a fairy valuation of guys.

681
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: Are they going to pass on a guy that it

682
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: had he played or not opted out, he would have

683
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: been on everybody's list. It's something to look forward to.

684
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: And of course Kayla Farley is one of those opt outs.

685
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: And Michael Anderson was the one who asked the question

686
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: on the mail back Monday. By the way, I forgot

687
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: to throw his name out there, But so yes or no?

688
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: Would you double dip if the medical they feel good

689
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: about it and it is back like Isaiah said, which

690
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: I mean, is this somebody with a back issue that

691
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: doesn't get better over time and a lot of instances yavity.

692
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: But he's young, he's twenty two, Then yeah, I feel

693
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: good about it. I think he has had other injuries,

694
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: He's had an acl terror, he's had back issues. So

695
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, it comes down to how comfortable they are

696
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: they've done it in the past. I wouldn't wouldn't shock

697
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: me did it again. It also wouldn't shock me if

698
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: he goes late first round because he is such a

699
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: talented prospect. Isaiah, Yes or no. I don't like backs. No,

700
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: I don't like backs. I mean backs, they only take

701
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: one bad little move to tweak, you know, especially in

702
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: a position where you move so much somebody transverse rotational movements.

703
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like backs, So I hate that

704
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: transverse rotational movement. It sounds like a trainer he is. No, man,

705
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not doing it. Yeah, not double dipping

706
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: so well, because you're you're also assuming they take a

707
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: corner first round. You're addressing one position with your top

708
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: two picks, and you can instead of addressing something else,

709
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: like in your defensive line, like linebacker, like something. Okay, Well,

710
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 1: that leads me into my next question is what would

711
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: be the first position that you think would be double

712
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: DipEd on if you if you if you were in

713
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: the spot of the cowboys. Not based off of what

714
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will do, but do you think there's a

715
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: specific spot that you would double dip on more so

716
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: than others Whenever this draft comes around. Uh, well those

717
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: two depending on what your board tells you. It's a

718
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: corner and linebacker. Well, linebacker D defensive tackle D D

719
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: N You know, I know Carlos Basham has been mocked

720
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: a lot to the Cowboys at forty few in our

721
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: first round, did they? Yeah? I mean offensive tackle too.

722
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: This is a pretty deep tackle class even. You know,

723
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: we talked about the top guys, you know, in the

724
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: top fifteen or so, but there's guys a lot of

725
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: tackles with first second round grades that you see. So

726
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: I would any of those positions really? Yeah, I don't know.

727
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: I think I'm double dipping in that corner. I'm double

728
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: depending the corner. I think that you can find some

729
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: some defensive linement and some linebackers that are still a

730
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: free agents right now. You're so hard to read, man,

731
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: I just don't think. What is that going on? I'm saying,

732
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: are you guys are asking a question about double dipping?

733
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: So you're saying, so elite talent, you would pick a

734
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: linebacker or the tackle, absolutely, but with the depth that

735
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: you need at the corner spot. I get what you're saying.

736
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: If you don't, if you if you say, for instance,

737
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: like like, like I said, if you have the opportunity

738
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: to grab that linebacker parsons, grab them. Yeah, right, But

739
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: if you choose not to, if you choose not to,

740
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: then get certain or whoever else you want in that position,

741
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: and then get another one somewhere else. Might as well

742
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 1: just keep building on it. You might as well build

743
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: on it r because you're already there. You've already committed there,

744
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: so you might as well go ahead and solidify that

745
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: so you can say, hey, I'm done with that. What

746
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: I don't like it again, maybe that's why I'm not

747
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: a gem. But what I don't like is having one

748
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: guy over there, one guy over there. I'd rather say, Okay,

749
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: this position is good, right, I'd rather just put that aside.

750
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: We're good. We don't have to look at that no more. Now,

751
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: let's address this, right. I like to be able to

752
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: put my eyes on one particular thing. And I get

753
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: that you can start helping at certain areas. But I'm

754
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: much rather if you're gonna say, if say, you know,

755
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 1: we take a corner with number ten. If that happens,

756
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: you have to grab another corner. You have to grab

757
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: another corner, and now you put that away now you

758
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: can say, okay, I have my corners situated, I have

759
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: my safety someone situation. Maybe I get another young safety. Okay,

760
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: now I can focus my attention on my front seven

761
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: and you can focus all your attention on that instead

762
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: of trying to put you know you, let me take

763
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: you that one right there, kids, down right there. You're

764
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: still gonna have gaps. Rather, I'd rather have gaps in

765
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: one position than have multiple, you know, little seeping gaps

766
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: in multiple positions. You gotta feel like this explanation just

767
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: proves the point to draft a corner at ten. I

768
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: mean everything. You could clip everything you just said, and

769
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: it would be the perfect reason on the Patrick if

770
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: we don't take ours, if we don't take our off

771
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: season acquisitions into consideration. The reason why I say grab

772
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: a linebacker at ten and grab Parsons at ten, not

773
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: just a linebacker, grab Parsons at tens, is because with

774
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: with the other offseason moves that we've already made, you

775
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: can make a good case for it. That's a solid

776
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: front seven with Neil with with guys coming off of

777
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: coming off an injury, right and some young with Gallimore

778
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: and all those guys that got they got their young

779
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: rips reps already. We have competitive guys that we know

780
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: on on the end. We got d Low, we got Gregory,

781
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: we got some some guys that have some gold juice.

782
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: I feel good about that front seven. You're not alone

783
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: on this staff. Heck, you kind of feel that way.

784
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: Nick Eaton feels that way. Mickey spack Nolan feels that way.

785
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm leaning towards corner, but you can talk me into

786
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: any defensive position. If they tell me this guy is

787
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 1: our best, he's gonna make an impact right away. I'm

788
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: okay with that. But I said that last week, like

789
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: you draft a corner, you have to pay huge contract,

790
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: second contract to a corner. If you hit on a

791
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: corner in the first round, you're gonna have five year deal,

792
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: and then yeah, you have that under contract. If it's

793
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: a pull Bowl type player, I'm thinking more of there's

794
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: your windows for five years right now. But there's no corner.

795
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: There's no corner, name a corner in this league that

796
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: could shut down a number one receiver in this league,

797
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: not one, not one Ramsey. Ramsey's not even shutting down

798
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: a risk the number one receiver. I mean what I'm saying,

799
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: like you put a who you put a Julio on Ramsey,

800
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: Julio is gonna win. He didn't eliminate one side of

801
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: the field. He doesn't shut down one side of the field.

802
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: So that's where I started talking about if if you

803
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: don't have somebody that could shut down one side of

804
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: the field, then you're really just kind of putting the

805
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: guy there that can make plays every so often. The closest,

806
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: the closest thing to having a guy that could shut

807
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 1: down a third of the field would be Byron Jones.

808
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: And you had that here and you didn't value it.

809
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: And now I feel like, so, how do you feel

810
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: like you're gonna You're gonna value that now with Patrick

811
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I'm saying, I think you you

812
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: would have to pay the price at that you you

813
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: let Byron Jones walk, Which if you right now on

814
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: this team this very situation, would you rather have Byron

815
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: Jones or Amari Cooper I'd rather have in a passing league,

816
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say a Marii Cooper. Yeah, with the players

817
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: you have around, yes, absolutely, you can out scheme a defense.

818
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: You just can. You can outschem a defense if you

819
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: have a great offensive coordinator and you say, hey, this guy,

820
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: heck was a heck of a corner. Guess what motion

821
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: I'm motioning across the field now, Heck, we can't guard

822
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: me now, right, So most teams have at least at

823
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: least a two hitted monster receiver, at least a two

824
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: headed monster. I don't think there's one team in this

825
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: league that doesn't have a two headed monsters in the league.

826
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: So you would still have that with gallop and lamb. Yeah,

827
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: but I'm saying. What I'm saying is there's no defense

828
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: that you're gonna face that you said, oh man, we

829
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: can't throw the ball. There's not one. There's not one

830
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: defense in this league. Or you can't say I can't

831
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: throw the ball. Now, there are defenses in this league

832
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: where you say, we might not have that much time

833
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: to throw the ball, or we gotta get the ball

834
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: out quicker, or guess what, our offensive line can't really

835
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: hold up against these guys. There's a lot there's there's

836
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: teams like that. Yeah, but there's no teams where you

837
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: don't feel like you can't throw the ball. So with

838
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: that said, there's a cornerback is not dominant enough of

839
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: a player in this league. Right to go out there

840
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: and grabbing at number ten. That's for me. And Byron

841
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: Jones wasn't that dominant of cornerback for you? He was.

842
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: He was an actute and I'll go with that. But

843
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, based off of our experience it with

844
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: cornerback corner in the league. But there's other guys I

845
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: can throw too, say, don't say. That's the same reason

846
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: why I made the case for the forty nine ers

847
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: picking up pits, because it's like, you pick your poison.

848
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: If you want to stick him cool, I'm going over here.

849
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: You can't stop me, right, So if you can't stop

850
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Speaker 1: me at that receiver position, you almost I don't want

851
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: to say you wasted a pick, but your guy can't

852
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: affect my ability to move the ball. It is the

853
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Speaker 1: it is. It shows you it's a team game. And

854
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: so the perception of a shutdown corner depends on who

855
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Speaker 1: you're playing, who's playing in front of you. I mean,

856
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Speaker 1: if you know, if if Ramsey, I mean he plays

857
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Speaker 1: on a good defense in LA, if he plays in Washington,

858
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: shut down corner because because the guy's right, you know,

859
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: it makes his job so much easier. But Aaron Donald

860
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: what he he does, ramsay everything exactly, everything exactly. So

861
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: who did he have in Jacksonville? Whenever he was being

862
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: really Campbell and what's his name? I can't get guys,

863
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: Saxonville was seven? Come on, come thing? We got something else?

864
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: Front seven, quarterback side from our quarterback. The front seven

865
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: is the most dominant grouping on the field and we

866
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: do not have that, not in Dallas almost you can.

867
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: That's okay, that's another can I love that you just

868
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: crossed that up. What makes you think one player is

869
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: going to change this. It's not gonna be just one

870
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: one player at any spot, doesn't Just like Isaiah, I

871
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: don't think it. You're all we're set, you know, I don't.

872
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if this draft or this offseason can

873
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: totally do that. It might take two years to do it,

874
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: but you can start, you know. And that's just by

875
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: taking the best guys you think can help you. No.

876
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you can debate on which positions help you more,

877
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: and I do lean to you guys with the front seven,

878
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: but the value seems to be with the cornerback position

879
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: in the top ten. And maybe that's you know, maybe

880
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: if you had a dominant edge rusher. And if you

881
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: had somebody that I was not worried about off the

882
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: field coming into this draft, I would throw him into

883
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: that kneed Parsons. Parsons. Yeah, but if you're telling me,

884
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: ranking on my board, Parsons is not as high as

885
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: JC Horne or patrickshr ten. Okay, I mean, and that's

886
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 1: just kind of how I feel. Maybe I'm just different.

887
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: I'm not even going to I'm not grabbing an edge

888
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: rusher at top ten and I'm just not I could

889
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: scheme to him, I can scheme. That's what you would

890
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 1: do with the Russens, though, is he would run downhill

891
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: for you? No? No, no, no, But but but I imagine

892
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: if you had those three guys at that level. You

893
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: have those three guys at that level, who are you

894
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: going at? Who are you going at? You can't scheme linebackers.

895
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: You could scheme defensive ends, you could scheme corners. You

896
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: can't scheme linebackers because they're free floating as long as

897
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: you put guys in front of them that don't allow

898
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: those officers a line. We get up to the second level,

899
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: you can't stop a linebacker. That was the problem last year.

900
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: You think about a guy like Ray Lewis. That was

901
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: a Titan. That's a giant on the field. Paul, he

902
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: had dudes in front Sam Adams, but think about the

903
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: years when he didn't have those guys all up on him.

904
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the difference in what we're talking about

905
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 1: with building a team and getting better at that level.

906
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: But I just look at guys that are playing right now,

907
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: like Zadarius Smith from Green Bay. This is a guy

908
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: that they move all over the field. So if you

909
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: want to scheme up for him in one position, he

910
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: gets a stand up linebacker, he can go down to

911
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: the three to five. He could do it all. And

912
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: you have players like this in the draft. You got

913
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: a playmaker, you gotta have him. You don't pass on

914
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: that and put Patrick Sutan on one side of the field. Yeah. Still,

915
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about some of our opponents this year. I'm

916
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: thinking about some of our opponents this year. There's not

917
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: when Kenna, we play Kansas City, we play n Z.

918
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: I promise you track me great track meet, Sure, how

919
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: do you stop that? You get homes? How Tampa beat them?

920
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: You get you get home? But you face you face

921
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: a team like that right racetrack, how do you beat them,

922
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: you get home. What if they have an amazing running game,

923
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: how do you beat them? Shut them down? Stuff? And

924
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: where it is worst the common denominated with both of

925
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: those sequences up front, Thank you very much. You could

926
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: argue that the reason that Tampa Bay got to Kansas

927
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: City though, in the first place, was because both of

928
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: their tackles were out. And we know but just like that, yes,

929
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: very much like both of those starting tackles that the're

930
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem though that was still going to

931
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: be a problem for them. That was going to be

932
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: an issue. So name one defense in this league where

933
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: you're like, I don't think we could throw the ball

934
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: against them. Boom crickets um. But yeah, but you but

935
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: you gotta have you gotta feel good. You gotta have

936
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: competitive guys. Yeah, you gotta have competitive guys. That's what

937
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: you have to have, because there's not bum that. We

938
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: don't have bums in this league at cornerback position. No,

939
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: but what you're asking your guys to do, just like

940
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: he just like we, just like Quinn didn't Seattle come

941
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: up here. I need you to be competitive. If Heckam

942
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: was lining up against you, I need you to come

943
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: up and put your hands in his dog on chest

944
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: and make a hard him to get off the ball

945
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: right and guess what you do that long enough you

946
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: stopped him for half a second. That's what we need

947
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: because our guys are gonna get home. We're more dominant

948
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: up fry. I just I understand what you're saying, and

949
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: I get the persuasion that is happening here. But that

950
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: isn't that just like the fundamentals of football is. Yeah,

951
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: if you could get to the quarterback, it's not just

952
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: a fundament it's going to be conventional wisdom. It's gonna

953
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: be it's it's proven. The test of time is show.

954
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: That's how you need it. If you're telling me right

955
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: now that if you're gonna spend a pick on an

956
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: edge rusher or a defensive tackle in the first round

957
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: and try and get somebody there, and I'm talking about

958
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons as an edge rusher there, if you're talking

959
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: about that's gonna make your front seven that much better

960
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: over Randy Gregory, DeMarcus Lawrence, Tristan Hill, Neville Gallimore. Those

961
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: are four guys. I feel pretty good about it. Yeah,

962
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: I feel decent about those four guys. And somebody behind them.

963
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: That couldn't think other people don't think that could. I

964
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: don't think that would make that big of a difference though,

965
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: I really don't. Five three, Okay, you can get that

966
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: guy off the street. You're a big guy. You cannot

967
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: get that off the street. Kyle, that Kyle off the field.

968
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: Does he love football? There's a lot of things. Oh yeah,

969
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: he loves football. His job. Have you watched a lot

970
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 1: of his tape and coverage he can't cover, can't can't, cannot,

971
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: cannot cover. Well, no, I don't there's a lot. I

972
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: don't believe. I don't believe that that is something that

973
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: you could just that's a staple for Michael Parsons. It's

974
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: the staple he can run downhill. You're just getting a

975
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,959
Speaker 1: healthy version of tris or excuse me, of Jalen Smith.

976
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: That's what you would draft with Michael Parsons. You're getting

977
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: a health out like that of Jalen Smith. I like that.

978
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: But let's go back to last season. Lamar Jackson on

979
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: the h OV lane drag racing on us had nothing

980
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: to do with our cornerback play and had everything to

981
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: do with what we wop in the run because you

982
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: had Dantari Poe upfront and or I guess Poe was

983
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: gone by that the only reason why. But but I'm

984
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: saying good there still not good. It does come down

985
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: to though, if you don't draft a corner high, then

986
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: are you comfortable with what they got and maybe with

987
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: a veteran addition in May and you can can you

988
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: roll with it? I think you still grab yourself a

989
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: corner or two in the draft. It just doesn't have

990
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: to be a ten. To be ten is you're to

991
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: be ten? You grabbed one or two corners. Say you

992
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: grab one corner and you Queenn picks up the phone

993
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: and says, Sherman, get your butt here. Well, that's what

994
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because otherwise, if you wait, you're drafting Reggie

995
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: Robinson type. And you know, in the fourth round, I thought,

996
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: we love Reggie Robinson. I'm not getting enough Regie. But

997
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: you can't count on in the we're pegging a round hole. Yeah,

998
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 1: but you can't count on a player in the fourth

999
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: round to come in and start for you. So you

1000
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: gotta do something after the draft if you're not a

1001
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Speaker 1: dressing this No, I agree. Let's take our second break

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft. I feel like we have just done everything

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Speaker 1: will at some point, But Michael Parsons is on one side.

1057
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: But what do you think the Cowboys will do? We

1058
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: talked about what we will do. What do you think

1059
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will do? Robb will start with you first dip,

1060
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: first position to double dip on. What do you think

1061
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: will happen? I think, though, I predict they sit and

1062
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: pick it ten and let all the offensive guys go

1063
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: and take the best guy defensively on their board, I'll

1064
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: go Sirtain. I don't know their board, but I think Sirtain. Well,

1065
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: I asked, I asked the first position to double dip.

1066
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to do ten first. Oh, I'm so

1067
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 1: want to do it in a minute. I'm sorry, it's okay,

1068
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm distracted by Sean Lee breaking. Yeah, ok yeah,

1069
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: Shan Lee. That's a that's a good excuse. First position

1070
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: to double, first position to double dip. About linebacker, Mmm,

1071
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: how about get you a linebacker that I mean you

1072
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: talk about consecutive rounds or just just in general. I

1073
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: think maybe you take a linebacker in the first three rounds.

1074
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you come back in the mid rounds for

1075
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 1: somebody that can help you play special teams and maybe

1076
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: compete to take Francis Bernard's job, Blue Gifford's job. I'll

1077
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: say linebacker, Okay, Corner, it's gonna be a corner. First corner, probably, Yeah,

1078
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean it could be exactly what we saw last year.

1079
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: Second and fourth round. It's the sweet spot for both

1080
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: not to take yours because that's where I was going.

1081
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go edge. I always do that. Sorry, Yeah,

1082
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: I'll go edge. Okay, I can see that as well.

1083
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: I mean, this defense needs a ton of health. We've

1084
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: already established that over under one and a half trades

1085
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: involving the Cowboys. So do you think there will be

1086
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: trades involving the Cowboys or not? Heck? Am I what

1087
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: you got? No under under? Okay, so one trade, no trade?

1088
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: Think about it. There's ten picks. They got a lot

1089
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: of picks, so well over then, because they will how

1090
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: many you think they'll make? Maybe two? Two trades? Okay?

1091
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: I gave it one and no draft for the future picks, Okay,

1092
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: i'd say at least, well I'll go with heck too,

1093
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: you know, try to package, bundle, move up. I kind

1094
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: of like to be oddish last year. Yeah, find a

1095
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: guy you like in the mid rounds that maybe dropped

1096
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: a little bit. I would love for that to happen,

1097
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of mid round talent here that

1098
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: you could go and get. But yeah, you would have

1099
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: to take probably trading some of those later ten picks

1100
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: to do so, and I think that would be something.

1101
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say over, I'm gonna be with you guys.

1102
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say there's at least two trades that involved

1103
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: the Cowboys this weekend. What skills positions? Do you think

1104
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 1: Dallas uses a pick on Isaiah? This is great radio. Yeah,

1105
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: I figured that that's a tough one man out of quarterback,

1106
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: running back, wide receiver. Which one do you think I'll

1107
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: even throw tight end in there? Yeah? I don't see

1108
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 1: them getting another receiver. Um, I think they might grab

1109
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: another running back. They might grab another running back, just

1110
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: get some debt purposes and for the future, just for

1111
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 1: the future. Two years left on both Pollard and Zeke's deals. Yeah, okay,

1112
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: you think you know what? And I'm gonna say wide

1113
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: receiver because I'm Jalen Darden. I'm hoping that a guy

1114
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 1: like Jalen Darden, for unt, gets a shot, just saying

1115
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 1: and special teams. I think he'll be able to contribute

1116
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: on special teams. That would be the only place a

1117
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: wide receiver would be able to contribute to. See, there

1118
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,479
Speaker 1: are a couple of those guys late in the draft.

1119
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: I mentioned Jalen Camp, the other day in a mock

1120
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: draft that I did. Georgia Tech wide receiver. I like

1121
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: him a lot as a guy who you could bring

1122
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 1: in as a special team's ace. And I'm looking up. Okay,

1123
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 1: combined record twenty seven reps on bench from a wide receiver.

1124
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: He had thirty reps on a bench. He played wide receiver,

1125
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: all I mean, excuse me, played special teams with Georgia

1126
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: Tech for the last couple of years. Here's a couple

1127
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 1: of looks at the beam with the footage Beam was

1128
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: on that quick. Yeah, he played wide receiver, played out

1129
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: of the slot a lot, and he can sure go

1130
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: and play that big He's a big guy. Bench press

1131
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: or he had thirty reps on bench as a wide receiver.

1132
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: That's a lot. That's unreal. I could maybe see receiver

1133
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: later in the draft. Just I mean, your your fourth

1134
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: and fifth receivers are on one year deals, right, Cedric Wilson,

1135
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: Noah Brown. He brings somebody in and to compete, you know.

1136
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: But to me, you just don't need a lot at

1137
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: your skill position. So it may just come down to, hey,

1138
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: if there's a guy sitting there at any running back,

1139
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: tight end, receiver lea six, you feel like dropped. Take

1140
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 1: him later on you, I say how many? How many

1141
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: reps you get on bench? I think I messed up,

1142
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: but I think I hit twenty three. I think by

1143
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: thirty three I mes stuff. I was really angry about

1144
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 1: that because that was the only test that I could

1145
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: really do because I was hurt. I was hurt. So

1146
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna bench this thing out. They're

1147
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: gonna say my name and freaking freaking g I Joe

1148
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: Brady Quinn got me about one rep. Get out of town. Yeah, man,

1149
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: my grip was wrong. So that we have they have

1150
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: they have a warm up bench. Have a warm up bench, right,

1151
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: and then you hit that and then you go over

1152
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: to the regular bench. Well, the bars were different, right,

1153
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: so the bench press bar it was. It was a

1154
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: clean bar. So I went out and I put my

1155
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: fingers on a little line. You know, you're hyped up,

1156
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: you're not thinking about anything. Put your finger there, Put

1157
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: your finger there. And I came down to my first rep.

1158
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: Of my hands were way out here, and I was like,

1159
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding. And at that point you just

1160
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: gotta go right. And when you fatigue, there is no

1161
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: get me a two or three or four more. It's

1162
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: like you'll pull you it, you know, so I could.

1163
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: I had a couple of reps left at me, but

1164
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: that was all I had. What could you do? Now?

1165
00:55:58,440 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 1: You think that's what I was going to ask? Now

1166
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: I'm old and busted. Now from Conda, you can do thirty.

1167
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: I could probably hit about twenty two. Oh I'm old

1168
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 1: and busted. I can always do one. What I did

1169
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: when I was actually a prospect, the wide grill. I

1170
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: could probably hit one or two. See more, do more more?

1171
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: You know? Uh goodness, that's terrible. We're gonna have to

1172
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: do this. I've got a Cowboys fit membership. Let's get

1173
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: you up. Can I race you? I want to race

1174
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: you out? You want to race me? Please freaking please raise?

1175
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: Do it? Terrible? No? But you? But you said if

1176
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: I said, let's raise Cole, he like God right now?

1177
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: Let's that would be fun? Man. I wish we would

1178
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: have thought of this earlier. Maybe non COVID would be easier.

1179
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: But do like a talking cowboys combine? That would be mean.

1180
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm come on, you can't check it out. I physically

1181
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: can't do a damn thing. So I'm just gonna put

1182
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: a headset on a commentation, Rob, will be that you

1183
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: got comin across all of our podcasts. Take one representative.

1184
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: Now we're getting really good. Let whoever wants to do. Yeah,

1185
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: I'd love to get Mickey Spacknol in a forty yard dash.

1186
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: You're calling it out very church right now, and Jesse Holly, Okay,

1187
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: I call Spacknola. Then I'm calling out a sixty seven

1188
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: year old man I would take on I'm back out

1189
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: of retirement. I thought about the Derek or Shannon as

1190
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: the other host, but both of them are in great shape,

1191
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: so I feel like I would still lose that. Okay,

1192
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: final couple minutes. Who's the pick at tan, Rob, since

1193
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: you already kind of started your your aspiration, what is

1194
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: your pick? Who's the final? Who's your prediction in at ten?

1195
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: I mos certen in my mocks months weeks ago. I'll

1196
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: just stick with that. I think whoever they think is

1197
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: the best defensive guy at ten, I'm okay with. But

1198
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: I think Certain is gonna be a guy that plays

1199
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: twelve years in the league, maybe makes a couple of

1200
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls. I think he's gonna be a really good player.

1201
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: So I think you said it last week The floor.

1202
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: He's got a great floor. I mean, I don't think

1203
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a bust at ten, so I'll go

1204
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, I don't like that they're gonna pick,

1205
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: sir saying in my eyes, but I think they're gonna go.

1206
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: That's gonna they're gonna go. Yeah, come on, give me

1207
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, you know else, here we go.

1208
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: That is quote I'm going, Michael Parsons, I'm staying with

1209
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: my Pig's Cowboys are one. That's who I want. No, no,

1210
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: I want to that's what. That's not what we're doing.

1211
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: What are you doing? What you think the Cowboys will do? Yeah,

1212
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, I can't say that. Guys, this is like

1213
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: heckma picking Dallas to beat Philadelphia two to nothing on

1214
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: the tostitos. You went too. This is just fine? Patrick,

1215
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: You like that what I'm saying. Do you really think

1216
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: that they would pick I really? I really? Do they

1217
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: know what they need? Yeah? You know, I think they

1218
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: can't ignore the conventional wisdoms of football. I think they

1219
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: know where they're weak. I'm just saying everything I know

1220
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: they do. But why not get you a playmaker? Why

1221
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: a guy that can affect Hand is just as much

1222
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: of a playmaker on the outside. It's almost heard a

1223
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: voice crack. There's a whole lot of field third, He's

1224
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: gonna be out there on the third. Um. I would

1225
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: normally say Patrick's rtan, But over the last couple of days,

1226
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: and I'm just like you, Rob, I've mocked Patrick's utan

1227
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: to Dallas a lot, a lot, including on the Blitz

1228
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: like three days ago. But the more I'm hearing about

1229
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: how these teams are lining up in front of you,

1230
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily sure sure Hands even gonna be on

1231
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: the board. I'm scared the Broncos might pick them. Am,

1232
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: I'm scared the Panthers might pick them. There's a chance

1233
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: that the Lions might pick them. Yeah, I'm scared. Patrick

1234
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: Churtan's not even gonna be there. So I'm gonna go

1235
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: with jac Horn, sticking with a cornerback spot a little

1236
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: bit more of a dog, has that that extra mentality,

1237
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: and he's a little grabby at times, but his physicality

1238
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: is there, and I think jac Horne. And also this

1239
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: could be the trade down scenario if they end up

1240
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: trading to fifteen, jac Horn could be the pick there too,

1241
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: So you could couldn't pick here with jac Horne. He

1242
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: could be at ten, he could be at fifteen. Who

1243
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: knows where where he ends up going. But I just

1244
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm growingly getting more concerned that Certan's not going to

1245
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: be available. Stephen Jella said on the Fan on Friday,

1246
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of great debate internally about Horn

1247
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: and Certain. I think obviously they like both, but be

1248
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: interesting to see what happens. And you're right, like, he

1249
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: could go, Horn might go at eight or nine, who's true,

1250
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: who knows, whoever knows what it is. Yeah, And there's

1251
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people that do this for a living

1252
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: that are on top of the draft that really like

1253
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: Horn more than Certain, which is especially in a Quinn scheme.

1254
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: Horn is a Quinn type guy. He would be, Yeah,

1255
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: And I think the coaching staff is kind of rooting

1256
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: for Horn, and the scouting department might be looking more

1257
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,439
Speaker 1: towards Patrick Chutan because it's a high ceiling with Horn

1258
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: versus a high floor with Certain, And that's the pick

1259
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna end up having a make. Whatever happens this weekend,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun. Goodness, gracious gentlemen, it's been so

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Speaker 1: much fun being in has man if it's refreshing, this

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Speaker 1: feels real. It's almost like Opening Day, like it just

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Speaker 1: feels special. Maybe it's because it's Draft week, but I

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Speaker 1: think it's because you guys are in studio and my

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Speaker 1: heart is so full and talking cowboys as it is,

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Speaker 1: and I'm all I've had it up to here with

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, all right, with Chris be even the back

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Speaker 1: for Rob Phillips, isaiahs stand back and hack My Harrison.

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Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman, thanks for joining us. I'm Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: presented by Geico. We'll see you after the draft is

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Speaker 1: over next week. This has been a production of Dallas

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