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OJO, I told you he's 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.200 gonna be starting sooner than you think. 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:48.119 He's gonna learn One thing, OYO, what is that? Get 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:49.160 your ass down? 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:52.000 Them guys you try a a A they comfort them 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:53.680 guys heavy and they fast. 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.680 He gonna he gonna learn fast. He's gonna learn very fast. 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:59.280 But you have to understand you say you're gonna start 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.320 sooner rather sooner than later. I do believe it, and 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:05.640 that that's to say if Russell Wilson doesn't play well, 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.160 But I think Russell Wilson is gonna be in great 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:11.519 command of that offense, especially with the weapons he has 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.440 around him. Listen, you put that ball in UNO's hands, 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.960 everything ain't gonna be fine. Put that ball in one's hands, 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.679 everything ain't gonna be fine. I don't think there's much 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:24.160 pressure on on Russell Wilson. And if they're gonna, if 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.800 they're gonna give him the job. I think Russell Wilson 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:29.480 makes it through this season and Jackson Dark starts next year. 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:30.840 I don't believe that. 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:31.680 You don't think so. 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:35.840 No, not the way this rookie played this preseason. 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.120 And oh tall, you see the way he move in 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:39.800 the pocket. You see the throw that he's making. 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.120 He can move now, he's nice. 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.120 Yeah, and then what thing you are not gonna do? 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.560 We're gonna give credit words due. Now, if you play bad, 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:49.960 we're gonna say you play bad. But hey, but if 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.480 you play good, we're gonna say, Man, get your popcorn 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.280 and watch this kid. I mean his command of the offense, 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.880 he's I mean his ability to push the ball down 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.640 the field, his ability he's from. And then all of 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:02.800 a sudden, he's like, oh, I forgot about my black back. 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:07.080 Waam throws it to the back. I said, you should 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:10.320 you show up on a rookie. Rookies don't normally play 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.080 like that. He plays with a lot of poinds. He 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.400 played a big time army. He'll throw push the ball. 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.719 I like guys to push the ball down the field. 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.680 All that short fishing. You ain't gonna catch no big 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:24.200 fish around the edge, the big fish out d Yeah. 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:24.640 Yeah. 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:26.560 Most of the time, especially for the rookies, you know, 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.799 they get themselves in rhythm, get the rhythm. They'll start 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:33.120 short just to just to get that confidence going, as 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:36.240 opposed to taking taking a deep shot. I remember, I 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:38.400 think was it maybe last week? It might have been 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.799 last week. It was third, it was third and shorter. 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.000 Maybe maybe they went for it on fourth down, and 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.919 he threw the goddamn deep ball. Yeah, throwing it short 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:49.080 for a touchdown. Yeah. 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:51.560 And who guess what, o Joe, who else knows that 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.600 you're a rookie, that you're probably not gonna push it 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.160 that ball down field early and you're gonna stay around 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:00.680 the shore. Decoordinators Oh yeah, yeah yeah. And they telling 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:01.679 their corner, they're telling. 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:05.360 The crowded sit sit yep, because. 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:08.279 They thinking like you think it. Yeah. 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:10.599 Coach, first of all, coach ain't gonna call anything that 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:11.920 he don't want to get too exotic. 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:13.240 He want to let him warm up. 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.120 We're gonna let him throw a smoke, let him throw 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:23.120 an out, let him throw a slant sit. Heyitch, they 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.240 gonna go get that ball every time. Uh but no, 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:29.359 I love, I love what I love what I've seen. 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.320 I don't want to get. But I think Brian dayball 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.920 and that staff is very pleased with the production that 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:39.359 Jackson dark displayed in the preseason. How can you not 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:44.280 four total touchdowns, no picks, basically clean? Look like you said, 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.040 O Joe, I can teach you that son, get your 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:49.680 ass down, get down or get out of bounds. You 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.120 got two choices. You can get down or you can 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:56.160 get your ass out of bounds. These are we're gonna come, 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:57.520 put your ass on the car and you're gonna go 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.320 in the tent. Because you see what happened with what 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.880 happened on yr. Yeah, they came and got it and 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:03.440 they put it. They took his ass to the ten. 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:04.240 Yeah. 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:10.600 But listen, based on his play this preseason Bengals, Bengals, 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:16.360 I'm thinking about its giants, fans, giants organization. His teammates, 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:20.719 they have to be very pleased. Yeah, very what they 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.760 saw from Jackson dark. But also I want to be 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.920 very cautious. Now, very cautious. Now this is you got 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.719 to understand who he was going against. Now when the 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:31.920 regular season stars is a different ball game, right there. 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:35.040 Oh for sure, it's not gonna be sweet, not gonna 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.960 be uh, it's. 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:42.680 Ain't a vanilla. They're gonna get you a lot. Hey, Hey, 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:44.359 they get you a lot of swirls. Hey, you go 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.720 to basket Robbins. It ain't flavored. There's coverages you're gonna get. 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:49.839 It ain't thirty one flavor. There's thirty one coverages. 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:51.360 It's a different ball game. 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:52.120 It is. 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:52.520 It is. 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:57.640 Absolutely. The intensity picks up, the urgency picks up. The 0:06:57.760 --> 0:06:59.560 speak coaches all that, all that. 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:02.839 Hey, the coaches they're explaining things to you in a 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:04.039 nice calm tone. 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:05.240 That it shot the window. 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:06.480 Yeah m hm. 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.120 Hey, And that's what one of the coaches told me 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:14.160 my rookie year. You know, we still cut it, just 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.360 coss the season. That don't mean you can't get cut 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:20.000 right sometimes, you know, sometimes guys relax on yoe. 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.360 Oh man, maybe it's out a trading camp. 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.240 They'll cut week one all the way all the way 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:29.960 through the week seventeen eighteen even Hey, I've seen guys 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:31.200 get cut in the postseason. 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.760 Yeah, it could be your day, damn in the postseason. 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:41.720 Well look here, man, we are a well look here, 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:42.520 they don't play. 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:46.120 Oh, Joe, I look, you know what it might have 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:48.280 been the like it might not have been the postseason, 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:50.680 you know, practice squad guy or something like that. But 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.040 I see, But but I'm talking about got bet guys 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:55.160 late in the season. 0:07:58.000 --> 0:07:59.800 Oh man, that Mike shannandnt play. 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:00.840 That's tough. 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:02.400 It wasn't no loafing. 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:07.680 It wasn't no walking when he say, I don't know 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:08.840 how y'all did it, O Yoe. 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:12.520 But when we change drills, oh you had to get 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:13.000 a move on. 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:15.920 Got a little pepper. Gotta have a little peppery your step. 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.720 Nobody walks but the mail man. That's why he doesn't 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.040 make what you make. You run to where you gotta go. 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.240 I like that, Okay, I like that. 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:34.520 All right, Okay, some people don't understand that, and that's 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.560 no disrespect to the mail man. Hey, you guys do 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:41.480 an unbelievable job. We appreciate your service, although you don't. 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.160 Kind of like with Amazon and all these other carriers, 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:50.360 they dab put y'all out of business. But this kid 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:52.880 Jackson dark O Joe, Oh yeah, I like what I'm 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:55.160 saying now, I'm like you, I want to see him 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:56.400 against some real competition. 0:08:58.040 --> 0:08:58.520 Mm hmm. 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:03.600 Hey, when you go, you gotta you gotta make those alignments, 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:11.520 those adjustments. Yes, defenses, I mean linemen of stunning defensive 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:13.120 disguising what they. 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:13.679 Really want to do. 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:17.199 And yeah, you might think it's you might think it's 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:18.800 covered one, and you might think it's cover three, and 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:19.040 all of. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:22.480 A sudden you go to go to man, it's. 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.240 Go to quarter, they go to seven, they go to six, 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:27.600 they go to six, kick they have have Have you 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:28.679 go to cover five? 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:30.600 Have your brain out there, fried. 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:38.839 Yeah, clouding it. M Yeah, just be out there banjoin 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:44.600 but Joe, because you know I'll be I'll be trying 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.000 to let ay because that was the way they be 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:48.800 out there doing this right here. That means they banjo, 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.679 and that means they're gonna they're gonna double somebody. I'm like, 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:53.360 it never really dawned on. 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.080 Me that what the sick you know, I'm just I'm 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:55.800 just out there. 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.480 Like what they doing right right. 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:02.360 Or you know you see them doing locking it? Hey, 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:04.360 so I just got a kick. I guess got a 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:06.880 kick out of that where people say, hey. 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:11.360 Man, it don't matter, it don't matter if you know 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:11.800 what to do. 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:15.400 The hell you say you let me know, y'all gonna 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:17.600 be a couple of hours that though, y'all gonna be 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.840 a quarters of single high safety, a six kick. 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:27.320 The hell you say. 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:26.320 Bad? 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:26.800 Please? 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:31.439 But Tommy DeVito, Oh Joe, Tommy DeVito. Yeah, seventeen to 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:35.360 twenty buck ninety three three tugs. A Jackson Dark came 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:39.080 in six to twelve eighty one yards a tub. Jameis 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:42.520 Winston came in for eight mop up forty seven and 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:43.000 a toub. 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:45.520 Listen, we talked this might be the second team we 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:47.560 talked about a team carrying four quarterbacks. 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:49.920 This might be another team that might carry four. 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.720 I don't think so, old Joe ya, because you know why, 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:58.640 because who's James. Jameis is making four million, Russ is 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.000 making good money. Russ he was making how much money? 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:07.000 Ash ten fifteen? See, it's not like Cleveland, because what 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:09.600 you call going to make him five million? Kenny Pickett's 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.439 was making what he's making. And then you got two rookies. 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.800 Okay, so so what you're saying, well, what you're saying, 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:15.719 who's the odd man out? 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:15.960 Then? 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.880 Oh, so he got one year ten to five, which 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:24.880 is probably as much as a flack coin picket making together. 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:29.360 And then you throw Jamis's four million a year because 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.560 I think he did two years nine million, so four 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:33.040 and a half. 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:36.800 So you look at fifteen million between two quarterbacks. So 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.600 I mean, so who's don't. 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.600 Think you think they keep you think they keep telling me, well, 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:43.600 obviously you know they're not getting rich Jackson dark You 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.160 think they keep Tommy de Vido or they released him 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.080 and trying to sign them back to the practice squad. 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.480 Probably signing back to the practice squad. But I see 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:50.960 them doing that. 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.000 I see them doing the same thing that that the 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:57.800 Browns are probably gonna do for some reason, For some reason, 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.160 I just do. And then we talked about James Is 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:04.880 Winston heard you heard personnel or was that the owner 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.800 that came out and said absolutely not, He's not going nowhere. 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:09.720 I don't want to say that. 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:11.040 I'm about James Winson. 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.120 You're talking about married John Marra. 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:17.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, great locker, great locker room presence, 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:19.160 great team guy. 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:22.920 I knew, I knew. I knew James wasn't going nowhere, 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:26.760 absolutely not. 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:32.600 But forty two ten. You don't want to go out 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:34.360 on a note like that. But you know, o Joe, 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.720 you and I we talked about this early in this week. Unfortunately, 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.960 a lot of kids dreams, I say kids, the kids, 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.120 they old enough to be my kids, old enough to 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.000 be the young Well let me take that back, they're 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:50.960 young enough to be our kids. I'm pretty sure I'm 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:54.000 older than most of their moms and dads. But with 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:57.199 that being said, a lot of these young men's dreams 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:01.680 come to an end tonight. Some will get an opportunity 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.240 to go be on a practice squad somewhere else. Some 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.720 might get an opportunity to go to Canada play in 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:10.320 the UFL. But for a lot of them, Mocho, the 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:14.520 realization that this is over something I've been doing since 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:18.000 I was seven eight years old. Did it at the 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.800 pe wee level, did at the JV level, high school level, 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:21.520 college level. 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:25.200 My dreams and aspirations did not come to fruition. 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:30.800 Yeah, that's tough because this is probably the first time, 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:34.840 Mojo that someone has told these young men you're not 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:39.880 good enough. Think about it. They've always been the best. Yeah, 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:42.319 they were their best on their Pop Warner. There was 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.280 based on their flag football team, their JV football team, 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:49.800 their high school basketball, a football team, the college, and 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:58.160 then it's a numbers game. You're not good enough. That's 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:02.520 the realization of OJO. That's the realization. I mean, I'm 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:04.720 not trying to be chat I'm not trying to be dramatic, 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:06.679 because I know what it's like to be on pins 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:10.520 and needles that last game, that last preseason game, and 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:12.240 you your name is on the. 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:16.360 Board to be released. My name was on the board 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:17.320 to be released. 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:18.880 Hold on, let me let me tell you. 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.720 Let me tell you what about the last preseason game. 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.840 I'm talking about what we were playing the last preseason game. 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:28.000 I remember. I would I would be walking. 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.640 In and the person who did the cutting and letting 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:35.040 players know as they come in the building was Lippy Lippincott. 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:36.720 I'm not I'm not, I haven't. I don't know if 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.000 he's still with the Bangles or not. And I you know, 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.560 I would always come in early after the preseason game 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.800 to come in, hit the cold tub, hit the hot tub, 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:48.000 get my body back, get my body back. We rejuvenated 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:50.840 and fresh, and I would see lippy standing there right 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:56.000 at the door and just thinking to myself, man, so 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.960 he's collecting the playbook, you know, to go up and 0:14:58.960 --> 0:14:59.360 see the. 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:03.160 Coach yep, before the meetings even start. I'm like, man, 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:04.240 that's tough, man. 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:08.160 And then hard knocks, hard knocks, hard knocks made it 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:10.000 a reality and allowing people. 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:13.600 To see, Yeah, people actually you know, get cut and 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.880 how and how that side of it works, and it is. 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.640 It's heartbreaking, it said as it is. Yeah, it's the 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:22.600 reality of the game. 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:25.320 That's reality. You got to show you both sides. 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:28.640 You just see the plug GUIDs making plays, scoring touchdowns, 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.640 the camaraderie on the field and the meeting rooms and 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:35.240 things like that. But there's another side of this that somebody, 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:42.800 some young man men, their dreams. This dream is not 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:48.080 going to come true, and you have to reshift, refocus 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:52.080 a lot of it. You know, you're disciplined because you 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:54.640 have to be somewhat disciplined to play football, because you 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.080 got you know, you got study, haul, you got when 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.640 you work out, you got practice, when you got to 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:01.320 be there for the plane ride, when you got to 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.720 be there for the bus ride. How you have to dress. 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.200 So there's a certain level of structure, and a lot 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:09.120 of these young men lives, so you know, some you 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:16.480 know a structure is is not their strong suit because 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:19.960 they do everything they can, oh you the buck against it. 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:23.960 But most most of these men, they do have structure 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.640 because you've kind of been in the structured environment for 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.360 the better part of your life and so it should 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:31.120 be you know, you a if you go back and 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:35.280 go into the workforce, the actual nine to five, you know, 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:36.840 you got to be to work at a certain time. 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.320 You know the task that you're asked to do, you 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.680 just go get it done. But that's the that's the 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:46.280 unfortunate side of playing a professional sport that everybody. 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:48.360 Dreams of playing. 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:51.840 And that's the thing, you know, for every o Cho 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.520 Sinko and a Shannon Sharp or a Stirling Sharp or 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:58.160 somebody that that came up the less than favorable or 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.440 improverished conditions, there are a lot of people that came 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.320 from those same conditions that didn't get an opportunity to 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.080 play in the NFL. Oh Joe that got the opportunity 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:08.600 that you and I got, and that was as far as 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:09.960 they got was training camp. 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:14.399 That's tough, man, it is it is. 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.080 I think it's a good thing. I think it's also 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:17.720 a good thing for fans to be able to see 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:23.320 the entire process, not just to finished product on Sundays, 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:28.439 actually see what players have to go through, the sweat, 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:32.560 the tears, the being on pins and needles, the pressure 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:36.000 of having to go out there in the preseason knowing that, Okay, 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:38.360 I have two or three games where I have to 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.480 make a name for myself, if not here, maybe somewhere else. 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:44.520 If I don't make it here, No, that that's tough. 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:48.159 It is because then also you got to do everything 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:49.720 you want to do. You want to be perfect, and 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:51.960 most of the time when you press and you try 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:53.080 to be perfect. 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:55.600 What's the one thing you always do? You mess up? 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.320 Mess up, you mess up. You can never you can 0:17:58.400 --> 0:17:59.320 never play freely. 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:01.680 I mean, you had your best when you're playing free 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:03.320 without nothing to worry about. 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:05.560 Now you got to go try to learn a new offense, 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:11.320 a new defense. But here's the thing, Oh Joe, there's 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.520 two thousand and three thousand applicants for that four or 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:18.720 five jobs. How many wide receivers are gonna get released, 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.000 how many tight ends, how many offensive linemen, how many 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:26.000 running backs, how many quarterbacks? dB D lineman, linebackers, corners, safeties. 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:32.280 So you got two thousand applicants, probably got ten fifteen positions. 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:33.399 Damn. 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:39.520 And that that goes to show how great the one 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:40.399 percent is. 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:45.119 Yeah, that how great the one percent is. 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:51.200 Yes, you think about how many kids graduate each year 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:54.440 from high school. Now, think about how many of those 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:57.960 go to college to play aff sport. Now just think 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.800 in forty five years, how many them get an opportunity 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:02.679 to go play at the next level and said sport. 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:05.720 Now you understand what you're dealing. 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:07.040 With very small. 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:09.320 Only there's only a fifty three man roster. 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.520 Now you think about a fifty three man roster of 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:16.240 a million of a million kids that graduated. So let's 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:18.120 just say, for the sake of argument, let's just say 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:19.200 a half a million of them. 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:30.119 Got a men right out of five hundred thousand. 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:37.800 When you realize how special you got to be to 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:42.639 be a professional athlete, forget, obviously there's some you know, 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:46.159 obviously basketball is even harder because guess what, O, Joe, 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.800 you got fewer slots. Baseball is even harder because you 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.280 got few there's only fifteen spots on a basketball team. 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:54.919 Ohoe, you only got fifteen. You only got fifteen players. 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:56.520 That's crazy. 0:19:57.560 --> 0:19:59.520 Think about it. You're starting offense, your starting defense. You 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:04.520 got twenty that's more than an entire basketball team. Baseball 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:09.800 you got twenty nine. That's twenty four. That's twenty four 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:14.600