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Jackson dark Shine in his 49 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: rookie preseason. His numbers across all three weeks he was 50 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: thirty two or forty seven, three hundred and seventy two yards, 51 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 1: four total touchdowns, zero interceptions. OJO, I told you he's 52 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: gonna be starting sooner than you think. 53 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,119 Speaker 2: He's gonna learn One thing, OYO, what is that? Get 54 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: your ass down? 55 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: Them guys you try a a A they comfort them 56 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: guys heavy and they fast. 57 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 3: He gonna he gonna learn fast. He's gonna learn very fast. 58 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: But you have to understand you say you're gonna start 59 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 4: sooner rather sooner than later. I do believe it, and 60 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 4: that that's to say if Russell Wilson doesn't play well, 61 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 4: But I think Russell Wilson is gonna be in great 62 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 4: command of that offense, especially with the weapons he has 63 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 4: around him. Listen, you put that ball in UNO's hands, 64 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 4: everything ain't gonna be fine. Put that ball in one's hands, 65 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 4: everything ain't gonna be fine. I don't think there's much 66 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 4: pressure on on Russell Wilson. And if they're gonna, if 67 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 4: they're gonna give him the job. I think Russell Wilson 68 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 4: makes it through this season and Jackson Dark starts next year. 69 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: I don't believe that. 70 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: You don't think so. 71 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: No, not the way this rookie played this preseason. 72 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: And oh tall, you see the way he move in 73 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: the pocket. You see the throw that he's making. 74 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 3: He can move now, he's nice. 75 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then what thing you are not gonna do? 76 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna give credit words due. Now, if you play bad, 77 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna say you play bad. But hey, but if 78 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: you play good, we're gonna say, Man, get your popcorn 79 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: and watch this kid. I mean his command of the offense, 80 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: he's I mean his ability to push the ball down 81 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: the field, his ability he's from. And then all of 82 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: a sudden, he's like, oh, I forgot about my black back. 83 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: Waam throws it to the back. I said, you should 84 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: you show up on a rookie. Rookies don't normally play 85 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: like that. He plays with a lot of poinds. He 86 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: played a big time army. He'll throw push the ball. 87 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: I like guys to push the ball down the field. 88 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: All that short fishing. You ain't gonna catch no big 89 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: fish around the edge, the big fish out d Yeah. 90 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 91 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 4: Most of the time, especially for the rookies, you know, 92 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 4: they get themselves in rhythm, get the rhythm. They'll start 93 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 4: short just to just to get that confidence going, as 94 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 4: opposed to taking taking a deep shot. I remember, I 95 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 4: think was it maybe last week? It might have been 96 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 4: last week. It was third, it was third and shorter. 97 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe they went for it on fourth down, and 98 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 4: he threw the goddamn deep ball. Yeah, throwing it short 99 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 4: for a touchdown. Yeah. 100 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: And who guess what, o Joe, who else knows that 101 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: you're a rookie, that you're probably not gonna push it 102 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: that ball down field early and you're gonna stay around 103 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: the shore. Decoordinators Oh yeah, yeah yeah. And they telling 104 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:01,679 Speaker 1: their corner, they're telling. 105 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: The crowded sit sit yep, because. 106 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 2: They thinking like you think it. Yeah. 107 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: Coach, first of all, coach ain't gonna call anything that 108 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: he don't want to get too exotic. 109 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: He want to let him warm up. 110 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna let him throw a smoke, let him throw 111 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: an out, let him throw a slant sit. Heyitch, they 112 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: gonna go get that ball every time. Uh but no, 113 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: I love, I love what I love what I've seen. 114 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to get. But I think Brian dayball 115 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: and that staff is very pleased with the production that 116 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: Jackson dark displayed in the preseason. How can you not 117 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: four total touchdowns, no picks, basically clean? Look like you said, 118 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: O Joe, I can teach you that son, get your 119 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: ass down, get down or get out of bounds. You 120 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: got two choices. You can get down or you can 121 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: get your ass out of bounds. These are we're gonna come, 122 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: put your ass on the car and you're gonna go 123 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: in the tent. Because you see what happened with what 124 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: happened on yr. Yeah, they came and got it and 125 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: they put it. They took his ass to the ten. 126 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 127 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 4: But listen, based on his play this preseason Bengals, Bengals, 128 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 4: I'm thinking about its giants, fans, giants organization. His teammates, 129 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 4: they have to be very pleased. Yeah, very what they 130 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 4: saw from Jackson dark. But also I want to be 131 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 4: very cautious. Now, very cautious. Now this is you got 132 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 4: to understand who he was going against. Now when the 133 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 4: regular season stars is a different ball game, right there. 134 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 3: Oh for sure, it's not gonna be sweet, not gonna 135 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: be uh, it's. 136 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: Ain't a vanilla. They're gonna get you a lot. Hey, Hey, 137 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: they get you a lot of swirls. Hey, you go 138 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: to basket Robbins. It ain't flavored. There's coverages you're gonna get. 139 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: It ain't thirty one flavor. There's thirty one coverages. 140 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 3: It's a different ball game. 141 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: It is. 142 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: It is. 143 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely. The intensity picks up, the urgency picks up. The 144 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: speak coaches all that, all that. 145 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: Hey, the coaches they're explaining things to you in a 146 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: nice calm tone. 147 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: That it shot the window. 148 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 3: Yeah m hm. 149 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: Hey, And that's what one of the coaches told me 150 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: my rookie year. You know, we still cut it, just 151 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: coss the season. That don't mean you can't get cut 152 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: right sometimes, you know, sometimes guys relax on yoe. 153 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: Oh man, maybe it's out a trading camp. 154 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: They'll cut week one all the way all the way 155 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: through the week seventeen eighteen even Hey, I've seen guys 156 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: get cut in the postseason. 157 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be your day, damn in the postseason. 158 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: Well look here, man, we are a well look here, 159 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: they don't play. 160 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, I look, you know what it might have 161 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: been the like it might not have been the postseason, 162 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: you know, practice squad guy or something like that. But 163 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: I see, But but I'm talking about got bet guys 164 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: late in the season. 165 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: Oh man, that Mike shannandnt play. 166 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: That's tough. 167 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: It wasn't no loafing. 168 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't no walking when he say, I don't know 169 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: how y'all did it, O Yoe. 170 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: But when we change drills, oh you had to get 171 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: a move on. 172 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: Got a little pepper. Gotta have a little peppery your step. 173 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: Nobody walks but the mail man. That's why he doesn't 174 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: make what you make. You run to where you gotta go. 175 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: I like that, Okay, I like that. 176 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: All right, Okay, some people don't understand that, and that's 177 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: no disrespect to the mail man. Hey, you guys do 178 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: an unbelievable job. We appreciate your service, although you don't. 179 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: Kind of like with Amazon and all these other carriers, 180 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: they dab put y'all out of business. But this kid 181 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: Jackson dark O Joe, Oh yeah, I like what I'm 182 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: saying now, I'm like you, I want to see him 183 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: against some real competition. 184 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 185 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 4: Hey, when you go, you gotta you gotta make those alignments, 186 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 4: those adjustments. Yes, defenses, I mean linemen of stunning defensive 187 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 4: disguising what they. 188 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 3: Really want to do. 189 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 4: And yeah, you might think it's you might think it's 190 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 4: covered one, and you might think it's cover three, and 191 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 4: all of. 192 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: A sudden you go to go to man, it's. 193 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: Go to quarter, they go to seven, they go to six, 194 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: they go to six, kick they have have Have you 195 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: go to cover five? 196 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: Have your brain out there, fried. 197 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, clouding it. M Yeah, just be out there banjoin 198 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: but Joe, because you know I'll be I'll be trying 199 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: to let ay because that was the way they be 200 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: out there doing this right here. That means they banjo, 201 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: and that means they're gonna they're gonna double somebody. I'm like, 202 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: it never really dawned on. 203 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: Me that what the sick you know, I'm just I'm 204 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: just out there. 205 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 3: Like what they doing right right. 206 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: Or you know you see them doing locking it? Hey, 207 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: so I just got a kick. I guess got a 208 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: kick out of that where people say, hey. 209 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: Man, it don't matter, it don't matter if you know 210 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: what to do. 211 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: The hell you say you let me know, y'all gonna 212 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: be a couple of hours that though, y'all gonna be 213 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: a quarters of single high safety, a six kick. 214 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 2: The hell you say. 215 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 3: Bad? 216 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: Please? 217 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: But Tommy DeVito, Oh Joe, Tommy DeVito. Yeah, seventeen to 218 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: twenty buck ninety three three tugs. A Jackson Dark came 219 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: in six to twelve eighty one yards a tub. Jameis 220 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: Winston came in for eight mop up forty seven and 221 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: a toub. 222 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 4: Listen, we talked this might be the second team we 223 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 4: talked about a team carrying four quarterbacks. 224 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: This might be another team that might carry four. 225 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: I don't think so, old Joe ya, because you know why, 226 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: because who's James. Jameis is making four million, Russ is 227 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: making good money. Russ he was making how much money? 228 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: Ash ten fifteen? See, it's not like Cleveland, because what 229 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: you call going to make him five million? Kenny Pickett's 230 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: was making what he's making. And then you got two rookies. 231 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 4: Okay, so so what you're saying, well, what you're saying, 232 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 4: who's the odd man out? 233 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 2: Then? 234 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: Oh, so he got one year ten to five, which 235 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: is probably as much as a flack coin picket making together. 236 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: And then you throw Jamis's four million a year because 237 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: I think he did two years nine million, so four 238 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: and a half. 239 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: So you look at fifteen million between two quarterbacks. So 240 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: I mean, so who's don't. 241 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: Think you think they keep you think they keep telling me, well, 242 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: obviously you know they're not getting rich Jackson dark You 243 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: think they keep Tommy de Vido or they released him 244 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: and trying to sign them back to the practice squad. 245 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 3: Probably signing back to the practice squad. But I see 246 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 3: them doing that. 247 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 4: I see them doing the same thing that that the 248 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 4: Browns are probably gonna do for some reason, For some reason, 249 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 4: I just do. And then we talked about James Is 250 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 4: Winston heard you heard personnel or was that the owner 251 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 4: that came out and said absolutely not, He's not going nowhere. 252 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: I don't want to say that. 253 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: I'm about James Winson. 254 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: You're talking about married John Marra. 255 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, great locker, great locker room presence, 256 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 4: great team guy. 257 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: I knew, I knew. I knew James wasn't going nowhere, 258 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: absolutely not. 259 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: But forty two ten. You don't want to go out 260 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: on a note like that. But you know, o Joe, 261 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: you and I we talked about this early in this week. Unfortunately, 262 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: a lot of kids dreams, I say kids, the kids, 263 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: they old enough to be my kids, old enough to 264 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: be the young Well let me take that back, they're 265 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: young enough to be our kids. I'm pretty sure I'm 266 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: older than most of their moms and dads. But with 267 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: that being said, a lot of these young men's dreams 268 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: come to an end tonight. Some will get an opportunity 269 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: to go be on a practice squad somewhere else. Some 270 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: might get an opportunity to go to Canada play in 271 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: the UFL. But for a lot of them, Mocho, the 272 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: realization that this is over something I've been doing since 273 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: I was seven eight years old. Did it at the 274 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: pe wee level, did at the JV level, high school level, 275 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: college level. 276 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 2: My dreams and aspirations did not come to fruition. 277 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's tough because this is probably the first time, 278 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: Mojo that someone has told these young men you're not 279 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: good enough. Think about it. They've always been the best. Yeah, 280 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: they were their best on their Pop Warner. There was 281 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: based on their flag football team, their JV football team, 282 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: their high school basketball, a football team, the college, and 283 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: then it's a numbers game. You're not good enough. That's 284 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: the realization of OJO. That's the realization. I mean, I'm 285 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: not trying to be chat I'm not trying to be dramatic, 286 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: because I know what it's like to be on pins 287 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: and needles that last game, that last preseason game, and 288 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: you your name is on the. 289 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: Board to be released. My name was on the board 290 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: to be released. 291 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 3: Hold on, let me let me tell you. 292 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 4: Let me tell you what about the last preseason game. 293 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 4: I'm talking about what we were playing the last preseason game. 294 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 3: I remember. I would I would be walking. 295 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 4: In and the person who did the cutting and letting 296 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 4: players know as they come in the building was Lippy Lippincott. 297 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not, I haven't. I don't know if 298 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 4: he's still with the Bangles or not. And I you know, 299 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 4: I would always come in early after the preseason game 300 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 4: to come in, hit the cold tub, hit the hot tub, 301 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 4: get my body back, get my body back. We rejuvenated 302 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 4: and fresh, and I would see lippy standing there right 303 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 4: at the door and just thinking to myself, man, so 304 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 4: he's collecting the playbook, you know, to go up and 305 00:14:58,960 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 4: see the. 306 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: Coach yep, before the meetings even start. I'm like, man, 307 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: that's tough, man. 308 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 4: And then hard knocks, hard knocks, hard knocks made it 309 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 4: a reality and allowing people. 310 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 3: To see, Yeah, people actually you know, get cut and 311 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 3: how and how that side of it works, and it is. 312 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 4: It's heartbreaking, it said as it is. Yeah, it's the 313 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 4: reality of the game. 314 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: That's reality. You got to show you both sides. 315 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: You just see the plug GUIDs making plays, scoring touchdowns, 316 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: the camaraderie on the field and the meeting rooms and 317 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: things like that. But there's another side of this that somebody, 318 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: some young man men, their dreams. This dream is not 319 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: going to come true, and you have to reshift, refocus 320 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: a lot of it. You know, you're disciplined because you 321 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: have to be somewhat disciplined to play football, because you 322 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: got you know, you got study, haul, you got when 323 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: you work out, you got practice, when you got to 324 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: be there for the plane ride, when you got to 325 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: be there for the bus ride. How you have to dress. 326 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: So there's a certain level of structure, and a lot 327 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: of these young men lives, so you know, some you 328 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: know a structure is is not their strong suit because 329 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: they do everything they can, oh you the buck against it. 330 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: But most most of these men, they do have structure 331 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: because you've kind of been in the structured environment for 332 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: the better part of your life and so it should 333 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: be you know, you a if you go back and 334 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: go into the workforce, the actual nine to five, you know, 335 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: you got to be to work at a certain time. 336 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: You know the task that you're asked to do, you 337 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: just go get it done. But that's the that's the 338 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: unfortunate side of playing a professional sport that everybody. 339 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: Dreams of playing. 340 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: And that's the thing, you know, for every o Cho 341 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: Sinko and a Shannon Sharp or a Stirling Sharp or 342 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: somebody that that came up the less than favorable or 343 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: improverished conditions, there are a lot of people that came 344 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: from those same conditions that didn't get an opportunity to 345 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: play in the NFL. Oh Joe that got the opportunity 346 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: that you and I got, and that was as far as 347 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: they got was training camp. 348 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: That's tough, man, it is it is. 349 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 4: I think it's a good thing. I think it's also 350 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 4: a good thing for fans to be able to see 351 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 4: the entire process, not just to finished product on Sundays, 352 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 4: actually see what players have to go through, the sweat, 353 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 4: the tears, the being on pins and needles, the pressure 354 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 4: of having to go out there in the preseason knowing that, Okay, 355 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 4: I have two or three games where I have to 356 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 4: make a name for myself, if not here, maybe somewhere else. 357 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 4: If I don't make it here, No, that that's tough. 358 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 4: It is because then also you got to do everything 359 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 4: you want to do. You want to be perfect, and 360 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 4: most of the time when you press and you try 361 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 4: to be perfect. 362 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 3: What's the one thing you always do? You mess up? 363 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: Mess up, you mess up. You can never you can 364 00:17:58,400 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 3: never play freely. 365 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 4: I mean, you had your best when you're playing free 366 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 4: without nothing to worry about. 367 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: Now you got to go try to learn a new offense, 368 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: a new defense. But here's the thing, Oh Joe, there's 369 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: two thousand and three thousand applicants for that four or 370 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: five jobs. How many wide receivers are gonna get released, 371 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: how many tight ends, how many offensive linemen, how many 372 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: running backs, how many quarterbacks? dB D lineman, linebackers, corners, safeties. 373 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: So you got two thousand applicants, probably got ten fifteen positions. 374 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 2: Damn. 375 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 3: And that that goes to show how great the one 376 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 3: percent is. 377 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, that how great the one percent is. 378 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: Yes, you think about how many kids graduate each year 379 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: from high school. Now, think about how many of those 380 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: go to college to play aff sport. Now just think 381 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: in forty five years, how many them get an opportunity 382 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: to go play at the next level and said sport. 383 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: Now you understand what you're dealing. 384 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: With very small. 385 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 2: Only there's only a fifty three man roster. 386 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: Now you think about a fifty three man roster of 387 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: a million of a million kids that graduated. So let's 388 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: just say, for the sake of argument, let's just say 389 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: a half a million of them. 390 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 2: Got a men right out of five hundred thousand. 391 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: When you realize how special you got to be to 392 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: be a professional athlete, forget, obviously there's some you know, 393 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: obviously basketball is even harder because guess what, O, Joe, 394 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: you got fewer slots. Baseball is even harder because you 395 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: got few there's only fifteen spots on a basketball team. 396 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 2: Ohoe, you only got fifteen. You only got fifteen players. 397 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 5: That's crazy. 398 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: Think about it. You're starting offense, your starting defense. You 399 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: got twenty that's more than an entire basketball team. Baseball 400 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: you got twenty nine. That's twenty four. That's twenty four 401 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: less than a football team. So you see, as the 402 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: percentage as the players go down, Yeah, so does the 403 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: percentages of you making it. 404 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 2: I'm just telling what it is, o't yo. 405 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I mean listen, it's the hardest truth. Yes, 406 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 3: it's the hardest truth. 407 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: Steelers beat the Panthers defensive lives off of the potentially 408 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: significant loss to Rickey first round of Dereck Harmon was 409 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: carted off the field with the knee injury and quickly 410 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: ruled out. Mike Tomin told reporters that is a spring 411 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: knee and the injury is still being evaluated. I think, 412 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: O yo, that's kind of why. You know, you don't 413 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: see a lot of the key guys play guys. Maybe 414 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 1: maybe they just didn't voice it, but the guys did. 415 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: I don't remember the coach of being concerned like that 416 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: because they threw our ass out there. 417 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 3: Oh yoya. They weren't concerned. They weren't concerned, And I mean, listen, 418 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 3: it's football at the end of the day. It's football 419 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 3: no matter what. 420 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 4: And if someone, to me, honestly, the way I think 421 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 4: that someone is gonna get hurt, they're gonna get hurt. 422 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: It's inevitable. 423 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 2: You can't get hurt going full speed. 424 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 3: It's it's a contact sport. 425 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 4: You can you can, you can protect a player all 426 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 4: you want, but when it's time to play football, if 427 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 4: they're going to get hurt, they're going to get hurt. 428 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 3: You can't protect or stop that. You can, Okay, I'm 429 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 3: gona hold you out in preseason. 430 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 4: You can go out there in the regular season and 431 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 4: still get hurt the same way we might would just 432 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 4: get out there and just play football. 433 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: No, oh Joe, it used to be football is a 434 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: collision sport. Yeah, because you got big men running in 435 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: the bigger men at a high rate of speed. 436 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 3: That was me. 437 00:21:58,680 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 2: That was me. 438 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: And Marlin Olson. I think once said football is a 439 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: lot like nuclear warfare. There are no winners, only survivors. 440 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 3: I would survival if I don't know if you saw that. 441 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: I read that article that they did and when they 442 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 1: interviewed I think guys with the guys that got drafted 443 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety eight in nineteen eighty eight, two years. 444 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: So guys that came in in eighty eight, their average 445 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: age is about sixty two. 446 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: Oh, Jo, all of them. 447 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: Something heard, memory loss, get agitated, X, Y, and Z. 448 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: Nine out of ten say they do it all over again. 449 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: People ask me, knowing. 450 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:53,719 Speaker 2: What you know now? 451 00:22:54,640 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, you think I wouldn't, man, please, man, please, And. 452 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 3: Matter of fact, I'm just just thinking about it. 453 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 4: If I had the opportunity to do it all over again, 454 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 4: knowing what I know now, I would have added some 455 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 4: mold to it. 456 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 3: I would have added some more little seasoning. I love partially. Oh, man, man, 457 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 3: I would listen. 458 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 4: Hey, Paul Taglabu and Roger Goodell think I gave him 459 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 4: hell if I not what I know now, man, please 460 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 4: to be. 461 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: If I could go back and do it over again, 462 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: knowing what I know now, I would enjoyed it more. 463 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 3: Oh, instead of being so serious. 464 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was so tone of vision. I was so focused. 465 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: All I thought about was somebody taking my job, my 466 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: grandmother not being able to do what she did, not 467 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: been able to That's it. I did enjoy the journey. 468 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 2: I was just. 469 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: I tried, but it would keep me off the destination, 470 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: I would get sidetracked. So that's what I would do 471 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: different if I could do it, but obviously I can't. 472 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: That's why they say you're supposed to live a life 473 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: with no regret. I don't regret it, but I would 474 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: do knowing what you know now. That's the magnificent science 475 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: of hindsight is knowing today what you didn't know yesterday. 476 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 3: Is that. 477 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: I would definitely do it different. But first round pick 478 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: Dereck Harmon knee injury being a value by Tom to 479 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: say he will be evaluated. 480 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: Oh Joe, Jerry Jones just can't help himself. 481 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: Take a listen to what Jerry told Michael Irvin about 482 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: the Michael Parkson's situation. 483 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 7: They're in here make their percentage. Uh, they're in here 484 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 7: to Uh basically, yes, advise, my advise Michael. Come over 485 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 7: to the office and I'll show you exactly what I offered. 486 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 5: Michael. 487 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 7: We got it in the back. It's uh, with all 488 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 7: written down everything to go come down and look at that. 489 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 7: I would get over there, look at it. 490 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 5: You sure, absolutely look at it. 491 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 7: Here's my entire point. My point who is that basically 492 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 7: says this is ultimately recognizing we're trying to come together 493 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 7: for an agreement, but absolutely who is it to God 494 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 7: that can go with? And so the facts are, I 495 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 7: don't know that I've ever been around. I've never tried 496 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 7: to buy anything. I've never tried to do anything that 497 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 7: I actually was going to bring all of the services 498 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 7: and somebody else was going to do all the money. 499 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 7: But because was the in between, guys, wasn't exactly the 500 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 7: guy that I had fit there that came from. That's 501 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 7: exactly what's happening here so many times in this in 502 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 7: this industry. 503 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: Oh Joe, Yeah, what you did hear him say is 504 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: what I've been telling you. He said, Michael Parks is 505 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: on the contract for three more years, So that tells 506 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: you he's in the contract this year, and I got 507 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: two franchise tags. I'm not afraid to use him. Yeah, 508 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: he said the quiet part finally out loud. 509 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, listen, he says a lot of things out 510 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 4: loud that that are supposed to be supposed to remain quiet. 511 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 3: I also heard some things that he said listen to 512 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 3: that I saw. 513 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 4: I saw a clip on Twitter Jerry Jones saying that 514 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 4: David how he says the agent's last name letter B 515 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 4: letter said he told him he could take the contract 516 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 4: and show it. And I heard Ryan Clark respond to 517 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 4: that because Ryan obviously called Dave the ass, Right did 518 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 4: you tell Jerry that? 519 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 3: And obviously he said everything Jerry's is saying it wasn't true. 520 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 3: It was a lie. And this is one of the. 521 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 4: Tactics that Jerry uses, Yes, which is one of the 522 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 4: ways that he continues the fool fans in general, just 523 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 4: and Jenny, and he has everybody on their side by 524 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 4: coming out and saying, I gave Micah a contract that 525 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 4: was going to making the highest paid at his position, 526 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 4: a non quarterback. 527 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 3: Jerry, At what point do owners do deals with the player? 528 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 2: Jerry? 529 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: That's not business, right, that's not how like a business? 530 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, I give you a prime example, Jerry. Just 531 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: like you guys have Roger Goodell. He's the mild piece 532 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: for the owners, right. We understand that he works at 533 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: the best of the owners. That's why I don't get 534 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: mad at Roger Goodell. Everybody get mad at Roger Godell, said, man, 535 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: Roger did this. Roger did nothing that those thirty two 536 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: owners didn't want him to do. Yeah, when he got 537 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: cauld y'all remember when he got mad at when Jerry 538 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: got mad at Roger for suspending Zeke. They had already 539 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: approved his financial package. Jerry held it up. Arthur Blank said, 540 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: we already approved this. We're not now, we're not doing this, Jerry. 541 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: Jerry said, I want to know why the mad Jerry 542 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: had already signed off on it. All the owners had 543 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: already signed off on it that needed to sign off 544 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: on it. But Jerry got mad because Roger suspended Zeke. 545 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: Jerry held a package up, and they used to have 546 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: a big six Jerry Jones, mister Craft, Daniel Snyder, a 547 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: few other guys. 548 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 2: They kind of that was Roger's right hand right. 549 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: They kind of ran the show that all the owners, 550 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: you know, a thirty two, but you know some have 551 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: a little bit more influence than others. 552 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit more power. 553 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So I'm not surprised. I don't 554 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: know why, Jerry, Michael. That's why you have to be careful. 555 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: See you go, you went in there thinking, yo, just 556 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: ay you doing something? A little leadership. He started talking numbers. 557 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: Jerry think y'all got a deal? You just think you 558 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: guys talking about leadership and a what you need to 559 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: do to get better, and. 560 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 4: You know what, you know what's funny. You know what 561 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 4: the owner's gonna always do. They gonna always lowball you too. Now, yeah, 562 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 4: they're gonna always lowball you. And the fact that Michael Parsons, 563 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 4: as smart as he may be, as smart as he 564 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 4: may be when it comes to that contracts and that 565 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 4: fine print in that language, or you don't know nothing 566 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 4: about that. 567 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: If he wanted to take the Bobby Wagner approach, ojo, 568 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: if you wanted to take the Bobby Wagner approach, Richard 569 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: Sherman ended up doing it. Lamar and his mom ended 570 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: up doing I think they had an attorney. Somebody read 571 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: over the fine France say okay, this blah blah blah. Okay, 572 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: that's fine, but Michael has given no indication. Well, if 573 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: that's the because Michael, I think, if I'm not mistaken, 574 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: I think he's been with athletes first, uh, since he 575 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: came out. You know, Michael's got an agent. Yeah, but 576 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: you try to excuse me. You tried to circ convent 577 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: the agent. So you tried so in other words, he 578 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: tried to do a back alley deal, backdoor d O 579 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: O joe. 580 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 3: But you can't do that that's bad business. 581 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: Jerry. 582 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: First, the NFL is the NFL and the nfl PA's 583 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: fault because Jerry knows he's not supposed to negotiate contracts. 584 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 2: He knows that. 585 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: But the nfl PA, with their weak asses, allow it. 586 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: The NFL that that's afraid of Jerry Jones because he'll 587 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: sue them, just like Al Davis. 588 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 2: So they let him do it. 589 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 3: Wait, Jerry sue who the illeague. 590 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: The same way. 591 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is the only arnor the only thing that 592 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: he's that. He's a part of the what they call 593 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: it revenue sharing the TV. He has his own merchandise 594 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: deal with everybody who with Coke, he's with Pepsi with 595 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: everybody with Rebok, he's with Nike. 596 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 3: Hey boy, he running it and he run his own program. 597 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 5: Man. 598 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 4: That's that's how David And you know what the game 599 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 4: that he's playing right now, it lets me know because 600 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 4: I got his fans all over Twitter to see see 601 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 4: Jerry's gonna make Micael the highest paid and they really 602 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 4: don't understand the game he's playing. 603 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 3: Fans don't understand. They they falling forward. 604 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: So let me get this straight. 605 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: Because he said, like come on, man, y'all, how much 606 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: is how much is a Miles Garrett guaranteed? So without 607 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: even know it because at the time, Miles Garrett contract 608 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: wasn't done, right, hej Watt contract wasn't done. The highest 609 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: paid with the guaranteed money was Nick Bosa. So you 610 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: mean to tell me sight unseen he was willing to 611 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: go to a number that's more than Miles Garrett. Miles 612 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: Gary got one hundred and twenty four million guaranteed. What 613 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: was Nick Bosa's guarantee? Because at the time because Nick Bosa, 614 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: so Nick did Max Crosby. Then the Dale Hunter's the 615 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: what's the total to one forty? So Miles Garrett got 616 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: one forty a one sixty forty a year, one twenty four. 617 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 2: Four for one sixty. 618 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: Bosa got five for one seventy, which is about thirty 619 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: about thirty four million a year. Then if my math 620 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: serves me correct, Okay, I'm. 621 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 4: Just hey boy, Jerry shot out, bro Jerry tried to 622 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 4: hit Michael with a little banana in the tailpipe. 623 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: And you see what he does. You see what he did, 624 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: don't Joe? He put it out there like you said, 625 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,479 Speaker 1: and fans look at Michael. Look what he got out 626 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: there TVD and' that's what he says. 627 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 3: Oh, he put up a little freer Michael Michael seven eight. 628 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: He said, even if I fall, I will rise. The 629 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 2: Lord is my life. Hey, that's Michael getting Michael getting biblical. 630 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 3: Hey, and you know it's serious. 631 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 2: You know it's serious when you start going. 632 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 3: To the you know, to the scriptures. 633 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: Here are he removed all cowboy stuff from his social Yeah, 634 00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, I ain't see that. 635 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,959 Speaker 2: Look, I know David, I know his agent a little bit. 636 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 2: Spoke to him. 637 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: I don't speak to him as much now, but I 638 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: used to speak to him fairly, a fairly decent amount. 639 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: This doesn't sound like him now. I don't want to 640 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: be I don't want to be the one that says 641 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: what a person will or won't say. Oh Joe, But 642 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm just said in my interactions with him, he doesn't 643 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: come off as that type of person to me, right, Jerry, 644 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: Jerry is trying to sway public opinion. Put that out there, Hey, 645 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 1: the public, Hey, Michael being greedy. Michael ain't no team 646 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: Michael's not a team player, because if he's a team player, 647 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,479 Speaker 1: he would take this deal, leave some money for somebody else, 648 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. 649 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 4: And because they listen, they eating it up. Yep, they 650 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 4: eat it up, not knowing that's the game. That's the 651 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 4: that's the game, and they don't see it that way. 652 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 3: They just see it what. It's one sided. Because if 653 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 3: you're a Cowboy fan, Lord, you're a Cowboy fan. 654 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: You're not a Michael Parson. You're Michael Parsons fan because 655 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: he plays for the Cowboys. 656 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 2: Boy. So therefore if he goes somewhere else, yeah. 657 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 3: It's oh man, it's crazy, it's crazy. 658 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: It is. 659 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 3: It's a game. Game and Jerry knows how to play 660 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 3: it very well. 661 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: Yes, because you've been playing it longer than Michael. Michael's 662 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: twenty six Jerry on the Cowboys since nineteen eighty nine, 663 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: so that end and of itself. Plus, Jerry Jones has 664 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: been this businessman. He knows business. That's why, michaeh how 665 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: an agent. You hire people that know what you don't. 666 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 4: And you know what the funny thing is when it 667 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,919 Speaker 4: comes that this kind of business with this kind of money, Yeah, 668 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 4: it's not fair. 669 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 3: It's not fair. 670 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 4: And negotiations will expose people for who they truly are 671 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 4: and how they really feel about you. When it comes 672 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 4: you think your value is right, Well, damn, that's how 673 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 4: you really feel about me? Well, hell, Jerry already said, 674 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 4: or you let mikeel know how you feel about you? 675 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 3: He said, would you see in your mind? He said 676 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 3: it out loud, He. 677 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: Said, okay, oh Joe, okay, what you what? Y'all agree? 678 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: Y'all ain't agreed to Ain't no ink on no paper? No, no, 679 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 1: Oh Joe, did you realize at one point in time, 680 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 1: Google tried to sell itself. 681 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 2: Google tried to sell itself for a billion? They said, nah, 682 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 2: we're good. 683 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 1: I think it was y'all who said, nah, that's too much, 684 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: realized that made a mistake, came back, tried to buble again. 685 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 2: It said, nah, okay, it wasn't no ink on no paper, right? 686 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 5: Uh? 687 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 2: Who's that about? 688 00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 7: You? 689 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 2: Met about you? Who about you? Google? 690 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 3: Google? 691 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 2: About YouTube? About y'all? 692 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 693 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 2: Full little of nothing? Google? 694 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:19,919 Speaker 1: How much YouTube revenue it generates for Google every twenty 695 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: one days? 696 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 2: Just google that? 697 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,919 Speaker 3: Wait what I put? 698 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 2: See how much Google paid to buy YouTube? 699 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: Now see how much money YouTube generates and ree and advertising. 700 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 4: Google acquired YouTube in two thousand and six for one 701 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 4: point six. 702 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 3: Billion. 703 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: Okay, one point six billion, not Google, how much advertise? 704 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: How much money Google generates and advertising revenue just in 705 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: every twenty one days? 706 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,280 Speaker 3: What the fuck? 707 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 7: Oh? 708 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 2: Okay, how many? How much to Joe? 709 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 3: Five billion? 710 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 2: Okay, h goy, leave yesterday's price a today's price. 711 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 5: Man. 712 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 4: Google had a nine hundred ninety six zero point five 713 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 4: billion fourth quarter revenue. Mm hmmm, not the first three 714 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 4: the fourth quarter. That's that's a different world, or that's 715 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 4: a different world where Yep, that's a whole different world. 716 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 1: Now you see what I'm getting at. Yeah, So, Jerry, 717 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: what you thought the price was in March? It main 718 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: wasn't no new contract. That ain't what the price is 719 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: in August September. But I told you what he's gonna do. 720 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,919 Speaker 1: I said, Oh, Joe, the problem that that he has. 721 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: That that's why the first thing I said, get away 722 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: with the franchise tag. Oh yeah, you want the money 723 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 1: to go off exponentially, get away with the French get away, 724 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: do away with the franchise tags. 725 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 3: Yep, that should be. 726 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 4: That should be the first thing gone first, and the 727 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 4: second should be the goddamn help lifetime benefits yep, health benefits. 728 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 4: And then we'll work on the guarantee contracts labs. But 729 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 4: in that, in that, in that specific order. 730 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: You can't have free agency if somebody still controls your 731 00:39:51,600 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: right mm hmm, that could franchise you. No, no, but 732 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 1: hopefully uh Mike and the Cowboys get this thing worked out. 733 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: He gets a number that he's feel comforted, that he 734 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,919 Speaker 1: feels comfortable with, and everybody's happy with, because that's where 735 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 1: it comes That's what it comes down to. Okay, Oh Joe, 736 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: we got a very special guest joining us tonight. We 737 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: got two time Pro Bowl cornerback from the Chicago Bears, 738 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson? 739 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 2: JJ? What do you do? 740 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 5: What's that have been living? 741 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 2: Man? I'm doing great, man? How are you living? 742 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,439 Speaker 5: I'm good. I ain't gonna lie to tell you I'm 743 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 5: tired of him. 744 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: Well, hold on, hold on, y'all have practice. Y'all got 745 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,919 Speaker 1: a game tomorrow, y'all, game tomorrow. 746 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 5: On Saturday tomorrow. We in KC right now. 747 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 2: Okay, but y'all, but it's it's slow buggy now. 748 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it's slow boogey. You gotta have that steak 749 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 5: dinner though. I got that, I got the hi is, 750 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 5: I done, got out the shower and everything. I'm ready 751 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 5: to go. 752 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: Oh oh, you're right ready to lay it down. Okay, 753 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: listen the Bears defense, Oh yo on. We saw you 754 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 1: guys the other night. You guys wore flying around offense 755 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,320 Speaker 1: looked really good. Defense was getting after people. What have 756 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: you been most of? What has Ben Johnson coming over 757 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: from the Lions? What has he been able to steal? 758 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: Because instealing you guys, because you guys look different. I 759 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: know it's pre season and I want to I don't 760 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: want to get too carried away, Jay, but you guys 761 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: look different. You guys look different. 762 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 5: I think the message is different. 763 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 8: Honestly speaking, I feel like it's one of those things 764 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 8: where talking to him personally and listening to him in 765 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 8: the team meetings, he's he's like he's one of us 766 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 8: talking and when he gets up there, it's not like, Okay, yeah, 767 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 8: we're gonna go out here, we're gonna execute, and it's like, nah, 768 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 8: it's just about whooping the guys in front of you, 769 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 8: like really like dominating and it's stealing like your will. 770 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 8: And I think really just preaching that that goes a 771 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 8: long way, because I mean, I feel like even in 772 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 8: Detroit for a long time, they didn't have talented guys 773 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,320 Speaker 8: but they had a lot of guys that had great 774 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 8: as they like to say over there and guys that 775 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 8: work hard, that are tough and things like that. 776 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 5: So it's like him that that that fits him, so 777 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 5: just really coming for us. And I mean even Dennis 778 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,399 Speaker 5: Allend he's telling defense then that we live every day 779 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 5: in practice. 780 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 8: So just really that mentality as far as going and 781 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 8: playing physical, it's like really just honestly overdoing it really 782 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 8: is the thing that we think of really in the 783 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 8: defensive room, and really what we said like total line, 784 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 8: total line between going too far and and and really 785 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 8: pushing the limits. 786 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 4: Have you have you been able to tell the difference 787 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 4: in Kayleb Williams the way he commands the offense, the 788 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 4: way he's playing with Ben Johnson atter him calling the place. 789 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 4: Is he is he carrying himself with a little bit 790 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 4: more confidence as opposed to how he did last year? 791 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 3: Can you can you sense that a little bit in camp? 792 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 2: Yeah? 793 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 8: For sure, I think really before camp kind of coming 794 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 8: in of course off the rookie year, it was it 795 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 8: was tough to losing straight the instability and all the 796 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 8: drama that came with of course his first year. So 797 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 8: I mean really just coming into that second year, having 798 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 8: all that adversity really under your belt. There's really no 799 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 8: worse that you can do. I feel like outside of 800 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 8: what happened with us, So I feel like just really 801 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 8: for him going back to the drawing board, getting better 802 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 8: and then just coming to the building ready to work. 803 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,760 Speaker 8: But I mean for him it's always he's always been confident. 804 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 8: I think it's that that that's not something that's ever 805 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 8: gonna change. I think it's just now about execution. 806 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: Jay, you one of the few vets last year that 807 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 1: you called out your teammates. You didn't just say put 808 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,280 Speaker 1: it all on the coaches. You put it on players also. 809 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: So you can lead a horse to water, but you 810 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: can't you can't make him drink. It's like, you know, 811 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: some of these guys lack motivation. What were you trying 812 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,240 Speaker 1: to say without calling out any specific names your message? 813 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 1: Were you trying to get across to your teammates like 814 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: they're putting up he's probably this coach is gonna lose 815 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: his job. But if guess what, if you guys don't 816 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: pick up your plate, if you don't get better habits, 817 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: the next coach gonna come in here, he'll lose his 818 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: job too. 819 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, No, that's exactly what it is. 820 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 8: And I feel like a lot of times guys getting 821 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 8: the league's all men, this coach is this man, they 822 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 8: they playing me and they doing this like, nah, it's you. 823 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 8: Like for me, I'm one of those guys where it's 824 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,760 Speaker 8: like if we not if we getting beat on defense, 825 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 8: that means I'm getting beat individually, that means we all 826 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 8: getting beat collectively as a unit. 827 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 5: It's not necessarily the scheme. 828 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 8: And no we had bad eyes and the dude, we 829 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,240 Speaker 8: let a guy go free, or I didn't win my matchup, 830 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 8: whatever it is. 831 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 5: I don't think it's always fair to say. 832 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 8: Now, there's THEMN some coaches that can put you in 833 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 8: bad positions, But I think for me, my biggest thing 834 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 8: was always look at yourself first. And for us, I 835 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 8: f like we didn't have guys that exhausted every everything 836 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:27,720 Speaker 8: I fly after practice. 837 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 5: That'll tell you really what you have in the team. 838 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 8: How many guys are catching one hundred plus passes on drugs, 839 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 8: how many guys are working on technique, how many d 840 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 8: linemen are doing their past rushing drills, how many receivers 841 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 8: are working on releases. 842 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 5: With the DBS. To me, all that goes without being 843 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 5: having to be told to you. 844 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 8: So I think for me that's my biggest thing is like, Nah, 845 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 8: we can't call somebody else out, or we call ourselves out. 846 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 8: We gotta look at us and then put the work 847 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,880 Speaker 8: in individually, and then we can start pointing the fingers 848 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,399 Speaker 8: somewhat to everybody else. 849 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:57,359 Speaker 2: I'm looking at you, guys. 850 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 5: Man. 851 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 1: Last year, you guys had some guys on some close games. 852 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: I mean you you literally snatched defeat from the Joseph victory. 853 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how you guys did it. 854 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 2: You had to get it. 855 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,720 Speaker 5: You guys had a game bears doesn't a few times. 856 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question, Like when you 857 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: on the field at Washington and you're like, man, ain't 858 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 1: no way he could throw this ball this far. 859 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 2: Okay, but if he does, we gonna knock it down. 860 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 1: Or you see a situation where you have several games 861 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 1: that you guys were winning late in the ball game 862 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: and you end up losing. How frustrating is that when 863 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: a team young like yourself trying to win but seemingly 864 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: find ways to lose. 865 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 8: I know, Washington, that one still hurts me because they 866 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 8: showed all the damn time from that one, all the 867 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 8: other ones you kind of can forget about. But I 868 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 8: think just really in that moment, it's about maturity and 869 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 8: having that composure. 870 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 5: I feel it's really just about composures. 871 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 8: I feel I got times you let the moment get 872 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 8: too big and the execution slips. I feel even on 873 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 8: the hell may of course my dog wasn't locked in 874 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 8: on the other side, but I feel like even before that, 875 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 8: I feel like there's some things that we could have 876 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 8: been locked in and focused on in that moment, practicing. 877 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 2: Let that man get yard out what I ain't gonna 878 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 2: go ahead jab. 879 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 5: But it's really just stuff like that. Even late in 880 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 5: the game. 881 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 8: I know we had I think it was a close 882 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,280 Speaker 8: game with Green Bay, before Minnesota, Detroit, all those teams 883 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 8: of course divisional games. But I think it really just 884 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 8: comes down to that poise in the moment, that poison 885 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 8: executed when it comes down to it, Because I mean, 886 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 8: I feel like, again every team goes over situational ball. 887 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 8: It's not something that is a lack of knowledge. It's 888 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,399 Speaker 8: just really a lack of poison execution in that moment. 889 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 5: But that comes with experience. So hopefully we don't keep 890 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 5: having those same mistakes. 891 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 2: Looking at your offensive line, they reap. 892 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 8: What you got going, Onya, this ispanos say hellopanosanos. 893 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, that little bit he said. Hold on what you 894 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 2: try to say, Jay, what you tried to say? 895 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 5: All right, he's gonna get bigger, he gonna stay that side. 896 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 7: No, this is it. 897 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 5: Come on, I don't know what you got. 898 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 2: This is big, the big with upstairs that he is paying. 899 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 5: He's sleep understood. 900 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,879 Speaker 1: Do you think you see offensive line? That's my point. 901 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: I look at what you did offensively. You guys went 902 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 1: and got three a little I think three new starters. 903 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. You drafted tight end in the first round 904 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 1: to go with co commit with Dj Moore, you got, 905 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 1: I mean the kills you got guys at a Roman 906 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,959 Speaker 1: dudes a your first round draft pick. Offensively, you guys 907 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,320 Speaker 1: should be better. But you do realize, Jay, if the 908 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 1: offense gets better, that doesn't mean you get to take 909 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 1: a step back. 910 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 2: You have to meet them where they are. 911 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, that I think too. For us in 912 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 5: Chicago were defensive city. So I mean they mean that's 913 00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 5: where we're at. 914 00:47:58,600 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 2: Okay, that's what's up. 915 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 8: That's what we're not worried about. Matching matching them on 916 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,399 Speaker 8: what they're doing. So I think for us just really 917 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 8: just keeping that that's our that's our culture. I mean tough, 918 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 8: gritty Chicago bar. I mean it starts with the defense, 919 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 8: so we're not really tripping. I mean, Dennis Our leading 920 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 8: the hell of a hell of a defense. 921 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 2: At bit. 922 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,879 Speaker 5: I love me some d A right now. He ain't 923 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 5: he ain't. 924 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 8: He ain't running me wrong yet, So I love da 925 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 8: our Hairris of course is the DB's coaching, teaching us 926 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 8: and really showing us how to take the ball away. 927 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 8: So I mean for us on defense, we we're not 928 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 8: worried about setting that setting that standard. 929 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 5: We're gonna push the bar a little bit. 930 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 4: Hey, listen, you being one of the better man the 931 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 4: man DB's in the NFL, right, I ask you your 932 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 4: your opinion on who you think the top five receivers 933 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 4: are in the game right now and the most difficult 934 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 4: challenge for you to cover so. 935 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 5: Farve top five. I feel like top five you gotta 936 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 5: put some details on. Is it just skill? Are we 937 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 5: going off production how you want to? I mean like 938 00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 5: it's kind of different. 939 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,439 Speaker 2: You fake? What about the ones you face? 940 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 3: Let's go, let's go all the guys you face, you 941 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 3: could you can? 942 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 5: You can? 943 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,959 Speaker 3: They still top five based off those you face? 944 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 5: Uh, I would say no order, I would say justin. 945 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:22,359 Speaker 5: I say a J. Brown, I'll go to ree Kill. 946 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 5: That's three mm hmmm that I faced. Mm hmmm. 947 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,359 Speaker 2: I don't know if you see I'm Rock because he's 948 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 2: main in the slot. 949 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say it's it's it's tough because he's good. 950 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 5: I think for me, I don't. I just don't get 951 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,360 Speaker 5: enough reps against him. Jamar. 952 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 8: I only seen him when he was a rookie early 953 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 8: in the season, so I haven't really seen seen him. 954 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 8: But I would still throw Jamar in my top five 955 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 8: for sure. 956 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,879 Speaker 5: Four not for five. 957 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 8: This would be I probably I would say ceedee Lamb 958 00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 8: is in my top five. I know as far as covers, 959 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,879 Speaker 8: I would throw Mike Evans in there. He's definitely giving 960 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 8: me some problems, especially early in my career. Yeah, those 961 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 8: are probably the hardest guys on top of my top 962 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 8: five in Gune. 963 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 3: Okay, there's dope. Listen. 964 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 4: I know you had your team goals, you know what 965 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,720 Speaker 4: you want to do defensively, are you Are you allowed 966 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,839 Speaker 4: to tell us any individual goals you might. 967 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 3: Have for this season. 968 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that ain't against no rules from what I. 969 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 2: Na me. 970 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,320 Speaker 4: I know some people, some people don't don't want to disclose, 971 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 4: you know what the individual goals are. 972 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 5: So I mean I just I'm all yeah, no, I'm 973 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 5: all good. I gotta memorized now. 974 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 7: I know. 975 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 5: I want to have seven interceptions, three force fumble. 976 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:45,240 Speaker 8: So I want to have ten turnovers, fifty percent completion 977 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 8: or lower than fifty percent, no touchdowns allowed. 978 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 5: And then what was my last one? 979 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 8: What was my last stat I think I was like 980 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 8: seven or so TFLs and then it's like I'm missing 981 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 8: one more. I think it was three hundred, no more 982 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 8: than three hundred yards giving up in the season. 983 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 5: I like that defensive score pick six scoop and score 984 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 5: all three touchdowns. That was the last one. That was 985 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 5: the last one, three touchdowns. 986 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 3: Hey, what did you do? 987 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 5: He said, what did you? 988 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 2: What did you do different this year to make those 989 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 2: goals a reality? 990 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 5: About a jugg machine, about a judging machine forself? 991 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 8: Definitely just getting my catches in. And it's crazy because 992 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 8: it's like being in dB. You don't you're not really 993 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,399 Speaker 8: taught to catching techniques and how to track the ball. 994 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 8: What part of the ball to track to look at 995 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 8: you just kind of just go out there and catch it. 996 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 8: But it's like when I was on the jug seeing it, 997 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 8: We're kind of looking at different things. I'm like, nah, 998 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 8: you really gotta. 999 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 5: See see the tip, like you see the tip you falls. 1000 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. You know, I 1001 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 2: ain't saying nothing. I wasn't saying a word. Do you 1002 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 2: clean that up? 1003 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:00,319 Speaker 3: Good? 1004 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 8: I'm told, Hello, seeing the point in the point of 1005 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 8: the football, yeah yeah, yeah helps you. 1006 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it helps you. 1007 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 5: Helped you catch it a lot better. You can see 1008 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:11,400 Speaker 5: you can catch us. 1009 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,439 Speaker 8: I think for me that's been the biggest thing, getting 1010 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 8: reps at that, and then really everything else is always 1011 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 8: working on technique, make sure I'm in position. But other 1012 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 8: than that, it's really just a mind a mindset going 1013 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:21,719 Speaker 8: and seeing the ball and the balls and their going 1014 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 8: to go get it. 1015 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1016 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 1: I think the thing is is that you have to 1017 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: think because as a dB you're taught to knock the 1018 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,799 Speaker 1: ball down. You have to retrain the way you think 1019 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,439 Speaker 1: you got like I got to go catch this ball. 1020 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 1: As a receiver, we're taught you'll catch it. We ain't 1021 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,279 Speaker 1: trying to not. I mean, obviously if the balls go 1022 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 1: about to be intercepted. We talked to knock it down, 1023 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,880 Speaker 1: but you're more mainly talked more so to knock it 1024 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,760 Speaker 1: down than catch it. So now you have to retrain yourself. 1025 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 1: You see guys that get a lot of picks. You 1026 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,399 Speaker 1: see like a like a Dion or Rod Wilson chalk. 1027 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 2: They like, no, no, no, no, no no. Did you 1028 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,399 Speaker 2: play wide receiver when you at any point in time 1029 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:51,839 Speaker 2: did you play? 1030 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 3: In high school? 1031 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 8: I had a little package or something, but I was 1032 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 8: I played defense, always, defensive specialists. 1033 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 1: Because most guys like playing quarterback with a wide receiver 1034 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:02,759 Speaker 1: or something. 1035 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 2: That that was a dB. 1036 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 5: So they crazy, it's a lot easier to catch the 1037 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 5: office and defense. I promise you that it is. 1038 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 8: And I don't know why, but I feel like when 1039 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,800 Speaker 8: I play receivers like that, it's easy to like, I 1040 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,280 Speaker 8: didn't really drop too many passes, but when I gott 1041 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 8: and get on defense, I feel like it's a lot. 1042 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 5: It's a lot different. 1043 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 1: Because you and you do realize on offense when the 1044 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 1: ball is coming your way, we're actually trying to throw 1045 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:23,840 Speaker 1: it to you. 1046 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 2: See you when the ball coming your way, that you 1047 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 2: cover it. 1048 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 5: Love that love that. 1049 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 4: Hey I got I got one more question, one more question. 1050 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 4: Normally normally playing dB. Obviously I'm a huge fan. I'm 1051 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 4: a huge fan of dB play. How do you know 1052 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 4: when to take chances when you know what's coming, based 1053 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:53,360 Speaker 4: on alignment, based on tendencies that you see watching film? 1054 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 4: How do you know when to take those chances? So basically, 1055 00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 4: think about the South Eastamy on film. I'm going with it, Yeah, 1056 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,840 Speaker 4: getting axceptions. He would always jump stuff because Okay, I 1057 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 4: know I saw this, I saw this on film. 1058 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 3: I know how you know when to take those chances 1059 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 3: and when not to. 1060 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 5: Honestly, I feel like it's not as simple as that. 1061 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 8: I like, if you know, you know, and I'm like, 1062 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 8: if you don't, then you gotta someone be play reaction 1063 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 8: in that game from there. But I think a lot 1064 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,960 Speaker 8: of times when you not even when you study, when 1065 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 8: you look at the game. And for me, I've learned 1066 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,320 Speaker 8: this as I've gotten older. In the game, it's like 1067 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 8: the offense is based on timing and spacing. So it's 1068 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,760 Speaker 8: like if you can understand their formations and the spacing 1069 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 8: at their end and you can get your read on 1070 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 8: the quarterback to getting the timing of the routes, because 1071 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 8: I mean you're not going to get a three step 1072 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 8: and then he's. 1073 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:42,880 Speaker 5: Running the nine ball. 1074 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 8: I mean that he's probably not gonna get the ball 1075 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 8: in depending if you're playing off man, at least if 1076 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,840 Speaker 8: you're playing off So it's like really matching it up 1077 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 8: to where it's okay, if I can read the quarterback 1078 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,399 Speaker 8: get my three step, read, he's either got a hits, 1079 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 8: he got a slant, and really that's about it. So 1080 00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,360 Speaker 8: it's I have no really no need to move. I 1081 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,279 Speaker 8: think the biggest thing is the confidence. And I don't 1082 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 8: even say jump believe what you see, yeah, and taking 1083 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,279 Speaker 8: it away. I think because when you sit there and 1084 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 8: you see that guy running full speed, and I know 1085 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 8: receivers like to work on the deception and come off hard, 1086 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 8: but you're really not going deep. It's like you got 1087 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 8: to be confident in yourself to where when you see 1088 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 8: it it's like, nah, I know this is this is fake. 1089 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 5: I'm about to go or just wait on it and 1090 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 5: then just really go from there. 1091 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,759 Speaker 8: I think watching more film and like even watching dig 1092 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,919 Speaker 8: since we got out over here, it's like he wasn't 1093 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 8: taking chances. He just seen it like you would just 1094 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,440 Speaker 8: see the quarterback he would I mean he would get 1095 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 8: a good read on it. 1096 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 2: So, oh yeah, I forgot that's your dB coach man. 1097 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you over here with the good guys. 1098 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 3: I said, what's up man Will Will? 1099 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 5: He told me he put Paul's on you back. 1100 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:49,759 Speaker 3: In the day. 1101 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 2: What kind of Paul? 1102 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:51,959 Speaker 3: What kind of Paul do you talk about? 1103 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 2: Well, he might be. 1104 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,439 Speaker 3: I don't want no hour nice though a JJ Yeah, 1105 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,440 Speaker 3: yeah I know him. And back when they was in 1106 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 3: Green Bay. 1107 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:13,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, the dreads. Yeah, hey, Al would take a chance 1108 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,560 Speaker 1: now and you had to play with Al. You remember 1109 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 1: Seattle with the saying, hey he the quarterback called heads. 1110 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 7: That. 1111 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 2: I say, no, you're not. 1112 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:25,719 Speaker 3: Here's the other way. 1113 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, no, I love having hour. 1114 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 8: It's for sure that ball mentality, especially like when you 1115 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,320 Speaker 8: see three step and he didn't. You're mad at the 1116 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 8: DB's when he ain't driving the three stele. We ain't 1117 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 8: driving certain routes when we see the quarterback. So it's 1118 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,240 Speaker 8: all about really getting those reasons, having confidence. 1119 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 1: You do realize that the corners, you guys live on 1120 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 1: an island. It's you and that guy is mono a mono. 1121 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,120 Speaker 1: That's that's the matchup. And a lot of times you 1122 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 1: ain't got no help. You gotta have you got to 1123 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,320 Speaker 1: have you to play corner. You gotta have amnesia because 1124 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna give up some all. Guy's gonna run a 1125 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,880 Speaker 1: great route. He get paid, just like you do. He studied, 1126 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 1: he's studying Jalen, just like you studying him. 1127 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,319 Speaker 2: But how do you how are you. 1128 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,280 Speaker 1: Able to block it out? You give up a touchdown 1129 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,439 Speaker 1: or you give up a big play. How you able 1130 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 1: to block it out? Like, okay, that happened, especially if 1131 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,000 Speaker 1: it's early, ignoring that you got three and a half 1132 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 1: quarters left to play. 1133 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think for me, it's it's it's life. I 1134 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 5: feel like dB. Playing dB for me is just another 1135 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:27,880 Speaker 5: another area of life for me. 1136 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 8: As far as stuff gonna happen to you early in life, 1137 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,480 Speaker 8: stuff gonna happen to you late in life, and it's 1138 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 8: like you still got life to live. 1139 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,360 Speaker 2: So I mean, for me, I don't like that. 1140 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 5: I don't get too caught up in it. 1141 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 8: It's at the end of the day, when you live 1142 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 8: long enough, you're gonna mess up and you're gonna do 1143 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 8: some good things. When you play dB long enough, you're 1144 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 8: gonna give up some You're gonna break up some passes. 1145 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 8: So I think for me, it's really as simple as that. 1146 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 5: I think. 1147 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 8: I know Media said in one of her movies, or 1148 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 8: in one of the movies, I gotta get them one 1149 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 8: of they get me. 1150 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I feel like that's really the that's 1151 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:57,439 Speaker 5: really the name of the game. 1152 00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 8: I think honestly, he's just trying to not get God 1153 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 8: as many and as less as you can, and then 1154 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 8: get them more as much as you can. But it's 1155 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,640 Speaker 8: really that simple, I think too, especially when you're going 1156 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,920 Speaker 8: against top guys. I mean, I personally got a gauntlet 1157 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 8: this year with all the receivers I'm gonna see it, 1158 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,440 Speaker 8: so it's like I'm gonna enjoy it. 1159 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:14,920 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, they gonna catch some passes. 1160 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,560 Speaker 8: But again, for me, as long as I win more 1161 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,480 Speaker 8: than I lose and turn the ball over, I feel 1162 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 8: like I'll be good. 1163 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 2: Well, good luck this season, man, stay healthy. 1164 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 3: Already. 1165 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,720 Speaker 5: What's up y'all? 1166 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 3: Y'all y'all at home week one? 1167 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 5: Yes, Monday night, you're gonna pull up huh. 1168 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 3: Matter of fact, you know what I gotta be. 1169 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 4: I gotta be at the sports book age on Sunday 1170 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:39,880 Speaker 4: for God. 1171 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 5: Okay, I got a week one. 1172 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 3: I met the sports book on Sunday at really feel 1173 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:45,440 Speaker 3: so I'm. 1174 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 5: Gonna be at the game on Monday, though. 1175 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,120 Speaker 3: I'll stay if you can give me, If you give 1176 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 3: me a ticket, I'll get whatever you need. Just holler 1177 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 3: let me, man. No, I really got to be there, 1178 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 3: all no, No, I really got to be the dead ass, 1179 00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:57,720 Speaker 3: no doubt. 1180 00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 5: Tell your people, hit my people, and I'll take care 1181 00:58:59,480 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 5: of you. 1182 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 3: We found all right, Bet. I can come over to 1183 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 3: see hi stuff and get autographs and stuff. 1184 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 5: Hey, man, it's all it's you. 1185 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 2: It's you, man. 1186 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:06,880 Speaker 5: I'll talk to a lot of people. 1187 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,960 Speaker 3: Let's go. I got you, all right, Bet, I'm gonna 1188 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 3: let y'all all. 1189 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,480 Speaker 1: Right, Ja, stay healthy, man, good luck this season. Man, 1190 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 1: we're chat down the road, no doubt. Jalen Johnson, cornerback 1191 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 1: for the Chicago Bears. 1192 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,120 Speaker 3: He nice too, boy. 1193 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah. Oh Joe. 1194 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 1: Troy Aikman spoke about Michael Parson's leverage. His leverage is 1195 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 1: they can't win without him. Without Michael Parsons, I just 1196 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 1: don't think they're going to be able to spoil anybody down. Now, 1197 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,000 Speaker 1: what the Cowboys are gonna do? You think they you 1198 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,440 Speaker 1: think you think I know the answer to that. But 1199 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 1: the longer they wait, the price just continues to go up. 1200 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 1: For Michael Parsons, Troy is no stranger to watching holdouts. 1201 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 1: Emmitt held out lasted two days before Jerry came to 1202 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,240 Speaker 1: a census. They went oh and two, They got Emmitt back, 1203 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,080 Speaker 1: and they ended up winning the Super Bowl. I think 1204 00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,120 Speaker 1: Emmett led the league in rushing that year. Should we 1205 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:04,840 Speaker 1: expect the holdout? Do you foresee a holdout until Michael 1206 01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Parks gets his money or does he come in. 1207 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,560 Speaker 2: And play in good faith? 1208 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 3: Who come and playing good faith? Michael and Mike ain't, 1209 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,840 Speaker 3: no goddamn fool, Absolutely not. I told you. 1210 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 4: They will always use that against you if they know 1211 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 4: you're a foe because you love the game of football, 1212 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 4: they'll play They're playing your face all day. 1213 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:26,680 Speaker 3: They were playing your face all day. 1214 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Michael better not come back, no, sir, no, sorry, 1215 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:34,280 Speaker 4: especially especially with the owners come out and said and 1216 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 4: the game of the game of mind games that Jerry's 1217 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,880 Speaker 4: playing to publicly talk about your agent, you talked about 1218 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 4: the player. 1219 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:48,480 Speaker 3: Oh hell nah, I'm not coming back, absolutely not. 1220 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,080 Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, Well what's the point. What's the point in 1221 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 4: paying him? He might miss games like you did last 1222 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 4: year over them. 1223 01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 2: That still irk you that he said that. Huh you know, 1224 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:01,240 Speaker 2: how do you? 1225 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,880 Speaker 4: I'm still can't, like, how do you say something like 1226 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,640 Speaker 4: that about your player. That's something that you think that 1227 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,440 Speaker 4: you don't want to say to yourself, like, damn, I 1228 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 4: paid him all this money and now he's on the 1229 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 4: sideline hurt. 1230 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:13,920 Speaker 3: You don't say that out. 1231 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 2: Loud, you speaking stuff into existence. 1232 01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 3: Like I mean, man, but y by you lucky. You 1233 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:23,920 Speaker 3: know what. 1234 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:26,440 Speaker 2: I'm with me. 1235 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,680 Speaker 4: I'm with me some good money and I'm gonna go 1236 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:34,640 Speaker 4: buy the Cowboys. You laughing, I'm gonna go buy the 1237 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,120 Speaker 4: Cowboys and me and you gonna run it. 1238 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 1: Oh yo, there ain't enough lotteries being played for us 1239 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 1: to get enough money to buy the Cowboys. 1240 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 3: You never know, you never know, never never say that, Oh. 1241 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,920 Speaker 1: Joe, that's tied to his whole identity even when he dead, 1242 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 1: And don't former Cowboys older Jerry Jones, so hey, we 1243 01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,040 Speaker 1: might can pull our penning together and get something that 1244 01:01:58,160 --> 01:01:59,040 Speaker 1: get it on something else. 1245 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 2: O yo, But the Cowboys they did. 1246 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:07,200 Speaker 1: Look, that's that's that's something that you sit down and 1247 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,280 Speaker 1: talk with your agent. How well you've done with your 1248 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:13,920 Speaker 1: money that you can with stand twenty million dollars, So 1249 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,360 Speaker 1: that's basically a million dollars a week. 1250 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:16,720 Speaker 2: He'd be stepping away from. 1251 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,160 Speaker 3: Oh, you't got to step away. You can stay right there, 1252 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:24,080 Speaker 3: You stay right there. 1253 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 1: He ain't gonna play in the game. He gonna play 1254 01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 1: in the games. No, well, you don't play the games. 1255 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,480 Speaker 1: You don't get paid back spasm. 1256 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 4: That's all right, he hurt, he in he there, he's 1257 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,800 Speaker 4: under contract, right, yes, okay, long as it if he 1258 01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:42,400 Speaker 4: shows up, Oh, my back hurt. 1259 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,160 Speaker 3: I can't play. Y'all want to play game, you can 1260 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,520 Speaker 3: play games. Oh he gonna get. 1261 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:52,800 Speaker 2: Paid that boy, that'd be an ugly situation. 1262 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 3: I mean, Jerry making it ugly. 1263 01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,120 Speaker 2: I can't say I disagree with you. 1264 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 3: Oh, I mean he I'm listen. If Jerry wanted to 1265 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:01,760 Speaker 3: play hardball. 1266 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:09,760 Speaker 2: He does. But hey, I don't know why Jerry. I don't. 1267 01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't know why Jerry does this. I don't know 1268 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,960 Speaker 1: why he wakes the week before the season. We saw 1269 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,960 Speaker 1: it with CD, we saw it with Dak, we see 1270 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,200 Speaker 1: it with Zeke he EMMITTT missed two games. The difference 1271 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,320 Speaker 1: was Emmitt didn't have a contract. See Emmitt did not 1272 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,160 Speaker 1: hold out. EMMITTT didn't have a contract. 1273 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,160 Speaker 3: At all at all. 1274 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:36,000 Speaker 2: Okay, So so uh. 1275 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:40,439 Speaker 3: Damn, I'm just thinking about that man. 1276 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:46,880 Speaker 9: May I boy, why oh we if I if I 1277 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:52,880 Speaker 9: own the Cowboys, I'm telling you, boy, well, well. 1278 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,680 Speaker 3: We have a super we have a Super Bowl every year. 1279 01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,560 Speaker 3: But I'm just spending everything for everybody. 1280 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 2: Uh, we need to start playing a lottery. 1281 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,480 Speaker 1: Then they don't have They don't have a lot of 1282 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,880 Speaker 1: right here in Vegas because they got casinos and they 1283 01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,280 Speaker 1: don't want you playing a lot of They want you 1284 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:10,920 Speaker 1: to go to casino. 1285 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:12,080 Speaker 3: They don't want you to double dip. 1286 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:13,280 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. 1287 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:15,960 Speaker 1: They don't want anything that's gonna take money out of 1288 01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 1: casino pockets. 1289 01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 4: So yeah, the Cowboys fans, they deserve, they deserve. They 1290 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,280 Speaker 4: deserve this man, they deserve a reason. 1291 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:26,400 Speaker 2: They deserve misery. 1292 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:31,760 Speaker 1: No, no, you remember cover Cluver Lry told Rocky, they say, 1293 01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,320 Speaker 1: what do you see for mister pain? 1294 01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,920 Speaker 2: Damn man, that's what. 1295 01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:41,640 Speaker 5: Uh. 1296 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:43,200 Speaker 2: It's tough. 1297 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,880 Speaker 1: It's tough because Michael has been an All Pro he's 1298 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,200 Speaker 1: been Defensive Rookie of the Year, he's been all those 1299 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 1: probos that he's been to and Jerry has compensated him 1300 01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:58,080 Speaker 1: from that. Now he's said, Jerry, have I played that 1301 01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:02,080 Speaker 1: contract based on what I believe I'll be the next 1302 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 1: forty five years. 1303 01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:04,240 Speaker 2: This is what I need. 1304 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:09,120 Speaker 1: Accordingly, Now, maybe it was he's gonna make the highest paid. 1305 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,840 Speaker 1: Now you got to make him highest paid again, which 1306 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 1: is more than what TJ. Watt got more guaranteed money said, 1307 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 1: he said, Michael said, I. 1308 01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,760 Speaker 2: Need like one hundred fifty What I need? I tell 1309 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:26,680 Speaker 2: you what, you know what I'm nice, one thirty five guaranteed. 1310 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,920 Speaker 2: I need like one eighty. I need like I need 1311 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:36,280 Speaker 2: like four years two twenty. 1312 01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,200 Speaker 4: Hey, you know what's funny when I think about it too, 1313 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,520 Speaker 4: and Jerry think he's slicked trying to make it seem 1314 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,840 Speaker 4: like he was gonna pay Michael Parson to have the 1315 01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:48,120 Speaker 4: highest paid But it was before Miles Garrett contract. 1316 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:49,040 Speaker 3: It was before TJ. 1317 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:49,920 Speaker 2: Watch J. Watt. 1318 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,840 Speaker 3: It would before and before you got Chase Crosby. 1319 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, before Chase. So it was gonna be in the 1320 01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:02,200 Speaker 1: forty So now, hey, bro, that thing at forty two forty. 1321 01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 3: Three, it wouldn't have been no good. 1322 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:04,920 Speaker 5: It would have been good. 1323 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:06,439 Speaker 3: No disrespect to those that are watching. 1324 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 4: I'm just saying in terms of the type of player 1325 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:13,000 Speaker 4: in caliber which Michael Parson, yeah, to be paid it 1326 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:13,919 Speaker 4: wouldn't be no good. 1327 01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:20,960 Speaker 3: And he young baby's twenty six. Baby, that's crazy. 1328 01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 2: Man, twenty six years of age. 1329 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I need all that. Yeah, I'm sorry, I need 1330 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 1: I need go. I tell you what, Jered, Hey, five, 1331 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:36,880 Speaker 1: give me five for two fifty. Damn five for two fifty. 1332 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 1: I don't want but one hundred five. I don't want 1333 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:40,920 Speaker 1: but one hundred forty hundred fifty guarantee. 1334 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,040 Speaker 3: Oh so the two fifty just just to make it 1335 01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:44,520 Speaker 3: look good. 1336 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that. I don't care 1337 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,760 Speaker 1: about the guarantee. I tell you what, Jared, you give 1338 01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,960 Speaker 1: me five for five hundred million, but I need one 1339 01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:53,520 Speaker 1: hundred fifty of it fully guaranteed. 1340 01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,280 Speaker 3: Okay, I like that all that. 1341 01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,120 Speaker 2: I don't care now about that fluff you said that 1342 01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,160 Speaker 2: put all that you see, all the plate that the 1343 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 2: plate be, all designed, they got all that stuff dribzled 1344 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,360 Speaker 2: all like that. Does it taste good? What's up on 1345 01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,240 Speaker 2: all that drizzle? Does it taste good? 1346 01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:08,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1347 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,760 Speaker 2: All that fluff? I see how much money is guaranteed. 1348 01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:13,680 Speaker 2: That's all that. 1349 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:15,160 Speaker 3: That's all that matters. 1350 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,200 Speaker 2: That's all I need to know what I'm gonna see