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Speaker 1: some of those things I believe are first and foremost

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Speaker 1: our strength and fitness, Second, our commitment towards service, and

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Speaker 1: third our commitment towards our genuine selves. Today's guest is

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Speaker 1: a person that I've known for a long time, and

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Speaker 1: he's a person that represents all three of those ideals

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Speaker 1: to his core and being able to have bared witness

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Speaker 1: to his development not only as an elite athlete in college,

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Speaker 1: but to an elite warrior at a Tier one unit

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Speaker 1: in the in the Sealed Community, but now as one

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Speaker 1: of the top strength and conditioning consultants and trainers on

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Speaker 1: I'm so proud and privileged to wealth welcome Jeff Nichols

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Speaker 2: Jeff, how are you, brother?

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Speaker 3: I'm good. It's a I try to get used to

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Speaker 3: people like saying those things about me, but coming from you,

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Speaker 3: I know it's genuine. It's really appreciated. Like we have.

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Speaker 3: We've come a long ways, and I think the last

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Speaker 3: time I tooke to you, to talk to you, we

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Speaker 3: were crying before and you already got me going. But

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Speaker 3: I just you know, I think that the thing for

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Speaker 3: me is I never understood relationships and I never understood

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Speaker 3: the value of them. And I figured if if christ

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Speaker 3: you know, if being a teacher is good enough for him,

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Speaker 3: I suppose it's good enough for me as well. So

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that so much.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome, you know.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the a good place to start

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Speaker 1: I think we have so many relationships that whether we

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, post life serving and specifically like

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Speaker 2: Now, how have you What are.

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Speaker 1: The things that you've really seen within yourself through those

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that on that kind of in that

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Speaker 3: in that sort of Christian world, I became a soldier.

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Speaker 3: And I think that the more you get involved or

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Speaker 3: think that for me, I'm very much an all in

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Speaker 3: But I look at it from a different lens, and

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Speaker 3: Like that really is. And I think that that belief

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Speaker 3: capacity for violence is as high as anyone, but I

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Speaker 3: have now, and as a friend of mine, that that's

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Speaker 3: counterintuitive to the violence that I was so accustomed to

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Speaker 3: I kind of where my mindset's at. That's kind of

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Speaker 2: I love that, you know, because I think that.

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Speaker 1: Understanding for people who want to try and exist in

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Speaker 1: All right, Jeff, So what I want to know about

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Speaker 3: That came from not omnipotence, And it didn't come from

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Speaker 3: I've seen its spirits that felt it beyond those aren't

432
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Speaker 3: even words that can compare, right, And you go, I'm

433
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 3: on this path, this process, not not because I'm suffering,

434
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 3: but because the being that created all of this beautiful everything,

435
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 3: this loves me, truly loves me and loves and and

436
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,719
Speaker 3: that's the that's the point. The point of all of

437
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: this is not to be a Navy Seal, be a

438
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 3: division and baseball player, all these things that I thought

439
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 3: that that was the thing, and now it's like, yes,

440
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 3: I'm a coach, I'm a teacher. I have we have

441
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 3: a lot of great opportunities and students. But my process

442
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 3: in life now is we will meet people in different

443
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 3: stages of awareness and awakening, and it's my job to

444
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 3: greet them at those points differently than my wife, because

445
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 3: she's she's she's the m path, she's the healer, she

446
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 3: is she teaches the meditation, she teaches the thing. But

447
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 3: I have to meet them in a place because they

448
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 3: all come to see me the Navy seal, the tough

449
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 3: of whatever it is. We always laugh because they always

450
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 3: leave with her information and because it's like I see

451
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 3: people like I know right where you're at, man, because

452
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 3: I was there, and that fire is hot and and

453
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 3: you're gonna get exactly what you're looking for. But on

454
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 3: the back end, the generations before us, the Vietnam, the

455
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 3: so on and so on and the so on, many

456
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 3: of us weren't lucky to have that grace to fall

457
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 3: into it. When we go through the fire and my

458
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: wife is they like the fire extinguisher of the soul

459
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 3: and they come to see the fire, but they don't

460
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 3: need any more fire. They need somebody to make sense

461
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 3: of it. And I am just have enough sort of

462
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 3: experience or grace if you'll call that, to go, well,

463
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: here's my limitation of education on that field, Like you've

464
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: got to go see my wife. And it's it's true,

465
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 3: truly divine, and it's it's undeniable, and it's it's it's infinite,

466
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 3: and that's the thing that like I get to be

467
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 3: in the front seat of is is God. I get

468
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: to see God in all of these people. And it's

469
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 3: not a joke. It's not figurative like I see it,

470
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 3: and and it's and that's why I'm here, not here

471
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 3: to and I say, I'm here to give you a

472
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 3: Barbelle back squad properly. But that's that's just another method

473
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 3: of suffering, that's all it is. And it's I got

474
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 3: to dance with the devil, literally got to dance with

475
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: bail and Satan and the underwheld. I got to I

476
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 3: was fucking ringleader, man. And to now realize that there

477
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 3: is a completely other side of that that is is

478
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 3: so much stronger. And that's what I get to do now.

479
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Speaker 1: For me, that that's the coolest aspect of your evolution

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481
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Speaker 1: the process. And it's not just that, like you said,

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Speaker 1: proper deadlift for squad. I mean, it's so much more

485
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486
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Speaker 1: know is how you encapsulate both the tactical information as

487
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: well as the metaphysical and spiritual information in your coaching.

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Speaker 2: All right, But.

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Speaker 1: to dig into your coaching a little bit more and

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Speaker 1: understand how you incorporate all these things. So, how do

517
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: you encapsulate you know, the I don't know, for lack

518
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Speaker 1: the metaphysical, the theological, the soulful inflection, the development of

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Speaker 1: that peaceful content. How do you and your wife encapsulate

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Speaker 1: that so that people can experience that in you know,

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Speaker 1: the amount of time they can come and be with you, guys.

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Speaker 3: I I make sure my goal for all of these

524
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 3: individuals that we train is to make sure that I'm

525
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: teaching coaching sharing not from a standpoint of if I

526
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 3: fail this way, do it this way so you don't

527
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 3: fail like me. Like that's there's only so many people

528
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 3: that are just like me in that way, which really

529
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 3: the real not difficult, but like the measure of patience

530
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 3: that's necessary to like get to know them, like really

531
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: see if we can draw out what makes them tick.

532
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: And that's where the that's where my wife comes in like,

533
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 3: that's not like we not even try to draw. It's

534
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 3: not like this pragmatic like let's sit around and talk

535
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 3: about our feelings, which is which is fine, Like that's

536
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: that's great, especially if you know somebody. But that's that's

537
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: like people are really guarded and should be and necessarily

538
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: like makes sense why they aren't super open because you

539
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: and I both know that the demographic a special operator

540
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 3: by and large isn't somebody that's uh, super authentic. We're

541
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: all trying to be this thing right, Like there's a

542
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 3: few that will meet along my way. Like the most

543
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: authentic seal I've ever met is Dan Corbett. Like he

544
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,479
Speaker 3: wasn't like ever trying to be somebody like it was

545
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: it was. It was wild to see someone that free

546
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: and way the most violent one, most violent amazing humans

547
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 3: I've ever been around. Like if I had to go

548
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: to war, that's the dude I'm picking right, And it's like,

549
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 3: you don't know how there's another guy in my butt's

550
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 3: class that I always looked at like real odd like

551
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: and he wasn't questioning authority, he was just contemplating why

552
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: why are we doing it this way? And it drove

553
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 3: me fucking nuts because I was so objective. Do what

554
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: you're say, shut up and go. So what does that

555
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: have to do with what we do? There is I

556
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 3: I really enjoy to a degree And this is where

557
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: my wife really helps me, because I'm just I don't

558
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: have as much patience in that that world. But like

559
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 3: when people come to us and train with us for

560
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: six weeks, two days a week, whatever it might be,

561
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: we know, I know, and you know my wife knows too,

562
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 3: that there's a real sincerity. There's a seriousness to going

563
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 3: to do that job, a sincerity and like some guys

564
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 3: you're like certain about and we've been right, one hundred

565
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 3: percent of guy's going to go like that dude's got it,

566
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,959
Speaker 3: like you just know, like it's the thing, right, there's

567
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: a real sense about that person. They crush it every time.

568
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 3: And there's a couple the majority of them, eighty percent

569
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 3: are trying to figure out, like their whole family thinks

570
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: they're crazy. Other friends think they're crazy, like what are

571
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 3: you doing? Why would you ever want to do this?

572
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 3: The world's after blah blah blah blah. There's a there's

573
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 3: a calling, and so they're still trying to like fulfill

574
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 3: this calling while they've had been been in steep judgment

575
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: against them, and like you said, the perception of the

576
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: people that are close to them going, you're crazy, And

577
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 3: so they're trying to figure that out, like where do

578
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 3: we fit into that? Where does this crazy navy seal in,

579
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: this really beautiful, amazing woman, how do they fit into

580
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: their perception and judgment with me? And once they get

581
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: that figured out, realize they're like holy shit, like they

582
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: they're just actually trying to be truthful, like really truthful,

583
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 3: not from a standpoint of fear. There's no fear mongering.

584
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: I don't I don't need to tell stories about how

585
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 3: dangerous it's going to be, like like it just or whatever, right,

586
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: Like I don't need doesn't need to be storytelling. And

587
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 3: so when they find out really quickly that I'm not

588
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 3: there to fucking tell stories or be their friend, and

589
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 3: I'm there to be honest, like completely fucking honest about

590
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 3: my problems, my shortcomings, and they may have nothing to

591
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 3: do with them, but each one of those guys, I'm

592
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: telling you when to be Like by week three, we're

593
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: sitting around on meditation and like every one of those

594
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: guys is in fucking tears because most of these guys

595
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: came from a place, were somewhere somewhere man like, just

596
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 3: like me, didn't feel like I was enough. And for

597
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 3: all these reasons, whatever they're good, they just are. That's society.

598
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 3: It's all blah, what are the stuff? But like, that's

599
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 3: that's that's the human condition. That's so cool. And instead

600
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: of us placing judgment upon them and do it my

601
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 3: way or else, or do it my way, you should

602
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: pray like me, you should do they no like they

603
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: can get a look around and all these guys were

604
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: sitting in a circle and are like you realize that,

605
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 3: like every fucking one of you are made perfectly in

606
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 3: the likeness of our creator. Like you, you're just are

607
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 3: like and for some reason, we all at some point

608
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 3: have felt like we just didn't fit in. But now

609
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 3: look around you, man like, you are surrounded by people

610
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 3: that will just go fucking all in. Why because they know,

611
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 3: not because it's a pragmatic definition, but they know just

612
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 3: like do you love your mother? Do you love God?

613
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 3: Do you love yes? And you can't define that and

614
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 3: you can't box it in and you can't put in

615
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 3: a book, and you can't put it in a podcast,

616
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: but you can surround people and you can make it

617
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 3: that energy is undeniable and infinite, and that's what we do.

618
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: It just you just people are so concerned with pleasing

619
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 3: other people before they then so themselves. And like, man,

620
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 3: like these men that show up, these young men that

621
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 3: show up, Man, that gives me so much hope because fuck, dude,

622
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: like we all know the world's fucking burning in some

623
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: way or another, and it just makes you just want

624
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 3: to be mad. And you're just like these guys traveled

625
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 3: all over the world. We have people come from Australia, Like,

626
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 3: we have people come from all over the world to

627
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 3: go do this thing that they're they're compelled to do.

628
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 3: Like if it ain't if it ain't divine, man, nothing

629
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 3: is like I don't there is nothing that brings me

630
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: closer to God than sitting around a circle of men

631
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 3: and going, this is it, man, this is this is

632
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 3: the other angels sitting here, man, Like, fucking real angels

633
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 3: sitting here. That's power, man, And that is power you

634
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 3: can't build. That is given, that is God given, and

635
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 3: that's that's it's There is nothing in my life more

636
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: beautiful than seeing that it's it's it's just God, man,

637
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 3: just God, It's just God.

638
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: It's interesting. You know.

639
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: I as I went back and I'm just you know,

640
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: scrolling through the stuff that you put out on on

641
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: your Instagram page and and YouTube and and you know,

642
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: I I just you know, you see, you know, an

643
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: expert in in your field. You see the competency and

644
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: your descriptions and your instruction and your tutelage and you know.

645
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: But then on the other side, you know, you did

646
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: a recent one about the book, the Russian book about training,

647
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: and you know, there's a heartfelt message behind like this

648
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: is real, Like this is real stuff that is in

649
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: this book that you should ingest, and you know, and

650
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: then you do these other aspects of of you know,

651
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: what you're trying to accomplish from that spiritual level too,

652
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: And and I see like this breadth of of of

653
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: information that's just growing and growing. Do you feel like

654
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: finally now you you are.

655
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 2: Able to what is it?

656
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: It's almost overlay all those different planes of wisdom and

657
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 1: and and and kind of get that symbiosis to take

658
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: place where they fuse through the actions or deeds of

659
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: your students.

660
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 3: With these guys I'm talking about there's such a sincerity

661
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 3: behind them, And there's such a sincerity behind men and

662
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: women that care firearms and do these just rescue people,

663
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 3: Like there's a there is nothing behind that that's not

664
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 3: truthful when you are actually digging into it. And so

665
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 3: those men and women are always looking for not an

666
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: advantage of yes it's an advantage, but they're just they're

667
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 3: tired of being bullshitted. And whether you're talking about faith,

668
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: your spirituality, you're talking about the biology, you're talking about

669
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 3: anything that we teach, it all comes from the same place.

670
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 3: It's all truthful because we don't need to make up,

671
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 3: we don't need to pair it, and we don't need

672
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 3: to kind of assume that the things that we've done

673
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 3: are unique to us, like they're just handed down information

674
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 3: and knowledge and wisdom and through experience. And like I

675
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 3: think that that's that's the thing, is that just like

676
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 3: me and just like you, why did we join the teams?

677
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: Like why do we do? Why do we authentically go

678
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 3: and do the thing and succeed? Like there was a

679
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: real there's a truth to that, Like it's we all

680
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: know guys that didn't get out what they wanted to

681
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: get out of it. Guys that this that. But but

682
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 3: even with our mistakes, right, even the things that like

683
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 3: the thing that like broke you, the thing, the team stuff,

684
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 3: it's like insane with me. It's like there's a real

685
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 3: truth to that. It actually happened. It's honest and and

686
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 3: and in the same way that's like, listen, like, what

687
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: are the one of the first things that christ said about, hey,

688
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: heal is sick? This was like, don't tell anyone? What

689
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 3: was the first thing they did telled everyone? And so

690
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: it's like that's what I'm saying, is like they're the

691
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 3: same thing, David. If I'm teaching somebody a Barbelle back squad,

692
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:55,479
Speaker 3: that is my gateway to truth. It's if they're coming

693
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 3: for me to lift weights with me and learn and

694
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 3: all these things they've got trouble with, and I teach

695
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: them authentic and I'm like, this is this is all

696
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 3: within you and you can do it. What's the difference

697
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 3: of that between like, man, if I'm going to struggle,

698
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 3: I'm going a hard time with the relationships and I

699
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 3: don't try to fix it, certainly, maybe I can listen

700
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: to it, but I also just like authentically could be

701
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 3: like I understand I really do. I'm not trying to

702
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 3: say that. What you're feeling is like I have a

703
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: total grasp on it, and they're we're separate. No no, no,

704
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 3: no no, Like I can meet a person where they're

705
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: at acts truthfully, like I don't have to fix it.

706
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: But when I'm coming authentically, there's trust, there's rapport, there's relationship,

707
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 3: and so whether i'm it's like if I have given

708
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 3: them some really good information that's led to them improving

709
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: their movement patterns authentically and now they own it, that

710
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 3: person is very likely then to go, well, this person

711
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 3: talks about his faith and how strong it is and

712
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 3: how it's changed of the years, Like maybe that person

713
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 3: has something to offer me too, because I kind of

714
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 3: struggle with those things too. It's it's it and it's

715
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 3: and then that's really where my wife really comes into

716
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: is because it's not just about me, and it's very

717
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 3: easy for a husband and a wife to go we're

718
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 3: on the same line, we're doing the same stuff, and

719
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 3: we're doing like man like, it's not that my wife

720
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: finishes my sentences for me. Here's the true fact. Here's

721
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 3: something that will blow your mind away a little bit.

722
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:32,959
Speaker 3: So we got married on Marcus's ranch right, and and

723
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 3: and so I went and did my first psychedelic journey

724
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 3: in Mexico. I didn't tell anyone except for my wife

725
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 3: and my mom, no one else, nobody else. And so

726
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 3: I'm driving across, coming across the border, and my phone

727
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 3: rings and Marcus is there, and I'm like, what's up, man,

728
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 3: He's like, welcome home. I'm like, I just know, man,

729
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 3: I could just know this, that and the other. So

730
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 3: from that standpoint on, I get home. I get home,

731
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: and more than ten times my wife would go like,

732
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 3: you need to call so and so. Call Marcus. He's

733
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 3: gonna call you. I mean within minutes, man, a call,

734
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 3: or or we'd be in our backyard. We had a

735
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: bunch of bald eagles in our backyard in Virginia Beach.

736
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 3: And almost every single time for the first year or

737
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 3: two after that, anytime I'd see a bald eagle, Marcus

738
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: would call or someone like you would call like no kidding,

739
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: like when that was the thing when you called. And

740
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 3: that last time my wife called it, she's like, you

741
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 3: need to check on so and so, you need to

742
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: do this, and and it's like she genuinely has this

743
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 3: sort of intuition that it was always a question by me.

744
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 3: I'd always pushed it down and pushed it down, you know,

745
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 3: like don't and it's there's a real and I'm not

746
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 3: going to get into. My wife's childhood is very, very

747
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 3: different than mine. And through that forging, we'll say, even

748
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: like they send the yours, there's certain behaviors and thoughts

749
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 3: and processes that really come to light. And when somebody

750
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: comes in, I can see the guys that were like

751
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 3: me in a way, right, and I can kind of

752
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: pick them out, and it's pretty obvious, but there's a

753
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 3: whole other side to that emotion. And she's able to,

754
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 3: I mean to like a creepy well at first, she's

755
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 3: able to like clearly define what they're experiencing and why

756
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 3: not from a standpoint of judgment. And so when you

757
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: start adding those two things up my ability to listen

758
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 3: to my intuition from a standpoint of non judgment of

759
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 3: people that I care for, and you add my wife

760
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: that same mix from a different set of eyes, from

761
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: a different set of compassion, from a different set of

762
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 3: a My wife is a fighter man, and she is

763
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 3: a tough, tough, tough human. She is one of the

764
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: most gentle beings I've ever been around, Like my mom,

765
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 3: like really like it's like my mom and her like symbiotic.

766
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 3: But my dad was so objectively amazing. It drove me

767
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 3: nuts as a child. He was so pragmatic and so

768
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: put together and so composed. That's my wife is my

769
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 3: Dad's a basically behavior being Like it's the same and

770
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 3: like I'm like, holy crap, Like the thing that drove

771
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 3: me nuts in the past, now I just adore. And

772
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: so you put that in a room with people that

773
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 3: are authentically raw like and that you let them loose,

774
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 3: with people like us that will just let them be themselves.

775
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: That's it's it's remarkable to see so many good humans

776
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 3: come together and build relationships and like you launched them

777
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 3: in the military, it's such a high success rate. We know,

778
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 3: I know, we don't see it just yet, but the

779
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 3: seeds that have been planted with these extremely extremely capable,

780
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 3: violent men, but they have this capacity and how to go,

781
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 3: hey man, I can put this down. We didn't I

782
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 3: didn't have that. I mean I tried it desperately to

783
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: seek it in prayer and the pews of a Catholic

784
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 3: church and things like that, and it had its value,

785
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 3: but it couldn't take that off.

786
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: Man.

787
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't know how to relinquish that violence

788
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 3: without feeling that I was giving something up that made me,

789
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 3: you know, like, hey, I'm gonna give up this violence.

790
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go watch this movie. But I just know

791
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 3: that's weakness. I can't do that. And so to get

792
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 3: these people to understand that, like you can be extraordinarily

793
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 3: violent and like love on your great dame and your

794
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 3: kitten and like read comic books and do these things.

795
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 3: Still they're like, wait a minute, Like I thought you

796
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 3: were supposed to be this really fucking angry veteran that

797
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 3: just ah, yeah, I was good at that, man, but

798
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 3: it had its limits. Man, my hair falling out, teeth

799
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 3: getting rotten, like just health deteriorating. And it's like, all

800
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 3: that being said, it's weird that now, at forty seven,

801
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 3: after all those life experiences, it feels like I'm actually

802
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 3: a decent example as a human being, That's what. And

803
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: I don't I didn't have that, but I have it

804
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 3: now because I have my Yin and Yang, my wife,

805
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: she is like the complete balance of me, you know,

806
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 3: and all all some admittedly there it hasn't Mill Roads.

807
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: That's the thing is we've COVID in a weird way,

808
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 3: like we we If it weren't for COVID, we probably

809
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 3: wouldn't have survived as a relationship. Like we couldn't separate

810
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 3: because of the situations and things. And it was virutal.

811
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 3: It was never violent and like against each other. But

812
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 3: it just it forced me, not her. She had to

813
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 3: work to a bit, man it. I had to learn

814
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 3: how to communicate because I cared and I wasn't a

815
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 3: like I didn't like I had this real love and

816
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: compassion for somebody. And then that that like to take

817
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: the two of us and put them in front of

818
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 3: these people, that's it, Like it's not really about me.

819
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: It's it's it's wildly not about me anymore. And I

820
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 3: love that because it's not the Jeff Show anymore. And

821
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 3: I God, that was awful, Like I was just a

822
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 3: ego driven, fucked hard man. Like what a shitty person

823
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 3: I was behaving like and I and I'm so good

824
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 3: to not be that anymore. It's just so free.

825
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 2: I love that you express it like that.

826
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 1: Man, I you know, and I I you know again,

827
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: I think that's what people are trying to find in themselves.

828
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 2: Right, they're trying to find that freedom.

829
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: Right from from those behavioral patterns, from those emotional shortfalls,

830
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: and from that spiritual whatever, that devoid of spirituality. They

831
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: they they that's consuming them. They're they're looking for that

832
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: kind of freedom. And I just think it's it's really

833
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: special that you and your wife are out there and

834
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: and offer that that kind of opportunity for people, you know,

835
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: whether it's young men wanting to go into service, or

836
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 1: it's just people wanting to get healthy. And I think,

837
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, that's the conduit for that truth in us

838
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: is through our physicality, through our emotional health, through our

839
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 1: spiritual health.

840
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 2: You know, what is it?

841
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 3: What is it?

842
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: Do you think that you guys, if people are interested

843
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: and they want to, you know, they want to understand

844
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: what they're going to receive from you, how would you

845
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: describe the experience that they're going to have if they

846
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: come to your farm, or or even if you you

847
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: coach online or whatever it might be. What? What is?

848
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: What is the truth that you're going to help them

849
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: discover in themselves?

850
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the big thing is I'm actually I'm

851
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 3: actually I'm really concerned about I'm just saying, like I

852
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 3: really want to know what what's what's what? What are they?

853
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 3: What do they want? Like what what do you want?

854
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 3: Because a lot of them are like tactical population, military, police,

855
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 3: fire or whatever it might be. Said my my wife

856
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 3: just had a zoom call and did a meditation with

857
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 3: a surgeon from Texas because just person that experienced trauma

858
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 3: and a cancer ward and just surgery. And then like

859
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 3: how do I put that down? Like I do believe

860
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 3: that religion has a real good place because it's it's

861
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 3: it's a real good foundational thing, but some people kind

862
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 3: of get lost in the pragmatism of it.

863
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 4: It's a little bit like what but but like I

864
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 4: just got to do this ritualistic thing and it may

865
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 4: not it may not speak to somebody. And that's and

866
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 4: that's that's not a slight towards religion. It's just sometimes

867
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 4: someone's seeking the heart.

868
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 3: And I think that when people come to us, because

869
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 3: I have experience in that space, but I don't presume

870
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 3: to think that I have all the answers based on

871
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 3: my experience. And so when we talk to them, we

872
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 3: see them and coaching calls or in person, what we're

873
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 3: trying to do is bring out of them, like where

874
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 3: are you at? What what got you here? Like where

875
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 3: what are you really having trouble with? Like and if

876
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 3: you're not honest, and that's too bad. But like like

877
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 3: we share our own personal stories to say, hey, I'm

878
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 3: not afraid to be to be exposed because it's not

879
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 3: like I don't care what you think. It's like no, no,

880
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 3: like these these positions of me sharing with you are

881
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 3: in all of branch for you understand that, like I'm

882
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 3: not I'm not trying to compete with you with what

883
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 3: your suffering is or the trouble. I'm not trying to

884
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 3: compete with you. I'm just trying to share with you

885
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 3: that I just might understand what suffering is or having

886
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 3: trouble with this. It's like, you know, like we've had

887
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 3: a couple of guys that grew up in a very

888
00:52:54,160 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 3: very very traditional Mormon polygamous life. We've had three, and

889
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 3: all three of them that we've hit experienced have really

890
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:11,479
Speaker 3: had a massive emotional blowback from the things they've seen,

891
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 3: things they don't agree with why they left the church.

892
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 3: And this is not like it's it's like that in

893
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 3: all the time. It's like we see in catholosity. So

894
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 3: just as an example, because I I don't care what

895
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 3: your faith is. I just care that you love God

896
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 3: and so whatever that path is, that's fine. But we

897
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 3: but what But I can't. I can never. I've never

898
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 3: experienced that in the Mormon Church. I've only experienced really

899
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 3: good friends that are Mormon, and they don't like you know,

900
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 3: So I'm not trying to compete with my suffering and theirs.

901
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 3: But for us to say, hey, we can meet you

902
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 3: and recognize that, hey, you're struggling and it's okay, because

903
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 3: that's pretty that's a pretty pretty severe experience and it's

904
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 3: going to take you some time to work through that.

905
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 3: So my side is like, let's work through that with

906
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: good physical suffering, good physical effort. Let's let's get that aligned.

907
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 3: And that falls into what are you eating, how are

908
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 3: you sleeping, what supplements are using? Like, let's let's sort

909
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: out this amazing one. The one gift, the one physical

910
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 3: gift we get on this birth is this Ferrari or Lamborghini.

911
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 3: That's what I get to deal with, and that's my conduit.

912
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 3: I don't have. I don't have the intuitive grace that

913
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 3: my wife does in the spiritual side. So we team up,

914
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 3: and if it's not me, they think, oh god, I can.

915
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 3: I'll fix your back squat all day if you give

916
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 3: a shit, if you really care and you want to

917
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 3: do this and do these, and guy, that's I got

918
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 3: the easy job, Dave, I got the real super easy job.

919
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 3: But then it's like, hey, have you ever thought about

920
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 3: these things? It's off my plate. They look at me,

921
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm not the teacher. I'm this. I

922
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 3: get to be the student when my wife is teaching

923
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 3: every time, you know, And so like, I think that

924
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 3: that's what they actually get. They get. They get two

925
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 3: people that don't pretend to be something they're not. They're

926
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 3: highly skilled in the things that we do. But that's

927
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 3: not because we're trying to mirror our own excuses or

928
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 3: mirror our own fault and mirror own chinks and armor.

929
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 3: We're just saying, hey, this human experience is fucking hard, man,

930
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 3: whether it's be a Navy seal or it's the things

931
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 3: you do after when you're not wearing the Navy seal hat.

932
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 3: Life is really can be hard. But you know what,

933
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 3: when you get a handle on it and you're authentic

934
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 3: God almighty. It's good.

935
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: Amen to that. Brother.

936
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on with me and

937
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: just sharing the deepest of your thoughts. And I just

938
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 1: love listening to you get me all excited and fired

939
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: up about my own truth in my life and getting

940
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: healthy myself on a regular basis. And I just I

941
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: love you to death, brother, And I cannot wait to

942
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: see and get to hug your wife in person and

943
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: thank her for what she's done for my friend. And

944
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: I just you're such a powerful person and you're doing

945
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 1: such good for people.

946
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 2: I just I just really appreciate you, man. Thank you.

947
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the feeling is mutual. You never know,

948
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: like you never know where people is going to cross

949
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 3: because I know you are part of my SQT staff, right,

950
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 3: and like there isn't a lot of recollection of that

951
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 3: initiation of a friendship, right, and then fast forward to

952
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 3: wherever we get and you go there are just certain

953
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 3: people in your life that like matter, like really matter,

954
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 3: and you're one of them. And that's never like that's

955
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 3: you know, it's gonna be fucking really rad. Is beyond

956
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 3: this experience, you and I can go do it. The

957
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 3: travel the Cosmor Center fucking service sur surfboard or whatever

958
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 3: whatever we gonna do. Man, I don't care what is,

959
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 3: but infinitely get enjoy this space of and compassion right

960
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 3: And it's like I don't know what it holds beyond this, man,

961
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 3: but like we get snapshots of real truth and love

962
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 3: in this, in this human experience. And if there's a

963
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 3: real abundance beyond this, and I know that there is, Man,

964
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 3: it isn't alone. It's with people like you forever. And

965
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 3: so that's what you know. It's like, I that's a

966
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 3: hard part of like strong on my spirituality. I don't

967
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 3: want to check out too early. And that's that's so

968
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 3: that's a real thing that you guys can get get

969
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 3: glommed on. But uh, in the future, it's this isn't

970
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 3: a this isn't a plug. But I just want to

971
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 3: You're gonna get an invitation here probably in the spring.

972
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 3: My wife and I want to do what's basically called

973
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 3: it like a farmstrong people that are really really really

974
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 3: care about invite them out here and you share like

975
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 3: it's the best food, the best training, the best spiritual

976
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 3: like and it's just you bring in you. We we

977
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 3: make our owlune returgent, make our own dedodorant. We do

978
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 3: all this like so like let's we have a raw

979
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 3: dairy farm just up the street, and it's like, let's

980
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 3: bring in like the best of the best, each of us.

981
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 3: You bring in your just and you just share your

982
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 3: space in this space of grace and like that's it.

983
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 3: Like that's community and fellowship, man, And like we have

984
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 3: weights and food and so everyone brings their own peace

985
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 3: and so be looking for that because it's like that

986
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 3: matters to me. Community matters to me, and you are

987
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 3: very much in my inner circle of community.

988
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: Thank you, man, I appreciate that. Jeff, Jeff, where can

989
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: people find your programs? Pay attention?

990
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 3: And what are they?

991
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: You just gave a little drop for the farmstrong in

992
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: the spring, But where else can people engage with you

993
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: and your wife and really pull out this truth that

994
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: people are so desperately looking for right now?

995
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess you know. Instagram is kind of my

996
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 3: sort of bulletin board of information. It's Jeff CSCs. We

997
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 3: have a YouTube channel as well, that's kind of in

998
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 3: our website is Performance first us dot com. And kind

999
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 3: of how it works is like we get only so

1000
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 3: many people who can train in person, so basically all

1001
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 3: of our written programs or downloaded programs on our website,

1002
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 3: but every single exercise that's in that program there's a

1003
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 3: direct demonstration on our YouTube channel. So it's kind of

1004
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 3: that's the interface. You know, we do in person training

1005
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 3: and things like that. But like Instagram and social media

1006
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 3: is kind of our our launching point and you know,

1007
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 3: maybe it'll evolve from there, but you know, we're just

1008
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 3: trying to reach out to many people as we can.

1009
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 3: And that's right now, that's our avenue. And my wife

1010
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 3: also it's she has her Instagram too and and things

1011
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 3: like that. But like it's you know, it's if you're

1012
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 3: coming to performance first, you're sending email, You're you're talking

1013
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 3: to my wife. She's my ghostwriter. She's put more people

1014
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 3: through Buds than I and it basically other than myself

1015
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 3: and Stu Smith. So if you've sent an email to

1016
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 3: my our website in the last seven years, she's answered

1017
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 3: it all. Like it's truly like my wife's background too.

1018
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 3: She's a drink conditioning co. She's been doing it for

1019
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 3: as long as I have. She's had amazing mentors in

1020
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 3: college and things like that, so she is you know,

1021
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 3: she is the most truly fit female I've ever been around,

1022
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 3: like a forty three year old woman to two back surgeries,

1023
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 3: two shorder surgeries can knock out twelve thirteen fourteen pull

1024
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 3: ups at will, just like all right, well, let's do

1025
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 3: that like so that she's easy to reach. But don't

1026
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 3: don't don't uh, don't underestimate her, her soul because it's

1027
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 3: it's a it's something.

1028
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 2: It is something, all right, brother, thank you so much.

1029
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: I love you, man, God bless you and your wife

1030
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: and everything you guys are doing.

1031
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 3: Appreciate day. I love you too, man,