1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: R and Beats Money. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: We are. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 3: Thank Valati. We are the authority on all R and 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 3: B ladies and gentlemen. 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: My name is Tank Ja. 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 3: Valentine, and this, yeah, is the R and B Money 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 3: podcast on the authority on all things R and B. 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: It just got legendary. 9 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 4: What I wore his Beatle shirt for a reason. It 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 4: just got his Tell me, why is the man we 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 4: have here tonight? 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: Huh? He beat the Beatles and knocked off the Beatles. 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: So that's why I wore this shirt because I knew 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: my partner was coming knocked off the Beatles. Yeah we 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: know this, Nick. 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: Well with this Well grew up with this, Nick yay, 17 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: one of the callsts, one of the greatest of all times, 18 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 3: saying your full name, Brian Mico. 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, So we the fuck up. We've been 20 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: talking about this for a minute. I'm so glad matter 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: we are in the building. 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: We're here. 23 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: We brother, we cannot be the authority unless you come. 24 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: Here, Tank man. I appreciate you, Jake, my people's man. 25 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: We we go about to see how far back we 26 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 2: go for real real, This is this is real family, tad, 27 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: this is royal fam talk right here. Listen back, you 28 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: know back in the noontime buildings. It was nine five seven, 29 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: nine five seven West may Hada Bad on the railroad track. 30 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 5: Yes, when we was all right behind the building, he 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 5: was just trying hold on, let the train pass and 32 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 5: we get we get the next vocals for absolutely, we 33 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 5: was all just trying. 34 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: Just coming up, kids, trying to come up, man of it. 35 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: It was me, you, Donny Scans, the Twins, Eric Robertson, 36 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: John Tay. It was just it was a it was 37 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: a house full Jazzy Faye, Teddy, Bishop Shade ub Dent 38 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: were just trying. Man were just throwing throwing the ship 39 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 2: at the wall man hoping someone mills stick. 40 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: Every day, every day. 41 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 4: I mean it worked everybody you just named. Yeah, it's 42 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 4: a legendary in this and you didn't even go to 43 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 4: the executive side. 44 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: I was just about just musicians. Yeah, and we didn't 45 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 2: get it to still doing it. Yeah. Yeah, everybody though, 46 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: which is crazy. Everybody's everybody's yellant, everybody. If we could 47 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: have seen the future, man like I'm gonna get I 48 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: tell Chris too, if we at presidence of mind of 49 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: what was happening, we would have we would have stuck together. 50 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely y'all were y'all were monstrous, we would have 51 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: stuck together like I mean, some of we stuck together 52 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 2: in fascets like Jazzy and Nooney did their things and 53 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: John t people kind of separated, did their own thing. 54 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 2: But I think that if we had known for real, 55 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: for real, it was on the other side of all 56 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: of this. 57 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, because part of your blueprint 58 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 4: too is the fabric and the idea of the underdogs 59 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 4: for us before way before the dogs, you. 60 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: Know, and to and where they got the concept from. 61 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: Obviously it was Puff hit Man. That's really where they 62 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 2: got the concept from. You know what I mean, you 63 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: no time got the concept. You know, they had JW 64 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: and Dent and Jada mc denwell were co managed by Puff, 65 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: and they basically went up there and saw how Puff 66 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: was running his ship and was like, oh, we're gonna 67 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: kind of duplicate that. And then they got Teddy and 68 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: they got Jazzy k fam and you know, uh, Chris's 69 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: brother Kevin Hicks who played guitar, and all the records 70 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: records and then and then I just I came in 71 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: the mix in the middle of all that. You know, 72 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: John Tate was a part of it work and with 73 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: Teddy Bishop, the Twins were working with dub It was 74 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: just an interesting one. Twelve was coming down there at 75 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: the time, I mean, Duran was working down there. It 76 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: was just a really interesting time in the late nineties 77 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: with that company. You know, just y'all were really like 78 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: y'all were really an artist away, one artist away, artists 79 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: and what's crazy is right? All executives, we say executives. Okay, 80 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: we talked about the partners, but we talk about the 81 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: you know, God bless Shaki Stewart, talk about Jahi Johnson, 82 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: we talk about Jarell Allen. We're talking about the people 83 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: who were, you know, instrumental in that situation. Ryan Glover, 84 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 2: who was a partner who now owns Greenway Bank, who 85 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: was popping. 86 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: You know. 87 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: It's just I wish that, you know, I wish that 88 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: we had the presence of mind at that time, and 89 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: of course you never know what on other side. Just 90 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: kind of just go, what a starting ground? What a 91 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 2: what a fucking starting ground? 92 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: Bro? 93 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: You know, you have people like you know, Block was 94 00:04:54,360 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 2: coming down, freaking t I was coming and you know it. 95 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 4: It was just the interesting Also did many genres of music. 96 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 4: That was the other thing. That's what the underdogs. It 97 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 4: was very much so R and B and pop. Yeah, 98 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 4: and that's really what it was. Everybody from Rick like 99 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 4: your daddy. 100 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was just then ill combination of people 101 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: Jim Crow and then you know, I mean, it's just 102 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: it was just then ill you know Jim Crows where 103 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 2: we get Polo to don Yeah. 104 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I was a one stop shot. 105 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 2: It was just then ill combination of of I mean, 106 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: do you remember when what's my man from hoo the 107 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 2: Blowfishers down there? Darius Darius, Darius was there, There's Rucker 108 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: came you you was there. 109 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: People who were there put up on us too. Early 110 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: underdog days when it was just me, Damon and RV. 111 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: There is for that R and B. Yeah, he was 112 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: doing like R and B Stevie type thing and it 113 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: was crazy because humph umph Wow, your hump's doing like 114 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: TV film ship like he's like he's he's killing it. Yeah, 115 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: so hump. I remember uh uh Daris Rutger had a 116 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: deal with Bud Wiser. 117 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: I heard about that. 118 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 2: And they the fucking eighteen wheeler. But Wiser eighteen will 119 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 2: have pulled up the noontime and Niggas was drinking beer 120 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: for like five months. 121 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: Bro. 122 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 6: It was the crazy I was expecting five days, you 123 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 6: know much beer got that truck pulled eighteen would have 124 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 6: pulled up and he was like, yeah, man, just drop 125 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 6: it off. 126 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 7: I was like, what the fuck is happening? 127 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: Like I never seen I don't drink beer, No Niggas, 128 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 129 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: Yeah can Niggas was drinking. Can I think it? I 130 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: think it's got a long shelf like ship, not like 131 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: my plastic bottles of bright Thanks thanks two years. 132 00:06:55,279 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: Supply sprite expired in six months. Thanks maybe less appreciate 133 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: that to give it away. Bee Cocks. Man, Man, you're 134 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: you're ship. You're one of the greatest. Man. I appreciate you. 135 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: Guys. 136 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: Man, And we gotta we gotta turn back the hands 137 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 3: of time and really establish how you got here, Like 138 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 3: like when does bea Cox happen? When does when does 139 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: somebody say you know this kid is special? When do 140 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: you say to yourself, I found my purpose? Like talk 141 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: take us back to Houston, man, you know it's back. Ultimately, 142 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: I've always wanted to be a producer. I never understood 143 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: what it really meant. But I knew that whatever Quincy 144 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 3: Jones did was important, whatever Teddy Rowdy did was important, 145 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: Whatever Jimmy Jame Terry Lewis did was important. Whatever La 146 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: Bay Face Day was important. And these were the names 147 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 3: I was saying on the back of my favorite albums 148 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: and favor you know, you know, I mean we talk 149 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 3: about credits off. 150 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: I'm a credit reader. I mean, you know, people call 151 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: me a music inside Wipedia. I know things that I 152 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: shouldn't know, right, And it's because I studied these records. 153 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: My mother was an avid record byer. My aunts were 154 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: everybody that yes, my. 155 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 4: Mom, yes, amazing, I want to say hello, amazing. 156 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,679 Speaker 7: So my mom was super just in the music heavy. 157 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: My mom loved music, and I give my love of 158 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: music from her and my my aunts and my uncles, 159 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And they were buy records. 160 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: I'm saying like specific. Every one of my aunts had 161 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: different styles, like different things that they liked. Right. So 162 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: when you're young, right, and you're growing up in a 163 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 2: big family and you spend time with all your different 164 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: family members, you get to get all this experience from 165 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: different things. 166 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: Right. 167 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: So like man and Jack who passed away a few 168 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: years ago, her particular style of music was very eclectic, 169 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: like she would listen to things like Journey, Asia Haull 170 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: of Notes, but then Charla Marri was one of their favorite 171 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 2: groups or when the Fire was in their favorite so 172 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 2: she she had she might have been the most eclectic 173 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: record collector. You know. Like my first time ever hearing 174 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: Donald Fagen's My Life record was because she had it 175 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: and I didn't. 176 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 7: I didn't even know what Donald think it was. 177 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: And I had to find out that he was a 178 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 2: member of Steely Dan and she had Steely Dan records. 179 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: And she was the one telling me all these different things. Yeah, 180 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 2: like the whole the whole other thing. Right, she was 181 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: the one that told me these different things. Right. My 182 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: mom was just really into like super like you know, 183 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: early on, like you know, funk boogie, you know what 184 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: I mean, So uh that translates from you know, just 185 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: part of my funkadelic to h when it translates to boogie, 186 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 2: that goes to Kashif and goes to what Leon Silvers 187 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: was doing and things of that nature. And my mother 188 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: also was really in the fusion, so like Herbie Hancock 189 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: funk that she was, she wasn't really into Herbie's like 190 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: super jazz shit. But it was like when it got 191 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: to Chameleon and when it got to records like Headhunters 192 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 2: and Feet on Film Now and things like that, my 193 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: mom was running to that shit, you know what I'm saying, 194 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 2: and that were really really like I was to my moms. 195 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: I was with her a lot, so a lot of 196 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 2: that music shaped like my mom loved d Train and 197 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: loved things like that in the early eighties. I feel 198 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: like my mom's The most dense era of music for 199 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: my mom was like nineteen I would say nineteen seventy nine, 200 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 2: like nineteen eighty three, right, so you have I was 201 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: exposed to a lot of music during those years, and 202 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: I was very young. I was like, you know, between 203 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: the ages of seventy nine, I might have been one 204 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: going on two. It's from two to like six, there 205 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: was a lot of music that was being a lot 206 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: of information that was being absorbed. 207 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, just because when did you start playing? 208 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 2: I started playing when I was six, So. 209 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: This time you're already hearing it though, Yeah, so. 210 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: I've heard it. But then I went to go live 211 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: with my grand my grandparents, right. My grandparents are from 212 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 2: Bahamas in Miami, I went to my went back to Miami. 213 00:10:58,320 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: I was born in Miami with my mom. My mom 214 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 2: was in the ninety seventy nine, so I was born 215 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 2: in Miami in seventy seven. My mom we used to 216 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: seventy nine. Then I moved back to Miami live with 217 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: my grandparents when I was five or six. Right, and 218 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: my grandparents are you know my grandfather's a Pentecostal minister, 219 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: said then I have all this I have all this information. 220 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: Right. 221 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: Then now I go to church. The secularision was already there, right, 222 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 2: And now I got to go back, and I got 223 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: to go to church because my grandfather's not having it. 224 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, We're not listening to nothing. 225 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's you know, it's it's really shock. Yeah, 226 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 2: a culture shock. It's Mahelia Jackson and Malaya Jackson. It's 227 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: it's you know, I mean, I'm talking about old James Cleve. 228 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the old time. 229 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: But now you go, but now you're getting the root. 230 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I'm not knowing at the time about 231 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: all the things that we do exactly exactly like my grandfather, 232 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 2: he went in with the new My grandfather went back 233 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: and we're like, my grandfather's from Akland Island, the Bahamas 234 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: man that you know he's he was, yeah, you know so, 235 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: and my grandmother is the same. Right, So now I'm 236 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: now I'm in church, and you gotta do something, right, 237 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: So let me tell you what's interesting. Right, there's a 238 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: guy you y'all may know him. He's a he's an 239 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: amazing musician. He's put out a couple of records now 240 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: but used to play with the roots. His name is 241 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: Raymond Angry, right, Ray Angry. Okay, So Raymond Angry is 242 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: one of my guys. Okay, So let me explain something 243 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: to you about Ray, just so you know, yeah, all right, yeah, Ray, 244 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: Ray and I grew up in the same church, in 245 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: the same church atmosphere church got. 246 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 7: A prophecy, right. 247 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: His father was was well respected and was like a 248 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: person who took me in as like a nephew and this, 249 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: that and the third. And Ray was way older than us, 250 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Ray, While I'm in if 251 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: I was like six or seven, Ray might have been 252 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: fifteen or fourteen something that right, and Ray, we y'all 253 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 2: call him Ray. But me and Kendrick, who because of 254 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: Kenrick Dean we call him Sebastian. That's his name, wow, 255 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: because he's Ray Angry junior. So at church his dad's 256 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 2: big Ray, we called him Sebastian, so I know him 257 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: at Sebastian and very angry. It is the first person 258 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 2: that I ever saw that made me want to play piano, 259 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: like for real, Like he was like he was no 260 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: for real. He was one of those people. He was 261 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: like an anomaly, like. 262 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: He was a super snark fourteen though. 263 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: At fourteen organ ridiculous, like he was like he was 264 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: the best already. He was the best already. He's the 265 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: first person I seen move his hips while playing keyboard 266 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: two keyboard at the same time at Rankin Chapel at 267 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 2: Howard University, and he was not saying all the keyboards 268 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: like yeah, he's dancing. 269 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 7: No. 270 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: The way he was raised rais different. Different. When we 271 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 2: were kids, me and Henrick were little, and was just 272 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: always all of him, and he woul always let us 273 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: sit by him, you know, he would, he was him 274 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: and we just, you know what I mean, sit behind 275 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: him and watch him, you know what I mean, And 276 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: that always And it's crazy because I hadn't thought about 277 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: this in a long time. To me, me and my 278 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: mother was talking about this recently, and I hadn't thought 279 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: about it in a while. My almost like, SA, like 280 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: that's where you that's where it started for you. And 281 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: I remember my grandmother put me in panel lessons because 282 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: of him. I did not know we had that income. Yep, 283 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: I've known him, little gang of stuff. I was a 284 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: little guy. I was in high school. He was at 285 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: Howard University killing everything. 286 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: He was shy. All of them was up there like. 287 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that was the era. Yeah, that was the era. 288 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 3: Everybody was up there. And we his kids from high school. 289 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 3: We were the singing kids from high school. They would 290 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 3: come up to Howard University and singing all the church 291 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: functions and all. 292 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: It was like the best group, you know what I'm saying. 293 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 3: We was high school kids, and Raymond Angry was like 294 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: one of our heroes. Every time he got on the keyboards, 295 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: it was him and then another guy named Marlon Saunders 296 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 3: who would get on. And what's that other guy, Gordon 297 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 3: Gordon Chamber of course, of course Gordon Chambers was like 298 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: Jesus to us. 299 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: Of course, Cam and Raymond. 300 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: Angry it was like yeah, when they get on, when 301 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: they get. 302 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: Sign I said this, yea, yes man. It was like 303 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: gods to us, we just watched them in awe and 304 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: just why did you what did you do? 305 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: Like why are your fingers? Is know? 306 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: Raymond was I mean, I mean he was one of 307 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: those people that we just we couldn't wait to be 308 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 2: around Sebastian. It was like, you know, and because we 309 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: spent so much time over their house, you know that 310 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: they said Big Ray really brought us in. But like 311 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: we spent a lot of time because Kendric's father, Kendric's grandfather, 312 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: his grandfather, and my grandfather. They his grandfather was the 313 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: pastor of the church. His grandfather was the pastors of 314 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: My grandfather was one of the associate pastors and like 315 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: you know, been to being a bishop and basically was 316 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: like really involved. They were like best friends and you know, 317 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: just really really an ill connection. And of course Ray's 318 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: dad was like literally so involved with the church and 319 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: they involved all the kids in the church. So these 320 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: are things that you know, when I was in Miami 321 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: living with my grandparents, there was a major like a 322 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: major shift in my life, right and then my mother 323 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: comes and gets me, you know, go back to Houston. 324 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: But I would go to Miami every summer, so you 325 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: go to my vacation Bible school, you go to you 326 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: know what I mean? He did all like literally, so 327 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: I was getting a proper like balance, right cause I 328 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: would come back, I would go to Houston. I would 329 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: go back, come back to Uston with my mom and 330 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: my aunts, and you know, they was outside. You know 331 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You know, my aunties was outside school. 332 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: I was. 333 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 2: I went to the elementary school for two years in Miami, 334 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: but then for the rest of my time it was 335 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 2: in Houston. So when I would come back to when 336 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 2: I would go to Houston for school, my mom and 337 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 2: them outside bro Thursday night, I stay at the club. 338 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: Maybe they was outside. And my mom every week would 339 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: go to the records so it's the record store and 340 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: he used to call sound waves. She go to recorster 341 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: every week get new records. If would get you know, 342 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 2: all the new ship. So she was up on a 343 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: new ship. My aunts all up on a new ship. 344 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: And I was the person that was like in the 345 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: middle of it all, Like that was my interest, Like 346 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 2: none of my cousins were interested in. That was my interest, 347 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: Like what new records you're getting this week? You know 348 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: what I mean. And then at this point, so I 349 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: would say, I mean, it's happening at a very young age. 350 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 2: I remember specifically, this is crazy. I remember specifically. I 351 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: have a really wild memory, and I have to be 352 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: at this point. I couldn't have been I might have 353 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: been six, right, And my mother came home with a 354 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: stack of records. Yo, I'll never forget it. It was 355 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: because She's first album, Prince nineteen ninety nine, Freaking Spiral Gyra, 356 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: Yellowjacket's second album. It was like a bunch of just 357 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 2: different styles of records, right, and this got it like 358 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: eighty three eighty four, and my mom was just were 359 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 2: just going through the records and that was like it's 360 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: like Gap Band five, jamming the record with Party Train 361 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 2: and then listening to these records. I was always entrance 362 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: with how these records were made. And there's a record 363 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 2: on Gap Band five specifically called I'm Ready that's like 364 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 2: this record to this day is like one of the 365 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: most amazing records to me, is like I don't know 366 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: if you guys even notice record, but it's a super 367 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: album company, It's a smash. It's like a record that 368 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 2: really should have been a single, right, it's like, yeah, 369 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 2: to this day, is that one of the records, Like 370 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: you're out there, You're gonna be like, why wasn't this 371 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: song or single? Like it was one of them kind 372 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: of things. And for me, I always proud of myself 373 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 2: at finding those, like listening to whole albums and finding 374 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: records that it was kind of like that nobody listened 375 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 2: to that I liked, you know what I mean, and 376 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: that and I would attach myself too, you know what 377 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: I mean, and like I want to learn this song, 378 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 2: I want to play this song, sing this song, you 379 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: know what I mean. So there was a record like 380 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: an earth Wind and Fire's Power Light album and the 381 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 2: shill used to make me sing all the time. It's 382 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: record calls Straight from the Heart that was written by 383 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: Philip Eddie del Barrio. I know that record and it 384 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: was like the last song on Saturday, and it was like, 385 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: you know, such a random ass. It's like almost like 386 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: there's a record on earth Wind Fire seventy seven album 387 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 2: call All in All called I Write a Song for You. 388 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 2: Straight from the Heart is like part two of that song. 389 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 2: Right if if you listen to books songs, it's like 390 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: this is a continuation of that song, right, And music 391 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: was such a major part. 392 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: Of obviously like right now, yeah you're going. 393 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 2: There, Like music was such a major part of like 394 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 2: everything in my life, you know what I'm saying. And 395 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 2: I remember I always tell people, like the first birthday 396 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: gift I ever got when I turned six and eighty three, 397 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 2: the first birthday I got was James Album's Cold Blooded. 398 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 2: My mom bought me Cold Blooded. Still I still have 399 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 2: that album. 400 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: I knew I liked this. 401 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: So literally that was the first album I ever got 402 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 2: in my life. She bought me for my six six 403 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 2: years old. 404 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, my son, I was just outside, was outside, 405 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 3: there was outside this. 406 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's what it was. But she bought me 407 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 2: the James Cold Blooded album and never forget it. You know, 408 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: I remember, I remember opening the album. I remember, you know, 409 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 2: her writing my name on the album, opening album, pulling 410 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 2: the credits out and it was black and the Gordy label. 411 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 2: I remember everything about it, you know what I'm saying. 412 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 2: I remember dropping the kneel on certain records and you know, 413 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 2: like Ebony Eyes and you know Mary had a pimp 414 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 2: and records like that, you know what I mean. 415 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: I'm six years old by Mary. 416 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: Had a b I p you know what I'm saying, 417 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: you know, but I remember I remember being in amber 418 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: with the sound of Cold Blood, like why those those 419 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: drums sound like that? Like what is that? What is 420 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 2: the what is that? What is about that record that 421 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: makes it? You know what I mean? And my mom 422 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: was a huge Prince fan also, so she had every 423 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 2: Prince album and I remember, you know, I said night time. 424 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 2: I remember she bought nineteen and I remember opening an 425 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: album and the eye on the album, and I remember 426 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 2: everything about the process of it. And I remember they 427 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 2: went to the concert was Triple Threat concert. I remember 428 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 2: them like we're going to come her Aunt, just getting ready. 429 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: I remember this shit vividly, you know what I'm saying. 430 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 2: It's like as a kid, like why why do I 431 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: remember this? Yeah? You know what I mean. There was 432 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 2: something that was out. This was something I was supposed 433 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 2: to do. When the music is in you, it's going 434 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 2: to like when you have those moments where the music 435 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: is tapping into so I don't even know what to 436 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 2: call it, but when the music is calling you in 437 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 2: a certain way or trying to get your attention, there's 438 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: always a moment in time that you can connect to 439 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: that no matter how small you are. I have so 440 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 2: many of those moments. I have moments like a moment 441 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: where I'm sitting there watching my uncle get dressed. He 442 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: getting ready to go out on the date, and he's 443 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: just every time he goes from his room to the bathroom, 444 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 2: he giving me some more game, you know what I'm saying. 445 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: So you got to make sure you shave. You know 446 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, A shave for me? Like yeah, he 447 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: really talking to himself. 448 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah for you that give it to you. 449 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: I'm a kid kid, and he's got magic shad you know. 450 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's the eighties. Get that off your face 451 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 2: for your face burn up around. He doing that, and 452 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 2: then he got the smell. The smell good. And then 453 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: you gotta make sure you smell good. You know what 454 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 2: I'm saying That for you got to make sure. But 455 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: all I hear in the background is not the side show. 456 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: Can ye he got that's I can see it. 457 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: I can see me sitting at my grandmother's kitchen table 458 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: and watching him walk back. 459 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: And forth, and he's but he's said in the tone 460 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 2: he said, in the mood for the night gonna be 461 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 2: for him. So he got the music going. He's like, yeah, 462 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 2: nigg I'm about to get you know, he's about to 463 00:23:45,720 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 2: go that I'm not used to make these keyboards that 464 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 2: were like consumer keyboards called portasound keyboards, right and so, 465 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 2: so okay, granted, equipment was super expensive right forever and 466 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: never there back in the day, you know what I mean. 467 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: You know, you couldn't send clavi here. It was like 468 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars, you know what I mean. Like, so 469 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: what companies started doing when they started making consumer based 470 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 2: like instruments, you know what I mean? Versions, Yeah, yeah, 471 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 2: And Yamaha was one of the first to make a 472 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 2: consumer you know some you could buy several merchandise or 473 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 2: you know random you know, like at a department store. 474 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: They want the first to do it and PSR five. 475 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 2: But I think my I think my keyboard was like 476 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: it might have been seven hundred bucks, like six hundred 477 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 2: bucks some of that, you know what I mean, a 478 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 2: lot of For my mom to dropped six hundred, seven 479 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 2: hundreds on the keyboard, It's like, okay, nigga, you better right, 480 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: So so I couldn't have been on more than at 481 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: the time when I got the keyboup it might have 482 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 2: been eleven right keyboard, and I remember just breaking down 483 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 2: this keyboard, breaking it down like reading the reading the 484 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: man or breaking it down, breaking it down to what 485 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: happens is that they had four I'm sorry, there are 486 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: four pre set beats and the keyboards like basically showing 487 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 2: you the sounds it would give you, like whatever. So 488 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 2: in these four presets, I figured out a way where 489 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 2: you can erase the presets and make your own sequences. 490 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 4: And you wasn't supposed to do that because this was 491 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 4: just kind of like a demo demo. 492 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: It was you know, you get a keyboard as a demo, 493 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 2: it's a demo. But I was like, nah, let's figure out. 494 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: And it was a way you could erased the demo 495 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: and you couldn't save it. You couldn't save your practic. 496 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 2: But what I would do is I would just make 497 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: tracks because I had to share hooked up to a 498 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 2: little tape deck, make test paredess on the track, on 499 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 2: order on the tape, make four tracks the race, make 500 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 2: four new tracks race and if something, if something stuck right, 501 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 2: something that was like oh this is okay, this is 502 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: really good, right, then I would say okay, if I 503 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 2: had to make it again, I would make it again 504 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 2: to see if I could do it again or do 505 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: it better. Right, you don't even know that you're actually 506 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: fine tuning. I didn't even know. I was plying to you, 507 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'm just like, Okay, can 508 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: I make this track again? You know what I'm saying. 509 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 2: And what happened was in the short term, I would 510 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: you know, when you're young and you want you know, 511 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: at this point, it might have been maybe thirteen or 512 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 2: fourteen when this happened, thirteen, and we'll start going to 513 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: sing in groups. You know. Well, I've been in church 514 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: and all everybody want to start doing groups. Was popping, shy, 515 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 2: was out boys, some men's everybody, you know what I mean. 516 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: So everybody want to start having groups. So I was 517 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: in a group, you know what I mean, and I 518 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: was like the you know, the music guy in the group, 519 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I was at a divinete 520 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: or the Teddy right, and and in the midst of that, 521 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: there was a there was a friend of ours. So 522 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: I was in a group with my best friends at 523 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: the time, uh Scooby, Troy Clark and his brother Trevor, 524 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: and we uh they were they knew this guy right, 525 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: who was in a group called groove View. I don't 526 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 2: know if you guys mayor I don't know, you may 527 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 2: remember this group. They were signed to Atlantic Records. Group 528 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 2: called groove View. Troy Taylor wrote and produced their first 529 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 2: single song called Old Becomes the New. They were from Houston, right. 530 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 2: The guy in the group, his name was Tron Mitchell, 531 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: and I went to school with his sister, right, Laurie 532 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: and my friends they knew him, they were in a 533 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: group before that. He was kind of like developing. So 534 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 2: they told him about me the host, this kid, this 535 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: guy we're working with, you know, Brian or whatever. And 536 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: Laurie told him about me. Laurie's in a group of 537 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 2: my cousin Talia. So it was like interesting. Houston was 538 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: an interesting space, that interesting place that at that time, 539 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 2: because it was like all these groups popping up. You know, 540 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: girls time was pop was popping. This is pre Desate, 541 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 2: so girl's time was popping. All these groups are popping up, 542 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 543 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: And all y'all, all y'all going to school together too. 544 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: We all know each other in an interesting way because 545 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 2: there was this thing that kind of brought us together 546 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: called the People's workshop. So the People's Workshop was like, well, 547 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 2: all these kids will come and compete, and and like 548 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 2: you know, between People's Workshop and a SOO and things 549 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 2: of that nature, kids started knowing each other through these competitions. 550 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: That's actually how I met Robert glasper okay, through the 551 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 2: People's Through through the People's Workshop. That's a whole nother 552 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: story that too. So so t Tryn Mitchell. He hears 553 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 2: some of the songs or some of the tracks that 554 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: was making. He was like, this, you make a track, 555 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: some come on to your house. Tea had like an 556 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: a SR ten all kind of shit at this house, 557 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. He was cooking with grease right, 558 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 2: here's my tracks. He's like, yo, man, what you're working on? 559 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: So I got this little keyboard, you know. He's like, 560 00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: you're making all that on that ship. 561 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: You know. 562 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: It's like to come to my house, you know. So 563 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 2: go to his house and he shows me it's as 564 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: R ten and shows me all. I'm like, oh shit, 565 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: this is some that was like that shit blew my 566 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: mind next level, you know what I mean, I completely 567 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: blew my mind right, And he kind of took us 568 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: under his wing and was like yo, boom, you know. 569 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 2: They would They were SCIENTI Atlantic at the time. So 570 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 2: he would go to New York they make their records 571 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: this then and the third, and he would come back 572 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 2: and he would play us these records, you know, and 573 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: like and I don't think that he even knew or 574 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: maybe he knew, maybe he knew that he was what 575 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 2: kind of energy he was putting into me personally, because 576 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 2: I would hear these records, I'm like, damn, I records 577 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: something like that. How can I remember a reconsiand like that, 578 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So he was working with 579 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: people like Troy Taylor. They was working with Gordon had 580 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 2: done a bunch of stuff on him. They had a 581 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 2: real budget. Yeah, they had a budget. They had a budget. 582 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: Craig was spending money on him, you know what I'm saying. 583 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: They at the time they went in with like uh, 584 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 2: Kenny Smooth and all these They were making some records, 585 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Then they they made some 586 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 2: records with a young Donelle Jones. This is before Donelle 587 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: was Donelle was just a producer at Untouchables. And he 588 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: would come back. T would come back with these demos 589 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: like Yo, Donald wrote us another one playing some this 590 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 2: shit is crazy, you know, I mean, you know what 591 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: I mean. And I'd be like, yo, I gotta get 592 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: my records to sound like this, you know what I mean. 593 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: In the midst of this, I meet who would end 594 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: up becoming like my main mentor for many years, Greg Curtis. 595 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: In the midst of Greg Curtis. So in the midst 596 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: of all this happening with me, T in my group 597 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,239 Speaker 2: and this, that and the third T was managed by 598 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: this guy named abd Lamar. And abid Lamar was kim 599 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 2: Olajawana's cousin. He was the one that made the dealer 600 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 2: at Atlantic, but he was also managing Greg Curtis. So 601 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 2: T text me to Abby's office or my keyboard, my 602 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 2: keyboard that speakers in this. So I just bring my 603 00:30:53,720 --> 00:31:00,239 Speaker 2: keyboard to the to the fucking office. T was like, Yo, man, 604 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: press play on Abbey. So press play on Abby. Is 605 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: like there's African Oh shit, oh shit, oh this coming 606 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: out of the keyboard. Oh, I'm gonna called Greg. Now 607 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 2: he calls Greg. He's like, Greg, you gotta come up here, nigga, 608 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: you gotta come up here. This little nigga comes. He 609 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 2: got a little keyboard with speakers on his niggas playing. 610 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: He's going crazy, right, So that Greg pulls up. Greg 611 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 2: actually comes to the now for us, now you understand 612 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: for me, I was going to HSPVA at the time 613 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: I was at I was in high school. I was 614 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 2: going to HSPVA, which is the same school Greg graduated 615 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 2: from years before. Secondly, for us, Greg Curtis was already 616 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 2: a legend in the city from a gospel perspective, Rochester 617 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,719 Speaker 2: Prailway feel on Adams. He literally had been, you know, 618 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 2: on tour with everybody from Keith Sweat to Black Street 619 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: to Tony Tony two. He was like the guy you 620 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. He was just like so he's like, 621 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: Greg is coming to the office on my bugging, like, 622 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: oh shit, Greg is coming to the office. 623 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 624 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: Greg comes to the office and I pressed play on me, 625 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: like you that's coming out of that. He's like, Okay, 626 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: get in the car with me right now. So I 627 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: take my keyboard and get a car in go to 628 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: his house. Greg has this like Wold studio in his 629 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 2: crib and he's like, Yo, I'm gonna show you. I'm 630 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: gonna literally show you how to really do this. He 631 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 2: literally showed me how to produce it. Like from that day. 632 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: For it was, I was at his house down there 633 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 2: every day, you know what I mean, Like literally. 634 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: What was what was he? What was his setup? 635 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: He had the Oh no he was he was the 636 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 2: ship Greg had. Back in those days, everybody was using 637 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: drum machines like NBC. He he was different. He had 638 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: the fucking Mac. He had a Mac. This is in 639 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 2: the mid nineties. He had a Mac with performing. I 640 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 2: didn't even performed this before. It was regular performer with 641 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 2: the mo too, you know, interface, the whole like the bridge. 642 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 2: He had two D eighty eights. He had like you know, 643 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: some outboard, some outboard reverb delay, the delayed stuff you know, 644 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 2: going on. But he had eight eighty to ten eighty 645 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: the se one you know I mean. But what was 646 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 2: ill was that he had the ship. Like here, everything 647 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: programm is his computer. The patches were in his computer. 648 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: So if I wanted to go to like a No. 649 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: Lone guitar, I could just go to the computer and 650 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 2: do it. And this is about now. The ship sounds 651 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: like regular, but in like nineteen ninety four, that shit 652 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 2: was like the most and most incredible shit ever. Put 653 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: a patch on you know what I mean, on the 654 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: computer and actually make an eight part sequence and do 655 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 2: double like it was ill, you know what I mean? 656 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 2: And he basically at that point it was like yo, 657 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: you with me, you know, took him in his wing 658 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: and taught me everything that I needed to know before 659 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 2: I came to Atlanta. Right, so check right in the 660 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 2: midst of this, of all of this, my senior year 661 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: high school happens ninety five coming see high school. Who 662 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: fucking walks in orientation? Fucking Beyonce in LaToya walking orientation? Right, 663 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 2: because they're freshmen at our high school. Okay, somebody to 664 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 2: talk has been talk about them, like we knew where 665 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 2: they were from people's workshop, but now it's been talking 666 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 2: about them because they you know, God there got signed. 667 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: They was about to get suned to Columbia, and it 668 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 2: was like a big It was like talk about them, right, 669 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 2: but I hadn't seen them stay It was like, you know, 670 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 2: ten or eleven at this point that girls, yeah, like thirteen, 671 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 2: fourteen at this point I'm seventeen. You know what I'm saying. 672 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: They walked. Beyonce is a grown ass woman. Niggas at 673 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: the school is going crazy. Niggas at the school, going like, yo, 674 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 2: I know, you don't know them. 675 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: I was, I do know them freshmen. 676 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 5: It just. 677 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 2: Niggas at the school of. 678 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: I could do two more years, Nigga that school lose. 679 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 2: In their mind, right, But I already knew them the 680 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 2: whole nine. So we get the talking and you know, 681 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 2: of course there's always a common thread. We all we 682 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 2: came up together and in that people's workshop, Vive. So 683 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 2: she tells me like, yo, hey man, you know we 684 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 2: we you know, we're going to Sacramento. Were working with Dwayne, 685 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 2: Dwayne Wiggins, you know. So basically that that period when 686 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 2: they were going doing those records with Dwayne, I would 687 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 2: I was running my mom's phone, Villa. Basically I was 688 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 2: calling them, like yo, play some over the phone. I 689 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 2: was just trying to get any little bit of inspirational 690 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 2: information that I could get. And I mean I knew them. Beyonce, Kelly, 691 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 2: LaTavia Latoy, I knew him well. So they were they 692 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 2: were you know, we have a caller like Brian. But 693 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 2: listen to this song they played, you know, you know, 694 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 2: human Nature, they played on second Nature. They played those 695 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 2: regular regular they plays songs, and I'm just like, oh, man, 696 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 2: I gotta fucking figure this out. You know, It's like 697 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 2: a thing like it became a mad dash, almost like 698 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 2: a race to figure it out. 699 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: Because you keep hearing these new levels of music and 700 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: you're like, but that are people that are connected to them. 701 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 2: Know directly, you know what I mean? 702 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: Same friend groups, age group. I'm like, I gotta that. 703 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: We've all been there where. 704 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 4: It's like you think you're doing something and then you 705 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 4: hear the next level and you're like, you know what 706 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 4: they're about to ask me to play these records. 707 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I got it. You know, I ain't 708 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: bring thathing. Man, I just came to hang out, be skipping. 709 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: It's been skipping time. 710 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 4: You know when you're not on the level or you 711 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 4: should you should know because where somebody didn't know and 712 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 4: they still wanted to play it because they got excited. 713 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: And I always looked at them for those records always. 714 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 1: That's very tough. 715 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,760 Speaker 2: That was the That's where I learned the biggest lesson 716 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 2: when I would hear the records like I'm not ready yet, 717 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 2: and I was saying to myself, like you're not ready right. 718 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 2: See what happened was I had a crazy breakthrough right 719 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 2: one day Beyonce calls me, or that one of the girls, 720 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 2: either Beyonce or LaToya, one of them called me like, hey, 721 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,919 Speaker 2: we told Matthew about the song that I would pestered 722 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 2: them like yo, hey, come in the room, practice room. 723 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 2: I got a song, another song. I'm playing songs for 724 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 2: them because I was run of the one people that 725 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 2: really knew that the deal, that their deal was done. 726 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 1: It was like a rumor they still going to school. 727 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 2: They was in school. But I was like one of 728 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 2: the only people that knew that the deal was actually finished, right, 729 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 2: And they let me know that. 730 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 7: So I would always hand them like I got another song, 731 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 7: you know. 732 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 2: And one day I got a call like, hey, we 733 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 2: want to come do that song whatever song you was singing, 734 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 2: that they will come do that song. I was like okay, 735 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 2: So I'm calling Greg and call the tea and like, hey, 736 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 2: they want to come do songs, you know whatever. So 737 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 2: they came and they did. We did two songs together. 738 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 2: We did a song called Sweety Pine and we did 739 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 2: a song called hey DJ right. And I think Greg 740 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 2: actually still has actually has the song still. I believe 741 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 2: it's still as them because if it does, I'm pretty 742 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,919 Speaker 2: sure he does I'm pretty sure it does because Greg 743 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 2: is good. 744 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 7: We're keeping ship. I'm pretty sure he does. 745 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 2: So we made the songs and I will never forget 746 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 2: this because this was the day that I knew. I 747 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,919 Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I'm fun being in the group. Fuck 748 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 2: being you know what I'm saying, Like, that's not what 749 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 2: I want to do. This is what I want to do. 750 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 2: I remember, I remember it vividly. It was like, okay, 751 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 2: you know when you have a basically like Okay, I'm 752 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 2: in a group and we're trying to figure it out, 753 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 2: but I want to write for this person. But it 754 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 2: was like when I had this session, it was like, yeah, nah, 755 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 2: this is this is it? This is it? Like I 756 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 2: don't I don't want to be performed. I don't want 757 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 2: to do that. 758 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: What was it about the session? Was it? Was it 759 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: the way that the music turned out? Was it? 760 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 2: It was the way it turned out, but also the 761 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 2: way that they were like the should do something out 762 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 2: at them, the way they was giving it back. I 763 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 2: never experienced that. It was beyond saying Kelly in the 764 00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:01,720 Speaker 2: studio and I had. I never experienced giving giving somebody 765 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 2: something like a line or giving them something and they 766 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 2: give it back to me in a way. It was like, 767 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 2: oh that shit was perfect, you know what I mean. 768 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 2: Like it was like I never produced, like you you're 769 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 2: pucing in the group and you're producing yourselves, and you 770 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 2: know you don't really you know, I don't. 771 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 7: I thought I knew what I was doing, you know 772 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 7: what I mean. 773 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 2: But you know, just we just try and shit, you 774 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 2: know what I mean, to give instruction and to hear 775 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 2: it back the way that it was coming back to me, 776 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I'm like everything they 777 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 2: was doing, I'm like, wait a second, and was ill, 778 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 2: as I would tell me all the time, Like these 779 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 2: girls were way advanced, Like they were so advanced. It 780 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 2: was just I never experienced anything like that. I was like, okay, 781 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 2: all right. First of all, these girls are going to 782 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 2: be superstars. That was the first thing. Second thing, I 783 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 2: was like, this is exactly what I want to do, 784 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 2: because if I'm able to throw something out of somebody 785 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 2: and then give it back to me the way that 786 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 2: these people are giving it back to me, then I 787 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 2: don't need to be singing because they got it, you 788 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 2: know what I mean. It was kind of like that, 789 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 2: like Kelly got it, like I ain't got it. 790 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 1: But being able to identify that as a gift in itself. 791 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 2: So fast forward when I started to come to Atlanta. 792 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 2: I remember coming to Atlanta. What made you come to Atlanta? 793 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: Man, was college just to come tolt? 794 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 2: No, it was it was a girl. Yeah, it was 795 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 2: a lady real R and. 796 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 1: B R and B. I mean, I'm sure you're not 797 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: with her anymore, but you know. 798 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but she's still a great friend. Was still she 799 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 2: still get no, but no, she it's crazy. 800 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 7: Recently we we had a reconnection. 801 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,959 Speaker 2: Recently. She came to the Usher Show and we talked 802 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 2: about this and I was like, I had to give 803 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:56,280 Speaker 2: her a props, like, hey, you know, like I wouldn't 804 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 2: have came down to have one for you. I came 805 00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 2: because of you, because I was going to New York. 806 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: She lived in Atlanta, and you know she no, she 807 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: was in Houston. 808 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 2: So his deal. I graduate high school and I stayed 809 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 2: in Houston for her stay in Houston. I didn't go 810 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 2: I didn't go to the college house. I went to 811 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 2: University of Houston. All that woman to stay with my 812 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 2: woman because she was a year behind me. You know 813 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. She she's about to graduate and she 814 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 2: gets set to all these schools and she's like, I'm 815 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 2: going to Atlanta. And I'm like, well, we're going to Atlanta. 816 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 2: You going me? We got accepted, were going to Atlanta. 817 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,479 Speaker 2: I did everything I could to get to give that. 818 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 2: I got I got you. Oh yeah, got out of there. 819 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 2: Were right to Clark. I was I was trying to 820 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 2: go to the New School, driving Glassboro. I got graduated. 821 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 2: He was going to the new School, and he introduced 822 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,760 Speaker 2: me to the dean and everything, and I was talking 823 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 2: to her and I was going to try to go 824 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:56,720 Speaker 2: to the new school. 825 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:57,479 Speaker 1: What is the new school? 826 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 2: What is that? Uh? The school in Manhattan is a 827 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 2: jazz school in Manhattan. 828 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: Okay, you gonna go about to fully be immersed in music. 829 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was going to go to the I was 830 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 2: trying to and he had already, like I said, I 831 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 2: already talked to the dean a few times. We were 832 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 2: trying to figure it out. And when she told me 833 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 2: she was going to Atlanta, I was like. 834 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 7: Well, I want to go to New York. 835 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 2: I'll see you, Robert, I see to Atlanta. And ultimately 836 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 2: I remember rationalizing it because I was like, well, I 837 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 2: mean Atlanta's where At the time, this is ninety seven. 838 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 2: Atlanta was cracking, cracky. 839 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's really a it makes sense. 840 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 2: It makes us me to go ahead because I'll be 841 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 2: able to really follow what I'm trying to follow, you 842 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 2: know what I mean. And the only way I get 843 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 2: that support from my mom is if I go to school. 844 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 2: So I was able to get a Scott Scholarship at Clark, 845 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 2: and I was able to get grants and a kind 846 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,919 Speaker 2: of different things whatever I could grade, so it wasn't 847 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 2: a problem. And ended up going to Clark and I 848 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 2: came to Atlanta and I remember the first thing that 849 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 2: I did was I opened up the white Pages. This 850 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 2: is something you know, if you guys may not notice, 851 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,240 Speaker 2: you know, young age, I don't know about the white pages. 852 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 2: Y'all could Google. You know, back in the day, we 853 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 2: ain't have Google. We had the White Pages. You know 854 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And be me being an avid credit reader. 855 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 2: I knew all the studios and a new doppler. I 856 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 2: knew Licco, I knew Purple Drag, and I knew all 857 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 2: the like, all the names of the studios. I just 858 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 2: opened up and highlighted all the studios and we just 859 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 2: call try to get internships, you know what I'm saying, 860 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 2: And this is why I was going to school and 861 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 2: still doing what I was doing. But I was like, man, 862 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 2: I got to get on and I didn't realize how 863 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 2: hard it was getting internship, you know what I mean. 864 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 2: It was like they had all these stipulations. I'm like, 865 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm trying to work for free. Y'all got 866 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 2: work for free, you know, But it was a lot 867 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 2: of stipulations to get internships. And I remember, you know, 868 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 2: I'm I called every place I could call. And then 869 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 2: I remember on campus one day, you know, on campus 870 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,799 Speaker 2: they have like all of them. Yeah, so they have 871 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 2: all of the like street promo back in the day, 872 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,320 Speaker 2: it was like street promotions was big, you know what 873 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 2: I mean, all to post it was like, yeah, so 874 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 2: it was there was it was. It was you know, 875 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 2: trip Bunch was a big deal back then. And I 876 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 2: remember seeing a flyer man. It was a flyer that 877 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 2: was like you know, noontime you know music hit Man, this, 878 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 2: that and the third Boom Boom and it was like 879 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 2: Jake up Dan Teddy Bishop on the fly the flyer 880 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 2: k Fan Boom. We named all the producers and it 881 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, we got we're doing hits for it 882 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 2: was a puff Daddy, Brandy, all these different people and 883 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 2: it was like looking for banging beats called this number 884 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 2: and it was that was on a flyer. It was 885 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 2: like on a random ass flyer. And I was like, 886 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 2: what unless you kind of google my money? Early on, 887 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 2: early on, I was kind of like I didn't cause 888 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 2: I didn't know what to do. I didn't know. I 889 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 2: was like I don't know what the fuck to do? 890 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, you know, I had, 891 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 2: you know, I had a girlfriend. I was like I 892 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 2: was spending money on her. But I wasn't like I 893 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 2: didn't know what the fuck to do. It didn't I 894 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 2: didn't really go crazy manute till like later later I 895 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 2: went crazy, you've purchased? Oh man, I went, I bought 896 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,320 Speaker 2: a Bentley Cash. I bought, I bought, I bought a 897 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 2: flying spread cash. I just went right to the spot. 898 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 2: Was like yo, I called my, my, my my. I 899 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 2: did a new publishing deal and I was on on 900 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 2: on the you know you wait on the phone. I 901 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 2: went on the line for the for the clearance, like 902 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 2: I signed a contract and my mom and Chris we 903 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 2: all worked it out. I signed a contract and I 904 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 2: was at the Lermitage. I never forget it. I was 905 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,760 Speaker 2: a Rmitage hotel, just kind of in the hotel waiting 906 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 2: for the call. 907 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: It's not happening fast enough. 908 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,879 Speaker 2: I'm just happened just how I signed the contry this morning. 909 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 2: I faxed it over on. They got my banking information, like. 910 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: I can't afford it. 911 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 2: I'm just sitting there waiting, waiting, and then my mom calls. 912 00:45:53,440 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 2: She's like, Okay, you can go check that camp. And 913 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 2: I was like she was, I said, you checked. I 914 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 2: checked there, but you need to go check it. I'm 915 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 2: not gonna tell you what's in there. You go check it. 916 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 2: And I remember I wanted to go. I called the bank. 917 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 2: I was like, hey, what's you know? They gave me 918 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 2: the what I got, They gave me the balance. Yeah, 919 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,240 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, nigga. I called Beverly Hills Bentley. 920 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 2: I caught a phone with them, picked the phone up, 921 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 2: called Beverly Hills Bentley. Immediately. It wasn't even two seconds. 922 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 2: It was like, cause that's there, and I knew the 923 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 2: deal was hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. 924 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 2: I knew the deal was coming right, so we are 925 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 2: kind of been prepping me. Christ and Jahad kind of 926 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 2: being they kind of prepping me for the money, like 927 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 2: yo Christ Joh, like yo cocks. All right, when the 928 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,760 Speaker 2: money head, you gotta chill out. And they were already 929 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 2: kind of prepping me, and I was just like, okay, cool, 930 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:44,799 Speaker 2: you know cause I've been in LA for a few 931 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 2: weeks working and I'm like cool, all right cause I'm 932 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 2: like the money a day on my tripping, you know 933 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So I remember JAHI it took me 934 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 2: a few days before took me to like go test 935 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 2: drive some cars. I just like, go test drive this 936 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 2: Porsch'm gonna test drive this, asked him, mark, this bank, this, 937 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,839 Speaker 2: this band. Let me go test. I was test driving everything, right. 938 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 2: I remember my test rode the Flying Spur and I 939 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I'm gonna get this motherfucker. 940 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 7: You don't want to show you what it's like? 941 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 2: Man? You sure you don't want to just go get 942 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 2: just get a nine eleven man, And just you know, 943 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 2: I was like, i' might clean. I'm I'm to the 944 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,320 Speaker 2: nine eleven. I'm not telling him and my mom, I like, no, nigga, 945 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:25,879 Speaker 2: I'm about to drive three hundred and twenty five. That 946 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 2: motherfucker cleared. I called Bentley Beverly me, Hey, hey, y'all 947 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 2: got just that. Got that call over there. I'm on, 948 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 2: I'm on, I'm on the way right now. I went 949 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 2: to the bank. I went right over that nigga. 950 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,479 Speaker 1: Are you trying to stop you at the bank? 951 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,439 Speaker 2: Now, He's like, your little cash his check? Yeah, yeah. 952 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 2: I was like, let me get a cash his checked 953 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 2: that out. Yeah, let me get a cash in his check. 954 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 2: And that was like to Bentley Motors, Bentley Hills, and 955 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 2: I went right down there and gave him that ship. 956 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 2: And they was like, which color do you want, mister Coss, 957 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,760 Speaker 2: you mister Cox, Misscotta, what's the champagne? 958 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: Listen? And everything? Oh my god, the ground was out 959 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 1: back then. 960 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:18,720 Speaker 2: Please, it was like on the car, put bow and everything. 961 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 2: Now I was just one of them, and I remember 962 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 2: being like, you know, I never did anything, And then 963 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 2: I remember I did that, and then I flew to 964 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 2: Houston and by my mama house immediately. You know when 965 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 2: I just I you know, when you make it, when 966 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 2: you make so many songs, you stand at that point. 967 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 2: By the time I made that deal, I made so 968 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 2: many songs right, the pipeline was crazy. I only I 969 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,760 Speaker 2: was taking I didn't take a whole lot of money 970 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 2: every time. So like let's say that by the time uh, 971 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,919 Speaker 2: you got it, bad becomes a thing. Right, Like my deal, 972 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,359 Speaker 2: my my publishing deal was like we did like a 973 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 2: small deal, Like we went to Warner and did like 974 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,439 Speaker 2: they did the joint venture. Warner and I did a deal. 975 00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 2: You know, it was a small deal. So by the 976 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 2: time ig that deal, so because you got a bad 977 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 2: it was huge that these records, these records were coming out. 978 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:09,880 Speaker 7: They were huge records. 979 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 2: So by the time I was signing these deals, I 980 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 2: would doing I would get half a million here, four hundred. 981 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 2: I would sign off soon as I signed the deal ived, 982 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,240 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I was making money, 983 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,799 Speaker 2: but I had never did like a deal that was like, 984 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 2: oh here is so and so on so on millions, you 985 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,320 Speaker 2: know what I mean. I was doing five hundred recouping. 986 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 2: I would make my money, and I was doing well. 987 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 2: I was you know, I was doing great, you know 988 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,799 Speaker 2: what I mean. But it wasn't like I got a 989 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:43,240 Speaker 2: whole like a month that was like yo, here you go, buddy. 990 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 4: So you you went into that he said he said it, 991 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 4: You said it, So we going there. 992 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, confessions, So confessions right, you got to badness eighty 993 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 2: seven on one, oh. 994 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 1: Ship, Yes I'm jumping. I'm jumping. 995 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,479 Speaker 2: Yes, it is seven on one and you got to yeah, 996 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 2: you got it. 997 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,879 Speaker 1: Bad I immediately thought burned, but yes, okay, on. 998 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 2: The ones you gotta back. You gotta back this one one. 999 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 2: And what's ill is that I tell people this all 1000 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 2: the time. Out of all the artists I wanted to 1001 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 2: work with like he was, Usher was the only artist 1002 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 2: I was like, yo, I have to work with him. 1003 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You need everybody else. It 1004 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 2: was cool, it was great, you know what I mean, 1005 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 2: And I mean working with all my people, all the 1006 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 2: people you know enjoyed, you know, growing up listening to 1007 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 2: I've got a chance to work with a lea Tony 1008 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 2: brats like you know, the people who phenomenal people, right, 1009 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,439 Speaker 2: and it was just like damn, I felt like, Okay, 1010 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 2: I'm in the business. I'm doing what I'm supposed to do. 1011 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I'm working with all these 1012 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 2: people that are great. I'm doing what I'm supposed to do. 1013 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 2: When I'm i'm you know, I'm pushing. 1014 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: For are locked in at this point. 1015 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm locking with Jamaine, but I'm also locked in 1016 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 2: with Noon Time Heavy, so that Tony Braxton Aaliyah Time. 1017 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I'm locked in with your 1018 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,399 Speaker 2: man Heavy you do. Yeah, I'm locking with your man 1019 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 2: on Jagged Edge. You know, everything's so so bad. I'm 1020 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 2: locked in with him. We're doing shinting. What are we doing? 1021 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,240 Speaker 2: You know, Mariah, We're going to have different things. And 1022 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 2: the only artist that I was like, Yo, man, I 1023 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 2: really want to write that. I want that. That's the 1024 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 2: call I want, like because he would call me for 1025 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,360 Speaker 2: this different artist. I'm gona get cool. I'm coming down. 1026 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,319 Speaker 2: Diana called me to Yo, can you coming do so? 1027 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,319 Speaker 2: And so I'm coming down studio and I was like, man, 1028 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 2: I hope this thing will call me for Usher Man. 1029 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I was just you know, 1030 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 2: and he called me. I was like, Yo, man, come down, 1031 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,840 Speaker 2: you go. We're we started Usher today. I was like shit. 1032 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 2: And literally was the first day that he opened that studio. 1033 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 2: So it's the first day from the South Side. I 1034 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 2: went the South Side when they were building it, and 1035 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 2: then we were still working at the house and then 1036 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 2: one day he called me. It was like, hey, man, 1037 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 2: can you come down to the new studio. We know 1038 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 2: it was finished, we're gonna start today. And I was like, 1039 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 2: we're working on it was working on USh. I was like, shit, 1040 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 2: first day, new studio, first song, you got it bad? 1041 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 2: No bullshit? Hang up, no bullshit, new studio, first day, 1042 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 2: first song, no bullshit? 1043 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: What's first? What's first? The keys of the drums? 1044 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 2: Keys. So it's an incredible story about this, right, It's 1045 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 2: an incredible story. We're talking and he's like Jamaine is 1046 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,919 Speaker 2: very specific and strategic about how he approaches things. He's like, yo, man, 1047 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 2: like we needed to do a song. It's kind of like, 1048 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 2: what what could Nice and Slow be bigger and more pop? 1049 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 1: Like? 1050 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,280 Speaker 7: He was just like, what can how can we? 1051 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,840 Speaker 2: Because I Slow was so niggorish and dope, but it 1052 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 2: was very very black, you know what I mean, even 1053 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,320 Speaker 2: though ended up being a pop record, but his approach 1054 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 2: was very He was like, man, from the progressions, how 1055 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 2: can we make it be still black? You know what 1056 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:55,839 Speaker 2: I mean? And churchy? But you know, how can we 1057 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,359 Speaker 2: take it up a notch? And we were just kind 1058 00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 2: of going back and forth, and I started playing some 1059 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 2: things He's like. 1060 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 7: Okay, you're going that direction whatever. 1061 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 2: So he's like, yeah, man, I'm you know, Jamaine goes 1062 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 2: in once he has an idea in his head, he'll 1063 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,880 Speaker 2: go and he'll play video games or whatever's going to that. 1064 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 2: So it's crazy, is we were having a conversation before that, 1065 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 2: me and him and Jermaine, I mean, him and Usher 1066 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,719 Speaker 2: having a conversation before that. And Usher's going through this 1067 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 2: thing with this girl, you know. I mean, I don't 1068 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 2: know if I called this girl's name out, but he's 1069 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,879 Speaker 2: going he's going through this thing with this girl at 1070 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,320 Speaker 2: the time. She's a she's a disaster. It's a disaster. 1071 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,840 Speaker 2: And y'all you definitely know this woman is she's a 1072 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,280 Speaker 2: disaster and we have to ban her from the studio. 1073 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 2: It's like she's like she's just out of control, you 1074 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,279 Speaker 2: know what I mean. And jamn Is we're talking about it, 1075 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 2: and Jamain's like, man, you know, man, nigga, Yeah, she 1076 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 2: got you, man, she got you dog man. You got 1077 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 2: it bad, bro, you got it bad. He just says, 1078 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 2: he keeps saying it, and you got a bad dog 1079 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:59,359 Speaker 2: like that girl ain't no good. You got it bad. 1080 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 2: And he just said keep saying, keep saying it over 1081 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 2: and over again, and then literally that's how and whatever 1082 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,319 Speaker 2: happened with it, whatever that phrase was in his head, 1083 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 2: he was like, I'm going to stick with that. I'm 1084 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 2: going to stick to this phrase because we have to 1085 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 2: write a song about this. And when I came with 1086 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 2: the progression, he was like, So I came with the progression. 1087 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,400 Speaker 2: I mind you, I'm coming from the school noontime the 1088 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,840 Speaker 2: way my productions are at noon time, and very elaborate, 1089 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 2: a lot of transitions and strings and bridges and all 1090 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 2: kinds of ship, you know what I'm saying. So I'm 1091 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 2: approaching this ballot that way initially. So I'm I got 1092 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,319 Speaker 2: all kinds of strings and lead lines and all kinds 1093 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 2: of shit going on, and I got a bridge, part 1094 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 2: changed part, when all kinds of shit going on? 1095 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,919 Speaker 7: When all that right? 1096 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 2: All right? I got all this ship right, And so 1097 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 2: I tell ja, mane, I'm ready, man, come, come listen 1098 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,880 Speaker 2: to what I got so far. So it comes in. 1099 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 2: He press pantal drummerchine. He's just listen to all this 1100 00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 2: all this ship, you know, And he's listening. He's like, 1101 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 2: all right. So when he goes to the next sequence, 1102 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 2: He's like, we're not gonna use the next sex. I'm 1103 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 2: gonna use that bridge goes back and he's like allright, 1104 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 2: and he goes to the board and he just starts 1105 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 2: muting ship. I'm telling it's the best. It's the greatest 1106 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 2: lesson I've learned in songwriting and producing ever. I was 1107 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 2: starts muting ship, right, he's everything, and I'm like, what 1108 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:23,960 Speaker 2: the fuck is he doing? Like he mean all a 1109 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 2: good ship in my mind, I was, I was, I'm 1110 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:34,160 Speaker 2: in there getting my ship. Yeah, he mute all me 1111 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,319 Speaker 2: and everything right. The only thing we have left is 1112 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 2: the ny line and the wind. He liked the wind. 1113 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,919 Speaker 2: Keep the wind in there, but everything else right, keeping 1114 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,799 Speaker 2: gonna start here, and I'm like, okay, goes on. He 1115 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 2: goes starts loading up sounds. Is when your man is 1116 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 2: using floppy. So you had a NI starts loading up 1117 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 2: sounds or whatever. He loads up a kick a snare 1118 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:04,839 Speaker 2: I have, and he makes a drum track with that, right, 1119 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:09,279 Speaker 2: and that's it, And I add a bassline, So you 1120 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:14,880 Speaker 2: got the baddest kick snare, high hat now line, guitar bassline. 1121 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,400 Speaker 2: Don't forget the win and the wind. Don't forget to 1122 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 2: win six instruments. We write the song. Okay, there's no harmonies, 1123 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 2: so you got it bad. It's only to late line 1124 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,040 Speaker 2: the only time here harmonies in the second verse when 1125 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 2: he does I truly adore you. That's the only part 1126 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,920 Speaker 2: of it is. It's the only problem. This is no harmonies. 1127 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 2: It's literally just vocal and I'm sitting there when we 1128 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:48,360 Speaker 2: finish the song like wow, look, it was only like 1129 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,880 Speaker 2: when we finished the song, you understand, Like, and Jamain 1130 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 2: wasn't demo and songs at this point, he has stopped 1131 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,239 Speaker 2: demo and songs. We were writing the songs. I didn't 1132 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 2: with the song, and then Usher came and sang it. 1133 00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,759 Speaker 2: And after us just sang the song. It was kind 1134 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:07,879 Speaker 2: of like Nigga, like, did we just write the best 1135 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:08,960 Speaker 2: song of life? 1136 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:09,759 Speaker 1: It was like you know what. 1137 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 2: It was like one of those like like it was 1138 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 2: like a moment where then La comes. Listen to the 1139 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 2: songs before the guitar solo we had. We didn't have 1140 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 2: a guitar song on that recog. Initially La comes and 1141 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 2: you listen to the song Elie, It's like, Yo, this 1142 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 2: song smash right, and Jamaine's I got a vision for it. 1143 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 2: I put a guitar solo on We're gonna get Bill 1144 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 2: oldon so Billy Old and puts guitar solo on it 1145 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,200 Speaker 2: kills and we mix it right. Send the song in 1146 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:35,600 Speaker 2: to uh le face and Arista Clive that don't like 1147 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 2: the guitar solo. He wants to take the guitar solo out, 1148 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 2: and Jermaine has to fight for the guitar solo, which 1149 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 2: obviously is the moment. Actually, the video is the moment, 1150 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 2: and the video is the moment. You didn't hear it 1151 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 2: at the time. Clyde fought song. You should have known 1152 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,320 Speaker 2: better too. We had a guitar song and should better 1153 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,439 Speaker 2: and you wanted to do like he just didn't fuck 1154 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 2: with us on the guitar solos on the R and 1155 00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 2: B sh. I don't know why, but I just remember 1156 00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 2: being like, oh man, simplicity, Like I don't have to 1157 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 2: do all of that ship to get my point across. 1158 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1159 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,880 Speaker 4: The average person can't do anything even don't even truly 1160 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 4: understand all of it. 1161 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, damn, I got to do all 1162 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 2: that to get my shit across. Like he was like, yo, man, 1163 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:18,320 Speaker 2: take all that ship out of there. Man, you gotta 1164 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 2: leave room. And literally that's when he was like, okay, 1165 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 2: right now, you know, it was like, oh, this. 1166 00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 1: Is too much, too much. 1167 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 4: We've all had beats in front of us where we're 1168 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 4: just like you can listen to it one hundred thousand times, 1169 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 4: just like I can't figure nothing out of this ship 1170 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,680 Speaker 4: because it's just too much going on. It's too busy 1171 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 4: for me. So you need someone like Jermaine to say hey. 1172 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:41,479 Speaker 1: He's like, no, nigga, you're doing too. 1173 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 2: Much, damn. And literally that's another technique that I took 1174 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 2: with me. I took from that moment. It's like, Okay, 1175 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 2: I'm taking this woman, but it's time for me to 1176 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,880 Speaker 2: do you know whatever. I'm taking this woman. 1177 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 1: Whose idea was it to go bone thugs in harmony 1178 00:58:58,640 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 1: the bit of it inc. 1179 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:06,440 Speaker 3: Body just can't keep it real, not bom bone, boom bone. 1180 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 1: We were, We. 1181 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 2: Just are huge fans of bone with that harmony. I'm 1182 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 2: gonna keep it real, you canderstand. We're coming off from 1183 00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 2: Mariah we did. We did a song with Mariah right 1184 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 2: this is before the big ones, like before like shake 1185 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 2: it Off and we had them charm Bracelet. We had 1186 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,720 Speaker 2: done a record before sung with Rainbow and Mariah is 1187 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 2: a full on like she's a Bone Dogs, a harmony fanatic, 1188 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:34,640 Speaker 2: Like that's how she's full on, like full on, like no, 1189 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 2: no doubt, right, So for us, it's just an extension 1190 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 2: of that relation, this relationship, you know what I'm saying. 1191 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 2: And we we I mean bone Thugs by far as 1192 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,440 Speaker 2: one of my one of my favorite rap groups and 1193 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,480 Speaker 2: one of my favorite period you know what I mean. 1194 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,800 Speaker 7: And melodically, I just. 1195 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,040 Speaker 2: Always felt like and Jamaine look like we just always 1196 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 2: felt like nobody ever explored it properly. 1197 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. 1198 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 7: Like so it's like who can explore and make it. 1199 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:10,320 Speaker 2: Global? 1200 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, you. 1201 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:14,919 Speaker 7: Know what I mean, Like that's the thing. 1202 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:19,240 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, and and and I think also 1203 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 2: it's an extension of you know, think about Jermaine with 1204 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 2: uh but pop Pimp you know U s h g 1205 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 2: rr A. Like I think that that's just an extension of. 1206 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 1: It. 1207 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 7: You know, it's the same kind of concept, you know 1208 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 7: what I'm saying. 1209 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 1: So let's get to confessions confessions. 1210 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,920 Speaker 4: We we we we got there. We got man, great story, 1211 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:47,959 Speaker 4: confession confessions. It's time to do life changing ship. Oh yeah, 1212 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 4: at this point, it's time to do game changing. 1213 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:56,480 Speaker 1: The pressures on. Yes, we didn't feel it thought within 1214 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:57,439 Speaker 1: the industry though. 1215 01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 4: Within the industry, like every everybody felt the pressure of. 1216 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,320 Speaker 2: What's going on with Usher? What's doing next? 1217 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 1: Because of the sputter in between? 1218 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I remember too, I was working with like 1219 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 2: a couple of artists, like you know, like younger artists 1220 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 2: in between, and a couple of antars would say things 1221 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 2: that I thought were like extremely disrespectful, like at and 1222 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,120 Speaker 2: are telling me something? They brought me this artist and uh, 1223 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 2: they were describing him to me like yeah, you know, 1224 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 2: he's not much of a vocalist, you know what I'm saying. 1225 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:33,800 Speaker 2: And he was like usher man, you know, like he 1226 01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,560 Speaker 2: ain't really much of a vocalist, you know. And I 1227 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:36,439 Speaker 2: remember being like. 1228 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 1: Wait, that's a wow? Was that? 1229 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,440 Speaker 2: What what did you say? Because I'm like, you know 1230 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 2: that I work with him, you know, I you know, 1231 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 2: I do his vocals, Like what are you talking about? 1232 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, you know what's like he got sing 1233 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 2: he can't sing sing. I'm like what you know what 1234 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,680 Speaker 2: i mean? I'm like, hold on, hold on, what. 1235 01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 1: Listen chair man, swivel chair. If you're watching this, you're 1236 01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,400 Speaker 1: a goddamn fool, your motherfucking mind. 1237 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,320 Speaker 4: I just remember, Yeah, I don't care who you are, 1238 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 4: you could be the biggest executive too, saying Usher is 1239 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 4: not much of a vocalist, You're a god damn. 1240 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,880 Speaker 2: Fun I remember that vividly. So I remember going into 1241 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,959 Speaker 2: making Confessions, Like I said, we didn't feel we didn't 1242 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 2: feel the pressure because we knew. We just went into 1243 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 2: it the way we would do any of any other things. 1244 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 1: Just automatic. 1245 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,480 Speaker 2: So like that Burn was the first song we did 1246 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 2: for Confessions, Like it was the first song, the first one. 1247 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 1: Secure Steward played it for me. 1248 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,320 Speaker 4: Hey, co, Yeah, that was the first, and I thought 1249 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,040 Speaker 4: it was your first single, and I was like, this 1250 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 4: is out of here. 1251 01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,200 Speaker 1: This nigga's back, He's all the way back. 1252 01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 2: It was the first time we wrote. So it's like 1253 01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,800 Speaker 2: let it Burn is another thing which your man is, Like, 1254 01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 2: he's a person that will have like multiple conversations with people, 1255 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,640 Speaker 2: let say, who have concled with me, with you and 1256 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,520 Speaker 2: with you and not let us know that he had 1257 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 2: conversations with us, Right, So we think that what we're 1258 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,520 Speaker 2: talking about is the first time we're talking about it, 1259 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,919 Speaker 2: and that we're coming up with it right here. But really, 1260 01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,160 Speaker 2: he's already had a conversation with you and you said 1261 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 2: the same thing to him, and he's just saying to 1262 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:25,160 Speaker 2: you or man, shit, let it burn, right. But literally 1263 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 2: he had the same exact conversation with Usher Nigga. 1264 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 1: So the niggas laying out of DiCaprio in inception. 1265 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:38,040 Speaker 2: Like so, so everybody has different perspectives on how you 1266 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Scientists, everybody's So. My perspective is 1267 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,440 Speaker 2: I was going through something. I never played video games. 1268 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,160 Speaker 2: I was in the room playing video games. Like, man, 1269 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 2: you're in there playing video games? What the fuck is 1270 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 2: wrong with you? 1271 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:51,800 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 1272 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,400 Speaker 2: And I'm telling them what's going on, my lady is 1273 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:58,800 Speaker 2: just bullshit going on, like man, shead Cox, Man, you 1274 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,560 Speaker 2: let that ship burn? Man? Right? He says it right, 1275 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 2: And I'm like, Nigga, that's a song. He was like, 1276 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:06,080 Speaker 2: I'm neig go write it. And I was like, what, 1277 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:07,800 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. He was like, nigg go 1278 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 2: write it. You think it's a song, go write it? 1279 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,000 Speaker 2: So o care cool. So going, I started making the 1280 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,320 Speaker 2: progression to what ended up ends up becoming burned, and 1281 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,240 Speaker 2: I say, yeah, I think I got the progression. So 1282 01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,439 Speaker 2: he comes in and I played the progression. He's like yeah, 1283 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 2: and then I literally was like it's gonna burn for 1284 01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,480 Speaker 2: me to say this coming from I started to start 1285 01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,800 Speaker 2: spewing the lyric to him. He's like, that's it, and 1286 01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,000 Speaker 2: then he just I said, I made the first four lines. 1287 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,640 Speaker 2: Then he picks up the next like four or five lines, 1288 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,400 Speaker 2: and then it's like, this is the first time me 1289 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,840 Speaker 2: and him were writing songs writing a song this way, 1290 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,320 Speaker 2: because normally it's like I make, I make the progression. 1291 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,520 Speaker 2: I may give him a melody he made, you know 1292 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 2: what I mean. I may chime in, but he usually 1293 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,720 Speaker 2: does the heavy lifting of the lyric, you know what 1294 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 2: I mean. With this particular time, me and him are 1295 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,439 Speaker 2: just going like back and forth, you know what I'm saying. 1296 01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,680 Speaker 2: I'm like trying to do my best babyface ship with it, 1297 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,320 Speaker 2: you know, all set all with telling me why I'm 1298 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:05,720 Speaker 2: stay in this place that it is like they said, 1299 01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,560 Speaker 2: when I'm going back and forth, like I'm like, this 1300 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,280 Speaker 2: ship is like somebody to be filming this ship, you 1301 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,280 Speaker 2: know what I mean, like in real life. So we do, 1302 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:17,120 Speaker 2: we finish the song and we're like, oh, this this 1303 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,960 Speaker 2: is the first song for the album that we're making for. 1304 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,160 Speaker 2: You know, we don't know Confessions is coming at this point. 1305 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 2: We're just writing. We're months away from writing Confessions at 1306 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,520 Speaker 2: this point. This is the first song. So we started 1307 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,880 Speaker 2: writing other songs, trying to just get to the to 1308 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:32,560 Speaker 2: the next song. 1309 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 7: And we go to La. We go to La. 1310 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,800 Speaker 2: And I mind even burn is finished, the most finished Moe. 1311 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,520 Speaker 2: We go to La. We work at bay Faber that 1312 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:49,120 Speaker 2: brains way, and we kind of got writer's block, like, 1313 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,680 Speaker 2: well we can't you know, we're not really getting it's 1314 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,800 Speaker 2: not really coming right. I gotta I gotta go to 1315 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,160 Speaker 2: the Dnnist. I'm gonna go to Dannist, can whatever whatever. 1316 01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,080 Speaker 2: Jaman's like, yeah, I'm gonna ride around whatever whatever. So 1317 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:04,880 Speaker 2: Jermaine's riding around l A and he fucking sees the 1318 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:09,120 Speaker 2: big ass Beverly Beverly Center sign, you know what I'm saying, 1319 01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:13,080 Speaker 2: And for him, you know, uh, that was the first 1320 01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,920 Speaker 2: thing that came to his mind, like, oh shit, you 1321 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:17,880 Speaker 2: know I'm in the bed List Center, like man, not 1322 01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,360 Speaker 2: giving a damn, Like that's what you know what I mean? 1323 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,440 Speaker 2: Those things, these things start coming to him, you know 1324 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:26,600 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, And we would you know, I come back. 1325 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,680 Speaker 2: I got my teeth pulled, I'm full of Viking and 1326 01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,520 Speaker 2: I come back, you know what I mean. It's like 1327 01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 2: we're gonna come up with we start coming up with 1328 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:40,640 Speaker 2: this idea. Ironically, what was the predecessor of this idea 1329 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:46,960 Speaker 2: was Ignition. The cognition is kind of why confessions even 1330 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,000 Speaker 2: exist in real life. 1331 01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:50,000 Speaker 1: How so? 1332 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:54,640 Speaker 2: Okay, so we do Confessions one, which is originally called 1333 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:58,320 Speaker 2: all Bad, Right, All Bad. We do the song boom 1334 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:04,280 Speaker 2: whatever this is before Ignition. All Right. Time goes by. 1335 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,640 Speaker 2: They sleeping on the song. They're sleeping on All Bad. 1336 01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:08,800 Speaker 2: The label ain't really fucking with it, you know what 1337 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:16,040 Speaker 2: I mean. Ignition comes out right the first version Efgnition 1338 01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,560 Speaker 2: comes out. It didn't really blow up, you know. It 1339 01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,840 Speaker 2: was kind of like some some random ship. Niggas got 1340 01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,040 Speaker 2: the single in the mail, like we got the you know, 1341 01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,080 Speaker 2: we were really super random. But its like, but we 1342 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:27,720 Speaker 2: thought this ship was incredible. 1343 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:28,520 Speaker 1: Right. 1344 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,560 Speaker 7: But at the end of the song, the end of 1345 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,960 Speaker 7: the original version, he. 1346 01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,080 Speaker 2: Gives you the previews of the remix, right, it gives 1347 01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,760 Speaker 2: you so right, like yo, so we kept like, yo, 1348 01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,840 Speaker 2: this this I can't wait to hear what this nigga 1349 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:44,360 Speaker 2: do with this song. And then next thing, you know, 1350 01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:49,440 Speaker 2: it comes out with part two and we're like, nigga, 1351 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:55,880 Speaker 2: here bro right. So cool Ignition comes out. It's going crazy, 1352 01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,440 Speaker 2: and then Jamaine comes to me like, yo, I know 1353 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,520 Speaker 2: how how we can save this song. We can save 1354 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,640 Speaker 2: all bad. I was like, well, we gotta do part two. 1355 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,960 Speaker 2: We gotta just fucking do. We gotta do a part 1356 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,080 Speaker 2: two of the song. We gotta make it. So take 1357 01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,680 Speaker 2: some elements of whatever the first part of the song 1358 01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,840 Speaker 2: is and let's just make it. Let's make part two. 1359 01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:17,960 Speaker 2: Fuck it. You know what I'm saying. 1360 01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,599 Speaker 7: Okay, Cool I said, what's part two about? 1361 01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1362 01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:22,479 Speaker 7: He was like, Nigga, I got it. 1363 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:24,920 Speaker 2: The nigga gets the bitch pregnant and this that and 1364 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,920 Speaker 2: the thing. He's going on and on. He's going on 1365 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:32,599 Speaker 2: and on, and it's going about something like, oh no, nigga, 1366 01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:33,240 Speaker 2: this is personal. 1367 01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:38,519 Speaker 1: You can't fool me. 1368 01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:53,799 Speaker 3: It made a lot of records, broke a lot of records, 1369 01:08:53,960 --> 01:09:00,000 Speaker 3: broke a lot of records. You've done some people's favorite records. 1370 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,560 Speaker 3: But now we want to know your okay. 1371 01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 1: Top fave, saying your top five. 1372 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 4: Right top fa. 1373 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,400 Speaker 7: Right now, your top five Okay, R and B. 1374 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:29,240 Speaker 2: Singer R and B song like. 1375 01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:37,400 Speaker 8: You Got Too New, You got to shoe gots you and. 1376 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,880 Speaker 2: He's gonna tell us he's top fire. 1377 01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:43,280 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1378 01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:43,960 Speaker 3: Ring on. 1379 01:09:47,960 --> 01:10:07,600 Speaker 2: To your top five five? Yeah yeah, top five R 1380 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,000 Speaker 2: and B singers. 1381 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:10,320 Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, we're gonna start there. 1382 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:15,320 Speaker 2: Ship that's a good one. Let's cook. Let's cook of 1383 01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:15,960 Speaker 2: all time? 1384 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:17,400 Speaker 1: Yours? 1385 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:18,519 Speaker 2: Oh, your mind of all time? 1386 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:20,439 Speaker 1: Yours? Your personal list? 1387 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:26,920 Speaker 2: Luther Vandross. Why Stevie Stevie Wonder? I mean, you got 1388 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,080 Speaker 2: to say Whitney Houston. You can't go. You have to, 1389 01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:30,519 Speaker 2: you can't go, you have to. 1390 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm so surprised when when she's not mentioned. 1391 01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:34,679 Speaker 7: You can't not say Whitney Houston. 1392 01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,400 Speaker 2: Bro. It's hard for me because it's like I want 1393 01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,040 Speaker 2: to go shock a Colm, then I want to go 1394 01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 2: to say. 1395 01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:42,200 Speaker 7: You cannot say r Kelly. 1396 01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,200 Speaker 1: You can'tnot say our killer man. 1397 01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:48,200 Speaker 2: I just you know, I know the comments gonna go crazy. 1398 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,360 Speaker 1: Okay, talk about the music. 1399 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:57,840 Speaker 4: Vocally, like in the artistry, like the songs that the 1400 01:10:57,840 --> 01:10:58,760 Speaker 4: reason why we're here. 1401 01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,920 Speaker 2: You just can't not do that, you know what I'm saying. 1402 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,679 Speaker 2: You can get into di'angelo vibe, you can get into. 1403 01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,479 Speaker 2: You can go back back and get liking to like 1404 01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:13,880 Speaker 2: a Marvin Gay vibe. Marmon Gay you can you know, 1405 01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,160 Speaker 2: my hey, let me tell you who's a well fucking monster. 1406 01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,760 Speaker 2: You don't talk about enough, I guess because he's way 1407 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:23,000 Speaker 2: old school. But you watch you put these clips. Motherfucking 1408 01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,320 Speaker 2: David ruff Who. 1409 01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,160 Speaker 1: You talking to? Who you talking to? 1410 01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:33,360 Speaker 2: Like what I'm saying for David Ruffling was a fucking 1411 01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,120 Speaker 2: There's so many, man, I mean, you know, fantasious, one 1412 01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:44,920 Speaker 2: of my one of my favorites, Jasmine Sullivan is one 1413 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:45,759 Speaker 2: of my favorites. 1414 01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:46,599 Speaker 1: All Right, that's it. 1415 01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,280 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I got so many, man. 1416 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:49,719 Speaker 1: Better make sure you bring it home when you're gonna 1417 01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:50,240 Speaker 1: get in trouble. 1418 01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:52,479 Speaker 2: Usher. 1419 01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,920 Speaker 7: Of course, I'm talking about what the usher is like. 1420 01:11:56,479 --> 01:12:00,320 Speaker 2: And I always tell people like, because I'll I spent 1421 01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,519 Speaker 2: I spent so many years defending you know, like my 1422 01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,240 Speaker 2: love for his vocal and I'm like, girl, which is 1423 01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:11,200 Speaker 2: crazy an rs the people who work in the music business, 1424 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:15,040 Speaker 2: and I'm like, yo, like, what makes us so special 1425 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:19,880 Speaker 2: is that the nigga's tone is such a one of 1426 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:27,360 Speaker 2: a kind, Like it is the most familiar, most recognizable tone. 1427 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,080 Speaker 2: I think and R and b like outside of like 1428 01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:36,600 Speaker 2: you know a Keith Sweat who has like a proper. 1429 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,479 Speaker 1: Get more difficult for him now though the artist thing 1430 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 1: was one. 1431 01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:49,160 Speaker 2: Thing songs, So yeah, to do five, I'm gonna try 1432 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:51,400 Speaker 2: the songs of all time? 1433 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:57,120 Speaker 1: Ship what you're riding around to? What's like? What? What's what? 1434 01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,679 Speaker 1: Do you find yourself? What's the free what's the freeway 1435 01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:03,240 Speaker 1: out here? To seventy eight five? Maybe you get on 1436 01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:03,920 Speaker 1: the twenty. 1437 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,599 Speaker 2: Cut gusus what I found myself listening to lately, I've 1438 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,839 Speaker 2: been listening to a lot of Dinning by Donny Hathaway, 1439 01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,160 Speaker 2: So I've been like on like love Love Love Heavy, 1440 01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,200 Speaker 2: like that song is so special to me. It's something 1441 01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,960 Speaker 2: very beautiful and lush about that song and the production 1442 01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,200 Speaker 2: of it and his the meaningfulness and how he delivers 1443 01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,560 Speaker 2: the record, and it feels like he's you know what 1444 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,040 Speaker 2: I mean. It feels like he means that shit late 1445 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:32,160 Speaker 2: in my life. Michael Jackson is yes, yeahah, what can 1446 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,120 Speaker 2: you say about that song? It's not you know what 1447 01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:36,320 Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's like literally one of the best songs 1448 01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:43,240 Speaker 2: ever created. Right, I Love Lady by D'Angelo. I mean, oh, 1449 01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:47,000 Speaker 2: you know my record I Love a lot that I 1450 01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,799 Speaker 2: co wrote that I love you got a bad Okay, 1451 01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:52,160 Speaker 2: you got it bad. It's just like to me, I 1452 01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:53,960 Speaker 2: feel like that song is like one of these songs 1453 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,240 Speaker 2: is kind of like That's why I always reference that 1454 01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,799 Speaker 2: song because it's like I learned so much in that session. 1455 01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:00,679 Speaker 2: The first the first first thing so, but the second 1456 01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:05,080 Speaker 2: thing is it's like it's so simple, but it's so 1457 01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:07,800 Speaker 2: he sang it so beautifully and it was like this 1458 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,160 Speaker 2: heard and it's like magic. 1459 01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,759 Speaker 1: Literally, it's all of those, all of those simple elements 1460 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,200 Speaker 1: coming together. The song is. 1461 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,720 Speaker 2: I mean, it's like from the from the beginning, from 1462 01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:22,000 Speaker 2: the very top when he is the like from the top, 1463 01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,519 Speaker 2: it's just like the funk is this coming on right now? 1464 01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:30,280 Speaker 2: The wind, the winds, the wind. There's so many, man, 1465 01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:34,720 Speaker 2: but I cannot. I would be remiss not to mention 1466 01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:35,880 Speaker 2: Mary's be without you. 1467 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,880 Speaker 1: I mean you, I mean, I mean you know what 1468 01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you know I mean you can't you just 1469 01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:41,880 Speaker 1: you have to. 1470 01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,439 Speaker 2: I mean she didn't even sing that song. No more people, 1471 01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:46,479 Speaker 2: it's still the biggest record. Yeah, Mary don't sing us, 1472 01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:48,599 Speaker 2: so no more. I haven't seen Mary seen this song 1473 01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:49,360 Speaker 2: forever man. 1474 01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:49,920 Speaker 1: On the roll. 1475 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,800 Speaker 2: She doesn't sing this song. I'm not she stopped singing 1476 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,800 Speaker 2: that song a long time ago. Why, I don't know 1477 01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,600 Speaker 2: that should ever have seen a song like that? Like 1478 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,000 Speaker 2: she just I'm one of the bats. She wouldn't seen 1479 01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,240 Speaker 2: that song in like a minimum five six years, probably longer. 1480 01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,040 Speaker 1: We need Marry on the pod talk about this. 1481 01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:09,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, she hadn't seen that song in a long time. 1482 01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:11,320 Speaker 4: We're not gonna let you out here without this stuff 1483 01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,120 Speaker 4: right now, Okay, I'm ready. 1484 01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:18,960 Speaker 2: I ain't saying no name. 1485 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:20,519 Speaker 1: Hey, I ain't saying no name. 1486 01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:22,360 Speaker 2: I ain't saying no names. 1487 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,839 Speaker 1: I ain't saying no name. We was. 1488 01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:37,479 Speaker 8: What you did, don't see, see, I ain't saying no 1489 01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:37,519 Speaker 8: I don't know. 1490 01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, man. 1491 01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:44,320 Speaker 4: So Brian Michael Coy, yeah too. You've been in this 1492 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,439 Speaker 4: game for a long time. Long your mama bought you 1493 01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:49,000 Speaker 4: Rick James. 1494 01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:55,720 Speaker 2: Rick James first eighty three dude, you. 1495 01:15:55,600 --> 01:16:03,240 Speaker 1: Yeah at six, So you were justin for all of this. 1496 01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:05,680 Speaker 4: But as you were destined for all this, you had 1497 01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:09,360 Speaker 4: to go through all this. So with you being here now, 1498 01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:13,320 Speaker 4: we want you to tell us a story funny or 1499 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:17,479 Speaker 4: fucked up? Are funny and fucked up the trials of 1500 01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:23,559 Speaker 4: Brian Michael Cox. I ain't saying no names the only 1501 01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:24,360 Speaker 4: road to the game. 1502 01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:26,280 Speaker 1: She can't say nobody name. 1503 01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:30,559 Speaker 2: Okay. So there was this artist. So I had a 1504 01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:35,720 Speaker 2: couple of encounters with this one artist, and uh, this 1505 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,320 Speaker 2: actually was the artist I was saying that there was like, oh. 1506 01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:41,840 Speaker 7: Uh, you know, you know he's he's like usher, he 1507 01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:43,040 Speaker 7: can't really like with the same. 1508 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,720 Speaker 2: That was the preface of the prefix of the meeting. Right, 1509 01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:48,599 Speaker 2: So I meet the guy right comes to the studio 1510 01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,679 Speaker 2: I was working at Larry Bie comes to the studio, 1511 01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:54,960 Speaker 2: comes in with a bunch of like you know, fake 1512 01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:58,200 Speaker 2: jewelry on like you just look, this is I've never 1513 01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,880 Speaker 2: seen anything like this. Really it was so it was 1514 01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,559 Speaker 2: super cartoon characters. I never seen nothing like this in person. 1515 01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,360 Speaker 2: He pulls up, he got the you know, he got 1516 01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,720 Speaker 2: the whole kick kaboo along like this is back when 1517 01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,480 Speaker 2: he was wearing a really baggy jean outfits. 1518 01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:14,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 1519 01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:18,960 Speaker 7: You know, so comes in, he's like, you know, really cocky. 1520 01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:22,960 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I'm okay, man, let me 1521 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:24,360 Speaker 2: hear something. You know, they played me some of the 1522 01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,240 Speaker 2: music is cool. Is not nothing crazy, it was you know, 1523 01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,400 Speaker 2: it's not terrible. I'm like okay, we'll cool a right, 1524 01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,160 Speaker 2: we can do something. You know, we'll figure it out. So, 1525 01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,200 Speaker 2: uh he's like, yeah, man, you know, I'm I'm I'm 1526 01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:36,880 Speaker 2: trying to take this ship to the next level. Man, 1527 01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,280 Speaker 2: I'm so and so and so. You know, I'm I'm 1528 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,160 Speaker 2: gonna be bigger than everybody, and I'm gonna cat cool. 1529 01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,760 Speaker 2: I've heard this before, but you know, all right, cool, 1530 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:48,000 Speaker 2: you know it's good at I have, you know, leething yourself, 1531 01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,360 Speaker 2: got myself. So then there was this girl that I 1532 01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,000 Speaker 2: was dealing with at the time who comes in. She 1533 01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,080 Speaker 2: came to visit me. She comes in and he sees 1534 01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:59,240 Speaker 2: her and he's like, I guess that they had like 1535 01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,960 Speaker 2: some type of interaction before. He was trying to talk 1536 01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,920 Speaker 2: to her and it didn't really pan out or whatever whatever. 1537 01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:09,240 Speaker 2: So she comes in and he's like, what's she doing here? 1538 01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,360 Speaker 2: And she's like, you know, I'm meant to see him 1539 01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:14,360 Speaker 2: right point in me. He's like, oh, you here to 1540 01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,639 Speaker 2: CP Okay, I get it, You here to see b cocks. Okay, okay, 1541 01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:21,640 Speaker 2: all right, right, that's cool, right whateverever Son se n 1542 01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:23,960 Speaker 2: he don't like it at all. 1543 01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,280 Speaker 3: He's not fucking with it, right, So I'm. 1544 01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,360 Speaker 2: Like, no, it's all good man, everything's cool man, it's 1545 01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,439 Speaker 2: just my homegirl, whatever whatever, whatever, you know, we're trying 1546 01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:33,519 Speaker 2: to play it cool. So as a session goes on, 1547 01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:35,439 Speaker 2: this guy's not really as he's not good at all. 1548 01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,200 Speaker 2: I thought he was at least decent. But every right, 1549 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:41,599 Speaker 2: come with the song. So we get through the song. 1550 01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:45,000 Speaker 2: She's still there. So I did go to the bathroom 1551 01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:47,280 Speaker 2: and walk in on him talking to her right and 1552 01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,600 Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, I got money now, you know what 1553 01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,519 Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like you know what I mean, why don't 1554 01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:52,800 Speaker 2: you let me just you know what I'm saying, take 1555 01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:54,559 Speaker 2: you out, take you and take you all the time. Whatever. 1556 01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,840 Speaker 2: I got money now, I got a deal. Who I'm saying, 1557 01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:58,960 Speaker 2: he's just he's just and all on that. I'm like, yo, 1558 01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:00,680 Speaker 2: what's up. It's like hold on and I'm just you know, 1559 01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,799 Speaker 2: I caught him in the middle. In the middle, I'm. 1560 01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:04,920 Speaker 7: Like, Yo, what are you doing? 1561 01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:05,200 Speaker 1: Bro? 1562 01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:08,200 Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Like, I mean, it's all good. 1563 01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,520 Speaker 2: Whatever if she go, if she go in this whatever, 1564 01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:16,000 Speaker 2: handcuff cool. Fast forward. I get a call from the 1565 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:17,720 Speaker 2: A I. He's like, yo, man, we want you and him, 1566 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,200 Speaker 2: we want going you in Jamaine, Like all right, So 1567 01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:22,880 Speaker 2: I told your man, say, Yo, they want us to 1568 01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,120 Speaker 2: work with this kid. I tell him my name. He 1569 01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,320 Speaker 2: was like, all right, you know, bring the kid down, 1570 01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:31,600 Speaker 2: bring him to Atlanta. Now with in Atlanta and we 1571 01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,200 Speaker 2: write another song. Might just get this kid is not 1572 01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,760 Speaker 2: He's not good. So I know this already. I know 1573 01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:39,200 Speaker 2: this going into it. I'm like, Yo, this kid is 1574 01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,760 Speaker 2: not good. But this is our man and our guys. 1575 01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:45,880 Speaker 2: Let's make it happen. Start recording with this kid, right. 1576 01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:52,240 Speaker 2: I I sing enough to get my ideas out right. 1577 01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,240 Speaker 2: Whatever I can, I can carry you. I can sing 1578 01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,599 Speaker 2: a little bit, but I'm not like, I'm not an artist, 1579 01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,040 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it's like for me, 1580 01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,680 Speaker 2: I'm getting frustrated because I'm like, yo, like, bro, like 1581 01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,720 Speaker 2: I should not be able to sing this better than you. 1582 01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,280 Speaker 2: You getting paid to sing. You told me you was 1583 01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,960 Speaker 2: the best motherfucker and you ain't shown me nothing yet. 1584 01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:15,240 Speaker 2: You know me, taking I'm usually not like this. I'm 1585 01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:16,799 Speaker 2: usually super different. 1586 01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:18,720 Speaker 7: No no. 1587 01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:29,040 Speaker 2: No, no, no no no, you try trying. We're going through 1588 01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 2: the sessions going terrible. So I tell the runner, yo, 1589 01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,880 Speaker 2: go get me like a bottle of Hennessy. I was 1590 01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,479 Speaker 2: drinking at the time we made bottle. I gotta get 1591 01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:40,280 Speaker 2: through this, right, So Jermaine knows. And once I started 1592 01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,720 Speaker 2: like going up and he's like, all right, man, you 1593 01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:44,479 Speaker 2: know what, dog, I'm gonna I'm gonna get up, all 1594 01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:52,160 Speaker 2: righty man, y'all finish up. So so I'm drinking, I'm 1595 01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:56,080 Speaker 2: you know, taking and he's fucking up. I'm like, yo, 1596 01:20:56,160 --> 01:21:00,000 Speaker 2: man again again, so drunk, I get the more belligerents. 1597 01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:00,800 Speaker 2: I'm kidding it right. 1598 01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:05,959 Speaker 7: So now for whatever that wind. 1599 01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:07,920 Speaker 2: It's like maybe another two hours, all right, So I'm 1600 01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,920 Speaker 2: I'm done, got halfway down the bottle, seventy five percent 1601 01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,360 Speaker 2: the battle. Next thing, when your man comes in, I'm 1602 01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,160 Speaker 2: like screaming on the top of my laws, like, yo, man, 1603 01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:19,479 Speaker 2: that's not the fucking no, you can't fucking sing. I'm 1604 01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:24,640 Speaker 2: going crazy on this kid. I'm going I'm going so 1605 01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:28,559 Speaker 2: crazy in this kid. This kid wants to fight me. 1606 01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,680 Speaker 2: I'm going crazy on this kid, like, yo, you know, 1607 01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:34,000 Speaker 2: while we wasting our time, man, time you listen your budget, 1608 01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:35,640 Speaker 2: you waste no gonna never get this ship right. You 1609 01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:37,519 Speaker 2: didn't get the last song right. I'm going crazy on 1610 01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:41,880 Speaker 2: this kid, like going crazy and like, Okay, that's enough. 1611 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,679 Speaker 1: It's going to take over, take you out. 1612 01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,320 Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, yeah, that's enough. Come on out here, man, 1613 01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,519 Speaker 2: it's enough. It's enough. You're beating you're beating the kid up. 1614 01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,800 Speaker 2: It's too much. It's too much. And I was like, 1615 01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:56,799 Speaker 2: you know what, I'm not drinking sessions no more. I stopped, 1616 01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:58,680 Speaker 2: Like that's what made me stop like getting drunk in 1617 01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,280 Speaker 2: sessions because I was like, because we drink a little bit. 1618 01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,960 Speaker 2: If we're working, little drinks, cool, we could we can 1619 01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,479 Speaker 2: get past it. If you're drinking. If I'm drinking and 1620 01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:11,519 Speaker 2: it's bad, it's gonna go all bad. So do you 1621 01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:13,080 Speaker 2: do you have a nickname for this guy? 1622 01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:15,400 Speaker 1: Hey? Man, get out of there, Man, get out of there. 1623 01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:19,280 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying for who he became, you 1624 01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:21,040 Speaker 2: know what it should be? 1625 01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:22,599 Speaker 7: It should be that. But I don't drink Henessy anymore. 1626 01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:23,200 Speaker 7: So that that was the thing. 1627 01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:26,360 Speaker 2: I stopped drinking Henessy surely thereafter because I had another, 1628 01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,200 Speaker 2: uh situation that was kind of really fucked up off 1629 01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:29,639 Speaker 2: the Hennessy. 1630 01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:30,960 Speaker 7: So I was like, yeah, I'm not gonna do this 1631 01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:31,360 Speaker 7: no more. 1632 01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:32,040 Speaker 1: It's aggressive. 1633 01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,400 Speaker 2: So, uh, Henessy really makes you want to fight somebody, 1634 01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,760 Speaker 2: and I really want. I'm not really naturally that kind 1635 01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,080 Speaker 2: of a person, So I was like, yeah, I wanted 1636 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,040 Speaker 2: to kid me. No, I was going crazy with the kid. 1637 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,080 Speaker 2: I was like because I was just because I was like, well, 1638 01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:46,840 Speaker 2: a few things I don't like for me. If I'm 1639 01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:52,080 Speaker 2: coming into a situation and I'm like, man, let the 1640 01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,880 Speaker 2: room dictate what we're gonna do. We're gonna come in 1641 01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,040 Speaker 2: with good energy and we're gonna see what happens. You know, 1642 01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:00,240 Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm personally you know, say lead it open 1643 01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,360 Speaker 2: and let God come in and whatever happens happens. I'm 1644 01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,120 Speaker 2: that person come in, got ideas. Let's get the vibe, 1645 01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:08,080 Speaker 2: because the vibes gotta be we gotta be bouncing. 1646 01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:08,200 Speaker 1: You know. 1647 01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:10,320 Speaker 2: If you coming to room, I know that we're gonna 1648 01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:14,120 Speaker 2: get a lot of shit done because it's just our energy. 1649 01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,360 Speaker 2: Like if a person person coming in there like Nigga, 1650 01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,960 Speaker 2: you ain't done nothing yet, I'm not even you know 1651 01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:21,559 Speaker 2: what I mean. It'd be different if you were like 1652 01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,439 Speaker 2: a star, then I would or had done some things 1653 01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,760 Speaker 2: that I would be like, I gotta respect that you 1654 01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:29,120 Speaker 2: may be a little eclectic and you gotta get your 1655 01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,720 Speaker 2: ship off. But Bro, you ain't done nothing like I 1656 01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:37,840 Speaker 2: mean zero, you coming here telling me you need us 1657 01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:41,040 Speaker 2: right now, family, You need everything we got to give you, 1658 01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,519 Speaker 2: and you can't even deliver. So it'd be different if 1659 01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,960 Speaker 2: you was delivering and and I was just badgering you. 1660 01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:49,960 Speaker 2: Like bro, listening back to this ship, I would be 1661 01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,639 Speaker 2: like you listen back to that. You sign the way 1662 01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:58,480 Speaker 2: I sang it s beating. I was beating him down. 1663 01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,040 Speaker 2: Give him an name. I tuck him Awy because I 1664 01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:03,679 Speaker 2: don't trink hensy. 1665 01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:05,479 Speaker 1: So my question is, did he ever get a hit? 1666 01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:06,320 Speaker 2: He did? 1667 01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,639 Speaker 7: He actually got a record. I'm gonna give you guys 1668 01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:09,960 Speaker 7: a hand. 1669 01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:11,840 Speaker 1: I already know who it is. You know who it is. 1670 01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:14,360 Speaker 1: I know who it is. I know who it is. 1671 01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:16,080 Speaker 7: He got one record. 1672 01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:19,160 Speaker 4: I know exactly, and I know that people are gonna 1673 01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:20,559 Speaker 4: be like, Jay, tell me. 1674 01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:23,519 Speaker 1: Record. I know record. 1675 01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,160 Speaker 4: I know who this artist is because I'm pretty sure 1676 01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:27,080 Speaker 4: I came across them. 1677 01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:28,960 Speaker 2: He got one record off. 1678 01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:32,479 Speaker 1: We'll get into it. I know we not. We never asked. 1679 01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:34,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, Joe d m me. 1680 01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:39,479 Speaker 2: I don't know you got one record off? One record? 1681 01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:41,920 Speaker 2: Never heard from again? But he got one record? 1682 01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:54,280 Speaker 1: Well, brother h Elder hennessy. Elder. That's it. Start our church. 1683 01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,439 Speaker 1: We're gonna start our church, elder. 1684 01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:01,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. 1685 01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:02,800 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna start the building fund. 1686 01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:07,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all the money, get the building fun, collect 1687 01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:08,760 Speaker 2: the money. 1688 01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, brother, brother, I love you. 1689 01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:14,360 Speaker 2: Man, I appreciate you all. You know, we could go 1690 01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:18,280 Speaker 2: for another quick literally all day. We could do this 1691 01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:18,920 Speaker 2: all day. 1692 01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:19,120 Speaker 1: Man. 1693 01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:20,840 Speaker 2: We're glad I got a chance to do this. Man, 1694 01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:21,960 Speaker 2: We've been trying to do this for a minute. 1695 01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:23,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. But we just want to make sure that people, 1696 01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,439 Speaker 1: you know, you know, we just want to make sure 1697 01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:28,680 Speaker 1: they celebrate shure, they celebrate you. Man, appreciate you. You 1698 01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:29,599 Speaker 1: should be celebrated. 1699 01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:30,880 Speaker 2: Appreciate your brothers. 1700 01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:34,320 Speaker 1: Man, not later now now, right now. 1701 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:35,439 Speaker 7: I appreciate y'all. 1702 01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,240 Speaker 2: Man is amazing. 1703 01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,160 Speaker 1: My name is saying. 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