1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: I am hungry for vanilla. Let me tell you, I'm 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: like so excited. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 2: My name is Evil Longoria and I am Myraon and. 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Hungry for History, a podcast that explores our 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: past and present through food. 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 3: On every episode, we'll talk about the history of some 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 3: of our favorite dishes, ingredients, and beverages. So make yourself 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 3: at home, Rachel, we just had the most ridiculously incredible 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 3: day day, one of the most memorable days of my life. 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: I have to say, right, I know and I don't know. 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: It's because we're geeky about food. So we're north of 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: the port of Veracruz. We're in the region of the 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: Toa Ors in English and English, which is the original 14 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: region of the vanilla plant. 15 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 4: Yes, Pantla where we were today. 16 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: That region was known as the city that perfumed the world. 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so romantic. 18 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: The whole thing today was you're impregnated a flower. 19 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: I am a proud mother father of a vanilla bean. 20 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: I am pregnated an orchid. Thank you very much. 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 4: You're gonna have a little vanilla baby, vanilla baby. 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: Mom. 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: You know you saw me. I was It was so 24 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: nerve wrecking. And we're gonna get to the process because 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: it's a hard process. But like you guys, first of all, 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if people understand vanilla anything vanilla, vanilla, 27 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: flavor of vanilla, smell, vanilla in medicinal vanilla comes from 28 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: a vanilla bean, m hm. And that bean comes from 29 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: an orchid that grows on a vine. Yep. 30 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: Exactly when you look at the vanilla bean, split it 31 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: up and it's all these teeny tiny little seeds. 32 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 4: So it is the most labor intensive crop. And like 33 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 4: you said, it's a flower that grows from a vine. 34 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 4: That's what. 35 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: It's the most incredible process that I'd read about it. 36 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: I read about it. I use it a lot. I 37 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: always use vanilla beans. If I'm in the story, I 38 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: buy a vanilla bean, and I don't know if you've 39 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: noticed it, like thirty dollars. 40 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, now do you understand why? 41 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: Now I have such an appreciation as to why vanilla 42 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: is thirty dollars. Also, I've never bought vanilla extract that 43 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: is chemical. I always read the ingredients because things can 44 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: say natural vanilla extract and there don't come from avian 45 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: and they don't come from the land, and there's nothing 46 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: natural about it. 47 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: And now it's all chemicals. It's cal chemicals or caramel color. 48 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it's really important to read the label and 49 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: the ingredients should be vanilla and alcohol. A few years ago, 50 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: I made vanilla. I got a bottle of vodka. Okay, 51 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: you made vanilla extra. 52 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 4: I made veilla extract. 53 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, added a ton of vanilla beans. And a 54 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: year later it's ready. It's the perfect gift. 55 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, little vanilla home of. 56 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: Mine, do that and give it to me. It was 57 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: a perfect gift. I was like, this is a very gift. 58 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: But it's just it's an incredible process. I mean to 59 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: when you're at the store and there's one thing. 60 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 4: Okay, looking at the agredients and seeing it and the vanilla. 61 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: Extract and just being like, oh my god, this is 62 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: thirty dollars a bean, or this is twenty five dollars 63 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: a bottle. 64 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 4: But you understand why. 65 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: I mean from that bottle, if you go to the 66 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: farm where we were lucky enough to be. 67 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: It today, it's just un unbelievable. I want to we're 68 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: going to talk about y'all. We're going to talk about 69 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: our day today because it was really the entire process 70 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: of harvesting of vanilla bean. But first of all, I 71 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: want to start with like, I don't think if people 72 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: even know the vanilla plant is native to Mexico, the 73 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: tot Naas. 74 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 4: Because they were they were using it. 75 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: Talk about the the toto Nach mythology about it being 76 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: a princess, right, because you know, the agave of tequila 77 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: has a whole methought. Oh yeah, the god way way, 78 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: and so of course vanilla comes from some goddess. 79 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: Of course, it just just to add to the to 80 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: the romance. 81 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 82 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: So according to Totonac mythology, the vanilla orchid was born 83 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: a princess who was forbidden by her father from marrying 84 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: a mortal. 85 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: Ah. 86 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: So but of course she didn't pay attention to your father. 87 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: So she fled with her lover that she adored, and 88 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 2: they were captured and they were beheaded and their blood 89 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: oozed out of their bodies and or headless bodies, and 90 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: where the blood touched the ground is where the vines 91 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: and the orchids grew. 92 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: My dream for everybody who's listening to this and people 93 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: who aren't, is that they make this pilgrimage to Vanilla, 94 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: because you know, you go to Verracuz, you have to 95 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: drive three hours north to Babuntla, which is home to 96 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: the Totonacs or Totonacas, which was this thriving civilization. When 97 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: you drive, we're in the job. Banana leaves everywhere, Banana 98 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: trees everywhere, right. 99 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: Rivers everywhere, the ocean. 100 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: It's super lush, lush, lush. And it was a thriving 101 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: community because of its strategic location to trade routes, but 102 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: also natural resources. There's jungle, there's rain, there's sea, there's 103 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: fresh water, there's i mean all the natural the mountains, 104 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: all of it. Here. We went to the ruins of 105 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: it at that Heen Heen, Yeah, and that was fascinating 106 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: and you can tell just by those ruins what a 107 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: prosperous civilization they were. I mean, it was huge, and 108 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: they had a marketplace, and they had the temples, and 109 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: they had the rituals, and then they had the residences 110 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: and many. 111 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 5: And very little of it has been fifty percent, how 112 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 5: many only fifty percent, that's crazy, has been excavated, So 113 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 5: there's way more like, oh my gosh, you know, if 114 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 5: we only knew, but this was, you know, the people 115 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 5: in the civilization that really discovered. 116 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: Or first that we know of used vanilla. 117 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 118 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: People, Well, they first say there were the to cultivate 119 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: the vanilla. 120 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 4: And when we were there at the Daheen yesterday at 121 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 4: the ruins, we saw that ceremony of the men. The Yeah, 122 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 4: it's about noon. 123 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 6: The sun is bright and hot and very very humid 124 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 6: here in Papantla Ladakrus. 125 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: So if you could imagine, this is long pool, it's 126 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: super tall, like yeah, I don't even know how many feet, but. 127 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: Oh god, hundred feet yeah, uh huh. 128 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 4: And five men. They're dressed in really bright colors or 129 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 4: white glass, but bright red pants, and they have. 130 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 2: All sorts of slowly colorful ribbons and ribbons on their head, 131 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: ribbies on their hats. 132 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 4: I see red and green and yellow and the blue. 133 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: So one of them is at the very top playing 134 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: a little drum and playing the flute, and then four 135 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 2: of them start at the very top, and once he 136 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: starts playing the music, they start spinning down like birds, 137 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: like rain, but also they represent the four cardinal directions. 138 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, here they go. 139 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 6: You're hanging upside down, hanging from your ankles, and you're 140 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 6: spinning round. 141 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 7: And so this is a ceremony that's been happening since 142 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 7: pre Hispanic times, and there is this legend that at 143 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 7: some point the gods stopped. 144 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: You know, giving people rain because people weren't paying enough 145 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: attention to the gods. 146 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 4: So they were like, okay, here's your drought. 147 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: So the ceremony was created to appease the gods and 148 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: bring the rain back so that the vanilla could thrive. 149 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: I think clanbad. Here's the crazy thing. Vanilla vines or 150 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: plants only grow within a twenty degree band on either 151 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: side of the equator because of the climate. 152 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, chocolate as well, it needs to be hot. Well 153 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 4: we know today it's hot and humid. 154 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it needs to be hot, humid, very tropical with 155 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: that's why environment a great place for it as well, 156 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: even though it's not native to Madagascar, it's just the climate, 157 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: the climate. And then it's like, oh my gosh, like why, 158 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: like what happened? You know, like what happened in Mexico. 159 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: It doesn't produce, you know, it produced very little, and 160 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: so I was discovering that, you know, the vanilla industry 161 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: began to really take off in Madagascar in the eighteen nineties, 162 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 2: and it was right around the time that Mexico was 163 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: in turmoil, like The Mexican Revolution was nineteen ten to 164 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: nineteen twenty, so it was right around the time that 165 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: Madagascar vanilla started to go up, right, So that's essentially 166 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: the revolution was raging throughout Mexico and it was immediately 167 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 2: followed by the oil industry, right, so vanilla's forgotten industry. 168 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: It was abandoned. 169 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 2: It was abandoned. Yeah, it was a and there are 170 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: farmers and people trying to bring it back, just like 171 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: it's happening with corn and beans and all of these things. 172 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: I love that there are still people that care, that 173 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: are wanting to keep these traditions alive. 174 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 4: It's like you really have to take care of it 175 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 4: to nourish the land, and just because these things just end. 176 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and it's like what it's native to 177 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: this region, but most of the Mexican vanilla that we 178 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: can buy in the States is not Mexican. 179 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 4: It's not real vanilla. It's very easy to say. 180 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: Natural, right, but it's just it's one of the chemicals 181 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: that they were talking about today in Mexico. Like their 182 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: goal here is they want to become a leader again 183 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: in production of vanilla worldwide because they feel like they're 184 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: the best producers of the plants native to hear but 185 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: the global market, the price is dictated based on production 186 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: in Madagascar, lack of production of Madagascar, overproduction in Mexico. 187 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: There's just so many factors. It's just a hard crop. 188 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: And now you know, Madagascar produces most of the vanilla 189 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 2: in the world eighty percent, eighty percent of the world 190 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 2: vanilla's produced in Madagascar. 191 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 4: That's insane. And there's so I mean, if there's a hurricane, 192 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 4: forget it. 193 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. So today, what Mike then I 194 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: learned was so Verta Cruz or this region of Verta 195 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: Cruz isn't hurricane written. It doesn't have hurricanes. And this 196 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: particular region for vanilla is up against the mountains, so 197 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: they've kind of been pretty protected because of climate change. 198 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: The last two years they've gotten their first hurricanes and 199 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: it destroyed the vanilla plantations, a lot of them. And 200 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: that is crazy to me that, you know, climate change 201 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: is happening, it's real, and it affects people. 202 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 4: It affects all of those people. The are livelihoods, you know. 203 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 2: So it's this entire cycle and everything it revolves around 204 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 2: the seasons and the cycles. I mean only in April 205 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: and it's you know, and it's on the vine for 206 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 2: nine months, and it's just, oh my gosh, it's so delicate. 207 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 4: It's just so incredibly delicate. 208 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: One thing that I found so interesting and when it 209 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: first made its way back to Europe and there was people, 210 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 2: you know, writing about everything that was happening that they 211 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: were finding here in Mexico or. 212 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 4: New Spain as they call it. 213 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: But there's this one doctor that was sent over, doctor Francisquernandez. 214 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 2: He was sent over in fifteen seventy. He was here 215 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: for seven years to record the observations of New Spain, 216 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: and he describes six hundred plants. He describes vanilla. Vanilla 217 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 2: steeped in water causes the urine to flow admirably. Vanilla 218 00:11:55,640 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: warms and strengthens the stomach, diminishes flatulent. It gives strength 219 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: and vigor to the mind. Heals female trouble, and is 220 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: said to protect against the bites of venomous animals. But 221 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 2: also mixed with chocolate, it excites the venereal appetite. 222 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: That is a mouthful of descriptors. Yes, that is well, 223 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: so it was the first viagara. 224 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 4: I guess. I mean you get pillow talk to this flower. 225 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 4: It's so very interesting. 226 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll be learning all about the 227 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: mysterious origins of vanilla. I don't know it's that mysterious, 228 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: but they're romantic, they're very romantic, and why European colonists 229 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: were confused for centuries about how to successfully grow it. 230 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: And you can listen to some of our observations at 231 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: the plantation. 232 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 4: It gets a little sexy. 233 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: Sexy time, sexy time. I'm not gonna be this is 234 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: not a spoiler, but somebody has sex. 235 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: Well, because I've always heard this is a funny story 236 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: that the woman from the farms Gaya Gaya farms, Gya farms. 237 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 4: So this region for centuries was. 238 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 2: The only region in the world that produced vanilla. And 239 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: originally it was pollinated naturally because the flower is a hermaphrodite. 240 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 4: It has both male and female male. 241 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: And female organs that's divided by a little flat So 242 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:43,479 Speaker 2: there is a little. 243 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 4: Bee called the Elasia bee. 244 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: Okay, that's a long, skinny bee that doesn't produce. 245 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:56,479 Speaker 1: Honey money, and it only function is to pollinate, to pollinate. 246 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: The vanilla, and it goes into the male and then 247 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 2: into the woman. 248 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. That's all that bee does. But the 249 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: bee is not around anymore. 250 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: It's they're trying to bring it back, trying to bring 251 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: this feedback I had already read, and this is interesting 252 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: that the bee that did that was the Mellipona bee. 253 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: Mellipona bee. And I asked, and she was so funny. 254 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: She's like, oh, the many bona, she said, she's Mossa. 255 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: She's like the little cheese massa. 256 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 4: Be the little gossip by. 257 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: Bee that's like checking you out and seeing if you're pregnant, 258 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: Like what's happening. 259 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 4: She's like the nosy neighbor that goes away. 260 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: But she wasn't the vollinator. 261 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 4: She has a vollinator. 262 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: She's just a nosy bee that wanted to see what 263 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: was happening. Yes, but it's the. 264 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: Other one, the quiet, hard working bee that doesn't get 265 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: the credit. 266 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 4: That it doesn't get the credit because it's the cheese mosa. 267 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: That loud one. She said, she's even Mazurita. She's even 268 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: a little fatter. 269 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 4: This is so funny. Oh, the Gorrita one. 270 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: Because the band that we have today was the Vanilla Planetforma. 271 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: But then there's another hype of orget that's the bobona 272 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: that's a little bit bigger. 273 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,479 Speaker 4: And the bee that's also. 274 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: Native to this region region, and the bee that pollinates 275 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: the bonbona is the same type of beat, but she's 276 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,239 Speaker 2: a little more chubby, and she's just she's like the hardworking, 277 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: she's very efficient. 278 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 4: She's like a little god to beat that. 279 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: She was so funny the way she said, she's your 280 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: little little hardworking she's quiet, she does her job. 281 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: She pollinates, it leaps. Oh my gosh. But now, and 282 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: this is the most fascinating thing to me, is that 283 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: so because vanilla was native is native, was native to Mexico. 284 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: When the Spaniards came and took it back to Europe, 285 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: it made its way down into Madagascar, which is now 286 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: today the number one producer of vanilla. But they realized 287 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: they didn't have the bees to pollinate it. So how 288 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: did they how did they plant it? How did they 289 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: reproduce it? 290 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a crazy story because from Spain, like you said, 291 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: it came for the concourse and it was so important here, 292 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: I mean so important, I mean as important as you 293 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: know you could say corn chocolate and vanilla nola, right, 294 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: And vanilla was used to season their chocolate drinks and 295 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: it was all uses to incense for their temples and 296 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: sometimes they would mix it with gobald to, you know, 297 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: for their. 298 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: So it was very very important. 299 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: Was it was very regal spice because it's so hard, 300 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: such little productions, and it takes a year. I mean, 301 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: there's only one harvest a year. So it was very special, 302 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: very special. 303 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: So eventually from Spain, it made its way all over Europe, 304 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: made its way to France, and the French conquered you know, Africa, Africa, 305 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: so they brought it over. 306 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 4: In the nineteenth century. 307 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: But it was growing because it's a beautiful flower, it's 308 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: a vine, but it wasn't producing any being beans because 309 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,359 Speaker 2: it wasn't being pollinated. 310 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 4: It was just like there, but it wasn't doing what 311 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 4: they wanted it to do. So the person that figure 312 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 4: out the way to hand pollinate the. 313 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: Vanilla because they don't have natural pollinators. 314 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 2: Because those little bees are only in this country, only 315 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 2: in Mexico, only in Mexicanos. 316 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: Never they can have in Madagascar. 317 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 4: No, they could never. 318 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, So was a young a twelve year old enslaved boy. 319 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 4: Named Edmund Lbs. 320 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: And this twelve year old child kickstarted a billion dollar industry. 321 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well he's the one that figured out that 322 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: he used a little stick to carefully join the male 323 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: and female parts of the flower together, and today the 324 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: method is still known as le Edmond Edmund's gesture. 325 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 4: Oh Edmund's gesture. Oh that's beautiful. 326 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: That's the poet, it's named after him. 327 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: It makes you think this is a twelve year old 328 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,959 Speaker 2: child who was clearly brilliant. Had he had the opportunity, 329 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: he would have ruled the world. Rule the world, ruled 330 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 2: the world. 331 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, because of well you know again, I think you know, 332 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: we talked about sugar coffee. Like, there are certain crops 333 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: that lend itself to slavery, and vanilla was one of 334 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: them back in the day because it takes almost three 335 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: years for a vanilla orchard to balloom. Takes three years 336 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: for the buyers to have a one flower, one flower, 337 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: three years before it begins producing flowers, and then when 338 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: the orchids finally form, the farmers have to observe them. 339 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 4: Really carefully and have to work quickly when. 340 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: The flower bud opens, right, and it's only in the 341 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: late morning, and a single pollinated flower will only produce 342 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: a single vanilla bean. 343 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 4: It's crazy, it's crazy. Yeah, and of course you know 344 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 4: they needed a lot of labor. 345 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that, yeah. 346 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 4: It requires labor. 347 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: The other thing I want so I want to go 348 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: back and say, was how to do that? How to 349 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 1: hand pollinate it? That's crazy, because but what I did today. 350 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 4: You were nervous. You were so sweating. 351 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: I was sweating. 352 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 4: I've shaken. 353 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: I think I needed my glasses because let me tell you, 354 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: there's one month that the orchid blooms and we're here. 355 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: How crazy that we were here for the pollinating I 356 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: mean for the blooming's And not only does it bloom 357 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: only in the month, it booms only two hours a day. 358 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 4: And if it's not pollinated, it. 359 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: Dies, and it dies, it dies, So you missed the 360 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: whole year, Like your whole harvest is ruined if you 361 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,719 Speaker 1: do not. And there's how many buds, I mean thousands, 362 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: thousands and thousands and thousands of these little orchid buds. Yeah, 363 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: and they all open at different times, So this one 364 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: might open today, five might open tomorrow. So these vanilla 365 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: producers go every day in the morning because that's when 366 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: it opens. If it opens that day, and you have 367 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: to find one of the orchids that it's open you 368 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: cut it open on the side. I had to slice 369 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: open the orchid, open up to the sexual organs. Is 370 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: that what you call the plant? Yeah? My only plant reproduction, 371 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: like knowledge is by grease too, not grease grease too. 372 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: Reproduction re production. 373 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 4: But you're following tube to work. 374 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: That's what I did today. So you did. Okay. 375 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 4: So I'm here with Eva. We're we're in a vanilla field. 376 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: We just have to describe what we're seeing. First of all, 377 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: this is the most peaceful greenhouse I've ever been in. 378 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 6: It's so beautiful and it's it's it's amazing. It's a 379 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 6: little bit of cloudy today. Yeah, and you could hear. 380 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: The birds, which she says affects whether they open or not. 381 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 6: Okay, that's right, I heard her say that, So it 382 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 6: doesn't they don't really, So there's not a lot open today, 383 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 6: right because it's such a cloudy because it's do cloudy. 384 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: They need the sun. 385 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 6: But it's beautiful. 386 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: It's this like orchids orchid. 387 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 6: It's this yellow orchid with these and these thick green vine. 388 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: They look like succulents. 389 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 3: They do. 390 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 4: They're really thick, really really thick leaves. Yeah, they're really thick. 391 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 6: Leaves, and yes, this flower, one flour produces one being being. 392 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: I just pollinated it. I just impregnated the bean with 393 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: this little stick. It's a little wooden stick just for 394 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: you guys to get a feeling of where we are. 395 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: This is. This is a very. 396 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 6: Small production here organic. 397 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: She doesn't use any chemicals, and there are people that 398 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: do this process one orchid at a time, and so 399 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: with this little stick. I was very stressed by the way. 400 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't even breathing, but really really fascinating how it's 401 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: made and it's endemic to this region. 402 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 6: And it's endemic to this region in Vera Cruz, the 403 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 6: land of Vanilla. Yeah, amazing, it's beautiful. 404 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: I want this plant in my home. 405 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 6: So how did you impregnate it? 406 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: We have to slice it open, and that's the male 407 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: organ right here and the females underneath it. So you 408 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: scrape it and smash it down. We'll not smash It's 409 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: very delicate. 410 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 6: You have to be delicate like. 411 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: A woman, and is nine months nine months for this baby. 412 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 4: That is amazing to me. 413 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: I can't imagine doing that at thousands and thousands of 414 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: times in one harvest. 415 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 4: No, well, you said, can I have a glass of wine, like, oh. 416 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: Did I just have sex? Did we all just have sex? 417 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 4: I'll just experience this together. Concentrations. 418 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: It was crazy. It was crazy to think I did one. 419 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: I mean how many they have to do a day 420 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: within a month. 421 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and each one, each flower produces one vanilla bean 422 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,479 Speaker 2: and in nine it ripens in nine months, right, and 423 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: then they pick the bean and then it's a whole other, 424 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 2: like process, a whole other, like one hundred. 425 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 4: Days to get the vanilla bean that we buy at 426 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 4: the store. 427 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere hungry for history will be right back. 428 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously you love vanilla. I what do you 429 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 4: make with vanilla? Do you everything? Bake with it? 430 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: Do you everything? My famous cranberry sauce at Thanksgiving is 431 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: made with vanilla bean. Like you have to cut two 432 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: vanilla beans. You have to scoop out the beans, you 433 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: put it in and then you throw the two beans 434 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: in there. It's my poached pair cranberry sauce. So it's 435 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: like poached pears in this cranberry sauce of citrus and vanilla. 436 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 4: That sounds delicious. 437 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: Oh, it's amazing. It's in my cookbook. And then the 438 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: other thing I make vanilla bean ice cream. And that's 439 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: my favorite thing because you see all the little seeds 440 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: against the white. I don't get vanilla ice cream. I 441 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: get vanilla bean ice cream. Yeah, and a little goes 442 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: a long way. 443 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're vanilla there. Today I had a moment with 444 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: this vanilla. I got a little emotion with. 445 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: The ice cream. 446 00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 447 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: My dad used to like Hoggan does vanilla ice cream. 448 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 4: That was like his thing. 449 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 2: Every day after every meal, he had to have a 450 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: scoop of vanilla ice cream. 451 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 4: And I was just standing there outside. Was it vanilla 452 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 4: bean ice cream? It was vanilla? It was there vanilla 453 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 4: bean ice cream? 454 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 2: Or was the one that my dad he liked any 455 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 2: cri but yeah, vanilla bean, yeah, especially and he used 456 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: to make ice cream all the time. But yeah, just 457 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 2: looking at it and just being out with the birds 458 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: and the heat and there's the moment and just eating this, 459 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 2: I was like a little bit like I had to 460 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 2: walk away. 461 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 4: I was just like, oh my god, this is just 462 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 4: this is life. 463 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just so and it's amazing how a flavor 464 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 2: could just trigger so many emotions, so many memories, and 465 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 2: so yeah, I love vanilla. Just whenever I use the 466 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 2: vanilla bean. I always stick the I used, you know, 467 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 2: the seeds. 468 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 4: I put it in my sugar. So my sugar every 469 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 4: time I open up my sugar smells like vanilla. 470 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: What I'm gonna do that? 471 00:24:59,400 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 4: I just start doing. 472 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: It is such a great idea, you just put it 473 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: in there. I usually cook with the vanilla bean. What 474 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: do you use vanilla for? What do you cook it for? 475 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 4: You know what I love to make. 476 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 2: I love to make medalanes, French medalanes. I make a 477 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 2: brown butter with the vanilla bean with the seeds. And 478 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: I love to make ice cream as well. And I 479 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 2: love to make flan, vanilla fla vanilla flan with the 480 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 2: vanilla seeds. 481 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 4: Those are the main things I do with me. Nola, 482 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 4: the flam the ice cream. 483 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: Well, what recipe did we learn today? I was like, 484 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: this doesn't sound good. I don't know about this was 485 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: vanilla cream chicken. Oh my gosh, And let me tell y'all, 486 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm making that the minute I get back home. 487 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,719 Speaker 4: It was delicious. 488 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 2: It was delicious because it had like twelve sticks of butter. 489 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, helps, But it wasn't sweet because you, like you said, 490 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: vanilla is not sweet. Vanilla is vanilla Yeah, vanilla's bitter. 491 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: It's its own thing, its own thing. 492 00:25:52,760 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, you guys, we had this creamy chicken which was 493 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 8: basically like any cream based broth because it was heavy cream. 494 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: Here they used natha, which is the fat of milk. Right, 495 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: so I think we can substitute with heavy cream. 496 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 4: I think we can subst to do with heavy cream. 497 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 4: I don't know if crumb Fresh would be too heavy. No, no, 498 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 4: I think it would be heavy. 499 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: But it does have a crim fresh feel in the 500 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: sense of crim fresh isn't sweet. It's a little tart, 501 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: but not that isn't tart, isn't it? 502 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 4: Crumbfresh is tart. 503 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. 504 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 4: I would probably use heavy cream maybe like she used cream. 505 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 4: She used cream, She. 506 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: Used cream, and oh no, wonder it was so good, 507 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: So what what the fat? Could we substitute it with? 508 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 4: Maybe a little crumb fresh or a little ricatta? 509 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: Ricotta? 510 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: Ricotta, it's ricotta. It's the ricotta, yeah, because it's very mild. Yes, 511 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 2: but it's cream like we don't have in La. We 512 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 2: don't have nata in La, but ricotta rikatta. 513 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: It is exactly ricotta. So heavy cream ricotta, sawtate on 514 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: and butter. You pour that and vanilla bean and you 515 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: put that in a blender and you cook it with 516 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 1: the chicken and it just comes out wow, amazing. But 517 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: then the tortillas is like the Pieta resistant vaniadas, which 518 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: were vanilla in chiladas. 519 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: It's like an enchila, but instead of it putting in chile. Yeah, 520 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 2: she put it in the cream and the vania. So 521 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 2: the n viniadas, and it was their family recipe. 522 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: It was so generations old. Yeah. It was so down 523 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: good and topped with vanilla powder. Yeah, vanilla powder, which 524 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: I've never seen. Yeah, I mean they sell that at 525 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: the STO. Yeah, I haven't seen it, only seen extract 526 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: and bean and the beans. 527 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, they do have it, and they have the paste. 528 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 4: I've seen it. 529 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my gosh. It was so good. And then 530 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: we had platanos plantains in a vanilla liqueur flambei for 531 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: dessert with vanilla bean ice cream on top. So the 532 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: vanilla bean ice cream just melted on top of these 533 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: vanilla la cour plant It was the best meal, the 534 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: best ever. 535 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 4: I'm never gonna forget today. 536 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I swear like seeing vanilla has been like a 537 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: lifelong dream. 538 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: Oh I know, me too. 539 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: And today it was like what a memorable experience, like 540 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: once in a lifetime, everybody has to come see vanilla. 541 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 4: Wow. 542 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you can, Yes, I would encourage buying Mexican 543 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: vanilla just because I'm Mexican. 544 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 4: Yes, and to support to support our people's. 545 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: What are peoples, but also it's it's endemic to this country, to. 546 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 4: This country, and they're trying to bring it back. 547 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: They're trying to bring it back. Yeah. Okay, well you 548 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: know what we should do, y'all. We're going to post 549 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: this recipe. Yes, we our version of. 550 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 4: It, our version of it. We'll figure it out. 551 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: We'll figure it out, we'll test it, and we're going 552 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: to post it for you guys. But until then, I 553 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: hope you have a vanilla latte. I hope you have 554 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: a vanilla ice cream. I hope you have a vanilla 555 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: dreams dreams. When people go, oh, it's so, that's the 556 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: worst metaphor for boring, because there's nothing boring about vanilla. 557 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: On the contrary, vanilla is so incredibly complex and exciting. 558 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: It has just stories and stories and layers and layers, 559 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: and it's so yeah, history hungry for history. Wow. 560 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 4: Thanks for listening everyone, Thank you. 561 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: Hungry for History is an unbelievable entertainment production in partnership 562 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: with Iheart'smichaultura podcast network. 563 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: For more of your favorite shows, visit the iHeartRadio app, 564 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.