1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Recording in progress. All right, well that's my opening. Welcome 2 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: to part two of Why They're Nazi Cowboys. Um, what 3 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: is this podcast? Garrison? It could happen here? Talking about 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: that together the cap boys of Nazis? Which did which 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: did actually happen here? They're actually we'll talk about how 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: they actually happened. Um. But before we before we get 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: into the topic of fascists becoming fem boys via exposure, 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: because I do, We're gonna start off by talking about 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: kind of well generally the book book the episodes can 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: be talking about people who are fascists who then get 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: in defend boys techics. Right, last episode we talked about 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: the fem fast, people who are fem boys who they 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: get into fascism. Now we're talking about the fascists who 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: now get into fend boys. Um. But before we get 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: real into that, I think it's gonna I think it 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: would be helpful to get a bit more into what 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: these online communities were like in the um. Now, all 18 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: the sympos like a combination of what I've gleaned from reviews, 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: direct messages, my own pulling up of old like four 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: Chuna read it threads. It may not necessarily reflect your 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: on experiences perfectly. What is the most in depth I 22 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: can do on an audio only medium. Um, some won't 23 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: be thrilled about this, but we do need to discuss 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: traps um at their place within the online community at 25 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: the time. UM, which means we must divine, which means 26 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: before we first must to find another term for the 27 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: blissfully unaware. So really heartbreaking because when I was a child, 28 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: Garrison trap was just a house where you hit your drugs. 29 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: It is it is not a trap house. This is 30 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: a different, different, different type of track. This is, this 31 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: is this is before trap house turned into a podcast. Yeah, 32 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: and people didn't know what a trap house was. Great 33 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: heartbreaking the term, but the term trap is were using 34 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: it here UM, at least on the internet, originates in 35 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: the in the early two thousand's on image boards UM 36 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: specifically for June UM and it it got to be 37 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: as it as it got more populous, to term got 38 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: more kind of widely recognized as a slur specifically usually 39 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: a slur against trans women UM or a slur for 40 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: like any like feminine presenting a person who was a 41 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: signed mail at birth. So it's it's it's use and 42 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: origins at least when the Internet comes from people posting 43 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: pictures usually from anime very like feminine looking boys, um, 44 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: alongside the meme of Admiral Akbar saying it's a trap. Right, 45 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: So this this is this is how this idea of 46 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: the trap kind of started, at least online. I talked 47 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: with some like other trans friends of mine. They say 48 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: that it definitely they in their opinion, they remember it 49 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: being a term even before the two thousands on the Internet, 50 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: of being kind of more of a slur towards trans women. Um. 51 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: I can't find any kind of stuff online about that 52 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: specific angle, but the term the term may be older 53 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: than that offline, but at least the online use of 54 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: it really comes from the Admiral Actbar meme. UM. So 55 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: of course, the it's a trap idea kind of implies 56 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: some form of deceptions at play, right with these drawings 57 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 1: that are pure feminine but may actually be depicting adolescent 58 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: males or you know, worse, trans sexuals right woo, very scary. Um. 59 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: So this this soon got transferred over from being applied 60 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: to anime drawings to being applied to pictures and then 61 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: in person encounters of real fem boys or trans people. Um. 62 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: So you know, it's as in like if you found 63 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: someone that looks female enough, as the mean would go, 64 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: um if to be attractive, and later found out that 65 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: they were actually a boy or they were a trans woman. 66 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: The idea was that, like, you were deceived. Thus you 67 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: must be on the lookout for any kind of potential 68 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: attractiveness of fem boys or trans women or else you 69 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: two might be trapped. Um. So this again, this is 70 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: it's it's it's often it's a very transphobic, and it's 71 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: like it's comparing fem boys to trans women because these 72 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: are not the same thing. Um. Obviously there's is very 73 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: very hashtag problematic for a lot of reasons. Um. But 74 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: there's also the the meme the of our traps gay, 75 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: which is referring to a kind of like satirical debate 76 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: around whether or not it's gay defined a femboy, a 77 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: male cross stresser, or even a trans woman attractive. Um. 78 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: Now the meme does riff on the whole like fellas 79 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: is it gay? Thing? Um? And gee whiz am I 80 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: glad the fellas meme has surpassed the R traps gay meme. Uh. 81 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: Obviously obviously, not only is the R traps gay thing, 82 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: pretty homophobic and transphobic. Um. It's also tied to a 83 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: lot of like real world violence against trans women by men, 84 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: all of the trans panic defense, right, the whole, the whole, 85 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: the whole trap idea kind of does tie into the 86 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: transpanic defense. A lot of you know, men who claim 87 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: they simply had to attack or killed trans women once 88 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: they found out that that she had a dick, right, 89 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: or maybe used to have a dick, not even anymore, 90 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: or it doesn't dove a matter more commonly or common 91 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: called the trans panic defense. Yeah, yeah, so, and like 92 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: the mere thought of that was so scary that they 93 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: just they used the transplanic defense in court when violence 94 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: against trans women is enacted. Now, obviously this is also 95 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: much more attacks against trans women in this vein are 96 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: much more common on trans women of color than than 97 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: than white trans woman. That's another that's another important thing 98 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: to mention. But circling back to fourtune Nazis and fem 99 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: boys in the in the two thousands and tens, trap 100 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: was almost like a badge of honor and self descriptor 101 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: for many fem boys as well, like being able to 102 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: trap or like you know, pass for a woman while 103 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: having a dick was like the highest level of fem 104 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: boy nous. It was like it was like top shelf 105 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: femboy was being because was being able to to achieve 106 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: this feat. Um. Usually this was you know, for the 107 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: purposes of taking like lewd pictures of yourself and then 108 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: having them be you know, well liked or spread across 109 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: online forums. UM. In my interviews with people from these 110 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: online spaces longer than I've been around, UM, it was 111 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: it was like described to me by them that being 112 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: like fem boys are just trying to look feminine, whereas 113 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: traps are really trying to look like girls. And that 114 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: is kind of like the distinction in these in these 115 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: places at the time. UM. Now, you know, all while 116 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: calling yourself trans was heavily discouraged and ridiculed. Um in 117 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven, you know, four chun it was 118 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was hard to be it 119 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: was hard to even be openly gay, like, let alone transgender. 120 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: So but being self described as the trap was much 121 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: more accepted. So a lot of people would actually self 122 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: describe as this or want to be self described as this, 123 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: like want to be at the point where they feel 124 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: like they could say this, um, and it's it's interesting. 125 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: It's like a lot of a lot of the attraction 126 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: to traps um was in a lot of ways genuine, 127 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: but also all wrapped in this like joking, ironic kind 128 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: of exterior being like, oh, it's all like it it's 129 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: all like a bit that we're that we're all in 130 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: on the joke for right that that's kind of this 131 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: was explained away. Another quote from the interviews is like quote, 132 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: if you actually admitted to being actually actually romantically attracted 133 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: to traps or femboys, you would be heavily ostracized. People 134 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: would say things like, oh my god, you actually did it, 135 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: like you actually did the thing um, because it is 136 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: it is. It was like wrapped in this sense of 137 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: of of of like irony and and and any hint 138 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: of sincere attraction was masked in this like ironic joke 139 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: like facade. So at this point four chan is basically 140 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: an amateur porn filled sesspool of anime, h gaming, edgy jokes, 141 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: and increasingly bad politics, with pole really taking the shape 142 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: of like the Nazi machine that it is today. So 143 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: close proximity and probability is all it's necessary to make 144 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: these racist and Fen boys have this you know, uncomfortable 145 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: awakening once they start seeing a whole bunch of pictures 146 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: with people's dicks wearing like made outfits. Um So, with 147 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: with all these like edgy, ironic and not so ironic jokes, 148 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: the racists populating these chans forums, online spaces, it's only 149 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: a matter of time before they get exposed to boys 150 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: posing in Japanese tennis skirts and pink wigs, which helps 151 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: create this infinity loop idea of like FEN boys to 152 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: get into racism and then fascism, and then and fascists 153 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: who discover they like dick girls and when boys were addresses, 154 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: and then it's it's because they're because these things are 155 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: happening right next to each other. It's this whole phenomenon 156 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: of self contradiction that just keeps itself going. So we 157 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: we were now we were now done this section, thankfully, 158 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: um I did not want to get into having to 159 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: talk about all that stuff because I know it's not 160 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: people don't like talking about it. It's pretty, it's pretty. 161 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: It's plays on a whole bunch of extremely like transphobic 162 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: like tropes, but it is it is a big part 163 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: of this this this kind of phenomenon. Um. So now 164 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: we're going to next part, which is in cells gamer 165 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: gate and anti feminism. So I I'm I'm not going 166 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: to focus a lot on the idea of repressed queerness here, right, 167 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: the idea of like raging homophopes being secretly gay, because 168 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: I think that idea gets a little too much attention 169 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: when we talk about this sort of thing. Now, don't 170 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: get me wrong, this absolutely does happen, but I generally 171 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: view sexuality, gender identity, and gender expression as much more 172 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: fluid attributes, even among people who consider themselves as systems straight. 173 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: So I I don't like defaulting to this like explainer 174 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: of being like, oh they're homophobic, that means they're secretly gay, 175 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: and like that's I think that's kind of lazy and stupid. 176 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: But when when when we're talking about the curious case 177 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: of Nazi cowboys, most individuals involved not only identify as 178 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: straight and sis gender, but are also very homophobic and 179 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: very transphobic despite their overly like queer behavior, because it 180 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: is it is like queer and like the original sense 181 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: of the word. Um, And I think I think there's 182 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: much more interesting ways to analyze this beyond the repressed 183 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: gay trope. We've already we've already already are talked about 184 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: some femboys and femboy appreciators adopting reactionary and conservative social 185 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: beliefs to fit into the larger culture around four Chune 186 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: and parts of the online gaming community to find this 187 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: sense of belonging and you know, shared shared community among 188 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: other people. But in order for the fascist femboy to 189 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: be such a lasting meme and trope in and of itself, 190 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:14,599 Speaker 1: in my mind, there needs to be a bit of 191 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: a stronger justification for the inherent contradictions beyond just finding 192 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: community itself. And we will we'll talk about that when 193 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: we come back from from from our break. Here's here's 194 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: some ads that that are hopefully about how you two 195 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: can go on Amazon dot com and buy a made outfit. 196 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: And we're back. Okay, we're going to talk about in cells, um, 197 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: one of one of my Yeah it's uh okay, um 198 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: in cells or like can voluntarily celibate people whatever I 199 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: used to. People who are listening to this know what 200 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: in cells are. Um. But the insel movement gained traction 201 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: in the mid twenty teens alongside gamer Gate and the 202 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: growing kind of anti feminist and alongside of mass shooting 203 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: probably there was. There was There was also the Toronto 204 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: attack when the install round over people in that van. 205 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: There's been multiple mass acts of islands tied to the 206 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: in cell idea. And how they A lot of us 207 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: just call them horny isis I've never heard anyone call 208 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: them that before. Well they are, I mean immediately Also 209 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: this is This is also the same period where just 210 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: isis is on Twitter, so they share where I really 211 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: want Isis to chime in on the Will Smith to 212 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: face No you don't like I would love here. I'm 213 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: waiting for the Taliban's take. No no, no, no no. 214 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: It is violet against his violence, comedians, his violent comedians 215 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: justified the Taliban weighs in at six Taliban are you 216 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: could get the Taliban arguing with isis K. By god, 217 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: it could be done. What a what a what a 218 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: better world? That especially if Trump was still on Twitter 219 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: and commdiate. Oh god, that would have been so funny. 220 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: If Trump had been around on Twitter too. It's the 221 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: only time I've missed him, just like, oh yeah, yeah, 222 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: that would have been that. That would have been the 223 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: good ship anyway. Um, yeah, and cells there. It's a 224 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: pretty obtensibly violent movement because it's it's all about making 225 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: young men disenfranchised about their future, right. It's this fatalistic 226 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: idea that they were promised things and now those promises 227 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: are no longer being kept by society, so you are 228 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: kind of doomed to live a pathetic life forever. Right. 229 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: So it is a very fatalist idea that really kind 230 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: of encourages acts of violence. Um But the in the 231 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: moment was gaining traction around this whole time, right right 232 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: beside gammer Gate and the growing antifeminist movement, And I 233 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: think the key to putting this puzzle together is in 234 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: the hatred and resentment of women itself, um as like 235 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: a thing. I think think this is actually a key 236 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: part of why the femboy and femboy fascist thing kind 237 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: of caught on. Most of the loose organizing of these 238 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: movements were happening on four Chan and Reddit right eventually 239 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: eventually discord as well. These were the same places that 240 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: were home to the anime posting femboy amateur porn community, 241 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: and one of the most common viewpoints at the time 242 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: was that feminism is ruining women, right, It's it's it's 243 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: disrupting the natural patriarchal order that many boys were taught existed, 244 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, with promises of girlfriends and wives that are 245 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: like rightfully there's as some kind of like obligation. Yeah, 246 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: I mean this is when we talked about like promise 247 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: people being men being promised women were generally talking about 248 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: like the way in which fiction kind of complicitly promises 249 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: women as as a reward for heroic orgy. It's just 250 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: being good. It's like it's it's it's specifically like a 251 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: cultural idea that is probably the best example of this. 252 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: Star Wars, Luke Skywalker becomes a hero and gets to 253 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: gets to kiss his sister, you know, yes, which is 254 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: just think which is the driving driving motivation of many 255 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: many in sales said they took in one day because 256 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: their sister. Thank thank you Robert for that for that 257 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: cistinct analysis. I used to I used to be a 258 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: film's reviewer, Garrison. So like, if you're taught and raised 259 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: like thinking that something like this exists, right like this, 260 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: this this this correct patriarchal order, like it's like it's 261 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: it's it's almost it's almost like this like righteous truth. Um, 262 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: and you if you then discover they're like, that's kind 263 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: of a lie, and that like women are actually individuals 264 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: with value not tied to the ownership by a man. 265 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: Um Some men have a very very unhealthy, often violatile 266 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: reaction to this realization or confrontation, and so some people 267 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: then decide to do mass shootings. Some people, uh kill people, 268 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: some people just do you know, some people might just 269 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: do you know, like um intimate partner violence, right, say 270 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: that they do get a partner at some point and 271 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: it's not going the way they want and they just 272 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: become abusive. Right. So there's a whole bunch of ways 273 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: this this type of thing can manifest. Um. So, faced 274 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: with the work of like not being a dick and 275 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: trying to combat this ingrained misogyny and then having to 276 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: like actually put effort into being attractive and desired, a 277 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: lot of men instead opts to either like attack outwards 278 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: or withdrawal inwards, and sometimes the mix of both. So 279 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: with the with the fascist from boy thing, a lot 280 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: of this is like withdrawing in words, right, A lot 281 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: of these people are too introverted and to kind of 282 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: cowardly to actually do like a mass shooting, which is 283 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: like that's that's that's that's probably good. Um. But then 284 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: with them and drawing in words, we're gonna it's kind 285 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: of manifest in this in this in this different way. 286 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: So when dealing with this almost like misogynistic nihilism, a 287 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: lot of dudes really lost hope in the prospect of 288 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: a future romance with women. So instead of putting in 289 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: effort to adjust their personality, adjust their behavior, change the partrict, 290 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: but change their patriarchal outlook and improve their physical appearance, 291 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: many guys inside will retreat to their online communities full 292 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: of other guys facing similar issues. All Right, it's easier 293 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: to live in front of a screen and I have 294 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: to face other humans in person. These these people don't 295 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: really have much substantial experience in real life interacting with 296 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: the opposite gender. Um. So these perhaps you know, these 297 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: these so called straight guys that were drawn to fend 298 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: boys also may have had just had like bad experiences 299 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: with women. They may have faced rejection, and that rejection 300 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: may have really brought them down. Um, And then they 301 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: assume that they're always going to be rejected by women 302 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: because of like a few bad experiences and the kind 303 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: of guys who are on these chans forums and Reddit 304 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: online gaming. They tend to be generally more socially outcast, 305 00:16:55,640 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: people who aren't necessarily super physically naturally like attract of 306 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: the masculine right you have like people everyone, almost everyone 307 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: can be attractive. You just have to like put in 308 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: work if you if you just never do that, Like 309 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: a a lot of boys are never taught how to 310 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: actually make themselves look good, so they're just kind of 311 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: like just like, like attractive isn't much like they if 312 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: you go on these in cell forms, they'll focus a 313 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 1: lot on like, well I have you know, there's these 314 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: folds in the creases of my eyes, or like the 315 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: way that my nose is very physically impossible for a 316 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: woman to be into me. And it's like now like 317 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: more than people Like there's all sorts of different preferences 318 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: people have for physical things, but overall, like the number 319 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: one thing you can do to be attractive is to 320 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: be a person that people like be confident their life 321 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: if you have like have a good personality, like learn 322 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: how to do a variety of things and just like 323 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: have have a life. A lot of people like that 324 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: seems neat They think that they can achieve you know, 325 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: they think that women should flock to them, even if 326 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: they put in like no effort at all, Right, they 327 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: just do what they're doing. They feel like why is 328 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: this not working or the effort they put in. It's 329 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: like Ellie again, Eliot Rodgers the perfect example of these 330 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: kind of people. Like the effort that he put in 331 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: was he like made his dad buy him a really 332 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: nice car and he dressed in expensive clothing. And it's like, well, 333 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: that's actually very few people are attracted to that. And yes, 334 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: the people who are attracted solely to someone having a 335 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: nice car and clothing probably really weird specific like physical things. 336 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: They're also only looking for um. But that's because you 337 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: were like like that, that's not making yourself attractive as 338 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: opposed to I don't know, learning how to cook or 339 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: or learning you know, a foreign language, or you know, 340 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: being an emotionally available person who's not purely viewing relationships 341 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: into transactional nature where you're you're paying for sex by 342 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: being friendly, you know, but you know in a way. 343 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: But you know, what's easier than doing all that is 344 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: just hating women. That is, that's a much easier to 345 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: think of these these people to do default to this. 346 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: So the Internet taught me one thing. It's that it's 347 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: quite easy to hate women. So while these like all 348 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: right hell holes like four Chune um and you know 349 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: read it online gaming right, online gaming is full of misogyny, um, 350 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: all these all these places like really hate like actual women. 351 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: It's they still heavily fetish size femininity, right, It's still 352 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: viewed as this like glorious, like like thing that's put 353 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: put put put put put on a pedestal, even though 354 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: they hate like actual women themselves. So feminine dudes can 355 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: be fem boys or cause play anime to garner attention 356 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: or social praise, you know, amidst some you know standard 357 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: you know, like people like oh your faguets, you're disgusting comments, 358 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: But you can they can. They can still like cause 359 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: play and dress up and post pictures without being totally 360 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: shunned by their fellow edgy all writers because it's kind 361 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: of funny and some of them may actually find it cute, 362 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: even even though they may not admit it. Uh. Fem 363 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: boys often do have you know, I generally think cute 364 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: and effeminate features they can in For these people, a 365 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: big part of the goal is to like trick the 366 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: brain into thinking that you're just looking at a girl, 367 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: um that might just so happen to have a penis. 368 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 1: So therefore, when like viewing these pictures, these guys are 369 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: also like getting a sense of familiarity with girl like imagery, 370 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: um while thinking that like they also might have a 371 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: shot and with interacting with this individual because they don't 372 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: have a vagina, So that makes it makes interacting with 373 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: them like easier because there's like more things to relate to. 374 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: I guess, um, you would see a lot of like 375 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: role playing and like role playing of sexting and like 376 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: role playing of dating girls through this fem boy framework 377 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: just actually a really common occurrence as like and it 378 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: was it was explained as like it's like a sort 379 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: of practice for imagining their future of dating women. It 380 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: was like it was like they're doing this to like 381 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: practice interacting with women. Um, so they're just gonna be 382 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: role playing dating fem boys whild being Nazis, but they're 383 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: doing it so that it's like a practice so that 384 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: they will be better at dating women in the future. 385 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: It's like so that that's that's actually a really common 386 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: thing um or like yeah, like sexting as as as like, yeah, 387 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm just doing this for practice, Like I'm not doing 388 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: this so that I will be good at sexting in 389 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: the future, just doing it with these fem boys on 390 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: you know, discord on for Chad whatever. Um, because like 391 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: all of like the whole femboy thing is still dealing 392 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: with the patriarchal views of beauty. Right. It's it's femininity 393 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: as the sort of performance put on for the enjoyment 394 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: of others. And because it's about that, like appreciating femininity itself, 395 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: it's seen it's a lot safer than full on homosexual attraction, 396 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: right because it's it's allowed if if you're if you 397 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: can appreciate the femininity, then that's allowed to propagate despite 398 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: also kind of being degenerate because the person generally fem 399 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: boys usually self ideas male. But because it's wrapped in 400 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: this feminine package, it's allowed to be appreciated. Um. And 401 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: for the people that did eventually come to terms with 402 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: their queerness, the four Chan femboie thing allowed them to 403 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: safely dip their toes into exploring how like exploring homosexuality, bisexuality, 404 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: exploring like gender bending without like abandoning the typical masculine 405 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: feminine rules that were kind of raised to be comfortable with. Right, 406 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: it's still in the regular masculine feminine like rule sets, 407 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: but it's approachable because it's allowed to be done through 408 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: this both both this like ironic joke, but then also 409 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: it's still it's still based off these patriarchal views of 410 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: feminine beauty. So it's it's it's it's a weird thing. Um, 411 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: it's it's that's a it's the other part of it 412 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: that I like to explain to people because you're like, oh, 413 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: that is like trying to picture fascists fake dating each 414 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: other online so that they'll be better at dating women 415 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: in the future. It's just a very absurd idea. It's 416 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: I it's fair. I'm actually fine with this, but like 417 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: it makes like it makes sense, like it like it, 418 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: like I understand it, and you can like yeah, I 419 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: get it. Um. And it did help a lot of 420 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: people eventually realize maybe I'm not the straightest stick in 421 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: the shed, or maybe not the straightest stick in the fascies. Yeah. 422 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: I mean everyone needs a safe space to figure out 423 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: what they are, and I guess that even includes fascists 424 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: maybe because like not because I want fascists to be fascists, 425 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: but because maybe some of them, through this weird role 426 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: playing role will like get over some stuff absolutely recognize that, like, oh, 427 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: maybe maybe I'm just like gay and I need to 428 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: like work on myself, like I'm I'm maybe I've been 429 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: barking up the wrong tree with all this Nazi stuff. Yeah, 430 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: because amidst like the gamer Gate, in the height of 431 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: the insult era, these guys felt more comfortable exploring their 432 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: eagining sexuality in these male dominated online spaces right there. 433 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: It's easier to relate to other males when they're when 434 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: they're all like growing up, coming of age, dealing with 435 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: dealing with these like feelings of it like abandonment, loneliness. 436 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: Right they do this in these male spaces. They feel 437 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: a lot safer to express themselves, um, you know what, 438 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: whether or not they're full of fascists or like other 439 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: people who are like very like reactionary, because at least 440 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: they can understand male desire um and that's they can 441 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: relate to that and internect with people who are you know, 442 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: they they can eat innoct easier with people with dicks 443 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: well wrapped in this feminine package, which is so much 444 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: easier than the much more scary and much more elusive 445 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: of like females out there. Right, It's it's that that's 446 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: kind of the framework that this was propagated through. It's 447 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: it's it's really interesting that it's like you have these 448 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: people who like they're they're like they're they're they're Transmisogyny 449 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: is such that like they they they've escalated to a 450 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: point where it circles back or yes, it is. It 451 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: is so intense. It is such a it's there's so 452 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: much going on. Yeah, yeah, it's like it's like it 453 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: becomes this like like I don't know, it becomes like 454 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: the fact that it's like conceptually impossible for them for 455 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: just like a woman to have a dick like that 456 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: has like circled back around and just completely come to 457 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: define how they have gender in such a way that 458 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: someone who is like just is performing gender like as 459 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: a woman, like to the extent that like they're trying 460 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: to like they're they're trying to have people use like 461 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: to trancellors against them. Yeah, it's it's an interesting there's 462 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: there's there's so much going on because yeah, it's routed 463 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: in a whole bunch of it's people exploring gender in 464 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: this weird way. Well also like relying on heavily like misogynistic, 465 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: trans misogynistic, homophobic kind of ideas. But it's it's also 466 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: it's like it's very queer in this and like the 467 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: way in the way they're going about it, because it's 468 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of like self it's a whole bunch 469 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: of like self justification. It's a it's a whole bunch 470 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: of like stuff around like what they view as feminine, 471 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: what they views masculine, what what they view like being 472 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: a woman means, um it is it is, it is. Uh, 473 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: it's it's a lot yeah, like as as like a 474 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: more as like a gender queer trans person. I like, 475 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: I like look at them go through all this work, 476 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: and like, wow, they could have bypassed a whole bunch 477 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: of bullshit if they just like less of a dick, 478 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: Like if they're just less of if they work as 479 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: horrible people, they could have experienced these same things. But again, 480 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: like they were, they're in their own isolated communities, they're 481 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: they're dealing with these same ingredients just from this weird 482 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: backwards way. So like it's it's obviously very transphoblic and 483 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: in a lot of senses, but a lot of a 484 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: lot of these people eventually realized, oh maybe I've actually trends. 485 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: So it's this. It's like, I don't know, it's obviously 486 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: not great in a lot of ways, but I don't 487 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: know how to discuss it when saying like, yes, it's 488 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: obviously not great for how like trans mistagnistic it is, 489 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: but they're all working through some stuff. Yeah, well, you know, 490 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: I don't want The one thing I will say about 491 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: this is like, yeah, like if kids were actually allowed 492 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: to be queer normally, like this ship mostly would not happen, 493 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: Like you, you wouldn't get so many people who get 494 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: locked in these like who who are queer? Who get 495 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: locked into these spaces? But then also like the only 496 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: way that they could express themselves in these like narrow, 497 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: isolated wpping spaces is to like this ship or they're 498 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: into the like just let people express themselves normally, and 499 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: this this you can deny the fascist recruiting ground Like yeah, 500 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's interesting, Like it's like when all 501 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: all these people are looking at interacting with them boys, 502 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: I think a lot of those is why they they 503 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: were able to play with these ingredients. Is that they 504 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: did not experience the same like anxiety or like heightened 505 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: stakes or negative or like negative connotations in their mind 506 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: that that they normally do when thinking about what men 507 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: because women are just so other so especially like if 508 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: you can rationalize this, this attraction, defend boys are simply 509 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: a prelude to dating like quote like real women in 510 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: whatever like fantasy cottage core future they might imagine, then 511 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: this idea is a way more approachable. You're gonna need 512 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: to explain cottage core for the I am not I 513 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: already have we have we we are having an add break, 514 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: I still in brief it is this like return to 515 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: tradition obsession you see among like chunks of the far 516 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: right who are obsessed with the idea that if they 517 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: if culture was the way it was in the fifties 518 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: or in like the they would live on they would 519 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: live on a small farm with their wife and children 520 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: who would be utterly submissive to them, and everything would 521 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: be perfect. But like, the only thing in between them 522 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: and happiness is that they're not able to live in 523 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: a in a in a small like farm with a 524 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: woman who they essentially own, that the gist. I will 525 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: say a lot of cottage course are also used by 526 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: liberals and people on the left as well, just as 527 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: like an aesthetic thing, we all want to live on 528 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: a small farm in the world. Think that makes it 529 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: The cottage core that we're talking about is specifically the 530 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: idea of I want to own a woman and and 531 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: own my children and have like no no power capable 532 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: of like stopping me from yeah whatever, because like cottage, cottage, 533 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: corn TikTok is pretty sanitized and pretty much like more 534 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: of an aesthetic thing, less tied to those patriarchal structures. 535 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: But anyway, like everything we're talking about, there's the version 536 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: that's Nazis, and there's the version that's, like, boy, it 537 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: sucks living in a four thousand dollar a month apartment 538 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: in New York City that I share with nine people. 539 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: I sure would like to live on a cottage in 540 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: the woods. Anyway, speaking of living a coteage in these woods, Um, 541 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: if you buy these products, it'll get you closer to 542 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: your college core lifestyle. So give it away. Sponsored entirely 543 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: by the concept of big cottage, big cottage, the cottage 544 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: industrial complex. All right, we are back, and now we're 545 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: talking about the point of the Nazi cat boy debate 546 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: that everyone I think who is familiar with the topic 547 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: knew was coming. No, no breakdown of Nazi cat boys 548 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: and the Nazi catboy whenomenon is complete without talking about 549 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: Nick Flintez and Catboy Cammy. So Nick flintes, Yeah, this 550 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: is uh, this is this is part of the part 551 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: of the show that that everyone's been waiting for. Um. 552 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: I don't know that most people would know to be 553 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: waiting for this, but broadly recognized by our audience. So 554 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: in short, if George Lincoln Rockwell has the permanent body 555 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: of a seventeen year old boy, UM, that would that's 556 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: Nick Flintest as many if you know. Nick Fointest is 557 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: a white nationalist livestreamer, political activist that runs the Fascist 558 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: America First organization. UH. He's known for fostering a farther 559 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: right conservative base than say Ben Shapiro or Turning Point 560 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: USA UM, and has pulled stunts like sending his fans 561 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: called gropers to Turning Point USA events to take over 562 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: the Q and A sections and basically asked Charlie Kirk 563 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: why he isn't more fascist? Um? Yeah, And so he 564 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: runs this whole organization mostly known by doing his daily 565 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: lives streams. He's been doing this since he's like sixteen 566 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: or seventeen years old. Fucking nonsense. Um. And it's kind 567 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: of a running joke or widely acknowledged secret that Nick 568 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: is kind of gay. Um, based on the way he 569 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: talks about women, and based on what he said about 570 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: his own dating history and snide comments from fellow home 571 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: homophobic Nazi friends has led a lot, has led a 572 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 1: lot of people to to this conclusion that Nick may 573 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: not be again the straightest stick in the fascists. Um, 574 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you one. And as as 575 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: a significant contributing factor to this, like question of nick sexuality, um, 576 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: is due to his catboy arc. Um. So so this 577 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: this arc begins in January, um, finally giving our audience 578 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: the important, important news. This is what you need to 579 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: know people. That month, Nick created a catboy themed channel 580 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: in his own America first Discord server with Nick, with 581 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: Nick messaging post catboys in here, please with with weird 582 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: capitalizations throughout the throughout the thing. So Nick cheered on 583 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: along with other people, posting pictures of various catboys from 584 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: pop culture and cat boy edits of Nick Frantez himself. 585 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: Um One America first server user posted cat boys are 586 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: trad and w means like traditional list in kind of 587 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: the sense that like Nazis are traditionalist. That's that's what 588 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: that person is saying. He also posted very funny. He 589 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: also posted cat boys were like cath boys. Oh God, 590 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: so like again, Yeah, so that's that's that's the that's 591 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: the joke. I'm lucy, You're you're you're out of control 592 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: right now. This is it is so I've I've looked 593 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: through this discord. He's arguing, this isn't very funny. I've 594 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: looked through this discord server multiple times for the for 595 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: the screenshots of when you have the cathboy channel, and 596 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: it always makes me happy. It is. It's one of 597 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: the most funny things I've ever seen. Yeah, as as 598 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: your friend, I'm always warring between wanting you to be 599 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: happy and worried that this is a cry for help, 600 00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: but please continue. Eventually, Nick faced some pushback from inside 601 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: the server for fostering degeneracy, um with with others with 602 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: with others defending the catboy channel by saying, brother we 603 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: love is Christian amazing standing See this is this is, 604 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: this is exactly, this is the good ship. This is 605 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: what we've been building towards as a civilization. Right there, 606 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: baby people, other people, other people defended the Catboy channel 607 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: by saying, women don't respect Christianity, your tribes. Thought y 608 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: always leaks out eventually. Good God, Yes, that's that's that's 609 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: the good stuff. I got. I got no comment, just 610 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: just perfect thank you. But but because Nick is fundamentally 611 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: a coward, he did cave under pressure and deleted the 612 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: catboy channel. Um, and we lost. I think the American 613 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: First movement today could be so different if he kept 614 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: this is. This is why the cause of Americanism is doomed, 615 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: this kind of cowardice. But but but as as we 616 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: will see from Nick, oh absolutely this this whole, this 617 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: whole sections about Nick Wintest being thoroughly cocked. But as 618 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: as we will see, Nick continued to use, um, the 619 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: exact rhetoric I laid out in my in Sales gammer 620 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: Gate and antifeminist section while defending what he calls attraction 621 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: to traps um and we can, of course, we can 622 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: apply this this defense broadly to catboys and from boys. 623 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: As Nick does, Um, I'm going to try to I'm 624 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: going to try to play a video of about about 625 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: Nick Fuentas um our traps gay. Yeah, traps are gay. 626 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: I've always maintained traps are gay. Of course, you have 627 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: stacks with the man. It's gay. There's no getting around. Now. 628 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: Now that's sad. That's said. Look it's gay. I get it. 629 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: I agree. Now that's sad. It's know, we're in times 630 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: where the women are not really meeting their obligations. So 631 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're not. Look, if you have sex 632 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: with the trap, you're game, no doubt about that, and 633 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: you should be ready killed, you should be made fun of. 634 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: But it's a little bit different than if you did 635 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: it like twenty years ago. That's all I'm saying. If 636 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: you in the nineteen sixties, in the nineteen sixties were 637 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: banging a trap, I would say, what's wrong with you? 638 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: Like I would say that now. I would say that now, 639 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: I would say, were you're some kind of sick freak. 640 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: We have all these beautiful girls and they're normal, you know, 641 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: and you have sex with a trap. What's wrong with you? 642 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: But in nineteen it's like, well, it's it's different, it's 643 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: a different circumstance, different options. There's still disavowed, I disavow, 644 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: it's condemned, it's gay, it's all that. But you know, 645 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: it's just different. I think everybody understands that. But I'm 646 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: still listen. Just have to half a little, just have 647 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: to have a little nuance, all right, It's just a 648 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 1: little nuance. Different times, different times, it's I maintain strong disavowal, 649 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: strong disavowal. Do not you not do that. It's gay, 650 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: it's immoral, You're going to hell, and it's weird and 651 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 1: it's grows. Oh my god, what's wrong with you? Female? Yeah, 652 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: I haven't heard that one in a minute, person, I'm upset. 653 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: That was horrible. You'd femoids since the David Sereni days, 654 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: which looks at home if you don't, if you if 655 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: you missed David Serene, you missed the one brief moment 656 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: where the far right was purely funny. That was bad, 657 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: So so be the worst. So yes, being being attracted 658 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: to traps makes makes you gay, according to him, but 659 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: not really, because the female rice isn't carrying their burden 660 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: like it once did back in the sixties. It's like 661 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: back in back in, back in the old days of 662 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties, it's it's like they've like almost gotten 663 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 1: back to the like the I mean, I guess it 664 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: probably still like a sorm, but like the the thing 665 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: you got with fascist sometimes where they were like yeah, 666 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: like I fucked you is but I'm a top so 667 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: it's not gay. It's like like so close, get there. 668 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:14,240 Speaker 1: They're so close, and it's like it's like Roy Cone 669 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: kind of yeah. Yeah. It's like I think I think, 670 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: like I think once we get like just slightly like 671 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: maybe like twenty more years out from like the evangelical 672 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: evangelicalism as I don't know, I mean maybe maybe maybe 673 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: it's resurgen is gonna be like a big enough heyday thing. 674 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: But it's like I think, if you had like twenty 675 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: years with the right wasn't completely dominated by a sort 676 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: of evangelical homophobia, like I think you would just get 677 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: back there and well, we're already on that way. And 678 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: it's but the Nick Funt has kept saga does not 679 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: stop here. No no, no, no, no, no, I am 680 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: It is funny maybe the wrong word, but fascinating that 681 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: we are heading inevitably barreling towards this future where simultaneously, 682 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: homophobia is still a massive part of conservative politics, and 683 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,720 Speaker 1: conservatives are gay as hell. Like that's that's absolutely something 684 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: where we are speeding towards like a drunken family on 685 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: the back of a four wheeler about to break all 686 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: of their necks at once and crash in the woods. 687 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: So Nick Fuentes love tweeting about cat boys. He didn't 688 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 1: a lot, and for a while, Nick's cat boy jokes 689 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: and like a memory was tolerated under his banner of 690 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: like irony poisoned reactionary comedy. But every ironic joke has 691 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: a stipping point, and that makes that makes enough people 692 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: wonder is this actually ironic? Uh? And for Fuantes, that 693 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: moment came when he live streamed a ten hour date 694 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: with a fellow fascist live streamer who went by the 695 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 1: name cat Boy Camy. Now, first, let's let me explain 696 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 1: who cat Boy Cammy wasn't at the time. Then we'll 697 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: get into the date that we're doing. That that we'll 698 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: get to Nick Quentes's brief altright cancelation. So tour Brooks 699 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: a k a. Cowboy Cammy formerly going under the user 700 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 1: name lolly Socks. So that's fun. Um is an Australian 701 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 1: fascist live streamer who first came to prominence by uploading 702 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: clips of himself harassing users on the popular video chatting site. 703 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: Oh mowgli ogilby. I never know how to say this. 704 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: One moogul little emoguli. People here, people, people will know 705 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. It's this. It's this randomized chatting 706 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 1: app that does video chatting with the randomized users. Oh yeah, 707 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: it's O m E g l E. I never know 708 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: how to say it, but it's this. He would. He 709 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 1: would upload himself videos of him harassing people via via 710 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: this chatting app. Um. In one of them, he dressed 711 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: his up in black face and while brandishing guns and 712 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: trying to he was trying to find like black black 713 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,720 Speaker 1: kids to taunt on this platform. Another one he dressed 714 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: up as a policeman um and kneels and an effigy 715 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: he made likeness of George Floyd. Um, he it's it's 716 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: he is, he is he is pretty gross. Uh he's 717 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: he's he's he's a pretty horrible person. But for a 718 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,240 Speaker 1: long time his bit was dressing up in anime costumes 719 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,879 Speaker 1: and dressing up as a catboy. Uh to then talk 720 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: about like neo Nazi rhetoric, well dressed as a catboy 721 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: and this this was his funny bit that he would do. UM. 722 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: At one point he was streaming like twenty four hours 723 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: a day, UH for ten days for like for the 724 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: for the days and days on end um and he 725 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: was earning thousands of followers in places like US and Russia. 726 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: UH and he became the seventh highest earning streamer on 727 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: d live and d live was a popular live streaming 728 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: platform used by fascists. Um in and so in late 729 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen was when cowboy Camy popped up like in America, 730 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 1: initially catching the attention of Nick Fuentez. Over over the 731 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: course of a few months. UH. He kind of made 732 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: friends with various people in the American far right internet sphere, 733 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: like Milo Richard Spencer Baked Alaska, but but Nick Fuentes 734 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: was his original kind of entry point into this. Nick 735 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: saw Nick saw his videos online and was interested in 736 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: like what he was doing. Uh. Nick said that he 737 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,280 Speaker 1: had a good sense of humor, and he's good looking, 738 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: and demonstrated and demonstrated his repeatability that he's able to 739 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,879 Speaker 1: achieve viral moments and retain a streaming audience. So Nick 740 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: became friends with him because he thought Cowboy Camy would 741 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: be like a growing internet presence. I wanted to kind 742 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: of move his his type of like his type of 743 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: pretty like racist and horrible like joke pranks and tried 744 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: to give them more, give them more of a platform 745 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: to kind of frontline reactionary ideologies. Um. So, when when 746 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: Nick was getting familiar with Cawboy Camy, Cammy on online 747 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: activities were mainly consisting of dressing up as an ANIMI 748 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: cowboy to do random like political debates or live streams 749 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: or show it like anime conventions, to harass people, um 750 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: and doing like various gags and pranks. One of the 751 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 1: most infamous incidents was when he was deep throating a 752 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: massive horse cock dildo hooked up to a bucket of 753 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 1: fake semen. Um. Good, okay, yeah, So in December, in December, 754 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: Catboy Cammy flew from Australia to go visit Garrison. No, 755 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: the semen was fake, it was. It was Oh okay, 756 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,839 Speaker 1: got you it was. It was a massive horse cock 757 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: dildoo hooked up to a bucket of like fake semen. Right, okay, 758 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 1: so just like corn starch and I'm happy. Yeah, if 759 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: we want to go of the recipes later, I'm sure 760 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: we could make that a whole episode, But now I 761 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: know how to make fake come. In December, Catboy Cavy 762 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 1: flew from Australia to go visit Nick Fuentez and then 763 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: just proceeded to live stream the ten hour totally straight 764 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,280 Speaker 1: hangout session with Catboy Camy dressed up as a catboy 765 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,720 Speaker 1: the entire time. I mean, this does sound very straight 766 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 1: to me. They go to go to an arcade, they 767 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: play games together, they get food and milkshakes, they go 768 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 1: clothing shopping and try on matching outfits, um all while 769 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 1: laughing and giggling the entire time. Um well, while uh 770 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 1: well uh while driving and listening to extremely gay pop music. 771 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: Catboy Cammy says to Nick that here reminds them of 772 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: an X. It's great, and by the end of the 773 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: ten hour stream, it's implied that they it's it's the 774 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: end of stream, it's implied that they share a room 775 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: for the night. Um sure, I'm sure they did. And 776 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: it's ten hours of pure horrible Nazi flirting. And it's 777 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 1: it's pretty. It's it's a thing, it exists. Um. But 778 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: as so as news and details of the live stream 779 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 1: UH started to circulate. A wave of a wave of 780 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 1: infighting among the alt right and the gropers spawned some 781 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 1: amazing articles and headlines from neo nazi news sites. Uh. 782 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: There's a headline from the Daily Stormer called the Growing 783 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,800 Speaker 1: for Revolution is canceled after Nick Fuentes reveals to be 784 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 1: a catboy and gave Hayett. It's just pretty pretty astonishing. Yeah, 785 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: that sounds that sounds about right. And other other great headlines. 786 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 1: We have a Fuentes disavows catboy after a pressure from 787 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 1: trad news. If you're if you're sitting down and for 788 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 1: your movement that you want to take over the government 789 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: typing down, Fuentes disavows cat boy. Perhaps you need to 790 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: think about some things. We got another headline as catboy 791 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,840 Speaker 1: Candy versus Richard Spencer because Richard Spencer trying to cancel 792 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 1: Nick for this because Nick was getting more popular than him. Um. 793 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: And we have then another great headline which is a 794 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: Nick Fuentess catboy BFF is a mockery to his sexuality. Anyway, 795 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's pretty good. There's this this great this 796 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: is this this great. UM. A bit from one of 797 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: these articles which, which, which, which which? I'll quote. So 798 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,800 Speaker 1: it starts to start off by saying, is Nick Fuentes 799 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: attracted to women? If you trusted the plan, you wouldn't 800 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,399 Speaker 1: ask such questions. I will say that I don't think 801 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: the ten hour live stream helps King Nick of the Grappers. 802 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: At the moment, he had a good thing going. We're 803 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: trying to promote a more Christian and normal presenting nationalist 804 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: movement and was getting a lot of traction until he 805 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: ruined his image by associating it with this. None of 806 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: his various enemies did this to him either. He did 807 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:39,320 Speaker 1: it entirely to himself. So yeah, um, but like, obviously, 808 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 1: like the point of this is not to like, not 809 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 1: to like put Nick Fuentez's sexuality on blast, Like I do, 810 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 1: do not care one way or the other. Um, it's 811 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 1: not a problem. The problem isn't is that The problem 812 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: isn't that Nick may find cat boys incredibly hot. Uh, 813 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: But the problem is that he's like a Nazi and 814 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 1: stuff and calls for the extermination of gay people while 815 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 1: also doing all of this ship. Um, and you know, 816 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: Nick Nick still maintains that he isn't gay and gay 817 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 1: people should be exiled from society and he would never 818 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 1: associate with homosexuals. Blah blah blah blah blah. Um. All 819 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 1: while doing all this incredibly straight behavior. Um. Uh for 820 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 1: up on Catboy Cammy. Later in Catboy Camy made multiple 821 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: appearances that Trump rallies and various other political events, going 822 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: viral multiple times for screaming incredibly racist, anti Semitic, and 823 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 1: openly fascist rants. Um. You probably saw footage of Catboy 824 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 1: Cammy in Um. He was just just he was just 825 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: he was just dressed as like a regular person. But 826 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 1: he there was a few clips of him at Trump 827 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 1: rallies that went very very viral. Um. And Nick even 828 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: U disowned disavowed Catboy Camy for bad optics. Uh. During 829 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 1: during during these incredibly racist rants, he would he would 830 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,320 Speaker 1: go on at at at Trump rallies. Uh. Um. And 831 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 1: then of course we have America America First and UH 832 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: and and Nick Fuentez then being you know, an escalating 833 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: part of the protests in d C leading to January six. Um, 834 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 1: we have the person alleged to have stolen Nancy Polosi's 835 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 1: laptop being in those America First discord servers and UH 836 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,439 Speaker 1: and grooming young boys by dressing up as a cat girl. 837 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 1: Um so all part of all part of we This 838 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 1: will get talked about later in like these articles and stuff. 839 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: This has not been talked about. Some people already know 840 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,399 Speaker 1: about it. But but yes, um so it's all part 841 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,959 Speaker 1: of this same like Nick Fuentez catboy sect of things, 842 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: of these these like people who who call themselves tread 843 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: cats who then do all this weird cat boy shit. 844 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: And yes, the the person who stolen people laptop who 845 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 1: was like an open Nazi, um was was grooming like 846 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: miners on on discord by dressing up this cat girl, 847 00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: by by dressing up with a cat girl. Um. Yeah, 848 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: So there's a whole bunch of this, this whole sphere 849 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 1: of stuff. You can find some incredibly dark dark corners. Um. 850 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: But nowadays, uh, in the Year of Our Lord, Uh, 851 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 1: fem boys are way more of like it's like generally 852 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 1: acknowledged to be like a kind of like a leftist 853 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 1: like communist thing almost um like And and I think 854 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,360 Speaker 1: the reason why this debate got so, I think the 855 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 1: reason why the fascist like the fascist femboy debate got 856 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 1: so kind of heightened in the past few years, like 857 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,800 Speaker 1: ever since like tumbler band porn, uh, there's been a 858 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 1: migration of tumbloy users onto Twitter, and a part of 859 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 1: part a part of this migration is not sake for 860 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 1: work users and content um, including fem boys and people 861 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 1: who fetishize fem boys and even fetishized racist fem boys. 862 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 1: Moving moving on to Twitter, right, Twitter has become the 863 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 1: new has become the new de facto tumbler in a 864 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: lot of senses. So the past three years, more and 865 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 1: more normalies have been exposed to these types of like 866 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,399 Speaker 1: off the cuff people. Um. Then, of course TikTok has 867 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,919 Speaker 1: sent fem boys into the mainstream because TikTok is also 868 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 1: oh it's not an image board, but it is a 869 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 1: visual medium right where you're posting small videos of yourselves. 870 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: So a lot of a lot of catboy and fenboy 871 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 1: content on TikTok. There's even this horrible article from two 872 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 1: from August by Vice called introducing fem boys the most 873 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 1: wholesome trend on TikTok as if fen boys were invented 874 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 1: in mind boggling article of But yeah, fenboys are now 875 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,800 Speaker 1: much more if you take the Vice article as an example, 876 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,840 Speaker 1: fenboys are now fully mainstreamed. Right, fenboys used to be 877 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 1: a small subculture, but among Gen Z kind of culture 878 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 1: as a whole. Now, fen boys are very popular. They 879 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 1: are they are kind of they are one of one 880 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 1: of like one of like the hot new pokemons to 881 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 1: collect um and I'm gonna Harrison, that's cultural appropriation from millennials. 882 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: You're not allowed to talk about pokemons. I don't, I 883 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 1: don't care. We we own those now. So just just 884 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 1: to talk about like scale of memes here, I have 885 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 1: some Google have some like Google trends um on like 886 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,920 Speaker 1: Nazi cat boy and not see fem boys. Uh, and 887 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:07,320 Speaker 1: we see the mass The biggest, biggest spike in Nazi 888 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 1: femboy is January of one, which makes sense that that's 889 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 1: when I started writing this this script. Actually, um, you 890 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 1: say yeah, for for Google trends got a massive spike 891 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 1: in January one, and it's kind of been decreasing since then, 892 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,759 Speaker 1: but still still like it was. It was like you 893 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 1: would see blips every once in a while, like there's 894 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: a small blip of Nazi fem boys. Seen a small 895 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 1: blip in and then a small blip at the start 896 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 1: of the pandemic in March of because people are alone 897 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 1: and isolated, so they're doing this instead UM, and then yeah, 898 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,840 Speaker 1: January one massive massive spike um the same thing with 899 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 1: a very similar to racist fem Boy. It's basically the 900 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,439 Speaker 1: same exact trajectory. We do get a pretty big spike 901 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 1: and racist fem boy in June of UM, and then 902 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 1: another big spike of actually of November one is the 903 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 1: highest is the highest searches for racist em boy. So 904 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 1: it's still very much an ongoing meme of like a 905 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 1: thing I'll being like, yeah, femboys are pretty racist. It's 906 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: still completely completely ongoing. Oh thank god, yeah it is. 907 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,919 Speaker 1: It's don't worries, it's not. It's not a closed case. 908 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,720 Speaker 1: And that's good, Garrison. I was really worried for a second. 909 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 1: No people, people, and this like I think, I think 910 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 1: if you're not extremely online, you probably even like you 911 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,360 Speaker 1: might not know about this, Like this is like this 912 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 1: is an actual discourse on Twitter, Like oh yeah, like 913 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,799 Speaker 1: this there will be like a week We're the only 914 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 1: thing people argue about is whether femboys are inherently racist. 915 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:41,399 Speaker 1: Obviously they're not. Like it's it's so. And the last 916 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 1: thing I'm gonna mention here is enemy is in the 917 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 1: is it the Unicorn riot discord leaks when they leaked 918 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of information from lots of different fascist channels. 919 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,240 Speaker 1: We have over a thousand mentions of cat boys inside 920 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 1: that you know couldn't riot fascist discord leaks Garrison, I 921 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: haven't question for you. Yes, I do you think God 922 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: stays in heaven because he too lives in fear of 923 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 1: what he's created here on earth. So if you want 924 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:13,840 Speaker 1: to have a fun time, you can go to Discord 925 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 1: leaks dot, Unicorn, Riot dot Ninja, um slash discord slash search, 926 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,840 Speaker 1: then put in put in Catboy and scrolls skulls scrolls 927 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 1: through thousands of posts from these Nazi channels, not mention 928 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 1: cat for here. We got stuff from like sar God 929 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 1: of a cod the We have the Discord channel, Domestic 930 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 1: Terrorism Planning, Discord Catboy channel, we of course have we 931 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 1: of course have Nick Fuentes. We got every whatever you 932 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,279 Speaker 1: would look for, you can find it here. Um. And 933 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,920 Speaker 1: that is that is the curious case of Nazi catboys. 934 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:56,320 Speaker 1: So there there you go. Any any questions class Garrison, 935 00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 1: why why did you do this to us? Because I 936 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 1: thought it would be fun? It is on the on 937 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 1: the inside, it's funny anyway, happy Well, that is uh so, yeah, Now, 938 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 1: I hope I hope you all have a better look 939 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 1: into why the fascist femboy meme exists and how people 940 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: can have the cognitive distance in their own heads in 941 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,799 Speaker 1: terms of you know, fetishing, fetishizing feminine attributes while still 942 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,840 Speaker 1: hating women and then leading into the Nick Fuentez catboy 943 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 1: craze that has swept with the nation as a whole. 944 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 1: So just okay, just just just be queer and a leftist. 945 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 1: You don't have to do the shape. You do not 946 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 1: have to wrap your brain in fucking seventeen layers of 947 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:43,880 Speaker 1: bullshit of like weird misogyny. You can just just be 948 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 1: gay and leftist, and as as we as we showed 949 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 1: you can, you can. You can be a leftist. You 950 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 1: can love Stalin and be a catboy. It's totally fine. 951 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 1: I think you can be anything and be a catboy. 952 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,280 Speaker 1: That's that's the main message of the twenty one century. 953 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 1: Adimir Putin is going to come out as a catboy 954 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 1: when he releases his next unhinged rant and support of J. K. Rowling. 955 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,400 Speaker 1: That's that's that's where the discourse is headed. It's inevitable, 956 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 1: it can't be stopped. I wanted to be with Nick Fintesan, 957 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 1: Vladimir putin Hold cants being a cat boy. All right, 958 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,720 Speaker 1: well where we're going. That doesn't for us today, everybody. 959 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 1: If you wanna follow the show, you can follow us 960 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,399 Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram at happen here pot and cool 961 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 1: Zone Media. You can follow my cat boy posting at 962 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 1: Hungry bow Tie. Um yeah, yeah, yeah. It could happen 963 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 1: here as a production of cool Zone Media. 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