WEBVTT - Highlight Reels: Wide Receiver Techniques

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Games and Names.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Julian Edelman, and we've got a brand new compilation,

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<v Speaker 2>Highlight Reel starting now now.

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<v Speaker 3>Cooper Cup talks about wide receiver techniques, receivers and art form.

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<v Speaker 3>No one, doesn't you do it different than this? Goes

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<v Speaker 3>back to the same conversation. It's like, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 3>there's Picasso and brother Tis, Michael Donald Tello, Raphaels, there

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<v Speaker 3>is there is so like, uh, there's all these different

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<v Speaker 3>ways to do it. Yeah, right, And so I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to get stuck just knowing one way.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to have some other stuff I can do

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<v Speaker 3>and force me to kind of go and learn from people.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember before the twenty my second year, before the

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eighteen season, It's it's Friday before we report on

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<v Speaker 3>Tuesday for training camp, and I'm with Curse Conway.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who's that the receiver?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, from with team Bears.

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<v Speaker 1>Bears.

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<v Speaker 4>So I I want what year?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I think at the point I'm with Conway and where

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<v Speaker 3>we show up on I show up on Friday, like

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<v Speaker 3>we're easing to take me through some girls. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to get, you know, perspective. I want to see someone

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<v Speaker 3>else take me to through stuff. A lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>times I go with someone and I might spend a

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<v Speaker 3>few days working out with someone and be like, I

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<v Speaker 3>grabbed one thing that I want to like take with me, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes there's nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes like man, there's just a treasure trove of stuff

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<v Speaker 3>that I want to use here. Yeah, there with Curse

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<v Speaker 3>Conway and we ran a curl route for an hour straight,

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<v Speaker 3>an hour shift a curl route three days before training camp.

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<v Speaker 3>My toes were I pulled my cleats off toes bloodied,

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<v Speaker 3>gone gone every year yeah gone, you know, so you go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but I want to go here for someone want to

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<v Speaker 3>hear something something different?

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<v Speaker 1>And what was his technique? How was it different? You

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<v Speaker 1>know he attacked the leverage guy or was he just

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<v Speaker 1>goes straight up in the back.

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<v Speaker 4>We did attack.

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<v Speaker 3>We did more attack the leverage stuff in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>like the stems and things like that. But I don't

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<v Speaker 3>even remember if it was from him that I like

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<v Speaker 3>pull this, But it was kind of the beginning of

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<v Speaker 3>this idea of like, as a receiver, I never want

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<v Speaker 3>to think of myself as as slowing down.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to decelerate, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to always be thinking I'm accelerating so even

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<v Speaker 3>when I get to the top of a route, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to accelerate down into the ground, right, Like, what's

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<v Speaker 3>the what one of the best stoppers in the world javelin, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Javelin comes down stops right. So I want to be

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<v Speaker 3>like a javel where I'm running and I want that angle.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to accelerate down at forty five and when

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<v Speaker 3>I'm accelerating, put my foot down.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what Newton says energy potential.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, he also says every force is an equal and

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<v Speaker 3>opposite reaction, right, So if I accelerate down into the ground, right,

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<v Speaker 3>the ground's gonna stop me, push back against me.

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<v Speaker 1>Starting go somewhere.

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<v Speaker 4>And now, as a dB you see me accelerating.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm accelerating down towards the ground, and you're backing up right,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm stopping.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you have to have your technique and right

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<v Speaker 1>in your body all that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, there's so much I like they're running curls for

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<v Speaker 3>an hour, get.

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<v Speaker 4>My feet bloodied.

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<v Speaker 3>Like yeah, I probably didn't grab a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 3>stuff from it, but it was like the beginning of

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<v Speaker 3>this thought, like, man, how do I want to stop now?

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<v Speaker 5>Poking akua on developing alongside Cooper Cup You're.

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<v Speaker 6>Running indie drills and like everybody's getting ready to line up,

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<v Speaker 6>and I'm like, yo, I'm gonna make my way to

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<v Speaker 6>the front right behind Coop. Yeah, I'm gonna make my

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<v Speaker 6>way to the front to be number two, just so

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<v Speaker 6>I can watch him.

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<v Speaker 1>Go watch his whole rep.

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<v Speaker 6>Watch how you like doing everything, whether it's routes on air,

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<v Speaker 6>it was the cone drills, or he were going up

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<v Speaker 6>in one on ones, like like yeah, and then when

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<v Speaker 6>I got to go run the reps with him, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>all right, Coop, like hey, we got this, or like

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<v Speaker 6>we're lined up two by two and we're going to

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<v Speaker 6>wear in a stack and it's me and Coop would

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<v Speaker 6>be like, all right, what are you about to do

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<v Speaker 6>right here? I'm like and he'd be like, all right,

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<v Speaker 6>I think I'm about to get inside leverage and then

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna work in I'm a cross face and then

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a one two at the top and be like

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<v Speaker 6>all right, and we're like we're as we're going out,

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<v Speaker 6>like we're still kind of talking to me, like oh,

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<v Speaker 6>and then you watch him say exactly do exactly what

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<v Speaker 6>he said was gonna go to be like holy cow,

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<v Speaker 6>Like this is how football should feel like. Man, there's

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<v Speaker 6>a different type of feeling when you get to go

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<v Speaker 6>and watch somebody because they're giving all these cues that man,

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<v Speaker 6>you're like, oh, I just have my I have my

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<v Speaker 6>corner route right here.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna find a way. And he's like, all right, No,

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<v Speaker 6>it's gonna look like this. He's gonna roll down, he's

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<v Speaker 6>gonna play outside leverage. I'm gonna get to his inside shower.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a one to him at the top and I'm

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<v Speaker 6>gonna win. And then he would go one to him

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<v Speaker 6>at the top and he would win and be like,

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<v Speaker 6>damn cool.

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<v Speaker 5>Next up, Antonio Gates breaks down his record setting touchdown.

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<v Speaker 7>Catch you just in the moment, you know, I'm looking

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<v Speaker 7>at the side of I'm reading my side of the field.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't got time trying to read the whole scan

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<v Speaker 7>the whole field. What's it was like a sticky pump,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, And I'm looking at the back yardstick and

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<v Speaker 7>go and go right, come around right. I knew it was.

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<v Speaker 7>I felt like it was zone, you know. And I gotta, man,

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<v Speaker 7>mind you, I gotta I gotta guess this. When after

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<v Speaker 7>my first.

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<v Speaker 2>Two steps is this, Uh, who's this on?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this on a linebacker?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? This is on line back.

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<v Speaker 7>It felt like it felt like cover four if I

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<v Speaker 7>can look at it. It felt like he was going

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<v Speaker 7>to try to push. Yeah, but it was like two safeties.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's hard to determine because we in the red zone, right,

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<v Speaker 7>It's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard.

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<v Speaker 7>It's hard to determine. But me, I don't even That

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<v Speaker 7>was the beauty of not playing either. I don't overthink nothing.

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<v Speaker 7>I just go play, you know what I'm saying. Because

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<v Speaker 7>when you got this football high iq, you come down,

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<v Speaker 7>you can overthink it's still football, it's green grass, or

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<v Speaker 7>it ain't.

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<v Speaker 1>Just play, you know what I'm saying. That was my philosophy.

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<v Speaker 7>Once I ran up on him, I realized he was

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<v Speaker 7>He stayed inside, he didn't push right, so I'm thinking, like, well,

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<v Speaker 7>the corner didn't look like he was squatting.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's why I kind of trying to figure out what.

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<v Speaker 1>Was cover six?

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<v Speaker 7>It was four, it was two, you know what, Let

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<v Speaker 7>me just get back around here. I felt like it's

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<v Speaker 7>some type of zone, right, which I felt like it

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<v Speaker 7>was cover four because he drove it safety drove it.

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<v Speaker 1>So hard, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 7>So I ended up just trying to loop around and

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<v Speaker 7>get around the linebacker with the idea of, if it's four,

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<v Speaker 7>let me give him a little something because he's going

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<v Speaker 7>to have to go.

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<v Speaker 1>He's trying to get unerneath me. Yeah, it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to go if it's four. Yeah, and if it's true.

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<v Speaker 7>So basically my idea is that if it's two, I

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<v Speaker 7>can still just come on and come around him flatter.

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<v Speaker 7>I gotta come flatter. If it's four, I gotta still

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<v Speaker 7>come flat. Now I'm the safeties guy. Once I get

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<v Speaker 7>a straight lease, now I got to beat him.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>So the backer is not really the concern. It was

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<v Speaker 7>more so the safety. I've always used that formula anyway.

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<v Speaker 7>I ain't got time to worry about the first dude.

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<v Speaker 7>Whereas his help, right, So where you're gonna go? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>So I just kind of gave him listen. I felt

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<v Speaker 7>like he wasn't really moving. I said, there's no point

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<v Speaker 7>of me why and what? He ain't coming right? So

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<v Speaker 7>I just came, let's yeah two three for two, three

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<v Speaker 7>for two, that's what it might have been. So, and

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<v Speaker 7>I've seen enough of those coverages to know. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 7>got there a lot with like Danny when Danny was

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<v Speaker 7>on our team, So I got the like I was

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<v Speaker 7>darren spros.

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<v Speaker 1>We get him in the slot formation as.

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<v Speaker 7>A backer, linebacker, safety, whatever, so we know it's three

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<v Speaker 7>for to take. I go over here at the back

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<v Speaker 7>of got me. I go vertical to the safety, got me.

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<v Speaker 7>I always trying to figure out what the help was at.

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<v Speaker 7>I never thought about the actual guy who's carvering me

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<v Speaker 7>in my mind and to me, I was gonna beat

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<v Speaker 7>him where it's his help that determines his levers, that's

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<v Speaker 7>going to determine how he's shade, how he's moving. And

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<v Speaker 7>I felt like he didn't really move with no point

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<v Speaker 7>of me getting.

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<v Speaker 2>Wide and you had to get open on him for

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<v Speaker 2>you to get the ball. Yeah, because you know that's

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<v Speaker 2>what the quarterback seeing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, now Danny A.

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<v Speaker 5>Mondola breaks down the double pass is.

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<v Speaker 2>Through the pass eat by beat.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to start by the full season.

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<v Speaker 8>Really, I think we never We practiced it a couple

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<v Speaker 8>maybe three times, whether it be in a walkthrough.

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<v Speaker 1>We put it in like week two, we put it

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<v Speaker 1>in me too.

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<v Speaker 8>We actually ran it against We had it called with

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<v Speaker 8>an alert versus right, yeah, versus Kansas City on that

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<v Speaker 8>Monday night game, and they gave us a man look,

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<v Speaker 8>so we had to get a check out of it,

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<v Speaker 8>run a slat backside with Jojo Lefello, who took it

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<v Speaker 8>to the house actually, but because as they gave us

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<v Speaker 8>a man look, we couldn't run it. So it got

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<v Speaker 8>called off and then we didn't see it again until

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<v Speaker 8>I think we ran in a walk through it and

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<v Speaker 8>we missed it in the walk.

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<v Speaker 1>Through, and the walkthrough missed it the night before the game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so the coaches are freaking out there, like scrap it.

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<v Speaker 8>These slappies can't complete a pass. And then and then

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<v Speaker 8>they called it in the game and we got the

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<v Speaker 8>right look and then ended up working out.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, remember this ball, let me see I remember, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember the.

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<v Speaker 4>Way it feels. Oh yeah, that's nice.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a little wobbly though, was it a was it

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<v Speaker 8>a complete spiral or no?

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<v Speaker 1>It was a just wanted to get out there. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought I overthrew them.

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<v Speaker 2>Now like Doling, I get this, hey little jogger run

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<v Speaker 2>he catches it, little high.

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<v Speaker 8>Step in the end zone, tracked it down. That was

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<v Speaker 8>That was the loudest I've ever heard Foxborough. Well, we

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<v Speaker 8>were down fourteen points twice in that game. That was

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<v Speaker 8>the second time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I tied it up at twenty eight. I tied

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<v Speaker 1>it up at twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>They went up fourteen zero, then we went to fourteen fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>then they went up twenty eight to fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you remember the lead up to this, Josh, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Josh just came up to me in the drive before,

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<v Speaker 2>he is I don't need to give you any lead

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<v Speaker 2>time for for the dope pass, do I. I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good. Yeah, sitting there shitting my pants out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thinking about the walk through the night before. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what were you thinking when you let that ball fly?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I overthrew you.

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<v Speaker 8>No, I was good. I was I was jogging too, Bud,

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know right in the stride, didn't even have

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<v Speaker 8>to turn the jets on.

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<v Speaker 5>Steve Smith Senior is up next, talking about becoming the

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<v Speaker 5>X receiver, and we.

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<v Speaker 4>Had practiced the play is called X Clown.

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<v Speaker 9>We practiced that play so many times and me and

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<v Speaker 9>Jay could not get on the same page.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll run it this way, he threw it that way,

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<v Speaker 4>he threw it this way.

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<v Speaker 9>I wouldn't run it that way, and it just just seemed.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it was not gonna work. And then when they

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<v Speaker 4>called it a game, it worked twice.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys hit it twice.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the X clown So what there's verbiage probably for

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<v Speaker 2>the protection and there's something else or does that tell

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<v Speaker 2>everyone what to do?

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<v Speaker 4>So this is where ball is.

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<v Speaker 9>This is the part where some people don't like that

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<v Speaker 9>actually know ball. You know, they kind of think that

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know ball. And people always talk about you know,

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<v Speaker 9>especially with my stuff, they always talk about Steve just

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<v Speaker 9>he just talks. And the offense we were running that

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<v Speaker 9>year was Dan Henny yeah, w tree from that tree

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<v Speaker 9>is from Charlie Weiss, which means we had maybe if

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<v Speaker 9>these words sound familiar to you, Ola recircle, Max Delly.

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<v Speaker 1>XQ yeah, olay is that out with the flag?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Two man concept X clown's backside telling the X what

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<v Speaker 2>to do, but there was probably something in front telling

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<v Speaker 2>the other guys what to do.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, And then we had like toga they called it

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<v Speaker 9>ten ten two ends, two ends.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to topper topper.

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<v Speaker 4>To two posts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, so that that was that was the offense, and

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<v Speaker 9>you know, I had to learn how to play receiver

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<v Speaker 9>in a way that I just really didn't know how

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<v Speaker 9>to play receiver at that time, you know, going to Utah.

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<v Speaker 4>I was.

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<v Speaker 9>I was actually in college, junior college. I was a

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<v Speaker 9>Z originally.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, my wide receivers coach in college switched me to

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<v Speaker 9>AX because I'm right handed, but I'm left hand dominant.

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<v Speaker 9>So I would be at Z with the ball in

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<v Speaker 9>my left hand and I was stiff on my right right. Well,

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<v Speaker 9>they come and just poke it out. So they moved

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<v Speaker 9>me to ACTS. And that's how I became an.

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<v Speaker 1>AXE because of how you handled the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I I handled the ball bro It.

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<v Speaker 2>Was not only to carry the ball in my left arm,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was a four back, everything left left. I

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<v Speaker 2>was the same way because I was in Pop Warner.

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<v Speaker 2>I was the four back and a wishbone offense, and

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<v Speaker 2>I always ran left, and so you always kept it

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<v Speaker 2>on the outside, and so I would always, even to

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<v Speaker 2>this day that my most comfortable side was my left

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<v Speaker 2>side holding the ball, which is very unorthodox for right

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<v Speaker 2>handed guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>So you turned into an X in college because your

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<v Speaker 2>right hand, you're better with the ball in your left,

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<v Speaker 2>so you give the stiffy, and in this point of

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<v Speaker 2>your career you were still kind of feeling your feeling

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<v Speaker 2>on how to learn how to play receiver in this offense,

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<v Speaker 2>that Charlie Weiss style offense.

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<v Speaker 1>So is this clown route? Is it like a bow post?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's so because you inside released and then you

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<v Speaker 2>stemmed up and then you hit them with the outside

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<v Speaker 2>with the couple because.

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<v Speaker 4>It was it was, it was. It was built off Q.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know you was just a bow.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, So it was built off the Q because I

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<v Speaker 9>ran it so well, yeah, stem inside, get vertical, get vertical,

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<v Speaker 9>go to the corner. Yeah, so I'll stem inside and

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<v Speaker 9>I just went. But I ran the one and I leaned.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reason I leaned to make him think it

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<v Speaker 1>was going a shitty bow.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, but it was also the lean was to put

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<v Speaker 9>my foot in the ground to go, yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>People people don't realize you were primarily an X. Like

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<v Speaker 2>people try to put you in like categories where you

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<v Speaker 2>were No. Steve Smith was the most you're probably the

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<v Speaker 2>most dominant X in my eyes of all time under

0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.160
<v Speaker 2>six foot like you like and you, but you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>play like you were. It was fucking amazing to me

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<v Speaker 2>to watch you play. When you could run by people,

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<v Speaker 2>you could run the routes that I ran and I

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<v Speaker 2>specialized in, but you could win on a go route.

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<v Speaker 2>You could stack a guy, run away from a guy,

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<v Speaker 2>and you were so dynamic with the ball and strong

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<v Speaker 2>bottom legs like you never got down like and you like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's fucking crazy that it all stemmed back to the

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<v Speaker 2>coach in college.

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<v Speaker 1>I say, hey, you only hold it in your left

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<v Speaker 1>I think we got to put you at X.

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<v Speaker 4>It was it was a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fucking gat up.

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<v Speaker 5>Next we've got Pooka Nakua. I'm becoming Matthew Stafford's go

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<v Speaker 5>to receiver.

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<v Speaker 2>Chemistry between you and Matthew Stafford, when did you feel

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<v Speaker 2>that chemistry actually ignite? And like you knew you were

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have this ten catch game going into the week

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<v Speaker 2>two where you're gonna have the performance you have.

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<v Speaker 6>So rookie mini camp, we come, we get drafted, we

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<v Speaker 6>show up.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's like two weeks after that the rookies

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<v Speaker 1>got to stay.

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<v Speaker 6>After everybody else goes and everybody's leaving, but except me

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<v Speaker 6>and my roommate Davis Allen. He was the I was

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<v Speaker 6>one seventy seven. He was one seventy five, two picks

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<v Speaker 6>in front of me. We're at the hotel together. We're

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<v Speaker 6>both rookie, so we're staying and everybody's going We're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>we're going to stay, and we get a text of

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<v Speaker 6>like yo from one of our strength coaches like, yo,

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<v Speaker 6>Matthew wants you to come out and catch for like

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<v Speaker 6>Higgs is going to be there or other wide receiver

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<v Speaker 6>Van Jefferson's going to be there, and they're like he

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<v Speaker 6>wants you to come out and be like yo for real,

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<v Speaker 6>like out of all the guys on the team, like

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<v Speaker 6>he asked me and like my roommates to come out.

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<v Speaker 6>And I was like, yo, I got to run the

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<v Speaker 6>best routes of my life. If I cannot drop a ball,

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<v Speaker 6>like it's got to be as good or it's got

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<v Speaker 6>to be the best route run I've ever had in

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<v Speaker 6>my life. And the first day and like you've thrown

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<v Speaker 6>with him, like you see when like you're coming out

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<v Speaker 6>of breaks and like the ball's in the perfect spot

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<v Speaker 6>every time, and be like, yo, if I keep my

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<v Speaker 6>feet and like as long as I can see the

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<v Speaker 6>ball spin for a second, I'm like this is I'm

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<v Speaker 6>like he is not missing. Like whether it's upfield, we're

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<v Speaker 6>running an out route, puts on your front shoulder.

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<v Speaker 1>You can turn, tap and turn to get out of the side.

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<v Speaker 6>And you're running ont a crow break, it's on your

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<v Speaker 6>inside path, so you can drop step and turn over

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<v Speaker 6>your inside shoulder.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was like, holy colch.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you basically telling me that you guys had instant chemistry?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean low kielt I felt like first, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I'm not gonna I'm not even gonna second guess

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<v Speaker 2>that because I went with him once to Golden West. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we threw together. I think we threw forty five balls.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we went forty five for forty five We

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<v Speaker 2>never even met each other. That's how elite his arm

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<v Speaker 2>talent is. He like like Puka was saying, the ball

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<v Speaker 2>come right out there, right out that break is right

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<v Speaker 2>on your forehead, literally right up on your forehead, and

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<v Speaker 2>he just over here slings it now.

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<v Speaker 5>Steve Smith Senior on the greatness of Davonte Adams and

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<v Speaker 5>his own mentality as a route runner.

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<v Speaker 9>My favorite old guys too, Like so I still think

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<v Speaker 9>Davonte Adams is still that guy. He's not gonna he's

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<v Speaker 9>never been a four to three guy, but his releases

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<v Speaker 9>are remarkable, just the way he does his hands, ball placement,

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<v Speaker 9>catch radius, body control, tempo.

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<v Speaker 1>Sudden burst really good sudden burst, and then his.

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<v Speaker 9>Creativity to stack you even though he's not faster than you.

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<v Speaker 9>So just him being able to use his leverage. So like,

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<v Speaker 9>I look at that, But then there's other guys I

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<v Speaker 9>think that that are promising, who have the ability.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's someone that you think that kind of reminds you

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<v Speaker 2>of you, if there's anyone, see, So people ask that

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<v Speaker 2>and hard to do that. So the reason why I did.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not judging you.

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<v Speaker 9>The reason why I have a hard time answering that

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<v Speaker 9>question is because I also remember that I was supposed

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<v Speaker 9>to be a fit front draft pick. I was also

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<v Speaker 9>told I was just a returner. So now that I'm

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<v Speaker 9>domb playing, everybody's like, oh, he minds me, you But

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<v Speaker 9>when I was playing, people didn't like me, and so

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<v Speaker 9>you didn't like me. And then there's you know, we

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<v Speaker 9>read our stuff on there and they're like, oh, you know,

0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:51.000
<v Speaker 9>people like, oh, Steve was just a slot receiver.

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<v Speaker 4>And really it was I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 9>I think the game has changed, but I also think

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<v Speaker 9>there are players out there who don't remind me of myself,

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<v Speaker 9>because I think they are significantly better. I played the

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<v Speaker 9>way I played because I was obviously I did like

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<v Speaker 9>I didn't have quick feet like Chad like I can do.

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<v Speaker 9>I couldn't do great cone drills. I round in my routes.

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<v Speaker 9>I never ran the right I never ran the same

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<v Speaker 9>route the same way. So they were things that I

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<v Speaker 9>did that I used as my advantage. But I ran

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<v Speaker 9>my routes kind of add like I was never consistent

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<v Speaker 9>on doing things. I did it my way. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 9>but I was really just kind of like covering for

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<v Speaker 9>the fact that, man, I was just playing on hope

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<v Speaker 9>of the prayer yea. And so that's just kind of

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<v Speaker 9>like I know I was playing with house money, right,

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<v Speaker 9>I know that, So just roll the dice, say, man,

0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:55.600
<v Speaker 9>put all the chips in. So when I go across

0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.440
<v Speaker 9>the middle and I know I'm gonna get hit, you

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<v Speaker 9>got a choice to get hit with the ball, oh

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<v Speaker 9>without the ball. And so a few times like all right,

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<v Speaker 9>I get hit with the ball. Now I get up

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<v Speaker 9>and I'm like, man, you know a guy used to

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<v Speaker 9>hit me. He'd be like, oh, what you want with that,

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<v Speaker 9>and so I started getting up like if you think

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<v Speaker 9>you crazy, I'm crazier.

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<v Speaker 4>And so it was more like the feed into.

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<v Speaker 9>Like to intimidate and show bron be.

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<v Speaker 1>Here all day, your best didn't hurt me.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 5>Cooper Cup is up next, talking about the unconscious competence

0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:28.320
<v Speaker 5>you need as a receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, there's just so much you can do better, so

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<v Speaker 3>many things, so many details that you can press yourself on,

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<v Speaker 3>and like, you know, what kind of tools can at

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<v Speaker 3>your tool belt as counters to what worked?

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<v Speaker 4>Like what worked? How are people going to stop it?

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<v Speaker 4>How do I counter that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And you're in the point of your career where you

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<v Speaker 2>could watch film and you can go practice off a

0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:51.040
<v Speaker 2>specific look of how it may not have went your way,

0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:53.600
<v Speaker 2>and you could put that and play that game in

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<v Speaker 2>your mind. And you're probably at the point where you're

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<v Speaker 2>running routes. Oh yeah, you're running yeah exactly. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you get better playing football, playing football.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's there's a few different steps that just

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<v Speaker 3>like the visualization side of things of where you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm I know, my wife knows, I'm laying

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<v Speaker 3>in bed and suddenly I'll just be like, wow, flinch out.

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<v Speaker 3>I look like what were you doing there? What was happening? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I got to take I was running this route. It's

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<v Speaker 3>safety was driving down you know, like it's like it's real.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like you get to this point where you're visualizing

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<v Speaker 3>things to the point where your body is like reacting

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<v Speaker 3>to it and you're going and you take next step

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<v Speaker 3>and now we're OK, we're running routes on air, and

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<v Speaker 3>we don't run routes on air just to run routes

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<v Speaker 3>on their Like there's an intent mind what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>You're you're seeing, Hey, this is how this dB is

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<v Speaker 3>playing us. Let's rest run this route. And I'm talking

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<v Speaker 3>to Matthew, Hey is three carry? It's a tight carry

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<v Speaker 3>out side, Like how we want to run this route

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<v Speaker 3>on this one? What angles are we coming out at?

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<v Speaker 3>So now you're running routes on air and you're visualizing

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<v Speaker 3>these things. So now when it does come time that

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<v Speaker 3>you're competing, you've seen that, you've seen it, you visualize that,

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<v Speaker 3>you've felt all those steps that you're gonna take. You've

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<v Speaker 3>seen how he's gonna play and react to each movie

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna do. At that point, once you're playing the game,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like I've taken this rep over and over and

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<v Speaker 3>over again.

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<v Speaker 1>Already used to call that DejaVu.

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<v Speaker 2>You practice so much once you're doing the game, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like deja voo. That's a great feeling too, It is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, People don't realize the amount of reps

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<v Speaker 2>you put into a play for it to work, because

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<v Speaker 2>there's like twenty different looks you can have. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you practice it and you rep it over over and

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<v Speaker 2>over with an intent, like Cooper said, and you use

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<v Speaker 2>those reps once you get to game day, it's in

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<v Speaker 2>your subconscious yep. So once you can react faster and

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<v Speaker 2>you get to use your athleticism more because once you

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<v Speaker 2>know what's coming, then that's when techniques and your superpowers

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<v Speaker 2>get to come out.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly when when your mind's on, your body's off all

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<v Speaker 3>of the time, Right when you can get to the

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<v Speaker 3>point where your mind's seeing it so much that that's

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<v Speaker 3>now subconscious. Sean McVay calls it unconscious competence. Right when

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<v Speaker 3>you unconscious. I bet you he's got some sayings. What

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<v Speaker 3>other sayns does he have he's got?

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<v Speaker 4>Is you gotta let him come? Natch? I can't just

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<v Speaker 4>start pulling him out of thing. Keep it in the back.

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<v Speaker 2>So we had this rep right here, Keep that in

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<v Speaker 2>your subconscious. If something comes along in this next part

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<v Speaker 2>of the interview, just pop a flag it.

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<v Speaker 1>Flag it.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you say that you like would wake up like

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<v Speaker 5>dreaming about reps.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, no, this isn't just this is like a

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<v Speaker 3>full on like like I'm awake, laying in bed and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just visualized. It's it's playing so clearly in my head,

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<v Speaker 3>what's happening that my body is reacting to what's happening

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<v Speaker 3>in those moments, and it's it's it's it's become it's

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<v Speaker 3>honestly become a problem to the point where it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>ysh if if we're like my wife's like laying on me,

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<v Speaker 3>it's and I'm daydreamers like that, like she can get

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<v Speaker 3>like like boom, I move actually like her head's popping

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<v Speaker 3>up off my shoulder.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a it's a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've had to we've had to figure out how

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<v Speaker 3>to like, you know, balance those things a little bit so.

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<v Speaker 4>That we're not hurting each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna illgal hands. Thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 5>Remember to tune in every Tuesday for a brand new

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<v Speaker 5>episode and every Sunday for another games with names Highlight Year.

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<v Speaker 9>Mm hmmmmmmm