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Speaker 1: That's the show. Obviously, thanks everyone for tuning in. We

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Speaker 1: because we just had to Monday night football games. We

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Speaker 1: literally recording this right after Josh Allen. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It looks like John Elway meets Jim Kelly meets Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what I just witnessed, beside a

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Speaker 1: complete and utter butt whooping by the Bills and Robert Sala,

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Speaker 1: future head coach of someone as an executive told me

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Speaker 1: last week, thought he was a lock. Let me repeat,

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Speaker 1: a lock to be a head coach. Brian Dable, who's

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Speaker 1: Just you know took him to school. That was a

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Speaker 1: that was a clinic. It really was on how to

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Speaker 1: expose that Seattle defense at the Niners run. But before

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Speaker 1: we get into that, Middlecoff mail back in the show

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Speaker 1: greatly appreciate it. Let's start with the Bills and I

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Speaker 1: just saw a tweet the Bills and Browns both have

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Speaker 1: nine wins in the same season for the first time

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Speaker 1: since nineteen Pretty incredible. But I think when you watched

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Speaker 1: is we all knew he had these crazy physical gifts.

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Speaker 1: He was kind of like a Jamacus Russell coming out

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Speaker 1: His stats were terrible. He was inaccurate, and they took

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Speaker 1: You're just betting on the ceiling because there's a chance

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Speaker 1: his floor could be really low if he didn't hit.

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Speaker 1: And when he first got to the league, you're like,

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Speaker 1: just got building, stacking, stacking, improving, improving, And now we

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Speaker 1: get a guy on Monday Night football. Now, granted there

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Speaker 1: Tonight might have been his finest hour as a pro.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the game was probably three hours, but finding find

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Speaker 1: his game as a pro. Thirty two forty almost four yards,

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Speaker 1: last week. Absolutely, I mean Ram circles around. And the

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Speaker 1: great part about quarterback, unlike most positions, is it is

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Speaker 1: so much more than just your physical gifts, and the

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Speaker 1: physical gifts Josh Allen has are elite. If he's gonna

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Speaker 1: play like that, only Patrick Mahomes of all the young

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Speaker 1: but like there's no other young guy. Lamar Jackson can't

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Speaker 1: Obviously he's nowhere in that world right now. Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: Because we knew he had the tools, he had those

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Speaker 1: what can win in the playoffs. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: far the Bills are gonna go uh in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: this year, but I know this they can win big

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Speaker 1: And every coach that was watching this game in their

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Speaker 1: It's so bad. He has to go work and train.

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Speaker 1: Anyone that's seen the sixty knows it's an incredible watch.

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Speaker 1: And all he did was grind and grind and grind.

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Speaker 1: And he kept saying I'm gonna come back, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: an incredible human being. We need people like you to

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Speaker 1: we understand you're tough. Guy. We watched you that forty

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Speaker 1: but he's just gonna be more talented than Alex. No,

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Speaker 1: Like we need those type people in charge. Like he's

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Speaker 1: It doesn't get any higher than that. It's one of

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Speaker 1: We've seen some horrific injuries in sports. Legs, snapped shoulders,

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Speaker 1: to make it at the highest level of the high

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Speaker 1: price jobs and industries. I honestly don't think you have

427
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Speaker 1: a chance because I think he gotta be a little

428
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: crazy or you won't last because these industries are nuts.

429
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Speaker 1: And I saw it when I got into football. They

430
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Speaker 1: had a lot of the same characteristics as successful people

431
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Speaker 1: that I was around growing up. I saw it in

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Speaker 1: Coach Hill when I worked at Fresno State. Pat Hill

433
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Speaker 1: anybody anytime, any place like he He kind of had

434
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Speaker 1: a huge edge to him, a little crazy in a

435
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: good way. I mean, was a super high level guy.

436
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Speaker 1: I thought he was a fantastic coach, fantastic leader, but

437
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Speaker 1: like that was the guy if I went, yeah, I

438
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: had Pat Hill in my foxhole. I'm feeling pretty good

439
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: about it. I definitely thought that with Andy Reid when

440
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Speaker 1: I was in Philadelphia. Now what he's doing in Kansas

441
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: City and knowing all those guys. Beach too, I mean,

442
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: Beach is a little crazy again, I want to say,

443
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,239
Speaker 1: in a good way, in a competitive way, but like

444
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: they're not like most normal people. You're just gonna meet

445
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Speaker 1: on the street. And you see it in Belichick, you

446
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: see it in Sean Payton, I see it covering Kyle Shanahan.

447
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 1: Like these dudes, this is this is crazy business, the

448
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: business of football, just like I'm sure anyone listening. Whatever

449
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: industry you're in, it's highly competitive. You know, if if

450
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Speaker 1: you're not kind of crazy, you will get taken out.

451
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 1: You will lose in your job in football, Like a

452
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: lot of jobs in the private sector, it's pretty black

453
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: and white, right, either make money, you get fired. In football,

454
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: either win or you get fired. I mean, it's just

455
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 1: it's pretty pretty basic. The understanding. And Brian Flores and

456
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Speaker 1: I'm getting Joe Judge a little bit later. I think

457
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Speaker 1: they got like they kind of got it. I mean,

458
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Speaker 1: yesterday he went at and I don't think he was

459
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Speaker 1: gonna fight anyone now he I think he did play

460
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Speaker 1: a Boston college, but he blines at these guys like

461
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: he was ready to take on the whole team. I

462
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: was like, damn, I see Brian Flores. But to me,

463
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Speaker 1: if if you were just doing all that crap and

464
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Speaker 1: I washed your team it was like a slappy operation,

465
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: I'd be like, that guy's a fraud. That guy. That

466
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: guy is just doing it for show because he knows

467
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 1: the cameras on his team is eight and four. The

468
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins a lifeless franchise. When I think about the

469
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins, I just think South Beach is cool, Like, yeah,

470
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: they're just at best or eight in eight and they

471
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Speaker 1: have been the majority of my life since, like young Marino,

472
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: just a franchise that just cruises along. Never really make

473
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, honestly, never really compete to making the playoffs.

474
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: Always could have, would have, should have. But it's not

475
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Speaker 1: just Miami because if you look at the other professional

476
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Speaker 1: team there, I guess they got three. But the other

477
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Speaker 1: the successful team there, the Miami Heat. What are they

478
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Speaker 1: known for? Pat Riley he makes sure his employees and

479
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Speaker 1: his team, he checks them for body mass index. If

480
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Speaker 1: you're fat, you don't play. If you're fat, you run gassers.

481
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Speaker 1: Do you think the NBA most teams are doing that.

482
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: They talk all the time about heat culture. You know

483
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Speaker 1: what heat culture stands for. Pat Riley. He ain't messing around.

484
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Speaker 1: He's like he might not be quote unquote a coach,

485
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: but he's basically Bill Belichick of the operation and Pat

486
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: Riley is nuts again in a good way. Well, Brian

487
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: Flores yesterday obviously attacking those guys are willing to Oh

488
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: my god, there's a reason his team's eating four. He

489
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: runs a button up operation. They're not messing around. Clearly,

490
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: details in that organization don't slip through the cracks. He's

491
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Speaker 1: handled this too up Fitzpatrick's situation as well as you

492
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Speaker 1: possibly can. I know, two or three for almost three

493
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Speaker 1: hundred yards and the highlights I saw, he looks, you know,

494
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Speaker 1: he's had his moment. He's playing the Bengals. It's gonna

495
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 1: get a lot more difficult. I think the rest of

496
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: this month will get a good you know, ability to

497
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Speaker 1: judge him. I think over this next month at eight

498
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 1: and four, you know, with some teams kind of bearing

499
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Speaker 1: down on them to make the playoffs. But clearly Brian Flores,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to say the real deal,

501
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: but I think I saw someone tweet that they've won

502
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: like eleven of their last four teen games, like this

503
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Speaker 1: guy wins and it's really impressive what he's doing. And

504
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: I think the same thing for Joe Judge and I

505
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: said the moment that story came out, Listen, you can

506
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Speaker 1: tell me it's fake, but I tend to think that

507
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: it might be true that him and Mark Colombo throw down.

508
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: And when you look at Belichick, guys that failed. Because

509
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: when I hear people talk about Joe Judge and who

510
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: did I see? I called McCoy gave a bunch of

511
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Speaker 1: quotes and Albert Brier's article about Joe Judge, he's like,

512
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, he holds his accountable and he's intense, but

513
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: he's a younger guy. He relates to the players. So

514
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: clearly Brian Flores and Joe Judge are not holy. I

515
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: don't even know what the term would be, but Mangini

516
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: McDaniels like they viewed themselves on a different pedestal than

517
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Speaker 1: the players. But the players clearly know like this guy

518
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: is the head coach, he's the authority figure here, he's

519
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: the boss, but he also can clearly interact and talk

520
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: with guys. That's one thing I don't think Belichick gets

521
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Speaker 1: enough credit for. Clearly players enjoy being around Bill Belichick

522
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: in there in that organization, just like with Judge, who

523
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Speaker 1: took a team that has no business competing to be

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Speaker 1: I think they have won four straight games, maybe five.

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Speaker 1: I think they started one and seven. They're now five

526
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Speaker 1: and seven, so I guess that would be four straight games.

527
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Speaker 1: But you watch them like the Miami Dolphins, though they're

528
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 1: less talented, their effort is fantastic. They have showed up

529
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Speaker 1: basically every week since Kyle Shanahan kicked their ass, either

530
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Speaker 1: week two or Week three or whenever they played that

531
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: first month of the season, and they have been consistently

532
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Speaker 1: really good. They have been in every game, and I

533
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: bet if we dove into some of their losses, remember

534
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: that Bucks game on Monday Night Football. They were right

535
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: there and they just beat Seattle with a backup quarterback.

536
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: Now on the road, no fans like it is playing

537
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: a part of this season. This is not normal football.

538
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: But to go on the road when your team is

539
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: I guess they still are in the playoff mix technically

540
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: their first place in their division. But your record, your record,

541
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Speaker 1: and to play that hard and that consistently well shows

542
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: you the your code is good. What I think is

543
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: crazy is Flores and Judge already have a different field

544
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: than like Mangini ever did. Remember Josh McDaniels, whose name

545
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: is now resurfacing as someone that's gonna be in the mix.

546
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: And my question with Josh McDaniels has never been scheme,

547
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: has never been scheme. What what does Joe Judge's scheme.

548
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: He's not the OCS, not the d C. He doesn't

549
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: call either side of the ball. Think about that, he

550
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: has zero influence. I mean he has influence, but he's

551
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: not calling either side of the ball. Josh McDaniels, I

552
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: think we'd all agree, Like, I guy's really good with

553
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: the scheme. He did everything with Tom Brady. Uh, they

554
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: get Cam Newton and now he's I think Cam Newton

555
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: has tended rushing touchdowns like he can do whatever. His

556
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: problem in Denver is people despise the guy. They hated

557
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: the guy. Same thing with Mangini, people couldn't stand the guy.

558
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: That's not the case with any of these guys, people

559
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: like Joe Judge except Mark Columbo. That Joe Judge wasn't

560
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: afraid to fight. Now Brian Flores, which again really impressed.

561
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Speaker 1: And I think the key to being a good head

562
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: coach just like the key to being a good leader,

563
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: you know, seeing with I see a lot with politicians. Yeah,

564
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: actually leading anybody, you can do whatever you want. It's

565
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: why you see so many fraud politicians but I would think,

566
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, back when we consistently went to offices and

567
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: you are you're a manager or whatever, and you have ten,

568
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: however many people under you, you do have to be

569
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Speaker 1: authentic because if you're not, us humans see through that

570
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: when we actually have to deal with you on a

571
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Speaker 1: daily basis. And I think the same rings true for

572
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Speaker 1: head coaches. Can you be true to who you are?

573
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Speaker 1: And I think if we go through all the top

574
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Speaker 1: head coaches in the league, starting with Belichick, to Sean Payton,

575
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Speaker 1: Andy Reid, even to Mike Zimmer and Bruce Arians, like

576
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: they're very true. To say what you want about Bruce

577
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: Arians and then Buddy him and Tom Brady butting heads.

578
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: No one thinks Bruce Arians is being fake. Anytime he

579
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Speaker 1: calls Tom Brady out, you're like, well, he's been calling

580
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: out people for two decades. Same with Mike Zimmer. Whenever

581
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer says something after a game, no one ever

582
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: goes guy, that's a little out of character. He just

583
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: crushed Kirk Cousins. He just crushed his defense. He just

584
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: crushed his coach. Now that's what Mike Zimmer does. Kyle Shanahan,

585
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: Shaw McVeigh, they're just they're true to themselves and that's

586
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: always been the thing. And the red the red flag

587
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: on the Belichick guys like they just trying to copy

588
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. Well, you can't do that because once you

589
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: leave a building, once you you know, if you're copying

590
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: whoever in any business setting, the people that then are

591
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: working for you don't care because that guy is not there,

592
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: especially if it's in a different building. They're answering to you.

593
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: And I think whatever Brian Floores and clearly Joe Judge

594
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: are doing is resonating with the people around him. And

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00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: I don't think you can truly resonate over a longer

596
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: period of time if you're not true to yourself. So

597
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: I I'm just I can't say enough good things about

598
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: those two guys. I mean the New England Uh Belichick's underlinks.

599
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: You know that they're actually giving a positive spin when

600
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: it forever it's been these guys always fail. Never hire

601
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: a Belichick because they always turn out like man Patricia, Well,

602
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: these two guys are saving the day for the hoodie.

603
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: And speaking of the Hoodie, I'm a big believer you

604
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: learn way more about someone when things aren't going well

605
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: than you do when they are like, anyone can act

606
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: good if I hand you a million dollars, right, anyone

607
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: can act good when they win the championship. Well, how

608
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: do you act when someone knocks on the door in

609
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: your house is for closing? How does a player act

610
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: when you get the phone call and says you're being released?

611
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: How does someone act when you you get a phone

612
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: call of just devastation someone has passed away in your life.

613
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: I mean, these are human things that we all go through. Right.

614
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: People lose companies, people lose family members, people lose jobs, right,

615
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: People in football lose games. It's it's human nature. Anyone

616
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: can act well when things are going well. We've all

617
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: been there, and you know, whether you're dating someone, it's

618
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: that honeymoon phase, whether you get a job and you're

619
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: killing it and you're get making big bonuses, whether you're

620
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: an athlete and you're on the best team and you're

621
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: kicking everyone's ass, it's easy to puff your chest out,

622
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: it really is. It's why you know, I've always given

623
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: Belichick respect. Basically for twenty years, he's owned the entire NFL.

624
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: Nine Super Bowl appearances, six victories, went to the a

625
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: f C Championship for basically a decade straight. He never

626
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: really acted different, win or lose his body language, the

627
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: way he conducted himself and never stayed the same. I've

628
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: learned way more about I know Bill Belichick, if his

629
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: team is good, can beat anybody. We've seen it, we

630
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: know it. But this year when everyone opted out, he

631
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: had to sign Cam Newton for five thousand dollars. The

632
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: evidence is in the guy can't throw. Now. If people

633
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: want to push back, well, he created this team. He did.

634
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: He's not a great drafter. He's missed on a lot

635
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: of guys, but we can all agree as roster is

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Speaker 1: not very good. If you would have flipped those two

637
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Speaker 1: teams yesterday and Belichick was the coach of the Chargers

638
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: and Anthony Lynn was a coach of the New England Patriots,

639
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: the Charges would be a playoff team my guess, as

640
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: they'd win twelve games. If Anthony Lynn was the coach

641
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 1: of the Patriots, Honest to god, they might win one game.

642
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: They would compete with the Jets and the Jaguars in

643
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: the Trevor Lawrence Sweepstakes. It was that big of a

644
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: coaching matchup. But I didn't need like we already know

645
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: that Anthony Lynn's not a good head coach. I didn't

646
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,479
Speaker 1: need to watch that game, and trust me, I didn't

647
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: watch much of it, but see a forty five nothing

648
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: game to know Belichick's better than Anthony Lynn. Of course,

649
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: Belichick could take the col football team and line up

650
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: with the Chargers and keep it close for like a half.

651
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: Like the coaching mismatch was enormous. But for this man

652
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: to have this team at six and six and be

653
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: in a position that they played the Rams on Thursday night,

654
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: all of a sudden their seven and si we start

655
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: talking about can the Patriots make the playoffs? Is incredible.

656
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: It might be his most impressive coaching job in the

657
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,959
Speaker 1: last decade. And obviously in the last decade, several Super

658
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: Bowl appearances and uh you know, three victories and several

659
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: a f C championships. Right, I could make the argument

660
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: that this is more impressive, and I could make the

661
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: argument for his resume. This is what he does when

662
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: you hand him chicken shit. He comes out with pretty

663
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: high level chicken soup or chicken salad or a good

664
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: chicken dish. And I don't think many coaches have that

665
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 1: in the back. This is why to me, he's clearly

666
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: the top coach in the league. This team has zero

667
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: business being six and six. They don't have very much talent.

668
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: They have a quarterback who can't throw for a hundred

669
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: yards in a game. Cam Newton, who actually, I think

670
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: in a weird way, got a bad rap like Ron

671
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: rivera old school guy. Always loved him, clearly as teammates

672
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: like him. Clearly he's a hard worker, because you don't

673
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: last in the New England environment if you're lazy and

674
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: not a grinder like Cam has having no problem with that.

675
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: But just from a physical skill standpoint, he looks, you know, done,

676
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he looks borderline washed. Now he can still run,

677
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: and he's doing that. He'll probably end up with like

678
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: sixteen rushing touchdowns. But as a thrower, you know, because

679
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: he plays the quarterback position, he threw her six and

680
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 1: nine yards. He's struggling to throw it for a hundred

681
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: yards in the game. He's skipping balls. Doesn't even matter.

682
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: There's six and six with that. How's it even possible?

683
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: That's insane, That really is crazy. Think about how many

684
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: executives Belichick's loss. He's lost Flores, he's lost Judge, He's

685
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: losing all these guys. I mean for the first time

686
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: this offseason. I'm recording this part before the Monday night game.

687
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: But Robert Salti is gonna go like Cale Shehan's gonna

688
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 1: lose his defensive coordinator. The forty might lose Adam Peters

689
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: as a GM, they might lose some of Kyle's little minions,

690
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 1: Like I don't know you know how Kyle will react.

691
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: Belichick's lost everybody for twenty years, saying with Saban, Saban

692
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: loses this guy and that guy, and this guy and

693
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: that guy. It's like it doesn't matter what times the

694
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: game on Saturday. Eddie Oseron, you may beat me one

695
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: time in a decade, but I promise you this time,

696
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick your ass. And he kills him for

697
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: the first time at Oseron last year. Right loses, Joe

698
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: Brady loses, Joe Burrow, loses, Dave Randa. His team is

699
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 1: a joke. He's coaching l s U, not Mississippi State,

700
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: and Alabama could have scored a hundred. Belichick loses guy

701
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: after guy after guy after guy after guy after guy,

702
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: player after player after opt out after opted out after

703
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: dropped out. The heart and soul of the franchise Brady,

704
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: whether Brady left on his own or Belichick. I mean,

705
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: we could argue that all day. I think it's pretty

706
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: clear what happened. Uh, but it's just gone and boom

707
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: six and six right in the playoff mix? How's that?

708
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: How's it possible? And think about the teams that are

709
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: fighting for a wild card right now? Raiders Patriots beat him,

710
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 1: Ravens Patriots beat him? Think about that, like the teams

711
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: that like between the Raiders and the Ravens. One of

712
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: those two teams, because more than likely the Patriots won't

713
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Speaker 1: make the playoffs. Beat both those two teams. They play

714
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Speaker 1: Miami coming up. I'd expect him to win that game,

715
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Speaker 1: or at least have a decent chance, especially if two

716
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Speaker 1: was the quarterback. We see what Belichick does against workie quarterbacks.

717
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: You learned so much more about someone when their backs

718
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: against the wall and they don't have as much Like

719
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: what can what can you do from scratch anyone? If

720
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: I go, hey, you know, take over Apple, Like the

721
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: company is not gonna crumble right away. Even if I

722
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Speaker 1: just got some random guy up the street, they'd be

723
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: fine for a while. You know what if I just

724
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: gave you an empty office with nothing and said create

725
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: start business. Most people couldn't do it. That's what separates

726
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: these guys that do pull it off. Because Jeff Bezos

727
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: cre at Amazon from nothing. Ellen created tes Slot from nothing.

728
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 1: Belichick started this season with nothing. Seven opted led the

729
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 1: league in opt outs. Brady gone hell his best offensive player,

730
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman mrs game after game after game with an injury,

731
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Speaker 1: so you'd say, Okay, Brady's gone. Edelman is the heart

732
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: and soul of the team. He's gone. Has it mattered it? Really?

733
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Speaker 1: I can't say enough from how impressed I am with

734
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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick in the The two Thou New England Patriots.

735
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Speaker 1: You know, when you're scouting in on the road and

736
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: looking for a player, you're always hoping that the guy

737
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: you like cannot just become a good player, but because

738
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: can become a star player. And scouting football players is

739
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: no different probably than any business hiring individuals like you

740
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: don't truly know how they're gonna react until you get

741
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: them with a your building. Now, the difference is I

742
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: can evaluate college football games. If you're hiring a guy

743
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: out of college, you really just get his resume and

744
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: call some people that know him. Like a huge part

745
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: of football players. I get to evaluate his game tape,

746
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: on top of his coaches, his academic advisors, you know,

747
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: talk to people that know him, talked to him, interview him.

748
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: But Travis Kelsey and listen overall take on the Chief's

749
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 1: Denver game because I had a couple of people text me, like, white,

750
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: why aren't they winning by more? Like is the NFL

751
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: Division games fan, Joe's an elite defensive mind, like at

752
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: this point in time in the season, wins a win.

753
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: But the one thing that really jumps out to me

754
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Speaker 1: in that game is we we talk a lot about

755
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Speaker 1: my homes rightfully, So I mean, you might win another

756
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Speaker 1: m v P. He's got four and fifty million dollars,

757
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: just won the Super Bowl. I don't know if we

758
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: talk enough about Travis Kelsey. And one of the questions

759
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: you often ask when you're interested in the player is

760
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: how will he act once I give him money? Because

761
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: unlike most people, when they come out of college and

762
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: get a job, you're usually gonna make the least amount

763
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: of money you're ever gonna make in your life or whatever,

764
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: and then as you get older, you only make more money.

765
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: It's actually the opposite. For professional athletes, the the overwhelming

766
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: of them make the majority of the highest amount of

767
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 1: money they're gonna make while they're playing. And Travis Kelsey

768
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: had a unique kind of path. He was I don't

769
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: this might be strong, but a little bit of a

770
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: troubled child at the University of Cincinnati. He was suspended

771
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: for a season, so he was basically there six years

772
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: because he's a fifth year senior, but he he was

773
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: missed a season because it kicked him off the team.

774
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: And Jason Kelsey's brother also had some issues. And I

775
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: think I could lump Jason in this because he's had

776
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: all pro years in his Super Bowl champ they're just

777
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: those two guys were born to play NFL football. But

778
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: specifically Travis, like once he established himself, is one of

779
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: the better players in the league five or six years ago,

780
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: one of the better talents in the league. You always wonder, like, Okay,

781
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: he's got the physical attributes, he's with the right coach,

782
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: he's with the right scheme check then he's a third

783
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: round pick. So when you draft a guy in the

784
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: third round pick who becomes a star, you're basically paying

785
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: two dollars for a house that becomes worth ten million dollars.

786
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: But eventually, with the guy that becomes a star, you

787
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: have to pay them. And Travis Kelsey now has been

788
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: paid multiple times, no issue, zero drop off. Actually maybe

789
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: I'm crazy. It feels like he only plays harder. Then

790
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: when you become an All Pro and a pro bowler

791
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: and everyone's kind of blowing you as a star player,

792
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, eventually are you gonna take the foot off

793
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: the pedal? Nope? Still balling five straight seasons as of

794
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: Sunday night, with over a thousand yards receiving. Then with

795
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: the money, with the accolades, you become a champion. Literally,

796
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: your drive as a player, why you, as Bill Parcel says,

797
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: why you lift all them weights, why you spend all

798
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: that time at practice, why you watch all that film? Is?

799
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Speaker 1: The ultimate goal is to be a Super Bowl champion.

800
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: Right anything. When we're kids, if we're at Little league,

801
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: we're dreaming a winning World Series. If you're shooting baskets

802
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: by yourself, you're thinking about winning the you know NBA

803
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: Finals were shot to go to the final four. If

804
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: you're on a putting green, you're saying like this is

805
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: to win the Masters. If you're catching balls, playing catch

806
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: with your buddy and you're just kind of going through

807
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: the you know, foot tap on the sideline, like this

808
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: is to win the Super Bowl. Then you do it.

809
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: He's literally a Super Bowl champ. You could argue, if

810
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: it's see if his career would have ended after last year,

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00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: he'd been a borderline Hall of Famer. But I watched

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Speaker 1: him this year. He's on pace for his best statistical

813
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: category season in catches, in yards, in touchdowns. And when

814
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: you just watch him, you go the Kansei Chiefs. Mahomes

815
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: and Andy could yell at the defense, Travis Kelsey is

816
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: going to run a ten yard out. Get ready, Travis

817
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: Kelsey is gonna run a comeback. Travis Kelsey is gonna

818
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: run a screen. I don't think it would matter. This

819
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: guy right now is We talk a lot about Aaron

820
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Speaker 1: Donald being one of the best, you know, because quarterbacks

821
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: are in their own category, and then we lump in

822
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: every other player in the league. Is like, is this

823
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: guy the best player in the league? And I think

824
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: there's a shortlist. Aaron Donald's right there. I think Davante

825
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: Adams the way he's played is right there. I think

826
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey right now is right there. Because I'm watching

827
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Speaker 1: him against Fangio, I'm watching him against a team with

828
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Speaker 1: good safeties and they have no answer to him. They

829
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 1: can't do a damn thing. You know, He's gonna get

830
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: the ball over and over and over again, and they're

831
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Speaker 1: in a soul in the league that can cover him.

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Speaker 1: He is one of He's gonna go down eventually as

833
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: an all time great player. And I think what's cool

834
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: about all time great players is it wasn't about the money,

835
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't about the accolades. Honestly, it wasn't. I mean winning,

836
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: it is about winning. But like he won, so he

837
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: just clearly has the drive to want to win more.

838
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: I'll never forget here. And John Lynch described after they

839
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl in Tampa. But he's like, yeah,

840
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 1: that next year, you know a lot of backup players

841
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: showed up to training camp and brand new cars and

842
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: you turn on the television, or backup offensive lineman had

843
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: endorsement deals. He's like, I knew we were in trouble.

844
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm watching this Chiefs team going they're best players. Mahomes, Tyreeke,

845
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: and Kelsey play as hard as they ever have. What's

846
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: what else for these guys to accomplished Ben paid one.

847
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: I mean it's incredible, but I honestly, I think it

848
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: starts with him. He's the second best player of the team.

849
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: My home's the best. Travis Kelsey is the second best

850
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: and he It's crazy. I grew up going to Cow

851
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: games when Tony Gonzalz was on the team. Uh, my

852
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: dad loved Tony Gonzalez. I was huge fans. I actually

853
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: have a para Toni Gonzalez Chiefs gloves in my dresser

854
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: here in my office. When it's all said and done,

855
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: I think there's a decent chance Tony Gonzalez won't even

856
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: be viewed as the best tight end in Chief's history.

857
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: He's easily second or third best tight end. Ever, Travis

858
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: is going to pass him because he's playing on better teams.

859
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: He's a more dominant player now, Tony Pique. Tony Gonzalez

860
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: would have been incredible in this modern day football, right

861
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: no one could cover him, You couldn't hit him. He

862
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: would have dominated. But your heirs, your era, and this

863
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: guy is shattering or going to shatter records in terms

864
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: of yards, in terms of catches. He's gotta eat two

865
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,479
Speaker 1: catches right now. I mean they got five games left.

866
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: Is there a chance that when the dust settles, he's

867
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: got a hundred fifteen catches. He feels like he's getting

868
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: eight to ten a game. He's gonna end up with

869
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: fourteen touchdowns. I just can't say enough about watching a

870
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: guy that has accomplished everything financially can't like really get

871
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: paid anymore in terms of he's under They just extended

872
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: him this offseason and he's still kicking ass. It's just

873
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: it's it's everything you look for in a player. Uh,

874
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: you know when you acquire him, and the Chiefs clearly

875
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: back when they drafted him hit you know, a home run. Okay,

876
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: let's let's talk about Trevor Lawrence and the Jets, and

877
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: I just I my energy at this point in time.

878
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Greg Williams. I talked about the Raiders

879
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: on my other podcast. I had an Instagram post about

880
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: Greg Williams. No one's trying to tank, He's just an egomaniac,

881
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: dumb call. But here is a reality that big time

882
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: them losing that game, regardless how they got to there

883
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: is the is the right thing to do. But here's

884
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:02,959
Speaker 1: my question with the Jets and Trevor Lawrence. I don't

885
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: remember in recent memory a guy having this much hype.

886
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: And I've watched Trevor Lawrence. I like Trevor Lawrence. I'm

887
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna have to dig in a lot deeper text.

888
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: You know, the guys that really know what they're talking

889
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: about in the league, what they think about this guy.

890
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: But the hype on Trevor Lawrence, it couldn't be any

891
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: stronger right now. Remember with Andrew Luck, how big the

892
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: hype was sucked for Luck? But remember what Andrew did.

893
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: He took over a god awful team. It's not like

894
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 1: they improved that much, but he dominated playoffs every year

895
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: three straight years. Boom boom boom, and he just solidified

896
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: and validated the hype. Trevor Lawrence is gonna have to

897
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: be really good. There's gonna be no like, oh this

898
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: was all worth it, Like you were so terrible, oh

899
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: N sixteen, and we're all saying it's worth it because

900
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: the best prospect I'm trying to think in my lifetime,

901
00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: Shaquille O'Neal, Andrew Luck, Lebron James, Remember Bryce Harper and

902
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: baseball was pretty big Tiger when he when he left Stanford.

903
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: I mean it was really big. It's a short list

904
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: of people that are getting the Trevor Lawrence level hype,

905
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: and it's really been going strong now for about a

906
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: year and a half. So the pressure on this guy

907
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: going into the New York market, it's just gonna be enormous.

908
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: It's just it's just a simple fact because any time

909
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 1: you take over for a team that was O N sixteen,

910
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: the pressure on your squad is big. You know, when

911
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield got there, didn't they already have Miles Garrett.

912
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: They trade for Jarvis Landry, They then trade for Odell Beckham,

913
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: they draft Nick Chobb. I mean, it came together pretty quickly,

914
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: and his team was really good. Like I don't think

915
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna be that easy for the Jets to get

916
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: that good that fast. I mean that this team is

917
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: horrendously terrible. Can you even say that? Is that an oxymoron?

918
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: I guess it wouldn't be an oxymoron, but like a

919
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: double pronoun or, I don't even know that. Just they

920
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: can't be any worse, not not an English major clearly. So,

921
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: I the way we talk about Trevor Lawrence, anything beside

922
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: being an absolute superstar is gonna be a major disappointment.

923
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: Let's go to the Bears. I watched that game in

924
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: bed on MyPad late Sunday night, and I'm watching it

925
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: and you know what's crazy about when you don't watch

926
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: a game live and you already know the score and

927
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: you're watching the game, and was like under five minutes left,

928
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: the Bears are up ten, have the ball, and I'm

929
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, how do they lose this game? How's it?

930
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: How's it humanly possible? Then they then the Lions score

931
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: than Drabinsky fumbles and they end up losing. And now

932
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: they're five and seven and they've lost six straight games

933
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: and they're just terrible. And to me, the solution with

934
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: them is pretty simple, like the general managers got to go,

935
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: and I would imagine the new GM, you'd probably give

936
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: it a year with Matt NAGGI try to get a

937
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: quarterback a little bit like you know, Bob Quinn wants

938
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: to do do what Jim Calledwell, we've seen guys do it

939
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: forever with the Cleveland Browns, and you basically get that

940
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: one year grace period. Uh, but like there is a

941
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: chance they all get fired. I just have a hard

942
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: time saying that. Matt Naggie is just the village idiot.

943
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: Like everyone saying when his quarterback is Mitch Robiskie that

944
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 1: he didn't choose that guy. The general manager did, who

945
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: didn't tell a soul before he drafted him one of

946
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: the worst draft picks, because anytime he draft a quarterback

947
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: in the top two or three picks and he is

948
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: a bust, that is a gigantic swinging a miss. He

949
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: didn't tell anyone in the organization. Hell, the head coach

950
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: at the time, John Fox, didn't even know and he

951
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: drafted the guy. So how am I supposed to trust

952
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: that guy to run my franchise? You know who Brett

953
00:51:54,640 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: Veach wanted, Mahomes you, John Snyder wanted Russell Wilson. Like

954
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: it's like, is my GM know what he's doing or not? Hell,

955
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: even uh Spielman in Minnesota, Like I watched Kirk Cousins,

956
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: I went, well, this is a legitimate quarterback. I don't

957
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: love Kirk Cousins, but he's definitely not a scrub. Like

958
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: you can go to the playoffs every year with him,

959
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: Mitch watching Mr Biscuit, It's like, this is this is

960
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: a joke. It's awful. Guy should be in the a

961
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: F so I I understand the coach takes a lot

962
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: of heat, but he didn't put together this roster. It's

963
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: one of the organizations where the general manager has all

964
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: the power. Now Matt might lose his job. I don't know.

965
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 1: People keep asking me, I don't know how the Bears.

966
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about their ownership. I mean there

967
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 1: are articles coming out about the president, Ted Phillips losing

968
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: his job. Here's why I will say about the Bears

969
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: just in general. Historically they're kind of cheap. They're a

970
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: little old school in Corona. They probably haven't made near

971
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: I mean, clearly they haven't made nearly as much money

972
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: as they normally make with no fans. So maybe it's

973
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: spares some people. Maybe it doesn't, but that that was

974
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: a bad lost when you're up ten late in the game.

975
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: But the reason they lost is because Bisky fumbled on

976
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: like his own five or ten yard line, and then

977
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: a couple of plays later, Adrian Peterson runs in the

978
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 1: into the end zone. As a buddy in the league,

979
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: text me, bro, I tell you every time a coach

980
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: is fired, bet on that team. Look at the Detroit Lions.

981
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: I think I picked them in three for the money. Covered.

982
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: And again I'm watching the game going there is no

983
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: way this is possible, And of course it happens. The

984
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: Browns beating the Titans like that. I didn't see coming,

985
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: and I know the final score is close. I'm sorry

986
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: when you're up three to eight to seven, when you

987
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 1: when you start blowing out a team, and it's based

988
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: on game planning, and it's based on when teams actually

989
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: come in with their what they want to do, that

990
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: is the true sign of that team. When you're up

991
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: thirty eight to seven, it's human nature to go, this

992
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: game is over. How am I supposed to focus as much?

993
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 1: How is the defensive coordinator? Am I supposed to stay

994
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: consistent with my calls? Right I start? I I just

995
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: get a little conservative. I pull my guys back. I

996
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: give you some easy yards. So the Browns beat the

997
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: ship out of those guys. Absolutely killed him. And their

998
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: run game when it can dominate and give the play

999
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: action for Baker Mayfield. He was really good yesterday. He

1000
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: really was. He was actually fantastic. I'll say this is

1001
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 1: about the Titans of their defensive backfield is not very good.

1002
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to diminish the The Browns win but

1003
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: that was just you see the Titans flaws like they

1004
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: they their defense is pretty questionable, and they're just not

1005
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: really built to play from behind like that. They want

1006
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: to run the ball, control the clock, and have the lead.

1007
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: Same with the Browns, because that is their style. Then

1008
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: play action. That's how they kill you. They're not built

1009
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 1: to just go mahomes were Seattle. And speaking of Seattle,

1010
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: I saw one of the guys from PFF had the headline.

1011
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: It was on my Twitter timeline today. If Russell Wilson

1012
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: doesn't play like the m v P, Seattle looks terrible.

1013
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: They're are a flawed team. They don't have a great defense,

1014
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 1: they don't have a great run game. They're not good.

1015
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: They're not that good on either line of scrimmage. When

1016
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: he's playing at an all star Hall of Fame level,

1017
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: they can play with anyone. When he is just average,

1018
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: they're below average because the rest of their team is

1019
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: below average. Besides like two or three players, they are

1020
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: a very very flawed roster. Now, luckily, the most important

1021
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: thing in football is having a star quarterback, Like the

1022
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: most important thing in basketball is having a top five player.

1023
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: And if you have that guy, even if the rest

1024
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: of your team is flawed, You're gonna be okay. If

1025
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: I put Lebron James on your team and the other

1026
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: four starters are average to below, you're still gonna be

1027
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: a playoff team. You look at Seattle, most of their

1028
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: guys are averaged below beside like Jamal Adams, dk at Calf,

1029
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett, like, it's a small handful of guys that

1030
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: if he plays well, they can go. They can win

1031
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen games. But the reality is he can't play

1032
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,439
Speaker 1: well every game. He's a human, he plays quarterback. It's hard.

1033
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: He's gonna, you know, in sixteen games, probably gonna have

1034
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 1: four or five average games, and then even some of

1035
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: his good games you might lose. It's football, So they're

1036
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: gonna end up going probably i'd guess ten or eleven wins.

1037
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: But they are a very very flawed playoff team, and

1038
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: I still think they could probably win the division, but

1039
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: it's definitely up in the air now. I mean, technically

1040
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 1: the Rams are leading that division and Seattle's gotta play

1041
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: catch up. And Seattle already lost to him, so that

1042
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: that was probably I'd say the score of the Browns game,

1043
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: given that they you know, at one point in time,

1044
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 1: it was thirty eight to seven. Was probably the craziest

1045
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: score at that time of the day, But the craziest

1046
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: outcome of the day in my opinion, was easily the

1047
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: Giants beating Seattle, and if you watch that game in

1048
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: the second half kind of took it to him. I mean,

1049
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: Seattle couldn't do anything on offense. They drove down multiple

1050
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: times with Colt McCoy making plays. Who actually you watched him?

1051
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: You go, this guy's not terrible. I'm watching cold mccoygan. Yeah,

1052
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: that's pretty good backup quarterback. It kind of looks like

1053
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. Don't sleep on the Giants. Okay, let's go

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Speaker 1: middleoff mail back at John middlecoff is the Instagram handle

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Speaker 1: d ms wide open fire me a question. Also, just

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Speaker 1: to reiterate, subscribe to three and Out podcast Spotify, Apple iTunes,

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Speaker 1: leave review greatly appreciate it. Start with Joey, who looks

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Speaker 1: like he's making out with his girlfriend. His profile pick

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Speaker 1: I see you, Joey. Uh. Just watching the Washington Steeler game.

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Speaker 1: As a fan of eighteen years, I've seen a lot

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Speaker 1: of terrible seasons out of the Skins. With the addition

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Speaker 1: of rivera in the defense finally being piece together. Do

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Speaker 1: you think the football team, You're not even being funny,

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Speaker 1: just that's their name. The football team has a chance

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Speaker 1: to become actually good and make the playoffs consistently in

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Speaker 1: coming years. We'll just look at the division. Eagles might

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Speaker 1: fire their coach, their franchise quarterbacks, and shambles Cowboys. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm recording this before they play the Ravens. I would

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Speaker 1: assume they lose and they're having a god awful season.

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Speaker 1: What you know is Mike McCarthy gonna get fired. The

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Speaker 1: Giants looks like they got a good coach and are

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Speaker 1: just gonna be solid, but they got to add a

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Speaker 1: lot of talent, as Danny Dimes the guy your team

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Speaker 1: is a little bit like the Giants. Who's your quarterback? Though?

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Speaker 1: I mean I'd rather have Danny Dimes than you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously Dwayne Haskins irony, as they were in the same draft.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's about getting a quarterback. So if

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Speaker 1: you can, I don't know exactly how you'll do that

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Speaker 1: and who you'll get. I mean, Cam Newton will really

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Speaker 1: be available, but he's not any good anymore. I can't

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Speaker 1: see Ron Rivera wanting Jamis obviously Alexi. If he can

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Speaker 1: just function, they'll just keep him. But you need to

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Speaker 1: get a guy, a young guy. I mean, Ron Rivera

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Speaker 1: had a lot of success in Washington when they drafted Camp.

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Speaker 1: So can you trade up to get a guy that,

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Speaker 1: to me should be the goal getting a long term

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Speaker 1: answer at the quarterback position. But yeah, I mean Ron

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Speaker 1: Rivera is a good coach, you know. I think of

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Speaker 1: his eight years or whatever he went to I think

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Speaker 1: the playoffs four times, he just he wins. He's solid.

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Speaker 1: I believe in the guy. Curious to know what you

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Speaker 1: think of the Winston situation with the Saints, with Tayson

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Speaker 1: being Peyton's dude. If you're the GM, do you deal

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Speaker 1: Winston for picks or do you hold onto him for

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Speaker 1: next year? Appreciate the love for the military. To love

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Speaker 1: the military much love, Happy holidays, a preacher, appreciate your service.

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Speaker 1: I thought that Jamis Winston was on a one year contract.

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Speaker 1: I could be wrong. In my crazy Winston that will

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Speaker 1: pay him one million dollars. Yeah, he's just on a

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Speaker 1: one year deal, so you know they they gave him

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Speaker 1: a one year, one million dollar contract, so he's just

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Speaker 1: be a free agent. I don't think there's any you

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Speaker 1: can't trade him if even if he was on like

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Speaker 1: a two year, five million dollar contract, I don't think

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Speaker 1: he'd be able to trade him, at least for much.

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Speaker 1: I mean maybe a late round pick. I would What

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Speaker 1: I would do is I try to resign him. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if Breeze retires, I'd have him and Tastom would be

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Speaker 1: my two quarterbacks I'd keep. I'd keep Jamis unless they

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Speaker 1: don't like him, which he doesn't feel that way. I

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Speaker 1: think part of it is they just needed to tast

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Speaker 1: them to play, and he had his best game against

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Speaker 1: the Falcons. Now granted was a second time playing him.

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Speaker 1: I was watching when I was watching uh red Zone

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Speaker 1: and they went to that game and the broadcast came on.

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Speaker 1: They had a good point that he had told the

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Speaker 1: broadcasters like the day of the game, once they found

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Speaker 1: out the four quarterbacks went out, they he kind of realized, like,

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Speaker 1: I just have to not lose the game. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna not judge him as much on that Broncos

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Speaker 1: game anymore. And it turns out the Broncos aren't Broncos

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Speaker 1: are solid. You know, they're just quarterbacks. Are any good

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Speaker 1: question for the mail back Chargers loss of the Patriots

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Speaker 1: was just embarrassing. Should Chargers fire Anthony Lynne out or

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Speaker 1: wait until the season is over? Overall? What are the

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Speaker 1: pros and cons of firing coach in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the season compared to wait until the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: I saw rapp reports say that they're not going to

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Speaker 1: fire him, which to me is very par for the

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Speaker 1: course on how Dean Spanos doesn't want to pay anyone

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Speaker 1: not to work. I think the pros and the cons

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Speaker 1: are pretty simple. The cons would be, who do you

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Speaker 1: have anyone to just keep the boat, you know, steering

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Speaker 1: towards land right, even if you're not gonna get to land,

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Speaker 1: you just kind of need to keep it and not capsized, Like,

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Speaker 1: do they have anyone else on the staff that could

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Speaker 1: be their head coach? Gus Bradley's on the staff, but

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Speaker 1: he's not a good head coach, so why would you

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Speaker 1: want to make him be the head coach? Just write

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Speaker 1: it out. The pros are you have the Jaguars. I

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Speaker 1: guess the Jaguars still have a coach. You have the Falcons,

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Speaker 1: you have the Texans, you have the Lions. You have

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Speaker 1: three teams who are already starting the process, and clearly

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Speaker 1: you start the process even while you have a coach.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, they could interview people and if it

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Speaker 1: gets out, it's not even weird. Like when you have

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Speaker 1: a coach, you can't be interviewing people. I mean, technically

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Speaker 1: you can, but it's just a lot easier once you

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Speaker 1: fire a guy to do whatever you want to do.

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Speaker 1: And I doubt they will because I think they really

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Speaker 1: like Anthony Lynn. He's just simply not good enough. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think you do him a disservice. If you

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Speaker 1: fire him right now, you're still paying him, he still

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Speaker 1: gets his cash. You're gonna fire him in a month anyway,

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Speaker 1: you might as well fire him and start the process

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Speaker 1: of who's gonna be your next head coach? Watching the

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Speaker 1: Sunday night football game and wondering has there ever been

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Speaker 1: a bigger discrepancy of a defensive play caller that Vic

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Speaker 1: Fangio to check Pagano for the Bears. He's holding Casey

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Speaker 1: to six points in the first half and Pagano, with

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Speaker 1: an All Star team, is given up forty two and

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Speaker 1: thirty four and back to back weeks. It's depressing. Underrated

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Speaker 1: part about Matt Naggie falling apart a little bit, is

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Speaker 1: I would not if he didn't ask me. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with it. Clearly I would say,

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Speaker 1: don't touch check Pagano. I don't know the other options,

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Speaker 1: but I can't hire check Begotto to be my defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: He's just not smart enough, simply put. And Vic Fangio.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about this watching that Sunday night game.

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Speaker 1: I was like, is Vic Fangio the best defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: in football? And you probably go Belichick is, But it's

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Speaker 1: probably Belichick Zimmer. I know Zimmer's having a rough year

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Speaker 1: or whatever, but his team kind stinks. But when I

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Speaker 1: think defense in the NFL, I think Belichick, Fangio, Zimmer.

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Speaker 1: Those guys are just on a different level. I see Pogano,

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Speaker 1: you know you talk, we make fun of like chess

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Speaker 1: first checkers. What the hell is he doing? Like he?

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Speaker 1: Just guys are in no man's land. Khalil Mack doesn't

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Speaker 1: play very hard anymore. Do you think Khalil Mack wouldn't

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Speaker 1: play hard for Vic Fangio? That ship doesn't fly. Every

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Speaker 1: elite guy that's around Vic plays their ass off, whether

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Speaker 1: it's bowman willis Justin Smith and Alden Smith, whether it's

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Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, whether it's now Justin Simmons and Bradley Chubb.

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Speaker 1: There's just a stand or that goes and Chuck clearly

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Speaker 1: doesn't bring that out. On top of he's not dynamic

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Speaker 1: enough as a coordinator. Being a defensive coordinator is much

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Speaker 1: to me, much harder than be an offensive coordinator to

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Speaker 1: be a really good one, because you don't know what's coming.

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Speaker 1: But the good ones kind of do in a weird

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Speaker 1: way or have their guys coached up that even if

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Speaker 1: we don't know the exact play that's coming, we know

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Speaker 1: the concepts that are coming and we know how to

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Speaker 1: defend them. And I watch Fangio's defense, I go, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this guy's always know what to do. And I know

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Speaker 1: guys that have worked with Vic and they just go, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they get fucking brilliant. Vic Fangio is a badass. Is

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Speaker 1: he a good head coach? I don't know. He's not bad,

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Speaker 1: but it is he good? I don't know. He is

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Speaker 1: an elite defensive mind. Pagano's averages the day is long,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm with you. It's it's sad to watch

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Speaker 1: the Bears defense just gets smoked and just a lot

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Speaker 1: of times it looks like they have no clue where

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Speaker 1: they're going. Okay, last question here. I saw melk Kuiper

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Speaker 1: on ESPN giving Kyle Trask a second round great. It

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Speaker 1: made me think of your take the other day. Have

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Speaker 1: you've never taken a quarterback in the second round? To me,

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Speaker 1: he seems dead in the water in the NFL if

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Speaker 1: he's a six ft five statute standing in the pocket

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Speaker 1: with no mobility. Also thoughts on Mac Jones for Bama

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Speaker 1: becoming a legit NFL prospect. I think I like Mac

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Speaker 1: Jones more as an NFL prospect than Kyle Trask because

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Speaker 1: can I draft Mac Jones and like the third or

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Speaker 1: fourth round? I'm with you, I don't do second round quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: I'm not drafting Cayl Trask in the first round, and

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely not wasting to pick on him in the

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Speaker 1: second round. But if I get Mac Jones in the fourth,

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Speaker 1: I like that. I mean, the problem with mac Jones

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Speaker 1: is he's planning with I mean DeVante Smith rugs last

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Speaker 1: year at the end of the season when he had

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Speaker 1: Rugs Judy Waddle and he had Waddle for a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's receivers or I think I saw Jerry

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Speaker 1: Judy tweeting on Saturday night. Is Alabama now wide receiver you?

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Speaker 1: And the answer might be yeah, Julio Amari all those

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Speaker 1: cats Holy moly. Um. But Mac Jones was a beautiful

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Speaker 1: deep ball. He looks more athletic than Kyle Trash. I'll

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Speaker 1: be completely honest. I haven't super locked in on Florida games.

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Speaker 1: I know he's having a great statistical game. I had

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Speaker 1: friends in the NFL that they were just not buying

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Speaker 1: the hype a couple of weeks ago. Maybe they've changed.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna see those guys play in a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks when they Florida plays Bam in the SEC Championship game. Uh.

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Speaker 1: But I like Mac Jones more as a later round

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Speaker 1: guy than I do Kyle Trash up near the top.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't touch him in the second one. I don't

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Speaker 1: like Kyle Trash that much as the NFL prospect, But again,

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Speaker 1: I probably need to watch a little more of them.

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Speaker 1: That might be unfair to say. I guess I got

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Speaker 1: too much unknown right now on Kyle. But what I

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Speaker 1: had known about him before when I watched them earlier

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Speaker 1: in the year and just texting my buddies in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: like I wasn't my cup of tea, and not that

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Speaker 1: mac Jones really is either. You can't be a stiff.

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Speaker 1: If you can't move in the NFL, you can't play.

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Speaker 1: Those days are over. It's one thing to be one

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Speaker 1: of these guys that are in their late thirties, is

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Speaker 1: how they play. You're not coming to the league like that.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't work, it's not happening. So you gotta have

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Speaker 1: some mobility. So I would have to ask around, like

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Speaker 1: how immobile is Kyle because again his stats, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: win the Heisman. Mac Jones had a good year too,

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Speaker 1: But mac Jones is not as highly touted as of

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Speaker 1: a guy, and maybe Cole's not either. I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't know enough. I haven't asked enough people in the

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Speaker 1: end of I haven't asked anybody in the NFL really

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Speaker 1: in a while what they like, where they rank them

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Speaker 1: as first round guy, second round guy. But but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate everyone listening. Enjoy the week, hell and enjoy

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Speaker 1: the NFL football on Tuesday night. See at the end

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Speaker 1: of the week. God speed. Subscribe to the pod see

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Speaker 1: you later.