WEBVTT - Roman Reigns Challengers/Stephanie McMahon News

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready, Ready,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get it all. How's it going, everybody, Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 1>here on Wrestling Observer Live. We're here every day Monday

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<v Speaker 1>through Friday, New Pacific, three Eastern Sunday three Pacific, sixth Eastern. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Friday here on this program, and you know what

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<v Speaker 1>that means. We got a lot of news we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about here today, and by the grace of the Good Lord,

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<v Speaker 1>none of it is about Sasha and Naomi. No update

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<v Speaker 1>today whatsoever, So we can talk about other things. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's plenty of things to talk about today. We got news,

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<v Speaker 1>not the least of which obviously, is the departure of

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<v Speaker 1>Stephanie McMahon from w w E. She is taking a

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<v Speaker 1>leave of absence, and we'll give you some details on that.

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<v Speaker 1>And what details we don't give you, well, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>we can ask Dave Meltzer about it, because he will

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<v Speaker 1>be on the show in the second segment of the

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<v Speaker 1>program today talking about all of the biggest news in

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<v Speaker 1>the newst edition of the Wrestlings. A guess probably means

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<v Speaker 1>we will have to talk about Sasha Naomi here today,

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<v Speaker 1>but also in the final segment of the show, we

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<v Speaker 1>will be joined by j Bradley, one half of the

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<v Speaker 1>fixers at Tag Team, along with Wrecking Ball Logurski. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe may have once feud with Bruno Sammartino. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a lot of fun stuff to get into today.

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<v Speaker 1>So all the news we got the A W Dynamite

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<v Speaker 1>ratings show did very well. We have got to look

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<v Speaker 1>at who the next likely challengers are for Roman reigns,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, we ain't got none, but the three

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<v Speaker 1>challengers spoiler here are pretty much the three challengers that

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about four weeks now as potential challengers

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<v Speaker 1>for Roman. Rais Rick Flair talked about criticism of his

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<v Speaker 1>scheduled match at Star Cast five or Is. He essentially said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about the money, and I'm not sure anybody

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<v Speaker 1>actually I thought he was only doing it for the money.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the criticism was more you have a pacemaker

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<v Speaker 1>and you want to wrestle at seventy three. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>he talks about that, we got a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to get into. Mikes and Pervid join us after the

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<v Speaker 1>break lots of folks joining the program today, O kaick

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<v Speaker 1>it off after the break Observer Live back in the show,

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<v Speaker 1>Bran Albert is here Wrestling Observer Live, Mikes and Burvivi

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<v Speaker 1>also Wrestling Observer dot Com. Thank god, stephan even command

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<v Speaker 1>is taking leave of absence so I don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>open the show talk about Sasha Naomi today. Oh, come on.

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<v Speaker 1>In the new edition of the Wrestling Observer newsletter, Dave

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<v Speaker 1>Meltzer provided an update on Stephanie McMahon's leave of absence

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<v Speaker 1>from w w E, which she announced yesterday and which

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<v Speaker 1>in fact cut most people in the company off guard.

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<v Speaker 1>She announced Thursday she's taking a leave of absence from

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<v Speaker 1>quote the majority of her responsibilities with w w E.

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<v Speaker 1>She wrote she looks forward to returning to the company

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<v Speaker 1>after taking this time away to focus on her family.

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<v Speaker 1>Melts reports he leave of absence was one Stephanie's choice

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<v Speaker 1>and had been coming for some time, even though the

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<v Speaker 1>announcement was a surprise to most, he wrote, this came

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<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere. Most talent and those in the office

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<v Speaker 1>and creative didn't know about it until they heard that

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<v Speaker 1>she tweeted it. There were definitely a few people who

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<v Speaker 1>knew and knew the background, but they weren't saying much past.

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<v Speaker 1>There is more to it, but the basic reason given,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not inaccurate. The part about leaving a focus on

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<v Speaker 1>her family is definitely part of it. Was obviously a

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<v Speaker 1>tough year with Paula Veck being out for so long,

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<v Speaker 1>and she had to pick up a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>responsibilities and obviously had to deal from a family standpoint

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<v Speaker 1>with his health issues. Is back in the office full

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<v Speaker 1>time now, so he's in the office full time, but

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<v Speaker 1>she's taking a leave of absence. There's no time frame

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<v Speaker 1>for return. We are told she is returning. All kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of speculation has transpired. You know what I need this

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<v Speaker 1>week is more speculation. The only thing we were told

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<v Speaker 1>directly and that this was her choice. This has been

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<v Speaker 1>coming for some time, not something that happened out of nowhere,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it would appear because ovitually nobody knew anything

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<v Speaker 1>except a few who had kept it totally quiet until

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<v Speaker 1>just before she released the info. But she was on

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<v Speaker 1>four store pressure. It was her choice. As far as

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<v Speaker 1>what it means for the future, that at this point

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<v Speaker 1>would be all speculation. She was the public face of

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<v Speaker 1>the company had been pushed by the company to be

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<v Speaker 1>positioned as one of the leading female sports executives in

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<v Speaker 1>the country. Company President Nick con will be taking over

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<v Speaker 1>her duties and those who reported to her will now

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<v Speaker 1>be reporting to him. Stephanie besides being chief brand officer,

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<v Speaker 1>what if Brandy is available to take that job over

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<v Speaker 1>for a while member of the company's board of directors,

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<v Speaker 1>and aside from Vince, was the only original McMahon family

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<v Speaker 1>member still working for the company. She owns two point

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of the company, which would be valued at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. That was yesterday. Yesterday it was a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen million dollars who knows about today. In a role

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<v Speaker 1>as Chief Brand Officers, she's responsible for ensuring w w

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<v Speaker 1>e's global brand strength and growth. Although let's be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>Stephanie McMahon was not responsible for ensuring the global strength

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<v Speaker 1>and growth of w w E. Many many people are

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for that. But best wishes to her. Hopefully everything

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<v Speaker 1>works out great and she can return soon. At the

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<v Speaker 1>update on Stephanie mc man, it's gonna be a nutty

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<v Speaker 1>day now. It sounds like you gotta beef with the sources. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about? They were they report things.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where the speculation comes in. And now I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about speculation from these fans, it runs rampant. I'm turning

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<v Speaker 1>into a w w E heel. These fans are driving

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<v Speaker 1>me out of my mind, you know, maybe out of

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<v Speaker 1>her mind right now. When you have three kids, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all only a couple of years apart, and she's had

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<v Speaker 1>a long year, and that's something that a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they talked about triple HP and out and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and Stephanie continuing on and how this affected n XD

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<v Speaker 1>and all this stuff. But it's you know, because we

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes don't put it in, don't think about this of

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<v Speaker 1>this is a family with three young kids twelve, fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and sixteen years old, that it's tough and this may

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<v Speaker 1>be the best time to try to take a break,

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<v Speaker 1>because I would assume Stephanie Man, even though she's got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of options outside w w E, is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be back inside w w E until that company

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<v Speaker 1>is sold and you know, until I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know when you're you're scheduled to take a break again

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<v Speaker 1>in a in a business that's relentless, with a focus

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<v Speaker 1>like her father, that is relentless it is every day,

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<v Speaker 1>every moment, you know, spent thinking about wrestling and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to drive the business forward. When are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>take another break again? So maybe with what happened with

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<v Speaker 1>Triple H it was a stein to stop and go, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, appreciate what you got right now, Slow up,

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<v Speaker 1>he's back to work. Let's ease off the pedal here

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit and take some time before we go

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<v Speaker 1>back and and kick this thing back into year again.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're obviously in safe hands. No matter what anybody

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<v Speaker 1>wants to say about Nick kN being the reaper of

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<v Speaker 1>the McMahon family and forcing people out and all that

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<v Speaker 1>other nonsense. I mean, my god, he's a great businessman.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been fantastic for that company. They obviously worked together

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<v Speaker 1>great to get the TV deals through. They hire them

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<v Speaker 1>from CIA or where William Morris wherever exactly he was from,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's been nothing but a success for them. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's Vince mc ants company. Nikkoon is doing great for them.

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<v Speaker 1>If there's a time to step back, this is certainly

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<v Speaker 1>a good time to do it. You know. I I uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I made a big mistake yesterday. I broke my own rule.

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<v Speaker 1>I I went and I read some of the comments

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<v Speaker 1>on yesterday's Observer live on on YouTube. What a stupid

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do? How was it? Well, you know, normally,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, I'll argue with people and everything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's rare that I really get irritated. But man,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody on there made some comment about you had mentioned, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how come there's not the fury over Tony Storm? And

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<v Speaker 1>this guy goes, well, it's because she's white, and dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, bro, on the list of differences in

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<v Speaker 1>the two situations, the color of their skin is at

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom. Okay, Like yes, Tony Storm decided she did

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<v Speaker 1>want to do this anymore and she went home. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys realized that like she was putting. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the storyline actually where they wanted to rip her

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<v Speaker 1>shirt off and everything like that, which they didn't do.

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<v Speaker 1>They ended up doing the pie in the face or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But like she endured that storyline. She was put in

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<v Speaker 1>a feud with Charlotte Flair for the title. She lost

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<v Speaker 1>a match or she I can't remember what the first

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<v Speaker 1>match was, but they had one match and it was

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<v Speaker 1>d Q ending, and then they built up to a

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<v Speaker 1>championship match on TV where she was gonna go in

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<v Speaker 1>and she was gonna do the job. Okay, now, if

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Storm had showed up in the building and then

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes into the show, when she was told that

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<v Speaker 1>she needed to do a job, she quit and walked out. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd you'd be close to what happened with with Sasha

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<v Speaker 1>and Naomi, but she didn't. She showed up the building,

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<v Speaker 1>she was told she had to do the job, She

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<v Speaker 1>went into the ring, she did the match, she did

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<v Speaker 1>the job. She literally finished out the entire storyline. It

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<v Speaker 1>was done. And then afterwards, when the show was over,

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<v Speaker 1>she went home. And and and so the conclusion you've

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<v Speaker 1>come to, why why there is there is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a different reaction to what you know Sasha Naomi did

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<v Speaker 1>when they showed up at the building, were given us,

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<v Speaker 1>given a one month storyline. And I don't even get

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<v Speaker 1>into this thing about how you know there were no

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<v Speaker 1>plans after Helen his Cell given it. There are no

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<v Speaker 1>There were no plans for them Monday, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>given plans. But apparently having no plans after Helen his

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<v Speaker 1>Cell is worse than having no plans right now. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>they showed up and they were they were Actually they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't even told they were doing a job. Naomi was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna win, and they decided We're gonna walk out at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the show and just leave now. Somehow

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<v Speaker 1>some of you see this as the same thing. How

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<v Speaker 1>and then when it's obviously not the same thing. Literally,

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<v Speaker 1>all you can come up with is to why the

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<v Speaker 1>reaction is different. Is well, Tony Storm is white get out?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you understand though, why people of color, especially women,

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<v Speaker 1>may have a distinct different opinion on some of this

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<v Speaker 1>matter and may factor in other things, uh, to to

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<v Speaker 1>have the reaction that they do. Can you see why

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<v Speaker 1>some people with the history of w W, how people

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<v Speaker 1>are treated, even again, even if Sasha has been up

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<v Speaker 1>strappers in the past, do you see why they may

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<v Speaker 1>be looking at this, seeing Naomi doing this and having

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<v Speaker 1>a certain feeling or feeling a certain way. I I

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<v Speaker 1>find it difficult that you can't understand why there may

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<v Speaker 1>be some cynicism over the reports they came out. Not cynicism,

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<v Speaker 1>This is trolling somebody. Okay, serious, you're battling, You're trying.

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<v Speaker 1>There is disingenuous people out there that will use anything

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<v Speaker 1>that is true. But there are again, two things can

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<v Speaker 1>be true, and how somebody looks at something, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they there is a reason that some people are looking

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<v Speaker 1>at this in the way that they are, and looking

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<v Speaker 1>at it with a side I with it and not

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<v Speaker 1>just jumping right in and seeing what w W. How

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<v Speaker 1>they responded when they've never responded like that before. They

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<v Speaker 1>built it into their show on Monday when they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to. They made the big deal out of this.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, they walked out at the beginning of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>They walked out five minutes into the show. They quit

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle line did you bring this up back

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<v Speaker 1>at a moment? Observer begging the show. Bright alb is

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<v Speaker 1>here Wrestling Observer Live Mix, umber Viv also Wrestling Observer

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com. Day. Let's talk about Stephanie or something. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to talk about? Well, what's up? She's

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<v Speaker 1>taking a leap of absence um to spend more time

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<v Speaker 1>with her family and other reasons which I'm not exactly

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<v Speaker 1>fully clear of, but that's the public reason. And she'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back some time, and that's about it. She's not

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<v Speaker 1>gone forever, but I don't but there is no date

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<v Speaker 1>for her return either. But Triple Ah is going to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to work full time in the office. Yes, he's

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<v Speaker 1>still working full time in the office. Yes, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess we'll see what happens here. But would would you

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<v Speaker 1>describe what she did as uh more a figurehead rule?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how big, how big issues is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>her leaving and everyone had taken up her in in

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<v Speaker 1>in what's I mean? She was the public face of

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<v Speaker 1>the company in the sense that like if they had

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like uh, um, let's just say like somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody wants a w W person to uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do a symposium or something, she would be the one

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<v Speaker 1>that they would send. You know, she would do the

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<v Speaker 1>buzzwords and everything like that. Um, you know, it's very

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<v Speaker 1>you know, public relations with key people and everything, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>keep in touch moves, you know, things like that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>creative wise, she had nothing to do with creative at all.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Sometimes like you know, and obviously you know

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<v Speaker 1>in the past she ran creative, but that's years and

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. Sometimes when people go Stephanie Mcanhn blah blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah creative and it's like that was a very valid

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<v Speaker 1>point ten years ago. But she is I mean, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she has like literally nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 1>creative So it's not in that sense. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be seeing any changes. But you know, as far

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<v Speaker 1>as if you were, um, you know, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>main sponsors or a media person or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a it's probably the person in the

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<v Speaker 1>company who may have been your contact point. Yeah, alright,

0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.320
<v Speaker 1>so obviously knew she of the observers up. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to read more about Stephanie, it is in the

0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Observer Wrestling Observer at dot com and uh and a

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<v Speaker 1>ton about Sasha Banks and Naomi. We're trying to avoid

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<v Speaker 1>that topic here today. Is there anything new this morning?

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<v Speaker 1>If there's no, just say no and we'll move on. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing new this morning on it that that isn't

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<v Speaker 1>in the issue. And I guess if you if you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't read the issue, there's a ton in the issue.

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<v Speaker 1>But but since I wrote the issue, I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>know nothing since since last night. Okay, So the Roman

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<v Speaker 1>reigns needs opponents even though he's not around. Well, he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't need opponents because he's gonna be working three shows

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<v Speaker 1>this summer. So yeah, he's gonna be working three shows

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<v Speaker 1>this sung. You know, maybe maybe maybe, maybe a TV

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<v Speaker 1>or a house show two but three three big shows? Yeah? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so who do we got to? The obvious? Riddle? Riddle,

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<v Speaker 1>Orton and Drew McIntyre the leading candidates right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's great, great idea to pin Riddle in that six man. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure we're not gonna see him pinning again

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of times. You're probably right about that. So

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<v Speaker 1>what is what is roman schedule for this summer? And

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<v Speaker 1>is there any discussion about splitting these belts up so

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<v Speaker 1>we actually have a champion again, which I never thought

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, because I advocated putting the championships together.

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<v Speaker 1>But I expect the champion to then leave. Yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>everyone expected, you know, I mean, like the whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>was just they're eventually gonna have two champions. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know when. But his schedule was July twond

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean, he's gonna work TVs to build

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<v Speaker 1>up these shows. But his three big matches July second, Vegas,

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<v Speaker 1>July thirty in Nashville, and September three in Cardiff, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the three stadium shows. Um. I don't think he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be doing any pay per views besides those. Um, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not in Chicago. Um, and after that, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be surprised to people Survivor series and then uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, um, we'll see what happens. You know, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>in a world rumble and Wrestleman, he'll be all over.

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<v Speaker 1>We were talking about the XFL and Saudi shows. Help

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<v Speaker 1>he worked the Saudie shows, would you know? Almost for sure? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about the XFL deal, the new TV

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<v Speaker 1>deal and the season kicking off and everything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I gotta thinking, I don't know what your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts are, but you know, Rock's got a very very

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<v Speaker 1>busy filming schedule. Yes he does, but he's also got

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<v Speaker 1>the kickoff of the XFL, so to speak, which is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be very time consuming. Yes, And so my

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<v Speaker 1>my thought was, you know, is it possible that he

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<v Speaker 1>is going to do zero movie commitments for the first

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<v Speaker 1>quarter of which would allow him to do WrestleMania without

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<v Speaker 1>having to worry about movie commitments and also have the

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<v Speaker 1>time to help launch the first season of the XFL.

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<v Speaker 1>So actually, the timing for doing a WrestleMania match would

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<v Speaker 1>be excellent this year because he has two different projects

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<v Speaker 1>which would require him to uh uh, take time off

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<v Speaker 1>from movies. Well, I'm sure at this point he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know anyway, you know what I mean. It's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like ideas will come to him if and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on what the projects are that he has to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, WrestleMania is not going to be number one

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<v Speaker 1>on his priority list. Um, if he's got some big

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<v Speaker 1>blockbuster movie thing coming up for a new TV show,

0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:55.520
<v Speaker 1>he's got a film, he's got young Rock, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. I mean, um, thankfully the travel isn't

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<v Speaker 1>so bad. I mean, the travel tuation is so bad,

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<v Speaker 1>like last year when you know, he wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>a show but he was in Australia and he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>go back and forth. But um, I mean, you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's always you know, until January, it's you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna do WrestleMania against Roman Reigns or not, that's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, until January, it's just a hypothetical. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>in January, I'll have a better idea. But now you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's six months from really knowing if he'll be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. I I'm still skeptically he's gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>this match. But if if he if he doesn't What

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<v Speaker 1>in the world do they have for WrestleMania next year? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a lot of times in July they have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what they're gonna be doing a WrestleMania next year.

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<v Speaker 1>But well, I mean, even if you have no idea,

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<v Speaker 1>what idea could you come up with? You got you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get somebody. Really, you've crushed everybody. Braun Breaker wins

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<v Speaker 1>the Rumble braun Breaker Gable Steveson. I don't know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, you know, I mean, maybe there's

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<v Speaker 1>another celebrity that we haven't thought about the like, can't

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<v Speaker 1>even come up with a name bad Bunny to push

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<v Speaker 1>this movie and his new action role. Right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this seems to be a Cody I mean right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's it's more likely Cody than Braun

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<v Speaker 1>I should be um, yeah, yeah, I would say, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say, if it's not Rock, I would say Cody

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<v Speaker 1>is the favorite. Yeah, which means you have to protect

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<v Speaker 1>Cody and make sure that he is untouchable for them

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<v Speaker 1>get out of here. Would be ridiculous. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>it would be. Well, if it was I mean he should,

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<v Speaker 1>but if it was me, I would I would make

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<v Speaker 1>him untouchable, but that's gonna be very challenging for people

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<v Speaker 1>who thrive on booking to do that. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>could lose. He could lose if it's done the right

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<v Speaker 1>way a couple of times, you know, but I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do Actually, maybe once, but you know, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we've we're gonna find out a lot in

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks because it'll be the third Seth

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<v Speaker 1>rollins Cody match, and Cody has won both of the

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<v Speaker 1>other matches. So in a fifty company, I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>either losing or we're gonna get a very rare guy

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<v Speaker 1>wins all three matches against top star, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>they should do. It's like I think Seth I make

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<v Speaker 1>any difference whatsoever for him. I think that there's no

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<v Speaker 1>argument for Seth winning this match. I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 1>an argument. There's no logical argument. But the argument would be, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Cody beat him twice, so he's that's not that's not

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a valid argument. It's not a valid argument.

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<v Speaker 1>Telling you what their argument would be because they're all

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<v Speaker 1>about yeah, but the thing is the thing the thing

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<v Speaker 1>is is that without a doubt, Cody going for the

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<v Speaker 1>championship is something that they're going to do. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>until they get there, Seth Rollan shouldn't beating him. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean afterwards, like let's say Cody gets his run whatever, um,

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<v Speaker 1>Seth can beat him then. But now, no, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it doesn't make it. I can't. I cannot come

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<v Speaker 1>with a valid argument to beat before or he gets

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<v Speaker 1>a championship match. Well, if it's just a matter of

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<v Speaker 1>he gets beat by a better man because it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a gimmick match, you don't give Seth and out that way,

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<v Speaker 1>then what do you do with Seth? Then? What Seth?

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<v Speaker 1>Seth's next step on that rock? He works with somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else that's been in that positions, like Kevin Owens. Those

0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:20.639
<v Speaker 1>guys that are kind of recycled, they work with other people,

0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:24.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean Seths not wrestling Roman Cody is.

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<v Speaker 1>So Cody should win. Well, let me ask you this,

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<v Speaker 1>since we're talking about the lack of depth on the roster,

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<v Speaker 1>and they always go back to what they know. A

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<v Speaker 1>guy that they can always go back to that people

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<v Speaker 1>really believe in, is Kevin Owens. Is there a way

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<v Speaker 1>that even though we've seen things a zillion times with

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Owens and pretty much everybody except for Cody. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there a way to always bring Kevin Owens back like

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<v Speaker 1>Lazarus in case you need him to be a World

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<v Speaker 1>championship contender for a pay per view? They could do it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they could eat somebody up. Um. It would be tough,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, I mean, the brand draws anyway. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't even matter the matches that much. If you call

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<v Speaker 1>it WrestleMania, people are gonna buy ticket. So yes, Kevin's

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<v Speaker 1>very talented and they you know, I wouldn't think you

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<v Speaker 1>would be high on the list, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>if worse comes to worse, can you put him there?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you can. Yeah, what the hell happened to this? Uh?

0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Women's audience for n XT this week? Good god, what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>What what do you mean? I mean you mean the

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<v Speaker 1>rating being up or no, the women's viewership was like

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<v Speaker 1>all time, all time record lows. Oh, I did not

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<v Speaker 1>see that. I didn't even look closely at the at

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers. I just know that the n XT number

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<v Speaker 1>itself was way up from the week. Yeah, the NXT

0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:37.719
<v Speaker 1>number was way up, but I think it was a

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<v Speaker 1>women eighteen and forty nine was a zero point zero five.

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<v Speaker 1>They've done that before. They've done that before. So all

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<v Speaker 1>the dudes heard it was an all women show and

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<v Speaker 1>decided to come back to the show. And all the

0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:50.400
<v Speaker 1>women said, I heard it was an all women show.

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<v Speaker 1>We hate Tiffany Stratton. We're out of here. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>what happened? Brian? I don't know. I haven't They've done

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<v Speaker 1>They've done Um, they've done lower than that with women before.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like I normally, I mean the eighteen to

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four number that they usually do is like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>o point oh seven anyway, and it's more guys than women,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's not that unusual really, I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, um, yeah, that's not that's not that

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<v Speaker 1>an unusual over number. That is a very low female

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<v Speaker 1>viewership for a program. Yeah, well, listen to New Observer.

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<v Speaker 1>today to be joined by j Bradley. When we talked

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<v Speaker 1>some n w A here and really the Boss, the

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<v Speaker 1>Boss o duds. We're we're trying so hard to not

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the Boss on this show here today,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will allow you to be the Boss. Just

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<v Speaker 1>no talking about Sasha Banks. That's the other rule in

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<v Speaker 1>the show. No swearing and no talking about Sasha Banks today. Man. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine, all right. Listen when I when I, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was, I was looking at all this

0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:53.680
<v Speaker 1>information everything like that, and you mentioned, uh the Fixers

0:24:53.760 --> 0:25:00.120
<v Speaker 1>tag team Wrecking Ball of gir Sky. Years ago, I

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 1>was approached by somebody to have a match with Larry Sweeney.

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 1>It's about two thousand seven, and at the time I

0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:08.879
<v Speaker 1>didn't know who Larry Sweeney was. And I heard the

0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 1>name Larry Sweeney, and I thought, this guy has got

0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:13.919
<v Speaker 1>to be like fifty five years old, like you know,

0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 1>he had to start working like the sixties or seventies,

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Larry Sweeney, and it turned out he was younger than

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:22.119
<v Speaker 1>I was. But wrecking Ball Lagursky. Are we sure that

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:27.160
<v Speaker 1>he didn't feud with Bruno San Martino. I think he'd

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:30.120
<v Speaker 1>probably be right up Bruno's alley back of the day.

0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, little ethnic origin to the name from the Northeast.

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure if you know Vince sr. Was around,

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 1>he had his eyes on wrecking Ball Laskey to face

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Bruno in the garden and h Boston and uh the

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 1>big one for his people that don't know Madison Square Guarden.

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:52.680
<v Speaker 1>You know people know that kind of stuff. Well, Mr

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Mr Bradley, I don't know if if you're if you're

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 1>aware of this boss, but uh, the boss here on

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:04.480
<v Speaker 1>this Brian Alvarez. He wants Barton stormed around the Ohio

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Valley area, a place that you spent a significant period

0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:11.880
<v Speaker 1>of time and alongside people like Danny Davis and Rip

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Roger Shirley and of course Al Snow, people Brian has

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:18.119
<v Speaker 1>has run across in the past. What was that like

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:21.880
<v Speaker 1>for you? Certainly a unique group of men, all three

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:25.080
<v Speaker 1>of those men are certainly they are throwbacks, much like

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:28.439
<v Speaker 1>a wrecking ball. Lagursky, name is, what was it like

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 1>for you dealing out there with ov W and what

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:34.879
<v Speaker 1>did you learn? I learned a lot in O v W.

0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's probably one of the top end

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:45.240
<v Speaker 1>places to learn the business of pro wrestling in general. UM.

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I consider Danny Davis and al mentors to this day,

0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 1>so you can blame them for all of my antics.

0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Uh and then you know, pass up blame to Lagurski

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:58.879
<v Speaker 1>as well, because it's usually one of them that have

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 1>made me you what I do. UM. You know, it's

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 1>it's a very unique place, unique personalities, but it's very

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:11.440
<v Speaker 1>old school as far as its approach. UM, as far

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:15.679
<v Speaker 1>as you know, working uh a territory. They still employ

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 1>that as far as you know, with the live event

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 1>structure they look to have. And then how you place

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:27.920
<v Speaker 1>it off of television, UM, on a weekly episodic television format,

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 1>so you get that experience on top of you know,

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:33.879
<v Speaker 1>the standard wrestling training that you're gonna get it just

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:38.399
<v Speaker 1>about any academy or school out there, so um, you know,

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>and I've always dug the Louisville area. It kind of

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>reminds me of some places of Chicago and a much

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 1>smaller scale. So always felt at home there. So I

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 1>do try to venture down there here and there. I

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 1>haven't lately, Um, but I was there prior to COVID

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.199
<v Speaker 1>and on and off with some other antics that I

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 1>had going on in my career, and um, I always

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:02.680
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed my time there. You know, you've you've been around

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.160
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. And uh, you just called? Did

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:08.239
<v Speaker 1>you just call? I didn't say you were old. I

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:14.160
<v Speaker 1>said you've been around for a long time. Well, of

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>course you're a you're a grizzled young veteran. But yes,

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:22.200
<v Speaker 1>you when I look at this, you know deep South

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Ohio Valley and uh, you know Florida Championship Wrestling and

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 1>and now in w A and w W and everything

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 1>like that. I mean I did wrestle. Yes, he doesn't

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 1>know about you, and you do your homework. I did. Well. Listen,

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>if I rattled off all the places you've been, the

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 1>segment would end. But my point is, as a man

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 1>who who has been to these various places during his career,

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 1>this business has changed so much and I want to

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 1>get your your thoughts on that, because when Mike mentioned

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 1>like the old school O v W and Danny Davis

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 1>and Rip Rogers, and you know, I'm I'm looking at

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 1>these names and I watched the show every single week.

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 1>They would send me the the DVDs of the ov

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 1>W TV show and I watched that every single week.

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Jamin all Events is the champion. I mean. But when

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 1>you look back at it, I mean, that was a

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 1>different business in a lot of ways than it is today.

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>So what are your thoughts on on all of the

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 1>changes that you've seen during your career? Oh wow, that's

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>a that's a deep question. You you wrote that one

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 1>down earlier in the week, didn't you know it's one

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 1>of my go to use. Oh okay, well it's a

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 1>good go. Do you put that in your pocket for later? Yes?

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I you can't help if you've been in there. I

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 1>know you've been around the business for a while. To Brian,

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, as a fan and then you know doing

0:29:55.040 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 1>your stick here reporting on it and interacting and publicizing. Um,

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, I got in this business over twenty years ago.

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 1>And you know, even if you put a start point

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 1>where I signed with w B and I was in

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Deep South like that, you know what what happens in

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 1>that ring, you know, has been the same in a

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>way since the beginning of time. You know, it's competitors,

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>and we're putting in an athletic competition to to to

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 1>an end supposed to mean something that's supposed to you know,

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 1>push a story forward or uh, you know, elevate a talent,

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever you want to spin an ads. But

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 1>ultimately it all comes down to selling tickets and putting

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 1>eyes on your product in your match. But you know,

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I said, go back to that start point of Deep South, Like,

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, social media wasn't a thing. YouTube I think

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 1>broke right around that time, and that was like taboo,

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, Twitter, and you know, I think Facebook and

0:30:56.200 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 1>MySpace were just in its infancy phases. Tom. So it's

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 1>like Deep South searching for a television outlet when I

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 1>was there, but we were still filming TV to air

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>at a later date. Now it's just you know, anybody,

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 1>you know essentially can have some sort of television product

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube or a streaming service, um, depending on what

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 1>quality you're going to get or the production of values.

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 1>But the opportunity is there and the exposure is there

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 1>for you know, new companies and existing companies, talent and otherwise.

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:33.719
<v Speaker 1>With with social media. Um so, I would say, like

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>all the all the stuff around the businesses altered and

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 1>changed dramatically, but what it does inside the ring or

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 1>inside the arena is still damn you're the same, um

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 1>you know. With that, it's like, you know, how do

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 1>you how do you how do you keep people's attentions?

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 1>How do you keep people watching? You know? What I

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 1>mean is that your character is it you know, me

0:31:56.640 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 1>and laguers Ky goofing off and and and hosting a

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 1>episode of you know, Power or USA and introducing matches

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 1>or or is it you know thirty second reels and

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>clips on social media now? So you know, the way

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 1>fans interact and what they expect from a performer is

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>different too. You know, they want to have a lot

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 1>of access to you via those social media's and upfront

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 1>interactions and whatnot. So um but it's for a lot

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 1>of things though too. I think you know, even like

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're in a you know, pop culture,

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 1>whether it's music or comics and movies and all of

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>that change. It's a whole other layer a business to consider. Well,

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:43.959
<v Speaker 1>no matter what, experience is the best thing that you

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 1>can have in your arsenal, and you have a massive

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>amount of it with a unique number of people, whether

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 1>it be teaming with Madman Pondos or being an O

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 1>v W or so many things up until what you're

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 1>doing now in the n w A and elsewhere. But

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I do have to ask you because it's like a

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 1>fever dream now to me, these old Andocchi Genome shows,

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 1>And am I crazy? Or did you and Bobby Lashly

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 1>make a visit over to Japan for a Anocchi Genome show?

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Am I hallucinating that? Or did that really occur? Because

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 1>it feels like it's forever ago now, Yeah, it was

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:22.720
<v Speaker 1>probably about it is about ten years ago. I think

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 1>it was about two thousand, twelve thirteen somewhere in there.

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, talking about a misfit band of Guy Jean,

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 1>it was me, Bobby Lashly, Vladimir cause law Uh Andcera.

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, my my pupping is over here going nuts

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 1>like Logursky when there's no food at g Yeah. But yeah,

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>and then you had some other pro kickboxers like Peter

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Arts or Arts. I thine he's a he's a Dutchman,

0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>just lumberjack. Yes, yes, yes, and very Hodgepodge show, but decent,

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 1>decent audience for almost a sellout my first trip to

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:12.839
<v Speaker 1>Japan and very interesting for me and educational, So yeah,

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 1>you got on. It is a little bit of a

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 1>of a hallucination there, like a bad meth trip of

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 1>pro wrestling and m m A. But it happened. Well,

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 1>how are you tapped for something like that, because it

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:25.879
<v Speaker 1>seems to be it's a lot easier to make connections now,

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:28.800
<v Speaker 1>to at least make a connection to get over to Japan.

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how were you even brought up for something

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 1>like this? Uh So a blip on the radar in

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 1>my career was I had a brief stint at the

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 1>original and Oki Dojo in Los Angeles, um like Santa

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Monica area, Los Angeles and what they termed it as

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>when Anochi owned New Japan. Um I was there for

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 1>a few much training and things just going well for

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 1>me personally and wasn't working out for me professionally, but

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I had made some connection obviously with the Anoki family

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and other people um Anti. I first came across Dave

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Marquez from out that way from Championship Wrestling from Hollywood

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:14.880
<v Speaker 1>and his u W n network. Um, but that's all

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:18.840
<v Speaker 1>the connection was made, and there's you know, there's a

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 1>good business and you stay connected with people and networking

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 1>and that just became easier with social media, where you know,

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:26.760
<v Speaker 1>you cook on a button and there's your old buddy

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:31.280
<v Speaker 1>or an old rival or old promoter, booker, trainer or whatever,

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 1>and you guys can stay connected on you know, the

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:36.759
<v Speaker 1>interwebs or what I mean. Even the Grocy can do that.

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean we watched us at point in quick. He's

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 1>better at Internet than I have. He learned stuff, like

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 1>teaches me stuff like that all the time. But yeah,

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 1>so that's kind of how it was. You know, I

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:50.839
<v Speaker 1>still had some contact with the family, particularly Simon, and uh,

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 1>you know you come across my social media and made

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 1>a deal. That is the worst breaking of k fame

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 1>that I've ever heard that King Ball Lagursky is good

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:05.080
<v Speaker 1>on the internet. Well look a look at I tell you.

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I tell other people about Lagurski. Here's the thing. He's

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 1>not dumb. He just has a very he has a

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 1>very smart single track mind. So like you get him

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 1>going on one track, he's an idiot savant. But if

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you do it, you derail that train. It's it's like

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:25.799
<v Speaker 1>a nuclear meltdown. It's like a train wreck with a

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 1>with a wrecking Ball with a train Hey, June eleventh,

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 1>All the Way is ready on pay per view the

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 1>n w A and I'm not sure exactly how much

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>has been announced yet, but what can you tell us

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:41.799
<v Speaker 1>about about your participation at this ship? Well, there's there's

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 1>been I think they just announced my uh my beat

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>down on Rock and Roll this past week, so it

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:53.400
<v Speaker 1>would be myself and wrecking Ball Lagurski versus uh the

0:36:53.520 --> 0:37:00.760
<v Speaker 1>old Kentucky waterfall icon himself, Ricky Morton and his entitled

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 1>son carry. I don't know if you saw that recently,

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:10.279
<v Speaker 1>with Wrecking Ball beating up on Old Old Punky a

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago or last week on on n

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:17.320
<v Speaker 1>w A USA on Saturdays. Um. And then there's a

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:21.239
<v Speaker 1>third variable that's getting be interesting with I think it's

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:28.240
<v Speaker 1>George Costanza's son, a J. Costanza uh and a mystery partner.

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know who this mystery partner is. I

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know why he's in the match. I'm not even

0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna ask Wrecking Ball on that because it might make

0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>him growing blows wheel starts spinning. It like I said,

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 1>the hamster will fall off the wheel and we're done. Well, listen,

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:46.280
<v Speaker 1>hold that thought. We got a head to a commercial

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<v Speaker 1>break here in his radio. We'll be back in a

0:37:48.440 --> 0:38:02.359
<v Speaker 1>moment to finish the plugs. Wrestling Uber Live bagging the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Bright nowbre is here, Wrestling Observer Live mixumber VV also

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<v Speaker 1>Wrestling Observer dot Com. The Boss joining up today The Boss.

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Bradley rest on that that's right, Jun eleventh, always ready

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:18.400
<v Speaker 1>on pay per view, the n w A and the

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<v Speaker 1>National Wrestling Alliance. You and the Rocking Ball, I be

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<v Speaker 1>tearing it up on that show, dropping that ball on

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's heads. So let's get some bloods in here. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you Did you just say that you just want me

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<v Speaker 1>to ta dropping the wrecking ball on their heads? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>holy smokes, Hey tell us about the show. You're on

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<v Speaker 1>social media, whatever's on your mind. So we got a

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<v Speaker 1>big three way tag match. Like I was saying before

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<v Speaker 1>these these ads rudely interrupted. Yes, what I was about

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<v Speaker 1>to say. So you got this guy e Costanza with

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<v Speaker 1>the mystery partner in one corner, and one corner you

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<v Speaker 1>got me, and with Sky another corner, you got nobody.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's only three way, not four, and in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth you got Punky Rock and Roll, Ricky Morton and

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<v Speaker 1>that entitled Millennial Bratt Kidd is carry Morton and it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a three way. We've got a lot of variables.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, there's a it's three if you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know right after two there's three instead of two.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's a mystery man and now there's rumored

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<v Speaker 1>to be the winner is going to get a shot

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<v Speaker 1>at the n w A Tag team titles, which are

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<v Speaker 1>also on the line in Knoxville that same night with

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<v Speaker 1>Law Rebellion versus Doug Williams and Harry Smith or also

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<v Speaker 1>known to some as Davey Boy Smith Jr. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a lot of tag team shuffling going on

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<v Speaker 1>that match or that night. I don't know about you, Alvarez,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think I got the inside track. Wink wink, nudge, nudge.

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<v Speaker 1>You might want to put some money on me and

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<v Speaker 1>Wrecking Ball, because you know what, we're fixers business, and

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<v Speaker 1>we fix any problem. And I see a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>problems in our run sheet. Well we got a problem

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<v Speaker 1>here and that's we're out of time. But I want

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<v Speaker 1>to thank you so much for doing the show today.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody for listening. We'll talk to you next time Wrestling

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