Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.
Speaker 2: I'm your host coleeen Went and today we have very
Speaker 2: special special guests Chico Ben in the building.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, thank you, thank you for having me
Speaker 3: on your wonderful, wonderful podcast.
Speaker 4: This is a brilliant idea. I think this is dope.
Speaker 1: Thank you and thank you for opening up.
Speaker 2: I would like to say the eighty five South home
Speaker 2: to me and being so hospitable. I absolutely love everything
Speaker 2: about the eighty five South camp in totality.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for showing me so much less.
Speaker 3: Oh man, We you know, try to pride ourselves on
Speaker 3: being a standard of you know, hospitality over here, to
Speaker 3: say the least, So I'm glad that you were received
Speaker 3: in that way.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've been gossiping NonStop, but such amazing gossip behind your back.
Speaker 1: Like yo, these guys are incredible. The character, the integrity
Speaker 1: that every day, Oh my god, it's amazing. Good and
Speaker 1: your dish. What are you gonna have us eating today?
Speaker 4: Beef ravioli by chef Boyard.
Speaker 1: Yes, this is a this is a real classic. It's money.
Speaker 2: I don't think we've ever had it on the show, surprisingly,
Speaker 2: which I've had everything you could imagine a hundred times over.
Speaker 2: But I like that you and I are gonna take
Speaker 2: one for teen today, right, We're gonna we're gonna take
Speaker 2: baby baby baby.
Speaker 1: Licks at it.
Speaker 4: Pause.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we we're gonna do what we could do
Speaker 3: to do to make sure that the content is what
Speaker 3: it needs to be for you know, for the podcast.
Speaker 3: We'll say that it's been a very long time since
Speaker 3: I've been able to eat anything remotely close to this,
Speaker 3: but there was a time in my life where this was,
Speaker 3: you know, five course for me.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I want to make sure the jogg your memory.
Speaker 2: So I want to see you make chef for I
Speaker 2: d okay, and uh, I want to take a swing
Speaker 2: a swing at it.
Speaker 4: Going okay, all right, so you just try not.
Speaker 1: To let any guests leave without taking a bite of
Speaker 1: their food.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right? So I mean, I mean, is this on?
Speaker 1: I think I turned the other one on? Maybe they
Speaker 1: both of which is heating sauce.
Speaker 2: By the way, I accidentally did try Chef Bard recently
Speaker 2: and I was like, who was I think it?
Speaker 1: Because I used to love it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so did I. Oh boy, this is you got
Speaker 4: the memories memory. Oh boy.
Speaker 3: See that's the thing. You got to it come out
Speaker 3: and you got to you get that sound. That's what yeah,
Speaker 3: all right, all right, now, see I don't know if
Speaker 3: we got in need let me see what what what
Speaker 3: type of flavorings.
Speaker 4: We got over?
Speaker 1: So we add an extra flavor?
Speaker 3: Oh you got to, man, we got to. This is
Speaker 3: a hood delicacy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Growing up? You know, I was what was called the
Speaker 4: latch key kid.
Speaker 3: So my mother, you know, would get up at three
Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning to go to work since I
Speaker 3: was since I can remember. So I've been kind of
Speaker 3: cooking for myself and this little Italian season and right here,
Speaker 3: give it a little bit of a little bit of
Speaker 3: you know, make it seem like it's corrobbas or something
Speaker 3: of that nature.
Speaker 1: No, did you come from two parent household?
Speaker 4: No? No, No, I did not come from a two
Speaker 4: parent household.
Speaker 3: My father was murdered when I was two years old,
Speaker 3: so it was just my mother, and uh, you know,
Speaker 3: because of that, she had to you know, it's a
Speaker 3: little different back in the day. You know, we're going
Speaker 3: black pepper right here, good in gather. We're going good
Speaker 3: and gathered black pepper. And then uh, no, salt. We
Speaker 3: try to stay away from the salt. As the garlic powder.
Speaker 3: We'll do a little bit of garlic powder on.
Speaker 4: There, just slightly.
Speaker 1: Do you cook at home.
Speaker 3: Now, yes, very much so private No, hell no, okay,
Speaker 3: that is an expense I refuse to know.
Speaker 1: So you're cooking, you're not eating out a lot?
Speaker 3: Well, yes, we do eat out a lot because we
Speaker 3: are out a lot with what we do for a living,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, you know, traveling and you know,
Speaker 3: just being on the road all the time. It kind
Speaker 3: of restricts what it is that you can eat because
Speaker 3: our job don't start till eight pm, so by the
Speaker 3: time we finish working, it's it's really not.
Speaker 4: Much left open. So usually you have.
Speaker 3: To go get something during the day to have after
Speaker 3: when you finish. And you know what I mean, it's
Speaker 3: it's very very much cooking when you go home, not
Speaker 3: when you're on the road. It's very difficult to cook
Speaker 3: when you're on it. You have to kind of set
Speaker 3: yourself up to be able to cook.
Speaker 4: On the road.
Speaker 1: So if you weren't eat and you were at home currently.
Speaker 3: Water, yeah, just to stretch it out a little bit
Speaker 3: so it won't stick to the bottom of the pan.
Speaker 3: Yeah you real, let me see. Uh yeah, right there,
Speaker 3: we're right there.
Speaker 1: I wasn't even that good. I was just heating in
Speaker 1: the microwaves.
Speaker 4: Oh no, yeah, no, we got to do it on
Speaker 4: the stove. That's how you learn.
Speaker 3: You get that mixed up and they get all them
Speaker 3: flavors mixed in in there. You got to separate them too,
Speaker 3: because if you don't separate them, then you'll have one
Speaker 3: that's cooked on the top and then you into that bottom.
Speaker 3: In that bottom with Bucky neked, it ain't got no
Speaker 3: heat on it. So you gotta make sure you go
Speaker 3: in and split them apart because they come in you know,
Speaker 3: they be stuck together, so you gotta split them apart
Speaker 3: right there.
Speaker 4: Uh, there we go.
Speaker 1: This is how I know I know. I know you
Speaker 1: was broke.
Speaker 4: Because I didn't. That's the thing. You knew I was broke.
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I thought this was a delicacy because it really had
Speaker 3: Chef boy I d on the can no listen. We
Speaker 3: had a lot of that.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 3: I can't remember the first the first time I ever
Speaker 3: had Frosty Flakes with Tony on the box.
Speaker 4: I was in college. My Frosty flakes.
Speaker 3: Had a snowman on the box frosty flakes. That's what
Speaker 3: we grew up eating, the frosty flakes with the eye
Speaker 3: with the wire on them.
Speaker 4: All right, So we're gonna let that just do his
Speaker 4: thing right there.
Speaker 3: We're gonna sit this off to the side, and then
Speaker 3: you know it's getting right when it started the bubble
Speaker 3: with the little bubble on it, then you're going you're
Speaker 3: cooking with grease.
Speaker 1: So take me back, take me back to this time.
Speaker 3: Woh Boy Washington, d C. Born and raised in Washington, DC.
Speaker 3: Grew up in the household with all my family members.
Speaker 3: At first, I say, the first eight nine years of
Speaker 3: my life.
Speaker 4: I lived in the.
Speaker 3: Household with my mother, my aunt Mary, who was like
Speaker 3: my grandmother. My grandmother passed before I was born too,
Speaker 3: so she was like the matriarch of the family. Four uncles,
Speaker 3: my uncle Ricky, my uncle Reggie, you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: my uncle Eric Harrold, who was you know, a cousin,
Speaker 3: but he was like an uncle. Sheel was like a
Speaker 3: who was a cousin but was like an aunt. They
Speaker 3: grew up with my mother, my mother of course, cousin
Speaker 3: Derk and it was just so many people in the household.
Speaker 3: So I got to get the influence from all of
Speaker 3: those different people, from you know, good.
Speaker 1: Bad, and in different Were you an only child, No, I.
Speaker 3: Have a little brother. I have a little brother who's
Speaker 3: three years younger than me. But so I grew up
Speaker 3: there and we moved into apartment, our first apartment my
Speaker 3: mother got and this is where I would say my
Speaker 3: culinary journey began. And it began with cam Ravioli because
Speaker 3: it's an easy thing to make, you know, it was
Speaker 3: very easy for my mother to show us how to
Speaker 3: make that. It's just you just put it on the stove,
Speaker 3: heat it up, you know what I mean, season it
Speaker 3: to where you want to season it. Two, it was
Speaker 3: a certain point where I was staying on the little
Speaker 3: stool and cook it. Because she was always at work,
Speaker 3: you know, she would have to get up at three
Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning and catch three busses to get
Speaker 3: to work, you know what I mean, and to go
Speaker 3: be a custodian. So by the time she got home,
Speaker 3: it was very red and she had the energy to
Speaker 3: do anything but go back to sleep so she can
Speaker 3: wake up in a couple more hours to go back
Speaker 3: to work.
Speaker 4: So for me. This was you know, me and my
Speaker 4: little brothers. This was our delicacy.
Speaker 1: There was no stepdad in the house or oh no.
Speaker 4: No, no no.
Speaker 3: There was you know, a couple of niggas that stepped in,
Speaker 3: but they weren't step das as they were just doing
Speaker 3: their thing, you know what I mean. And you know,
Speaker 3: that's pretty much the dynamic of how you know, my
Speaker 3: mother's relationships worked throughout my life. It was never very
Speaker 3: She was a very, very very stern woman to say
Speaker 3: the least. And I've learned from you know, God rest
Speaker 3: her soul. I've learned that it takes a very special
Speaker 3: type of man to deal with a woman who is
Speaker 3: is very self aware and stern and not gonna let
Speaker 3: you just play no games. You couldn't play no games
Speaker 3: with Wanda Bean. You had to be honest. You had
Speaker 3: to be forthcoming and forward. And if once she saw
Speaker 3: that you weren't who you said you were, you wouldn't
Speaker 3: want to be around her anyway. Oh I hit a bubble,
Speaker 3: I hit a bubble, bubble, Wow, you gotta know you're
Speaker 3: moving and around there we go. But I was fortunate
Speaker 3: enough to have male influence. I don't want to make
Speaker 3: it seem like I didn't have any male influence.
Speaker 4: My uncle's and you.
Speaker 3: Know, a lot of the guys I grew up with
Speaker 3: in my neighborhoods. You know, I was very active as
Speaker 3: a young man because my mother, you know, had a
Speaker 3: different sentiment. I say, she raised me and reverse, you know,
Speaker 3: with all the coddling and protection and you know, that's
Speaker 3: my baby. You think that a woman would give a
Speaker 3: young man whose father was a victim of gun violence
Speaker 3: and you know, try to protect me from all the
Speaker 3: things the streets of Washington, DC had to offer. That
Speaker 3: wasn't her sentiment. She was like, you know, get out
Speaker 3: there and do something. You the man of the house.
Speaker 3: So I've always you I was the man of my
Speaker 3: house early. I have responsibility my whole life. So at
Speaker 3: the time when I was young, I didn't recognize how,
Speaker 3: you know, blessed I was to have that responsibility. But
Speaker 3: in hindsight, I do now, because now I realize that
Speaker 3: it as an adult, a lot of the gentlemen who
Speaker 3: I grew up with and I was around, who were
Speaker 3: my peers and you know, older than me, still han't
Speaker 3: learned to, you know, take responsibility in the way that
Speaker 3: I did. When I was nine ten years old. So
Speaker 3: as a man, it is you know, it's really prepared
Speaker 3: me for you know, life in ways where I'm able
Speaker 3: to do things instinctively that most people look at as
Speaker 3: heroic effort, but for me, it's just what I'm you know,
Speaker 3: used to doing.
Speaker 1: Okay, But you were saying that she coddled you later
Speaker 1: on though.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, a grown man.
Speaker 3: As a grown yes, yes, when I became once I
Speaker 3: became a man and got out here and started to
Speaker 3: you know, live my life, and she saw that the
Speaker 3: lessons and things that she taught me were actually being
Speaker 3: applied without her presence. That's when she opened up. Like
Speaker 3: I didn't see my mother. I saw my mother cry.
Speaker 3: I saw a fight before I saw a cry, Just
Speaker 3: to put that in perspective, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But by the time I became a grown man and
Speaker 3: got out here, she would cry about everything. Was scared
Speaker 3: of shit out me, every little thing. But hey, hey,
Speaker 3: what's all this sensitivity you got going? But yeah, so
Speaker 3: I would say that, you know, by the time I
Speaker 3: became a grown man, that open you know, loving, you know,
Speaker 3: that's my baby.
Speaker 4: That's what she gave me, you know, that's what she
Speaker 4: gave me for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think dang, I should take notes. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take notes from me.
Speaker 3: Oh well, thank you so Ravioli cooking or just life?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 2: So, now take me to get closer and closer to
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get to the road to where you're
Speaker 2: at today. So at what point does what's your does
Speaker 2: comedy enter the picture?
Speaker 3: Comedy enters the picture? My after I graduated.
Speaker 2: From college, after college, not even high school. No, No,
Speaker 2: I love how everyone here is like a college graduate.
Speaker 3: Well no, no, not at all. That was definitely not
Speaker 3: my perspective in high school. High school. You know, I
Speaker 3: had a very different vantage point than what I wanted to.
Speaker 4: Do with myself.
Speaker 1: What did you want to do in high school?
Speaker 4: Be in the streets? Oh?
Speaker 2: You wanted to be in the streets, as in like
Speaker 2: a dope man. Yes, yes, that was a goal.
Speaker 3: That was my Yes, without question, that was That's all
Speaker 3: I wanted to do. All I wanted to do was
Speaker 3: be active and be the man in my neighborhood, in
Speaker 3: my section, and be known in that capacity because that's
Speaker 3: what my environment bred and that's what was normalized where
Speaker 3: I come from, you know, and my uncle Reggie God
Speaker 3: rest his soul, was murdered in two thousand and two,
Speaker 3: and I said, my father was killed when I was
Speaker 3: two years old, and I don't remember. I have no
Speaker 3: recollection of my father, But my uncle Reggie was like
Speaker 3: my father. He was probably the closest thing that I
Speaker 3: had to a father figure in the consistency of his
Speaker 3: presence and in the things that he showed me how
Speaker 3: to do as a man. A lot of my characteristics
Speaker 3: and who I am as a man came from watching
Speaker 3: and mimicking and just being around him. So when he
Speaker 3: was killed, it scared me because I knew that my
Speaker 3: goals and aspirations wanted to be in the streets. But
Speaker 3: I thought he was invincible. It's certain people you think
Speaker 3: it couldn't happen to, and I thought he was one
Speaker 3: of those people.
Speaker 4: So when it happened to him, I knew that.
Speaker 3: You know, I've never been as much as I've always
Speaker 3: been good at getting money and being responsible for myself.
Speaker 3: I knew I wasn't a gorilla, you know, and he was,
Speaker 3: and he lost his life in the streets. So I've
Speaker 3: never had a problem with a problem. But I'm also
Speaker 3: not aggressive, you know, just I'm not that person. You're
Speaker 3: not going to do anything to me, But I don't
Speaker 3: want to do anything to you either.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So that's always been my perspective. So when he lost
Speaker 3: his life, that's what put me on a trajectory into where.
Speaker 4: I am now.
Speaker 3: I didn't even want to go to college before then.
Speaker 3: I didn't know nothing about college. They didn't talk to
Speaker 3: us about college in DC public schools. They were just
Speaker 3: trying to get us to graduate before you know, something
Speaker 3: happened to you, or get you out of there before
Speaker 3: they realized you in the twelfth grade and only reading on.
Speaker 4: The fourth grade.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 3: But you know, once I went to college, I went
Speaker 3: to Winster Salem State University in Winston Salem, North Carolina,
Speaker 3: where I still live and reside to this day. I went,
Speaker 3: you know, matriculated through school, and you know, I joined
Speaker 3: the fraternity and did all the things. I was immersed
Speaker 3: in the college experience, and you know, I would host
Speaker 3: all of the step shows and you know, the stroll
Speaker 3: offs and all of the banquets.
Speaker 2: You are hosting them, hosting them. Okay, so you're definitely
Speaker 2: had sparks of outgoing.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I've always been that way.
Speaker 3: Now, that's one thing I will say has always been
Speaker 3: present in my life. I've always been public speaking. I
Speaker 3: did my first public speaking at four years old on
Speaker 3: Frederick Douglass in a competition. I was too young to
Speaker 3: win and one okay, But so I've never I've never
Speaker 3: been afraid to speak in front of people.
Speaker 4: I've never had stage fright.
Speaker 3: I've always been the person whenever they wanted somebody to
Speaker 3: speak at a certain level and communicate at a certain level,
Speaker 3: I was always wanted they would come and get Even
Speaker 3: throughout my entire school and all that, I've always been
Speaker 3: that person. My communication is, you know, my gift from God.
Speaker 3: I know that now, but at that point I didn't,
Speaker 3: but people were able to see that within me. So
Speaker 3: when I graduated, I went home and you know, my mother.
Speaker 3: I had never been to my father's grave site. So
Speaker 3: I went to see my mom and told her I
Speaker 3: was going to see my dad for the first time.
Speaker 3: And I went to the gravesite. And when I went
Speaker 3: to the grave site, they took me to a older
Speaker 3: part of the grave site and you know, pointed to
Speaker 3: the grass and was like he in this area somewhere,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, you know, I hope I
Speaker 3: put these flowers on the right nigga.
Speaker 4: That was my first initial thought.
Speaker 3: But but in that same vein, I was like, man,
Speaker 3: whatever he had done in his life didn't garner him
Speaker 3: enough to have a market to let the world know
Speaker 3: that he existed. Nor did anybody around him have the capacity,
Speaker 3: the or the ability to do so for him either.
Speaker 3: So at that point I was like, Okay, I don't
Speaker 3: know what I'm about to do, but I gotta do something.
Speaker 3: You know, I can't be a patch of grass. I
Speaker 3: gotta be more than that. I have to, you know,
Speaker 3: leave more of a legacy than he was able to
Speaker 3: leave before God took him away from here. So I
Speaker 3: went home and it gave me a sheet of paper
Speaker 3: at the gravesite, and I gave it to my mother,
Speaker 3: and my mother looked at it and immediately started crying,
Speaker 3: I mean balling crying.
Speaker 4: She was like, he didn't down on his day. They
Speaker 4: got the day that he died, wrong on his day.
Speaker 3: And I'm just looking like in mind you, I told
Speaker 3: you I saw my mother fight before I saw the
Speaker 3: crist So this is like spooky to me. I'm kind
Speaker 3: of standing there in all like no world is going on.
Speaker 3: But then at that moment, I also recognizing that in
Speaker 3: that moment that whatever was inside of that man impacted
Speaker 3: this woman, who I know is a soldier, soldier to
Speaker 3: where she's still reacting as though this just happened yesterday.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: So as even though I didn't have the ability to
Speaker 3: be able to physically see this man or not this man,
Speaker 3: I know this woman and I know how this woman
Speaker 3: has displayed my entire life to me how strong she is.
Speaker 3: But the sight of this man's death date being wrong
Speaker 3: took her out of her body and just made her
Speaker 3: lose it. So that means that whatever's inside of me
Speaker 3: is what made her feel the way that she feels
Speaker 3: about this moment right now. So I got something. I
Speaker 3: don't know what it is, but I'm about to start
Speaker 3: figuring it out. And my homeboy, Jerome God bless him,
Speaker 3: Mom was like, man, you should do comedy. You should
Speaker 3: do comedy. I'm like, man, I like comedy. I'm a
Speaker 3: fan of comedy, but I ain't never thought about doing
Speaker 3: no comedy. And he was like, all right, man, we look,
Speaker 3: you need to do comedy, I'm telling you. So it
Speaker 3: was an open mic night at the Greensboro Comedy's On,
Speaker 3: which is my own club every first and second Thursday
Speaker 3: of the month.
Speaker 4: I went on the first Thursday and.
Speaker 3: Watched everybody bomb and I was like, well, I can
Speaker 3: at least do this bad and I went back the
Speaker 3: next week. I did my four minutes on stage. That's
Speaker 3: how much time they gave you at the open mic.
Speaker 3: I did my four minutes. When I got off stage,
Speaker 3: my feet hit the floor and I was like, this
Speaker 3: is it, this is what I'm supposed to be doing.
Speaker 4: And from that moment.
Speaker 1: Time, yes, I did.
Speaker 3: I did great, amazing My first time, this was right
Speaker 3: around the time when Obama was running for president. It
Speaker 3: was always so My first joke that I ever told
Speaker 3: on stage was about what I wanted the inauguration to
Speaker 3: look like should a black man win the presidency. Well,
Speaker 3: it was basically like, I just don't want to have
Speaker 3: a black president and it not be a black experience.
Speaker 3: We already got Black History Month and we don't get
Speaker 3: to do nothing if we got a black president. I
Speaker 3: want a black inauguration. I'm talking about Frankie Beverly before
Speaker 3: I let go to be played instead of the national anthem,
Speaker 3: I want the best fried chicken chefs around the country
Speaker 3: to be I'm talking about fried chicken on the stage
Speaker 3: and making fun of whatever it is, the stereotypes that
Speaker 3: white people thought that we was never going to be
Speaker 3: able to get to this position. I want all of
Speaker 3: those things to be put right in front of their face.
Speaker 3: We in here now, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 3: that was pretty much the basis of the joke. And
Speaker 3: I got on stage and the guy who was the
Speaker 3: leader of the open mic at that time, who was like,
Speaker 3: the big name name is Chris Wilds, who's a mentor
Speaker 3: of mine, pull me into the side. I was like,
Speaker 3: it's your first time. He was like, man, that was
Speaker 3: amazing for your first time. Man, that's great.
Speaker 4: Man. Should you should? You should keep going.
Speaker 3: Then at that point I had already made a decision
Speaker 3: that devil what I was gonna do. But just getting
Speaker 3: that level of confirmation from somebody who was a professional.
Speaker 3: And then one thing I always tell people about comedy,
Speaker 3: You always can tell who's funny from the wait staff.
Speaker 3: If you ever go to a comedy club, don't ask
Speaker 3: the owners. Don't ask the people, Ask the waitresses, the
Speaker 3: people who work at the club, because they are there
Speaker 3: every weekend watching these shows and they get a different
Speaker 3: perspective on what comedy is because they watched so much
Speaker 3: of it. So after Chris told me I was funny,
Speaker 3: Waitress Ghetto, who was my homie, came up to me
Speaker 3: and was like, you funny as fuck. You need to
Speaker 3: come back all the time. And so that was my
Speaker 3: introduction to comedy. So from that moment on, I been
Speaker 3: doing comedy. And then that the next month, that next show,
Speaker 3: I went back like I was Eddie Murphy and bombed,
Speaker 3: and then you know, I got my come up ins
Speaker 3: in that regard. This is going to take some work.
Speaker 3: You know, You're not just gonna be able to get
Speaker 3: up here and wing it. You're gonna have to actually
Speaker 3: put your effort and time into this. And that's the
Speaker 3: reason why I stayed in North Carolina because I knew
Speaker 3: if I went home to d C, I knew too
Speaker 3: many people and too many people knew me. So when
Speaker 3: people know you for something, it's very difficult for you
Speaker 3: to be able to.
Speaker 4: Get out of that box that they know you for.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, because if they know you
Speaker 3: for being a certain way, when I come and I
Speaker 3: know what chasing a dream entails, you know I have
Speaker 3: already had that perspective on what it took to make
Speaker 3: it to do anything, because, like I said, I've always
Speaker 3: had responsibility. So I knew if I went home and
Speaker 3: you know, people that know me are saying, damn, bro,
Speaker 3: you broken, And they say.
Speaker 4: Is who don't know you is different?
Speaker 3: Yeah, when it's somebody who you know is coming from
Speaker 3: a place of maliciousness and they really are concerned, it
Speaker 3: makes you feel a little different. So I stayed in
Speaker 3: North Carolina where I didn't know anybody, and I said,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make it work here. And it's the best
Speaker 3: decision I ever made. I think we might think you
Speaker 3: might be in the game.
Speaker 2: Hold up, so how long did you struggle for? I
Speaker 2: love that you're getting into this. Wait, did the raviolis break?
Speaker 4: That's what you want. You want that meat and the sauce.
Speaker 3: You want certain ones to break open because you want
Speaker 3: that meat and the sauce. So even if you don't
Speaker 3: get a ravioli, that sauce still has the beef in it,
Speaker 3: so it's like, you know, that's why I put the
Speaker 3: water in it so it don't get sticky. But even
Speaker 3: when they break up, you want that flavor to get up.
Speaker 4: In there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we are legit.
Speaker 4: Let me move it over to here. You gonna let
Speaker 4: that just marinate a little bit. But what was your question?
Speaker 1: Make sure you turn off that stove, man?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't want to leave eighty five, not
Speaker 2: the way I found it.
Speaker 4: There we go.
Speaker 1: So how long did you struggle for.
Speaker 4: Man? Struggle? You mean financially?
Speaker 3: Financially financially from two thousand and eight to about two
Speaker 3: thousand and sixteen.
Speaker 1: So eight eight years. And then during that struggle, how
Speaker 1: bad was it on you mindset and emotionally?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: How much questioning did you do?
Speaker 3: I never questioned whether or not I was doing the
Speaker 3: right thing. I always questioned whether or not I was
Speaker 3: doing it the right way. But how bad it got
Speaker 3: for me? Boy, I wouldn't even check my mailbox because
Speaker 3: I knew it wasn't nothing in it. I had so
Speaker 3: much mail in my mailbox they thought I.
Speaker 1: Moved because you thought it was just bills or something ought.
Speaker 2: That's all I want to understand that, Because like, I
Speaker 2: used to hang out with some guys that couldn't afford
Speaker 2: their bills, and I'd be like, yo, you not opening
Speaker 2: it and not dealing with it doesn't make it go away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it makes me not have to look at
Speaker 3: what I'm not having at the moment. You'll get it
Speaker 3: when I get it. When I get it, I get
Speaker 3: back with all of y'all. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: But you know the reality of it was I knew that,
Speaker 3: you know my responsibility the way that I've been taught
Speaker 3: and raised. The reason why I didn't want to look
Speaker 3: at it or didn't want to put myself in that
Speaker 3: position is because I know how to get money. I
Speaker 3: know how to go and do something that's gonna garner
Speaker 3: me some type of financial game. But I don't want
Speaker 3: to look at something that I know I don't have
Speaker 3: and force myself into thinking that this is the only
Speaker 3: way I'm gonna be it, because, like you said, it's
Speaker 3: not gonna go away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 3: Whether I pay it today or in ten years, I'm
Speaker 3: still gonna have to deal with this. So I rather
Speaker 3: continue my journey and find my way and deal with
Speaker 3: it when I can deal with it the right way.
Speaker 3: And that was the best decision because even once I
Speaker 3: got on TV, I got on TV in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 3: so I didn't start making money to where I was
Speaker 3: able to get.
Speaker 2: Ahead of what was your first move on TV? It
Speaker 2: was in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 4: That's when we get on TV and.
Speaker 1: You start two thous eight.
Speaker 4: Okay, So it took me from two thousand and eight
Speaker 4: to twenty.
Speaker 2: Thirteen, and you still wasn't like financially, No, no, damn.
Speaker 3: And that and when I say twenty sixteen, I just
Speaker 3: took the struggle away. I wasn't struggling once twenty sixteen came.
Speaker 3: But I still stayed in my college apartment from twenty
Speaker 3: thirteen to two thousand and seventeen, So I was stacking
Speaker 3: money up because I was still paying the same amount
Speaker 3: of rent that I was paying when I was broke. Smart,
Speaker 3: so I was able to get ahead of the bills
Speaker 3: that I owed in that space. But then once twenty
Speaker 3: seventeen came, I was able to start to get all
Speaker 3: of the debt that I owed diminished.
Speaker 1: Did your mind play any tricks on you?
Speaker 2: Because at this point you getting what I would say
Speaker 2: is like the accolades, but maybe the financials aren't matching it.
Speaker 2: Did your mind mess with you a little bit on
Speaker 2: that or your ego? No?
Speaker 3: No, that's that's where I'm blessed because in those times
Speaker 3: where I was talking about growing up and having those responsibilities,
Speaker 3: those are the times where my ego messed with me
Speaker 3: when I was missing the bike rides and missing the
Speaker 3: football games because I had to walk to the safeway
Speaker 3: and get the groceries for the house.
Speaker 4: And so I learned how to deal with that very
Speaker 4: early in life.
Speaker 3: So by the time I got to a grown man
Speaker 3: and I was following those things, then I don't care
Speaker 3: what anybody thinks about me.
Speaker 4: That's you know, I'm.
Speaker 3: Very, very very selective with whose opinions I let matter
Speaker 3: in my life. So if you're not one of those people,
Speaker 3: you can think whatever you want to think about me.
Speaker 4: That's your right.
Speaker 3: You have the right to your opinion, just like I
Speaker 3: have the right not to give a fuck about it.
Speaker 4: So we even so, by.
Speaker 3: The time I got to chasing this dream, those things
Speaker 3: didn't bother me at all.
Speaker 4: What bothered me was feeling like.
Speaker 3: If I would have made a different move here, I
Speaker 3: might have not had to deal with this at this moment.
Speaker 4: But you know, that was just the most difficult process.
Speaker 3: Outside of that, I didn't have any problems with, you know,
Speaker 3: perspective of others.
Speaker 1: And during this your mom's still present. Yes, okay, for sure.
Speaker 2: So can you just take me to how you ended
Speaker 2: up getting on walling out?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a very unique story too, young lady who
Speaker 3: I'm sure you might be familiar with Dolly Bishops.
Speaker 1: I love Dolly. Yeah, that's that is that is my
Speaker 1: baby and my baby.
Speaker 4: We went to school together.
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we went to Winston Seld State together. So at
Speaker 3: this time and we came up together, like I.
Speaker 1: Did not know that. I know, you guys are cool.
Speaker 1: She mentioned.
Speaker 4: Dolly is like there's nothing that she couldn't ask me for.
Speaker 3: There's nothing I wouldn't do for to this day, like
Speaker 3: if she was to call me and ask me for anything,
Speaker 3: you know, there's no situation she can be and why
Speaker 3: I wouldn't stand by her side.
Speaker 1: I feel about her.
Speaker 3: But she was working with Nick Cannon at the time
Speaker 3: as his assistant both eaton while I broke at that time.
Speaker 4: For you know, yeah, she was you know.
Speaker 1: Nine ten.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Nick was having a show called The Fresh
Speaker 3: Faces of Comedy in New York. So Dolly, being an
Speaker 3: advocate for you know us knowing us doing comedy in
Speaker 3: North Carolina, said that she wanted us to come up
Speaker 3: to do one of the shows. Myself and a gentleman
Speaker 3: named Beatott, who was a person that I started with
Speaker 3: in North Carolina w also as a graduate of Wants
Speaker 3: to sell them State University. And that went up the
Speaker 3: first week, and I went up the second week to
Speaker 3: do it. And when I went up the second week,
Speaker 3: when I walked into the comedy club, the owner of
Speaker 3: the club was like, all right, man, we don't know
Speaker 3: who you are, so you can't say the N words.
Speaker 3: You can't talk about this, you can't talk about that.
Speaker 3: You're gonna see if you're funny now at this point,
Speaker 3: that's what I planned on talking to. So I went outside.
Speaker 3: And I don't really write jokes. That's not my process.
Speaker 3: I write down the idea, but my creative processes I
Speaker 3: walk around and talk to myself. That's how I get it,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: So do you still record all your sets?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: No, have you ever?
Speaker 3: Sometimes? But I have a very very keen memory. That's
Speaker 3: one of my gifts. I'm able to remember things, especially
Speaker 3: things that come out of my mind.
Speaker 4: Once I get it.
Speaker 3: Out and I hear it, it's there, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: able to retain it. So I was outside making up
Speaker 3: my set. And as I was out there talking to
Speaker 3: myself walking around in the circle, Nick came up and
Speaker 3: I'm sure now I know he just thought I was
Speaker 3: just some crazy nigga outside talking to himself in New York.
Speaker 3: But I went on stage and did my ten minutes
Speaker 3: and killed because my set was.
Speaker 4: About what just happened.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh brilliant, yeah, brilliant.
Speaker 4: It was literally about what just happened.
Speaker 3: So and it was about my day that I had
Speaker 3: that day leading up until me being on stage. And
Speaker 3: when I got off stage, Nick was like, man, hey.
Speaker 4: Bro let me.
Speaker 3: I'll let you real quick. And he was like, man,
Speaker 3: was you just outside making all that up? Because I
Speaker 3: said something about him walking in seeing me talking to
Speaker 3: myself on stage, He said, was you just making that
Speaker 3: up outside? I'm like yeah, he said, Man, I'm around
Speaker 3: some of the best in the game. They can't do
Speaker 3: what you just did. Keep working so fast forward the
Speaker 3: next day, Dall invites me out to six Flags with them,
Speaker 3: and at this point, I'm just a fly on the wall.
Speaker 3: On the wall, I mean, I'm nobody at this point
Speaker 3: in regards to you know where I sit now. And
Speaker 3: you know, I was out hanging with Dolly with Nick
Speaker 3: and everything, and we went up to ride a roller
Speaker 3: coaster and this is as close as I'd ever been.
Speaker 4: To fame, you know that type.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm watching Nick walk up to ride the
Speaker 3: roller coaster and people are going crazy, ah, trying to
Speaker 3: take pictures, and the lady on the microphone that you
Speaker 3: use to say take off, and she's like, don't hang
Speaker 3: over the rails, and it's just trying to calm people down.
Speaker 3: And I'm looking like, Okay, if I make an impact
Speaker 3: in this game the way I feel like I'm going
Speaker 3: to and want to, this is what my life life
Speaker 3: will be.
Speaker 4: Can you deal with this? Can you deal with.
Speaker 3: Not being able to ride a roller coaster without people
Speaker 3: wanting to make noise and running up on you all
Speaker 3: the time?
Speaker 4: And I said, and I looked and I thought about it,
Speaker 4: and I was like, yeah, I can do it. I
Speaker 4: can do it. I can do it.
Speaker 2: Well, Nick has it easier compared to because I remember
Speaker 2: I did an event with Nick and Mariah once and
Speaker 2: never was phased by some of the stuff that Nick
Speaker 2: went through. I feel like he is truly a trooper
Speaker 2: when it comes to that stuff. But seeing what Mariah
Speaker 2: went through. I said that that I hate to say it,
Speaker 2: but that life sucks because Mariah was like almost like
Speaker 2: an animal like people.
Speaker 1: Just she needed so much protection.
Speaker 2: And I was like, yo, I actually feel bad, Like
Speaker 2: can you imagine never going to a grocery store.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a different that's another level, you know.
Speaker 1: But Nick's level is cool.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, you know, it depends on the environment.
Speaker 3: You know, there are certain people who no matter what
Speaker 3: environment they go to, is going to be that. There's
Speaker 3: some people who you go to certain environments where it
Speaker 3: won't be that, but if you go to certain places,
Speaker 3: it's going to be pandemonium. So you know, that was
Speaker 3: my introduction to you know, Nick Cannon. Fast forward two
Speaker 3: years later, almost I see a tweet that he's bringing
Speaker 3: back wilding Out. So I immediately called doll like, dollars
Speaker 3: is real. She's like, yes, it's real. He has already
Speaker 3: been talking about. So I'm like, man, whatever I got
Speaker 3: to do, Man, let me know, because I had just
Speaker 3: found out that I was getting laid off from my job. Now,
Speaker 3: my job that I was working at the time, I
Speaker 3: was a qualified professional. I worked with people with substance
Speaker 3: abuse issues, autism.
Speaker 4: All of the difference.
Speaker 1: I didn't know job.
Speaker 4: Yeah when I before I became comedian full time.
Speaker 1: Yes, And what was your college degree in?
Speaker 3: It was in communications radio television with a minor in sociology.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So the sociology is what I was using
Speaker 3: to pay the bills up until I was able to
Speaker 3: make comedy and entertainment my main source of income. But
Speaker 3: I found out I was getting laid off. So Nick
Speaker 3: ended up doing an audition in North Carolina because he
Speaker 3: had a radio show that was naturally syndicated at the time,
Speaker 3: so it was one of his affiliates in North Carolina.
Speaker 3: So he just did a thing where he did an audition.
Speaker 3: So me and my guy beat out went up and
Speaker 3: did the audition, and he tells this story, which is interesting.
Speaker 4: I didn't even get this perspective. He said.
Speaker 3: When he went in, you know, it was cool and
Speaker 3: wasn't nobody really laughing. But from his vantage point, he said,
Speaker 3: when I walked into the room, he said, I wasn't
Speaker 3: in there for ten fifteen seconds before the room erupted
Speaker 3: and laughter.
Speaker 4: So that was my first audition.
Speaker 3: And then Nick was like, you know, man, this was
Speaker 3: just something I was doing, just to do, like as
Speaker 3: a mock thing, but you just you got to come
Speaker 3: to the real audition. So he invited me up to
Speaker 3: New York to come to the real audition. Now at
Speaker 3: this point, I'm like, how nay, hell, am I gonna
Speaker 3: get to New York because I'm broke, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. So I took some clothes. I've always been very.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say yours. We got to point it
Speaker 2: out at the end. But your accessories, your stall and everything.
Speaker 4: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: And that's always been something that I've taken prior and
Speaker 3: that's that's my only vice. That's always been my vice
Speaker 3: because I started buying my own clothes when I was
Speaker 3: thirteen years old and I've been doing it ever since.
Speaker 3: So it's embedded in me. So I always have nice
Speaker 3: clothing and jewelry. Oh yeah, it was not The jewelry
Speaker 3: wasn't always nice, but the clothing was always decent. But uh,
Speaker 3: I took some clothes to play those closet and traded
Speaker 3: in the clothes to get the plane ticket to go.
Speaker 4: To New York.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 3: And when I got to New York, I did the
Speaker 3: second audition, and I made a joke about the fact
Speaker 3: that I had to do good enough to come and
Speaker 3: have to do good again, and then I you know,
Speaker 3: killed the audition then. And then at the end it
Speaker 3: was like, hey, remember that joke you made at the
Speaker 3: beginning of your audition about having to come do good again? Yeah,
Speaker 3: we were gonna need you to fly back up to
Speaker 3: New York next week.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh God, did you just well at
Speaker 2: that point, wasn't Dolly staying in New York?
Speaker 1: Couldn't you have?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I could I stay. I did stay
Speaker 4: with you?
Speaker 1: Oh did you pull that movie man to New York?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: So I remember going to my rental office and the
Speaker 3: lady at the rental office, who you know, is a
Speaker 3: lovely lady, still friends to this day, and she tells
Speaker 3: me how proud she is of me all the time
Speaker 3: and always jokes about this.
Speaker 4: You know. She the reason I made it.
Speaker 3: But I went to her and told her, like, I
Speaker 3: have an opportunity that can change my life, and I'm
Speaker 3: gonna have to be laid on my rent to make
Speaker 3: this opportunity happen. But I promise you, just you know,
Speaker 3: give me, give me a couple more days, please, if
Speaker 3: I can just get it to you. You know, I'll
Speaker 3: be forever in your gratitude. She was like, baby, whatever
Speaker 3: you got going on, I can see in your eyes,
Speaker 3: go go do whatever you need to do.
Speaker 4: I'll make it work. And I went back up to
Speaker 4: New York.
Speaker 3: We did the group audition, and then after the group audition,
Speaker 3: I had, you know, waited a couple of weeks audition
Speaker 3: where they had all of the people that are considering
Speaker 3: for the show at the time. And I did the
Speaker 3: group audition, and when I came back home, probably about
Speaker 3: a week and a half. Two weeks later, I got
Speaker 3: a call from now Evans, who's one of the producers
Speaker 3: on the show, and he said, yeah, man, unfortunately we're
Speaker 3: not going to be able to bring you in.
Speaker 4: The workshop for the show. I was like, damn. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: but welcome to the cast. A while orn out.
Speaker 3: You made it, so some people have to come in
Speaker 3: and work. He was like, you made the cast and
Speaker 3: that was a tough one.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I got.
Speaker 3: Officially laid off January eleven, if I believe it was,
Speaker 3: which was a Friday. That Monday, I flew out to
Speaker 3: shoot Wilder Out. I haven't worked since then.
Speaker 2: Wow, what an incredible incredible, incredible story. Do you and
Speaker 2: Dall ever look back and joke about.
Speaker 4: All the time?
Speaker 3: All the time, man, all the time, like because we
Speaker 3: came up together, Like we really literally came up together,
Speaker 3: like our whole experience, our whole growth process. Like to
Speaker 3: say I'm proud of her is an understatement, you know,
Speaker 3: because you know, we were having these conversations about what
Speaker 3: we were going to do and going through those you know,
Speaker 3: we were each other's therapists for years when it came
Speaker 3: to trying to go through all of the the ups
Speaker 3: and downs of entertainment, you know, from both sides of
Speaker 3: the game, from her being on the other side of
Speaker 3: the camera and me being on this side of the camera.
Speaker 3: So you know, just seeing the growth that we both
Speaker 3: have been able to experience, coming from where we come
Speaker 3: from and really coming from starting together in the process
Speaker 3: of making the name for ourselves.
Speaker 4: Man, it's a blessing, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't even really put in the words
Speaker 3: how proud I am of her. And I know from
Speaker 3: all of the things that she's done and all of
Speaker 3: the love and you know, just opportunities that she's garnered
Speaker 3: me just from believing the meat the way that she
Speaker 3: has throughout the years. There's no doubt in my mind
Speaker 3: that she's my biggest fan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it says a lot too.
Speaker 2: Whenever I hear someone say they're friends with Dolly, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 2: you must have some level of integrity, some great level
Speaker 2: of integrity. Yeah at all, because I feel like with
Speaker 2: Doll there's just so much integrity.
Speaker 4: And most people don't know who she really is. I
Speaker 4: know her for real, like for real, I feel like
Speaker 4: I know Doug most.
Speaker 1: I know her.
Speaker 4: She's authentic.
Speaker 3: She is a very authentic, but there's a side of
Speaker 3: her that most people would be shocked if they saw.
Speaker 4: I just leave it at down.
Speaker 2: I believe that I recently had a conversation with her
Speaker 2: that actually did shock me, and I kind of felt
Speaker 2: bad afterwards, like you know, like that was shocked, Like
Speaker 2: I saw a more vulnerable side of her than she
Speaker 2: She shows so much strength that I was actually taken back,
Speaker 2: and I was like, damn, that's why we got to
Speaker 2: be nice to the people that think we think are
Speaker 2: so strong, like even like your mom, you.
Speaker 3: Know, like if you if you knew Dog's background, man,
Speaker 3: And that's the thing. I know her whole family like everybody,
Speaker 3: like you.
Speaker 1: Know, oh you know them when I show up.
Speaker 4: I show up. You know, I'm family, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? Like this is it?
Speaker 3: It's different with us, like that's my partner, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, like point blank period that there's nothing
Speaker 3: that I wouldn't share with There's nothing we wouldn't share
Speaker 3: with each other. We never lied to each other about anything,
Speaker 3: no matter what it is. So you know when I
Speaker 3: go and you know, show up to see where she
Speaker 3: comes from and vice versa, Like people would never know
Speaker 3: our backgrounds when you meet us and have conversations with us,
Speaker 3: you would never know that we come from the type
Speaker 3: of environments that we come from.
Speaker 4: But it'll really.
Speaker 3: Shock you, like people, people, people would be ten times
Speaker 3: more enaminate shocked with her as a person if they
Speaker 3: knew where she came from.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm a little familiar, but not all the way.
Speaker 2: But I know she came from a lot. But we're
Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and try to Yeah, we're gonna have
Speaker 2: to test your seasoning skills.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put one in here, and I'm gonna put
Speaker 3: one in here because I don't think they got any
Speaker 3: type of antaskit or anything for us here what you
Speaker 3: say and acids?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try and avoid as much of the beef
Speaker 2: because I am allergic.
Speaker 4: I mean too.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm gonna get the tip.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not gonna get the tip or nothing, but
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get a little bit of this noodle here and.
Speaker 1: I got the noodle sire shit h.
Speaker 4: Y y that's the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, still even with the season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, still still chef id It's crazy.
Speaker 2: I used to like when I would go to the
Speaker 2: grocery store with my parents, I used to like pray.
Speaker 2: I would never really ask because you know, my parents
Speaker 2: would tell you can ask, but they always see the answer. No,
Speaker 2: it just gets annoying after a while. But I used
Speaker 2: to always pray. They would put like shepherd d in
Speaker 2: the basket. I used to think this was like filet.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah it was back in the day.
Speaker 1: But now but now I'm like, yo, what was I think?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that used to leave a film in your mouth.
Speaker 2: What are some things that you learned about the industry
Speaker 2: after coming that were tough lessons?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 3: Tough lessons. Uh, integrity is far and few between. But
Speaker 3: people pretending to happen.
Speaker 4: Integrity is everywhere you go. So when you meet somebody who.
Speaker 3: Is able to where everybody wears masks, you know just
Speaker 3: in general everybody does in some way, shape or form.
Speaker 4: But it's very difficult.
Speaker 3: To deal with the things that come with this industry
Speaker 3: when people got on two and three and four masks
Speaker 3: and you think that you know somebody somebody then they
Speaker 3: take a mask off and you realize they're not who
Speaker 3: they are, and they'd be like, well, I was just
Speaker 3: wearing that one just to be in this environment, and
Speaker 3: you see them take another one off, and its integrity
Speaker 3: is very, very fond few between real integrity.
Speaker 4: Another hard lesson that I've learned is.
Speaker 3: Every opportunity doesn't come with a check attached to it.
Speaker 3: Some opportunity is just opportunity, and you have to be
Speaker 3: able to accept opportunity without being given any compensation for
Speaker 3: it to really gain what is really there for you
Speaker 3: to be compensated for it in the long run. So
Speaker 3: there have been and it's not after coming into the industry,
Speaker 3: but prior to coming to the industry, there were a
Speaker 3: lot of opportunities that I turned down because I needed
Speaker 3: money so bad and there was no money there that
Speaker 3: would have taught me certain lessons that I learned after
Speaker 3: getting money that would have saved me some money.
Speaker 4: If that makes sense.
Speaker 1: No, it makes sense. It makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2: What I've learned even just being here the last couple
Speaker 2: of weeks, is that everyone that has been on this
Speaker 2: set like they are every corner, they're looking for a
Speaker 2: window of opportunity and they are maximizing on it. And
Speaker 2: a lot of the opportunities I've heard sitting here this
Speaker 2: last week, a lot of them were not tied to
Speaker 2: a check. Yeah, but it definitely was a pivotal moment
Speaker 2: that led to that check wasn't right around the corner either.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm always curious about, like what the mindset
Speaker 2: is when you're going through that. I know me personally,
Speaker 2: I'm always back my FOD, like, am I doing the
Speaker 2: right thing? Is this is gonna be my last run?
Speaker 2: Is this almost up? What's my next game plan? What's
Speaker 2: my next move? But you know, it's great when you
Speaker 2: love what you do. I love hearing people's stories like
Speaker 2: I love this stuff, Like I literally like I could
Speaker 2: do this all day for the rest of my life.
Speaker 4: What made you start to do this? Why this of all.
Speaker 1: Things, because I I love me and broke guye, but
Speaker 1: a lot of my friends a lot.
Speaker 2: Of time out now I love me and broke and
Speaker 2: I'm just saying past me, past sends me.
Speaker 1: You say that, let me say it right now.
Speaker 4: I'm past tense, past tense.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you this a nigga eating some ravioli right
Speaker 3: now that just drop the bowl like nigga.
Speaker 4: I knew she was.
Speaker 2: Mine, so I used to love me a broke guye
Speaker 2: and I started. But I also noticed that I had
Speaker 2: these like two different worlds I was in. I was
Speaker 2: constantly in the world of by accident or whatever, like
Speaker 2: I had Nick Cannon as a business partner for ten
Speaker 2: plus years, or always be in these environments where somebody
Speaker 2: in my life was extreme levels of success and being
Speaker 2: around them their thought process more aligned with mine. But
Speaker 2: growing up where I'm from, I'm more comfortable over here
Speaker 2: in Brokeland. And one of my homies used to when
Speaker 2: I went through a breakup, because you know, some guys
Speaker 2: are more insecure than others. They'd be like, man, you
Speaker 2: can't hang out with this rich guy and I'm over
Speaker 2: here and we don't like you doing that. So journal
Speaker 2: one of my breakups, I was like, you know what,
Speaker 2: fuck that, I'm gonna hang out with whoever. Fuck I
Speaker 2: want my real friends, which were successful people. But you know,
Speaker 2: I was constantly in between both worlds. So I started
Speaker 2: spending more time with my successful friends and they would
Speaker 2: tell me these amazing stories on like who they were
Speaker 2: to get to where they're at. And at the time,
Speaker 2: I was going through a breakup and one of my homies,
Speaker 2: day storm Power, shout out to him. He always told
Speaker 2: these stories about like how he's an ascory, he went
Speaker 2: to jail, he did this, he did that, he did
Speaker 2: this intern da da da, and then like someone else
Speaker 2: that was successful, chiming, and they tell their story and
Speaker 2: I'd be like, man, these stories are so fascinating. I
Speaker 2: could listen to them forever. And I love mentorship. And
Speaker 2: so the stars aligned and I was thinking about the
Speaker 2: process and the pandemic hit true story. Dolly plays a
Speaker 2: ironically weird role in my story. But Dolly and I,
Speaker 2: you know, we work with Nick together, and we both
Speaker 2: checked out. I'll say a couple of years within, you know,
Speaker 2: going growing up in the industry and seeing men go broke,
Speaker 2: seeing men had their kids sleep on floors, living closets.
Speaker 2: You exposed to so much craziness in LA and being
Speaker 2: in the industry, you'd be like, man, is this going
Speaker 2: to be my life? Especially as a young person, you
Speaker 2: be like, man, this dude's broken. He's ten years older me.
Speaker 2: He got his wife and his kids sleeping in the
Speaker 2: car and he still was he doing it for the groupies,
Speaker 2: you know. So I was trying to get traumatized by
Speaker 2: like some of the brokeness I saw, and I was like, man,
Speaker 2: I was telling Nick, like, Nick, I should make it
Speaker 2: when I'm twenty four, I should be a billionaire, and
Speaker 2: He's like, don't worry about that. Like a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff is fake. But anyways, hanging out with my friends,
Speaker 2: I started to realize like different mindsets and now I'm
Speaker 2: at the point where I'm like, you know what, maybe
Speaker 2: I just belong here and this is who I'm comfortable with.
Speaker 2: Like I'm comfortable with my broke friends, but now I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm also comfortable with my rich friends because they're the
Speaker 2: mindset currently is more aligned than these over here. But anyways,
Speaker 2: long story short, the pandemic happens my current business tanks.
Speaker 2: It was a corporate events company, and uh, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 2: I want to do this, So I pitched my friends.
Speaker 2: Of course, all the celebrity friends like you gotta do it.
Speaker 1: You won't have a choice.
Speaker 2: They're like, girl, you ain't never done nothing in front
Speaker 2: of the camera, and you don't have no production values whatever.
Speaker 2: And I was out the game for ten years. I
Speaker 2: was like, Dolly, you have more celebrity relationships than me
Speaker 2: at this point, so you got to be my partner.
Speaker 2: You don't have a choice. You're gonna be my partner
Speaker 2: because I need your roller decks whatever. And fast forward
Speaker 2: she becomes the president of Black Effect. Fast forward, they
Speaker 2: need a cooking show. Fast forward my baby that I
Speaker 2: had been working on during the pandemic. She calls me.
Speaker 2: She's like, you're gonna murder me and I'm like why.
Speaker 2: She's like, I had this call with Icmiheart and everybody,
Speaker 2: and they need a cooking show. So I pissed your
Speaker 2: show and I was like, okay, why would I kill you?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: And she's like, Charlottage wants it like now, and I
Speaker 2: was like, why would I kill you? Like girl, we
Speaker 2: broke the table. Sitting here in my garage, my neighbors
Speaker 2: are driving by, like what are you doing this time?
Speaker 2: You know? And so I was like, I really didn't
Speaker 2: have a functioning plan outside of building this concept. But
Speaker 2: luckily I was already working on it. So when sear
Speaker 2: I wanted to show, all I had to do was pressent.
Speaker 2: Everything was pretty much done at that point.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you how I did it.
Speaker 3: I just thought of you just said you love your
Speaker 3: broke man and passed. You need to get some of
Speaker 3: them niggas to come on here and make some of
Speaker 3: the meals that had you sleeping in the house with them.
Speaker 4: They we need to know.
Speaker 1: What we never gone back to.
Speaker 3: You don't have to go back, but I'm I mean,
Speaker 3: I know what really kept you over there, because broke
Speaker 3: niggas fuck different.
Speaker 4: They they broke niggas are going. Boy, that the good.
Speaker 1: The motherfucker.
Speaker 3: After I finished getting myself in this least right here,
Speaker 3: right on.
Speaker 1: To this least, they have sex for a different reason.
Speaker 4: You god damn right, boy, You.
Speaker 3: Legs and I get tired the way of broke nigga.
Speaker 3: Legs don't get tired when he needs somewhere to sleep
Speaker 3: at night, but that nigga will fuck his way out
Speaker 3: of a jam gun, I'm telling.
Speaker 1: You my homies.
Speaker 2: My homies used to clown me all the time to
Speaker 2: be like, I don't get it.
Speaker 1: But then I'll tell you this.
Speaker 2: A lot of my successful homies would be like, oh,
Speaker 2: never date a girl like you.
Speaker 3: No, Well whatever, I used to be that nigga, and
Speaker 3: I know I can fuck my way out of a
Speaker 3: jam gun if I mean, I'm gonna have somewhere to stay.
Speaker 4: Thank God he didn't put me in that position.
Speaker 3: But should I have been the young nigga that I
Speaker 3: was at a certain point trying to make this happen?
Speaker 4: Whoa boy?
Speaker 3: I'd have been in love in three states wherever I
Speaker 3: was getting booked at.
Speaker 4: My wife is there?
Speaker 1: Your whole area, man, is what it is.
Speaker 3: But you know, luckily, you know, God didn't see that
Speaker 3: as my trajectory. And the thing that I say now
Speaker 3: to anybody that may be watching that may be broke,
Speaker 3: coming from somebody who was and came through that, the
Speaker 3: thing that keeps me humble, if you will. I hate
Speaker 3: that word because it's so overused now, but the thing
Speaker 3: that makes me recognize what blessings are and how you
Speaker 3: know progression work? The word to me The life that
Speaker 3: we live is all about perception. How you perceive things.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm looking at you now, You'll never see
Speaker 3: what I see when I look at you. I'll never
Speaker 3: see what you see when you look at me. We
Speaker 3: only have two eyes that we get in this lifetime.
Speaker 3: So how you see things will shape your life. And
Speaker 3: for me, what keeps me in pocket is knowing that
Speaker 3: today the problems that I have, the issues that I
Speaker 3: have at this point in my life life would have
Speaker 3: been the solution to every one of my problems now,
Speaker 3: would have solved every problem I had when I wasn't
Speaker 3: checking my mailbox. The things that I might oh, man,
Speaker 3: I goes for me.
Speaker 4: I have to. I have to.
Speaker 3: The things that are problems are issues that may aggravate
Speaker 3: me in my life now. For example, or I just
Speaker 3: had to pay six thousand dollars for flights for my
Speaker 3: team ten years ago, six thousand dollars. I might have
Speaker 3: did something to you for six thousand dollars ten thousand,
Speaker 3: ten years ago. You know what I mean, I might
Speaker 3: have I might have did something to you for six g's.
Speaker 4: So it puts it in perspective.
Speaker 3: The things that God puts into your life is just
Speaker 3: a moment if you can work through it. Because, like
Speaker 3: I said, me having to worry about the things that
Speaker 3: I'm having to worry about now, I have to recognize
Speaker 3: that I'm blessed to be able to deal with things.
Speaker 3: Because money isn't anything but a cushion. It doesn't stop problems.
Speaker 3: Instead of when you got money, now when you fall down,
Speaker 3: you don't fall down and break your leg and strap
Speaker 3: your knee and your face scratched up. Now you just boom,
Speaker 3: you bounce back up. But that don't stop you from falling.
Speaker 3: They don't stop you from having to go through the
Speaker 3: problems in life. But it's all perspective, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. If your perspective, if you still in the
Speaker 3: perspective that you were in, no matter how much money
Speaker 3: you got, you'll always be broke. But if you have
Speaker 3: a grandiose perspective, no matter how much money you don't have,
Speaker 3: you're rich.
Speaker 4: It's just you ain't got the money yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that.
Speaker 2: I've been learning recently too, and I've been saying this
Speaker 2: to myself a lot more. Is life doesn't happen to you,
Speaker 2: it happens for you. So like even with negatives, I'll
Speaker 2: be like yo. But now I live by the Serenity prayer,
Speaker 2: which I don't memorize any prayers, but that's the only
Speaker 2: prayer I say one hundred times a day.
Speaker 4: So what is that?
Speaker 2: It's God gramm me the serenity to accept the things
Speaker 2: I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can,
Speaker 2: and the wisdom to recognize the difference. I say that,
Speaker 2: I promise, I promise you. It'll be two in the
Speaker 2: morning I wake up. I promise you. I'm saying that prayer.
Speaker 2: It'll be three in the morning. It could be walking
Speaker 2: the dog, it could be talking. It doesn't matter if
Speaker 2: I'm facing of a challenge or not. I'm having a
Speaker 2: good time. That's the only prayer I say to myself
Speaker 2: at least hundred times.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm working on a book right now called The bright
Speaker 3: Side of Bullshit, and it's basically that perspective, you know,
Speaker 3: always being able to find a silver lining no matter
Speaker 3: what the situation is. You know, my mother passed away
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one from COVID. I lost my mom,
Speaker 3: which was the most devastating hit that I could have
Speaker 3: took in life. At that point, you know, I thought
Speaker 3: that I was immune to death because I had dealt
Speaker 3: with so much of it, but nothing prepared me for
Speaker 3: my mother. But in finding the bright side of bullshit,
Speaker 3: I realized that although it was tough for me to
Speaker 3: have to rub her back while she passed away and
Speaker 3: watch her leave here, what it did to me isn't
Speaker 3: anywhere in comparison to what it would have did to
Speaker 3: her had she had to do it for me. And
Speaker 3: there was a time in my life when that could
Speaker 3: have really been a realistic possibility for my mother from
Speaker 3: the way I was living and the things that I
Speaker 3: was into. So as tough as it is for me
Speaker 3: to have to say goodbye to my mother, that's the
Speaker 3: way the circle of life goes, and her dream came
Speaker 3: true because she left here before children did and where
Speaker 3: it's supposed to go. So being able to find the
Speaker 3: bright side of bullshit is something that you know, I'm
Speaker 3: very stoic in my mentality and a lot of things,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, you know, I'm more faty. As
Speaker 3: one of my favorite sayings, it's just love your fate,
Speaker 3: because you know, I truly believe that God is real.
Speaker 3: I believe in the High Power. I'm not religious at all,
Speaker 3: but I'm very spiritual, and I believe that whatever your
Speaker 3: journey is has already been planned out for you. You just
Speaker 3: got to walk it. So there's nothing that you can
Speaker 3: do to change it. The only thing that you can
Speaker 3: do is have a perspective that is strong enough for
Speaker 3: you to understand that you can't change it and embrace
Speaker 3: whatever comes with it. And because one day it's going
Speaker 3: to be your last day on this planet with everybody.
Speaker 4: That you love.
Speaker 3: So if that's the case, what do you want to
Speaker 3: be remembered by? Do you want to be remembered by
Speaker 3: all the things that you complained about, all the things
Speaker 3: you help people not complain about.
Speaker 1: Damn you crying?
Speaker 4: Did I make a cry?
Speaker 1: Look at Joe?
Speaker 4: Come have some to make you smile?
Speaker 3: You got seasoning on it now, I mean it got
Speaker 3: season on it, But no, you know this is this
Speaker 3: is you know. I have to have these types of
Speaker 3: perspectives because you know, people look at your life and
Speaker 3: then they have this vantaged point that everything is grandiose
Speaker 3: once you get some money. Now, I don't want to
Speaker 3: make it seem like getting some money is a bad thing,
Speaker 3: because it's a blessing.
Speaker 4: We all know, all of us. You know, I'm looking
Speaker 4: over at Joe.
Speaker 3: We don't all came in like who we need a
Speaker 3: little five hundred, you know what I mean? But you know,
Speaker 3: so it's a blessing to not have to have those problems.
Speaker 3: But there's no such thing as not having problems, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Problems are going to come, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like your problems are your problems.
Speaker 3: But when your problems turn into issues, that's when you
Speaker 3: got a problem. And I mean like you can stop
Speaker 3: yourself from getting to the extreme.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. Like I.
Speaker 3: Watch a lot of affirmations on the daily and one
Speaker 3: of the things that to do named doctor Joe Esponanza
Speaker 3: that I listen to a lot, and he says, how
Speaker 3: many possibilities.
Speaker 4: Are in the unknown? Are they in the unknown? How many?
Speaker 4: It's infinite?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So why do we immediately go to the most
Speaker 3: fucked up one and let that drive us?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: You have the ability to control your mind. Like that's
Speaker 3: something that I truly believe in. Like, the most consistent
Speaker 3: thing that will happen to you in your life is
Speaker 3: your brain.
Speaker 4: On talking side, your brain.
Speaker 3: While we're having this conversation right now, our brains is
Speaker 3: talking inside our brain. So that's what you got to navigate.
Speaker 3: When the lights turn off and it's just you and
Speaker 3: that mind of yours, that's your life. Yeah, so learn
Speaker 3: how to navigate and manage that. And you know, the
Speaker 3: better you're able to do that, the better you'll be
Speaker 3: able to deal with all of the external things that
Speaker 3: come that you can't control.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I did shout out to Sholin, but I did this
Speaker 2: landmark thing, and one of the things that I learned
Speaker 2: I walked away with is like, it's really the story
Speaker 2: we tell ourselves that matter. Like everything outside, like like
Speaker 2: you said, with perspective is just like, well, what is
Speaker 2: the story I'm telling myself in here? What is this
Speaker 2: invisible story I'm telling myself that may or may not
Speaker 2: be true. But controlling the mind it's very very, very
Speaker 2: very difficult. That's why I hints I'm in the serenity
Speaker 2: prayer stage of my life.
Speaker 3: But there's no such thing as a bad thought. There's
Speaker 3: only such thing as bad actions and speaking negativity. I
Speaker 3: think all types of wild shit all day. I mean,
Speaker 3: you think about some of the shit that popping your
Speaker 3: mind throughout there, like, man, fucked up ass thought, I
Speaker 3: got let me tell you what. But it's not until
Speaker 3: you let it drive your actions and your mentality that
Speaker 3: it becomes negative. There's no such thing as a negative thought.
Speaker 3: There's negative action, and if you speak negativity, then you
Speaker 3: know that's action. Speaking is an action. So until you
Speaker 3: speak some negative shit, it's no such thing as a
Speaker 3: negative thought in my mind.
Speaker 2: Well, when I first became Christian, I'm raised Jewish, but
Speaker 2: I became Christian at like thirty, I will say, you know,
Speaker 2: when you're born again, you're like religiously like oh snap,
Speaker 2: you know, trying to control everything.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, my brain is really messed up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my thoughts are terrible. I respect the religion. The religion, boy,
Speaker 3: you are a gangster man. That is a gangster perspective
Speaker 3: to have. You know what I mean, No matter which
Speaker 3: one you choose, I respect, I respect. I saw a
Speaker 3: post on Instagram that said what is the most normalized addiction?
Speaker 3: And I said, it's religion Because when you think about it,
Speaker 3: religion has normalized behavior in the name of a higher
Speaker 3: power that nobody has ever talked to. But the books
Speaker 3: that are written, the texts that are written, are interpreted
Speaker 3: by the same people that we look at and walking
Speaker 3: around every single day, So you think about human error
Speaker 3: and just power how that works, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like a lot of that those texts have been tampered with,
Speaker 3: if you will, so people utilizing that as a way
Speaker 3: to judge other people for where you're going to go.
Speaker 3: I never understood how somebody can be like you going
Speaker 3: to hell? Like when the last time you went? How
Speaker 3: you know?
Speaker 4: How you know when somebody's going?
Speaker 3: So I think it's you know, and I just spective,
Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm not religious, but I respect all religions.
Speaker 3: I've read the Torah, I've read the Bible, I've read.
Speaker 1: The Koran, You've read all of them.
Speaker 4: I'm not in.
Speaker 3: Totality, but I've read them, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And one of the things that is consistent is God.
Speaker 3: There's one God and everybody is trying to get to
Speaker 3: that one place. So for me, I always look at
Speaker 3: it as religion as the temp agency. God is the
Speaker 3: Fortune five hundred company, and people try to get you
Speaker 3: to convert, and you know.
Speaker 4: Feel the way that they feel.
Speaker 3: But my thing is, if I'm such a viable candidate,
Speaker 3: why can't I walk my application directly to the Fortune
Speaker 3: five hundred company. What's the difference between a pastor and me?
Speaker 3: Because God said in all of the text that we
Speaker 3: are creating in his image, So I should be able
Speaker 3: to have the same type of direct contact with this person,
Speaker 3: entity or thing that we can't see as the man
Speaker 3: who you trust to lead you into eternity is. So
Speaker 3: you know that's my personal perspective. But you know I
Speaker 3: respect all religions enough to know that. You know, it's
Speaker 3: tough when you switch. So salute to you because that
Speaker 3: was a gangst the move you made.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm telling you all the Jews in my family
Speaker 2: was best. Oh yeah, and it was weird because they
Speaker 2: were like, yo, Dad, you married a Jamaican. We go
Speaker 2: you eating pork over there?
Speaker 1: Like what are we even arguing about? Since when does
Speaker 1: Judaism even matter? Until I make a switch?
Speaker 3: Because you mean, Jesus as you stopped playing with us
Speaker 3: over here, it's a different game, man, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 4: But I respect. Has that been beneficial to you to switch?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, I mean I got to see a lot of
Speaker 1: the hypocrisies in both.
Speaker 2: But I think I used to think that everyone was
Speaker 2: born with a moral compass. More recently, I'm realizing that
Speaker 2: not everyone is born with a moral compass.
Speaker 1: But I thought we were all born with.
Speaker 4: A moral compass.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, meet a couple broke niggas, you
Speaker 1: realize that not everyone happening.
Speaker 3: These broke niggas have ruined You got you in here
Speaker 3: eating ravioli and canned salmon and shit, you stuck broke guys.
Speaker 4: Listen, take this as a as a lessons.
Speaker 3: As much as she don't want to fuck with broke
Speaker 3: dudes no more, she still got broke dude taste buds.
Speaker 4: Because if you funk right now.
Speaker 3: You'll never be able to get that taste out.
Speaker 4: Of her mouth.
Speaker 3: That's literally gonna leave it at that.
Speaker 1: Man, I hope they edited this all this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're gonna edit it out. But it's okay. It's love.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I don't want none of them that's watching this be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I knew I had a shot back at her. All
Speaker 3: I gotta do is make that grilled cheese with the
Speaker 3: bacon on top of be right.
Speaker 1: Back over to the now. I'm one of those women.
Speaker 2: I'm like the little clips you see online where the
Speaker 2: woman's like if a dude isn't making that much I'm like, yo,
Speaker 2: if you ain't even matching what I got and more,
Speaker 2: we're not doing it.
Speaker 1: I mean all the way down to assets.
Speaker 3: Really yep, No, I mean I mean, ain't nothing wrong
Speaker 3: with it now? Just at least you have served your
Speaker 3: duty to the community.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: You got me here cooking ravioli. You have done your
Speaker 3: due diligence, You have done your bif you have given
Speaker 3: I hope that one of them. I hope at least,
Speaker 3: what do you have one success story? They got to
Speaker 3: be one of all of the broke niggas that you
Speaker 3: dealt with. They got to be one that made it,
Speaker 3: that made it, that made it, that made it to
Speaker 3: be successful.
Speaker 4: Isn't that you? None?
Speaker 1: Let me tell you it's so sad because.
Speaker 2: Yeah, none.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, damn your track record is hard sad.
Speaker 2: Because I've mentored so many people in my life. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's a nigga with a job at UPS supervisor right now, Like, hey,
Speaker 3: I digress, you got me fucked up.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I make seventy six thousand dollars a year now. Now,
Speaker 3: I was making your money when I was fucking with you.
Speaker 3: So hey, man, if you send a letter into eating
Speaker 3: my broke fellas, not anonymous letter. Send an anonymous letter
Speaker 3: in and uh, let.
Speaker 2: It know that you're it's so hard to date me
Speaker 2: at this point it is impossible.
Speaker 4: What makes it hard to date you?
Speaker 1: That's because I do.
Speaker 2: I do full reference. Now I need numbers to exits,
Speaker 2: the same way you go to job, you have your references.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be like, look, give me the number, steel Excess.
Speaker 2: Let's have a conversation because I give up my number. Smikes,
Speaker 2: they gonna say, Yo, my only regret was sucking up.
Speaker 1: My only regret.
Speaker 3: My only regret is not making sure that she didn't
Speaker 3: get to go around some niggas that made her realize
Speaker 3: she had regrets that I should have kept her in
Speaker 3: the house eating ravioli and grilled cheese, and she'd have
Speaker 3: never knew it was nothing.
Speaker 4: Better of them.
Speaker 2: If you talk to some of them, be like, I
Speaker 2: know I should try to get you pregnant, because you
Speaker 2: know that's every guy's go to trap.
Speaker 1: Trap. Really yeah, I don't trust none of y'all.
Speaker 3: Man, that's crazy. I don't know where you trying to
Speaker 3: trap you. Where you was dating you? You must have
Speaker 3: been dating and death jam Vendetta that was great.
Speaker 1: God, it's interesting to me.
Speaker 3: It's very interesting to me to hear that, because I
Speaker 3: know it's true.
Speaker 1: They try to trap you.
Speaker 2: They need roofs, they need credits, they need You got
Speaker 2: to think if you come up on somebody, you you know,
Speaker 2: and you broke.
Speaker 4: But that's but that's ignorance. And in mind you.
Speaker 3: I speak from the perspective of I always say it's
Speaker 3: our fault.
Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong. I'm not blaming the woman. It's
Speaker 4: always the man's fault.
Speaker 1: I'm want to because they be perpetrating.
Speaker 3: But the reality is it's your fault. Though it's your fault,
Speaker 3: it's your fault as a woman. And I'm gonna tell you,
Speaker 3: I don't know how how real we can get on
Speaker 3: eating while broke. But these are the conversations you should
Speaker 3: have been having with them, niggas. Uh.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing.
Speaker 3: That I that I say, why I say it's your
Speaker 3: fault is in this Please? This is this is you know,
Speaker 3: this is you know, adult content, So you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. This is the reality. You are a woman,
Speaker 3: which means you have the prize, which is I agree
Speaker 3: with all this. The pussy pussy is valuable. It's one
Speaker 3: of the three things. They can be sold any where
Speaker 3: on earth. Guns, gold, and vagina will sell anywhere air
Speaker 3: is being breathed. There has never been a man anywhere
Speaker 3: that's been down to his last dollar and said, you
Speaker 3: know what about to start selling some dick that's never happened.
Speaker 4: That's never happened.
Speaker 3: So with that being said, if you have the asset
Speaker 3: that is valuable, you are in control of what you
Speaker 3: allow to be the key that opens the lot.
Speaker 1: I agree with you.
Speaker 3: So therefore, if you continue to allow yourself to be
Speaker 3: tricked by baller costumes, then that is what the heck
Speaker 3: baller costumes.
Speaker 4: You don't know what a baller costume is. They wear
Speaker 4: them all year round.
Speaker 3: You see this, all of this, all of this, it
Speaker 3: came from hard work. But I can give this the
Speaker 3: same watch, the same ring, the same bracelet to somebody
Speaker 3: who has nothing, and they'll be able to get you
Speaker 3: because they have this. And you assume that, because they're
Speaker 3: wearing this, that they are all of the things that
Speaker 3: comes with the shininess. And that's your fault because you
Speaker 3: don't ask the right questions.
Speaker 4: What you say you do.
Speaker 3: Now, I commend you, because that's what you're supposed to do,
Speaker 3: and I say the same thing the men. We gotta
Speaker 3: do better because y'all got a whole list that you
Speaker 3: just said, you checking references every man out here.
Speaker 4: You know what's on our list, pussy, that's it.
Speaker 3: We ain't updated our list since the beginning of the time.
Speaker 3: That's all we have on our list.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 3: So therefore we got to ask better questions too. I
Speaker 3: say that the men all the time. You got to
Speaker 3: treat your dick like you treat your Social Security number.
Speaker 3: If a woman walks up and asks you for your
Speaker 3: social you're gonna be like, what type of question is
Speaker 3: that man?
Speaker 4: Fuck out it?
Speaker 3: She walk up and ask you for some dick? You
Speaker 3: you serious?
Speaker 4: You're real? Give me, give me twenty minutes, let me
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And we don't even we don't even ask the type
Speaker 3: of questions that we should ask as men that would
Speaker 3: place value in who we are.
Speaker 2: I'm curious, So what kind of questions now that we're here.
Speaker 2: I know we're going over guys, but that's.
Speaker 4: All good, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, you want to know what type of questions
Speaker 3: that a man should ask? What is your gind of
Speaker 3: collegist name?
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good one. Okay.
Speaker 3: If she can't answer that like it's on the back
Speaker 3: of her driver's license, then that means she probably don't
Speaker 3: have no health insurance. So you mean to tell me, ma'am,
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to be working hard for some vagina you
Speaker 3: ain't even had inspected.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, that's.
Speaker 4: What's the last book that you read from cover to cover?
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good one. That's a better one than
Speaker 1: the Gin of Colleges.
Speaker 3: But I mean no, it's not because most women can't
Speaker 3: name their gno collegest because they don't have one.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, and then what's the next question?
Speaker 4: Oh, there's plenty of them.
Speaker 3: Let me think of a good one that a man
Speaker 3: should ask a woman. I don't want to get too
Speaker 3: in depth on the cooking while brother.
Speaker 1: How does that?
Speaker 2: How does that impact a man? Because usually it's men
Speaker 2: don't get really played like that?
Speaker 4: What you mean played like?
Speaker 2: Because you're like, why would a man benefit from that
Speaker 2: if all he seeks is viagina?
Speaker 3: Well, that's a man that's asking those questions, not a
Speaker 3: man who only seeks vagina. Because a man who only
Speaker 3: seeks vagina is not even asking you nothing he just
Speaker 3: acting like he want to hear what.
Speaker 1: You're saying and then so he could clone and be
Speaker 1: whatever you want him to be.
Speaker 3: So a man that's asking certain questions in mind, you
Speaker 3: I have a daughter who I'm raising, so I have
Speaker 3: to give her the cheeks. Like I hear women complain
Speaker 3: all the time about broke niggas and shit that niggas do,
Speaker 3: and I'd be like, well, what questions are you asking
Speaker 3: these niggas? Because it's very easy to find out if
Speaker 3: a man is a liar. You just got to be
Speaker 3: out of your comfort zone to be able to find
Speaker 3: out quicker than you have found out already.
Speaker 4: Stop asking the niggas. So what are your goals in
Speaker 4: five years? And what are your plans for the future?
Speaker 4: And what is what is? What is all that funk?
Speaker 4: All that man? How many times a week do you
Speaker 4: beat your dick? Sir?
Speaker 3: You see how the whole room stop. Now if you
Speaker 3: ask a man that and he like, well, what you
Speaker 3: mean why you ask me that? But that's a nigga
Speaker 3: who's thinking about what he's going to tell you. A
Speaker 3: man who's being forthcoming and truthful will say, wells it
Speaker 3: as much as I can. Now, you know, you're dealing
Speaker 3: with somebody who at least has the capacity to be
Speaker 3: able to have a direct conversation without filtering whatever it
Speaker 3: is he's going to say to you. Also another question,
Speaker 3: what's your relationship like.
Speaker 4: With your mother? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, we could you go on that all day.
Speaker 1: But there's some yeah, you.
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And another one you can ask, man, if I had
Speaker 3: if we were in a relationship with each other and
Speaker 3: I had a contract that said you owe me every
Speaker 3: dime you make from the moment you cheat on me
Speaker 3: to the rest of your life, would you sign it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right there, that should be the question always said as
Speaker 2: before they get buried.
Speaker 4: And if a.
Speaker 3: Niggas say yeah, I mean I never do that, ask
Speaker 3: you to get up and leave.
Speaker 4: Oh get up, get up and leave.
Speaker 3: Take it from me that if a niggas say he
Speaker 3: has signed that contract, that nigga is a serial killer,
Speaker 3: get up and least.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 4: No man in his right mind whatever agree to them terms.
Speaker 2: This is why I fall for the BS because I
Speaker 2: would have if he would have said what if, I
Speaker 2: would have.
Speaker 4: Been like, Oh, that's how you end.
Speaker 3: That's how sardines sitting the Indian style that is crazy apartment.
Speaker 1: That's that was a perfect example.
Speaker 2: I can't believe I would have for the sign answer
Speaker 2: the question correctly. There you okay, thank you for the lesson.
Speaker 2: Where can everybody keep up with Chico?
Speaker 3: Keep up with me on Instagram at Chico Bean, Facebook
Speaker 3: at Chico Bean. Followed the eighty five South show and
Speaker 3: all of the things that our company and and our
Speaker 3: team is in telling we have a conglomerate with a
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Speaker 3: podcast Network. Salut to Charlamagne, Salute to Dolly. You know,
Speaker 3: just you know, keeping out. Were on tour right now.
Speaker 3: We the ones we're going right after that toward ends.
Speaker 3: We starting the eighty five South back up, so you know,
Speaker 3: we got a lot of beautiful things. We got comment
Speaker 3: What about the book, Oh that's coming. I'm working on
Speaker 3: it now. So hopefully I'm thinking either by the end
Speaker 3: of the year or the top of next year, which
Speaker 3: be able to do it in Charlemagne already said he
Speaker 3: was going to look out for me and put me
Speaker 3: in place with some people that you.
Speaker 1: Know can yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: So I've already done the due diligence, if you will,
Speaker 3: So I'm looking forward to, you know, getting that out
Speaker 3: to the people so they can you know, have this
Speaker 3: type of dialogue that we're having amongst each other teachers.
Speaker 1: And then my last question, what's the last book you
Speaker 1: read from cover to back?
Speaker 3: What's the last book I read from cover to back?
Speaker 3: The last book I read? I just reread a book
Speaker 3: that changed my life, Conversations with God by Neil Donald Walsh.
Speaker 3: I just went through a situation that was very, very
Speaker 3: very trying on me personally, and I had to whenever
Speaker 3: I get to those points where I feel myself about
Speaker 3: to revert to a mentality that I feel like I
Speaker 3: have surpassed, I always go back and read that book
Speaker 3: because that book saved my life.
Speaker 2: I've heard people mention that book. I actually have it
Speaker 2: on a list of reading.
Speaker 4: Conversations with God by Neil Donald Walsh.
Speaker 1: That is, that's crazy, because that book is on my list.
Speaker 3: That book saved my life. If it wasn't for that book,
Speaker 3: my old uncle J. God bless you Uncle J. If
Speaker 3: you see this, when my uncle got murdered, my uncle
Speaker 3: that I told you about, I was that probably would
Speaker 3: say that was the darkest.
Speaker 4: Week of my life. Like that week after he was murdered.
Speaker 3: I was, you know, it was very dark time for me,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And a lot of the
Speaker 3: actions and things that I did during that time I'm
Speaker 3: still rectifying now. And I was sitting outside and you know,
Speaker 3: and the worst way that you can probably be out
Speaker 3: in public, if you you know, when I think back
Speaker 3: on it, and he came outside, he saw me. This
Speaker 3: is somebody I have a high level of respect for,
Speaker 3: one of my big homies. And he took what I
Speaker 3: had from me away from me. When the house came
Speaker 3: back out with the book and told me to go
Speaker 3: in the house and start reading. And under those circumstances,
Speaker 3: normally i'd have been like, man, the fuck out of here,
Speaker 3: and I'm out here, but something told me to go
Speaker 3: in the house and start reading.
Speaker 4: And when I did, it save my life.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna check it out, please, I will. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely.
Speaker 2: I had it on my list, so it's crazy that
Speaker 2: you brought it up, So yeah, I'll check it out.
Speaker 3: Another good one is The Way of the Superior Man.
Speaker 3: You should read that.
Speaker 1: I heard about that, but yeah, you should read the
Speaker 1: women should read it.
Speaker 4: Yes, women should read.
Speaker 3: That's the thing I think men should read the books
Speaker 3: that women read, and women should read the books that
Speaker 3: men read. In regards to not necessarily that men or
Speaker 3: women read, but that are catered towards men, women should
Speaker 3: read those books, and the books that are catered towards women.
Speaker 3: Men should read those books because it gives you insight
Speaker 3: into the perspective that you probably wouldn't get in the
Speaker 3: general dialogue with the opposite sex.
Speaker 2: Okay, you dropping gems. Thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 2: I really appreciate it, no problem. Thanks for opening up
Speaker 2: the eighty five South home this last episode.
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