1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 2: I'm your host coleeen Went and today we have very 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: special special guests Chico Ben in the building. 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, thank you, thank you for having me 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 3: on your wonderful, wonderful podcast. 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 4: This is a brilliant idea. I think this is dope. 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: Thank you and thank you for opening up. 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 2: I would like to say the eighty five South home 9 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: to me and being so hospitable. I absolutely love everything 10 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: about the eighty five South camp in totality. 11 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for showing me so much less. 12 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 3: Oh man, We you know, try to pride ourselves on 13 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 3: being a standard of you know, hospitality over here, to 14 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 3: say the least, So I'm glad that you were received 15 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 3: in that way. 16 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 17 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: I've been gossiping NonStop, but such amazing gossip behind your back. 18 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: Like yo, these guys are incredible. The character, the integrity 19 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: that every day, Oh my god, it's amazing. Good and 20 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: your dish. What are you gonna have us eating today? 21 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 4: Beef ravioli by chef Boyard. 22 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: Yes, this is a this is a real classic. It's money. 23 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: I don't think we've ever had it on the show, surprisingly, 24 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: which I've had everything you could imagine a hundred times over. 25 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: But I like that you and I are gonna take 26 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: one for teen today, right, We're gonna we're gonna take 27 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: baby baby baby. 28 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: Licks at it. 29 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 4: Pause. 30 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, we we're gonna do what we could do 31 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 3: to do to make sure that the content is what 32 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 3: it needs to be for you know, for the podcast. 33 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 3: We'll say that it's been a very long time since 34 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 3: I've been able to eat anything remotely close to this, 35 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: but there was a time in my life where this was, 36 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: you know, five course for me. 37 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: Okay, So I want to make sure the jogg your memory. 38 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: So I want to see you make chef for I 39 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: d okay, and uh, I want to take a swing 40 00:01:58,840 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: a swing at it. 41 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 4: Going okay, all right, so you just try not. 42 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: To let any guests leave without taking a bite of 43 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: their food. 44 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 4: Okay, all right? So I mean, I mean, is this on? 45 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: I think I turned the other one on? Maybe they 46 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: both of which is heating sauce. 47 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: By the way, I accidentally did try Chef Bard recently 48 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: and I was like, who was I think it? 49 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: Because I used to love it? 50 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, so did I. Oh boy, this is you got 51 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,839 Speaker 4: the memories memory. Oh boy. 52 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 3: See that's the thing. You got to it come out 53 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: and you got to you get that sound. That's what yeah, 54 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: all right, all right, now, see I don't know if 55 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: we got in need let me see what what what 56 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 3: type of flavorings. 57 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 4: We got over? 58 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: So we add an extra flavor? 59 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: Oh you got to, man, we got to. This is 60 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 3: a hood delicacy, you know what I mean. 61 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: Growing up? You know, I was what was called the 62 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 4: latch key kid. 63 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: So my mother, you know, would get up at three 64 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning to go to work since I 65 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 3: was since I can remember. So I've been kind of 66 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 3: cooking for myself and this little Italian season and right here, 67 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 3: give it a little bit of a little bit of 68 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: you know, make it seem like it's corrobbas or something 69 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: of that nature. 70 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: No, did you come from two parent household? 71 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 4: No? No, No, I did not come from a two 72 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 4: parent household. 73 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: My father was murdered when I was two years old, 74 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: so it was just my mother, and uh, you know, 75 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 3: because of that, she had to you know, it's a 76 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: little different back in the day. You know, we're going 77 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: black pepper right here, good in gather. We're going good 78 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: and gathered black pepper. And then uh, no, salt. We 79 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 3: try to stay away from the salt. As the garlic powder. 80 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: We'll do a little bit of garlic powder on. 81 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 4: There, just slightly. 82 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: Do you cook at home. 83 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: Now, yes, very much so private No, hell no, okay, 84 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: that is an expense I refuse to know. 85 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: So you're cooking, you're not eating out a lot? 86 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: Well, yes, we do eat out a lot because we 87 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: are out a lot with what we do for a living, 88 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: you know, I mean, you know, traveling and you know, 89 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: just being on the road all the time. It kind 90 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: of restricts what it is that you can eat because 91 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: our job don't start till eight pm, so by the 92 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: time we finish working, it's it's really not. 93 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: Much left open. So usually you have. 94 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: To go get something during the day to have after 95 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 3: when you finish. And you know what I mean, it's 96 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: it's very very much cooking when you go home, not 97 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 3: when you're on the road. It's very difficult to cook 98 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 3: when you're on it. You have to kind of set 99 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 3: yourself up to be able to cook. 100 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 4: On the road. 101 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: So if you weren't eat and you were at home currently. 102 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 3: Water, yeah, just to stretch it out a little bit 103 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: so it won't stick to the bottom of the pan. 104 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: Yeah you real, let me see. Uh yeah, right there, 105 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: we're right there. 106 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: I wasn't even that good. I was just heating in 107 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: the microwaves. 108 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 4: Oh no, yeah, no, we got to do it on 109 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 4: the stove. That's how you learn. 110 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: You get that mixed up and they get all them 111 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: flavors mixed in in there. You got to separate them too, 112 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: because if you don't separate them, then you'll have one 113 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 3: that's cooked on the top and then you into that bottom. 114 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: In that bottom with Bucky neked, it ain't got no 115 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: heat on it. So you gotta make sure you go 116 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 3: in and split them apart because they come in you know, 117 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: they be stuck together, so you gotta split them apart 118 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: right there. 119 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 4: Uh, there we go. 120 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: This is how I know I know. I know you 121 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: was broke. 122 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 4: Because I didn't. That's the thing. You knew I was broke. 123 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 4: I didn't. 124 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 3: I thought this was a delicacy because it really had 125 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 3: Chef boy I d on the can no listen. We 126 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: had a lot of that. 127 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 4: Well. 128 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 3: I can't remember the first the first time I ever 129 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 3: had Frosty Flakes with Tony on the box. 130 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 4: I was in college. My Frosty flakes. 131 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: Had a snowman on the box frosty flakes. That's what 132 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 3: we grew up eating, the frosty flakes with the eye 133 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: with the wire on them. 134 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 4: All right, So we're gonna let that just do his 135 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 4: thing right there. 136 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: We're gonna sit this off to the side, and then 137 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: you know it's getting right when it started the bubble 138 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: with the little bubble on it, then you're going you're 139 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: cooking with grease. 140 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: So take me back, take me back to this time. 141 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: Woh Boy Washington, d C. Born and raised in Washington, DC. 142 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: Grew up in the household with all my family members. 143 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: At first, I say, the first eight nine years of 144 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: my life. 145 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 4: I lived in the. 146 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: Household with my mother, my aunt Mary, who was like 147 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: my grandmother. My grandmother passed before I was born too, 148 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 3: so she was like the matriarch of the family. Four uncles, 149 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 3: my uncle Ricky, my uncle Reggie, you know, I mean, 150 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: my uncle Eric Harrold, who was you know, a cousin, 151 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 3: but he was like an uncle. Sheel was like a 152 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 3: who was a cousin but was like an aunt. They 153 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: grew up with my mother, my mother of course, cousin 154 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: Derk and it was just so many people in the household. 155 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 3: So I got to get the influence from all of 156 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: those different people, from you know, good. 157 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: Bad, and in different Were you an only child, No, I. 158 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 3: Have a little brother. I have a little brother who's 159 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: three years younger than me. But so I grew up 160 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: there and we moved into apartment, our first apartment my 161 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 3: mother got and this is where I would say my 162 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: culinary journey began. And it began with cam Ravioli because 163 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 3: it's an easy thing to make, you know, it was 164 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: very easy for my mother to show us how to 165 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: make that. It's just you just put it on the stove, 166 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: heat it up, you know what I mean, season it 167 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 3: to where you want to season it. Two, it was 168 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: a certain point where I was staying on the little 169 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 3: stool and cook it. Because she was always at work, 170 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 3: you know, she would have to get up at three 171 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning and catch three busses to get 172 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 3: to work, you know what I mean, and to go 173 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 3: be a custodian. So by the time she got home, 174 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: it was very red and she had the energy to 175 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 3: do anything but go back to sleep so she can 176 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: wake up in a couple more hours to go back 177 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: to work. 178 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 4: So for me. This was you know, me and my 179 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 4: little brothers. This was our delicacy. 180 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: There was no stepdad in the house or oh no. 181 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 4: No, no no. 182 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 3: There was you know, a couple of niggas that stepped in, 183 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: but they weren't step das as they were just doing 184 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: their thing, you know what I mean. And you know, 185 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: that's pretty much the dynamic of how you know, my 186 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: mother's relationships worked throughout my life. It was never very 187 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: She was a very, very very stern woman to say 188 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: the least. And I've learned from you know, God rest 189 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: her soul. I've learned that it takes a very special 190 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: type of man to deal with a woman who is 191 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 3: is very self aware and stern and not gonna let 192 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: you just play no games. You couldn't play no games 193 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: with Wanda Bean. You had to be honest. You had 194 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 3: to be forthcoming and forward. And if once she saw 195 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: that you weren't who you said you were, you wouldn't 196 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 3: want to be around her anyway. Oh I hit a bubble, 197 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: I hit a bubble, bubble, Wow, you gotta know you're 198 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: moving and around there we go. But I was fortunate 199 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: enough to have male influence. I don't want to make 200 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: it seem like I didn't have any male influence. 201 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 4: My uncle's and you. 202 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: Know, a lot of the guys I grew up with 203 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: in my neighborhoods. You know, I was very active as 204 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: a young man because my mother, you know, had a 205 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 3: different sentiment. I say, she raised me and reverse, you know, 206 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: with all the coddling and protection and you know, that's 207 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: my baby. You think that a woman would give a 208 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 3: young man whose father was a victim of gun violence 209 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 3: and you know, try to protect me from all the 210 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 3: things the streets of Washington, DC had to offer. That 211 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 3: wasn't her sentiment. She was like, you know, get out 212 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: there and do something. You the man of the house. 213 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 3: So I've always you I was the man of my 214 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 3: house early. I have responsibility my whole life. So at 215 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: the time when I was young, I didn't recognize how, 216 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 3: you know, blessed I was to have that responsibility. But 217 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: in hindsight, I do now, because now I realize that 218 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: it as an adult, a lot of the gentlemen who 219 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 3: I grew up with and I was around, who were 220 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 3: my peers and you know, older than me, still han't 221 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: learned to, you know, take responsibility in the way that 222 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: I did. When I was nine ten years old. So 223 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: as a man, it is you know, it's really prepared 224 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 3: me for you know, life in ways where I'm able 225 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 3: to do things instinctively that most people look at as 226 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 3: heroic effort, but for me, it's just what I'm you know, 227 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: used to doing. 228 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: Okay, But you were saying that she coddled you later 229 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: on though. 230 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 4: Oh yes, a grown man. 231 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 3: As a grown yes, yes, when I became once I 232 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 3: became a man and got out here and started to 233 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 3: you know, live my life, and she saw that the 234 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 3: lessons and things that she taught me were actually being 235 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 3: applied without her presence. That's when she opened up. Like 236 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: I didn't see my mother. I saw my mother cry. 237 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: I saw a fight before I saw a cry, Just 238 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: to put that in perspective, you know what I mean. 239 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 3: But by the time I became a grown man and 240 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 3: got out here, she would cry about everything. Was scared 241 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 3: of shit out me, every little thing. But hey, hey, 242 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 3: what's all this sensitivity you got going? But yeah, so 243 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 3: I would say that, you know, by the time I 244 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: became a grown man, that open you know, loving, you know, 245 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 3: that's my baby. 246 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 4: That's what she gave me, you know, that's what she 247 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 4: gave me for sure. 248 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think dang, I should take notes. I'm gonna 249 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: take notes from me. 250 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 3: Oh well, thank you so Ravioli cooking or just life? 251 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: Wow? 252 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 4: I mean. 253 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 2: So, now take me to get closer and closer to 254 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get to the road to where you're 255 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: at today. So at what point does what's your does 256 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: comedy enter the picture? 257 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: Comedy enters the picture? My after I graduated. 258 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: From college, after college, not even high school. No, No, 259 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: I love how everyone here is like a college graduate. 260 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 3: Well no, no, not at all. That was definitely not 261 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 3: my perspective in high school. High school. You know, I 262 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 3: had a very different vantage point than what I wanted to. 263 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 4: Do with myself. 264 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: What did you want to do in high school? 265 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 4: Be in the streets? Oh? 266 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: You wanted to be in the streets, as in like 267 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: a dope man. Yes, yes, that was a goal. 268 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 3: That was my Yes, without question, that was That's all 269 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 3: I wanted to do. All I wanted to do was 270 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: be active and be the man in my neighborhood, in 271 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: my section, and be known in that capacity because that's 272 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: what my environment bred and that's what was normalized where 273 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 3: I come from, you know, and my uncle Reggie God 274 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: rest his soul, was murdered in two thousand and two, 275 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 3: and I said, my father was killed when I was 276 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 3: two years old, and I don't remember. I have no 277 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 3: recollection of my father, But my uncle Reggie was like 278 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 3: my father. He was probably the closest thing that I 279 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 3: had to a father figure in the consistency of his 280 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: presence and in the things that he showed me how 281 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 3: to do as a man. A lot of my characteristics 282 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 3: and who I am as a man came from watching 283 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 3: and mimicking and just being around him. So when he 284 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 3: was killed, it scared me because I knew that my 285 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 3: goals and aspirations wanted to be in the streets. But 286 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 3: I thought he was invincible. It's certain people you think 287 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 3: it couldn't happen to, and I thought he was one 288 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 3: of those people. 289 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 4: So when it happened to him, I knew that. 290 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: You know, I've never been as much as I've always 291 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: been good at getting money and being responsible for myself. 292 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 3: I knew I wasn't a gorilla, you know, and he was, 293 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 3: and he lost his life in the streets. So I've 294 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 3: never had a problem with a problem. But I'm also 295 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: not aggressive, you know, just I'm not that person. You're 296 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: not going to do anything to me, But I don't 297 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: want to do anything to you either. 298 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 299 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 3: So that's always been my perspective. So when he lost 300 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 3: his life, that's what put me on a trajectory into where. 301 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 4: I am now. 302 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 3: I didn't even want to go to college before then. 303 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 3: I didn't know nothing about college. They didn't talk to 304 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 3: us about college in DC public schools. They were just 305 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 3: trying to get us to graduate before you know, something 306 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 3: happened to you, or get you out of there before 307 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: they realized you in the twelfth grade and only reading on. 308 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 4: The fourth grade. 309 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. 310 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 3: But you know, once I went to college, I went 311 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 3: to Winster Salem State University in Winston Salem, North Carolina, 312 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 3: where I still live and reside to this day. I went, 313 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 3: you know, matriculated through school, and you know, I joined 314 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: the fraternity and did all the things. I was immersed 315 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 3: in the college experience, and you know, I would host 316 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: all of the step shows and you know, the stroll 317 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 3: offs and all of the banquets. 318 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: You are hosting them, hosting them. Okay, so you're definitely 319 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: had sparks of outgoing. 320 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. I've always been that way. 321 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 3: Now, that's one thing I will say has always been 322 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 3: present in my life. I've always been public speaking. I 323 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: did my first public speaking at four years old on 324 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 3: Frederick Douglass in a competition. I was too young to 325 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 3: win and one okay, But so I've never I've never 326 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 3: been afraid to speak in front of people. 327 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 4: I've never had stage fright. 328 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: I've always been the person whenever they wanted somebody to 329 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 3: speak at a certain level and communicate at a certain level, 330 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: I was always wanted they would come and get Even 331 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 3: throughout my entire school and all that, I've always been 332 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 3: that person. My communication is, you know, my gift from God. 333 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: I know that now, but at that point I didn't, 334 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 3: but people were able to see that within me. So 335 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: when I graduated, I went home and you know, my mother. 336 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: I had never been to my father's grave site. So 337 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 3: I went to see my mom and told her I 338 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: was going to see my dad for the first time. 339 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: And I went to the gravesite. And when I went 340 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 3: to the grave site, they took me to a older 341 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 3: part of the grave site and you know, pointed to 342 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 3: the grass and was like he in this area somewhere, 343 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, you know, I hope I 344 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: put these flowers on the right nigga. 345 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 4: That was my first initial thought. 346 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: But but in that same vein, I was like, man, 347 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: whatever he had done in his life didn't garner him 348 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: enough to have a market to let the world know 349 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: that he existed. Nor did anybody around him have the capacity, 350 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: the or the ability to do so for him either. 351 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 3: So at that point I was like, Okay, I don't 352 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 3: know what I'm about to do, but I gotta do something. 353 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: You know, I can't be a patch of grass. I 354 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 3: gotta be more than that. I have to, you know, 355 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 3: leave more of a legacy than he was able to 356 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 3: leave before God took him away from here. So I 357 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 3: went home and it gave me a sheet of paper 358 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 3: at the gravesite, and I gave it to my mother, 359 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 3: and my mother looked at it and immediately started crying, 360 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 3: I mean balling crying. 361 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 4: She was like, he didn't down on his day. They 362 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 4: got the day that he died, wrong on his day. 363 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: And I'm just looking like in mind you, I told 364 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 3: you I saw my mother fight before I saw the 365 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 3: crist So this is like spooky to me. I'm kind 366 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: of standing there in all like no world is going on. 367 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 3: But then at that moment, I also recognizing that in 368 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 3: that moment that whatever was inside of that man impacted 369 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: this woman, who I know is a soldier, soldier to 370 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 3: where she's still reacting as though this just happened yesterday. 371 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: Wow. 372 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 3: So as even though I didn't have the ability to 373 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: be able to physically see this man or not this man, 374 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 3: I know this woman and I know how this woman 375 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 3: has displayed my entire life to me how strong she is. 376 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: But the sight of this man's death date being wrong 377 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: took her out of her body and just made her 378 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: lose it. So that means that whatever's inside of me 379 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 3: is what made her feel the way that she feels 380 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: about this moment right now. So I got something. I 381 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: don't know what it is, but I'm about to start 382 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 3: figuring it out. And my homeboy, Jerome God bless him, 383 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 3: Mom was like, man, you should do comedy. You should 384 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 3: do comedy. I'm like, man, I like comedy. I'm a 385 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 3: fan of comedy, but I ain't never thought about doing 386 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 3: no comedy. And he was like, all right, man, we look, 387 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 3: you need to do comedy, I'm telling you. So it 388 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 3: was an open mic night at the Greensboro Comedy's On, 389 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 3: which is my own club every first and second Thursday 390 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: of the month. 391 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 4: I went on the first Thursday and. 392 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 3: Watched everybody bomb and I was like, well, I can 393 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 3: at least do this bad and I went back the 394 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 3: next week. I did my four minutes on stage. That's 395 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 3: how much time they gave you at the open mic. 396 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 3: I did my four minutes. When I got off stage, 397 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 3: my feet hit the floor and I was like, this 398 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 3: is it, this is what I'm supposed to be doing. 399 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 4: And from that moment. 400 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: Time, yes, I did. 401 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 3: I did great, amazing My first time, this was right 402 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 3: around the time when Obama was running for president. It 403 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 3: was always so My first joke that I ever told 404 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: on stage was about what I wanted the inauguration to 405 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: look like should a black man win the presidency. Well, 406 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: it was basically like, I just don't want to have 407 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 3: a black president and it not be a black experience. 408 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 3: We already got Black History Month and we don't get 409 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 3: to do nothing if we got a black president. I 410 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 3: want a black inauguration. I'm talking about Frankie Beverly before 411 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 3: I let go to be played instead of the national anthem, 412 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 3: I want the best fried chicken chefs around the country 413 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 3: to be I'm talking about fried chicken on the stage 414 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 3: and making fun of whatever it is, the stereotypes that 415 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 3: white people thought that we was never going to be 416 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 3: able to get to this position. I want all of 417 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 3: those things to be put right in front of their face. 418 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 3: We in here now, you know what I mean. And 419 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 3: that was pretty much the basis of the joke. And 420 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 3: I got on stage and the guy who was the 421 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 3: leader of the open mic at that time, who was like, 422 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 3: the big name name is Chris Wilds, who's a mentor 423 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 3: of mine, pull me into the side. I was like, 424 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 3: it's your first time. He was like, man, that was 425 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 3: amazing for your first time. Man, that's great. 426 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 4: Man. Should you should? You should keep going. 427 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 3: Then at that point I had already made a decision 428 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 3: that devil what I was gonna do. But just getting 429 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 3: that level of confirmation from somebody who was a professional. 430 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 3: And then one thing I always tell people about comedy, 431 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 3: You always can tell who's funny from the wait staff. 432 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 3: If you ever go to a comedy club, don't ask 433 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 3: the owners. Don't ask the people, Ask the waitresses, the 434 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 3: people who work at the club, because they are there 435 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 3: every weekend watching these shows and they get a different 436 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 3: perspective on what comedy is because they watched so much 437 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 3: of it. So after Chris told me I was funny, 438 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 3: Waitress Ghetto, who was my homie, came up to me 439 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 3: and was like, you funny as fuck. You need to 440 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 3: come back all the time. And so that was my 441 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 3: introduction to comedy. So from that moment on, I been 442 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 3: doing comedy. And then that the next month, that next show, 443 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 3: I went back like I was Eddie Murphy and bombed, 444 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 3: and then you know, I got my come up ins 445 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 3: in that regard. This is going to take some work. 446 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: You know, You're not just gonna be able to get 447 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 3: up here and wing it. You're gonna have to actually 448 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 3: put your effort and time into this. And that's the 449 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: reason why I stayed in North Carolina because I knew 450 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 3: if I went home to d C, I knew too 451 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 3: many people and too many people knew me. So when 452 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 3: people know you for something, it's very difficult for you 453 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: to be able to. 454 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 4: Get out of that box that they know you for. 455 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, because if they know you 456 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 3: for being a certain way, when I come and I 457 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 3: know what chasing a dream entails, you know I have 458 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 3: already had that perspective on what it took to make 459 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 3: it to do anything, because, like I said, I've always 460 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 3: had responsibility. So I knew if I went home and 461 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 3: you know, people that know me are saying, damn, bro, 462 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 3: you broken, And they say. 463 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 4: Is who don't know you is different? 464 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, when it's somebody who you know is coming from 465 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 3: a place of maliciousness and they really are concerned, it 466 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 3: makes you feel a little different. So I stayed in 467 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: North Carolina where I didn't know anybody, and I said, 468 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna make it work here. And it's the best 469 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 3: decision I ever made. I think we might think you 470 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 3: might be in the game. 471 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: Hold up, so how long did you struggle for? I 472 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: love that you're getting into this. Wait, did the raviolis break? 473 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 4: That's what you want. You want that meat and the sauce. 474 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 3: You want certain ones to break open because you want 475 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 3: that meat and the sauce. So even if you don't 476 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 3: get a ravioli, that sauce still has the beef in it, 477 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 3: so it's like, you know, that's why I put the 478 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: water in it so it don't get sticky. But even 479 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: when they break up, you want that flavor to get up. 480 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 4: In there. 481 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we are legit. 482 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 4: Let me move it over to here. You gonna let 483 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 4: that just marinate a little bit. But what was your question? 484 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: Make sure you turn off that stove, man? 485 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't want to leave eighty five, not 486 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 2: the way I found it. 487 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 4: There we go. 488 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: So how long did you struggle for. 489 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 4: Man? Struggle? You mean financially? 490 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 3: Financially financially from two thousand and eight to about two 491 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 3: thousand and sixteen. 492 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: So eight eight years. And then during that struggle, how 493 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: bad was it on you mindset and emotionally? 494 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 4: Like? 495 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: How much questioning did you do? 496 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 3: I never questioned whether or not I was doing the 497 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 3: right thing. I always questioned whether or not I was 498 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 3: doing it the right way. But how bad it got 499 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 3: for me? Boy, I wouldn't even check my mailbox because 500 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: I knew it wasn't nothing in it. I had so 501 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 3: much mail in my mailbox they thought I. 502 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: Moved because you thought it was just bills or something ought. 503 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 2: That's all I want to understand that, Because like, I 504 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: used to hang out with some guys that couldn't afford 505 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: their bills, and I'd be like, yo, you not opening 506 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 2: it and not dealing with it doesn't make it go away. 507 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it makes me not have to look at 508 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 3: what I'm not having at the moment. You'll get it 509 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: when I get it. When I get it, I get 510 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 3: back with all of y'all. You know what I'm saying, 511 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 3: But you know the reality of it was I knew that, 512 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 3: you know my responsibility the way that I've been taught 513 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 3: and raised. The reason why I didn't want to look 514 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 3: at it or didn't want to put myself in that 515 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 3: position is because I know how to get money. I 516 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 3: know how to go and do something that's gonna garner 517 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 3: me some type of financial game. But I don't want 518 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 3: to look at something that I know I don't have 519 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 3: and force myself into thinking that this is the only 520 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 3: way I'm gonna be it, because, like you said, it's 521 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: not gonna go away. 522 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not. 523 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 3: Whether I pay it today or in ten years, I'm 524 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 3: still gonna have to deal with this. So I rather 525 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 3: continue my journey and find my way and deal with 526 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 3: it when I can deal with it the right way. 527 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 3: And that was the best decision because even once I 528 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 3: got on TV, I got on TV in twenty thirteen, 529 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 3: so I didn't start making money to where I was 530 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 3: able to get. 531 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: Ahead of what was your first move on TV? It 532 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 2: was in twenty thirteen. 533 00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 4: That's when we get on TV and. 534 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: You start two thous eight. 535 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 4: Okay, So it took me from two thousand and eight 536 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 4: to twenty. 537 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: Thirteen, and you still wasn't like financially, No, no, damn. 538 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 3: And that and when I say twenty sixteen, I just 539 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 3: took the struggle away. I wasn't struggling once twenty sixteen came. 540 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: But I still stayed in my college apartment from twenty 541 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 3: thirteen to two thousand and seventeen, So I was stacking 542 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 3: money up because I was still paying the same amount 543 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: of rent that I was paying when I was broke. Smart, 544 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 3: so I was able to get ahead of the bills 545 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 3: that I owed in that space. But then once twenty 546 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 3: seventeen came, I was able to start to get all 547 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 3: of the debt that I owed diminished. 548 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: Did your mind play any tricks on you? 549 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 2: Because at this point you getting what I would say 550 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: is like the accolades, but maybe the financials aren't matching it. 551 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: Did your mind mess with you a little bit on 552 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 2: that or your ego? No? 553 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 3: No, that's that's where I'm blessed because in those times 554 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 3: where I was talking about growing up and having those responsibilities, 555 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 3: those are the times where my ego messed with me 556 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 3: when I was missing the bike rides and missing the 557 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: football games because I had to walk to the safeway 558 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 3: and get the groceries for the house. 559 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 4: And so I learned how to deal with that very 560 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 4: early in life. 561 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 3: So by the time I got to a grown man 562 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 3: and I was following those things, then I don't care 563 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 3: what anybody thinks about me. 564 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 4: That's you know, I'm. 565 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 3: Very, very very selective with whose opinions I let matter 566 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 3: in my life. So if you're not one of those people, 567 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 3: you can think whatever you want to think about me. 568 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 4: That's your right. 569 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 3: You have the right to your opinion, just like I 570 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 3: have the right not to give a fuck about it. 571 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 4: So we even so, by. 572 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 3: The time I got to chasing this dream, those things 573 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 3: didn't bother me at all. 574 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 4: What bothered me was feeling like. 575 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: If I would have made a different move here, I 576 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 3: might have not had to deal with this at this moment. 577 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 4: But you know, that was just the most difficult process. 578 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 3: Outside of that, I didn't have any problems with, you know, 579 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: perspective of others. 580 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: And during this your mom's still present. Yes, okay, for sure. 581 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: So can you just take me to how you ended 582 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: up getting on walling out? 583 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a very unique story too, young lady who 584 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 3: I'm sure you might be familiar with Dolly Bishops. 585 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: I love Dolly. Yeah, that's that is that is my 586 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: baby and my baby. 587 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 4: We went to school together. 588 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know that. 589 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, we went to Winston Seld State together. So at 590 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 3: this time and we came up together, like I. 591 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: Did not know that. I know, you guys are cool. 592 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: She mentioned. 593 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 4: Dolly is like there's nothing that she couldn't ask me for. 594 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 3: There's nothing I wouldn't do for to this day, like 595 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 3: if she was to call me and ask me for anything, 596 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 3: you know, there's no situation she can be and why 597 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 3: I wouldn't stand by her side. 598 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: I feel about her. 599 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 3: But she was working with Nick Cannon at the time 600 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 3: as his assistant both eaton while I broke at that time. 601 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 4: For you know, yeah, she was you know. 602 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: Nine ten. 603 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Nick was having a show called The Fresh 604 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 3: Faces of Comedy in New York. So Dolly, being an 605 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 3: advocate for you know us knowing us doing comedy in 606 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 3: North Carolina, said that she wanted us to come up 607 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 3: to do one of the shows. Myself and a gentleman 608 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 3: named Beatott, who was a person that I started with 609 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 3: in North Carolina w also as a graduate of Wants 610 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 3: to sell them State University. And that went up the 611 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 3: first week, and I went up the second week to 612 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 3: do it. And when I went up the second week, 613 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 3: when I walked into the comedy club, the owner of 614 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 3: the club was like, all right, man, we don't know 615 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 3: who you are, so you can't say the N words. 616 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 3: You can't talk about this, you can't talk about that. 617 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 3: You're gonna see if you're funny now at this point, 618 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 3: that's what I planned on talking to. So I went outside. 619 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 3: And I don't really write jokes. That's not my process. 620 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 3: I write down the idea, but my creative processes I 621 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 3: walk around and talk to myself. That's how I get it, 622 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 3: you know. 623 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: So do you still record all your sets? 624 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 4: No? 625 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: No, have you ever? 626 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 3: Sometimes? But I have a very very keen memory. That's 627 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 3: one of my gifts. I'm able to remember things, especially 628 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 3: things that come out of my mind. 629 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 4: Once I get it. 630 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 3: Out and I hear it, it's there, you know, I'm 631 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 3: able to retain it. So I was outside making up 632 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 3: my set. And as I was out there talking to 633 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 3: myself walking around in the circle, Nick came up and 634 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 3: I'm sure now I know he just thought I was 635 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 3: just some crazy nigga outside talking to himself in New York. 636 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 3: But I went on stage and did my ten minutes 637 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 3: and killed because my set was. 638 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 4: About what just happened. 639 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: Okay, Oh brilliant, yeah, brilliant. 640 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 4: It was literally about what just happened. 641 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 3: So and it was about my day that I had 642 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 3: that day leading up until me being on stage. And 643 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 3: when I got off stage, Nick was like, man, hey. 644 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 4: Bro let me. 645 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 3: I'll let you real quick. And he was like, man, 646 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,959 Speaker 3: was you just outside making all that up? Because I 647 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: said something about him walking in seeing me talking to 648 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 3: myself on stage, He said, was you just making that 649 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 3: up outside? I'm like yeah, he said, Man, I'm around 650 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 3: some of the best in the game. They can't do 651 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 3: what you just did. Keep working so fast forward the 652 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 3: next day, Dall invites me out to six Flags with them, 653 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 3: and at this point, I'm just a fly on the wall. 654 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: On the wall, I mean, I'm nobody at this point 655 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 3: in regards to you know where I sit now. And 656 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 3: you know, I was out hanging with Dolly with Nick 657 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 3: and everything, and we went up to ride a roller 658 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 3: coaster and this is as close as I'd ever been. 659 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 4: To fame, you know that type. 660 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 2: Wow. 661 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm watching Nick walk up to ride the 662 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: roller coaster and people are going crazy, ah, trying to 663 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 3: take pictures, and the lady on the microphone that you 664 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 3: use to say take off, and she's like, don't hang 665 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 3: over the rails, and it's just trying to calm people down. 666 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 3: And I'm looking like, Okay, if I make an impact 667 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 3: in this game the way I feel like I'm going 668 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 3: to and want to, this is what my life life 669 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 3: will be. 670 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 4: Can you deal with this? Can you deal with. 671 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 3: Not being able to ride a roller coaster without people 672 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 3: wanting to make noise and running up on you all 673 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 3: the time? 674 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 4: And I said, and I looked and I thought about it, 675 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 4: and I was like, yeah, I can do it. I 676 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,479 Speaker 4: can do it. I can do it. 677 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: Well, Nick has it easier compared to because I remember 678 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: I did an event with Nick and Mariah once and 679 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: never was phased by some of the stuff that Nick 680 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: went through. I feel like he is truly a trooper 681 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 2: when it comes to that stuff. But seeing what Mariah 682 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: went through. I said that that I hate to say it, 683 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 2: but that life sucks because Mariah was like almost like 684 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 2: an animal like people. 685 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: Just she needed so much protection. 686 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: And I was like, yo, I actually feel bad, Like 687 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 2: can you imagine never going to a grocery store. 688 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a different that's another level, you know. 689 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: But Nick's level is cool. 690 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 3: No, I mean, you know, it depends on the environment. 691 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 3: You know, there are certain people who no matter what 692 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 3: environment they go to, is going to be that. There's 693 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 3: some people who you go to certain environments where it 694 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 3: won't be that, but if you go to certain places, 695 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 3: it's going to be pandemonium. So you know, that was 696 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 3: my introduction to you know, Nick Cannon. Fast forward two 697 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: years later, almost I see a tweet that he's bringing 698 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 3: back wilding Out. So I immediately called doll like, dollars 699 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 3: is real. She's like, yes, it's real. He has already 700 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 3: been talking about. So I'm like, man, whatever I got 701 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 3: to do, Man, let me know, because I had just 702 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 3: found out that I was getting laid off from my job. Now, 703 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 3: my job that I was working at the time, I 704 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 3: was a qualified professional. I worked with people with substance 705 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 3: abuse issues, autism. 706 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 4: All of the difference. 707 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know job. 708 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 4: Yeah when I before I became comedian full time. 709 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: Yes, And what was your college degree in? 710 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 3: It was in communications radio television with a minor in sociology. 711 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So the sociology is what I was using 712 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 3: to pay the bills up until I was able to 713 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 3: make comedy and entertainment my main source of income. But 714 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: I found out I was getting laid off. So Nick 715 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 3: ended up doing an audition in North Carolina because he 716 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 3: had a radio show that was naturally syndicated at the time, 717 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 3: so it was one of his affiliates in North Carolina. 718 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 3: So he just did a thing where he did an audition. 719 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 3: So me and my guy beat out went up and 720 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 3: did the audition, and he tells this story, which is interesting. 721 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 4: I didn't even get this perspective. He said. 722 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 3: When he went in, you know, it was cool and 723 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 3: wasn't nobody really laughing. But from his vantage point, he said, 724 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 3: when I walked into the room, he said, I wasn't 725 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 3: in there for ten fifteen seconds before the room erupted 726 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 3: and laughter. 727 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 4: So that was my first audition. 728 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 3: And then Nick was like, you know, man, this was 729 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 3: just something I was doing, just to do, like as 730 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 3: a mock thing, but you just you got to come 731 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 3: to the real audition. So he invited me up to 732 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 3: New York to come to the real audition. Now at 733 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 3: this point, I'm like, how nay, hell, am I gonna 734 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 3: get to New York because I'm broke, you know what 735 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 3: I mean. So I took some clothes. I've always been very. 736 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: I was gonna say yours. We got to point it 737 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: out at the end. But your accessories, your stall and everything. 738 00:31:59,160 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 4: That's crazy. 739 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 3: And that's always been something that I've taken prior and 740 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 3: that's that's my only vice. That's always been my vice 741 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 3: because I started buying my own clothes when I was 742 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 3: thirteen years old and I've been doing it ever since. 743 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 3: So it's embedded in me. So I always have nice 744 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 3: clothing and jewelry. Oh yeah, it was not The jewelry 745 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: wasn't always nice, but the clothing was always decent. But uh, 746 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 3: I took some clothes to play those closet and traded 747 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 3: in the clothes to get the plane ticket to go. 748 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 4: To New York. 749 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 750 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 3: And when I got to New York, I did the 751 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 3: second audition, and I made a joke about the fact 752 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 3: that I had to do good enough to come and 753 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 3: have to do good again, and then I you know, 754 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 3: killed the audition then. And then at the end it 755 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 3: was like, hey, remember that joke you made at the 756 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 3: beginning of your audition about having to come do good again? Yeah, 757 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 3: we were gonna need you to fly back up to 758 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 3: New York next week. 759 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh God, did you just well at 760 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: that point, wasn't Dolly staying in New York? 761 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: Couldn't you have? 762 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 3: Like? 763 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I could I stay. I did stay 764 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 4: with you? 765 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: Oh did you pull that movie man to New York? 766 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 767 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 3: So I remember going to my rental office and the 768 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 3: lady at the rental office, who you know, is a 769 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 3: lovely lady, still friends to this day, and she tells 770 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 3: me how proud she is of me all the time 771 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 3: and always jokes about this. 772 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 4: You know. She the reason I made it. 773 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 3: But I went to her and told her, like, I 774 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 3: have an opportunity that can change my life, and I'm 775 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 3: gonna have to be laid on my rent to make 776 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 3: this opportunity happen. But I promise you, just you know, 777 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 3: give me, give me a couple more days, please, if 778 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 3: I can just get it to you. You know, I'll 779 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 3: be forever in your gratitude. She was like, baby, whatever 780 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 3: you got going on, I can see in your eyes, 781 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 3: go go do whatever you need to do. 782 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 4: I'll make it work. And I went back up to 783 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 4: New York. 784 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 3: We did the group audition, and then after the group audition, 785 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 3: I had, you know, waited a couple of weeks audition 786 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 3: where they had all of the people that are considering 787 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 3: for the show at the time. And I did the 788 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 3: group audition, and when I came back home, probably about 789 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 3: a week and a half. Two weeks later, I got 790 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 3: a call from now Evans, who's one of the producers 791 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 3: on the show, and he said, yeah, man, unfortunately we're 792 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 3: not going to be able to bring you in. 793 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 4: The workshop for the show. I was like, damn. He's like, yeah, 794 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 4: but welcome to the cast. A while orn out. 795 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 3: You made it, so some people have to come in 796 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 3: and work. He was like, you made the cast and 797 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 3: that was a tough one. 798 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. So I got. 799 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 3: Officially laid off January eleven, if I believe it was, 800 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 3: which was a Friday. That Monday, I flew out to 801 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 3: shoot Wilder Out. I haven't worked since then. 802 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: Wow, what an incredible incredible, incredible story. Do you and 803 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 2: Dall ever look back and joke about. 804 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 4: All the time? 805 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 3: All the time, man, all the time, like because we 806 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 3: came up together, Like we really literally came up together, 807 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 3: like our whole experience, our whole growth process. Like to 808 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 3: say I'm proud of her is an understatement, you know, 809 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 3: because you know, we were having these conversations about what 810 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 3: we were going to do and going through those you know, 811 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 3: we were each other's therapists for years when it came 812 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 3: to trying to go through all of the the ups 813 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 3: and downs of entertainment, you know, from both sides of 814 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 3: the game, from her being on the other side of 815 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 3: the camera and me being on this side of the camera. 816 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 3: So you know, just seeing the growth that we both 817 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 3: have been able to experience, coming from where we come 818 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 3: from and really coming from starting together in the process 819 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 3: of making the name for ourselves. 820 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 4: Man, it's a blessing, you know. 821 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I can't even really put in the words 822 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 3: how proud I am of her. And I know from 823 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 3: all of the things that she's done and all of 824 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 3: the love and you know, just opportunities that she's garnered 825 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 3: me just from believing the meat the way that she 826 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 3: has throughout the years. There's no doubt in my mind 827 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 3: that she's my biggest fan. 828 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it says a lot too. 829 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 2: Whenever I hear someone say they're friends with Dolly, I'm like, yo, 830 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 2: you must have some level of integrity, some great level 831 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 2: of integrity. Yeah at all, because I feel like with 832 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 2: Doll there's just so much integrity. 833 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 4: And most people don't know who she really is. I 834 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 4: know her for real, like for real, I feel like 835 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 4: I know Doug most. 836 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: I know her. 837 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 4: She's authentic. 838 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 3: She is a very authentic, but there's a side of 839 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 3: her that most people would be shocked if they saw. 840 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 4: I just leave it at down. 841 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 2: I believe that I recently had a conversation with her 842 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 2: that actually did shock me, and I kind of felt 843 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 2: bad afterwards, like you know, like that was shocked, Like 844 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 2: I saw a more vulnerable side of her than she 845 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 2: She shows so much strength that I was actually taken back, 846 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: and I was like, damn, that's why we got to 847 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 2: be nice to the people that think we think are 848 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 2: so strong, like even like your mom, you. 849 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 3: Know, like if you if you knew Dog's background, man, 850 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 3: And that's the thing. I know her whole family like everybody, 851 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 3: like you. 852 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: Know, oh you know them when I show up. 853 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 4: I show up. You know, I'm family, you know what 854 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 4: I mean? Like this is it? 855 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 3: It's different with us, like that's my partner, you know 856 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 3: what I mean, like point blank period that there's nothing 857 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 3: that I wouldn't share with There's nothing we wouldn't share 858 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 3: with each other. We never lied to each other about anything, 859 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 3: no matter what it is. So you know when I 860 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 3: go and you know, show up to see where she 861 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 3: comes from and vice versa, Like people would never know 862 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 3: our backgrounds when you meet us and have conversations with us, 863 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,479 Speaker 3: you would never know that we come from the type 864 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 3: of environments that we come from. 865 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 4: But it'll really. 866 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 3: Shock you, like people, people, people would be ten times 867 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 3: more enaminate shocked with her as a person if they 868 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 3: knew where she came from. 869 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm a little familiar, but not all the way. 870 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 2: But I know she came from a lot. But we're 871 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and try to Yeah, we're gonna have 872 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 2: to test your seasoning skills. 873 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna put one in here, and I'm gonna put 874 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 3: one in here because I don't think they got any 875 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 3: type of antaskit or anything for us here what you 876 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 3: say and acids? 877 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 878 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna try and avoid as much of the beef 879 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 2: because I am allergic. 880 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 4: I mean too. 881 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm gonna get the tip. 882 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not gonna get the tip or nothing, but 883 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get a little bit of this noodle here and. 884 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: I got the noodle sire shit h. 885 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 4: Y y that's the same. 886 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, still even with the season. 887 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, still still chef id It's crazy. 888 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 2: I used to like when I would go to the 889 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 2: grocery store with my parents, I used to like pray. 890 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 2: I would never really ask because you know, my parents 891 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 2: would tell you can ask, but they always see the answer. No, 892 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 2: it just gets annoying after a while. But I used 893 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 2: to always pray. They would put like shepherd d in 894 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 2: the basket. I used to think this was like filet. 895 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 4: Oh yeah it was back in the day. 896 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: But now but now I'm like, yo, what was I think? 897 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 2: Oh? 898 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, that used to leave a film in your mouth. 899 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 2: What are some things that you learned about the industry 900 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 2: after coming that were tough lessons? 901 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:46,720 Speaker 4: Man? 902 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 3: Tough lessons. Uh, integrity is far and few between. But 903 00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 3: people pretending to happen. 904 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 4: Integrity is everywhere you go. So when you meet somebody who. 905 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 3: Is able to where everybody wears masks, you know just 906 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 3: in general everybody does in some way, shape or form. 907 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 4: But it's very difficult. 908 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 3: To deal with the things that come with this industry 909 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 3: when people got on two and three and four masks 910 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 3: and you think that you know somebody somebody then they 911 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 3: take a mask off and you realize they're not who 912 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 3: they are, and they'd be like, well, I was just 913 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 3: wearing that one just to be in this environment, and 914 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 3: you see them take another one off, and its integrity 915 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 3: is very, very fond few between real integrity. 916 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 4: Another hard lesson that I've learned is. 917 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 3: Every opportunity doesn't come with a check attached to it. 918 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 3: Some opportunity is just opportunity, and you have to be 919 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 3: able to accept opportunity without being given any compensation for 920 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 3: it to really gain what is really there for you 921 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 3: to be compensated for it in the long run. So 922 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 3: there have been and it's not after coming into the industry, 923 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 3: but prior to coming to the industry, there were a 924 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 3: lot of opportunities that I turned down because I needed 925 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 3: money so bad and there was no money there that 926 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,240 Speaker 3: would have taught me certain lessons that I learned after 927 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 3: getting money that would have saved me some money. 928 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 4: If that makes sense. 929 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: No, it makes sense. It makes a lot of sense. 930 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 2: What I've learned even just being here the last couple 931 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 2: of weeks, is that everyone that has been on this 932 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 2: set like they are every corner, they're looking for a 933 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 2: window of opportunity and they are maximizing on it. And 934 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 2: a lot of the opportunities I've heard sitting here this 935 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 2: last week, a lot of them were not tied to 936 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 2: a check. Yeah, but it definitely was a pivotal moment 937 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 2: that led to that check wasn't right around the corner either. 938 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 2: That's why I'm always curious about, like what the mindset 939 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 2: is when you're going through that. I know me personally, 940 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 2: I'm always back my FOD, like, am I doing the 941 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 2: right thing? Is this is gonna be my last run? 942 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 2: Is this almost up? What's my next game plan? What's 943 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 2: my next move? But you know, it's great when you 944 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 2: love what you do. I love hearing people's stories like 945 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 2: I love this stuff, Like I literally like I could 946 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 2: do this all day for the rest of my life. 947 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 4: What made you start to do this? Why this of all. 948 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: Things, because I I love me and broke guye, but 949 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 1: a lot of my friends a lot. 950 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 2: Of time out now I love me and broke and 951 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,240 Speaker 2: I'm just saying past me, past sends me. 952 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: You say that, let me say it right now. 953 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,919 Speaker 4: I'm past tense, past tense. 954 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this. 955 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 3: I'm telling you this a nigga eating some ravioli right 956 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 3: now that just drop the bowl like nigga. 957 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 4: I knew she was. 958 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,879 Speaker 2: Mine, so I used to love me a broke guye 959 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 2: and I started. But I also noticed that I had 960 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 2: these like two different worlds I was in. I was 961 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 2: constantly in the world of by accident or whatever, like 962 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 2: I had Nick Cannon as a business partner for ten 963 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 2: plus years, or always be in these environments where somebody 964 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 2: in my life was extreme levels of success and being 965 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 2: around them their thought process more aligned with mine. But 966 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,280 Speaker 2: growing up where I'm from, I'm more comfortable over here 967 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 2: in Brokeland. And one of my homies used to when 968 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 2: I went through a breakup, because you know, some guys 969 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 2: are more insecure than others. They'd be like, man, you 970 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 2: can't hang out with this rich guy and I'm over 971 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 2: here and we don't like you doing that. So journal 972 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 2: one of my breakups, I was like, you know what, 973 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 2: fuck that, I'm gonna hang out with whoever. Fuck I 974 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 2: want my real friends, which were successful people. But you know, 975 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 2: I was constantly in between both worlds. So I started 976 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 2: spending more time with my successful friends and they would 977 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 2: tell me these amazing stories on like who they were 978 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 2: to get to where they're at. And at the time, 979 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 2: I was going through a breakup and one of my homies, 980 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 2: day storm Power, shout out to him. He always told 981 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 2: these stories about like how he's an ascory, he went 982 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 2: to jail, he did this, he did that, he did 983 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 2: this intern da da da, and then like someone else 984 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 2: that was successful, chiming, and they tell their story and 985 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 2: I'd be like, man, these stories are so fascinating. I 986 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 2: could listen to them forever. And I love mentorship. And 987 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 2: so the stars aligned and I was thinking about the 988 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 2: process and the pandemic hit true story. Dolly plays a 989 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 2: ironically weird role in my story. But Dolly and I, 990 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 2: you know, we work with Nick together, and we both 991 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 2: checked out. I'll say a couple of years within, you know, 992 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 2: going growing up in the industry and seeing men go broke, 993 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 2: seeing men had their kids sleep on floors, living closets. 994 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 2: You exposed to so much craziness in LA and being 995 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 2: in the industry, you'd be like, man, is this going 996 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 2: to be my life? Especially as a young person, you 997 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 2: be like, man, this dude's broken. He's ten years older me. 998 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 2: He got his wife and his kids sleeping in the 999 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 2: car and he still was he doing it for the groupies, 1000 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 2: you know. So I was trying to get traumatized by 1001 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 2: like some of the brokeness I saw, and I was like, man, 1002 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,800 Speaker 2: I was telling Nick, like, Nick, I should make it 1003 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 2: when I'm twenty four, I should be a billionaire, and 1004 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 2: He's like, don't worry about that. Like a lot of 1005 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 2: stuff is fake. But anyways, hanging out with my friends, 1006 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 2: I started to realize like different mindsets and now I'm 1007 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,240 Speaker 2: at the point where I'm like, you know what, maybe 1008 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 2: I just belong here and this is who I'm comfortable with. 1009 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 2: Like I'm comfortable with my broke friends, but now I'm like, 1010 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 2: I'm also comfortable with my rich friends because they're the 1011 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 2: mindset currently is more aligned than these over here. But anyways, 1012 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 2: long story short, the pandemic happens my current business tanks. 1013 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 2: It was a corporate events company, and uh, I'm like, yo, 1014 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 2: I want to do this, So I pitched my friends. 1015 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 2: Of course, all the celebrity friends like you gotta do it. 1016 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:27,399 Speaker 1: You won't have a choice. 1017 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 2: They're like, girl, you ain't never done nothing in front 1018 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,760 Speaker 2: of the camera, and you don't have no production values whatever. 1019 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 2: And I was out the game for ten years. I 1020 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 2: was like, Dolly, you have more celebrity relationships than me 1021 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 2: at this point, so you got to be my partner. 1022 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 2: You don't have a choice. You're gonna be my partner 1023 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 2: because I need your roller decks whatever. And fast forward 1024 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 2: she becomes the president of Black Effect. Fast forward, they 1025 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 2: need a cooking show. Fast forward my baby that I 1026 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 2: had been working on during the pandemic. She calls me. 1027 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 2: She's like, you're gonna murder me and I'm like why. 1028 00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 2: She's like, I had this call with Icmiheart and everybody, 1029 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 2: and they need a cooking show. So I pissed your 1030 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 2: show and I was like, okay, why would I kill you? 1031 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: You know? 1032 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 2: And she's like, Charlottage wants it like now, and I 1033 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 2: was like, why would I kill you? Like girl, we 1034 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 2: broke the table. Sitting here in my garage, my neighbors 1035 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 2: are driving by, like what are you doing this time? 1036 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 2: You know? And so I was like, I really didn't 1037 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 2: have a functioning plan outside of building this concept. But 1038 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 2: luckily I was already working on it. So when sear 1039 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 2: I wanted to show, all I had to do was pressent. 1040 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 2: Everything was pretty much done at that point. 1041 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you how I did it. 1042 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 3: I just thought of you just said you love your 1043 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 3: broke man and passed. You need to get some of 1044 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 3: them niggas to come on here and make some of 1045 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 3: the meals that had you sleeping in the house with them. 1046 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,479 Speaker 4: They we need to know. 1047 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 1: What we never gone back to. 1048 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 3: You don't have to go back, but I'm I mean, 1049 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 3: I know what really kept you over there, because broke 1050 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 3: niggas fuck different. 1051 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:56,959 Speaker 4: They they broke niggas are going. Boy, that the good. 1052 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: The motherfucker. 1053 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 3: After I finished getting myself in this least right here, 1054 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 3: right on. 1055 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 1: To this least, they have sex for a different reason. 1056 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 4: You god damn right, boy, You. 1057 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 3: Legs and I get tired the way of broke nigga. 1058 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 3: Legs don't get tired when he needs somewhere to sleep 1059 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 3: at night, but that nigga will fuck his way out 1060 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,800 Speaker 3: of a jam gun, I'm telling. 1061 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:22,720 Speaker 1: You my homies. 1062 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 2: My homies used to clown me all the time to 1063 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:25,879 Speaker 2: be like, I don't get it. 1064 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 1: But then I'll tell you this. 1065 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 2: A lot of my successful homies would be like, oh, 1066 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 2: never date a girl like you. 1067 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 3: No, Well whatever, I used to be that nigga, and 1068 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 3: I know I can fuck my way out of a 1069 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 3: jam gun if I mean, I'm gonna have somewhere to stay. 1070 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 4: Thank God he didn't put me in that position. 1071 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 3: But should I have been the young nigga that I 1072 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,720 Speaker 3: was at a certain point trying to make this happen? 1073 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 4: Whoa boy? 1074 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 3: I'd have been in love in three states wherever I 1075 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 3: was getting booked at. 1076 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 4: My wife is there? 1077 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: Your whole area, man, is what it is. 1078 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 3: But you know, luckily, you know, God didn't see that 1079 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 3: as my trajectory. And the thing that I say now 1080 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 3: to anybody that may be watching that may be broke, 1081 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 3: coming from somebody who was and came through that, the 1082 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,399 Speaker 3: thing that keeps me humble, if you will. I hate 1083 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 3: that word because it's so overused now, but the thing 1084 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 3: that makes me recognize what blessings are and how you 1085 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 3: know progression work? The word to me The life that 1086 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 3: we live is all about perception. How you perceive things. 1087 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 3: You know, I'm looking at you now, You'll never see 1088 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 3: what I see when I look at you. I'll never 1089 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 3: see what you see when you look at me. We 1090 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 3: only have two eyes that we get in this lifetime. 1091 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 3: So how you see things will shape your life. And 1092 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 3: for me, what keeps me in pocket is knowing that 1093 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 3: today the problems that I have, the issues that I 1094 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 3: have at this point in my life life would have 1095 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 3: been the solution to every one of my problems now, 1096 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 3: would have solved every problem I had when I wasn't 1097 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 3: checking my mailbox. The things that I might oh, man, 1098 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 3: I goes for me. 1099 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 4: I have to. I have to. 1100 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 3: The things that are problems are issues that may aggravate 1101 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 3: me in my life now. For example, or I just 1102 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 3: had to pay six thousand dollars for flights for my 1103 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 3: team ten years ago, six thousand dollars. I might have 1104 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,800 Speaker 3: did something to you for six thousand dollars ten thousand, 1105 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 3: ten years ago. You know what I mean, I might 1106 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 3: have I might have did something to you for six g's. 1107 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 4: So it puts it in perspective. 1108 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 3: The things that God puts into your life is just 1109 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 3: a moment if you can work through it. Because, like 1110 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 3: I said, me having to worry about the things that 1111 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 3: I'm having to worry about now, I have to recognize 1112 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 3: that I'm blessed to be able to deal with things. 1113 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 3: Because money isn't anything but a cushion. It doesn't stop problems. 1114 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,919 Speaker 3: Instead of when you got money, now when you fall down, 1115 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,240 Speaker 3: you don't fall down and break your leg and strap 1116 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 3: your knee and your face scratched up. Now you just boom, 1117 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 3: you bounce back up. But that don't stop you from falling. 1118 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 3: They don't stop you from having to go through the 1119 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 3: problems in life. But it's all perspective, you know what 1120 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 3: I mean. If your perspective, if you still in the 1121 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,360 Speaker 3: perspective that you were in, no matter how much money 1122 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 3: you got, you'll always be broke. But if you have 1123 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 3: a grandiose perspective, no matter how much money you don't have, 1124 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 3: you're rich. 1125 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 4: It's just you ain't got the money yet. 1126 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:22,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that. 1127 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,799 Speaker 2: I've been learning recently too, and I've been saying this 1128 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 2: to myself a lot more. Is life doesn't happen to you, 1129 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 2: it happens for you. So like even with negatives, I'll 1130 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 2: be like yo. But now I live by the Serenity prayer, 1131 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,359 Speaker 2: which I don't memorize any prayers, but that's the only 1132 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,879 Speaker 2: prayer I say one hundred times a day. 1133 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 4: So what is that? 1134 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 2: It's God gramm me the serenity to accept the things 1135 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 2: I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, 1136 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 2: and the wisdom to recognize the difference. I say that, 1137 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 2: I promise, I promise you. It'll be two in the 1138 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 2: morning I wake up. I promise you. I'm saying that prayer. 1139 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 2: It'll be three in the morning. It could be walking 1140 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 2: the dog, it could be talking. It doesn't matter if 1141 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 2: I'm facing of a challenge or not. I'm having a 1142 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,839 Speaker 2: good time. That's the only prayer I say to myself 1143 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 2: at least hundred times. 1144 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1145 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 3: I'm working on a book right now called The bright 1146 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 3: Side of Bullshit, and it's basically that perspective, you know, 1147 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 3: always being able to find a silver lining no matter 1148 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,319 Speaker 3: what the situation is. You know, my mother passed away 1149 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,399 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one from COVID. I lost my mom, 1150 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 3: which was the most devastating hit that I could have 1151 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 3: took in life. At that point, you know, I thought 1152 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,399 Speaker 3: that I was immune to death because I had dealt 1153 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 3: with so much of it, but nothing prepared me for 1154 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 3: my mother. But in finding the bright side of bullshit, 1155 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 3: I realized that although it was tough for me to 1156 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 3: have to rub her back while she passed away and 1157 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 3: watch her leave here, what it did to me isn't 1158 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 3: anywhere in comparison to what it would have did to 1159 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 3: her had she had to do it for me. And 1160 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 3: there was a time in my life when that could 1161 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 3: have really been a realistic possibility for my mother from 1162 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 3: the way I was living and the things that I 1163 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 3: was into. So as tough as it is for me 1164 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 3: to have to say goodbye to my mother, that's the 1165 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,799 Speaker 3: way the circle of life goes, and her dream came 1166 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 3: true because she left here before children did and where 1167 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 3: it's supposed to go. So being able to find the 1168 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 3: bright side of bullshit is something that you know, I'm 1169 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 3: very stoic in my mentality and a lot of things, 1170 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,359 Speaker 3: you know, I mean, you know, I'm more faty. As 1171 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,760 Speaker 3: one of my favorite sayings, it's just love your fate, 1172 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,839 Speaker 3: because you know, I truly believe that God is real. 1173 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 3: I believe in the High Power. I'm not religious at all, 1174 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 3: but I'm very spiritual, and I believe that whatever your 1175 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 3: journey is has already been planned out for you. You just 1176 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 3: got to walk it. So there's nothing that you can 1177 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 3: do to change it. The only thing that you can 1178 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 3: do is have a perspective that is strong enough for 1179 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 3: you to understand that you can't change it and embrace 1180 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 3: whatever comes with it. And because one day it's going 1181 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 3: to be your last day on this planet with everybody. 1182 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 4: That you love. 1183 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 3: So if that's the case, what do you want to 1184 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,799 Speaker 3: be remembered by? Do you want to be remembered by 1185 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 3: all the things that you complained about, all the things 1186 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:44,959 Speaker 3: you help people not complain about. 1187 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 1: Damn you crying? 1188 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 4: Did I make a cry? 1189 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 1: Look at Joe? 1190 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 4: Come have some to make you smile? 1191 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 3: You got seasoning on it now, I mean it got 1192 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 3: season on it, But no, you know this is this 1193 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 3: is you know. I have to have these types of 1194 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 3: perspectives because you know, people look at your life and 1195 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,799 Speaker 3: then they have this vantaged point that everything is grandiose 1196 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 3: once you get some money. Now, I don't want to 1197 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 3: make it seem like getting some money is a bad thing, 1198 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 3: because it's a blessing. 1199 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 4: We all know, all of us. You know, I'm looking 1200 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 4: over at Joe. 1201 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 3: We don't all came in like who we need a 1202 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 3: little five hundred, you know what I mean? But you know, 1203 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 3: so it's a blessing to not have to have those problems. 1204 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 3: But there's no such thing as not having problems, you 1205 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 3: know what I mean. Problems are going to come, you 1206 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like your problems are your problems. 1207 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 3: But when your problems turn into issues, that's when you 1208 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 3: got a problem. And I mean like you can stop 1209 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 3: yourself from getting to the extreme. 1210 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. Like I. 1211 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 3: Watch a lot of affirmations on the daily and one 1212 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 3: of the things that to do named doctor Joe Esponanza 1213 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 3: that I listen to a lot, and he says, how 1214 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,360 Speaker 3: many possibilities. 1215 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 4: Are in the unknown? Are they in the unknown? How many? 1216 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 4: It's infinite? 1217 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, So why do we immediately go to the most 1218 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 3: fucked up one and let that drive us? 1219 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:09,279 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 1220 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,399 Speaker 3: You have the ability to control your mind. Like that's 1221 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 3: something that I truly believe in. Like, the most consistent 1222 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 3: thing that will happen to you in your life is 1223 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 3: your brain. 1224 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 4: On talking side, your brain. 1225 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 3: While we're having this conversation right now, our brains is 1226 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 3: talking inside our brain. So that's what you got to navigate. 1227 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 3: When the lights turn off and it's just you and 1228 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,719 Speaker 3: that mind of yours, that's your life. Yeah, so learn 1229 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 3: how to navigate and manage that. And you know, the 1230 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 3: better you're able to do that, the better you'll be 1231 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 3: able to deal with all of the external things that 1232 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,280 Speaker 3: come that you can't control. 1233 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1234 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,239 Speaker 2: I did shout out to Sholin, but I did this 1235 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 2: landmark thing, and one of the things that I learned 1236 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,880 Speaker 2: I walked away with is like, it's really the story 1237 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,920 Speaker 2: we tell ourselves that matter. Like everything outside, like like 1238 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 2: you said, with perspective is just like, well, what is 1239 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 2: the story I'm telling myself in here? What is this 1240 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 2: invisible story I'm telling myself that may or may not 1241 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 2: be true. But controlling the mind it's very very, very 1242 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 2: very difficult. That's why I hints I'm in the serenity 1243 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:05,760 Speaker 2: prayer stage of my life. 1244 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,879 Speaker 3: But there's no such thing as a bad thought. There's 1245 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 3: only such thing as bad actions and speaking negativity. I 1246 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 3: think all types of wild shit all day. I mean, 1247 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 3: you think about some of the shit that popping your 1248 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 3: mind throughout there, like, man, fucked up ass thought, I 1249 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 3: got let me tell you what. But it's not until 1250 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 3: you let it drive your actions and your mentality that 1251 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 3: it becomes negative. There's no such thing as a negative thought. 1252 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 3: There's negative action, and if you speak negativity, then you 1253 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,880 Speaker 3: know that's action. Speaking is an action. So until you 1254 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 3: speak some negative shit, it's no such thing as a 1255 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 3: negative thought in my mind. 1256 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 2: Well, when I first became Christian, I'm raised Jewish, but 1257 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 2: I became Christian at like thirty, I will say, you know, 1258 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,400 Speaker 2: when you're born again, you're like religiously like oh snap, 1259 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:51,760 Speaker 2: you know, trying to control everything. 1260 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,839 Speaker 1: I was like, yo, my brain is really messed up. 1261 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, my thoughts are terrible. I respect the religion. The religion, boy, 1262 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 3: you are a gangster man. That is a gangster perspective 1263 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,839 Speaker 3: to have. You know what I mean, No matter which 1264 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 3: one you choose, I respect, I respect. I saw a 1265 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 3: post on Instagram that said what is the most normalized addiction? 1266 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 3: And I said, it's religion Because when you think about it, 1267 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 3: religion has normalized behavior in the name of a higher 1268 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,400 Speaker 3: power that nobody has ever talked to. But the books 1269 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,360 Speaker 3: that are written, the texts that are written, are interpreted 1270 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 3: by the same people that we look at and walking 1271 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,400 Speaker 3: around every single day, So you think about human error 1272 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 3: and just power how that works, you know what I mean? 1273 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,879 Speaker 3: Like a lot of that those texts have been tampered with, 1274 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,839 Speaker 3: if you will, so people utilizing that as a way 1275 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,279 Speaker 3: to judge other people for where you're going to go. 1276 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,359 Speaker 3: I never understood how somebody can be like you going 1277 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 3: to hell? Like when the last time you went? How 1278 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 3: you know? 1279 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:56,839 Speaker 4: How you know when somebody's going? 1280 00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,320 Speaker 3: So I think it's you know, and I just spective, 1281 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,280 Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm not religious, but I respect all religions. 1282 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 3: I've read the Torah, I've read the Bible, I've read. 1283 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 1: The Koran, You've read all of them. 1284 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:08,719 Speaker 4: I'm not in. 1285 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 3: Totality, but I've read them, you know what I mean. 1286 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,840 Speaker 3: And one of the things that is consistent is God. 1287 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,840 Speaker 3: There's one God and everybody is trying to get to 1288 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,880 Speaker 3: that one place. So for me, I always look at 1289 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,799 Speaker 3: it as religion as the temp agency. God is the 1290 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,360 Speaker 3: Fortune five hundred company, and people try to get you 1291 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 3: to convert, and you know. 1292 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 4: Feel the way that they feel. 1293 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 3: But my thing is, if I'm such a viable candidate, 1294 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 3: why can't I walk my application directly to the Fortune 1295 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 3: five hundred company. What's the difference between a pastor and me? 1296 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 3: Because God said in all of the text that we 1297 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:43,919 Speaker 3: are creating in his image, So I should be able 1298 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 3: to have the same type of direct contact with this person, 1299 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,879 Speaker 3: entity or thing that we can't see as the man 1300 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 3: who you trust to lead you into eternity is. So 1301 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,520 Speaker 3: you know that's my personal perspective. But you know I 1302 00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,319 Speaker 3: respect all religions enough to know that. You know, it's 1303 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 3: tough when you switch. So salute to you because that 1304 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 3: was a gangst the move you made. 1305 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:06,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm telling you all the Jews in my family 1306 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,400 Speaker 2: was best. Oh yeah, and it was weird because they 1307 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,840 Speaker 2: were like, yo, Dad, you married a Jamaican. We go 1308 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,400 Speaker 2: you eating pork over there? 1309 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 1: Like what are we even arguing about? Since when does 1310 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 1: Judaism even matter? Until I make a switch? 1311 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,760 Speaker 3: Because you mean, Jesus as you stopped playing with us 1312 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 3: over here, it's a different game, man, you know what 1313 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 3: I mean? 1314 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 4: But I respect. Has that been beneficial to you to switch? 1315 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 1: Uh? 1316 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1317 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 1: No, I mean I got to see a lot of 1318 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 1: the hypocrisies in both. 1319 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 2: But I think I used to think that everyone was 1320 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 2: born with a moral compass. More recently, I'm realizing that 1321 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 2: not everyone is born with a moral compass. 1322 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 1: But I thought we were all born with. 1323 00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 4: A moral compass. 1324 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 1: You know, I mean, meet a couple broke niggas, you 1325 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 1: realize that not everyone happening. 1326 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,440 Speaker 3: These broke niggas have ruined You got you in here 1327 00:57:54,440 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 3: eating ravioli and canned salmon and shit, you stuck broke guys. 1328 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,080 Speaker 4: Listen, take this as a as a lessons. 1329 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 3: As much as she don't want to fuck with broke 1330 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 3: dudes no more, she still got broke dude taste buds. 1331 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,240 Speaker 4: Because if you funk right now. 1332 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 3: You'll never be able to get that taste out. 1333 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:12,280 Speaker 4: Of her mouth. 1334 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 3: That's literally gonna leave it at that. 1335 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 1: Man, I hope they edited this all this. 1336 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're gonna edit it out. But it's okay. It's love. 1337 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 4: You know. 1338 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 3: I don't want none of them that's watching this be like, yeah, 1339 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 3: I knew I had a shot back at her. All 1340 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 3: I gotta do is make that grilled cheese with the 1341 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 3: bacon on top of be right. 1342 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 1: Back over to the now. I'm one of those women. 1343 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,200 Speaker 2: I'm like the little clips you see online where the 1344 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 2: woman's like if a dude isn't making that much I'm like, yo, 1345 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,640 Speaker 2: if you ain't even matching what I got and more, 1346 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 2: we're not doing it. 1347 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 1: I mean all the way down to assets. 1348 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 3: Really yep, No, I mean I mean, ain't nothing wrong 1349 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,880 Speaker 3: with it now? Just at least you have served your 1350 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 3: duty to the community. 1351 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:50,280 Speaker 4: Man. 1352 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,439 Speaker 3: You got me here cooking ravioli. You have done your 1353 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 3: due diligence, You have done your bif you have given 1354 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 3: I hope that one of them. I hope at least, 1355 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 3: what do you have one success story? They got to 1356 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,480 Speaker 3: be one of all of the broke niggas that you 1357 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 3: dealt with. They got to be one that made it, 1358 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,040 Speaker 3: that made it, that made it, that made it to 1359 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 3: be successful. 1360 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 4: Isn't that you? None? 1361 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,360 Speaker 1: Let me tell you it's so sad because. 1362 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, none. 1363 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:20,400 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, damn your track record is hard sad. 1364 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 2: Because I've mentored so many people in my life. But yeah, 1365 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1366 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,320 Speaker 3: It's a nigga with a job at UPS supervisor right now, Like, hey, 1367 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 3: I digress, you got me fucked up. 1368 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:32,320 Speaker 2: Man. 1369 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 3: I make seventy six thousand dollars a year now. Now, 1370 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 3: I was making your money when I was fucking with you. 1371 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 3: So hey, man, if you send a letter into eating 1372 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:46,120 Speaker 3: my broke fellas, not anonymous letter. Send an anonymous letter 1373 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,760 Speaker 3: in and uh, let. 1374 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,280 Speaker 2: It know that you're it's so hard to date me 1375 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 2: at this point it is impossible. 1376 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,040 Speaker 4: What makes it hard to date you? 1377 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 1: That's because I do. 1378 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 2: I do full reference. Now I need numbers to exits, 1379 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,320 Speaker 2: the same way you go to job, you have your references. 1380 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be like, look, give me the number, steel Excess. 1381 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,160 Speaker 2: Let's have a conversation because I give up my number. Smikes, 1382 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 2: they gonna say, Yo, my only regret was sucking up. 1383 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 1: My only regret. 1384 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 3: My only regret is not making sure that she didn't 1385 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 3: get to go around some niggas that made her realize 1386 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,760 Speaker 3: she had regrets that I should have kept her in 1387 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,200 Speaker 3: the house eating ravioli and grilled cheese, and she'd have 1388 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:29,560 Speaker 3: never knew it was nothing. 1389 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 4: Better of them. 1390 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:34,920 Speaker 2: If you talk to some of them, be like, I 1391 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 2: know I should try to get you pregnant, because you 1392 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 2: know that's every guy's go to trap. 1393 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 1: Trap. Really yeah, I don't trust none of y'all. 1394 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 3: Man, that's crazy. I don't know where you trying to 1395 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 3: trap you. Where you was dating you? You must have 1396 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 3: been dating and death jam Vendetta that was great. 1397 01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 1: God, it's interesting to me. 1398 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 3: It's very interesting to me to hear that, because I 1399 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 3: know it's true. 1400 01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 1: They try to trap you. 1401 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:04,120 Speaker 2: They need roofs, they need credits, they need You got 1402 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,160 Speaker 2: to think if you come up on somebody, you you know, 1403 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 2: and you broke. 1404 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,560 Speaker 4: But that's but that's ignorance. And in mind you. 1405 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 3: I speak from the perspective of I always say it's 1406 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 3: our fault. 1407 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong. I'm not blaming the woman. It's 1408 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:16,600 Speaker 4: always the man's fault. 1409 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm want to because they be perpetrating. 1410 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:23,200 Speaker 3: But the reality is it's your fault. Though it's your fault, 1411 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,200 Speaker 3: it's your fault as a woman. And I'm gonna tell you, 1412 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 3: I don't know how how real we can get on 1413 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 3: eating while broke. But these are the conversations you should 1414 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:31,960 Speaker 3: have been having with them, niggas. Uh. 1415 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 4: Here's the thing. 1416 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 3: That I that I say, why I say it's your 1417 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,440 Speaker 3: fault is in this Please? This is this is you know, 1418 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 3: this is you know, adult content, So you know what 1419 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 3: I mean. This is the reality. You are a woman, 1420 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,880 Speaker 3: which means you have the prize, which is I agree 1421 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 3: with all this. The pussy pussy is valuable. It's one 1422 01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,240 Speaker 3: of the three things. They can be sold any where 1423 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:06,240 Speaker 3: on earth. Guns, gold, and vagina will sell anywhere air 1424 01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:10,080 Speaker 3: is being breathed. There has never been a man anywhere 1425 01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 3: that's been down to his last dollar and said, you 1426 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 3: know what about to start selling some dick that's never happened. 1427 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:19,200 Speaker 4: That's never happened. 1428 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,000 Speaker 3: So with that being said, if you have the asset 1429 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:27,520 Speaker 3: that is valuable, you are in control of what you 1430 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,960 Speaker 3: allow to be the key that opens the lot. 1431 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 1: I agree with you. 1432 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,920 Speaker 3: So therefore, if you continue to allow yourself to be 1433 01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:38,480 Speaker 3: tricked by baller costumes, then that is what the heck 1434 01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:40,160 Speaker 3: baller costumes. 1435 01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,520 Speaker 4: You don't know what a baller costume is. They wear 1436 01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:43,400 Speaker 4: them all year round. 1437 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:48,600 Speaker 3: You see this, all of this, all of this, it 1438 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:52,560 Speaker 3: came from hard work. But I can give this the 1439 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 3: same watch, the same ring, the same bracelet to somebody 1440 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,800 Speaker 3: who has nothing, and they'll be able to get you 1441 01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 3: because they have this. And you assume that, because they're 1442 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,640 Speaker 3: wearing this, that they are all of the things that 1443 01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,520 Speaker 3: comes with the shininess. And that's your fault because you 1444 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 3: don't ask the right questions. 1445 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:12,280 Speaker 4: What you say you do. 1446 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,480 Speaker 3: Now, I commend you, because that's what you're supposed to do, 1447 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,240 Speaker 3: and I say the same thing the men. We gotta 1448 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,840 Speaker 3: do better because y'all got a whole list that you 1449 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,640 Speaker 3: just said, you checking references every man out here. 1450 01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 4: You know what's on our list, pussy, that's it. 1451 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 3: We ain't updated our list since the beginning of the time. 1452 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,400 Speaker 3: That's all we have on our list. 1453 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 4: That's it. 1454 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,520 Speaker 3: So therefore we got to ask better questions too. I 1455 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 3: say that the men all the time. You got to 1456 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,280 Speaker 3: treat your dick like you treat your Social Security number. 1457 01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:42,920 Speaker 3: If a woman walks up and asks you for your 1458 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 3: social you're gonna be like, what type of question is 1459 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:45,080 Speaker 3: that man? 1460 01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:45,720 Speaker 4: Fuck out it? 1461 01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,480 Speaker 3: She walk up and ask you for some dick? You 1462 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 3: you serious? 1463 01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,320 Speaker 4: You're real? Give me, give me twenty minutes, let me 1464 01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:54,000 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. 1465 01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,120 Speaker 3: And we don't even we don't even ask the type 1466 01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,000 Speaker 3: of questions that we should ask as men that would 1467 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,720 Speaker 3: place value in who we are. 1468 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,040 Speaker 2: I'm curious, So what kind of questions now that we're here. 1469 01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 2: I know we're going over guys, but that's. 1470 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 4: All good, you know. 1471 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 3: I mean, you want to know what type of questions 1472 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,520 Speaker 3: that a man should ask? What is your gind of 1473 01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 3: collegist name? 1474 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good one. Okay. 1475 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,000 Speaker 3: If she can't answer that like it's on the back 1476 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,800 Speaker 3: of her driver's license, then that means she probably don't 1477 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,280 Speaker 3: have no health insurance. So you mean to tell me, ma'am, 1478 01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,400 Speaker 3: I'm supposed to be working hard for some vagina you 1479 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 3: ain't even had inspected. 1480 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,920 Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, that's. 1481 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,120 Speaker 4: What's the last book that you read from cover to cover? 1482 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,400 Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good one. That's a better one than 1483 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:35,120 Speaker 1: the Gin of Colleges. 1484 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,200 Speaker 3: But I mean no, it's not because most women can't 1485 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:38,960 Speaker 3: name their gno collegest because they don't have one. 1486 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,000 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, and then what's the next question? 1487 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:43,160 Speaker 4: Oh, there's plenty of them. 1488 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 3: Let me think of a good one that a man 1489 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:48,880 Speaker 3: should ask a woman. I don't want to get too 1490 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 3: in depth on the cooking while brother. 1491 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:51,360 Speaker 1: How does that? 1492 01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,040 Speaker 2: How does that impact a man? Because usually it's men 1493 01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:55,840 Speaker 2: don't get really played like that? 1494 01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:57,520 Speaker 4: What you mean played like? 1495 01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:01,840 Speaker 2: Because you're like, why would a man benefit from that 1496 01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,200 Speaker 2: if all he seeks is viagina? 1497 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,800 Speaker 3: Well, that's a man that's asking those questions, not a 1498 01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,760 Speaker 3: man who only seeks vagina. Because a man who only 1499 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,160 Speaker 3: seeks vagina is not even asking you nothing he just 1500 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:14,400 Speaker 3: acting like he want to hear what. 1501 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 1: You're saying and then so he could clone and be 1502 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:18,160 Speaker 1: whatever you want him to be. 1503 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,120 Speaker 3: So a man that's asking certain questions in mind, you 1504 01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 3: I have a daughter who I'm raising, so I have 1505 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,720 Speaker 3: to give her the cheeks. Like I hear women complain 1506 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,760 Speaker 3: all the time about broke niggas and shit that niggas do, 1507 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,480 Speaker 3: and I'd be like, well, what questions are you asking 1508 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,640 Speaker 3: these niggas? Because it's very easy to find out if 1509 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,280 Speaker 3: a man is a liar. You just got to be 1510 01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,520 Speaker 3: out of your comfort zone to be able to find 1511 01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 3: out quicker than you have found out already. 1512 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,160 Speaker 4: Stop asking the niggas. So what are your goals in 1513 01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,920 Speaker 4: five years? And what are your plans for the future? 1514 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,080 Speaker 4: And what is what is? What is all that funk? 1515 01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,120 Speaker 4: All that man? How many times a week do you 1516 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:55,120 Speaker 4: beat your dick? Sir? 1517 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,680 Speaker 3: You see how the whole room stop. Now if you 1518 01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,440 Speaker 3: ask a man that and he like, well, what you 1519 01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,680 Speaker 3: mean why you ask me that? But that's a nigga 1520 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,000 Speaker 3: who's thinking about what he's going to tell you. A 1521 01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 3: man who's being forthcoming and truthful will say, wells it 1522 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:15,960 Speaker 3: as much as I can. Now, you know, you're dealing 1523 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,360 Speaker 3: with somebody who at least has the capacity to be 1524 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,240 Speaker 3: able to have a direct conversation without filtering whatever it 1525 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,040 Speaker 3: is he's going to say to you. Also another question, 1526 01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:25,160 Speaker 3: what's your relationship like. 1527 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:26,320 Speaker 4: With your mother? Yeah? 1528 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,000 Speaker 1: I mean, we could you go on that all day. 1529 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,240 Speaker 1: But there's some yeah, you. 1530 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:31,680 Speaker 4: Know what I mean. 1531 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,000 Speaker 3: And another one you can ask, man, if I had 1532 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,040 Speaker 3: if we were in a relationship with each other and 1533 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,360 Speaker 3: I had a contract that said you owe me every 1534 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,240 Speaker 3: dime you make from the moment you cheat on me 1535 01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:41,920 Speaker 3: to the rest of your life, would you sign it? 1536 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:44,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1537 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,400 Speaker 2: Right there, that should be the question always said as 1538 01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:47,240 Speaker 2: before they get buried. 1539 01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:47,640 Speaker 4: And if a. 1540 01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,320 Speaker 3: Niggas say yeah, I mean I never do that, ask 1541 01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:51,320 Speaker 3: you to get up and leave. 1542 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,280 Speaker 4: Oh get up, get up and leave. 1543 01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,240 Speaker 3: Take it from me that if a niggas say he 1544 01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,320 Speaker 3: has signed that contract, that nigga is a serial killer, 1545 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:00,760 Speaker 3: get up and least. 1546 01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:01,880 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 1547 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,480 Speaker 4: No man in his right mind whatever agree to them terms. 1548 01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,360 Speaker 2: This is why I fall for the BS because I 1549 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,160 Speaker 2: would have if he would have said what if, I 1550 01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:10,600 Speaker 2: would have. 1551 01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,120 Speaker 4: Been like, Oh, that's how you end. 1552 01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:18,680 Speaker 3: That's how sardines sitting the Indian style that is crazy apartment. 1553 01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:23,120 Speaker 1: That's that was a perfect example. 1554 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:29,240 Speaker 2: I can't believe I would have for the sign answer 1555 01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,480 Speaker 2: the question correctly. There you okay, thank you for the lesson. 1556 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,240 Speaker 2: Where can everybody keep up with Chico? 1557 01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 3: Keep up with me on Instagram at Chico Bean, Facebook 1558 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 3: at Chico Bean. Followed the eighty five South show and 1559 01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,280 Speaker 3: all of the things that our company and and our 1560 01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,160 Speaker 3: team is in telling we have a conglomerate with a 1561 01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,800 Speaker 3: building over here. Check us out on the Black Effect 1562 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:55,360 Speaker 3: podcast Network. Salut to Charlamagne, Salute to Dolly. You know, 1563 01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,000 Speaker 3: just you know, keeping out. Were on tour right now. 1564 01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,640 Speaker 3: We the ones we're going right after that toward ends. 1565 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,720 Speaker 3: We starting the eighty five South back up, so you know, 1566 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:05,960 Speaker 3: we got a lot of beautiful things. We got comment 1567 01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,680 Speaker 3: What about the book, Oh that's coming. I'm working on 1568 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,800 Speaker 3: it now. So hopefully I'm thinking either by the end 1569 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,400 Speaker 3: of the year or the top of next year, which 1570 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,240 Speaker 3: be able to do it in Charlemagne already said he 1571 01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:16,600 Speaker 3: was going to look out for me and put me 1572 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,240 Speaker 3: in place with some people that you. 1573 01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,760 Speaker 1: Know can yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. 1574 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,639 Speaker 3: So I've already done the due diligence, if you will, 1575 01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,400 Speaker 3: So I'm looking forward to, you know, getting that out 1576 01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,240 Speaker 3: to the people so they can you know, have this 1577 01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,400 Speaker 3: type of dialogue that we're having amongst each other teachers. 1578 01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:33,600 Speaker 1: And then my last question, what's the last book you 1579 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:34,800 Speaker 1: read from cover to back? 1580 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,080 Speaker 3: What's the last book I read from cover to back? 1581 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,200 Speaker 3: The last book I read? I just reread a book 1582 01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,639 Speaker 3: that changed my life, Conversations with God by Neil Donald Walsh. 1583 01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,760 Speaker 3: I just went through a situation that was very, very 1584 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:49,439 Speaker 3: very trying on me personally, and I had to whenever 1585 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,920 Speaker 3: I get to those points where I feel myself about 1586 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,360 Speaker 3: to revert to a mentality that I feel like I 1587 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,200 Speaker 3: have surpassed, I always go back and read that book 1588 01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:58,519 Speaker 3: because that book saved my life. 1589 01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,080 Speaker 2: I've heard people mention that book. I actually have it 1590 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:02,599 Speaker 2: on a list of reading. 1591 01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,639 Speaker 4: Conversations with God by Neil Donald Walsh. 1592 01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,080 Speaker 1: That is, that's crazy, because that book is on my list. 1593 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,400 Speaker 3: That book saved my life. If it wasn't for that book, 1594 01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,760 Speaker 3: my old uncle J. God bless you Uncle J. If 1595 01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,800 Speaker 3: you see this, when my uncle got murdered, my uncle 1596 01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,120 Speaker 3: that I told you about, I was that probably would 1597 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:19,200 Speaker 3: say that was the darkest. 1598 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,439 Speaker 4: Week of my life. Like that week after he was murdered. 1599 01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,680 Speaker 3: I was, you know, it was very dark time for me, 1600 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,320 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And a lot of the 1601 01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,479 Speaker 3: actions and things that I did during that time I'm 1602 01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:32,800 Speaker 3: still rectifying now. And I was sitting outside and you know, 1603 01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,679 Speaker 3: and the worst way that you can probably be out 1604 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,360 Speaker 3: in public, if you you know, when I think back 1605 01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,800 Speaker 3: on it, and he came outside, he saw me. This 1606 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:42,519 Speaker 3: is somebody I have a high level of respect for, 1607 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,479 Speaker 3: one of my big homies. And he took what I 1608 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,800 Speaker 3: had from me away from me. When the house came 1609 01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:50,040 Speaker 3: back out with the book and told me to go 1610 01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:54,040 Speaker 3: in the house and start reading. And under those circumstances, 1611 01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:55,599 Speaker 3: normally i'd have been like, man, the fuck out of here, 1612 01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,680 Speaker 3: and I'm out here, but something told me to go 1613 01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:58,599 Speaker 3: in the house and start reading. 1614 01:09:58,600 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 4: And when I did, it save my life. 1615 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna check it out, please, I will. Yeah, 1616 01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:03,839 Speaker 1: I definitely. 1617 01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 2: I had it on my list, so it's crazy that 1618 01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,400 Speaker 2: you brought it up, So yeah, I'll check it out. 1619 01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,439 Speaker 3: Another good one is The Way of the Superior Man. 1620 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:11,479 Speaker 3: You should read that. 1621 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:13,240 Speaker 1: I heard about that, but yeah, you should read the 1622 01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 1: women should read it. 1623 01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:15,559 Speaker 4: Yes, women should read. 1624 01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,400 Speaker 3: That's the thing I think men should read the books 1625 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,519 Speaker 3: that women read, and women should read the books that 1626 01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,840 Speaker 3: men read. In regards to not necessarily that men or 1627 01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:28,040 Speaker 3: women read, but that are catered towards men, women should 1628 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,599 Speaker 3: read those books, and the books that are catered towards women. 1629 01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,400 Speaker 3: Men should read those books because it gives you insight 1630 01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,320 Speaker 3: into the perspective that you probably wouldn't get in the 1631 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,160 Speaker 3: general dialogue with the opposite sex. 1632 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,120 Speaker 2: Okay, you dropping gems. Thank you so much for your time. 1633 01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,519 Speaker 2: I really appreciate it, no problem. Thanks for opening up 1634 01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,960 Speaker 2: the eighty five South home this last episode. 1635 01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,960 Speaker 3: Everyone, Well, no I took that one bike out that Ravioli. 1636 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:57,280 Speaker 3: Now my dudo gonna sound like a Russian nigga flugok 1637 01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:01,639 Speaker 3: a dish, and thanks for taking it for se look 1638 01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:05,559 Speaker 3: from Bro