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Speaker 2: Yeah, it got squirrely late, as it does for the Cardinals,

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Speaker 2: Obviously both of them have a long way to go

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Speaker 4: And that's what you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's three plays seventy nine yards. You don't

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Speaker 3: And the Cardinals probably went to this game realizing, look,

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Speaker 2: There was nothing that they had to believe that their

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Speaker 4: They weren't.

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Speaker 3: I think that we discount the Cardinals and especially their defense,

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Speaker 6: They don't know where to go, they don't know what

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Speaker 4: It was just insane.

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Speaker 2: If you even just forget the other close losses the

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Speaker 3: To close the circle on the whole conversation at quarterback.

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Speaker 3: This is why Jacoby Brissett is going to continue to

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Speaker 4: That's fine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have if you're gonna look good, you're gonna

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Speaker 4: Just shows how under the radar they are. All for

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Speaker 6: No way, that's incredible.

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Speaker 2: I was actually at a Cowboys Cardinals Monday Night football

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Speaker 2: saying hey, come join us.

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Speaker 4: But we appreciate everyone.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk a little trade deadline. We had a trade today.

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Speaker 2: Should we lead with that trade? It's it's a minor

440
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Speaker 2: trade today, but it does matter. Let's actually do our

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Speaker 2: segment that it's time for who Delivered? Presented by Uber

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Speaker 2: Eats and you know who delivered, Nick Shook.

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Speaker 4: Howie freaking Roseman.

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Speaker 2: When I wake up the day before the trade deadline,

445
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Speaker 2: here's what I want at six in the morning, because

446
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Speaker 2: I'm waking up early. I want Jalen Phillips to the

447
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Speaker 2: Eagles for a third round pick before I even get

448
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Speaker 2: my coffee. Great trade by the Eagles. Not only did

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Speaker 2: they get Jalen Phillips, a good young pass rusher, for

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Speaker 2: a third round pick, but the Miami Dolphins are going

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Speaker 2: to pay a good amount of the remaining salary he

452
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Speaker 2: has or just six million dollars, so that they could

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Speaker 2: get that third round pick. What do you think about

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Speaker 2: what the Eagles did with that trade for Jalen Phillips.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think that one of the topics that

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Speaker 3: has flown under the radar with the Eagles this season. Yes,

457
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Speaker 3: you know, they're doing well overall, and we focus so

458
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Speaker 3: much on the drama with the passing game and everything else.

459
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Speaker 3: But I think it's been the changes on defense, the

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Speaker 3: departures that they had in the offseason, and the relative

461
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Speaker 3: no name guys that we've expected to you know, fill in,

462
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Speaker 3: and I think they've started to come together in recent weeks.

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Speaker 3: You know, Jalox Hunt makes a play here and there,

464
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Speaker 3: Moro Ojoma makes a play here and there, but ultimately

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Speaker 3: it lacks the splash, the pizazz, the Josh Sweats, the

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Speaker 3: Hassan Reddicks of years past. We're not going to go

467
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Speaker 3: with the Brice off because that didn't work, But ultimately,

468
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Speaker 3: like they needed a guy like this, they needed a

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Speaker 3: difference maker. If I had to pick a team that

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Speaker 3: was in the market for an edge rusher, it was

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Speaker 3: probably them because they lack that that type of splash

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Speaker 3: player and they get it now with Jalen Phillips. So

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Speaker 3: I think it's a fantastic move for them. It really

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Speaker 3: fills out their front seven a lot better. As long

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Speaker 3: as he can stay healthy. That's always been the big

476
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Speaker 3: question mark with him, especially over the last two years,

477
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Speaker 3: is he's that injury after injury, but it felt like,

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Speaker 3: we know how the Dolphins season is going, kind of

479
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Speaker 3: a wasted season for him, especially coming back from an

480
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Speaker 3: injury last year. This is the perfect pairing. This gives

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Speaker 3: him an opportunity to pursue success on the field with

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Speaker 3: a new team. It gives the Eagles another force on

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Speaker 3: the edge that they desperately needed. And it also the

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Speaker 3: Dolphins get a little bit back, you know, after firing

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Speaker 3: Chris Screer, that this is one of those big moves

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Speaker 3: that they thought might come and it comes for them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it did.

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Speaker 2: And we'll get into what that could mean for the

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Speaker 2: rest of the Dolphins season in a second. But I

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Speaker 2: do want to just to stick with Howard Roseman. You know,

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Speaker 2: think about what they've done in aggregate so over the

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Speaker 2: last week. They've traded for Michael Carter, it's like a

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Speaker 2: serviceable cornerback from the Jets. They traded for a gyre

494
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Speaker 2: Alexander a bit of a dart throw to see if

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Speaker 2: he can help about their team. And heck, I guess

496
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Speaker 2: he's gonna make their team. But like, is he gonna

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Speaker 2: be on the field, and if so, like as Zadori

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Speaker 2: Jackson or Kiey Ringo getting traded over the next twenty

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Speaker 2: four hours.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know about getting traded, but they

501
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Speaker 3: neither of them have proven that they deserve a place

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Speaker 3: in the field.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there's enough spots on the roster.

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Speaker 2: I guess they could go to the practice squad if

505
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Speaker 2: no one else picks them up. But in aggregate, look,

506
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Speaker 2: they are aggressively trying to improve two positions. Their pass

507
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Speaker 2: rush just has not been the same, but they're adding

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Speaker 2: Brandon Graham, don't forget two. And Jalen Phillips hasn't been

509
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Speaker 2: great this year, but his pressure rate is actually quite high.

510
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Speaker 2: Like he doesn't look as good as he looked pre surgeries,

511
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Speaker 2: but he's a young player on his fifth year option

512
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Speaker 2: coming off in ACL and then an Achilles, and I

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Speaker 2: think it could be more than a rental. I could

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Speaker 2: see them potentially working out a deal with Jalen Phillips

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Speaker 2: where he gets a two year contract at the end

516
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Speaker 2: of this deal, or he's in the building and he

517
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Speaker 2: likes what they're doing and they give him a good

518
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Speaker 2: one year contract just to push the decision out a

519
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Speaker 2: little bit, more like a bet on yourself one for

520
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Speaker 2: seventeen type of deal and they'll have that information and

521
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Speaker 2: if he does leave and they want to play the

522
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Speaker 2: compensatory pick game and that'll be up to them and

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Speaker 2: their signings and everything like, like, that's.

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Speaker 4: A good move too.

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Speaker 2: So I just think it's a position of real weakness

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Speaker 2: for them on the edge. You mentioned, they just haven't

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Speaker 2: been the same. And yeah, appreciate bona artists here who

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Speaker 2: said like and subscribe, appreciate you you. Yeah, we don't

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Speaker 2: ask to do that. We got a lot of people

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Speaker 2: watching now. If you're watching, yeah, give us give.

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Speaker 4: Us the like, give us the subscribe. We appreciate you. Man.

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Speaker 2: This this Dolphin season though, Nick, when they fired Chris Greer,

533
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Speaker 2: we haven't really talked about this on the podcast. It

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Speaker 2: made me think, Okay, maybe Chris Grear didn't want to

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Speaker 2: make the types of moves that the ownership wanted to

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Speaker 2: make before the trade deadline, and now they're going to

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Speaker 2: make those moves with interim GM Champ Bailey.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think that was what was telegraphed to most of us,

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Speaker 3: because we had heard prior that they had received calls

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Speaker 3: and had turned down calls on a number of players,

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Speaker 3: and Phillips was one of them. I also consider the

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Speaker 3: tenure of Chris career. He had been in that position

544
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Speaker 3: for nearly a decade. He took that job in twenty sixteen.

545
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Speaker 3: He hired Adam Gase, he hired Brian Flores, he hired

546
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Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel. Of course, he's going to feel an attachment

547
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Speaker 3: to the roster that was there because he constructed it

548
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Speaker 3: and probably believed that it could still produce a winner.

549
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Speaker 3: So he's going to have a tough time parting with anybody.

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Speaker 3: And it also felt like the right time to make

551
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Speaker 3: a change for a team that is headed nowhere as

552
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Speaker 3: it currently stands. What it did, in my mind was

553
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Speaker 3: open the phone lines back up. Jalen, will you're interested

554
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Speaker 3: make a call? I even thought about, you know who's

555
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Speaker 3: Jerry Jones got a trade you know in the bag

556
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Speaker 3: for I was like a shot in the dark. Bradley

557
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Speaker 3: Chubb like, I don't know, like just continue to go

558
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Speaker 3: down the list of dolphins that are out there, right,

559
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Speaker 3: so you know, you go with Phillips as well, he's

560
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Speaker 3: on the move. It seems like the right thing for

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Speaker 3: this franchise at this time, as unfortunate as a fire

562
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Speaker 3: sale can be.

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Speaker 6: If you're a fan of that team. It feels like

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Speaker 6: that's what the Dolphins probably need to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we got a question, where's the Breese Hall

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Speaker 2: or Jalen Wattle trade? Look, the majority of trades happen

567
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Speaker 2: in the last thirty hours or so before the trade deadline.

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Speaker 2: Now people get so excited about it. It ends up

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Speaker 2: being eight or nine or ten trades total. We've already

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Speaker 2: had a lot of trades just in this season leading

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Speaker 2: up to it that I'm not counting that towards the total,

572
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Speaker 2: but that's going to diminish it in the end. It's

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Speaker 2: never as much as you think. But Breese Hall does

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Speaker 2: make a lot of sense to me. We're going to

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Speaker 2: go through some players to keep an eye on, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: Waddle and Chubb, Bradley Chubb specifically on the Dolphins would

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Speaker 2: make sense. And I think it was telling that we

578
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Speaker 2: saw from Ian Rappaport, our guy at NFL Network, that

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Speaker 2: they would listen to offers for a big time price.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think you're trading Jalen Waddle or less

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Speaker 2: than a first I don't think it makes a lot

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Speaker 2: of sense to trade Jalen Wattle. You need to have

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Speaker 2: good young players if you're trying to get better. But

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Speaker 2: you know, we have a question who would be the

585
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Speaker 2: most likely buyers for Jalen Waddle. It's a team that

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Speaker 2: would be like willing to make a huge, huge splash.

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Speaker 3: But I have won, but I don't think it can

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Speaker 3: happen because they're in the same division.

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Speaker 6: It's the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, Like, the Bills could absolutely.

590
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Speaker 3: Use him, and I think Miami, if they honor Mike

591
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Speaker 3: Tomlins principles, would not trade him within the AFC East.

592
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Speaker 3: It's a really attractive trade beyond just this year. He's

593
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Speaker 3: under team control through twenty twenty eight. He's got a

594
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Speaker 3: cap number of only eleven million next year, So this

595
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Speaker 3: is perfect for a contender who doesn't have a lot

596
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Speaker 3: of cap space, who needs to make a big swing,

597
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Speaker 3: maybe a little desperate, maybe feels like their title window

598
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Speaker 3: is closing.

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Speaker 6: And that is the Bills. But they're in the same division,

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Speaker 6: which is why I don't think it happens.

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Speaker 2: Right, They're like every team that I looked at for

602
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Speaker 2: wide receivers in general, there was a reason that it

603
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Speaker 2: didn't make sense. Like Seattle, I could see trading for

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Speaker 2: a receiver, although Tory Horton looked pretty darn good on

605
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Speaker 2: Sunday Night. But they're about to pay JSN like they

606
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Speaker 2: don't need two guys at that level. Philadelphia is always

607
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Speaker 2: going to be in the mix for great players. It

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Speaker 2: would be hilarious because there was a big Wattle or

609
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Speaker 2: DeVante Smith debate back in the day. You know, why

610
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Speaker 2: not have both? You you get aj Brown involved in

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Speaker 2: the trade, get him out of there.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't. That's fantasy football. At this point.

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Speaker 2: I'm fully expecting Aj Brown to stay on that team.

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Speaker 2: The other team that came to mind was the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: I think would invest in a big time receiver, but

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Speaker 2: again in the division. Hard to imagine that happening. Before

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Speaker 2: we move on from the Dolphins, though, I do want

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Speaker 2: to throw to some sound we have of Mike McDaniel

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Speaker 2: talking about two A ton go I Loa and his

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Speaker 2: status as the team's starting quarterback.

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Speaker 7: This week, we play the players that give us the

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Speaker 7: best chance to win, and when that changes, or if

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Speaker 7: that changes, or if somebody else gives us a better shot,

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Speaker 7: then we adjust there.

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Speaker 4: So that that is Mike McDaniel.

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Speaker 2: Kind of telegraphing that to Mike the hot seat a

627
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Speaker 2: little bit.

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Speaker 3: Thanks appreciate it, Mike. That was a non answer, and

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Speaker 3: it was also an answer at the same time. Thanks,

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Speaker 3: we appreciate it. Mike, What are they gonna do? What

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Speaker 3: is benching two really going.

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Speaker 6: To improve your chances? I don't know. I don't think

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Speaker 6: so personally.

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Speaker 2: No, but it just it creates a fracture. It creates

635
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Speaker 2: just even more obvious schism that I've been picking up on.

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Speaker 2: And look, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to pick up

637
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Speaker 2: on it. Like some of the some of the insiders

638
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Speaker 2: who seem to be pushing the Mike McDaniel agenda and

639
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Speaker 2: blaming everything on Tua and last year at the end

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Speaker 2: of the year, it seemed to be a little bit

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Speaker 2: like a Cold war or some disagreement between the two.

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Speaker 4: It's just interesting.

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Speaker 2: And our guy Ian put it out there that, yeah,

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Speaker 2: like if he doesn't play well, we could see Quinn

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Speaker 2: yours or Zach Wilson before the end of the season.

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Speaker 6: Wow, just the dark is a dark future.

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Speaker 2: Because they I think they are just in a fire

648
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Speaker 2: sale mode. Now, that's that's what the Chris Greer firing says.

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Speaker 2: And we'll move on from the Dolphins. But I do

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Speaker 2: just want to say Chris Grear firing him was the

651
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Speaker 2: most overdue sea change for an organization that has been

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Speaker 2: stuck in one mind like one mindset of thinking for

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Speaker 2: almost two and a half decades. Chris Greer has been

654
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: there since his father, Bobby Greer was still in the

655
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: NFL helping to run the Patriots with Pete Carroll. Chris

656
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: Greer is part of the Parcels tree essentially, and so

657
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: it's it's a connection. And I know Parcells wasn't there

658
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: when Greer first got there, but from Parcels when he

659
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 2: was running the team to Jeff Ireland, Greer was there

660
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: around then to Mike Tannenbaum, and Greer was there with

661
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: him then and eventually. So it's been this Stephen Ross

662
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: was always obsessed with Parcels as like a New York

663
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: guy because that's where Ross like, it's been like this

664
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: Parcels tree for twenty years. They just need someone that

665
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: thinks different, So just get a new guy in there.

666
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 4: Let's do some quick NFL news before we talked the

667
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 4: trade stuff.

668
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: I just did just want to circle back that Jaden

669
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: Daniels could potentially return this season. According to Ian Rappaport,

670
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: it wasn't quite as severe as they first believe. A

671
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: dislocated elbow, but he will be out for a significant

672
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: amount of time and you have to wonder, depending on

673
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: where the commanders are when they do when he is

674
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: ready to play again, whether it will be worth it.

675
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: So we'll see if he ends up playing again this year.

676
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: It won't be easier for them because they don't have

677
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: Marshaun Lattimore for the rest of the year. A torn

678
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: acl and Luke McCaffrey has a broken collar blown is

679
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: just brutal. Dan Quinn spoke on Monday about something we

680
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: talked about on Sunday Night Show, Nick about why was

681
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: Jaydeen Daniels still in that game?

682
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 5: Any of you have been asking about the thought process

683
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 5: of Jaden being in the game in that situation. I

684
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Speaker 5: get that. I've been thinking about honestly NonStop too, And

685
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 5: you know, for me, the answers man, I missed it.

686
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 4: M interesting.

687
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: You don't normally hear a coach say that. The next day, I'm.

688
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 4: Surprised, what do you think?

689
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 6: I mean?

690
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 3: I tried to give him a little bit of grace

691
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 3: last night when we talked about it and saying like, oh, well,

692
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: maybe he wanted to see what they could build, you know,

693
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 3: for the next week but you're right, Like, it's not

694
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 3: often that a coach, you know, takes accountability and full

695
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: ownership or something like that. But I think in the

696
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: aftermath of such a what was perceived to be such

697
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: a significant injury and also just the worst possible outcome

698
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: for a team that has already just been well, not

699
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: the worst possible but one of the worst possible outcomes

700
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 3: for a team that has been ravaged by injury. What

701
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: else can he do there other than admit that, yeah,

702
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 3: I probably should have taken him out.

703
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 6: That's on me.

704
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Speaker 3: Good on him, you know, good on Dan. He's a

705
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 3: veteran at the coaching ranks. He's he's seen the mountaintop,

706
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 3: he's seen the opposite, and right now he's somewhere stuck

707
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 3: in between.

708
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it might be.

709
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: He's very emotionally intelligent, I think, and it just might

710
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: be something where, Look, he's talked with his bosses and

711
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: ownership and maybe knows how they feel. He's obviously concerned

712
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: for the young man who is the most important guy

713
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: in the entire franchise, Jade Daniels, and wants to do

714
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: everything possible to support him and wants to take accountability

715
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: and show like even though Jayde Daniel would probably disagree

716
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: because he's a competitor and that's why he was trying

717
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: to get that touchdown like he wants to be out there.

718
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: I think that's good on dan Quinn for kind of

719
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: being man enough to admit that in that moment, and

720
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: it's going to be tough for him managing the next

721
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: few weeks and really the rest of this season after.

722
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 4: Such a great first season.

723
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: Just some quickie news items before we get back to

724
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: the trades. Dio Odengbo is out for the season. Pass

725
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: rusher for the Bears that got a ton of money

726
00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: was starting.

727
00:33:59,560 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 4: Your boy.

728
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanci gave up play calling now to Tommy Reese,

729
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: which is surprising. He's always been a good play caller,

730
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: so I don't know about that. Josh Simmons is back

731
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 2: with the Chiefs, their rookie tackle and the serious injuries

732
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: that we thought happened on Sunday we're all confirmed. Tucker

733
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: Craft of the Packers, Michael Williams of the forty nine Ers,

734
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 2: and Michael Hoyt of the Bills all going to be out.

735
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 4: For the season. So really disappointing.

736
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the trade talk, though, Okay, we'll

737
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: wrap up the show here. I look at Waddle as

738
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,959
Speaker 2: a potential guy, I think Breys Hall is more likely.

739
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 2: The thing with the Jets, though, is they could just

740
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 2: decide to franchise tag him next year. And so when

741
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 2: I look at the rest of the list of possible guys,

742
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 2: it's a lot of guys like one that was traded

743
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 2: on Monday, and that was Draymont Jones. It's gonna be

744
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: guys traded for fifth round picks that can be upgraded

745
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: to a fourth And that's what Draymont Jones was for

746
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 2: the Ravens. Fills a totally important need for them. We're

747
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: just they just need another body as a pass rusher.

748
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: He'd been playing well for the Titans. He's a big guy,

749
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: kind of fits that scheme. That's probably the level of

750
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: trades that we'll see on Tuesday, if we see any,

751
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 2: It's probably not going to be like a lot of

752
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson and Jalen Wadda, but we can hope for.

753
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 6: That, yeah, of course, because that makes the headline.

754
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: Drey Mount Jones has a sack in each of his

755
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: last four games, had a season high one and a

756
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 3: half sacks, and the loss of the Chargers had like

757
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 3: a stretch of two plays in a row where he

758
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 3: just like destroyed their offensive line and blew up a

759
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 3: Chargers drive.

760
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 6: Playing really well.

761
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 3: You know, he's been in multiple stops in his career.

762
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: He spent some time in Seattle, you know, was in

763
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 3: Tennessee for half of the season. And it's the type

764
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 3: of trade that is a little bit lower on the

765
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 3: prestige scale for the Ravens than we typically see, because like,

766
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 3: this is a team that in the offseason will go

767
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: get a DeAndre Hopkins or they'll go get a veteran

768
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 3: who wants to latch on to chase a ring. But

769
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: I think it's very important because, like you said, they

770
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 3: need bodies. They've suffered a lot of injuries up front.

771
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 3: They have looked better defensively recently, but I think that

772
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 3: they're going to need those types of reinforcements down the road.

773
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 3: Now I'm thinking again about lower level trade guys, and

774
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 3: I'm going to keep it in the division real quick here, Greg, Okay,

775
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 3: what do we think this is the Bengals the worst

776
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: defense in the NFL, A team that just crumbled in

777
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: heartbreaking fashion so much that they had offensive players criticizing

778
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 3: them in the post game.

779
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 6: You know, sound in the.

780
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 3: Locker room Logan Wilson has fallen out of the lineup there.

781
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: They are clearly going younger. What does he fetch? Does

782
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 3: anybody want to make a call on him?

783
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 2: I think he could go to the Colts specifically for

784
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 2: their seventh round pickswap I mean to me, he has

785
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: no value essentially. I mean if Keon White can only

786
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: get that and Kyle Duggar, that's that's the most that

787
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: they should get for Logan Wilson. It's just someone to

788
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: pay that salary. The crazy thing is the Bengals are

789
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 2: so like anti making these sort of moves in the season,

790
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: even if it makes sense for them, it might not

791
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: even happen. But yeah, there's a couple of linebackers available,

792
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: him and Pete Werner. I have heard our friend Adam

793
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: on the Saints Block Party podcast mentioned that, you know,

794
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: some teams have been calling about Pete Werner. But you know,

795
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 2: maybe it's a question of, like Mickey Loomis, is doesn't

796
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: even want to necessarily trade the guys he has because

797
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 2: he overvalues them and he wants a higher pick than

798
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: you would expect. But I do think the Saints, more

799
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 2: than just about any team, would make sense to make

800
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 2: some trades. Whether it was a Lante Taylor, a pretty

801
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: talented cornerback in the last year of his contract, that

802
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: would make some sense. Rashid Shaheed, you'd actually get something

803
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,959
Speaker 2: good for Rashid Shaheed. I don't know if the Saints

804
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: should be trading a guy like him, but he would

805
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 2: make some sense. I can't see them trading Cam Jordan

806
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: or it just doesn't make sense after all the time

807
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 2: that he's been there. But Pete Werner is a guy

808
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: I could see Juwan Johnson would do. Would a team

809
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 2: want him? I don't think so with his contract.

810
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: I'm trying to yeah, man, I mean a lot of

811
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 3: these guys feel like Saints specific fits. Like I think

812
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 3: I've always undervalued Pete Warner from when he was at

813
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 3: Ohio State into his NFL career, but he feels very

814
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 3: much like a guy who thrives in New Orleans and

815
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 3: really thrived the Dennis Allen scheme more than he does now.

816
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: So I don't know if the interest is going to

817
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 3: be worth like the return is going to be worth

818
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 3: moving him. And I think you're right about like, do

819
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 3: you want to trade some of the guys that you

820
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 3: have already when you're still trying to turn this thing around.

821
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 3: I do wonder could Shaheed be a good fit for

822
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 3: the Bills as a field stretcher because he kind of

823
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 3: almost falls the same profile as like who they who

824
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 3: they have in that roster like that, that could be

825
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 3: a trade I could see being made.

826
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 4: Ooh, that is a good one.

827
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I think Rashid Jaheid is underrated, undervalued. He's

828
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: gotten better. I was going to compare him to Alec Pears.

829
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: Alec Pierce is getting so good right now that I

830
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: think that's actually underdoing what Alec Pierce is doing in

831
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: a free agency year. We're doing some awards tomorrow and

832
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: I was thinking of doing like a what contract year

833
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 2: guy has made himself the most money award and man,

834
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 2: Alec Pierce is up there.

835
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 4: That's a that's a long way of saying.

836
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: I still think Rashid Shaheed in a Marquez Valdez Scantlon

837
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: plus plus plus plus role. He's kind in a Christian

838
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 2: Watsons roll. Even Yeah, Okay, I got there in the

839
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: he could help a lot of teams out there. The

840
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 2: other news I didn't mention and I want to mention,

841
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: in context of the trade possible trades, is Joe Alt

842
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 2: is going to miss the rest of the season now

843
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 2: devastating news. Their team was so different when he was

844
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 2: on the field to when he wasn't. It's just you

845
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: don't see that too often unless the guy is like

846
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 2: a star quarterback or Micah Parsons. That's how important Joe

847
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: Alt was. It really bumms me out. It makes me

848
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 2: just lower their ceiling.

849
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 3: Yep.

850
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: If I think they could maybe make the playoffs because

851
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: Herbert's playing so well, They're well coached, there's a lot

852
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 2: of talented people.

853
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 7: On the team.

854
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: But if they had all I don't know, like, could

855
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: they have won that division? Could they have made like

856
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 2: a longer playoff run one some playoff games? You know,

857
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 2: in a pretty wide open AFC. I wasn't counting that out.

858
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: I kind of counted out with Joe Al.

859
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 4: So is there any possible tackle trade they could possibly make? Like,

860
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 4: I don't know what that would be.

861
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 2: That is tough to do, but it did make me

862
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: think because of the timing, could the Chargers make a

863
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: trade like that?

864
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, you know, after getting this news today, I

865
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: ran back that game and I keyed it on all

866
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: just because I wanted to see, like how different was it,

867
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 3: And it was remarkably different. Like his first off, he's

868
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 3: a great one on one blocker and he's so stout,

869
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Speaker 3: but it's also his ability to pick up stunts, pick

870
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Speaker 3: up you know, different things that the defense is doing,

871
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Speaker 3: and just being a reliable, solid blind side blocker. And

872
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Speaker 3: as soon as he was gone, it was immediately magnified.

873
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Speaker 3: I think that there was a sack on the very

874
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Speaker 3: next play when Salar replaced him. They gave up a

875
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Speaker 3: season high six sacks in this game. They're already dealing

876
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Speaker 3: with multiple losses at tackle because they lost for Shawn

877
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 3: Slater to start the year, alt had to kick over

878
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Speaker 3: from right to left side.

879
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Speaker 6: They lost Bobby Hart in that game. They had to

880
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Speaker 6: go back to Trey Pipkins.

881
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Speaker 3: Like they are at the bottom of the depth chart

882
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Speaker 3: at the position. And so when this news dropped today

883
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Speaker 3: and I was riding it up, I was thinking, God,

884
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Speaker 3: who could they trade for? An offensive line is not

885
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: like receiver, it's not like cornerback. Once you get past

886
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 3: the starters, the quality drops off. Like the Browns made

887
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 3: a move for Cam Robinson and he has not been

888
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: very good for them when he's been on the field

889
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Speaker 3: and that was a.

890
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Speaker 4: Guy they traded. If the Chargers traded for Cam Robinson.

891
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're gonna have to pay for more

892
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Speaker 3: than the Browns paid for him. But I could see

893
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Speaker 3: that happening. There's just not a lot of options out there.

894
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Speaker 4: Could be his fourth team in two years and yeah,

895
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Speaker 4: third time.

896
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Speaker 6: He's in mid season where scenario Cam Robinson.

897
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Speaker 4: Some comments here we'll roll through.

898
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Speaker 2: Greg has kind of eyes to be honest, thank you

899
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Speaker 2: very much.

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Speaker 6: What does that mean? Does that mean that like you

901
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Speaker 6: have a warm heart?

902
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

903
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Speaker 2: I think I think I might just they just might

904
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Speaker 2: be allergies. Another comment that they like NFL Daily from

905
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Speaker 2: the Around the NFL days. Yeah, we appreciate everyone who's

906
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Speaker 2: been with us throughout.

907
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Speaker 4: It's different.

908
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: It was really great like meeting so many people in

909
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: Ireland and in the UK especially that we're like, you know,

910
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: talking about their relationship with around the NFL and that

911
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 2: they love NFL Daily now and Jordan and Shook and

912
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 2: Patrick and they love Heed the Call and it's really

913
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: cool that everyone's been with us on that journey. And

914
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: let's actually get a question for Shook here one that

915
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: I would like to get answered. What is Shooky's squat

916
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 2: pr M.

917
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Speaker 6: It was like low four hundreds in my peak.

918
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Speaker 3: I have not squatted insistently for the last five years

919
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: because I had a back injury that makes loading the

920
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Speaker 3: spine real rough on me.

921
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Speaker 6: But in my peak it was probably about four oh five.

922
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Speaker 2: Time comes for everyone. Yeah, that's true, especially of offensive linemen.

923
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Speaker 2: How about that transition. There's a couple other names are

924
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 2: going to throw out there. Do the Browns have any

925
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 2: offensive lineman available? Does Joel BUTTONI he probably wouldn't even

926
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Speaker 2: want to move, But would Joel Botonio or Ethan Pocik

927
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: or whyatt Teller? You know, could they ever be available?

928
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: How about Kevin Zeitler, former Brown now on the Titans, Like, yeah,

929
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: there there could be moves in terms of interior offensive lineman.

930
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: I think that would make a lot of sense. And

931
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: oh you know what, I have an idea more of

932
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Speaker 2: the teams that wouldn't need that, you know what I mean,

933
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 2: like the Chargers, Yeah, Chiefs, like everyone could could use

934
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Speaker 2: it in interior offensive lineman. I think that the Brown

935
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Speaker 2: succession Planet Right Guard is going to be Zack Zenter

936
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Speaker 2: replacing Joel Bottonio when Joel decides to retire.

937
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Speaker 3: I don't think he's available. I don't think why Teller's

938
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 3: available post it. Maybe I don't know. But I also

939
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 3: wonder like could Zenter be available, Like could they move

940
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Speaker 3: in to get the right price.

941
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Speaker 2: I don't know sure Djoku would would make sense. Maybe

942
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 2: for sense it's looking for another tight end. We're seeing

943
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 2: all these two tight end sets. It's really going crazy.

944
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,479
Speaker 2: I noticed it tonight, you know, with the Cardinals using

945
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Speaker 2: their six offensive linemen.

946
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Speaker 4: The league has.

947
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: Gotten pretty wild with it lately, where even teams that

948
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: weren't doing it the first half of the season are

949
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: suddenly overdosing in six offensive linemen. And I was, I

950
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 2: was thinking about it, and I was like, did Alec

951
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: Anderson on the Bills like kind of change the shape

952
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,959
Speaker 2: of the NFL this year? Because we would talk about

953
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: it Allie Connelly talked about a lot like that six

954
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: offensive lineman look for the Bills last year was like

955
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 2: the most efficient play in football. And this year they

956
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 2: don't even use it because they just have a tight

957
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: end to be that six offens offensive lineman. It's Spencer Haas,

958
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 2: But you see so many teams doing it and throwing

959
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: out of it, and it's been really a f active

960
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: for a lot of teams out there. So Dan Skipper,

961
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Speaker 2: you know, I'm not saying Alec Anderson's the first ever

962
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: six offensive lineman. It's been happening throughout the course of

963
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Speaker 2: NFL history, but particularly last year the Bills got tons

964
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Speaker 2: of explosive plays in it, so we're seeing.

965
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

966
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Speaker 3: What's cool too, is it's beyond like you usually would

967
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Speaker 3: see on the goal line, like, for example, the Browns

968
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Speaker 3: used defensive tackle aid and Huntington TWU lane guy roll wave.

969
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Speaker 3: In goal line situations, they would use a guard you know,

970
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Speaker 3: in the I think Nick Harris a backup center, they

971
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Speaker 3: would use as like a six lineminer as a blocking fullback.

972
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Speaker 3: But now it's being deployed all over the field, which

973
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Speaker 3: is just an example of how we could say the

974
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Speaker 3: NFL is a pass first league, but can also evolve

975
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Speaker 3: in a number of different ways as the mines, you know,

976
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Speaker 3: continue to get more and more involved in the pushing

977
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Speaker 3: the game forward, and it's fun to watch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they had Beacham in motion tonight on one running

979
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Speaker 2: play that's like a three hundred.

980
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Speaker 6: That's a Trent Williams special, right, there, Kyle.

981
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Speaker 2: And for the most part, these teams are really doing

982
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: it to set up some explosive player pass plays to

983
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 2: the tight ends. We'll see what happens in terms of

984
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Speaker 2: the trade market. Maybe the Bills get a pass rusher

985
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: or cornerback. I could see that potentially happening. I think

986
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Speaker 2: the Patriots are very thin at a lot of defensive positions.

987
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,479
Speaker 2: I could see them just going for like a depth piece,

988
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: and then I really think the Chiefs should should go

989
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 2: get Brisaw. To me, that's the Chiefs trade. That's such

990
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 2: a Chiefs trade. They would be so freaking fast. They

991
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 2: need a running back. They're running backs.

992
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Speaker 4: It's not good.

993
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Speaker 2: I mean, they're making it work, but it would be

994
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 2: so much better with the better back. It shouldn't be

995
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 2: that hard to find a good back. Presawid to the

996
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: Chiefs for a third, who says.

997
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Speaker 6: No, I'm on board? Do it, Chiefs?

998
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Speaker 4: Why not?

999
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 3: You're chasing a title. That's a title chasing move right there.

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Speaker 4: We're always chasing titles.

1001
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1002
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Speaker 2: be elsewhere listening, chook. We'll see you on Thursday night.

1012
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: I hope you have a great week, and we'll talk

1013
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Speaker 2: a little Raiders Broncos then and what will spice up

1014
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Speaker 2: that show and make it even more interesting. We do

1015
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Speaker 2: have a bunch of shows this week, some extra shows.

1016
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Speaker 2: We're going to do a trade deadline recap and we're

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Speaker 2: going to put that up as soon as we can

1018
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Speaker 2: after the trade deadline. And we're also doing in an

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Speaker 2: extra awards show talking MVP but also giving out some

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Speaker 2: of our own awards, So stay tuned in the feed

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Speaker 2: big week. I also get back together with Daniel Deeremiah

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Speaker 2: a little later in the week.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be a lot of fun. Keep it

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Speaker 4: locked on NFL Daily. We will see you on the.

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Speaker 2: Other side of the trade deadline. Trade deadline eve get

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