1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: You are entering the freedom hunt. Impeachment Hearing's day three 2 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: are upon us. Most of it's boring, but there were 3 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: some worthwhile parts we'll dive into together. Plus the revenge 4 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: of the interagency consensus. Did the DNC try to get 5 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: dirt from Ukraine? Phil chick fil A bends the knee 6 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: and is fart Gate now a thing that in more 7 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: coming up? This is the buck Sexton Show, where the 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: mission or mission is to decode what really matters with 9 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 1: actionable intelligence. Make no mistake American Great, You're a great 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: American Again The buck Sexton Show begins. Analysts, remember no 11 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: welcome the buck Sexton Show. Everybody another day, another eachman inquiry. 12 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: The inquisition continues on, Oh my, it is going to 13 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: be the case. It seems that Adam Schiff will tell 14 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: us the same story more or less every day. Now 15 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: he'll tell us the same thing day in and day 16 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: out as we are. Then I suppose going to just 17 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: cave and say anything, We'll do anything, Just please stop 18 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: this serious tone about the threat to our democracy from 19 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: Trump's phone call to Zelenski. That didn't change anything, no investigation. 20 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: Ukrainians got the money for the aid and the weapons 21 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: that Trump would give them that Obama Wooden's But here 22 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: we are going through this nonsense yet again. I would 23 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: note that there was a lot of what we've seen before. Today. 24 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: You had witnesses including Pence Vice and Pence's aid a 25 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: SIGNFOS State Department, Jennifer Williams, and also Lieutenant Colonel Vinmanton, 26 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: hero of the hashtag resistance right now, Oh, isn't that 27 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: a surprise too? Exactly nobody, but he is out there 28 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: giving a lot of his opinions. She's giving her opinions 29 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. She seems like she is not someone 30 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: who wanted to be caught up in this, but is 31 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: going to answer questions. He definitely, Vinman wants to be there. 32 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: He's part of this thing. He got this running, he 33 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: got this in motion, so we already know what we're 34 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 1: dealing with here, which is also why he's very it's 35 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 1: very very touchy about making sure that, for example, he's 36 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: always referred to as Lieutenant Colonel Vinmanton, and even if inadvertently, 37 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: for example, Devin Nunez just refercs him as mister Vinman, 38 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: must correct him right away. Also showing up in full 39 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: dress uniform for his testimony, there's a lot of theatrics 40 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: around mister Vinman right now, and I would just remind 41 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: you that many of the same journos and Democrat members 42 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: of Congress who will try to use Vinman's service in 43 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: the military as a shield for many criticism for what 44 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: he is trying to do now, which has nothing to 45 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: do with his military service. He was at the National 46 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: Security Council, a body comprised of advisors to the president, 47 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: mostly civilians. That's not his military service. He's there as 48 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: an advisory a member of an advisor committee to the president, 49 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: and in that capacity he absolutely can be criticized. But 50 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: many of the Democrats and the members of Congress who 51 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: want you to feel that Vinman is beyond criticism, how 52 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: how dare you critique his motives or motivations? Did they 53 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: feel that way about the ambush by hashtag resistance Obama 54 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: voting deep staters like Sally Yates setting up General Flynn 55 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: and then trying to get him not just fined which 56 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: they did, and ruined which they did, but sent to prison, 57 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: which they are still rooting for. So when is military 58 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: service a shield against all criticism? Oh, when it's a 59 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: Democrat trying to take down the president. But if it's 60 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: somebody else, if it's somebody who's in Trump's good graces, 61 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: somebody who is trying to help implement the Trump agenda, 62 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: then military services no shield whatsoever. So I'm just glad 63 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: we established the double standards right up front. Let's be 64 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: very clear about those double standards. And also a well 65 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: I'll get into that in a moment. The backstory that 66 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: we keep getting from these different individuals. Vinmn, for example, 67 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: even when often talked about how proud he was of 68 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: his dad and leaving the Soviet Union, and that's all fine, 69 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: I just don't care, it doesn't matter. But you'll notice 70 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: that this is a recurring theme. Look at how honorable 71 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: and decent and wonderful these public servants are. Public servants 72 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: who have made it quite clear they objected to President 73 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: Trump's decision making on Ukraine. They didn't like that. For example, 74 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: as Vinman said, he didn't use the talking points that 75 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: he was supposed to. Oh, how dare you not use 76 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: the talking points on the phone call that a bunch 77 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: of I used to prepare talking points the CIA for 78 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, we would look at talking points for different 79 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: senior officials. I mean, this is not a This is 80 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: not an unusual activity. And guess what. Plenty of times 81 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: you know the CI director you write up talking points, 82 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: He's like me, thanks, Who cares? Doesn't really matter. It's 83 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: there for the benefit of the decision maker, for the 84 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: person who is actually in the exchange, in the for ay, 85 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: trying to accomplish a goal. You're just there in an 86 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: advisory role. But the backstory of DMan very important. The 87 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: backstory of these other officials that have come forward, the 88 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: ones who are clearly trying to advance the narrative of 89 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: inappropriate behavior that the president engaged in. Isn't that interesting? 90 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: Inappropriate is a very subjective way to talk about this, 91 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: isn't it. I mean, I thought it was inappropriate for 92 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: President Obama, for example, to in a desperate attempt to 93 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: salvage some foreign policy legacy for himself, for his administration 94 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: and therefore for the handoff to Hillary Clinton to run 95 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: the Democratic Parties foreign policy going forward. I thought it 96 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: was wildly inappropriate for Obama to send pallets of cash, 97 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: actual pallets of cash, to the terrorist regime in Tehran, 98 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: all in an effort to try to curry favor with 99 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: them to get an Iran nuclear deal done that was 100 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: all about legacy for Obama and as we know, didn't 101 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: even last into the Trump administration. I thought that was inappropriate. 102 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: I'm not saying Obama couldn't do it, although maybe he 103 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: should have gotten the Senate to ratify it as a 104 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: treaty so that the next president couldn't just say see 105 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: you later. But I think I don't think it's inappropriate. 106 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of things are inappropriate. I 107 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: don't care what an NSC detail thinks about the president's conduct. 108 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: I just don't care. I don't have to care. I 109 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: don't care, especially given that, why doesn't someone ask Viniman? 110 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: Maybe they will later on in his testimony, but why 111 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: doesn't someone point out that there's no credit being given 112 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: by these deep state elements to Trump for doing what 113 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: Obama would not do and what was so necessary sending 114 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: the Javelin missiles, which was a major It is a 115 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: provocation to the Russian government, but one that if you 116 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: want to help the Ukrainians you're going to have to 117 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: do if you're serious about it. But the backstory about 118 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: vin Men that we have to hear have to be 119 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: told that he also was advising Zelenski at one point 120 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: about how to interact with our government and the Trump 121 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: administration and perhaps to even ignore some aspects of the 122 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: Trump administration's requests. Is that not a bit of a 123 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: problem for people? Which team are you're playing for? When 124 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: you're doing that, you don't advise a foreign government about 125 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: how to do an end run on your own government 126 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: that you work for? Is request from a spirit of that? 127 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: That's you know, you don't tell a foreign government, hey, 128 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: nullify whatever the commander in chief is asking of you. 129 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: Don't worry about that. That came across in testimony today. 130 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: I wonder how much focused the media you'll put on that. 131 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: But my favorite moment, I mean, this is the best 132 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: thing that has happened so far in all this testimony. 133 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: My favorite moment came when Devin Newness is asking for 134 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: a very important information about the chain of transmission of 135 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: information from VINMIN to anybody else who was involved in this. 136 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: Please begin that, producer, Mark, what as you know the 137 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: intelligence community has? I haven't teen different agencies? What agency 138 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: was this individual from? If I could interject here, we 139 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: don't want to use these proceedings, it's our time, but 140 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: we need to protect the whistle blower, if please stop, 141 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: I want to make sure that there's no effort to 142 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: out the whistle blower through the use of these proceedings. 143 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: If the witness as a good faith belief that this 144 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: may reveal the identity of the whistle blower, that is 145 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: not the purpose that we are here for. And I 146 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: want to advise the witness accordingly, mister Vinman, you testified 147 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: in your deposition that you did not know the whistle 148 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: blower rank. Remember at Lieutenant Colonel Viman. Please ooh, clap 149 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: back at Devin Newness. How dare you? I mean, he's 150 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: obviously not trying to be disrespectful. I understand he's entitled 151 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: to have his rank said, but you know, just maybe 152 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: maybe slow your role a little bit. You're speaking too, 153 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: They're speaking to Congress. They understand what they're dealing with. 154 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: Here a few problems with this. Adam Schiff keeps saying 155 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: that the whistleblower has a statutory right to anonymity. That 156 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: is a lie. That is not true. The whistleblower, and 157 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: we could all read the statute. The whistleblower, at the 158 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: discretion of the Inspector General of the Intelligence community can 159 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: remain anonymous unless the Inspector General decides that it's probably 160 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: going to come out anyway, or the Inspector General decides 161 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: to pass it along to the Department of Justice because 162 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: it could be involved in a criminal prosecution. Someone explained 163 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: this to me. If what the president did is so terrible, 164 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: then shouldn't it be referred to the Department of Justice 165 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: for possible prosecution? Or they won't do that because of 166 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: course the Attorney General was appointed by this president. But 167 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: they don't get to make that determination politically. They should 168 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: make it based on what the facts of the case 169 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: may be. Whistleblower is not entitled to ironclad anonymity. That's 170 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: just not accurate. They keep pretending that that's the story. 171 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: People repeating this and saying this just not true. Plus, 172 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: we've all already heard this name. We all we've all 173 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: been told by reputable in so far as they go 174 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: media outlets who this guy is. So now we are 175 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: to sit around and say we don't know. This is 176 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: Soviet style suppression of information in the public domain because 177 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: people are running a scam, because Schiff is running a 178 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: massive scam. But it gets so that's one part of this, 179 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: But it gets a bit worse there's a special right 180 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: now that Adam Schiff has created for someone to just 181 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: say that they are not going to answer a question. 182 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: They're under oath in front of Congress, not antwer question, 183 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: not that they're not playing the fifth, they're not claiming 184 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: that there is an exemption for classified information. They're not 185 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: going to answer the question because maybe sort of kind 186 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: of it could lead to some people understanding who the 187 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: whistleblower is. That's a new one that gives the witness, 188 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: I would note a lot of discretion. Well, can you 189 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: tell us what you had for breakfast last week? No, 190 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: because got to protect the whistle blower's identity. How are 191 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: you going to challenge him on that subjective judgment of 192 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: the witness? Now answer what he wants, don't answer what 193 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: he wants. Is fine. This is why Schiff is disgusting 194 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: and this is a farce. But we have to go 195 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: through this farce together. But it gets better. Continue on 196 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: with the questioning from Congressman Newness. Please, Lieutenant Colonel Benman, 197 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: you testified in the deposition that you did not know 198 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: who the whistleblower was. I do not know who the 199 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: whistleblower is. That is how is it possible for you 200 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: to name these people and then out the whistleblower. Per 201 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: the advice of my counsel, I've been advised not to 202 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: answer specific questions about members of the intelligence community. This 203 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: is Are you aware that this is the Intelligence Committee 204 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: that's conducting an impeachment hearing? Of course, I am. Wouldn't 205 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: the appropriate place for you to come to to testify 206 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: would be the Intelligence Committee about someone within the intelligence community. Frank, Remember, 207 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: per the advice of my counsel and the instructions from 208 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: the chairman, I've been advised not to provide any specifics 209 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: on who I've spoken to withinside the intelligence community. What 210 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: I can offer is that these were properly cleared individuals, 211 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: or was a properly cleared individual with a need to known. Well, 212 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: this is I mean, you can really you can plead 213 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: the fifth, but you're here to answer questions, and you're 214 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: here under subpoena, so you can either answer the question 215 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: or you can plead the fifth And then Adam Shift 216 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: jumps in and says, no, no no, there's a special Shift 217 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: rule where you don't plead the fifth or which, by 218 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: the way, the reason they don't want that is because 219 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: of the optics of it. Why are you pleading the 220 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: fifth about who you talk to you with regard to 221 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: official government business when you're discussing with the House Intelligence Committee. 222 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,479 Speaker 1: Why what is what is the justification for that? Exactly, 223 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: you're worried about self incrimination. You didn't do anything wrong, 224 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: so why would you plead the fifth? There is no 225 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: reason to plead the fifth. There's also no reason for 226 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: him if he is telling the truth that Vinman does 227 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: not know the whistleblower, then there's no basis for him 228 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: to withhold information about who he spoke to because he's 229 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: gonna say, well, theoretically that could be the whistle blower. 230 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: Here's reality. We all know that he is the one 231 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: who talked to the whistleblower. We just have to get 232 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: the proof. We just have to get it one hundred 233 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: percent because otherwise the shady Democrats will lie about it. 234 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: So what is the likeliest scenario here? The likely scenario 235 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: is that Vinman told Charmela about the call, and then 236 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: these guys, you know, worked together and cooked up a 237 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: whole scheme. But then he's like, well, I don't know 238 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: if I'm going to be the one that raises the 239 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: complaint let's give you plausible deniability about whether or not 240 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm the one who's bringing this complaint as the whistleblower. 241 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: That's possible. Otherwise, why is he not discussing who he 242 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: told about the call? I mean, he claims that it 243 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: was a person with a need to know. He's just 244 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: he's just making a subjective determination there. Why would somebody 245 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: not on that phone call in the intelligence community have 246 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:33,119 Speaker 1: a need to know about a presidential action? The president's 247 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: conduct is not reviewable under whistleblower's statutes by subordinate employees 248 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: inside the federal bureaucracy, So how can anyone have a 249 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: need to know about that? My friends, you see exactly 250 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: what this is. The Democrats are just twisting and contorting 251 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: the law and regulations in bad faith in order to 252 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: this narrative alive as long as possible that there was 253 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: just a honorable public servant who couldn't stand the inappropriateness 254 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: presidential phone call with another head of state that led 255 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: to no action and no consequence whatsoever. But they've got 256 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: to just keep this going in the media today, You're 257 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: gonna CNN, Oh my gosh, those whistleblowers were so I mean, 258 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: rather witnesses were so believable. The best of this country 259 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: on display today against evil fascist Donald Trump. Worse than 260 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: a hitler, Donald Trump. We know exactly where this is going. 261 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: It's appalling, sometimes even a little bit amusing because it's 262 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: so absurd. But we're going to be subjected to this continuously. 263 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: And if you thought that today was boring, just wait 264 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: till they bring out the next round of witnesses. About 265 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: two weeks after that July tenth meeting, President Trump and 266 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: President Silinsky had their second call, the now infamous j 267 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: twenty fifth call. Colonel Ventman, what was your real time 268 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: reaction to hearing that call? Without hesitation? I knew that 269 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: I had to report this to the White House Council. 270 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: I had concerns, and it was my duty to report 271 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: my concerns to the proper, proper people in the chain 272 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: of command. And what was your concern It was inappropriate. 273 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: It was improper for the president to requested to demand 274 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: an investigation into a political opponent, opponent, especially a foreign power, 275 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: where there's at best dubious belief that this would be 276 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: a completely impartial investigation, and that this would have significant 277 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: implications if it became public knowledge and it would be 278 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: perceived as a partisan play, it would undermine all Ukraine policy, 279 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: and it would mine our next discurity. Those are all 280 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,719 Speaker 1: opinions that have nothing to do with breaking any law, folks. 281 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: All right, So we just heard from Lieutenant Colonel Vinman 282 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: a second ago there, and I was just getting into 283 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: how absurd this whole thing is. He's talking about how 284 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: the president's phone call was improper. Okay, says him, says you, Vinman, 285 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: I say here, and I keep saying this, what is 286 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: improper about the president at when? When? When corruption is 287 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: a major issue, a consensus, interagency consensus issue for foreign 288 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: policy in Ukraine? What is improper about asking your counterpart 289 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: as the president United States to look into corruption including 290 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: and they keep saying this, this debunked conspiracy theory about 291 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: the about Ukraine interfering in the election, and the debunked 292 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories of the of the right. I have to 293 00:18:54,560 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: wonder what was the right wing somehow able to take 294 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: over Politico because here's the story that they published in 295 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire. KIV officials 296 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: are scrambling to make amends with the President elect after 297 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: quietly working to boost Clinton. Oh wait, but I thought 298 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: it's a debunked conspiracy. This hasn't been retracted. No one 299 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: said this is false. But this is Politico, a favorite 300 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: left wing website and magazine on politics. I'm confused. If 301 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: we had real journalists, there are some, but overwhelmingly we don't. 302 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: If we had a real journalism profession in this country, 303 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: we would have answers to the question already. Did Democrat 304 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: operatives Alexandra Chalupa's name keeps coming up? There are others 305 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: as well. Did Democrat operatives try to get information about 306 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: Paul manif than the Trump campaign chairman, from the Ukrainians 307 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: to use as dirt on him. We need a hard 308 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: and fast answer to that question. The Libs don't want 309 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: us to have one, because here's the problem. As much 310 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: as they will try to do the usual double standard 311 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: dance of oh but mana for it's so bad and 312 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: he went to prison. Yeah, but guess what, folks, That 313 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: would be foreign interference in the election, wouldn't it, And 314 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: in fact, it would be the party in power using 315 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: foreign relations as a tool of partisan politics against a 316 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: challenging a challenger presidential campaign. A little more from this 317 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: political piece. Since I'm feeling frisky today, let's do it. 318 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: Donald Trump wasn't the only presidential candidate whose campaign was 319 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: boosted by officials of a former Soviet block country had 320 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: taken a shot there on Russia stuff. Ukrainian government officials 321 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: try to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly 322 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating 323 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were 324 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: investigating the matter, only to back away after the election, 325 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: and they helped Clinton's allies research damaging information on Trump 326 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: and his advisors. A Politico investigation found end quote is 327 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: that who's responsible in conservative circles for that conspiracy? Is 328 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: that really Giuliani's fault? The political report of this in 329 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen is John Solomon's fault? At Politico actually competitor 330 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: of the Hill where John was publishing his stories and 331 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: where I used to work, is it? I'm just wondering, 332 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: did they make that happen or Oh, have you seen 333 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: any effort whatsoever to follow up on this to get 334 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: more information? Why don't we have people under oath to 335 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: defying about this? Because here's the for me, at least 336 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: even more interesting component the story here says that Ukrainian officials, 337 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: in an effort to curry favor with Hillary Clinton. Keep 338 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: in mind, everybody thought Hillary was going to win. So 339 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: if you're a foreign government that's used to a whole 340 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: lot of corruption like Ukraine is, and you know that 341 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: the incoming administration in twenty sixteen into twenty seventeen would 342 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: be in a position to really help or really hurt you, 343 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: would it perhaps be a smart play if you thought, 344 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: because remember what the consensus was, ninety seven percent to 345 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: three percent, or whatever the New York Times had on 346 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: election day. If you were ninety seven percent sure in 347 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: your mind that Hillary Clinton was going to be the 348 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: next president of the United States, and you needed the 349 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: good graces of Hillary Clinton in order to fend off 350 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: the Russians, wouldn't you perhaps be willing to buy some 351 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: goodwill give a little information on a admittedly sketchy fellow 352 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: like Paul Manafort. Now I also will point out that 353 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: I think that the standard the Democrats have set up 354 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,479 Speaker 1: of you can't have information from a foreigner, which they 355 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: don't abide by in any sense. Christopher Steal is a foreigner. 356 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: The dossier was based on foreign sources, So I mean, 357 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: they're total frauds on that to begin with. But I'm 358 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: somebody who believes that if information is relevant to a 359 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: presidential campaign, information is relevant to a presidential campaign. I 360 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: think that this new way if a British tabloid newspaper 361 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: were to break a major story about a presidential candidate, 362 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: or are we supposed to say, up, can't see it, 363 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: foreign source, it's idiocy. This is a this is not 364 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: a standard that you could really apply. But the Liberals 365 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: have convinced themselves this is a real standard. But if 366 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: you're the Ukrainian government, wouldn't you or some people within 367 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: the Ukrainian government, wouldn't you think, hey, let's let's help 368 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: seal the deal here for seal the deal here for Hillary, 369 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: and maybe pass along information that looks bad for Trump. 370 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: Why do the Democrats so desperately not want confirmation of 371 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: this because it would blow an enormous hole in their 372 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: whole scam. And the scam is to pretend that only 373 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: Republicans do this sort of thing. The scam is to 374 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: pretend that they would never leverage foreign sources of information 375 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: in a presidential campaign. Oh my god, foreign interference in 376 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: our election. Oh no, the political story continues. Quote. A 377 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: Ukrainian American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National 378 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian embassy in 379 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump top 380 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: campaign aide Paul Manafort, and Russia. According to people with 381 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: direct knowledge of the situation, the Ukrainian efforts had an 382 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: impact in the race, helping to force Manafort's resignation and 383 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: advancing the narrative that Trump's campaign was deeply connected to 384 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: Ukraine's vote to the east Russia. My friends, this is 385 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: part of the This is Politico, which is a major site, 386 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: left wing, a major site telling the American public in 387 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen that Democrat collusion with Ukrainian sources was part 388 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: of the genesis of the whole Russia collusion narrative. Where 389 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: why do we believe that this is not true or 390 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: what what reason we have to believe? And keep in mind, 391 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: all of the senior Ukraine policy people at the time, 392 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: could people like Vin men and the various ambassadors who 393 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: have come forward, not Solomon because they hate him because 394 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: he's kind of pro Trump. He's a Trump appointee. But 395 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: the other ambassadors that came forward last week, the guy 396 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: with the big bow tie, I think it was Kent, 397 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: was his ambassador Kent. They could theoretically be implicated in 398 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: this too. They're the ones say, oh, my gosh, Trump 399 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: asked for an investigation of Ukraine. It's the most horrible 400 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: thing ever. But was it at least feasible? Is it 401 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 1: plausible that they would have at least been aware of 402 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: this effort? That makes perfect sense, And no one yet 403 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: has been able to find a reason why it's not 404 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: true to dig up dirt on metaphor who was operating 405 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: in Ukraine. All these things line up. None of this 406 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: sounds like it's crazy, like it doesn't make sense, and 407 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: it's been reported on and no one's been able to 408 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: prove otherwise. But doesn't it seem like perhaps some of 409 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: those senior Obama era Ukraine policy officials, the interagency consensus 410 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: as it was at the time, maybe some of them 411 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: knew that there were Ukrainian officials and some Democrat operatives 412 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: stomping around trying to find dirt on Trump. What would 413 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: happen if we found out now that some of the 414 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: very same people who are claiming it was a horrible 415 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: crime against humanity or whatever they're saying. It's not even 416 00:26:54,320 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: a crime. It's inappropriate, improper for the President to ask 417 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: for an investigation of exactly what Politico is talking about here, 418 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: which is the origins of the Russia collusion lie which 419 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: the Democrats ran with for over two years, the origins 420 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: of it as it pertains to Ukraine, and also whether 421 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: there was corruption going on in Ukraine that involved the 422 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: Biden family. There was a whole bunch of stuff that 423 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: the President mentioned in that phone call. What would we 424 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: think of these brave, selfless, nonpartisan public servants if it 425 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: turned out that when information was coming from the Ukrainians 426 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: it was that was bad for Trump. That's fine, it's 427 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: just when Trump wants information from his Ukrainian counterpart that 428 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: could be theoretically bad for a Democrat unacceptable. Can't have that. 429 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: And now let's also put our thinking caps on for 430 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: a moment here. This report is in Politico is all 431 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: about whether there or Ukrainian or Ukrainian government officials trying 432 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: to give damaging information on Manifort to Democrats, Hillary people, 433 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: Obama people in order to take down the Trump administration. 434 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: Do we believe then that it is it feasible. I 435 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: can't prove this. Is it feasible that those individuals weren't, 436 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: meaning the Democrats who would have been in receipt of 437 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: this information on Maniford and perhaps other Russia Trump connection conspiracies, 438 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: that they wouldn't have been requesting actively seeking that information, because, 439 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: my friends, there, what we would have is Democrats actively 440 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: seeking foreign interference in the very election that they claim 441 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: was stolen. Because of foreign interference in the election, all 442 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: of their credibility, all of this stuff would just come 443 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: crashing down around them. The impeachment proceeding would have to 444 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: come to a screeching halt, or at least for anybody 445 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: with an IQ over ten, they'd realize it should come 446 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: to a screeching halt. But here we are pretending like 447 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: we don't have this information and hearing from all of 448 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: these different so called witnesses who have an ax to 449 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: grind against the president, who are sharing their thoughts and 450 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: feelings about something, and I simply just don't care what 451 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: their thoughts and feelings are with any of this. Nor 452 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: does the law a nor should a Congress that took 453 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: its job and its powers with any seriousness. But the 454 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: Democrats in this Congress are so desperate because the president 455 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: is doing so well on what matters that they feel 456 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: they have to throw some wrench into the gears. They 457 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: have to try some desperate ploy to shift the narrative 458 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: to damage this president politically, because otherwise he's going to 459 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: cruise to reelection and they know it. That's what all 460 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: of this is really about today. Don't lose sight of 461 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: that for one second. You've described this as a demand, 462 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: this favorite that the president asked. What is it about 463 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: the relationship between the President Nited States and the President 464 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: of Ukraine that leads you to conclude that when the 465 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: President Nited States asked a favor like this, it's really 466 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: a demand, Chairman. The culture I come from the military culture. 467 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: When a senior asks you to do something, even if 468 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: it's play and pleasant, it's it's not. It's not to 469 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: be taken as a request. It's to be taken as 470 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: an order. In this case, the power disparity between the 471 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: two leaders. My impression is that in order to get 472 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: the White House meeting, President Zelinski would have to deliver 473 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: these investigations. Does Vinman think he's in sociology class here? 474 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: It's you all of a sudden, you know, a gender 475 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,719 Speaker 1: studies professor, waxing philosophical on on power disparity. What the 476 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: heck is this? Well, I come from military culture. Okay, 477 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: that's great. We understand You've made that very clear of him, 478 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: and we get it. Zelenski doesn't come from the United 479 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: States or military culture and is certainly not a subordinate 480 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: officer to President Trump. So if you're going to play 481 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: the whole, you know, did you order the code read? 482 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: Meaning Trump orders Zelenski to do the code read here? 483 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: There has to be a chain of command. There is 484 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: no chain of command. Zelenski could very easily have come 485 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: back a deret. You later said, you know what, I asked. 486 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: My guys already looked at that. There's just nothing to 487 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: see there, I mean. And that's that. You know, there 488 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: are all these extra legal rights that the libs are 489 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: creating in this there's so much smoke screen, and you 490 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: have people like Schiff who are just the most dishonest 491 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: human beings you could find anywhere, and they keep creating 492 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: these acts like the right to anonymity for the whistleblower 493 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: that is not a statutory right, but they're pretending that 494 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: it is, and the media is going along with it. 495 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: No efforts in the media right now to find out 496 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: who the whistle blower is. You might ask Buck, why 497 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: were there some initial efforts, because remember Shift said that 498 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: then whistle blower had to testify. So they were going 499 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: to do the whole thing that they always do, where 500 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: they construct this narrative of the selfless, heroic public servant 501 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: with no politics whatsoever. What they've done with vin Men 502 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: and Kent, then the other ambassadors that nobody remembers from 503 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: last week, Ivanovitch, just gonna know how to say her name. Oh, 504 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: the heroic public servants. Okay, they were going to do 505 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: that for the whistleblower, but then they realized, oh, whistleblower's 506 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: got some political baggage here. Even the Inspector General noted 507 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: that there was the belief or there was reason to 508 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: believe that he had political bias. Well, if it's clear 509 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: this is all just a political hit job from inside 510 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: the bureaucracy, because there are a lot of feckless federal 511 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: bureaucrats who hate Trump everything he stands, will do anything 512 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: to stop him. That's nothing new. Doesn't that undermine the 513 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: whole case. This is about the sectuary of our democracy 514 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: and undermining our national security for personal benefit, and all 515 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: these other gaseous phrases we hear from Democrats. You don't 516 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: give a crap about any of this. Well, I leave 517 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: that to your I leave that to your analytic capabilities. 518 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: My friends, I think we all know the answer here 519 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: and then you had Jennifer Williams. Here's what she had 520 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: to say. It played twenty four. On July twenty fifth, 521 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: along with several of my colleagues, I listened to a 522 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: call between President Trump and president's Lenski, the content of 523 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: which has since been publicly reported. Prior to July twenty fifth, 524 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: I had participated in roughly a dozen other presidential phone calls. 525 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: During my closed store deposition, members of the committee asked 526 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: about my personal views and whether I had any concerns 527 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: about the July twenty fifth call. As I testified then, 528 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: I found the July twenty fifth phone call unusual because, 529 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: in contrast to other presidential calls I had observed, it 530 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 1: involved discussion of what it appeared to be a domestic 531 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: political matter. After the July twenty fifth call, I provided 532 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: an update in the Vice President's Daily Briefing book indicating 533 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 1: that President Trump had a call that day with President's Lensky. 534 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: A hard copy of the memorandum transcribing the call was 535 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 1: also included in the book. I do not know whether 536 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: the Vice President reviewed my update or the transcript. I 537 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: did not discuss the July twenty fifth call with Vice 538 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: President or any of my colleagues in the Office of 539 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: the Vice President or the NSC. A little unusual, that's 540 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: what this woman. I don't think she's hashtag resistance, by 541 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: the way, which is why she's just like, yeah, this 542 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: is what I heard, like a little unusual. Okay, you're 543 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: going to appeach the president because he had a phone call. 544 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: I was a little unusual enough it happened. Think about this, folks. 545 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: So much depends on getting this right, because if there 546 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: are four more years of this president, we will not 547 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: recognize our United States of America. We must win. Now. 548 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: We already know Donald Trump and as allies will do 549 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: anything they can to hold on to power. But their 550 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: playbook is not going to work on me. We all 551 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: know climate change his existential threat to us all. The 552 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: first thing I'll do as president is re during the 553 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,720 Speaker 1: Paris climbing to Chord, which I helped put together bring 554 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: all almost two hundred nations to Washington, DC to make 555 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: them keep the commitment to in fact up the ante 556 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: on climate change and get to zero met zero emissions 557 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: by twenty fifteen, by thirty thirty five. Make sure that 558 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: fifty percent of that is already done. Ladies and gentlemen, 559 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: beating Donald Trump's not going to be easy. The first 560 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: thing the next president is going to have to deal 561 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: with is inherited a divided nation, a world in disarray. 562 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,479 Speaker 1: You know, we need a leader who on day one 563 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: has the proven ability to unite this country, to bring 564 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: people together. That's what I've done my whole career. Existential 565 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: threat after existential threat from the Democrats. Isn't it to astonishing? 566 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: Climate change is an existential threat. Trump is an existential threat. Basically, 567 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: vote for Democrats or we're all gonna die. Is the 568 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 1: d n c's mantra. Vote for Democrats or the world 569 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: is going to end. Not an exaggeration, This is not hyperbole. 570 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: This is what they are offering you. Unless you vote 571 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 1: against Trump, everybody's gonna die. I don't find that unifying. 572 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: Call me strength, I don't find that compelling. I don't 573 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: find it honest or helpful. I find it insane. But 574 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: here I am I'm the crazy one. I'm a New 575 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: York City. I think ninety percent of Manhattan, the island 576 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,760 Speaker 1: i'm currently on, voted for Hillary Clinton in the last election. 577 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: I guess nine out of ten people here think that 578 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: I'm the crazy one. What does that say? Climate change 579 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 1: an existential threat? We will not recognize the United States? 580 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: Mayor Pete says he's an existential threat to this country 581 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: will no longer be America if President Trump wins. Maybe 582 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: they should just come down. Maybe it's time for the 583 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 1: Democrats to just take a step back, take a deep breath, 584 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: and try not to be so utterly crazy. But that 585 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: brings me to what I start to think is a 586 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: real threat to this country, at least a threat to 587 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: the unity of this country, to our future as a 588 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: political entity where we can solve disputes through the process 589 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: about what should be happening in this country, about what 590 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 1: government is doing and what rights people have, to solve 591 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: it through good faith and understand that ultimately, even if 592 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 1: we don't get everything we want, this country is the richest, freest, 593 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: most prosperous political entity ever to have existed. In the 594 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: history of the world, and therefore we can handle some disputes, 595 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: including disputes that don't end up going our way. If 596 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:25,240 Speaker 1: that changes, then it's not clear to me that we 597 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: will be able to recognize our country all that much longer. 598 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: But this scorched earth politics what exactly the Attorney General 599 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: bar was talking about over the weekend. The ends justify 600 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: the means, stop at nothing. You want to do good, 601 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: and therefore the people who oppose what you're trying to 602 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: do must be bad. That mentality has completely overtaken the 603 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: left and the Democratic Party and the socialists therein, and 604 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: it's getting more and more troubling. They no longer are 605 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: happy even to have legal victories or cultural victories. They 606 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: expect legal victory in the culture war. They expect cultural 607 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: victory in the same and then they want to go 608 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: around and force people to bend the knee, and if 609 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: they won't do that, then they plan to just throw 610 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: them on the ground and baying at the survivors, so 611 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 1: to speak. That's where we are now, my friends, that's 612 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 1: what we face from the opposition. And yet another example 613 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:33,760 Speaker 1: of this is Chick fil A. Now I am because 614 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: of my genetic issue with Celiac disease, not somebody who 615 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: can speak very well about how good Chick fil a 616 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: is because I can basically eat nothing. I can have 617 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:52,720 Speaker 1: their waffle fries, which are just okay, I'm just gonna 618 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: say it. As French fries go, they are just producer mark. 619 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: You like the waffle fries, That's the only thing, of 620 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: course I do. I like everything about Chick fil A. 621 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 1: I mean, people tell me that the chicken sandwiches are 622 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: like amazing, They're like addictive, and the spicy chicken sandwich 623 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: is a die f. I can't touch any of it 624 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: basics like I mean, they have grilled chicken nuggets. Now, 625 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: I've had the that's what I do when I'm stuck 626 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: in an airport. And I have supported Chick fil A 627 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: because I like the way I like their customer service. 628 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: I like the way that they treat their employees, that 629 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: they close on Sunday, they do all these things that 630 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: they're a Christian values company. The third largest fast food 631 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: company in the United States. I was unaware of that, 632 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: by the way, after McDonald's, and I believe Starbucks is 633 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: number two now in terms of if you count Starbucks 634 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: as fast food. Yeah, yeah, but the chicken nuggets, the 635 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,240 Speaker 1: grilled chick Look, no one really wants grilled chicken nuggets. 636 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: It's like diet food, right, So I you know, I 637 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: understand that that's not a fair way for me to judge. 638 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 1: The chicken nuggets are okay. But Chick fil A is 639 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: obviously a very very successful business model. But it has 640 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: come under a lot of scrutiny in recent years because 641 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: it is a traditional Christian values company, and as a 642 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:13,919 Speaker 1: traditional Christian values company, there is some conflict with the 643 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: LGBTQ community, with the woke left, with the social justice warriors. 644 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: There are our problems that they have with this. And 645 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: so here is what Chick fil A decided to do. 646 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: After years of being a staunch supporter not just of 647 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: Catholic I mean sorry, Christian rather values, but also Christian charities, 648 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: Chick fil A is cutting off donations to the Salvation Army. 649 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: They're getting rid of donations to the Salvation Army and 650 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 1: the Fellowship of Christian Athletes because of their stands on 651 00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: same sex marriage. So because those organizations, and remember those 652 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: organizations do not discriminate against anyone, they provide services, relief assistants, 653 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: help food, shelter, advice everything to people irrespective of religious 654 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: belief of gender, ethnicity, you know, you name anything, right. 655 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: They do not discriminate as a sexual orientation. But the 656 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: organization does support and it's I believe the Salvation Armies 657 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: officers so to speak, are or think they're ministers or deacons. 658 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: I mean they are. I believe that's there. That's a 659 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: standard for them, and they espouse traditional marriage beliefs. The 660 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 1: charity is now getting money cut off to it Salvation Army, 661 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: which I think, well, I'll get into their their statement 662 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: that they have put out as a result. But you 663 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: know these people that are always going to ring in 664 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: the bell and they want the money on the street 665 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 1: and Christmas time they raising all this money. They really 666 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,280 Speaker 1: they do a lot of good for a lot of people. 667 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:07,280 Speaker 1: GLAD which is a it is the gay and lesbian 668 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: I forget what the rest of the but GLAD is 669 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: an LGBTQ advocacy organization, a very very powerful one, very 670 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: well funded, a lot of a lot of sway in 671 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: media world and in corporate America in general. GLAD in 672 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: response in response to what Chick fil A did here 673 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: which I and I keep in mind, there was also 674 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: a controversy recently with Ellie Goulding, who I don't even 675 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: know who. I know she's a singer. I don't even 676 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: know what her songs are, but you know, I'm out 677 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: of the loop these days. She wouldn't perform at the 678 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: halftime ceremony of a I think it was an NFL 679 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: game on Thanksgiving because there there was raising money I 680 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: think for the Salvation Army, if if memory serves, and 681 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,720 Speaker 1: so she wanted them to make a statement of support 682 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: or to make a donation to a pro LGBTQ charity. 683 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just tough to keep up with all 684 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: this stuff anyway. So there's been a bit of controversy 685 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: right now generated by the left by these different social 686 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 1: justice warriors and people trying to outdo one another on 687 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: their wokeness. A bit of controversy with regard to the 688 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: Salvation Army. Remember an organization that just helps people, A charity, 689 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: A charity that just helps people. They're going after that 690 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: and glad. The LGBT Advocacy Organization responded officially to Chick 691 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: fil A bending the knee to the LGBT community by 692 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: cutting off the Salvation Army because the Salvation Army is 693 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: for traditional marriage as a policy matter, Glad responded in 694 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 1: this way quote In addition to refraining from financially supporting 695 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:18,720 Speaker 1: anti lgbt Q organizations, Chick fil A still lacks policies 696 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: to ensure safe workplaces for lgbt LGBTQ employees and should 697 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:34,399 Speaker 1: unequivocally speak out against the l anti LGBTQ reputation that 698 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 1: their brand represents. Ah See, this is the problem with 699 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: bending the need to wokeness. They do not take it 700 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 1: as a gesture of good faith. They do not take 701 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,839 Speaker 1: it as conciliation. They see it as weakness, and then 702 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 1: they expect more. Now you've conceded that you're a bigot, 703 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: so you better listen to everything they say going forward, 704 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 1: or else are going to keep calling you a bigot, 705 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 1: which you've already admitted to you by changing your behavior 706 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 1: based on what they say you should do. Have the 707 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: executives at Chick fil A who came up with this 708 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: decision to cut off the Salvation Army of all things, 709 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: have they learned nothing in have they seen nothing in 710 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: recent years? Let's be very clear about this. The lgbt 711 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: activist community, there are LGBTQ people I know who are 712 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: very active Christians, and they have a different view of 713 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 1: this matter. Many of them do, I should say, but 714 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: the LGBT community of activist groups and the tremendous influence 715 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 1: they have in culture and media and in corporate America now, 716 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: they do not accept, they will not accept any organization 717 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: that still advocates for traditional marriage. They expect those organizations 718 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 1: to be attacked and destroyed, including it. It's just a 719 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 1: matter of time before this becomes even more overt religious organizations. 720 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 1: One of the problems that they will run into, however, 721 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 1: with this is that when they try to get the 722 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,879 Speaker 1: Catholic Church to abandon its traditional marriage, dance and other 723 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: Christian denominations. Although these days there's so many Christian denominations, 724 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: and you know some of them. I look at it, 725 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 1: and I mean, seriously, it looks like some kind of 726 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,839 Speaker 1: a like youth rock concert where everyone's just like having 727 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: a great time and no one's actually talking about morality 728 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 1: or ethics or Jesus or the gospel. But that's a 729 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 1: whole another conversation for another day. I mean, if you 730 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: want to go to a rock concert, just go to 731 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: a rock concert. I don't know. I mean, that's how 732 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,319 Speaker 1: I but then again, I grew up Catholic, so we 733 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: have a lot of incense and you know, singing and 734 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 1: other things. But what you see happening here is the 735 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: move toward ostracizing and eventually actively condemning any traditional marriage 736 00:47:55,560 --> 00:48:02,760 Speaker 1: advocacy anywhere as the equivalent of being a racist, for example, 737 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 1: you know that this is it's no longer going to 738 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 1: be Oh, those are your religious beliefs. You believe that 739 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,760 Speaker 1: this is a covenant between a man and woman and God. 740 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 1: And so as long as that's not official state policy, 741 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 1: you can still to know. If you even speak that allowed, 742 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: you will be punished. The state will be brought down 743 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 1: on your head, the culture will be brought down on 744 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,879 Speaker 1: your head, the media will come after you, even if 745 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 1: you are a charity that has saved millions of people 746 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 1: from deprivation, despair, and perhaps even worse during their darkest times. 747 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:51,959 Speaker 1: Here is how the Salvation Army responded to this move 748 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,800 Speaker 1: by Chick fil A to drop them as a partner, 749 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: a corporate partner that sponsors some of what they do. Quote, 750 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,839 Speaker 1: We're sad to learn that a corporate partner has felt 751 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: it necessary to divert funding to other hunger education and 752 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 1: homelessness organizations areas in which the Salvation Army, as the 753 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: largest social services provider in the world, is already fully committed. 754 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 1: The Salvation Army said in a statement, quote, we serve 755 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: more than twenty three million individuals a year, including those 756 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 1: in the LGBTQ plus community. In fact, we believe we 757 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 1: are the largest provider of poverty relief to the LGBTQ population. 758 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 1: They are helping twenty three million people a year. But 759 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,240 Speaker 1: because the organization and its leadership and its Christian roots 760 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 1: still adhere to adhere to a policy preference, really a 761 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 1: religious and an ethical preference, or marriage as it was 762 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 1: traditionally known until the oberg Felt decision the Supreme Court 763 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 1: in this country. You know, between a man and a 764 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:11,800 Speaker 1: woman that chair. All the good stuff they do doesn't 765 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: really matter. They have to not just be punished, but 766 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 1: they have to. This organization now needs to be humiliated. 767 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 1: It needs to be treated like it's a pariah organization. 768 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 1: We are not going to last very long as a 769 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 1: country going forward. If we have to know the politics 770 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 1: of every restaurant owner when we go into a restaurant, 771 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 1: if we have to know you know, I had a 772 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,760 Speaker 1: friend recently tell me that she has she knows people. 773 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 1: She's obviously conservative, so she's cool, but she knows people 774 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 1: who won't go to soul Cycle, which is one of 775 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 1: these bicycle cycling classes into it, won't go to Soule 776 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 1: Cycle anymore because the owner has supported Trump. I mean, 777 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 1: if this is the way that the society is going 778 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 1: to go, if we're going to accept the hyper politicization, 779 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 1: politicization of everything, extend no grace, no forgiveness, and no 780 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 1: sense of kindness and decency to each other, irrespective of 781 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: political differences, we are heading for very dark and dangerous 782 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: times as a country. Forget about climate change. That's pull, 783 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 1: it's a distraction. It's nonsense. It's not going to do 784 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 1: anything to you. I promise you. I mean, I know 785 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 1: you already know this, but I promise you. You know, 786 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 1: in ten years they'll still be saying, well, we are 787 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 1: wrong about ten years ago, but now it's really gonna 788 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 1: be bad. I mean, this is just, this is just 789 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 1: there's there's a part of people's brains that like to 790 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 1: think about how it's all going to end and the terribleness, 791 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 1: and it's just it's it excites the brain to think 792 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 1: about the end, and then it excites the socialist to 793 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: think that they can take over all aspects of the 794 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 1: economy and day to day life based upon this hyperventilating 795 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 1: fairy tale. They tell each other about how the world 796 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 1: is going to end unless we stop using certain light 797 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: bulbs and take shorter shower. This is absurd, But this 798 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 1: is a This is a bad day when an organization 799 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,720 Speaker 1: that is as successful as Chick fil A bends the knee, 800 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 1: and when a group that you would think should at 801 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,880 Speaker 1: least get some extension of faith, of good faith and 802 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 1: people treat it with a little bit of just respect 803 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:19,800 Speaker 1: for the good that it does is being trashed because 804 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 1: they have a different view of marriage. This is not 805 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 1: going to end well unless we start to turn the 806 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 1: situation around. All right, team, there's a lot going on 807 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,840 Speaker 1: right now in Hong Kong. We haven't updated you on 808 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 1: the story in a while. It is getting particularly violent. 809 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 1: The standoff is getting worse. We want to bring in 810 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 1: our friend Gordon Chang, author of The Coming Collapse of China. 811 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 1: You see him all the time on Fox News. Also 812 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,279 Speaker 1: hear him on the John Bachelor's Show. Gordon, thanks so 813 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 1: much for joining us. Tell us what is going on 814 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 1: right now in Hong Kong. Yeah, at this moment, there 815 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 1: are two things of importance. One of them is that 816 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 1: there was a standoff at Hong Kong Polytechnic University where 817 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 1: they're about six protesters in the university buildings and they 818 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 1: were completely surrounded by police. Was a siege. About eighty 819 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 1: or so escape, there's maybe a hundred left. The others surrendered. 820 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 1: Those who were eighteen or above were arrested. Those below eighteen, 821 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,760 Speaker 1: they were merely photographed, their Hong Kong identity card numbers 822 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 1: taken and they were let go at least for the moment. 823 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,239 Speaker 1: The other development is extremely troubling, and I think it's 824 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,880 Speaker 1: because siege imping. The Chinese ruler believes he has the 825 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 1: advantage because the siege at Hong Kong Polytechnic is winding down, 826 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 1: and that is there was an attack on Albert Hoe, 827 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,799 Speaker 1: a leading pro democracy figure. There was an attempt to 828 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 1: burn down the premises of the Epic Times, a newspaper, 829 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 1: and it seems like we were starting to see thug 830 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,959 Speaker 1: rule in Hong Kong. And this was related, of course 831 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 1: to China, because China for the most part controls the 832 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,319 Speaker 1: political activities of thugs. In the territory are now, what 833 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 1: do you think the response from the Chinese government is 834 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,160 Speaker 1: going to be in the day's ahead. It feels like 835 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,760 Speaker 1: there's been an escalation the violence I feel. I remember 836 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 1: a few days ago there was video of a policeman 837 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,799 Speaker 1: in Hong Kong shooting a protester at at effectively point 838 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 1: blank range in the chest. So there's been there's been 839 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:26,320 Speaker 1: real violence. Do you think that what prevents Xi Jinping 840 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,239 Speaker 1: from just saying do what you gotta do, lock it 841 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 1: down and start really essentially go the Tienamen Square route. Well, 842 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 1: I think that they police have pretty much orders to 843 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,359 Speaker 1: do whatever they want, which is the reason why eight 844 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: days ago, in that incident you mentioned, a Hong Kong 845 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,400 Speaker 1: traffic cop told the revolver on a protester who was 846 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 1: obviously unarmed, shot him in the torso. And this wasn't 847 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 1: an open place where the officer could have retreated. There 848 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 1: was no threat at all to his life, the no 849 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 1: threat of all to property damage, nothing. And so we 850 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 1: have seen a much more aggressive attitude on the part 851 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 1: of the police, and indeed, in this Hong Kong Polytechnic standoff, 852 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,440 Speaker 1: some of the tactics of the police have really been horrific. 853 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 1: There's this video going around showing a protester lying completely 854 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 1: prone on the ground Hong Kong policeman stomping on his head. Also, 855 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 1: people who are trying to surrender from Hong Kong Polytechnic 856 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 1: were met with robert bullets and with tear gas. So 857 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,480 Speaker 1: I think the police essentially can do what they want now. 858 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,320 Speaker 1: I think what prevents China from formally deploying the People's 859 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 1: Armed Police or the People's Liberation Army is that they 860 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 1: know that the protesters will fight them, and that not 861 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 1: only the protesters will take casualties, but so will China's forces, 862 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 1: and the casualties will be high on both sides. I 863 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 1: think that's the deterrent right now with siege and pain, 864 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 1: is there any real effort to negotiate between the two sides. 865 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 1: Who's in charge of that? You know? Whatever happened to 866 00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 1: carry lamb and how are the how are those processes 867 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 1: playing out if they're playing out at all. Yeah, dialogue 868 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:10,399 Speaker 1: between the two sides is completely broken down. First of all, 869 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 1: it is difficult to negotiate with protesters because there's so 870 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,800 Speaker 1: many different types of protesters right now, Nobody speaks for 871 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 1: the movement. Nobody wants to speak for the movement. On 872 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 1: the other side, Carrie Lamb speaks for nobody, but cijin Ping, 873 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,399 Speaker 1: she is not making decisions. China has completely taken over 874 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,839 Speaker 1: the Hong Kong government as it's taken over the Hong 875 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 1: Kong Police Force, so talking to her is not really 876 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,360 Speaker 1: a productive and also cijan Ping doesn't want to talk. 877 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 1: He wants to settle this with harsh measures, as we 878 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,839 Speaker 1: have seen over the last several months. Now, what do 879 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,280 Speaker 1: you think that the outcome here is going to be? Gordon? 880 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,360 Speaker 1: I mean, how does this It feels like it's gone 881 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,680 Speaker 1: on for so many months at this point, where does 882 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: his head and how does it end? Yeah? Well, first 883 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 1: of all, protests have gone on since April, and they've 884 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 1: been going on continuously since June, so we're now in 885 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 1: our sixth month. I don't know where this ends, of course, 886 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 1: but there's several outcomes, some of which I think most 887 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,920 Speaker 1: people don't expect. One of them is that the protesters 888 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 1: just outlast China because China itself is fragile, and I 889 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,720 Speaker 1: think that sig Ping, the Chinese ruler, is certainly going 890 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 1: to be held to account for these hardline policies that 891 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 1: have triggered the unrest. So there are any number of 892 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 1: things that could happen, but one of them is and 893 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 1: I think the most likely, is just continued standoff in 894 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 1: Hong Kong. And every time that the protests look like 895 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 1: they're going to peter rat I'm sure Beijing is going 896 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,480 Speaker 1: to do something to enrage people, just as it did 897 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 1: a couple days ago by declaring that the Hong Kong 898 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 1: courts have no jurisdiction to interpret the Basic Law, which 899 00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 1: is Hong Kong's mini constitution as they call it. Possible 900 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 1: off ramp you could see for Hijan Ping to de 901 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 1: escalate the situation without without losing a lot of face. 902 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 1: Is there something feasible or if he were to say, okay, 903 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 1: we're going to reevaluate this and essentially call off the 904 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 1: dogs that you know, it would just look like he's 905 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 1: weak and there could be real ramifications. I mean, is 906 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 1: there an off ramp? You know, there probably is an 907 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 1: off ramp. I don't think it'll be taken, but we 908 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 1: do know that some of the senior officials in the 909 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 1: Hong Kong government privately do not like what's going on, 910 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 1: and sometimes they murmur things in public. So it's possible, 911 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 1: not likely, but it's possible that you could see senior 912 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,960 Speaker 1: Hong Kong government officials try to reach out to the 913 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 1: various parts of the protest movement. For a number of reasons, 914 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 1: I don't think that they will, and I don't think 915 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 1: the protesters will talk to them at this point. So 916 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 1: no likely off ramps in the immediate future. To the 917 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 1: degree that we can tell, and we're speaking to Gordon 918 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:10,480 Speaker 1: changing everybody author of the coming collapse of China, Gordon, 919 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 1: to the degree that that we can tell, or that 920 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 1: you can tell, what is sentiment in mainland China among 921 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 1: just you know, the general Chinese population about what's going 922 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 1: on in Hong Kong. Is there are there pockets of 923 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 1: support for this that could turn into something beyond just 924 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 1: what we see in Hong Kong. Essentially, is is this 925 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 1: going to maybe get a little bit of a wind 926 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,840 Speaker 1: in the sales of some of the pro freedom folks 927 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,640 Speaker 1: inside of China or is that just a fantasy at 928 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 1: this point? That's a great question, Buck. I think their 929 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 1: pockets of support for the Hong Kong protesters inside mainland China, 930 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:56,479 Speaker 1: mostly in Goandong Province, which surrounds Hong Kong um. But 931 00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 1: also I think that people in China by and large 932 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 1: do not sympathize with people from Hong Kong, never have, 933 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 1: probably won't in our lifetimes. But that's not to say 934 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,160 Speaker 1: that protests can't spread into the mainland, because people in 935 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,400 Speaker 1: China got their own grievances, especially related to the economy, 936 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 1: which is in serious trouble book. So it's not growing 937 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 1: at the six point zero percent pace that they claim 938 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 1: for the third quarter. It's more like one percent, maybe 939 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:31,120 Speaker 1: even negative, and that is causing and will cause a 940 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,440 Speaker 1: lot of loss to people who are not accustomed to 941 01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:38,640 Speaker 1: losing money. So, as Arthur Waldron of the University of 942 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:43,240 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania points out, Chinese regimes unravel from the outside in 943 01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 1: Hong Kong is on the periphery of China, and you 944 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,360 Speaker 1: could see the same dynamic occur as we've seen in 945 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:54,840 Speaker 1: the past throughout China's imperial period. So Hong Kong could 946 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 1: be a ticking point that has real ramifications for their regime. 947 01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,919 Speaker 1: How that play out, well, I think it would play 948 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:07,479 Speaker 1: out this way, and that is I would like to think, 949 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:11,240 Speaker 1: and here I'm hoping, probably more than assessing, but I 950 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,480 Speaker 1: would hope to think that Americans would see that they 951 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,760 Speaker 1: have common cause with the protesters in Hong Kong because 952 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 1: the same power that is encroaching on their autonomy China 953 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 1: is also attacking our democracy. And I don't think the 954 01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 1: American political establishment is there yet, but you're starting to 955 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:34,480 Speaker 1: see many voices, especially in the Senate and even some 956 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 1: in the House, that are starting to think that we 957 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 1: need to be much more supportive of people in Hong Kong. 958 01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,240 Speaker 1: There is the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act 959 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:48,360 Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen. It passed the House. It probably will 960 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:53,480 Speaker 1: pass the Senate, both with veto proof majorities, and that 961 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 1: could be the start of a more robust response to China. 962 01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,640 Speaker 1: But I think that we need to stand with the 963 01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:03,120 Speaker 1: kids in Hong Kong argually, because that's our fight. What 964 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 1: what do you think the Trump administration should do? And 965 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 1: how how would you assess how Trump has handled this 966 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 1: so far? Well? I think Trump has handled this in 967 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 1: the way that the American foreign policy establishment has wanted 968 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 1: him to, which is to speak up about it, but 969 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 1: not to do too much, and also to talk to 970 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:28,280 Speaker 1: the Chinese behind the scenes, at which I'm sure has occurred. 971 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:33,520 Speaker 1: Trump I thought The President made a really really good 972 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,840 Speaker 1: comments at his You and General Assembly speech in September. 973 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,880 Speaker 1: He's talked about it in August. He's also spoke about 974 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,440 Speaker 1: it in October. I think we're going to hear more 975 01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:47,280 Speaker 1: from the President on this, largely because this is something 976 01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,560 Speaker 1: that's becoming unavoidable as we're seeing more and more scenes 977 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 1: of what's happening. And I think that, as as I said, 978 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 1: as I hope more people will see this as our 979 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 1: fight as well. So I do see reaganesque comments coming 980 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:06,640 Speaker 1: from President Trump, especially as time progresses. Have you seen 981 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 1: a change? I mean, you're somebody that operates in the 982 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,480 Speaker 1: same echelon as a lot of the folks who are 983 01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,720 Speaker 1: experts on China that go on TV, and I mean 984 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 1: you know those folks, you know what they write. Have 985 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 1: you seen a change in sentiment among the Chinese foreign 986 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:25,600 Speaker 1: policy and a US Chinese foreign policy intelligencia, specifically about 987 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,520 Speaker 1: the trade war, because I mean I remember in the 988 01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,120 Speaker 1: early days of this, it was going to be fire 989 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,840 Speaker 1: and brimstone, and it was crazy, and now we just 990 01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 1: don't hear a lot about it. Gordon, why aren't we 991 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 1: hearing so much about the trade war? Well? I think 992 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,680 Speaker 1: that President Trump has won many of the arguments on 993 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 1: the trade bar when what we call a trade war, 994 01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,800 Speaker 1: I should say, because this is really a broader economic war, 995 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,160 Speaker 1: and indeed it's even a more comprehensive struggle than that. 996 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 1: But put that aside for the moment. People were saying, 997 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, in twenty eighteen, Oh, China's got all the 998 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 1: copper upper hand, It's got all the cards, it's got 999 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:07,200 Speaker 1: more political will, and people has started to look at 1000 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 1: the relationship between China and the United States have seen that. No, 1001 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,920 Speaker 1: when you look at objective factors, the US has almost 1002 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:19,040 Speaker 1: all the high cards. And as a question of political will, 1003 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:23,320 Speaker 1: that's still up in the air because you have President Trump, 1004 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,480 Speaker 1: who has actually, I think played the Chinese very well 1005 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:30,200 Speaker 1: right now. He's taken a strong hand and he has 1006 01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,720 Speaker 1: pushed the Chinese in ways that they probably thought were 1007 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:38,320 Speaker 1: not possible. So I think that's good in terms of 1008 01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:43,720 Speaker 1: the way China watchers look at this, it's become inescapable 1009 01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:48,880 Speaker 1: how bad China has behaved. And so we're starting to see, 1010 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,000 Speaker 1: I think, a new consensus. And if you want to 1011 01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 1: think about any one example in the last week, it's 1012 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,880 Speaker 1: that New York Times revelation of four hundred and three 1013 01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 1: pages of Communist Party documents on the treatment of the 1014 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,600 Speaker 1: Leakers and Cossacks in the northwestern part of China what 1015 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,360 Speaker 1: China call, said John and what the local inhabitants call 1016 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,720 Speaker 1: Chinese occupied East Turk of stand Gordon, changing everybody. Gordon, 1017 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,960 Speaker 1: thanks so much for making the time. We appreciate your expertise. 1018 01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,200 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Buck. We got an update for 1019 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:22,800 Speaker 1: you on the Epstein situation. I don't even know. It's 1020 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 1: not really an investigations. It's a lot of things all 1021 01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:31,800 Speaker 1: tied together. You have the guards who the two guards 1022 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,880 Speaker 1: who apparently fell asleep in the Manhattan Correctional Facility here 1023 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 1: in New York City and Epstein. Then Epstein killed himself 1024 01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,920 Speaker 1: while they were asleep, and they altered the logs somehow 1025 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,520 Speaker 1: to cover up what had happened. And we're supposed to 1026 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,240 Speaker 1: believe it's all a coincidence. I just we're being told 1027 01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,240 Speaker 1: that they fell asleep, it was an accident. Highest proof. 1028 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,880 Speaker 1: I mean, if there was one time in the careers 1029 01:05:55,960 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 1: of these two guards not to fall asleep, it was 1030 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:10,280 Speaker 1: this time, and they fell asleep. I bit strikes me 1031 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:15,880 Speaker 1: as a little coincidental that this happened with this particular 1032 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,840 Speaker 1: prisoner who might have had and now we'll never really 1033 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:25,080 Speaker 1: know information in his head about pedophilia and some of 1034 01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,440 Speaker 1: the most powerful people, wealthy people, influential people in the world. 1035 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:36,640 Speaker 1: It's it's just very coincidental, and I really liked I 1036 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:40,720 Speaker 1: saw a clip from Tucker Carlson's show recently. It was 1037 01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:44,400 Speaker 1: an old clip where he points out that when you 1038 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 1: upset the state, the big s state, if you're Roger Stone, 1039 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,280 Speaker 1: they send squat teams in your house to humiliate you 1040 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:54,720 Speaker 1: and they tip off Sea and remember that one see 1041 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,320 Speaker 1: and I was like, we're just got lucky. What a 1042 01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,320 Speaker 1: bunch of liars. As the place is such a dis grace, 1043 01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:04,840 Speaker 1: it's disgusting. But you know, they humiliated roger Stone, this 1044 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:06,600 Speaker 1: n armed people. They could have just called and said, 1045 01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:10,600 Speaker 1: turn yourself in tomorrow, you're underrest. One hundred percent chance 1046 01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,320 Speaker 1: that Roger Stone would have said, all right, I'll be 1047 01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,320 Speaker 1: in court tomorrow or I'd rather I'll be in the 1048 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,600 Speaker 1: station house or whatever it is tomorrow. But no, No, 1049 01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,400 Speaker 1: they send people in at six am with guns and 1050 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,800 Speaker 1: guns and more guns to terrify him and create a spectacle. 1051 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:27,480 Speaker 1: But Epstein was allowed to turn himself in. Epstein the 1052 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:31,720 Speaker 1: first time around was given the most pampered treatment of 1053 01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:35,360 Speaker 1: anybody you've ever heard of in prison, and he was trafficking. 1054 01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,560 Speaker 1: And I believe over thirty four victims have been identified, 1055 01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 1: young girls. How can anyone look at that part of 1056 01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:49,320 Speaker 1: our system and not say, there's really something wrong here. 1057 01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,400 Speaker 1: Why are we supposed to always be We're supposed to 1058 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,200 Speaker 1: be quiet and believe this system is good and fair, 1059 01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:00,960 Speaker 1: And there's no only, by the way, when the system 1060 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,920 Speaker 1: is crushing Republicans all the time, and then the system 1061 01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,680 Speaker 1: is great. But we see what goes on here with Epstein, 1062 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 1: and and we're told, well, no, you have to believe it. 1063 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:11,800 Speaker 1: You have to think that they knew what they were 1064 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,320 Speaker 1: doing here somehow. And if you ask too many questions 1065 01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:18,600 Speaker 1: about who in power influenced this whole process, then you 1066 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:26,280 Speaker 1: are a conspiracy theorist. No, I don't think so. I 1067 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,920 Speaker 1: don't think that's the case at all. I'm still wondering 1068 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,799 Speaker 1: when there'll be more information, more evidence out there about Epstein. 1069 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,840 Speaker 1: By the way, the British Royal Prince Andrew, right, that's 1070 01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,559 Speaker 1: the one, the second son of Queen Elizabeth. He his 1071 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:46,400 Speaker 1: pr director or whatever the guy's title was resigned before 1072 01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,920 Speaker 1: the BBC interview, so clearly he knew that this was 1073 01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,000 Speaker 1: not going to go well, and yet he did that 1074 01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:58,439 Speaker 1: interview anyway, and then you, I mean, it's it's still 1075 01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:03,240 Speaker 1: pretty stunning to me that there's not more curiosity among 1076 01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,439 Speaker 1: journalists with so many of these pieces out there. And 1077 01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's because they're they really they know. 1078 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,120 Speaker 1: There's a there's a sense that they know that digging 1079 01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,320 Speaker 1: too deep with the Epstein thing could lead to places 1080 01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,439 Speaker 1: that a lot of lib journals just don't want to go. 1081 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,400 Speaker 1: Forget about all the underage victims for the lib journals, 1082 01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,640 Speaker 1: that's not that's not worth the risk here if it 1083 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:27,680 Speaker 1: could really damage one political party a whole lot. All right, 1084 01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,800 Speaker 1: welcome back. I know, team, we've talked about the impeachment 1085 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:32,560 Speaker 1: stuff for quite a bit today. I don't want to 1086 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:36,160 Speaker 1: spend too much time on it. We've I just there's 1087 01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,040 Speaker 1: a there's a couple couple of things I wanted to 1088 01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:39,680 Speaker 1: throw in the mix, and then we'll move on to 1089 01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,519 Speaker 1: some other stuff too that I did not get to before. 1090 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:47,320 Speaker 1: One is the the clear theatrics of this Vinman fellow. 1091 01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:51,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he really is auditioning for an MSNBC contributor role. 1092 01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:55,080 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt about it. Here is 1093 01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,960 Speaker 1: what he said. He's testifying about this in front of Congress, 1094 01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,120 Speaker 1: and and you know, break out the world's smallest violin 1095 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:06,639 Speaker 1: for this guy. Play it please, Dad. I'm sitting here 1096 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:10,160 Speaker 1: today in the US capital talking to our elected professionals. 1097 01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,320 Speaker 1: Is proof that you made the right decision forty years 1098 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,240 Speaker 1: ago to leave the Soviet Union come here to the 1099 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,599 Speaker 1: United States of America in search of a better life 1100 01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,240 Speaker 1: for our family. Do not worry. I will be fine 1101 01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:26,280 Speaker 1: for telling the truth. Oh why are we even hearing 1102 01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:31,280 Speaker 1: about this? Why is he's bringing up his father? Who's 1103 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:35,720 Speaker 1: talking about? What is? This is ridiculous. We can't know 1104 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,400 Speaker 1: who the whistleblower is. This guy's gonna tell us about, 1105 01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,920 Speaker 1: you know, his life story and his family history, and 1106 01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,400 Speaker 1: break out the handkerchiefs for all the tears and the 1107 01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,599 Speaker 1: whole thing. And oh, you know, mister president, I don't 1108 01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,760 Speaker 1: dance you know his Jack Ryan moment. And how dare 1109 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,800 Speaker 1: are you coming here and bark it me like some 1110 01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,800 Speaker 1: kind of junkyard dog. I am the President of the 1111 01:10:55,920 --> 01:11:02,759 Speaker 1: United States. Sorry, mister President, I don't dance the old 1112 01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:07,360 Speaker 1: Potomac two step Jack. It's the best scene in that movie. Man, 1113 01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:11,080 Speaker 1: It's great. There's that clear present danger, so much better 1114 01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:15,240 Speaker 1: than the Jack Ryan Amazon show. Somebody should really find 1115 01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,040 Speaker 1: the Jack Ryan Amazon people and be like, you need 1116 01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:18,680 Speaker 1: to talk to Buck Sexty. I'll help you. See your 1117 01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,200 Speaker 1: third season doesn't doesn't stink because right now your your 1118 01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,880 Speaker 1: second season's garbage anyway, So yeah, we we. When I 1119 01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,160 Speaker 1: talked to you about the theatrics and stuff from Vinman, 1120 01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:30,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm just referring to what exactly was 1121 01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,760 Speaker 1: going on here, which is Vinman is like, oh, you know, 1122 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:38,280 Speaker 1: look at me, I'm speaking the truth about this. In 1123 01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,639 Speaker 1: some ways, Vinman was really the origin of this whole thing, 1124 01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:44,000 Speaker 1: right He's he clearly told somebody who concocted the whole 1125 01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,360 Speaker 1: whistleblower scheme. But you know, Vinman was one who was like, 1126 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,920 Speaker 1: I'm so troubled by this because he was upset that 1127 01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:54,000 Speaker 1: there would be a lack of bipartisan consensus on on 1128 01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:59,160 Speaker 1: Ukraine policy. And also, I do think it's worth pointing 1129 01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,800 Speaker 1: out as we go through this, who really cares that 1130 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,840 Speaker 1: much about Ukraine in this country? I mean, let's be 1131 01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:06,800 Speaker 1: real here for a second. I'm not saying it doesn't 1132 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:10,360 Speaker 1: matter at all, but this is not a core national 1133 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:14,320 Speaker 1: security interests of the United States. It's just not. But 1134 01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, all Ukraine policy if we get it wrong there, 1135 01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 1: I mean Obama got every foreign policy question wrong for 1136 01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:23,080 Speaker 1: all years, wrong on everything wrong and maybe wrong on 1137 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,559 Speaker 1: Syria wrong, and a rock wrong in Afghanistan wrong. Just 1138 01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:31,160 Speaker 1: go through a country? Was anyone? Oh my gosh, Obama's 1139 01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:35,840 Speaker 1: foreign policy decision making is not within the interagency consensus. 1140 01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:41,360 Speaker 1: Who cares? You know, we're all supposed to care. We're 1141 01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:45,160 Speaker 1: all supposed to think that this is um, it's great. 1142 01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,080 Speaker 1: Any let's go, let's switch into oh wait, no, no, 1143 01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:51,360 Speaker 1: there's one more, there's one more. My man, my man, jacketless. 1144 01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:55,400 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan. He he had a moment where he got 1145 01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:59,320 Speaker 1: to expose once again that they're someone's lying and I 1146 01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,880 Speaker 1: think we almost lying. But someone's lying about the whistle 1147 01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,560 Speaker 1: blower and knowing the identity of it. Because here's that 1148 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:08,879 Speaker 1: would play play Jim Jordan, please, mister Jordan on call readout. 1149 01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,760 Speaker 1: Certainly after the first call, there were probably a half 1150 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,920 Speaker 1: a dozen or more people that I read out. Those 1151 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:18,240 Speaker 1: are people with the proper clearance and that the need 1152 01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,240 Speaker 1: to know in this case because of the sensitivity of 1153 01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,000 Speaker 1: the call, and mister Eisenberg told me not to speak 1154 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,640 Speaker 1: to anybody else. I only read out outside of the 1155 01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:31,000 Speaker 1: NFC two individuals, two individuals das Kent and one other person. 1156 01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:32,599 Speaker 1: And you're not willing to tell us who that other 1157 01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:36,439 Speaker 1: individual is. Mister Chairman. Point of order, Mister chairman. Mister chairman, 1158 01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:40,240 Speaker 1: point of order, gentle wis suspend counsel. Uh. Mister Chairman, 1159 01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:45,360 Speaker 1: I would ask you to enforce the rule with regard 1160 01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:49,040 Speaker 1: to the disclosure with regard to the intelligence songs. UM. 1161 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,639 Speaker 1: Thank you, counsel. You know, as I indicated before this committee, 1162 01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,439 Speaker 1: will not be used to out the whistle blower. Um 1163 01:13:55,600 --> 01:14:02,040 Speaker 1: that same Chairman, don't lose you are recognized again, mister Jordan. 1164 01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,880 Speaker 1: Mister Chairman, I don't see how this is outing the whistleblower. 1165 01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,519 Speaker 1: That the witness has testified in his deposition that he 1166 01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,840 Speaker 1: doesn't know who the whistle blower is. You have said, 1167 01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,360 Speaker 1: even though no one believes you, you have said you 1168 01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,680 Speaker 1: don't know who the whistle blower is. So how is 1169 01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,920 Speaker 1: this outing the whistle blower to find out who this 1170 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,720 Speaker 1: individual is? Jordan, this is your time for questioning. You 1171 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:23,639 Speaker 1: can use it and we like, but your question should 1172 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,639 Speaker 1: be addressed to the one liked, and your questions should 1173 01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,200 Speaker 1: not be addressed to trying to out the whistle blower. Okay, okay, 1174 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,799 Speaker 1: Notice how Chiff can't answer that question. Chief is ruling 1175 01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:37,320 Speaker 1: on this. They're giving this witness some kind of special 1176 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,960 Speaker 1: immunity from answering a question based on the premise that 1177 01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:42,800 Speaker 1: it could be outing a whistle blower that they say 1178 01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:46,719 Speaker 1: they don't even know who the whistle blower is. Now 1179 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,920 Speaker 1: we're not idiots. Clearly, what they are trying to do 1180 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:55,240 Speaker 1: is just create a fig leaf, create a facade of 1181 01:14:55,320 --> 01:15:00,920 Speaker 1: not knowing that what happened here was the what was 1182 01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,559 Speaker 1: was Vinman was all a Homer Cash who brought up Biden. 1183 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,920 Speaker 1: We got to protect Biden. Biden, who's going to bring 1184 01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,759 Speaker 1: back the establishment and he'll be great for this country. 1185 01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,720 Speaker 1: And he talked one of Biden's little buddies in the 1186 01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:18,400 Speaker 1: in the deep state, reportedly this fellow Eric Charmela, but 1187 01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:25,439 Speaker 1: we don't know officially. And then the whistleblower must be 1188 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,840 Speaker 1: the person that was told about the call. And then 1189 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,880 Speaker 1: he came up with this idea of well, I'll use 1190 01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,000 Speaker 1: the you know, the interagency process and go to the 1191 01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,960 Speaker 1: Inspector General and maintain anonymity through it and through it, 1192 01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,960 Speaker 1: and that way we can talk about this and not 1193 01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:45,599 Speaker 1: worry about leaking classified information, etc. Etc. Obviously, that's why 1194 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,280 Speaker 1: they won't tell us who he told about the phone 1195 01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,559 Speaker 1: call and the claim that this person had a need 1196 01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,040 Speaker 1: to know. I would I mean, I can't know, because 1197 01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:54,840 Speaker 1: I don't know who the person was, but I would 1198 01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:58,880 Speaker 1: almost certainly tell you that is false, almost certainly tell 1199 01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:00,760 Speaker 1: you that that is a lie. Now, need to know 1200 01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,360 Speaker 1: is always there's a bit of discretion and gray area. Well, 1201 01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,200 Speaker 1: who really has a need to know? You've got to 1202 01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:08,360 Speaker 1: have the clearance. That's the legal groundwork for this right. 1203 01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,840 Speaker 1: You can't tell someone something classified unless they have a 1204 01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:16,400 Speaker 1: clearance for that level of information. But beyond that, need 1205 01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:20,719 Speaker 1: to know is always a but I'm telling you, in reality, 1206 01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,280 Speaker 1: I gotta haven't need to know. He's like an anti Trumper, 1207 01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,599 Speaker 1: and Vinman knew that he could all spun up about 1208 01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,519 Speaker 1: this and that they would come up with some some 1209 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:32,040 Speaker 1: scheme to use this as a grounds for impeaching the president. 1210 01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean impeaching the presence they're gonna do it on 1211 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:43,320 Speaker 1: this people are out of their minds. All right, I'll 1212 01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,840 Speaker 1: I just there was some some left in the cutting 1213 01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:47,559 Speaker 1: room floor from before that I wanted to get to 1214 01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:51,040 Speaker 1: here on the stuff. But let's talk about democrats and 1215 01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:56,519 Speaker 1: they're crazy. Uh oh wait, wait wait, wait, wait, hold on, 1216 01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:02,240 Speaker 1: there's one more thing. Speaking of those who talk to 1217 01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,120 Speaker 1: us like we're idiots and like we can't figure anything 1218 01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:10,200 Speaker 1: else out. CNN hired Andy McCabe, the former acting FBI 1219 01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:14,400 Speaker 1: director who was at the center of all these shenanigans 1220 01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:17,280 Speaker 1: with you know, Comey and the special Counsel and getting 1221 01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:21,439 Speaker 1: all the Russia collusion nonsense laundered through the f behind 1222 01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,800 Speaker 1: the DJ to make it seem like it was legitimate. 1223 01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,799 Speaker 1: McCabe lied under oath multiple times. He lied about leaking, 1224 01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:30,960 Speaker 1: leaking that not only he was guilty of, but also 1225 01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:34,600 Speaker 1: that he was blaming subordinates for that's the kind of 1226 01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:38,840 Speaker 1: guy he is. How dare you leaked information that I 1227 01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:42,280 Speaker 1: actually secretly leaked myself. You're lucky I don't fire you 1228 01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,680 Speaker 1: for doing the thing that I actually did. That's who 1229 01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:46,680 Speaker 1: Andy McCabe is. So before they do the whole Oh, 1230 01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:51,840 Speaker 1: he's America's last best boy scout. He's amazing enough about that, 1231 01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,040 Speaker 1: but CNN hired him right away because if your hashtag resistance, 1232 01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,360 Speaker 1: you know, you can go to CNN and they'll pay 1233 01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,519 Speaker 1: you and they'll take care of you. And you know 1234 01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:03,040 Speaker 1: that's what goes on over there. But here's what McCabe 1235 01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:08,559 Speaker 1: says about the folks in the federal bureaucracy and the 1236 01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,439 Speaker 1: way that they It's just never about politics, he tells 1237 01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:14,599 Speaker 1: us play at twenty police. We don't know in the FBI. 1238 01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:16,960 Speaker 1: We don't ask each other our political beliefs, we don't 1239 01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,800 Speaker 1: talk about political issues. I think there is, of course 1240 01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:24,280 Speaker 1: no deep state. There is no resistance within the bureaucracy 1241 01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,559 Speaker 1: across the government agencies pushing against this president. But what 1242 01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:31,640 Speaker 1: there is in that bureaucracy are thousands and thousands of 1243 01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:33,800 Speaker 1: men and women who are committed to the rule of law. 1244 01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,080 Speaker 1: And we now have an administration that frequently finds itself 1245 01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,800 Speaker 1: bumping up against those laws that we rely on to 1246 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:43,559 Speaker 1: govern this country. And so when people across government stand 1247 01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:46,880 Speaker 1: up for those rules and point out those transgressions, we 1248 01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:51,200 Speaker 1: see how they're treated by this president and by his administration. Nice, 1249 01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:55,240 Speaker 1: sanctimonious monologue going here, what are the laws that he 1250 01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,759 Speaker 1: brushed up against? By the way, what are those laws? 1251 01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:03,120 Speaker 1: Laws like the one that Sally Yates said that was 1252 01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,120 Speaker 1: being violated when she refused a lawful order from the President, 1253 01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,559 Speaker 1: and the Supreme Court had to say actually acting at 1254 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:12,080 Speaker 1: Trinity General, maybe learn, maybe learn what the statute says 1255 01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,280 Speaker 1: before you decide you're not going to do something because 1256 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:18,719 Speaker 1: you don't like it. Who's really lawless? The people who 1257 01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,200 Speaker 1: and it must have been a small circle and it 1258 01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:26,439 Speaker 1: was Obama pointees most likely folks who leaked highly classified 1259 01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,439 Speaker 1: information about General Flynt's phone called the Washington Post and 1260 01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,559 Speaker 1: an effort to take him down. That's a felony. So 1261 01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,000 Speaker 1: who are those Those are those people who are just 1262 01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,479 Speaker 1: trying to do their best to obey the rule of 1263 01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,559 Speaker 1: law and the thousands and thousands of men of women. 1264 01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,680 Speaker 1: What about Annie McCabe, Why would he lie under oath 1265 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:50,360 Speaker 1: to the Inspector General of the FBI. I thought Annie 1266 01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:53,200 Speaker 1: McCabe apparently brushes up against the law. Isn't that weird? 1267 01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,960 Speaker 1: He has problems staying with the law. As the f 1268 01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:06,519 Speaker 1: BE Eye director, I am FPI agent. You've never seen 1269 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:14,080 Speaker 1: a point break, have you? I have not, dude, you're 1270 01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:20,000 Speaker 1: totally missing out. Keanu Reeves better. A Rourke sounded a 1271 01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:23,559 Speaker 1: little bit alike. I prefer Jack Bower. It's probably a 1272 01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:27,960 Speaker 1: better show. So anyway, you got deep state McCabe telling 1273 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,960 Speaker 1: you there is no deep state. What a surprise. By 1274 01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:34,839 Speaker 1: the way, he's gotta get criminally prosecuted, folks. He lied, 1275 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:39,120 Speaker 1: he lied under oath. They're gonna go after. They're gonna 1276 01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,760 Speaker 1: writ to Roger Stone, they gotta go after McCabe. You know, 1277 01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:43,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to criminal law, forget about the whole 1278 01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:47,479 Speaker 1: cultural wokeness social justice stuff for a second. I mean, 1279 01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, do we have to live under the rules 1280 01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:50,760 Speaker 1: that they make? Well, that's really hard because they change 1281 01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,240 Speaker 1: your rules all the time. We can't allow that with 1282 01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:55,639 Speaker 1: criminal law. The law is gonna be the law. That's 1283 01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:57,800 Speaker 1: the way this is gonna have to go. But I 1284 01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:01,280 Speaker 1: love CNN brings on CNN on McCabe to talk about 1285 01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,080 Speaker 1: the absence of the deep state. Is just like CNN 1286 01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:08,599 Speaker 1: this past weekend bringing on Dan Rather, the original king 1287 01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:12,880 Speaker 1: of fake news, for using falsified documents to try to 1288 01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:17,400 Speaker 1: throw a presidential election. They use him to talk about 1289 01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:23,519 Speaker 1: truth and accuracy in the media. These people have neither 1290 01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,120 Speaker 1: a sense of shame nor a sense of irony. His 1291 01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:31,400 Speaker 1: inability to say words sometimes worries me tremendously. He is 1292 01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,599 Speaker 1: having trouble word finding. When he said to United Esh 1293 01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,599 Speaker 1: instead of United States. These aren't words he signed slips 1294 01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,479 Speaker 1: of the tongue. These are words. He can't find them. 1295 01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,240 Speaker 1: And this is happening over and over again. Comedians joke 1296 01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,000 Speaker 1: about it, but it's not a joking matter. I think 1297 01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:49,840 Speaker 1: there is a neurological issue that is not being addressed. 1298 01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,519 Speaker 1: And if he had an MRI of his head over there, 1299 01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:55,320 Speaker 1: I would be very pleased, because I think he needs 1300 01:21:56,200 --> 01:22:00,879 Speaker 1: CNN puts on air here, this is a this is amazing. 1301 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:08,640 Speaker 1: You really cannot make this stuff up. CNN puts on 1302 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:14,200 Speaker 1: air a doctor, doctor David Shiner, who was apparently Obama's 1303 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:18,519 Speaker 1: former doctor I see here on our sheet, who is 1304 01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:24,120 Speaker 1: giving life once again to the theory that Trump is insane. 1305 01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:28,200 Speaker 1: I mean, actually, like not of sound mind is either 1306 01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,800 Speaker 1: senile or suffering from dementia, has gone crazy. You know, 1307 01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,840 Speaker 1: they even tried they tried this against Reagan too, by 1308 01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:35,599 Speaker 1: the way, you'll remember that that was what they were 1309 01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:40,240 Speaker 1: saying about Reagan. But now they're saying it about Trump. Uh, 1310 01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:45,559 Speaker 1: at what point do you think they feel silly running 1311 01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:49,439 Speaker 1: the playbook so many times in a way that's so 1312 01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:53,759 Speaker 1: obvious what they're doing right there there there once again, 1313 01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,120 Speaker 1: here we are with all maybe we got to remove 1314 01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:58,320 Speaker 1: Trump with the twenty fifth amendments. You know, they're they're 1315 01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:03,040 Speaker 1: starting this whole thing again based on slurred words. If 1316 01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:06,320 Speaker 1: slurred words are going to be taken as evidence for 1317 01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:10,680 Speaker 1: a doctor to diagnose from a far which is by 1318 01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:13,840 Speaker 1: the way, not a smart thing to do on national TV, 1319 01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,120 Speaker 1: on a cable news network, If slurring words gonna be 1320 01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:21,800 Speaker 1: a problem, what do they think of Joe Biden? Well, 1321 01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:27,519 Speaker 1: that's gurgling, gurgen. But you know, I just want to 1322 01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,479 Speaker 1: know why don't they have somebody on CNN diagnosing Joe 1323 01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:35,360 Speaker 1: Biden's mental health forgets where he is, says really stupid 1324 01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,080 Speaker 1: things that no one can believe. How dumb it is 1325 01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,559 Speaker 1: what he said. I mean, you know, confuses things that 1326 01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:43,719 Speaker 1: are not close together. I mean, really, not only Trump, 1327 01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:49,840 Speaker 1: but CNN's unbiased only idiots really believe that. Now there's 1328 01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:53,800 Speaker 1: a mentality among the CNN audience that I'm familiar with, 1329 01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:57,320 Speaker 1: where they they like to think that the people they're 1330 01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,280 Speaker 1: watching are the smart, good people, and therefore are the 1331 01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:04,720 Speaker 1: real journalists. So they know that there is really no 1332 01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:08,320 Speaker 1: Santa Claus that CNN is a partisan organization. It is 1333 01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,880 Speaker 1: a wing of the Democratic Party now and it does 1334 01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,519 Speaker 1: Democrat left wing bidding all the time, all day long 1335 01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:19,200 Speaker 1: on air. But they still like to cling to that 1336 01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:23,000 Speaker 1: pleasant fiction that maybe they really are just journalists over there. 1337 01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,280 Speaker 1: So the CNN audience will never, will never flee from 1338 01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:27,040 Speaker 1: them because they're doing what they want them to do. 1339 01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:31,840 Speaker 1: They're they're playing out this this myth in real time. 1340 01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:35,400 Speaker 1: But CNN is the real, honest, good place where the 1341 01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:42,440 Speaker 1: journalist stuff happens. But you know, this, this whole impeachment 1342 01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,479 Speaker 1: for us, unfortunately, is going to Oh wait, we got 1343 01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:49,160 Speaker 1: Senator Patrick Lahey here talking about how there's witness intimidation 1344 01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:50,880 Speaker 1: with the tweet. Is that what this is? This is 1345 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:53,160 Speaker 1: this is going to be amazing. Play clib ten place 1346 01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:54,960 Speaker 1: if you will. If I could ask you, how do 1347 01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:58,040 Speaker 1: you think the impeachment and choired testimonies aren't going well? 1348 01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:02,040 Speaker 1: You know, the Closed Doors had Republicans and Democrats there. 1349 01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:05,240 Speaker 1: I think some of the Republicans thought they could pull 1350 01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:09,720 Speaker 1: the press by claiming we want to be in that room. Well, 1351 01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:12,760 Speaker 1: of course there are Republicans in that room, and I 1352 01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:16,040 Speaker 1: think it stopped the theatrics go down. This is a 1353 01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:19,599 Speaker 1: very serious thing. Where the things the ambassador, she said 1354 01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:24,040 Speaker 1: the other day, and then had the president tweet to 1355 01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:29,200 Speaker 1: try to intimidate her. I was a prosecutor for eight years. 1356 01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:31,840 Speaker 1: I know an intimidation. What did you think when she 1357 01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,680 Speaker 1: said that she felt threatened by that call? When I 1358 01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,360 Speaker 1: was a prosecutor, I would have thought I would have 1359 01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:44,479 Speaker 1: called that witness tam Park procuter or I don't know 1360 01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:51,559 Speaker 1: a witness. These politicians, you know, they really some of 1361 01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:53,720 Speaker 1: them would just they'd be doing all of us such 1362 01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:56,360 Speaker 1: a favor if they would, uh, you know, give it up, 1363 01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,360 Speaker 1: go spend time with their families, you know, go help 1364 01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,280 Speaker 1: out in their commune. And he's volunteer, do stuff where 1365 01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:03,000 Speaker 1: you don't have cameras on you all the time, or 1366 01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:08,759 Speaker 1: urban mumbling for fifty years, rum mumble for another fifty years, 1367 01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:13,439 Speaker 1: or no serious legal analyst with any intelligence whatsoever really 1368 01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,680 Speaker 1: thinks that it was witness intimidation for the president to 1369 01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:18,479 Speaker 1: tweet out that this person is bad at her job. 1370 01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:21,639 Speaker 1: That's an opinion. If the president no longer has First 1371 01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,080 Speaker 1: Amendment rights because someone is going to testify against him. 1372 01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:26,400 Speaker 1: I'd like to know how they're going to actually enforce 1373 01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:31,640 Speaker 1: these rules, but there are there is no universal applicability 1374 01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:35,800 Speaker 1: of the rules Democrats are always applying against Trump. It's 1375 01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,479 Speaker 1: never okay the standard we've created for him is now 1376 01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:42,320 Speaker 1: going to be the standard, because it's either so in 1377 01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:45,960 Speaker 1: violation of legal and constitutional norms that it would be 1378 01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,479 Speaker 1: it would be preposterous, or even beyond that, they just 1379 01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:53,439 Speaker 1: have no chance of of realistically speaking, they have they 1380 01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:56,920 Speaker 1: have no chance of using it as a means to 1381 01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:00,360 Speaker 1: test their own side. They just won't do it anyway. 1382 01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:04,759 Speaker 1: I find uh yeah, Patrick said her Patrick leahy Man. 1383 01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:08,040 Speaker 1: Democratic parties not sending us their best, that's for sure. 1384 01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:09,800 Speaker 1: Or maybe this is their best. The people who are 1385 01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:18,360 Speaker 1: the most morally pliable, dishonest and just they're relentless, stop 1386 01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,920 Speaker 1: at nothing pursuit of power. I suppose the Democrats have 1387 01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:24,960 Speaker 1: stacked their stacked their roster with people who fall into 1388 01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,960 Speaker 1: that category, and maybe that makes them happen. Colin Kaepernick 1389 01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:33,840 Speaker 1: is making headlines again. So this guy from the people 1390 01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:35,360 Speaker 1: that I know, and I have brothers who know a 1391 01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,240 Speaker 1: lot about football. I don't know that much about football. 1392 01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Mark you know about what is the 1393 01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:43,479 Speaker 1: Kaepernick situation here? Just bring everybody up to speed from 1394 01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:47,200 Speaker 1: what is this guy doing now? Like what happened this recently? 1395 01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,760 Speaker 1: So last week around Tuesday, the NFL said they were 1396 01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:53,240 Speaker 1: going to give him a workout, and a lot of 1397 01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:55,360 Speaker 1: people think that it was something part of some sort 1398 01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:57,879 Speaker 1: of settlement with between him in the league. So Saturday 1399 01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,320 Speaker 1: was supposed to the workout at the Falcons facility that's 1400 01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:03,439 Speaker 1: the old team in Atlanta for those people who are 1401 01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:07,479 Speaker 1: not two up on football, and they couldn't agree on Basically, 1402 01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:11,200 Speaker 1: Kaepernick wanted his own film crew there, but the NFL 1403 01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,519 Speaker 1: was just going to use the Falcons film crew and 1404 01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:17,240 Speaker 1: then distribute it to everybody, all thirty two NFL teams. 1405 01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:20,679 Speaker 1: Kaepernick didn't like that. He wanted an independent film crew 1406 01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:22,880 Speaker 1: and he wanted it open to the media. So he 1407 01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:26,519 Speaker 1: ended up doing his own his own workout an hour 1408 01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:30,200 Speaker 1: later than the NFL's mandated workout at a high school, 1409 01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:33,680 Speaker 1: open to the media and all that. What do you 1410 01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:36,360 Speaker 1: think is I mean, was this just for the spectacle? Why? Why? 1411 01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:39,080 Speaker 1: I think it's just two parties that can't agree on 1412 01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:42,240 Speaker 1: anything two that wanted to one up each other. I mean, 1413 01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:44,280 Speaker 1: does this Does anyone really even think that this guy 1414 01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:46,120 Speaker 1: would come back in the league, And I mean he 1415 01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:47,840 Speaker 1: was wasn't here. I don't think he wants to come 1416 01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:49,360 Speaker 1: back in the league at this point. I think this 1417 01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:53,000 Speaker 1: is all a spectacle. I just I don't even understand 1418 01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:54,880 Speaker 1: how this guy is managing to still be in the 1419 01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:56,600 Speaker 1: news cycle that he is. And I mean, I know 1420 01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:59,439 Speaker 1: he's woken and social justice and he's created this whole 1421 01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,439 Speaker 1: your character of you know that that the TV that 1422 01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:05,960 Speaker 1: the TV viewing audience I suppose is interested in. And 1423 01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:09,160 Speaker 1: he's now something of a martyr for social justice because 1424 01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:12,320 Speaker 1: he took a knee, did wear pigs in cop uniform. 1425 01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,880 Speaker 1: So I haven't forgotten about that one. But here we 1426 01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:18,559 Speaker 1: could we could hear from it. We have. We've got 1427 01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:21,400 Speaker 1: a Kaepernick clip somewhere along here. Where are you go? 1428 01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:23,360 Speaker 1: Let's hear what this gentleman does? He gonn play it. 1429 01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:27,040 Speaker 1: I've been ready for three years. I've been denied for 1430 01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,720 Speaker 1: three years. We all know why I came out here, 1431 01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,160 Speaker 1: showed it today in front of everybody. We have nothing 1432 01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:35,200 Speaker 1: to hide, So we're waiting for the thirty two owners, 1433 01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:39,200 Speaker 1: thirty two teams, Roger Goodell, all of them to stop running, 1434 01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:42,120 Speaker 1: Stop running from the truth, stop running from the people. 1435 01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,640 Speaker 1: We're out here, We're ready to play, We're ready to 1436 01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,519 Speaker 1: go anywhere. My agent, Jeff Nally, is ready to talk 1437 01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:51,719 Speaker 1: to any team. I interview with any team at any time. 1438 01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:55,400 Speaker 1: I've been ready. I'm staying ready, and I'll continue to 1439 01:29:55,439 --> 01:30:00,599 Speaker 1: be ready. What if he's just not good enough? Does 1440 01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:02,320 Speaker 1: that ever? Does that ever a factor into the car? 1441 01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:04,599 Speaker 1: What if he's gotten a little older, a little slower, 1442 01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:07,479 Speaker 1: and he's actually just not good enough and he's a 1443 01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,200 Speaker 1: prima donna and would be a big pain in the 1444 01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:12,839 Speaker 1: neck for any team to deal with. Isn't that possible, 1445 01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:15,599 Speaker 1: Producer Mark, Yeah, He's not a good enough NFL player 1446 01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,599 Speaker 1: to be warranting that kind of distraction in the locker room. 1447 01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,639 Speaker 1: If he was Tom Brady, if he was Aaron Rodgers, 1448 01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:23,840 Speaker 1: a player to that level, a Hall of Fame type player, 1449 01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:27,240 Speaker 1: any owner would sign him because winning is everything. But 1450 01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:31,120 Speaker 1: Kaepernick isn't that great of a quarterback to have the 1451 01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,360 Speaker 1: distraction that it would be at this point in the 1452 01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:35,720 Speaker 1: locker room, and the potential that you have half the 1453 01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,600 Speaker 1: locker room that won't agree with him, and half that 1454 01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:41,240 Speaker 1: will agree with him, and that'll fracture a locker room, 1455 01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:43,879 Speaker 1: which kills the season. And wasn't there a player recently 1456 01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:47,519 Speaker 1: who was like a troublemaker and someone signed him and 1457 01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:48,760 Speaker 1: they had to get rid of him right away? I 1458 01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,240 Speaker 1: forget what this will? Oh? Antonio Brown? Yes, yeah, yeah, 1459 01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:54,320 Speaker 1: what happened with him? Well, the Patriots are a different animal. 1460 01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,800 Speaker 1: You didn't. You know, Belichick keeps a very tight ship 1461 01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:59,240 Speaker 1: and Antonio Brown's a little bit of a mental case, 1462 01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:01,960 Speaker 1: but he's a great player. But they released him immediately 1463 01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,760 Speaker 1: because he wasn't conforming to Patriot standards, right. So he 1464 01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:06,120 Speaker 1: came in and he was like, I'm gonna do it 1465 01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:07,760 Speaker 1: my way and they were like you're out. Yes, And 1466 01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:11,479 Speaker 1: now there are also rape allegations against him. Well that's 1467 01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:14,439 Speaker 1: a that's that's the other reason nobody has signed him since. 1468 01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:18,479 Speaker 1: Ah yeah, okay, well there you go, if you like. 1469 01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:20,000 Speaker 1: I knew there's something going on there. Oh, but we 1470 01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:21,760 Speaker 1: we got to switch gears here because I promised we 1471 01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:24,160 Speaker 1: talked about this um at the top of the show. 1472 01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:30,400 Speaker 1: Fart Gate, Dun Dun dune. It's a thing. It was 1473 01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:34,920 Speaker 1: blowing up on social media last night. It was shaking 1474 01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:43,240 Speaker 1: the room even I know it was explosive. This was 1475 01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:49,840 Speaker 1: MSNBC's Chris Matthews talking to Eric Swalwell. Is this childish? 1476 01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:51,560 Speaker 1: Is it worthy of the Bucks Act and Show to 1477 01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:53,960 Speaker 1: discuss this? I don't know, but it was a big 1478 01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:56,639 Speaker 1: news story last night. I don't make the rules. This 1479 01:31:56,680 --> 01:32:01,800 Speaker 1: is how the exchange went audio on my friends taxpayer 1480 01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:04,960 Speaker 1: dollars to ask the Ukrainians to help him cheat an election. 1481 01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:15,000 Speaker 1: It's so childish. I know, it's so dumb. Oh man. Yeah, 1482 01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,400 Speaker 1: it came across loud and clear though we all know 1483 01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:20,920 Speaker 1: what that was. We all know what it was. And 1484 01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:24,640 Speaker 1: then you had the you know, amateur detectives, the various 1485 01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:30,280 Speaker 1: sleuths online who were all taking to taking to social 1486 01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:36,360 Speaker 1: media to indicate what they whether it was whoever whoever 1487 01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,479 Speaker 1: smelt it, dealt it, or whoever denied it supplied it. 1488 01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:44,479 Speaker 1: I swell, well, if you look at the video, he 1489 01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:47,320 Speaker 1: kind of pauses for a second, and so people initially 1490 01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:51,160 Speaker 1: were suggesting that that was the that was the moment 1491 01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:52,960 Speaker 1: of recognition that he just let it, He just let 1492 01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:57,400 Speaker 1: one rip, He just let a let a stinky sneeze 1493 01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:02,600 Speaker 1: go on air and then people were saying, but no, 1494 01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:06,479 Speaker 1: it might have been Chris Matthews that did this, because 1495 01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:09,479 Speaker 1: Chris Matthews was deadline and I don't know, you get 1496 01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:13,720 Speaker 1: the lav mic the lav mic would it pick up 1497 01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:16,800 Speaker 1: that ambient noise? But that was on a national TV hit, 1498 01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:18,960 Speaker 1: And I can tell you that some things, you know, 1499 01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:22,320 Speaker 1: some things do happen when you're doing live TV. I'll 1500 01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:25,360 Speaker 1: never forget once Judge Ni Piro, who's who's great, a 1501 01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:27,160 Speaker 1: lot of fun, but she had me on her show 1502 01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:29,200 Speaker 1: and she was wearing a dress and I was wearing 1503 01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:32,240 Speaker 1: a suit, and under the lights on that show, I'm 1504 01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:34,200 Speaker 1: telling you, it was like one hundred and five degrees 1505 01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:40,000 Speaker 1: and I started sweating and sweating and sweating, and every 1506 01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:41,960 Speaker 1: time they would go away from me to her or 1507 01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:43,280 Speaker 1: a clip, I could see in the monitor and I 1508 01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:45,640 Speaker 1: would just take flop sweat off my forehead and just 1509 01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:47,640 Speaker 1: fling it across the room because it looked like I 1510 01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:49,679 Speaker 1: was in the midst of some kind of panic attack. 1511 01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:51,320 Speaker 1: I was actually just really hot, because it's really hot 1512 01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:55,120 Speaker 1: on those lights, so stuff can happen. But Swallowell is 1513 01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:56,640 Speaker 1: not gonna live this one down for a while. I 1514 01:33:56,640 --> 01:34:02,640 Speaker 1: will say that noise was really a perfect SoundBite encapsulation 1515 01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:07,479 Speaker 1: of his abandoned primary campaign. So there's that producer, Mark, 1516 01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:11,519 Speaker 1: Do you have a theory on whoever supplied it, denied it, 1517 01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:13,839 Speaker 1: or whoever smelt it dealt it? Just by his face? 1518 01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:16,360 Speaker 1: It was him, you think, so right? I've made that 1519 01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:20,920 Speaker 1: face before many times. Yeah. Have you ever done it 1520 01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:23,479 Speaker 1: in like a quiet room with a lot of people 1521 01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:26,200 Speaker 1: in it? You know where I've been tappened to me. 1522 01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:29,960 Speaker 1: I've been told by friends it can happen sometimes in 1523 01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:33,240 Speaker 1: the gym. Oh that's bad because but also you figure, 1524 01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:36,720 Speaker 1: so I'm told that if you're in the gym, people 1525 01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:39,280 Speaker 1: are gonna have headphones on. But let's say you're in 1526 01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:40,960 Speaker 1: the gym and everybody has headphones on, and you think 1527 01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:43,439 Speaker 1: you're safe, and then you you were to just relax 1528 01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:45,479 Speaker 1: and let it, let you know, let nature have its 1529 01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:48,679 Speaker 1: take its course there, and you engaged in your own 1530 01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:53,439 Speaker 1: aerosol bombing of your athletic facility. And then you see 1531 01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:57,519 Speaker 1: perhaps see a beautiful uh you know, woman in her 1532 01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:00,400 Speaker 1: in her late twenties or early thirties working out near 1533 01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:03,040 Speaker 1: you who does not have headphones on because she prefers 1534 01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:04,960 Speaker 1: to just listen to the music coming over the PA system. 1535 01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:07,559 Speaker 1: Then you have to think in your head, well, she's 1536 01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:11,280 Speaker 1: a psychopath, did well, but did she did she here 1537 01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:14,120 Speaker 1: or not? And that can that can be troublesome for 1538 01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:16,760 Speaker 1: some people. I'm told some people just working out, you 1539 01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:18,479 Speaker 1: know you can't help it. I will say, I can't 1540 01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:21,000 Speaker 1: control your yoga instructors. And it is known that once 1541 01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:23,760 Speaker 1: you kind of get the you get that energy flow going, 1542 01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,599 Speaker 1: gotta let it all flow, and that can mean stuff 1543 01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:29,559 Speaker 1: happens in there. So we see, we're all adults here. 1544 01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:33,759 Speaker 1: It's nature. It's no big deal. It happens. It happens. 1545 01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:37,760 Speaker 1: But neither mean nor producer Mark. We are very gentlemanly 1546 01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:39,840 Speaker 1: in the freedom hudding here. So this is this is 1547 01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:42,000 Speaker 1: not This is not some zoo. We don't allow things 1548 01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:47,599 Speaker 1: to get crazy and uncouth. We're too close together those 1549 01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:49,599 Speaker 1: quarters in here, so we gotta we gotta keep it clean, 1550 01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:53,000 Speaker 1: all right. Roll calls coming up like soft butter on 1551 01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:56,719 Speaker 1: warm toast. Time to spread some freedom coast to coast. 1552 01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:10,439 Speaker 1: It's time for roll call Facebook dot com, slash buck 1553 01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:17,519 Speaker 1: Sexton or Team Bucket, iHeartMedia dot Com. There we go. Now, 1554 01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:24,840 Speaker 1: let's get to it, shall we. Chris buck Shield Time 1555 01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:28,479 Speaker 1: a man. I hear you and the others say the 1556 01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:30,920 Speaker 1: rot in the FBI is limited to the top. I 1557 01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:33,839 Speaker 1: used to think so too, but I'm having serious doubts. 1558 01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:38,040 Speaker 1: Any organization that relies on handwritten notes and refuses to 1559 01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:41,200 Speaker 1: record interviews except wire taps and secret recordings, of course, 1560 01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:46,080 Speaker 1: as the norm is suspicious. An organization that made its 1561 01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:49,160 Speaker 1: bones going after the mafia with tangential crimes like tax 1562 01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:53,160 Speaker 1: evasion has embraced the win in any way necessary. That 1563 01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:57,520 Speaker 1: is their mentality. I'm not defending criminals, but this approach, 1564 01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:03,200 Speaker 1: where did I just lost it? This approach has changed 1565 01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:06,000 Speaker 1: the character of the FBI. It's no longer about criminal intent. 1566 01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:09,519 Speaker 1: They'll go after people for a lying or any number 1567 01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:12,000 Speaker 1: of tactics to secure a conviction. I'm not saying this 1568 01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:15,600 Speaker 1: is always unwarranted, but I believe this core attitude is 1569 01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:19,840 Speaker 1: so pervasive it corrupted the entire organization and corrupt and 1570 01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:25,120 Speaker 1: political top officials. You're looking at the beginning of something terrifying, Chris. 1571 01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:28,479 Speaker 1: I do think, unfortunately, especially at that level the FBI, 1572 01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:31,320 Speaker 1: or rather at the FBI level, so federal crimes, there 1573 01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:36,200 Speaker 1: is a common mentality of we want to put wins 1574 01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:37,920 Speaker 1: up on the board. You gotta get collars, as we 1575 01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:42,080 Speaker 1: send the MYPD, you gotta get convictions against people, and 1576 01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:47,280 Speaker 1: that that mentality of putting points on the board can 1577 01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:50,880 Speaker 1: influence decision making about things that can have a really 1578 01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:57,960 Speaker 1: big effect on people's lives. So yeah, here we go. 1579 01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:05,800 Speaker 1: Let's see what we have here, Christian um, Men at 1580 01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:09,400 Speaker 1: Work are definitely Aussies. They were my favorite band of 1581 01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:12,760 Speaker 1: the eighties. Yes, the Buck is right even when he 1582 01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:16,400 Speaker 1: doubts himself, because the Bucks should not doubt himself, that 1583 01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:21,960 Speaker 1: is for sure. Um Robert rights Men at Work as 1584 01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:24,759 Speaker 1: an Australian band and their best song is down Under. 1585 01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:27,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. So there's who could it be 1586 01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:32,160 Speaker 1: knocking at my door? And then there's also I come 1587 01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:34,320 Speaker 1: from a letting down Under. That's why I thought Men 1588 01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:39,040 Speaker 1: at Work was ausy because they're definitely ausy. And something 1589 01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:45,360 Speaker 1: something about a vegemite sandwich that's in there too. Can 1590 01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:47,920 Speaker 1: you hear? Can you hear the thunder? Come on? Producer 1591 01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:52,720 Speaker 1: Mark segment me, babe, let's do it. You gotta h 1592 01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:57,040 Speaker 1: should call me babe, you know what I mean? I mean, 1593 01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:00,800 Speaker 1: I know we're close, but this is rock star. I'm 1594 01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:03,000 Speaker 1: in the Rockstar mode I'm trying to give, you know, 1595 01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:06,120 Speaker 1: trying to get the crowd of one fired up in here. 1596 01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:10,720 Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, didn't you take the harassing course 1597 01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:14,559 Speaker 1: of the company gave. That's a fair point, Julia writes 1598 01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:18,679 Speaker 1: book Awesome, Awesome Show. Yesterday, a friend of mine, who 1599 01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:22,360 Speaker 1: also indulges in the Buck Sexton Show said that Netflix's 1600 01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:26,160 Speaker 1: War Machine with Brad Pitt was based on General McCrystal 1601 01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:33,600 Speaker 1: and his staff's Shenanigan's Shields High. Is that true? I 1602 01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:35,599 Speaker 1: didn't know about that, and thank you so much, Juliet, 1603 01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:38,360 Speaker 1: thank you for listening. I haven't seen Brad pitt War Machine. 1604 01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:40,960 Speaker 1: I'm really behind my show is because I have to 1605 01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:43,240 Speaker 1: go home after the Bucks Exton show every day and 1606 01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:45,280 Speaker 1: write for hours and hours to put out this book 1607 01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:48,000 Speaker 1: on Crushing Commies that I'm going to be releasing for 1608 01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:50,639 Speaker 1: all of you probably in January or February. Yeah, it's 1609 01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:53,719 Speaker 1: coming soon. So I don't have a ton of time 1610 01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:55,439 Speaker 1: for the shows because right now I got in the 1611 01:39:55,520 --> 01:40:01,439 Speaker 1: queue the Americans, Peaky Blinder's latest season. There's some other 1612 01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:04,000 Speaker 1: stuff that I want to see that i've although I 1613 01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:06,439 Speaker 1: will say at night, I've been watching this Netflix series 1614 01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:10,719 Speaker 1: on World War two. It's like World War two in color. 1615 01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,400 Speaker 1: It's pretty good. It's pretty good. It's they do a 1616 01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:15,200 Speaker 1: good job. They do some of the major events. I mean, 1617 01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:17,920 Speaker 1: I know all the stories already, and I've learned very 1618 01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:22,040 Speaker 1: little new stuff, but pretty good. Little bit. We'll enjoy 1619 01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:23,080 Speaker 1: it a little bit. I don't know what it is 1620 01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:25,360 Speaker 1: watching like World War two movies before you go to sleep, 1621 01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:28,080 Speaker 1: and actually it's as crazy as it is. I don't 1622 01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:29,880 Speaker 1: know what I like watching the old footage and stuff. 1623 01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:31,639 Speaker 1: It just kind of like zones me out, and then 1624 01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:34,519 Speaker 1: you know, I can, like I can go to sleep easily. 1625 01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:38,200 Speaker 1: So sometimes I watch, you know, the most cataclysmic battles 1626 01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:41,559 Speaker 1: of all history, and I'm like, oh, okay, now it's now. 1627 01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:43,439 Speaker 1: Now I know everything will be okay in the world, 1628 01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:47,000 Speaker 1: So I guess I can go to sleep. Here we go. 1629 01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:52,479 Speaker 1: Michael writes buck Willow was a great movie, directed by 1630 01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:55,519 Speaker 1: Ron Howard and story by George Lucas. It is one 1631 01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:58,720 Speaker 1: of Valcomer's top three roles doc Holiday, being number one, 1632 01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:01,920 Speaker 1: of course in Tombstone. Back in the eighties when kids 1633 01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:07,160 Speaker 1: movies were a little dark. It deserves a rewatch Shields high. Michael, 1634 01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:10,640 Speaker 1: I don't know about willow Man. It has some cool 1635 01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:16,280 Speaker 1: sequences in it. I will give you that, but I'm 1636 01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:18,160 Speaker 1: sorry to me it is very much right out of 1637 01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:22,519 Speaker 1: the Lord of the Rings universe. So you gotta see, 1638 01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:29,080 Speaker 1: you gotta see. Let's see what we get here, Michelle, Right, Buck, 1639 01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:32,280 Speaker 1: I got some great responses and private messages for thanking 1640 01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:36,800 Speaker 1: me for referring you, and you need have some new 1641 01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:41,280 Speaker 1: members of Team Buck and then let's see what we 1642 01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:45,200 Speaker 1: have here. I continue making clips with you. Thank you 1643 01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:47,080 Speaker 1: for your work. Continue to fund on. Thank you, Michelle. 1644 01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:49,920 Speaker 1: Please continue posting clips and spreading the word about the show. 1645 01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:53,680 Speaker 1: The single most helpful thing you can do for us 1646 01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:56,960 Speaker 1: here in the Freedom Hunt is that tell people about 1647 01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:00,719 Speaker 1: what we've got going on here, Tell them about this show, 1648 01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:08,400 Speaker 1: tell them to watch this show. Here we go skip. 1649 01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:12,679 Speaker 1: I'm dismayed to suggest the lack of effective law enforcement 1650 01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:16,760 Speaker 1: in the major sanctuary cities is not a new occurrence 1651 01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:20,880 Speaker 1: and will tragically devolve into a similar outcome. California in 1652 01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:22,920 Speaker 1: the mid eighteen hundreds, as a result of the gold Rush, 1653 01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:26,679 Speaker 1: collapsed into veritable lawlessness in which the police were either 1654 01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:30,840 Speaker 1: totally ineffective or unwilling to enforce law and order. This 1655 01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:34,760 Speaker 1: set the scene for statewide vigilante retaliation on the part 1656 01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:38,800 Speaker 1: of disgruntled citizens. There were many labels creatively describing these 1657 01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:43,720 Speaker 1: loosely organized groups. One was called the Safety Committee. Law 1658 01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:46,200 Speaker 1: enforcement in my town is in a downward spiral, and 1659 01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:50,080 Speaker 1: outraged citizens are demanding chain to the town council voted 1660 01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,600 Speaker 1: recently to create a safety committee with an emphasis on 1661 01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:56,840 Speaker 1: volunteer neighborhood watch. Perhaps a necessary solution as our police 1662 01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:59,920 Speaker 1: are proven to be ineffective, but as a slippery slope 1663 01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,280 Speaker 1: vigilante violence shields high, we'll skip. I don't know what 1664 01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:04,280 Speaker 1: town that is, but I hope everything's okay. Man, Thank 1665 01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:08,439 Speaker 1: you for thank you for writing in and sorry about 1666 01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:14,800 Speaker 1: the difficulties that you are facing. Ronnie chick fil A 1667 01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:20,200 Speaker 1: caving to the LGBT. Uh can you check this out? Yeah, Ronnie, 1668 01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:22,160 Speaker 1: we talked about on the show. So I'm a step ahead. 1669 01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:33,200 Speaker 1: The buck delivers boom m. Somebody also wrote here Gina 1670 01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:37,320 Speaker 1: higin Buck slapshot stars Paul Newman and a few other 1671 01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:40,639 Speaker 1: seventy stars you may or may not recognize. Excellent hockey 1672 01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:44,400 Speaker 1: flick pre Mighty Ducks enjoy shields High. Clearly we've got 1673 01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:47,960 Speaker 1: another vote for mighty ducks here. Yeah, and that's bad 1674 01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:50,960 Speaker 1: on me not realizing it was Paul Newman will slap shop. No, No, 1675 01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:53,000 Speaker 1: I mean I don't see it, so I can't. I can't, 1676 01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:58,720 Speaker 1: can't hit you on that one. Um William writes, are 1677 01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:03,280 Speaker 1: you available to chat? Um? I don't know, probably not. 1678 01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:06,120 Speaker 1: Thanks for writing that message. I don't know. I don't 1679 01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:08,720 Speaker 1: know what that means. Well, that's another Bucks bad. A 1680 01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:11,439 Speaker 1: technology that's if somebody's on your page that can click 1681 01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:14,840 Speaker 1: that probably accidentally. Okay, as if you're a business, Oh, 1682 01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:16,840 Speaker 1: because I'm a business, that's true. I'm I'm a business 1683 01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:20,360 Speaker 1: of Buck helped spread that business. Tell people about it. 1684 01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:24,000 Speaker 1: iTunes every day three o'clock Eastern. Download that show. 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