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Speaker 1: These and opinions expressing this podcast are satirical and slowly

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Speaker 1: those are the podcast author or and visualists participating in

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Speaker 1: the podcast. Disgraceland is a production of Double Elvis. This

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Speaker 1: is the story about one of the greatest singer songwriters

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Speaker 1: of all time, a protest singer, A protest singer who

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Speaker 1: paradoxically tried to remain a political until the President threatened

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Speaker 1: his friend, a threat that dragged this singer songwriter into

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Speaker 1: one of the crimes of the century, and because of

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Speaker 1: recently disclosed secret government files, this singer's involvement in this

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Speaker 1: crime may prove one of the wildest conspiracy theories of

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Speaker 1: all time to be true. This singer, in this songwriter

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Speaker 1: is none other than Bob Dylan, a man who made

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Speaker 1: and continues to make great music, undoubtedly some of the

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Speaker 1: greatest music of all time. Unlike that music I played

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Speaker 1: for you at the top of the show. That wasn't

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Speaker 1: great music. That was a preset loop from my melotron

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Speaker 1: called not So Tricky Dick MK one. I played you

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Speaker 1: that loop because I can't afford the rights to feel

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Speaker 1: like Make in Love by ROBERTA. Flack. And why would

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Speaker 1: I play you that specific slice of George Benson. Did

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Speaker 1: it better? Geez? Could I afford it? Because that was

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Speaker 1: the number one song in America on August eighth, nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy four, and that was the day President Richard Nixon

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Speaker 1: resigned from office, an event that led to one of

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Speaker 1: the craziest stories in rock and roll history that most

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Speaker 1: have yet to hear. On this episode, an assassination, a

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Speaker 1: presidential threat, a prostitution ring, secret JFK files, the Watergate burgery,

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Speaker 1: and as he's referred to in the FBI documents, Bobby Dylan.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jake Brennan, and this is disgraceland. When I was

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Speaker 1: a young man, I worked for Carl Bernstein at a

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Speaker 1: dot com boom era internet company called voter dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I was one of the first employees hired number fourteen.

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Speaker 1: I did not make a bundle, but I did work

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Speaker 1: with Carl Bernstein. And Carl wasn't my direct boss, but

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Speaker 1: on some level everyone worked for Carl. Carl was a legend.

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Speaker 1: Carl was part of the Woodward in Bernstein journalism duo

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Speaker 1: Carl co wrote All the President's Men with Bob Woodward.

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Speaker 1: Dustin Hoffman portrayed Carl in the movie of the same name.

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Speaker 1: Carl was super famous. He still is. He turned on

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Speaker 1: Carl doing his talking head thing. Carl Bernstein is a

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Speaker 1: journalism giant, and Carl Bernstein is also an idiot, or

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Speaker 1: Woodward's pencils while Woodward did all the investigative journalism that

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Speaker 1: Mark felt. The rumor around our office, which was staffed

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Speaker 1: Woodward wasn't what he said he was. Now, how did

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Speaker 1: And it is this President Richard Nixon did not let

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Speaker 1: The idea that Bob Woodward and the dopey Carl Bernstein

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Speaker 1: October eighth, nineteen seventy one, at which time the President

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Speaker 1: on quote unquote who shot John? Don't believe me? Here's

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Speaker 1: Dylan would later say, quote, the kind of man you

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Speaker 1: The aristocrat later informed Dylan's assistant that he was a

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Speaker 1: and there it was, the fifty five Families in print

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Speaker 1: in a book about Bob Dylan. Days after this incident,

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Speaker 1: why he had infiltrated Dylan's inner circle to gather information

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Speaker 1: Oh no, not again. Was Bob Dylan drunk? It was

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Speaker 1: hard to say. He'd been seen back in the kitchen

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Speaker 1: he wasn't serious. These other people, rich people, rich people

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Speaker 1: And what the hell was this anyway? Were they giving

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Speaker 1: That seemed odd? Who awards themselves for being virtuous? These

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Speaker 1: the problems These people were protesting against poverty, racism. It

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Speaker 1: Bob Dylan's comments. How could the so called voice of

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00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: a generation, the voice of the peace and love generation,

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00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: be for a war that this hippie generation was so

431
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: fervently against. Dylan didn't even know the answer, and neither

432
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: did his friend Andy, who sat with Dylan in his

433
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: apartment watching him. The two men sat in silence, taking

434
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: in the sounds of the city from outside Dylan's McDougall

435
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: Street townhouse. Andy knew what Dylan was thinking. His friend

436
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 1: the so called protest singer had learned his lesson from

437
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: the Thomas Payne Awards ceremony back in sixty three. He

438
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: wasn't going to get roped into leading any cause, even

439
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: if he did believe in it. Leadership meant power, and

440
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: power corrupts. It was getting dark, and the city had

441
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: entered that in between time of day when the sun

442
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: dips down and New Yorkers en mass head for their

443
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: homes to regroup and get ready to head back out

444
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: on the town. There's a strange lull around dusk in

445
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: the city. You can feel it that moment when everyone

446
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: has taken a beat and recalibrating. It's not exactly silence,

447
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: but it's at least an urban hush. For a few moments,

448
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:47,479
Speaker 1: peace in this chaotic Gotham seemed possible. And then Dylan

449
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: rocketed out of his chair. Damn it, fucking Weberman again.

450
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: Man Dylan raced down the stairs of his apartment and

451
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: into the alley out back, and he followed him. There

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00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: he was Aj Weerman, self proclaimed Dylanologists, the inventor of

453
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: so called garbology, going through the dumpster, rooting through Dylan's trash,

454
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: looking for some sort of evidence of Bob Dylan's political leanings, writings, pamphlets,

455
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: anything that would feed his delusion that Bob Dylan was

456
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: down with the cause. Weberman, You crazy fuck. I told you, man,

457
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: my wife is gonna kill me. She's gonna kill.

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Speaker 3: Me if she catches you one more damn time in

459
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: our trash, man, Now get the hell. Dylan picked up

460
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: a discarded can of peaches and rocketed it at Weberman's

461
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 3: head and the dumpster. Weberman propelled himself out of the

462
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: dumpster incredibly, with no shame at all.

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00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: He dusted himself off and confronted his hero. What's it

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00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: gonna take, Dylan asked, an interview? Weberman replied, Man, Dylan

465
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: did not want to hear that. One interview man, One

466
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: interview from my magazine, and I promise I'll leave you alone.

467
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: Dylan paced in the alley, his hand on his chin

468
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: and thinking. Andy stood nearby, watching, ready to pounce on

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00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 1: Weberman if need be. And Dylan spoke one interview, one interview,

470
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: and you'll never come around here again. You'll leave my

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00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: wife and my kids alone, I promise, Weberman said. Dylan replied, tomorrow,

472
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: call the studio. I'm there all day. Bob Dylan then

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00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: turned and headed back into his townhouse. Inside he let

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00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: loose on Andy. They don't quit man, I tell you

475
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: a magazine. He ain't got no fucking magazine. It's a

476
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: damn rag. Aj Weberman was the head of the Rock

477
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: Liberation Front, a loose group of new left radicals hell

478
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: bent on bringing down Richard Nixon's government in nineteen seventy one,

479
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: with the specific mission of enlisting rock stars to help

480
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: them with their cause. When aj Weberman wasn't dumpster diving,

481
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: he was focusing on quote unquote liberating famous rock artists

482
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: from their bourgeois tendencies so that they could continue to

483
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: represent the political counterculture of the nineteen sixties. As insane

484
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: as this sounds, aj Weberman was not ineffective. He prevailed

485
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: upon no less than John Lennon in the early seventies

486
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: to take up his cause. This was at a time

487
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: when John Lennon had moved to Manhattan and had become

488
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: increasingly political, supporting all manner of radical causes, singing out

489
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: against the pot related persecution of radical John Sinclair, parading

490
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: the Black Panthers onto national television, aligning himself with Jerry Rubin,

491
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: to make plans to disrupt Richard Nixon's nineteen seventy two

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00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: Republican National Convention, and yes, even aligning himself with AJ

493
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: Weberman to pull Bob Dylan out of his a political

494
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: trance and into the cause to help America disentangle itself

495
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: from the war and overthrow Richard Nixon from power. John

496
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: Lennon was so convinced of the need for his old

497
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: friend Bob to join the New Left fight that he

498
00:31:52,760 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: famously wore a pin that read free Bob Dylon. Weeks

499
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: weeks later, Andy sat on Bob Dylan's stoop next to

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00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: his friend and told him about the pin. Bob already

501
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 1: knew about it, John Man. Andy cut him off. John's

502
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: in a lot of trouble. Dylan got quiet. Andy went

503
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: on that Jerry Rubin's stuff, Nixon hates Ruben, hates Abby

504
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: Hoffman hates the New Left with a burning passion. John's

505
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: days are numbered. What Dylan thought of Kennedy? No, Andy said,

506
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: not that, but well what man? Dylan was impatient. He'd

507
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: already started his day upset. The AJ Weberman interview had

508
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: come out, and it was filled with lies, filled with misquotes,

509
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: A total frame job meant to get the radical's point

510
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: of view out there, using Dylan as their vehicle. Worse,

511
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: it projected the radicals belief on to Dylan. Dylan thought

512
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: it made him look like a clown, like one of

513
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: those geeks they paid to see in the carnival, a freak.

514
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: Dylan was pissed, and now this news of John was troubling.

515
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 1: John was still Dylan's friend, even if he was annoying

516
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: him at the time, trolling him in the press with

517
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: this free bob Dylan bullshit. Is John gonna be all right?

518
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: He asked Andy. He didn't hear? Hear what?

519
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 2: Man?

520
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: Quit being cute? What's happening with John? Nixon came at

521
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: him and Yoko with both guns, deportation, maybe even jail.

522
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: Dylan shook his head in disgust, spit between his legs

523
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: onto the stoop, and looked up and there he was

524
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: Aj Weberman, strutting his hippy ass down McDougall Street, A

525
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: dirty fucking rat, Hey, Dylan, yell. Weberman turned his head

526
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: quick saw. Dylan saw that he was pissed and took

527
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: off in a sprint. Dylan jumped from the stoop and

528
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: gave chase within seconds, he was on Webman's back, dragging

529
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: him to the pavement. Bob Dylan, the peace and love,

530
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: so called voice of the Hippie generation, rained down punches

531
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: onto his detractor. Weberman laughed, delusional fuck that he was.

532
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: It only fueled Dylan's anger. Dylan spouted an unintelligible rage

533
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: for months. The scumbag had invaded his privacy, his wife's privacy,

534
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: his children's, his fucking kids, his family. Weberman confronted Dylan's

535
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: wife on the street, went through Dylan's man, went through

536
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: Dylan's trash, misquoted Dylan in the press, miscategorized and misrepresented

537
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: Dylan's words, talk bullshit about Dylan and his family. Weberman protested,

538
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: Weberman giggled, Weberman winced, Weberman outright laughed. Weberman was psychotic.

539
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: Dylan stood and kicked Webman in the ribs, kicked Weberman

540
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: in the head, and stopped him furiously until Andy pulled

541
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan off of Aj Weberman. It's a good thing

542
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: Andy was there, or Bob Dylan may have killed Aj Weberman.

543
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: Andy was always there for Dylan back then. It's hard

544
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: to tell when Andy the Answer came into Bob Dylan's life.

545
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: Sometime around nineteen sixty three from my research, but by

546
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: most accounts, he just appeared Andy the Answer blew in

547
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: with the Wind, and that's where his nickname came from.

548
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: Like Bobby Newarth, Andy the Answer became at times one

549
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: of Dylan's closest and also most mysterious friends. He was

550
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: around and then he wasn't, and Dylan didn't seem to mind.

551
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: Andy didn't require much of Dylan. He gave more than

552
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: he took, which is to say he didn't take much

553
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: at all. And for a famous person, this is precisely

554
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: the type of dynamic needed in a friendship. So when

555
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: Andy the Answer Blew In with the Wind to Washington,

556
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: d C. On June seventeenth, nineteen seventy two, and called

557
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: on Bob Dylan, nobody, least of all Dylan, suspected anything.

558
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 1: On January twenty third, twenty twenty five, President Trump issued

559
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: an executive order instructing members of his intelligence community to

560
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: come up with a plan within fifteen days to release

561
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: the so called JFK files. Within the last few weeks,

562
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of pages from this treasure trove of

563
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: previously unreleased documents related to the Kennedy assassination have been

564
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: unredacted and released officially. One document, in particular, a document

565
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: mentioning Bob Dylan, looks and reads a lot like the

566
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: previously released FBI document on Bob Dylan that I read

567
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: for you earlier in this episode, the FBI documents summarizing

568
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: Dylan's comments about Lee Harvey Oswald at the Tom Payne Awards.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to read this new document to you now.

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Speaker 1: June sixteenth, nineteen seventy three, Airtel two director FBI one

571
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Speaker 1: zero zero dash three eight four, five six to zero

572
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: from sac Whington d C one zero zero dash one

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00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: zero eight five five two eight subject Watergate Complex Prostitution Ring.

574
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 1: Forwarded here with are five copies of letterhead memorandum concerning

575
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: the Watergate Complex Prostitution Ring. Source William Anderson. The source

576
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: furnished the characterization of the individuals listed below. Becca Handle

577
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: aka Rebecca Handle aka Foggy Bottom Becca and Bob Dylon

578
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: aka Bobby Dylon aka Robert Dillon aka Robert Zimmerman. Becca

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Speaker 1: Handle twenty six, employed as secretary by Watergate Commercial Holdings,

580
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: has for the past eight months, orchestrated and managed a

581
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: stable of female prostitutes out of her office at the

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00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: Watergate Complex building in the Foggy Bottom neighborhood of Washington.

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Speaker 2: D C.

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00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: Mishandle keeps photographs of the prostitution she manages under lock

585
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: and key in her secretarial desk office. Her clients include

586
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: mostly dignitaries from foreign countries, notably those from the nearby

587
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia and as well as traveling athletes and musicians.

588
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: Mishandle is in an ongoing non commercial sexual relationship with

589
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: known radical and protest singer Bob Dylan. Mister Dylan, the

590
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: Mishandle meet most times the singer visits Washington. It is

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00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: recommended that the Director utilize this information as an asset

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00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: to turn Bob Dylan towards assisting the Bureau and its efforts,

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00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: should the Director deem it necessary to that end. No

594
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: effort has been made by the Bureau to inform local

595
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: authorities of the Watergate Complex prostitution ring or Mishandle's role

596
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: in it. It is recommended that Bob Dylan is kept

597
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: under continued close surveillance by the following source, William Anderson.

598
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: The Watergate prostitution ring is one of many theories believed

599
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: to be the real reason behind President Richard Nixon's demise,

600
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: but we now know that many events contributed to the

601
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: same result. Bob Dylan, of course knew about the prostitution ring.

602
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: Richard Manuel from the band told Dylan all about the

603
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: working girls scene in Washington. He was the first to

604
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: connect Bob with Becca, but Bob, by the account I read,

605
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: didn't pay for it. Dylan sat at the end of

606
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: the bed in his Watergate Hotel room, staring at the television,

607
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 1: stressed out, watching the news. It really looked like Nixon

608
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: was going to deport his friend John Lennon and John's wife,

609
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: Yoko Ono. Dylan couldn't wrap his head around this. The

610
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: blatant power flex John was harmless. Dylan thought he was

611
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: just speaking up for the little guy. He wasn't like

612
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: aj Weberman or Jerry Rubin the radicals. John was pouwing

613
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: around with up until his deportation problem started. John was

614
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: a shiny nickel guy. He was onto something one day

615
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: and then onto something else the next. This political obsession

616
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: of his would fade, Dylan knew, but now it seemed

617
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 1: it might be too late. John looked to be cooked

618
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: by Nixon. Dylan couldn't stand Nixon. Who could. The man

619
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: was clearly governed by his worst instincts. He had no

620
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: problem stepping all over the little guy if necessary. First

621
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: it was the Hippies, and then the Panthers, and now

622
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: John Nixon would trample the rights of anyone to maintain

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00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: his power. Dylan might not have wanted to lend his

624
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: name to the cause, but that didn't mean he approved

625
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: of what Nixon was doing to those who did. In fact,

626
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: what Nixon was doing to John in particular, scared the

627
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: hell out of Bob Dylan. If Nixon could get away

628
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: with evicting a rock and roll singer from a free

629
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: country for exercising his free speech, then what couldn't Nixon

630
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: get away with America? It was getting so an outlaw

631
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: couldn't feel free or brave. But Bob Dylan was feeling brave.

632
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: It was that contrarian instinct. Andy gave him the idea.

633
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: Andy had just arrived at Dylan's hotel room. Becka let

634
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: him in and let herself out. Andy noted his approval

635
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: of her good looks to Dylan, and Dylan ignored the comment.

636
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: All she does is work man, and I could dig

637
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: that Dylan's consternation over the Nixon and Lenin power struggle

638
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: was palpable. Andy explained that Dylan could help finally, and

639
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: Dylan pretended to not be interested, but he was at last,

640
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: and Andy went on, you don't have to go on

641
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: television and stand up for the war, and you don't

642
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: have to do an interview with Rolling Stone disparaging Nixon.

643
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: You don't even have to open your mouth. Dylan was listening.

644
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: Andy said, write a letter? Who? Write who a letter?

645
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: Dylan wanted to know. Tricky Dick Immigration and Naturalization Services

646
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: answered Andy the answer, Why Why would I do that?

647
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: Dylan protested. Andy closed his eyes, clinched his lips, and

648
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: tilted his head as if to say, you know the answer,

649
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: and you know I know the answer, So quit being

650
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,479
Speaker 1: so fucking coy about it, mister international pop star man.

651
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: Now I'm serious, man. What's writing a letter going to

652
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: do to help John? Dylan said, It'll send a message.

653
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 1: Andy answered, it'll Alvini's public opinion in favor of John.

654
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: It'll make Nixon realize the youth vote would be even

655
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: farther out of reach if he deports John and Yoko.

656
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 1: Dylan stood up. He was out of patience, He walked

657
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: angrily over to the desk in his hotel room. You

658
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: want me to write a letter, fine, I'll write a letter.

659
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: Dylan grabbed the piece of hotel stationery off the desk

660
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: and a pen, and he wrote down the following. John

661
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: and Yoko had a great voice and drive to this

662
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: country so called art institution. They inspire and transcend and stimulate,

663
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: and by doing only can help others to see pure light,

664
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: and in doing that, put an end to this wild,

665
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: dull taste of petty commercialism which is being passed off

666
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: as art by the overpowering mass media. Hooray for John

667
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: and Yoko. Let them stay and live here and breathe.

668
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: This country's got plenty of room in space. Let John

669
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: and Yoko stay, Bob Dylan. When he was finished, he

670
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: turned to Andy and handed him the paper. There he satisfied.

671
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: Andy took the letter, tucked it into his jacket pocket,

672
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: smiled and said, actually, there's one more thing you can do.

673
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 1: Dylan gave Andy an annoyed look. Andy smiled and said,

674
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: call that pretty young secretary and tell her to blow

675
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: off work and come back here and keep you company. Yeah, maybe,

676
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: Dylan said, no, Andy insisted and picked up the rotary

677
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: phone receiver and handed it to Bob. Call her, I

678
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: insist you deserve it. Dylan was too beat to argue.

679
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: He grabbed the phone, dialed up Becka in her office

680
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: on the first floor, and started talking as Andy slipped

681
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: out of the room downstairs. Later that evening, Andy the Answer,

682
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: along with the team of four XCIA agents and one

683
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: security chief from the committee to re elect the president,

684
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: all of whom were skilled in spycraft, breaking and entering,

685
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: being a mo those skills, crept through the halls of

686
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: the Watergate Complex office building. Their main target was on

687
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: the sixth floor, the Democratic National Committee headquarters, but before

688
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: breaking into that office, they needed to break into the

689
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: office of Watergate Commercial Holdings on the first floor of

690
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: the Watergate The mission was simple. With Becca Handle, the

691
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: Watergate Commercial Holding secretary and Madam of the Watergate prostitution ring,

692
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: now preoccupied on the other side of the massive Watergate

693
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: building in Bob Dylan's hotel room, the burglars could freely

694
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: break into Becca's office. Once inside, the plan was to

695
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: get the photos from Becca's desk. The photos of the prostitutes,

696
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: not all of them, just some it was key to

697
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: make it look like nothing happened, and it was also

698
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: key to leave some of the photos behind in Becca's

699
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: desk in case evidence was later needed to incriminate her.

700
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: Then get out without leaving a trace. Andy picked the

701
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: lock to Beca's desk, and there they were the photos.

702
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: He grabbed about six or seven of them. Each polaroid

703
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: featured a different prostitute, high class, nearly naked, just enough

704
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: skin to tease. Their names Candy Cane and Greenhouse Nymph,

705
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: among others, along with their measurements, were scribbled onto the

706
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: bottoms of the polaroids. And before Andy closed the desk,

707
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: he took the small, spare gold desk key from inside

708
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: the drawer in case he needed access later. He tucked

709
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: the key into his pocket next to the letter Bob

710
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: Dylan had written, what was that A light came on

711
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: suddenly from down the hall? This was the part of

712
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: the mission that was most critical. Andy needed to escape

713
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: unseen and to leave the others behind, and if he

714
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: was to get caught, he was most certainly not to

715
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: have any evidence on him. So from in his pocket,

716
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 1: Andy grabbed the key he had just taken from the desk.

717
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: He also grabbed the letter Dylan had written, ripped it

718
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: in half, and carefully folded one half of the stationery,

719
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 1: the half that hadn't been written on, over the key.

720
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: He put what remained of Dylan's note back into his pocket,

721
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: and then handed the folded paper over the key in

722
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: the photos to one of his burglars. Frank Carter and

723
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: Andy carefully exited the office. Andy the answer, crept into

724
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: the stairwell and absconded into the night. The five remaining

725
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: burglars crept into the stairwell and up to the sixth floor.

726
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: Andy needed to get out, but only Andy. The other five,

727
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: the CIA man and the Committee man did not. That

728
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: was part of the plan. They had to get caught,

729
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: but not before the next part of the mission. They

730
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: quietly broke into the Democratic National Committee offices. Then Frank

731
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 1: Carter planted the photos of the prostitutes that were stolen

732
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: from Becka's office into the desks of various Democrat Attic

733
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: National Committee members. He made it look like those depraved

734
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: liberals were busy paying for sex, which they were anyway beholding.

735
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: What was that a noise from outside the office? Stop

736
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: all right, it's gone back to business. The burglars planted

737
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: what they needed to. They made the whole thing look messy,

738
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: but not too messy, and then white light it was happening.

739
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: The rent a coop employed by the Watergate Security Office

740
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 1: took the bait, the suspicious tape left on the lock

741
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,479
Speaker 1: of the exit door downstairs, and he was here now

742
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: in the office doing the hole. Put your hands up

743
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: or I'll shoot thing. The CIA men smirked and did

744
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: as they were told, and they were ready, and this

745
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: was necessary. All the clues were meant to lead back

746
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: to President Nixon. The men who were arrested were all

747
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: tied into men within Nixon's inner circle. And now because

748
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: of this Watergate scandal, there was no doubt Nixon was unhinged.

749
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: Nixon deployed his own CIA men to break into his

750
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: opponent's office to spy and to subvert the Democratic Party.

751
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: That's the message the public was sold, and that's the

752
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: message the public bought. The message to Richard Nixon from

753
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: the CIA was darker. It said, we will sacrifice our

754
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: own to fuck you. We will have our own men

755
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: arrested and drag before Congress and publicly shamed to fuck

756
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: you to the fucking death. We will rat fuck you

757
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: full of historical disgrace in order to keep our secrets

758
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: and to keep you the fuck out of the halls

759
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: of real power, because you are nothing more than a

760
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: temporary employee who merely thought about getting too big for

761
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: his bridges. And we are forever, and we are soulless.

762
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: We are the permanent Washington bureaucracy.

763
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 4: First it was called the water Day Caper.

764
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: Five men apparently caught.

765
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 4: In the act of burglarising and bugging Democratic headquarters in Washington,

766
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 4: but the episode grew steadily more sinister political sabotage, an

767
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 4: espionage unparalleled in Americans.

768
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 5: Donald Sagrette reports in major newspapers say White house Age

769
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 5: recruited Seagrette for secret intelligence work and dirty tricks against

770
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 5: the Democratics.

771
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 2: Good inhible decisions I had made in my second life.

772
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: I have always to try to do what was.

773
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: Best in the nation.

774
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: Prop the new home difficult to a watergate, I have

775
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 2: had that this was my durty persevered with the interest

776
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: of the nation state, who was from For any Christmas,

777
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: I have remember say Twitter, America needs a food time proved,

778
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 2: I shall resign later through your fetus.

779
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: In the aftermath of the Watergate break in, there was

780
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: no mention of the prostitution ring. It is believed that

781
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: Democrat operatives got a hold of the photos through local

782
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: authorities and squashed the story with their boys club buddies

783
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: in the press before the news could get out. However,

784
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: Jim Houghton, in his excellent book Secret Agenda, lays out

785
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: the scandal with pretty compelling evidence. President Richard Nixon resigned

786
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: on August eighth, nineteen seventy four, rather than face impeachment.

787
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: It wasn't until nineteen seventy nine when one of Nixon's henchmen,

788
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: g Gordon Liddy, broke the news of the prostitution ring,

789
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: and that Bob Dylan began to piece together his role

790
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: in the Washington scandal. Bob Dylan sat in the backseat

791
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: of his limousine reading his newspaper alongside Bill Graham, annoyed

792
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: at the fact that both he and Bill had allowed

793
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: an outsider, this one seemingly political, to enter into his world.

794
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: The aristocrat who just exited the limo, The aristocrat who

795
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: had been hanging around with them for the last several evenings,

796
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: posing as the other's friend, sapping information from Bob, inquiring

797
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: subtly but consistently about Bob's political leanings, his opinions, his

798
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: thoughts on his friend, President Jimmy Carter, and on Carter's opponent,

799
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan. Once again, Dylan feared he'd been had. It

800
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: was nearly andy the answer all over again positively fuck Street.

801
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: Then a headline caught Dylan's eye. It was Watergate, the

802
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: story that wouldn't die. G. Gordon Lyddy that jack booted

803
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: thug was back in the news, talking DC prostitutes, talking

804
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: Becca handled Blues. Bob Dylan, of course recognized Becka's name.

805
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 1: That that didn't rattle him. What rattled him was another detail.

806
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 1: According to G. Gordon Lyddy, one of the Watergate burglars

807
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: was arrested with a key in his pocket, and that

808
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: key belonged to Becca Handel, the madam of the Watergate prostitutionary.

809
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: What did Bob Dylan think about this news?

810
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 2: Then?

811
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: We don't know. But what does Bob Dylan think about

812
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: all of this? Now? What does Bob Dylan think about

813
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: this final mention of him in the FBI files Again

814
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: another memo from nineteen seventy two, but another recently released

815
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: as part of the JFK assassination document disclosure which reads

816
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: two director FBI one zero zero dash three eight four

817
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: five six zero from Sac, Washington, d C one zero

818
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: zero dash one zero eight five five two eight Subject

819
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: Frank Carter, Watergate burglar. Frank Carter aka Bernard Barker of

820
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: the CIA was apprehended at the Watergate Complex in connection

821
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: with DNC offices Burglary. Local authorities reported that on his

822
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: person approximately two hundred and thirty four dollars in cash

823
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: was confiscated, along with a walkie talk penn Rolex watch

824
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: and a small gold key and folded piece of paper.

825
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: The key is believed to be the key for Mishandle's

826
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: Watergate Commercial Holdings office desk. The paper's origin is unknown.

827
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: Photographic evidence of the paper attached herein reveals only the

828
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: words co stay. There are no theories regarding the origins

829
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: of this paper note, but the key is believed to

830
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 1: have been given to agent Frank Carter by FBI source.

831
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: William Anderson aka Billy A aka Wild Bill aka Billy

832
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: the Kid aka Willie Anderstein aka the Magnificent Anderson aka

833
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 1: Andy Andy. How many other Andys were at the Watergate

834
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: Complex on that day, June seventeenth, nineteen seventy two, and

835
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: had their hands on a small gold key and a

836
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: crumpled up piece of paper inscribed with the words co

837
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: stay CO stay, with the final scribblings of the final

838
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: sentence in the note that Bob Dylan wrote on behalf

839
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: of John Lennon. Let John and Yoko stay CO stay.

840
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan gave that letter to Andy, who is surveiling

841
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: Dylan for the FBI. We now know this because of

842
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: the unredacted FBI file from the trove of newly released

843
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 1: jfk assassination documents. Andy is the dude in that first

844
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: FBI file from way back in nineteen sixty three, his

845
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: name redacted. Surveiling Bob Dylan. I believe that it was

846
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: Andy who broke into Becca Handel's office to steal the

847
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: prostitution photos, and that he took the spare key so

848
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 1: that he could relock the desk drawer. He then took

849
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: that key and folded it into part of the letter

850
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 1: Dylan gave him and handed it to Watergate burglar Frank Carter,

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Speaker 1: as proven in this FBI file. This newly disclosed FBI

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Speaker 1: document proves that the key in the letter come from

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Speaker 1: an FBI source, and that the source's name was Andy,

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Speaker 1: And that proves that the FBI had something to do

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Speaker 1: with the Watergate break in along with the CIA. And

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Speaker 1: that proves that the FBI had a corrupt interest in

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Speaker 1: feeding through Deep Throat aka Mark Felt aka the second

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Speaker 1: most powerful man in the FBI at the time, feeding

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Speaker 1: deep throat information to Bob Woodward and Carl fucking Bernstein

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Speaker 1: to help them take down the president. The FBI was

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Speaker 1: there that night with the CIA. It wasn't just the CIA.

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Speaker 1: We now know that because of Bob Dylan's recently disclosed

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Speaker 1: relationship with the FBI source, Andy the Answer, I believe

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Speaker 1: Andy the Answer or Andy Answers or William Anderson or

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Speaker 1: whatever the fuck his real name was surreptitiously use Bob

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Speaker 1: Dylan to distract his girlfriend, Becca Handle so that he

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Speaker 1: could break into her office and plant incriminating evidence to

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Speaker 1: frame democratic operatives as part of the Watergate plan. From there,

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Speaker 1: the FBI took over from the CIA and, like I said,

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Speaker 1: use their man deep Throat to help Woodward and Bernstein

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Speaker 1: take down the president. Was the Watergate so called scandal

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Speaker 1: uncovered by a heroic feet of investigative journalism by a

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Speaker 1: former Naval intelligence officer, Bob Woodward and his dopey rock

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Speaker 1: journalist buddy Carl Bernstein. Or was it an informational scia

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Speaker 1: spoon fed to these two Washington Post reporters by a

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Speaker 1: seasoned FBI man posing as a noble source with an

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Speaker 1: agenda to shape public opinions strongly against Richard Nixon so

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Speaker 1: as to leave the president no option but to resign

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Speaker 1: or face impeachment. This document indisputably proves the Watergate prostitution

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Speaker 1: ring theory, and it very nearly proves that not only

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00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: did the FBI and CIA collude to take down Nixon themselves,

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Speaker 1: but that they did it with the unwitting help of

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Speaker 1: Bob Dylon, whom they'd had under watch for nearly a decade. Again,

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Speaker 1: as the FBI files, both the ones that have been

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Speaker 1: public for years and the ones that have been recently

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Speaker 1: released prove. And what does Bob Dylan think of all this?

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Speaker 1: He must know, right, I believe Bob Dylan first realized

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Speaker 1: what he had done years after Watergate in nineteen seventy nine,

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Speaker 1: in the back of that limo. As I mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 1: as reported in Jeff Taylor and Chad Israelson's book The

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Speaker 1: Political World of Bob Dylan. You can check that out.

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Speaker 1: I believe Bob Dylan's guilt over his part in Watergate

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Speaker 1: is what led to his conversion to Christianity. Dylan knew it.

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Speaker 1: He knew that that kind of power was dangerous, not

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Speaker 1: worth getting too close to. It's why he avoided politics

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Speaker 1: until he didn't by writing that damn letter, and the

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Speaker 1: results were disastrous. Writing the letter distracted Dylan. He allowed

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Speaker 1: himself to be taken advantage of by Andy, insisting he

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Speaker 1: called Becca. Andy used his power to manipulate Bob in

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Speaker 1: the unwittingly manipulating the will of millions of Americans, overturning

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Speaker 1: an election where the vast, vast majority of citizens voted

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Speaker 1: for Richard Nixon to become their president, in an election

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Speaker 1: where Nixon won every single state except Massachusetts. Richard Nixon

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Speaker 1: was not a great president. He was petty, paranoid, and

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Speaker 1: abused the power bestowed upon him. But Richard Nixon was

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Speaker 1: set to reveal an even bigger abuse of power the

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Speaker 1: assassination of President Kennedy at the hands of his Central

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Speaker 1: Intelligence Agency, and as a result, that same agency, along

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Speaker 1: with the help of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, neutralized

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Speaker 1: Nixon by orchestrating a secret coupdeta that preyed upon Tricky

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Speaker 1: Dick's obvious flaws. The presidency is a very powerful position.

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Speaker 1: But those who can overthrow a president twice, those who

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Speaker 1: can openly upend the will of millions of Americans, those

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Speaker 1: who can completely subvert democracy by utilizing the power of bureaucracy.

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Speaker 1: That's a truly disgraceful kind of power, in a disgrace

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Speaker 1: that a powerless protest singer named Bob Dylan unknowingly helped engineer.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jake Brennan and this is April Fools episode of Disgraceland. Well, well, well,

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Speaker 1: did I get you? I don't know. I can never

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Speaker 1: tell with these things. I know I got you before

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Speaker 1: in the past. I don't know if I got you here.

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Speaker 1: I hope I did, And if I did, I hope

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Speaker 1: you're not too pissed at me. All right, No, Bob Dylan,

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Speaker 1: he did not have anything to do with Watergate, aside

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Speaker 1: from actually staying at the Watergate hotel while on tour

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Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies. That's kind of what gave you

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Speaker 1: this idea other than claiming that Dylan was responsible for

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Speaker 1: the Watergate breaking. Other than that in the last two

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Speaker 1: FBI files that I read to you, pretty much everything

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Speaker 1: in this episode is fact. The Dylan fight with Weberman,

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Speaker 1: the Watergate prostitution ring conspiracy theory. That's an actual conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 1: It was litigated in court. I believe the fifty five

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Speaker 1: families true. All that's true. Me working with Carl Bernstein

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Speaker 1: that's true as well. And despite this episode being satire,

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Speaker 1: nothing in here disproves the theory that Nixon was set

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Speaker 1: up by a CIA with Watergate, which due to the

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Speaker 1: JFK files, I am beginning to believe this theory more

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Speaker 1: and more as fact, but I'm not quite there yet.

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Speaker 1: I'll have more on all of this and this week's

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Speaker 1: After Party Bonus episode, where we're going to dive deeper

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Speaker 1: into the making of this episode and separate the historical

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Speaker 1: facts in my story here from historical fiction. In the meantime,

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Speaker 1: which is which songwriter best spoke for your generation? Was

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Speaker 1: A Bob Dylan, Kurt Cobain, Kendrick Taylor Hit me I

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