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Speaker 2: we've of course got the impeccable Jared Newman of the

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Speaker 2: Advisorate newsletter. Hey, the returning guest for several years now, well,

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Speaker 2: I mean it's only been one. It just feels like Manny.

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Speaker 2: And of course the incredible actress and stand up comedian

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Speaker 2: Chloe Radcliffe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fresh off the elliptical in your hotels.

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Speaker 2: Thiswee I've been doing podcasting, So Chrisa, We're gonna start

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Speaker 2: with you because you saw something I could not see

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Speaker 2: moving every time I went by the LG. Cloyd Laundry

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Speaker 2: folding robot. How was that You said it here that

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Speaker 2: it folded laundry and served food very slowly. Give me

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Speaker 2: an idea of how slowly.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's a TikTok in that story that you can see,

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Speaker 1: and one of the top comments was it'll take three

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Speaker 1: weeks to do your laundry at this pace, right, And

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was slow because for the

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Speaker 1: demo purposes, they're trying to draw it out, make it

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Speaker 1: more traumatic. But it started off with it was out

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Speaker 1: of washing machine, and it's trying to pull something out

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Speaker 1: of a hamper put load it into the washing machine.

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Speaker 1: It's and it just is doing it so slow, but

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Speaker 1: it takes its time kind of picking it up.

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Speaker 2: Does it have any trouble?

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Speaker 1: Does it have trouble picking it up? Really, it's just

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Speaker 1: it's not really clear why it takes so long. It's

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Speaker 1: just like I think the arms are just kind of

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Speaker 1: calculating maybe, like each little movement slowly puts it in,

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Speaker 1: slowly closes the washing machine door, slowly rolls over to

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Speaker 1: a table, there's like a pile of wash glass, slowly

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Speaker 1: picks one up, slowly starts folding it like just excruciating

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Speaker 1: and then it picks up the folded thing and then

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Speaker 1: it messes.

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Speaker 2: Up a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Did it fix the mess up?

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Speaker 1: No, but there was like an LG person. I just

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Speaker 1: had an arm reach out and they.

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Speaker 2: When you say, mess it up house.

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Speaker 1: Like it was folded like if you imagine something that's

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Speaker 1: very symmetrically right folded, and then when it it's robot

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Speaker 1: hand picks it up like the top corner just comes,

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Speaker 1: it comes unaligned.

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Speaker 4: Awesome.

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Speaker 2: How much is this row boat? Did they say anything

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Speaker 2: like that?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't think they're going to sell it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's always what happens with laundry folding.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, then no, that's like the there's a rich

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Speaker 5: history of CS and laundry laundry mate here. Oh they

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Speaker 5: all went, we love laundry, mate laundry may I think

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Speaker 5: I've been coming to see us a twenty eleven.

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Speaker 2: They dead. Finally they're dead. All the all the twenty

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Speaker 2: ten's ones are dead. That's yeah, that's look what they

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Speaker 2: took from us. So, yeah, you also said it served food.

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing it also did that weirdly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, walked out, roll sorry, rolled over. It

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Speaker 1: did not have legs. It has like a weeled kind

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Speaker 1: of robot vacuum. It has arms and like a head unit.

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Speaker 2: Take a look at that. Look at that piece of ship.

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Speaker 4: A head unit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they called it.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: The they're kind of selling this as it works with

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Speaker 1: all of Elgie's appliances. When it rolls over to the fridge,

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Speaker 1: the fridge opens, it pulls out your milk, rolls over

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Speaker 2: That's so bad and like I'm guessing it would only

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Speaker 2: be compatible with the LG stuff. Is this just a concept?

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Speaker 1: Yes, it is a concept, So, I mean the whole

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Speaker 1: presentation it kind of felt like watching something at Disneyland. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there was like very high production value. They had this

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Speaker 1: that included a video that was playing, and they invented

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Speaker 1: this story about this family and how this how Cloyd

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Speaker 1: help really slowly, yeah my kids make the breakfast. And

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Speaker 1: But then if you read the book, can it, well,

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Speaker 1: if you read the press release, what they say is well,

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Speaker 1: but they don't say anything about actually making Cloyd selling it.

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Speaker 1: The only thing that they mentioned is roboticized appliances like

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Speaker 1: feel like they're selling us the robot but what they're

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Speaker 4: Like a fridge with a trunk off of a new suv.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, button in it, but no, no, you have

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Speaker 2: to get like the seven thousand dollars lg one that

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Speaker 2: you can kick to open.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that these things. I just want the coldest

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Speaker 2: possible diet coke because that too much to ask. Also,

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Speaker 2: is its name Cloyd, Yeah, cloid, but the eye is

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Speaker 2: small for some reason. Just it's so strange to do

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Speaker 2: this thing. And it got all the headlines and was

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Speaker 2: going robot this is the year of robotics a CS

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Speaker 2: and the most famous one is not being released. No,

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Speaker 2: And if you it's great, you can have breakfast ready

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Speaker 2: if you started at one am, like just like this incredibly,

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Speaker 2: sloth from Zootopia just fucking yeah. Yeah, it's so what

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Speaker 2: a strange thing to do, because if that worked much faster,

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Speaker 2: it would be kind of cool. Man, that's the es.

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Speaker 2: But it's like it's just not being released. They just

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think you said it. They got all

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Speaker 1: the headlines. It looks cool. I think they're trying to

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Speaker 1: trying to We're finally seeing that some of them are

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Speaker 1: this into real products. Like I think it's probably just

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Speaker 1: not feasible. This thing is huge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how big was it?

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Speaker 1: I would say I didn't get close to it because

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Speaker 3: I'm realizing I actually think I saw. I don't think

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Speaker 3: I saw the laundry demo or I saw I saw

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Speaker 3: some portion of the demo, because what I noticed about it,

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Speaker 4: Are very charming to run the demo.

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Speaker 3: Because the guy I don't know if the guy who

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Speaker 3: do you anything else that you can do and help

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Speaker 4: And it's like, yeah, of course, I guess.

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Speaker 2: I could Cloyd shrink my shit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean truly, it's like, Cloyd, do you

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Speaker 3: So maybe I will buy the robot.

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Speaker 4: It seems to sort.

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Speaker 2: Of what you cannot do demo, You cannot do either.

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Speaker 4: No, can't do either. But yeah it is it's a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's why I said, it's kind of like

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Speaker 1: very carefully orchestrated, uh demo that they set up, and

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Speaker 1: trying to say is going to be the future, I guess.

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Speaker 1: And when you're watching it, you're like, oh, that's it's

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Speaker 1: pretty neat. Like all of that look works together. The

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Speaker 1: That guy's keys. But then you like think about it

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Speaker 2: So like a very clean house, which is traditionally not

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Speaker 2: where you lose your keys. Yeah, it's not like you

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Speaker 2: lose it in an empty room and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's in the corner, not underneath something.

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Speaker 3: And also if the way that the robot is going

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Speaker 1: And also the robot doesn't have legs, so if your

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Speaker 3: A very ball pop on a segway coated where you

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Speaker 2: It like a dollar. Just like so you also saw

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Speaker 2: this switchbot switchbots, which they have a laundry folding robots,

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Speaker 2: and how is that if you see saw that what happened? Well,

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Speaker 2: I didn't see it fold laundry.

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Speaker 5: So they because they they had it out and they

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Speaker 5: to see it fold laundry. This is what I came

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Speaker 5: over to one piece of laundry and I was like, great,

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Speaker 5: it's going to fold the laundry. It very slowly picked

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Speaker 5: slight close the door, and then waited another five minutes,

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Speaker 2: Of You know, this is like a heavily prepped demo.

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Speaker 2: They've had to go through a lot like the Boston

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Speaker 2: Dynamics videos where they like show the robot working one

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Speaker 2: hundred takes one hundred takes with the robot just like

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Speaker 2: rolls on its back somehow like explodes. I love this.

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Speaker 2: I love that they're trying to pretend it's just like fraud,

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Speaker 2: Like there's there's something very fraudulent about this. Like the

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Speaker 2: robots are here, Yes, they're here, but are they able

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Speaker 2: to do anything? Yes? Kind of. If I needed someone

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Speaker 2: to very slowly put laundry in my washing machine and

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Speaker 2: eventually do it like I would.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say I stand first five minutes, completely

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Speaker 3: still resisting folding laundry, slowly move lunch show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Does the robot look at its phone and scroll Instagram

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Speaker 2: for like seventeen minutes before it puts in one T shirt?

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Speaker 2: And does it? Can you program it to leave the

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Speaker 5: It is a very hard problem to solve, like anything

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm having a right now as a stand up

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Speaker 4: Okay, Nope, that I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You guys writing this down. Yes, it's meed in the tube. Okay,

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Speaker 5: You even have to identify though, like where the edges

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Speaker 2: It's just lasers you describe me. It's like, what do

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Speaker 2: Not really? Launch, not really TikTok. You want to be

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Speaker 5: They're back and it's you know, it's one of those

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Speaker 2: You know. It's like these people.

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Speaker 5: That, yeah, they know it's not for everybody. They just

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Speaker 5: When I respect that kind of thing. I think the

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Speaker 4: That's cool.

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Speaker 4: But you can break state law.

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Speaker 4: It's a two party consent.

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Speaker 2: New York was one.

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Speaker 4: No, I believe in you because I break it all

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Speaker 3: Just a admit that on a podcast and then be

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Speaker 2: She meant parody she meant but so it's just a rook.

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Speaker 2: transcribe that I've never listened to a single episode of

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Speaker 3: That reporting live on the pebble index ring. It really

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Speaker 2: Let me see. Let me see when it has a

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Speaker 2: sketchy ring its supports me.

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Speaker 2: It's like like the hat that Homer Simpson wall with

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Speaker 2: just clicking this non descript slack. Yeah, what are you doing? Nothing?

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Speaker 2: It's an odd Now say all the crimes you committed,

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Speaker 2: I can't move my thumb at all. I now actually

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Speaker 2: That's fine, it's you know what I mean, even the

442
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Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt, they wouldn't do something so fucking stupid. Yeah,

443
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:38,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna the.

444
00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 4: Fun to watch and changes just like they're like, oh,

445
00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:42,600
Speaker 4: I like that.

446
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,560
Speaker 3: Everything, then hearing something the like becoming an aftimist and

447
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,400
Speaker 3: then immediately be like no, no, no no.

448
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,760
Speaker 2: That's a good instinct to have. That. Also, we've got

449
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 2: plenty of people who want We got Blanny, We've got

450
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 2: we got fucking cell side analysts there as well. Chris,

451
00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,640
Speaker 2: there anything you've been enjoying.

452
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 1: I saw some robotic sneakers that were kind of cool.

453
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Speaker 2: Tell me more, what do you mean?

454
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:09,920
Speaker 1: So they're sneakers that attached to a kind of exoskeleton. Oh,

455
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 1: and they're meant for people who can't like walk long

456
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Speaker 1: distances or want to be able to.

457
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,120
Speaker 2: Walk at Robert Evans has been using like an exoskeleton. Io.

458
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:19,919
Speaker 2: Please tell me what.

459
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, these ones are different. They attached to a special

460
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 1: shoe and they're battery powered, and then you can kind

461
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,120
Speaker 1: of it learns your gate the first twenty steps or so,

462
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 1: and then as you're walking, it just kind of like

463
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 1: pushes you up a little bit. It's a very strange

464
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Speaker 1: sensation for somebody who doesn't happen. Really it doesn't really

465
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 1: have trouble walking. But like three hours later, I was

466
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 1: my feet were hurting so bad after being on them

467
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 1: for four or five hours, and I was thinking, like,

468
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Speaker 1: maybe that feel kind of good right now I've.

469
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Speaker 2: Got an ankle injury. That sounds great. I did see another one,

470
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 2: and every time I see them, like my hateriends think

471
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,880
Speaker 2: kicks in and I'm like, no, actually, this is what

472
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 2: technology should do. Yeah, that it can help you if

473
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,119
Speaker 2: you'd be walking too much or if you have serious

474
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Speaker 2: mobility issues.

475
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 1: The downside, as it cost forty five hundred dollars.

476
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,239
Speaker 2: That actually doesn't surprise me. Yeah like that if I

477
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 2: hear that, and I'm like, okay, it literally helps people

478
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 2: who can't walk much walk forty five hundred, and I'm

479
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,479
Speaker 2: like that's actually reasonable. I did see a few of them,

480
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,679
Speaker 2: but I'm actually kind of excited to see that because

481
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, like I realized it just went from

482
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 2: being a huge hate. But like I have tons of

483
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 2: like several family members with mobility issues. My mom like it.

484
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 2: I myself. My ankle when it gets bad, really gets

485
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 2: fucked up, and I can't walk, like literally two weeks

486
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 2: ago is having problems with my feet. It's quite lovely.

487
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Speaker 3: Well, you are consistent in what you in, what you

488
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 3: like and don't like. Yeah, and that is is there

489
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 3: a tangible, describable.

490
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Speaker 4: Problem that this is solving.

491
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 3: Yes, And I think the more physical, not necessarily like corporal,

492
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 3: but the more physical a problem, the more you are

493
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 3: going to be inclined to like the tech presentation of

494
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Speaker 3: a solution exactly.

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Speaker 2: And it's like I think, I also, I don't know.

496
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Speaker 2: I think that's what technology is meant to do. It's

497
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 2: meant to allow you to do things you can't do,

498
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 2: to streamline things, to make things easier. That's cool, And

499
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 2: there were quite a few of them. I want more

500
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 2: of this shit, like let those who can't will walk.

501
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 2: That's if is there anything more technological than that? Yeah?

502
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 1: The accessibility stuff is actually kind of interesting. I'm always

503
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 1: looking out for that.

504
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

505
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 1: I was writing about it this year and so many

506
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 1: times It's hard to find anything like that because so

507
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: much of it is just yeah, cramming tech into products

508
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 1: that don't need it, or you know, the the crap

509
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 1: that we're used to seeing here, smart belts and just

510
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 1: weird stuff.

511
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 2: So whenever their belts.

512
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Speaker 1: Do you have a belty from like years ago?

513
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 2: Wait, do you kind of remember that? Yeah, Belty, it's

514
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 2: called Belty. What is belty? Oh man?

515
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 1: This is from probably ten years ago. It was a

516
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 1: smart belt. Do you remember that year at CS when

517
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 1: like Internet of Things was kind of just yeah, and

518
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 1: like everything was just like a flower pot that's connected

519
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: to the Internet of this and it was a belt

520
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: that I think could automatically adjust, like it's like maybe

521
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 1: you eat more or something.

522
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Speaker 7: Oh God, well, sorry, I'm my fifth piece of chicken. Well,

523
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 7: actually we're gonna go back to shape robots though, because

524
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 7: everyone has kind of mentioned Agi bought or Aggie.

525
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: Bott to have the fun. He says, and this is

526
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 2: the TikTok robot. You saw what was that?

527
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's two. They have two different humanoids. One

528
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: is a smaller one that was the Dancy one has

529
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: like these bright yellow shoes. They have a larger one

530
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: that's about about five feel like my hey, maybe, and

531
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: they are humanoid robots. They can walk around, the little

532
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 1: one can dance. They have some kind of like AI

533
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 1: functionality in them. So they're meant like the large one.

534
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Speaker 1: What they explained to me is that it's meant for

535
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 1: kind of like either for businesses hospitality use cases, like

536
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: maybe you put one in a museum and it can

537
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Speaker 1: like welcome guests and kind of like show them where

538
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 1: to go.

539
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 2: Or trying do that though.

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00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what's interesting is this is a Chinese company

541
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Speaker 1: that's making them Okay, and they already have sold several

542
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: thousands in China. We went we went to another robotics

543
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: company booth, and the whole spiel of this booth was

544
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: that the booth is run entirely by robots, and there's

545
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: like a human guy there who's kind of like can

546
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: answer a question for if you want, But the booth

547
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: is just these two robots. And they were the Agibot robots.

548
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 1: And so the larger one was there and it was

549
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: had a little microphone. You could talk to it and

550
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: you could have this like interaction with it. So I

551
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: came up and I was like okay, roast me okay,

552
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: and it actually, like you know, it started off kind

553
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 1: of tame, it.

554
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 4: Was, but then it got pretty mean.

555
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

556
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Speaker 1: Well then I said, I was like, actually, I was like,

557
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: can you be a meaner? Like can you do more?

558
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: And then not too bad? It made fun of what

559
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: I was wearing and.

560
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 4: Couldn't see what you were wearing?

561
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah I could.

562
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: And then at the end I was like, okay, well

563
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: you know, all good, let's have a fist bump and

564
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: it was like great, and it actually did.

565
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Speaker 3: What did it say about what you were wearing? I

566
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 3: want to judge this from a joke atic.

567
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 1: Honestly, I don't remember exactly. It was just kind of

568
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 1: was like, oh, and you're wearing that, Like I like,

569
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: you're making fun of me, but like you're like it

570
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: was it was kind.

571
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 5: Of generic, but okay, then you wanted to turn into

572
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 5: the boxing robots.

573
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, I wanted it to be Ruda. I want

574
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 2: to find this thing and.

575
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: You're able to have like a back and forth. There's

576
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 1: a slight delay when you say something, maybe maybe two

577
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: three seconds for it to come up with a response,

578
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: but you can actually and its voice actually sounded pretty

579
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: natural in a way that most robot vice models.

580
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 2: Was it like, was it using a model? Was it like,

581
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: did they explain any of that it is?

582
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I imagine that that company it was

583
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: called into Bot. That was the booth that had these

584
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 1: like customized versions.

585
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 2: And that wasn't was that Aggie Bob.

586
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: Yes, it was an Agibot robot, but the company that

587
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: was showing them off was into Bot, and I guess

588
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: they had customized They had bought these robots and somehow

589
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: customize them for there.

590
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 4: But the what you're chatting with, it's not just chat

591
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 4: gbt no or open ai or whatever.

592
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a combination of things. I think

593
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: they probably use several different models and then they also

594
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: have like cameras and sensors so they know you know.

595
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 2: About Tannemon Square. I'm sorry, I want to admit I

596
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 2: want to be like, what do you think of Winnie

597
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 2: the Pooh? And it just goes just because like just

598
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: looks at me personally us you look fam Fuck. No,

599
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna say it sounds like it worked, which

600
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 2: is unusual. That's genuinely U.

601
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 4: The nicest thing you say about a robot.

602
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: It works kind of, But what was the what's the

603
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: what was the purpose?

604
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: For into bot. Yeah, I'm actually not sure because we

605
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: just went because we wanted to.

606
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 2: Like the show. God, their whole face is.

607
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: That our boat is just run by robots, so we're like, well,

608
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: we got to go check that out. And then we

609
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: just we talked to it and made a TikTok and

610
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 1: I didn't find out what they're trying to do with them.

611
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 5: But you should have asked it, like can you grab

612
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 5: me some press materials in hand them to me?

613
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 2: And it would like fail and it starts trying to

614
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: fold them. Oh my god, I love it. We get

615
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 2: to things like yeah, it works. What's why though, and

616
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 2: they're like, oh fuck, I we just did this for

617
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: the yucks. It could introduce you to a museum, so off.

618
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 3: Okay on the broader theme of why though, Yeah, I

619
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 3: was walking around today at the convention Center and wondering

620
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: what is the not what is the point of CS,

621
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 3: but pretty close, like how effective is CS and in

622
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 3: what way for the majority of people who are here?

623
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 3: Well that's sort of I'm asking as a complete naive user,

624
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 3: you know, Like, but it's like, are people I understand that?

625
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: Like there were buyers from Sam's Club walking around being like.

626
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 4: We're looking for a new I don't know what the

627
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 4: fuck they're looking.

628
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 3: For, but like I understand that if you like, there's

629
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 3: you know, some small proportion of buyers who are looking

630
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 3: for some small proportion of specific tech. But like a

631
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: lot of people, it seems like they're just sort of

632
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 3: in booths showing off stuff that like largely already exists,

633
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 3: maybe with like a slightly new extra spice, but like

634
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 3: for the most part, it's not blowing anybody's minds. And

635
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: then a lot of people are walking by picking it up,

636
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,719
Speaker 3: going oh, setting it down and continuing walking, And it's like,

637
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 3: what effect beyond just like a trip to Vegas that

638
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: is justifiable via work, what effect is this having in

639
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: most people?

640
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 5: I mean, as somebody who's I'm not super pessimistic about

641
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 5: CES despite.

642
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: How ridiculous you've been here longer. I don't know. I guess,

643
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 2: I guess for me, And maybe this is the point too.

644
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 2: You love leaflets.

645
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 5: I love leaflets, No, I just you know, there's probably

646
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 5: some value in just getting a bunch of people into

647
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 5: one place that we don't have anymore.

648
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: You know, we're gonna we're going to rotate rows, We're

649
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 2: going to go to an ad break. Coming up now

650
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: an advertisement for Chumley, the robot that's based on Chumley

651
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: from Pawn Stars. A word I cannot say. People think

652
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: I am talking about pornography. And we're back in the

653
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: room and once again we're joined by Charisabella ven Gadget Hello,

654
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: Jared Newman of the advisory and newsletter Yo and nearly

655
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 2: said newsletter wrong. And of course Coloie Radleff, actress of

656
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: is this thing on in the standup Comedian? And we're

657
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: back and we're just talking about how and why people

658
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: do see yes, And I'm getting this prevailing just feeling

659
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: about conferences. Conferences in general, Jesus Christ. They are just

660
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: there to give people something to do, like they put

661
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Speaker 2: people in a room. Yeah, there's an extent like I'm

662
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: gonna admit I don't go to conferences in general. I

663
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: never have non pr FIR and since twenty twelve, like

664
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: I've just not gone. It's never affected every time I've

665
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: gone to a conference other than ces, I've just been

666
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: like why and it's like, oh, we got to meet

667
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: sale people from this and it's like okay, but but

668
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: why though? And there's so much stuff here aspect if

669
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: This year feels like a landmark year for just shit

670
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: that don't exist. And I say that remembering the Web

671
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 2: three metaverse year. Even that one, they seem to be like,

672
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: we have a new thinner TV that's also wet for

673
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: some reason, like like we they were trying new things

674
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 2: of TVs and soundbars, and I guess we've got some

675
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: of that. But it feels dominated by just vapor where

676
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: vapor were like maybe it was worse during the Indiego

677
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: Go boom. You remember the twenty fourteen twenty fifteen Indiego

678
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: Go boom, when they was.

679
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 5: Just fine of the bowels of the Venetian the Eureka Hole,

680
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 5: where it was just like the most insane shit, like

681
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 5: it's a cooler that's also a razor blade to kill people.

682
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: Actually, no, that's the thing. Indigo the Indiegogo fraud generation

683
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: was fucking cool because it was just shit that was

684
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: impossible to make. And we've raised five hundred thousand dollars.

685
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: The money laundering operations that go through Indiegogo have funded

686
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: this and I will deliver it in ten years and

687
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: then the company will shut down in three.

688
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 4: Like that.

689
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: I found kind of like honest laundry folding robots laundry

690
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: made rip and piss like they the most obvious fake one.

691
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: I respect they got like fo this it was like

692
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: a tower laundry Mate. It was like this weird tower

693
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: and it was never clear how it worked. And every

694
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: year they were like, next year, there's this hidden consumers,

695
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: and then they just died.

696
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: The only landering that Indiegogoeah robots can do is financing.

697
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: Yes, but I feel like this is like a legendary

698
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: year because they're trying to pretend robots work. They tried,

699
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: because the reason you can't do robots mass for mass consuming,

700
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 2: mass consumer audiences is because training for edge cases is

701
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: fucking difficult. I don't know, it's it's a shame because

702
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: I'd love a robot.

703
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 5: I'd love well, I think I think a laundry folding

704
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 5: robot is like a billion dollar idea if it actually works.

705
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: But I had this tube idea.

706
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Speaker 1: Have you heard of indigogo?

707
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, the tubat is a little real for Indy Goka,

708
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: We've got to do like a movie that never gets made,

709
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: or like a card game made by like a disgrace substacker,

710
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: like or a board game by a guy with an

711
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: allegation section on Wikipedia, Like that's all we do want here.

712
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: It's just weird because I say this with a little

713
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: sadness because like I may seem like broken heart romantic.

714
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: If we had like an actual laundry folding robot, that's cool. Yeah,

715
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: that'd be cool. I'd love that. Did you did you

716
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: were on the show floor? Yes? So what did you

717
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: see and what did you like? That's a fucking long.

718
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: I walked around, I walked I walked around Eureka Park

719
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: today and I walked around. I was about to say,

720
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: keny a hall those you know the sky that ken

721
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: toy Your Hall if you don't know, is so E

722
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: three is the former games Journalism, the game's equivalent of

723
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: this show, and Keny your Hall was like the scariest

724
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: place to go with the media badge. You go down there,

725
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: every head would snap to your media badge, stop citizen

726
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: like marrow Wind, like you'd stolen a piece of bread

727
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: from a shop keep. And because they want to talk

728
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: to you. Because games is just games right about the game.

729
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 5: This was all the very small like developers that had

730
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 5: nothing going on and so like not like you know,

731
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 5: like like one division.

732
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is it for them, and I went to

733
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 2: Eureka Park and everything I saw was a chat GPT

734
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: wrapper and I went upstairs and I was like, fuck

735
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: me up, show me something, and I saw a WiFi barbecue.

736
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: I feel like I see i'ms every fucking year, and

737
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: I wanted to see so I didn't even see anything funny.

738
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: I was.

739
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 5: I was trying to noodle on this idea, like I

740
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 5: don't think this is the right term, but like AI

741
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 5: slop product, you know what I'm talking You know, there's

742
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 5: a real slop.

743
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: Nature to it. It was just like, what is it you

744
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: want a document analysis? Yes?

745
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 5: Well, also like, well, like an example I'm thinking of

746
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 5: is like I think it was high sense. Like they

747
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 5: had a oven and then the oven had like a

748
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 5: very small display on it, smaller than a phone, and

749
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 5: they were showing like you could be like I'm in

750
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 5: the mood for pizza, and then it would like generate

751
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 5: a pizza recipe for you, you know what I mean.

752
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 5: So it's like the recipe itself is sloped. But then

753
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 5: also like the implementation of AI is slopped, you know

754
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 5: what I mean.

755
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 2: You're just looking at this tiny little screen. It's like

756
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 2: roll on the dough.

757
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 3: It's just and again, and I've made this point before

758
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 3: on this very podcast earlier today and yesterday, but just

759
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: to reiterate, if you are going to look up a

760
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 3: pizza recipe, you're gonna look it up on your phone,

761
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 3: which is a small screen, of course, and then if

762
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: you look it up on you're smart oven, you are

763
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: also looking it up on a small screen. It is

764
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 3: not eliminating any step in the process or any screen

765
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: in the.

766
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 2: So it'll it will turn the oven on for you.

767
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 4: Oh fuck this, fuck it'll turn the oven on.

768
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: Fuck this happened to you? And just bashing.

769
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Speaker 3: If damn woman, I know this instinctive, but I do

770
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: not make happen.

771
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 2: It's like a Tim Rubinson bit, what do I do?

772
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: What do I know? And then the street goes to

773
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: turn on oven. Finally, It's like the thing they keep

774
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 2: coming back to that I actually liked was just a

775
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: fifteen hundred dollars TV with a boot and soundbar with

776
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: like micro led. I was just like, fuck, yeah, great, awesome.

777
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 2: TVs are getting thinner and they're getting soundbars in them,

778
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 2: and that's why everything has AI in it, because it's

779
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 2: very clear that it's becoming really cheap to make thin

780
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 2: and big, good looking televisions. The actual difference between like

781
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: a fancy fucking LG one and a combination of different

782
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 2: letters you can buy on Amazon that most people can't

783
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: fucking tell them.

784
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 5: Sorry, it's it's that is that's a whole other thing.

785
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 5: But yeah, there's like micro led and now MI micro RGB.

786
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, uh, both of them.

787
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 5: If you stand in front of them, it looks like

788
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 5: you're like looking into the eye of God, but like

789
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 5: they're kind of the same.

790
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: But I kind of I love it. I genuinely, genuinely

791
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 2: love the fact that like a good looking TV's easy

792
00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 2: yeah now, and you can get them everyone. They're really

793
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 2: like really good, Like even the kind of cheap cheap

794
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: ones are pretty good. Like, yeah, I can not. It's

795
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: the difference because I stare at screens all the time.

796
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: But I think most people would be really happy otherwise

797
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 2: I'm just like show I wanna like some I genuinely

798
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: I would love to. I would love to be taken

799
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: by the magic of cees. It doesn't the magic's got

800
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: like it.

801
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: What do you think would other than a laundry folding robot?

802
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: What do you think would like what would take you

803
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 3: what would so?

804
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 2: I think anyway, there are like magical ideas they've had,

805
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: like wireless power that it fill hiss me talking about

806
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 2: who come and fucking kill me? But like wireless power,

807
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 2: Bluetooth that works, perhaps unbreakable Bluetooth would be very popular

808
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: at c yes where Bluetooth My fucking headphones come out constantly,

809
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: like something like that might be kind of a boring demo,

810
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: but it's like I don't know a Wi Fi router

811
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: that doesn't stop working after six months, Like every problem

812
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 2: is just like shit sucks.

813
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 5: TP link has a router with a AI agent now

814
00:36:59,120 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 5: that you can talk to.

815
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: That's cool. I go to TP deco.

816
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 5: TP link deco I had to throw away because also

817
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 5: fucking if I won't work, but you can like kiel

818
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 5: at it and therapy for.

819
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 2: You from TP link. You listen to this deco, fucking sucks.

820
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: It blows you suck. I spend so much money on that.

821
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: I can't even fucking ceremony. By goddamn, did you.

822
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: See that Kia smart home stuff?

823
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: No tell me tell me about that.

824
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: So that was one that we thought was pretty cool.

825
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: A couple of my colleagues saw it. It was they have

826
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: a whole new line of like smart plugs, smart light bulbs,

827
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: like okay, connected home stuff very like kind of boring,

828
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: but the stuff that you want for I Kia, like

829
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 1: cheap connected light bulbs and smart plugs that will actually

830
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: work and like work with real IoT standards that you

831
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: want and not you I don't know if anyone here

832
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: has tried to install smart bulbs in their homes and

833
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: they're they're extremely expensive, or they're like really cheap like

834
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: off brand ones from Amazon that never end up working,

835
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: or like the app breaks the company goes under, and like, yeah,

836
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: you kind of want a company that's used to making

837
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,959
Speaker 1: forty million of everything, Yeah, this kind of thing, because

838
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: then you just know it's always like.

839
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 4: An industrial Yeah it's gonna work, and it will.

840
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 3: They can do it at scale in a way that

841
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 3: makes us be able to pay a reasonable price.

842
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 5: We have we have four light bulbs in our bedroom,

843
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 5: and so I will be like Alexa, turn off the

844
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 5: lights and about about like ten percent of the time

845
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 5: one of the lights will stay on.

846
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: Of the four, I have Lotron in my house, and

847
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: one day the bulx just stopped connecting, so I just

848
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: have to use the fucking light switch and I'm so

849
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: spiteful that I just refuse. But wait, it sounds like

850
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 2: this stuns work though, Carissa.

851
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't tried them, but I mean it's akia

852
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: so I feel like we have I have, I have

853
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: decent amount of confidence.

854
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 2: That Okay, they can do this, I hope.

855
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: So.

856
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I have some smart light bulbs in my

857
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: home and they're like an off brand Chinese one, and

858
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: they're the kind you can change color, and we set

859
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: them to specific colors for the specific rooms, but we

860
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: can never change them back. And then like every few months,

861
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: like the app breaks and then they like the totally

862
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: wrong color and then we just can't use those lights until.

863
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 4: We fix it.

864
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 1: It's so far.

865
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: It's like the product I want from cs is ship

866
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: that just works and they don't care. It's that's a

867
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: shame as well, because I actually like the smart home stuff,

868
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: like the Roseanne Clapper, except you use your voice. It's

869
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 2: it's fun, it's good. But again, one thing breaks. It's

870
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: like Wi Fi that works. I don't think that'll make

871
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: a good But I was looking through your eng Gadget

872
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: coverage and I want to talk about the the Dreamy

873
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 2: Robot vacuum with the legs the X Yes, what are

874
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: these legs? Tell me? How do they do? They protrude?

875
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: Do they crawl? Like?

876
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: So the promotional image they sent me at first had

877
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: it kind of like standing upright like a spider on

878
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: these legs, but they're sort of like more like treads

879
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: like legs that kind of have these like rubber treads.

880
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: And so when I saw it move, it most more

881
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: like a tank. It kind of rolls up the stairs

882
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 1: and down the stairs.

883
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: What they look like little chain saws. It's like chainsaw man.

884
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: It's terrifying. When was not clear though, is that that

885
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: whole unit with the legs is actually just like a

886
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: little like docking station for the actual robot vacuum.

887
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: It's like a vehicle.

888
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the actual robot vacum like like zooms in

889
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: there and like parks itself, and then the thing goes

890
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: up the stairs and then it can send out the

891
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: robot to actually do the vacuuming. What this means though,

892
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: is that it can't actually clean the stairs themselves. Apparently

893
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: rubo rocks can climb and vacuum the stairs. This one,

894
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: which is just a concept, can just like move up.

895
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: I'm showing everyone just for the listeners at home. I'm

896
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: showing everyone a video which works really well. It's a concept,

897
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: so I'm giving them some affordance for how slow this is.

898
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: I find this kind of cool. I kind of like, like,

899
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 2: you know what, when it comes to robot vacuums, I'm

900
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,959
Speaker 2: oddly like generous, especially because this is just like very

901
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: fun to watch. It's like kind of shoving its crotch

902
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: into the stairs. It slides up.

903
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then when it term makes that bend and

904
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: it starts to go down, it's kind of funny because

905
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: it's sort of like half of it goes up.

906
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: I think that's cool. I think it's go Yeah.

907
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 5: People, I've asked for years for a robot vacuum that

908
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 5: can do like multiple floors.

909
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: Without having to pick it up, and I like him.

910
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: I just find the robot rock that I have doesn't

911
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 2: clean dust sometimes, which is a classic exhibit of the floor. Yeah,

912
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: but you know what, I feel like robot vacuums are

913
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: like the state, Like they're the like block and tackle

914
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: of cees. You see. I've been seeing robot vacuum s.

915
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: If he is, it's like watching him keep going, like watching.

916
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 4: Hey little buddy. Yeah, I get doing.

917
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 2: Oh you got a fucking arm now. Nice.

918
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 3: I feel so biased against robot vacuums because I think

919
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: I've like lived with the roomate who had one and

920
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 3: it never worked. Yeah, that was like one experience a

921
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: long time ago. But uh, just like less than a

922
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 3: month ago, I shot a whole production piece in Denver,

923
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,479
Speaker 3: and our whole small crew was staying in one big

924
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 3: Airbnb in like this big, big, fancy house in Denver,

925
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 3: and they had robot vacuums on every floor because for

926
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 3: this exact reason. So I bet these people would love

927
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 3: robot vacuums. Second climb stairs, but they didn't turn off.

928
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: I don't know fucking why. Whatever it was, all of

929
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 3: these robot vacuums were programmed to turn on at midnight,

930
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 3: and they were so loud and so scary, and you

931
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: had no idea what was going on. And so we,

932
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 3: like my boyfriend and I were sleeping in a bed

933
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 3: here functionally and just we were asleep, and then from

934
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 3: that far away you just hear this horrible like us

935
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 3: and then downstairs, Uh what my one of our crew,

936
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 3: who was staying in the basement, her robot vacuum actually

937
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: pushed her door open came into her room in the

938
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: middle of the night, and she was like, I genuinely

939
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 3: thought I had an invader, like a home vide. I

940
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 3: thought I was going to be assaulted, and it's just

941
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 3: a room ba.

942
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: Horrifying.

943
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 4: I would never have to have a personal vendetta against

944
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 4: my vacuum.

945
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: It's also just like the problem is is that, like

946
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 2: every robot thing, it's the edge cases, it's the ship

947
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: between the corners. That's actually the problem. When it comes

948
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: to sweeping the floor, that's prett easy. If you have

949
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 2: a perfectly flat surface, it's good. It's just like we

950
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: all want it to work. Have you tried any of

951
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 2: the wet dry ones? You've seen those.

952
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 5: I'm intrigued by them, but I've never just the idea

953
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 5: of like having a little robot looking just spooge on

954
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 5: my floor feels like.

955
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: Like, I don't they already seem to do pretty bad

956
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: with the brushes. I don't want them to like, sorry, ejaculate.

957
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: It's like an aqui. God, yeah, I'm sorry.

958
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 4: All right, Oh buddy, you got excited.

959
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: Calm down.

960
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 5: I think that's kind of you know, that's the core

961
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 5: disconnective cs, right, Like you just want stuff that works

962
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 5: a little better. Yeah, and that's not something that you

963
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 5: can have a CS like it finally works.

964
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: It's not really did more but didn't work. That's often

965
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: what it is though. That's another.

966
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: More did dreamy vacuum with the arm. It can change

967
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: out the arm. It has a little cubby in its

968
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: station and it can change out the little claw thing

969
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: for like a vacuum nozzle and like reach the arm

970
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: up and like suck. Well it's not that long, but

971
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: it can like go into corners or little spots that.

972
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 4: That's what can see. How can it where it needs

973
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 4: to go?

974
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I asked them at their booth because

975
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: they were demonstrating the kind of claw arm just sort

976
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: of picking up balls and putting them in a basket.

977
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: And I asked them if they could show me it

978
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: going to fetch its little attachments, and they said, no.

979
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: They don't work. That just means they don't work. That

980
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 2: doesn't happen.

981
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: They looked very alarmed, and I asked, like, oh.

982
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, one's awesome. That's I love these moments though,

983
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 2: where you can see nobody, like there's like two thousand

984
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: members of the media and it's being like, can you

985
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 2: show me it do that?

986
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 4: Keep asking but who cares?

987
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 3: When they tell me something? Because I just have so little.

988
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: Repercussions for being This is why I asked, did anyone

989
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: have an answer?

990
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 4: Uh?

991
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: It usually takes them like a couple It takes me

992
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 3: a couple tries, and then I would say probably two

993
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 3: thirds of people have got have been able to answer

994
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 3: the but who cares?

995
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 2: Question?

996
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 3: But it's just so it's so clear that like nobody's prepared.

997
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: And I understand that I'm being like incredibly brusque about it,

998
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 3: but I'm also like, I don't know, man, you should.

999
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 4: Have an answer for that.

1000
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: I feel like you should. Yeah.

1001
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 3: I Like there was one like cable stand where it's

1002
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 3: like it looks really fancy and he's telling me all

1003
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 3: about it, and I was like, as far as I

1004
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 3: could glean, the only thing special about the cable was

1005
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 3: you can make it extra long.

1006
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 4: Hm, it wasn't.

1007
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, are you saying like you can

1008
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: change out the heads of the cable and you can

1009
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 3: whatever what they were like all these little pieces and

1010
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 3: then he was like, no, no, it's all the same head.

1011
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: You can't change it out. It's only USBC. But you

1012
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 3: can connect them, and I was like, so it's.

1013
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: Just really long connect.

1014
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,959
Speaker 3: Two USBC cables to each other to make a long

1015
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 3: USBC cables and wound And I was like, but who cares?

1016
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 4: Like why not just buy a lot?

1017
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: Sure? I guess I no, I get it.

1018
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 3: Like there, it's just this kind of stuff where it's like,

1019
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 3: I just want to know the answer to.

1020
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: Is so what? It's kind of alarming that everyone doesn't

1021
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: have that answer.

1022
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing.

1023
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 3: I yeah, I understand that I am being annoying in

1024
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 3: your face, and.

1025
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 2: I get that you're saying that and you're being nice,

1026
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: but also this feels like you should just be able

1027
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: to explain really totally, really easy totally, because otherwise you

1028
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: paid like twenty five thousand dollars a day to be

1029
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: in like the South Hole to show off the goob

1030
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 2: is microwave with AI or whatever. It's cold.

1031
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 5: There's often there is often that question when you're looking

1032
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 5: at something, it's like, well, why couldn't I just do this?

1033
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: And then I don't know?

1034
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 5: Yeah neither the day yeah yeah yeah, Well, like like

1035
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 5: I was at Lenovo's booth today and they have their

1036
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 5: own day they to I think I talked about this

1037
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 5: last year too, Like they got cool hardware stuff.

1038
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,479
Speaker 2: Okay, I want to hear please, that sounds fun.

1039
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 5: They have a gaming laptop. It's a concept, of course,

1040
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 5: but some to their credit, some of those concept things they.

1041
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 2: Tell Henry Casey was mentioning the toning screen, they actually

1042
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: made yes.

1043
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 5: And then they have a gaming laptop that goes from

1044
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 5: like regular sixteen by nine into like ultra wide.

1045
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, yeah, I fucking love that shit. I know,

1046
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 2: I love that shit. Great. It's like probably insanely expensive.

1047
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 2: But so what I'm guessing is it like you pull

1048
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 2: out the sit it's a rollable display. If you just

1049
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 2: press a button in it, let's fucking go. Yeah.

1050
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 5: Consumer Electronics shows showed me some weird shit. Great, that

1051
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 5: was like in the back. And then they have an

1052
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,280
Speaker 5: AI chatbot for Winds.

1053
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 2: What is the reason they claim that is?

1054
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 5: I could not get an answer. What did he balance that? Uh?

1055
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 5: Usual AI stuff like.

1056
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: You have a document? You have a document.

1057
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's like you have a document and then you

1058
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 5: ask about the document and it tells you about the document,

1059
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 5: summarizes your notification. And it was like it was like, well,

1060
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 5: why wouldn't I just use you know, copilot or chat

1061
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 5: ept and there wasn't really a clear.

1062
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 2: Get him out of here, get him out of here now,

1063
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 2: just you'll leaves. Gods, yeah, that's They.

1064
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 5: Also had people telling me that it was on device

1065
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 5: language models, and then like the product manager was like,

1066
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 5: oh no, that's that's incorrect.

1067
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: So large language models traditionally are run in the clouds,

1068
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 2: so you have to have a persistent Internet connection. There

1069
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: are on device language models that require a ship ton

1070
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: of RAM to run because large language models are extremely rand.

1071
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 8: Depending are you are have you downloaded the Actually I don't.

1072
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 8: Most people seeing the stupidest question, have you downloaded a

1073
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 8: file that is the size of the large language?

1074
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 2: Amight it?

1075
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 4: Like do you are you holding the whole?

1076
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 2: No? No, they not in this case they the product manager.

1077
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 5: Yes, in this case they were not. In theory, yeah,

1078
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 5: you would have to have this like pretty powerful computer

1079
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 5: in a lot of space and whatever, and it still

1080
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 5: wouldn't work as well as like chatty.

1081
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: Yeah would take it.

1082
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 5: But then and then you would and but yeah, yeah,

1083
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 5: I was asking about it because you're dealing with like

1084
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 5: they were taking screenshots of what you were doing so

1085
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 5: that they could summarize and this like I don't really

1086
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 5: want that data going up who knows where.

1087
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 2: So it's like, finally you can tell me what I'm

1088
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: looking at? Yeah, how else would I know I'm not

1089
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 2: looking at? That's such a ship because Lenovo makes some

1090
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 2: reliable share and that was the legion go their handheld

1091
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 2: gaming pieces. Pretty cool them anything like that. No new

1092
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: gaming handheld stuff this year? Well, thank god? Would using

1093
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 2: all the world's high bandwidth RAM to generate various wife

1094
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 2: tunes like it's It's just such a shame. Now, Chris,

1095
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to change the weird company to choose for

1096
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 2: something that is actually kind of interesting. Matt is doing

1097
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 2: some stuff with this armband, right, and I was nearly

1098
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: ready to make fun of it as an autistic myself.

1099
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Speaker 2: But this one that can see facial gestures, can you,

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00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 2: or like emotions and such for the blind though, Yes.

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00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: So this is actually a startup that is so the

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00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:29,479
Speaker 1: startup is independent for Meta, but they made this risk

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00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: based like wearable device that's supposed to work in conjunction

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00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 1: with metas smart glasses. So the ideas that you're wearing

1105
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: Meta smart glasses. They have these kind of like real

1106
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: time AI capabilities. So I'm talking to you the videos on.

1107
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: That's going back to an app that's run by this startup. Right,

1108
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: the app can detect They have these models to detect

1109
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: kind of like facial expressions, gestures. There's a whole bunch

1110
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: of stuff you can customize, right, and then this wristband

1111
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: will send a signal to the risk and it vibrates

1112
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: in different patterns based on like if you do a

1113
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: thumbs up, it might vibrate like in a certain way

1114
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: if you do it thumbs down, or you frown or you.

1115
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 2: You know, for someone who's visually impaired. Yeah, actually sounds

1116
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 2: quite useful.

1117
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 3: If somebody is talking to a blind person and they

1118
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 3: give a thumbs up that person.

1119
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually that's a that's a good point anybody. That's

1120
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 2: a good point.

1121
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 3: Anybody who thinks that they can communicate with a blind

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00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 3: person via hand gesture should be walked off.

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Speaker 2: You are doing the jack off gesture at me. My

1124
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 2: armband's fucking telling me you're just doing this with your hand.

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00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I just.

1126
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: Could do your subtle ones too. And I think it's

1127
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: also they said that you know there's people who you know,

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00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: they're talking to their kids and they're like, oh, I

1129
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: never get that feedback from my kids, like knowing how

1130
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: they're Yeah, that's another expressions.

1131
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 4: They did get back in line.

1132
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: No, No, they did say that. Yeah, they think that perhaps

1133
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: there's a use case for people who are nerodivergent who

1134
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: just like could see the facial expression but just like

1135
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: don't know what it means.

1136
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 2: But I say this as someone with autism. If I

1137
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 2: heard someone's say that to me, they might be blind

1138
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 2: by the end of the conversation. I will say this,

1139
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: if you're a visually impaired listener to the show, I

1140
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: would actually love easy at Better offline dot com please

1141
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 2: email me because I can see, like I don't experience

1142
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: your life. I'm actually genuinely curious if these things happened,

1143
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 2: because I know last year there was this cane that

1144
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: talked and we kind of like like like we made

1145
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 2: fun of it, but it was like people were like, no,

1146
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: this is actually really useful, and I want to know

1147
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 2: because I don't want to give people shit for something

1148
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 2: that's actually useful. The fact they're mentioning the near I

1149
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 2: divergent thing really fucking pisses me off, though, because that

1150
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: is like the experience of someone who does not have

1151
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: autism or anything related to that, because it's just like,

1152
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: that's not how it fucking works. We're not sitting there

1153
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: like with what is the bloke from Light to Me

1154
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 2: where it's just looking from micro expressions. Nobody saw that show. Okay, okay,

1155
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: it's just mostly it's just Tim Roth going you lie

1156
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 2: in mate, and then like every scene is cut between,

1157
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: like like a picture of like Colin Powell and Bill Clinton,

1158
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: Like frowning at someone is like frowning if they should

1159
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 2: have the light to be blowke at CEUs. You know

1160
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 2: what I'm it's weird. Meta seems to have like oddly

1161
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: interesting accessibility stuff though, like who works over there? It's

1162
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: like they seem to be trying something there. And then

1163
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: there's all the other stuff that Meta does, like ten

1164
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 2: percent of their revenue being from fraud twenty four, which

1165
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 2: is real.

1166
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 3: Does that mean that, like somebody high up in some

1167
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 3: pyramid at Meta is actually well intentioned?

1168
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 2: Yes? I mean, like I must be clear, I think

1169
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: Meta is a deeply evil organization run by a scumbag.

1170
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: And when when Mark Zuckerberg, I assume from natural causes,

1171
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: passes from this world or for a fucking party for

1172
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 2: that piece of shit. That being said, there are people

1173
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 2: a meta I'm familiar with inaccessibility, in particular, you actually

1174
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: give a ship. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just they're not

1175
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 2: running the company, and I think it might be sadly

1176
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 2: like an after effect of the larger product. But at

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Speaker 2: the same time, if there's some fucking good from me,

1178
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: it's just it's hard to get excited about something from that. Yeah, exactly.

1179
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: It's like, actually, because like my the only meta product

1180
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 2: I unashamedly loved was the Portal. Was great, but it's

1181
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 2: because it could it like it was a very It's

1182
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 2: weirdly hard to find a thing to call someone from

1183
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 2: a TV and like on Christmas, my kid and I

1184
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 2: might call my parents and it's like it's easy for

1185
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: my dad and my mom to work and they just

1186
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: click and it works, and they of course discontinued this

1187
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 2: product because meta is Yeah, meta is not about connecting

1188
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 2: you to people. It's about showing you either like dogs

1189
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 2: barking or like dog whistles. Mostly AI dog's barking at

1190
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 2: this point.

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00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, like the worst AI s I generated like sprouts

1192
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 5: another head and then that that head starts barking.

1193
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: So I'm like being like reverse gang stalk by meta. Though,

1194
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 2: because I don't get any AI slow. Oh really, I've

1195
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 2: never been shown any.

1196
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 3: I don't know that I get shown AI stuff.

1197
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 2: I've seen other people's feets and they are just like, yes,

1198
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 2: I have a friend who's it's exclusively AI. I get

1199
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 2: like I get gen Z people being like showing a

1200
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 2: clearly homeless person pictures of like brain raw and this

1201
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 2: person in distress, just being like why am I being

1202
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: harassed by a man with broccoli hair and eight cameras

1203
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 2: And it's like, oh God. But luckily I've trained my things,

1204
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: so all they get is like silk and wind howls

1205
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 2: now like shout out to Chloe and Abby and all

1206
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: those wonderful dogs. Everyone knows what I'm talking about. Just

1207
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 2: moving on. But yeah, like I've had to train my feed.

1208
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 2: But it's a shame because it's like I guess, at

1209
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 2: some scale with a company like that, you do eventually

1210
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 2: do a good thing, just most of the other things

1211
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 2: are bad. Do they still support the portal? Does it work?

1212
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 2: It works? For now?

1213
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 4: What is the portal?

1214
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 2: It's like, literally, it's just an HDMI camera. You connect

1215
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 2: to your TV and you can connect to someone else.

1216
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 2: It will it works?

1217
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 9: Right, You're looking at it. Yeah, and it follows for

1218
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 9: your TV. Yeah, and it follows you like very quite

1219
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 9: well as well. It's like it was a cool product,

1220
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 9: which is why they stopped it because we can't have that.

1221
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 9: We can't be having you connect to people on Facebook.

1222
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 3: No, no, because you know what that does takes you

1223
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 3: off of Facebook.

1224
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't be shown the feed. But it's like

1225
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: it's interesting to see them try. Shit, It's just there's

1226
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: all the other stuff. Also, it's kind of rare to

1227
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:09,959
Speaker 2: see hyperscala here because like Google, Microsoft, Amazon, they don't

1228
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 2: really Amazon will have like a side thingy. I remember

1229
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 2: last year when I had a picture of the smiling

1230
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: man on my badge and I went into the Amazon

1231
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 2: thing a woman stopped me and went wows. I mean,

1232
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 2: there are no good reactions to that picture and everyone

1233
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 2: knows it. But yeah, it's it's they usually don't have

1234
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: a presence, so mets are trying to do stuff is good,

1235
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 2: Like right now, I'm like try. I guess everyone is

1236
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 2: looking quite pained.

1237
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: I mean, the smart glasses are interesting. They you know,

1238
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: I've written a lot about this. I have very mixed

1239
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: feelings dumb about that because they're genuinely good products. You

1240
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: roast me every time I post on my Instagram.

1241
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 2: You don't have roast roast you. I'm nice to you.

1242
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: When did I ask grost you? Come on? Now?

1243
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: You don't rust me, but I did one time post

1244
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: a poll of like do these look good on me?

1245
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: And you were like and you were the first and

1246
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: instill like.

1247
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 2: It's the royals and glasses but anyway you have complax.

1248
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,240
Speaker 1: It's true because they are actually like a good product

1249
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: if you use them, they work really well. The a

1250
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: some of the AI stuff you're gonna hate this, it's cool.

1251
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: The translation features I've used on vacation consistently.

1252
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 2: That's the only feature where like everyone's gonna like that.

1253
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 2: And dictation and stuff is good.

1254
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're good. The display glasses they look unfortunate, Yeah.

1255
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: But I've used, but they're using they're kind of cool.

1256
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're cool. They're you know, I tried today. They

1257
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: they just launched a handwriting the handwriting feature.

1258
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: What's that?

1259
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: So you know they use this neural band that you

1260
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: can control gestures.

1261
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 2: So if you sell of the glasses, you put them

1262
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 2: on and you control it with the wristband. Just for

1263
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 2: party site.

1264
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you kind of do little swipes and that's how

1265
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: you control the interface.

1266
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: It works pretty well, and it does.

1267
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: And so up to now, if you get like a

1268
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: What'sapp message and you want to reply, basically you have

1269
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: to like use your voice to dictate or reply. So

1270
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: now what they're going to do is they have a

1271
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: future it's feature called handwriting, where you can basically just

1272
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: trace letters with your hand, like on any like on

1273
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: your leg, on a table, you know, just say cool,

1274
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: like just do the letters and then that will appear

1275
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: on screen. And I try to say it was actually

1276
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: like it worked really well. It did not work with cursive,

1277
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: although I'm the only old person who probably would even

1278
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: try that.

1279
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: Uh huh, I mean that's I cannot, like I just

1280
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 2: practice a physical, physical disability, where like writing is one

1281
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,919
Speaker 2: of the worst things. It's like eventually painful. I kind

1282
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 2: of want to go and hunt this down just to

1283
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, let's fucking go, mate, I have a disability.

1284
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: Let's go. But actually, you know, maybe it works, but wait,

1285
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: so do it's how you write them? Do you do

1286
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 2: it by letter?

1287
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: Like yeah, so you just do a letter by letter

1288
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: and then when you want to do a space, you

1289
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: do like a left to right. When you want to

1290
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: delete something, you can go right to left.

1291
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 2: I'm oddly like intrigued by this because there's when they

1292
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: brought Swipe. I don't remember Swipe. It's like when you

1293
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: just drag the it's now fairly common, but it like

1294
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 2: that works pretty well. Oh yeah, I love it. I'm

1295
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 2: kind of like, all right, Meta, if you want to

1296
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 2: do one whole booth for swipe, a c that they

1297
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 2: did one year Swipe, I think actually have like a

1298
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: small booth. Yeah, it sounds like something plausible and I

1299
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 2: just mandela affected into the world, just like YouTube videos

1300
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 2: popping up. No, it's I I can't believe, like Meta

1301
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: fucking Meta is the company that brought something that worked

1302
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 2: to ces. Oh god, it's like it's like a three

1303
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 2: headed dog being born. Disgusting.

1304
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I think what you were what you were

1305
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 3: saying earlier about basically the trend is the most pragmatic

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00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 3: things are the things that actually will help the world

1307
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,439
Speaker 3: and the consumers actually want and actually need, But they

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00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 3: just are the least shiny and they get the least

1309
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 3: positive feedback and they hit the fewest headlines.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you allow me to tell a brief story,

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00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 2: please please close out this there.

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00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 3: This is okay, Here we go. I think, I think

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00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 3: we you're for the first minute of this, you're gonna

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01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 3: go why are you telling this story? And then I

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01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 3: think you will understand. For my wonderful boyfriend's birthday earlier

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01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 3: this year, I had a couple grand plans. I have

1317
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 3: this like very vivid memory of him having when we

1318
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 3: first started dating a couple of years ago, having this

1319
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 3: like plug by his bed that had multi chords coming

1320
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 3: out of it, like a little octopus set up kind

1321
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 3: of thing, and he would move it from next to

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01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 3: his bed to his office and then from his office

1323
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 3: to wherever we were going. And I two years ago

1324
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 3: I was like, it would be awesome to get him

1325
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 3: a second one of those so.

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01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 4: That he didn't have to move it around.

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01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 3: And then he also thinks that the Eminem's store in

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01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 3: Times Square is very funny, and so I was like,

1329
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 3: I also will get him some Eminem's store branded merchandise, okay,

1330
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 3: And then I think I had a third idea right

1331
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 3: that I don't remember now. And then it was the

1332
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 3: day before my boyfriend lives in London. It was a

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01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 3: day before I was It was the day I think

1334
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 3: it was the day that I was flying to London.

1335
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 3: Had not any of this. Went to the Times Square

1336
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 3: store in London, the Eminem I'm sorry, the eminem story

1337
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 3: in Times Square. Uh, couldn't find anything that he would want.

1338
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 3: Got him a pair of boxer shorts that I knew

1339
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 3: he wouldn't like. It's not the type that he wears.

1340
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 3: But I was like I at this point, I really

1341
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 3: have backed myself into a corner. Landed in London, went

1342
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 3: immediately to multiple department stores looking for this type of

1343
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 3: cable whatever. None of them had the setup that I wanted.

1344
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 3: I wound up buying what's the fancy It's like Macy's.

1345
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 4: No, it's like a step down from that.

1346
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 3: It's a two word, two name, John w John Lewis, John.

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01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 2: I fucking wish yees.

1348
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 3: So he went to John Wallas, went John Watis, went

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01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 3: to John Lewis, bought him a plug and two cables

1350
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 3: that all were sold separately. Couldn't figure out what the

1351
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 3: third like, couldn't find the third thing whatever. I wound

1352
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 3: up for his birthday and just for context, the year

1353
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 3: before he had turned forty and I had gotten him

1354
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 3: a vintage Tottenham Hotspur which is the soccer team that

1355
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 3: he supports warm up jacket from the year that he

1356
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 3: became a fan of nineteen eighty three, like went hunted

1357
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 3: on eBay, found the exactly it was this incredible gift.

1358
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 3: And this year I brought him Eminem's boxers and a

1359
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 3: plug and two chords. And he was like, you are

1360
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 3: the idiot husband and I am the long suffering wife.

1361
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 3: And fair point. But the entire point of this story

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01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 3: is out of all of the presents I have gotten

1363
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 3: him over the last two years, you want to know

1364
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 3: what he fucking uses every fucking day, the cable and

1365
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 3: the cables. And I'm like, see, it wasn't a bad present.

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Speaker 2: And you are still the fucking husband. You're still the husband.

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01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,919
Speaker 2: You're still the husband who got the gift. They're like, look,

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01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 2: it's good, it's good, and it was expensive. Stop muttering

1369
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 2: onto your breath when I mentioned Christmas. All right, We're

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01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 2: going to rotight to our next guest. The next advertisement

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Speaker 2: is brought to you by Blought the sun Cream for Dogs.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show. I'm met Zeitron. I'm joined

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01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 2: by Charissa Bella Engadget.

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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Jared Newman of the Advisory to newsletter. I'm Robert

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01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 2: Evans of Behind the Bastards. I am loving the drive

1377
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 2: time radio DJ version. I'm really enjoyed. A yeah, I really,

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01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 2: I'm going to be everyone not for me. Have you

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01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 2: taken reader questions? I would love them. If you want

1380
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 2: to easier better offline dot com, I'll answer all your questions. No,

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01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 2: I've been Daniel Goodman my producer. Sorry, my producer is Mattsowski,

1382
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 2: but Daniel producers went in person. It's not a fan

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01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 2: and be heat as well. Nevertheless, we've been working on it.

1384
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 2: But I think the idea of like a drivetime show

1385
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 2: with me is a really, you don't need to you

1386
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 2: don't want to have that on. Holy Force come out

1387
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 2: of the world. But Robert, you've got a stack of

1388
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 2: paper in your crusading against trees. I do, I do.

1389
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 2: I hate trees.

1390
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 6: I love printed advertisements for products that are going to

1391
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 6: destroy the company releasing them. Yes, and I've been collecting

1392
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 6: quite a few. These are just the ones that I

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01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 6: managed to grab out of my bag quickly.

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01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 2: Nice, but talk to me about some of the things

1395
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 2: you've seen today.

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01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, easily the most impressive product that's at

1397
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 6: the show today and there's a wide variety of stuff.

1398
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 6: There's like apparently some sort of like magnetically fired net

1399
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 6: gun for taking out drones. Okay, you know there's all

1400
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 6: sorts of incredible like different like in smart vehicle product

1401
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 6: or products like different kind of electric engines, and like

1402
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 6: all sorts of crazy new battery and solar technology. But

1403
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 6: it's the AI that's really set off the convention this year.

1404
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 6: Everyone's talking about AI and there's no AI product that

1405
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 6: people are talking about more than AI Moon, the world's

1406
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 6: first zodia AI faery. I mean obvious, please, like look

1407
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 6: at the I mean I would describe them as like

1408
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 6: if a furry that's not a nice joke, furrey head

1409
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 6: fetal alcohol syndrome, right, Like that's that's kind of like

1410
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 6: how these look to me. I don't mean that like negative,

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01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 6: it's just a description. Yeah, And these are these are

1412
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 6: to replace your astrologer. You know, they're trying to get

1413
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 6: rid of astrology.

1414
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 2: They're coming off a scam. They're coming after the scam artists. Today,

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01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 2: the newspapers are gonna shut down. They already told classified

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01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:39,439
Speaker 2: the way.

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01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 6: And I, for one thing, I cannot tell how much

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01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 6: is AI generated of the pictures of people in this brochure.

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01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 2: Everything looks a little wrong to me. Yeah. Yeah.

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01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 6: They brat that they have a pro prietary astrology engine

1421
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 6: with a berth horoscope and a composite chart analysis, a

1422
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 6: long term memory system so it gets to know you

1423
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 6: better with every chat, and a personalized personality that's customizable

1424
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 6: based on user data. They're good as friends, as emotional comfort.

1425
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 6: They brag that it can help you cure certain problems

1426
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 6: that you might have. Uh so I'm gonna say the

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01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 6: other ad I've got. Yes, I'm gonna say Jesus Christ.

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01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 2: First of all, I don't think the audience could possibly

1429
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 2: know how low resolution it's like. And you've got some Yeah,

1430
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 2: here's the thing, because there's like astrology where it's like

1431
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 2: based on like when you were born and more times,

1432
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 2: and like there's always like thoughts. This is not that,

1433
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 2: this is like various photos. They're not okay, this is

1434
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 2: like did they photo show this thing in that's what

1435
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 2: They don't quite look right.

1436
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 6: And I can't tell if that's just because they used

1437
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 6: AI photos or if there's just like a deep well

1438
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 6: of madness at the same.

1439
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 2: These are these physical objects.

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01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, they're little furbye sized objects that give you

1441
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 6: our like horoscope chatbots that are supposed to like learn

1442
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 6: and evolve the more they work with you. And they're

1443
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 6: also supposed to like counsel you and be like quasi therapists.

1444
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 6: So they had like four different arc types of these

1445
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 6: robots that they were advising. One is the relationship advisor

1446
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 6: filter out toxic, filter out the toxic, making the ones

1447
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 6: you loved, making the sorry, making the ones you love

1448
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 6: cherish you even more, which is a weird sentence first off,

1449
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:30,919
Speaker 6: like okay, sure. And this one is sharp tongued, emotionally rich,

1450
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 6: sharp intuition, strong empathy, and sensible and obviously it's a Scorpio.

1451
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 6: And then the Capricorn one is your career lucky charm.

1452
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 6: It cures overthinking, which might be a violation of FDA advertising,

1453
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 6: cures in action, masters, hustling, and career building.

1454
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 2: I want to know how cues in action just by

1455
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 2: it's so horrifying you make it.

1456
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I need to get up and leave my house

1457
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 6: to get away for it from the doll.

1458
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1459
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 6: And then there's the joyful protector cap onuncech to ditch

1460
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 6: the mental overloads, stay upbeaten, carefree, twenty four to seven,

1461
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 6: and I really wanted to try these out, but they

1462
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 6: did not seem to be functioning. At least the demo

1463
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 6: I got, I couldn't really hear it and it I connected,

1464
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 6: it just like wasn't connecting. I guess like that's been

1465
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 6: an issue because I've tried a bunch of different we

1466
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 6: slapped and we gave access to jim Andi or to

1467
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 6: fucking chat GPT, to a ring or to a pencil

1468
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 6: or something like that, and most of the ones when

1469
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 6: I'd ask like can I try it, They're like, well,

1470
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 6: the signal's not really working right now, like because it's been.

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Speaker 2: A lot though, because the Wi Fi doesn't work and

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01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 2: all these things are off device. Yeah.

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01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 6: Well, and that's one of the products that I did

1474
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 6: really like was from a I initially just discovered the

1475
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 6: company because I saw their name and I was like,

1476
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 6: that can't be an American company because they would not

1477
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 6: have picked this name. And it's for they do translation

1478
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 6: based AI products and the company's name is trans Aia,

1479
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 6: So I just looked. I just kind of like that

1480
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 6: got me looking. But then their products were actually really

1481
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 6: really neat. They had a device that's like a transcription tool.

1482
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 6: It's about the size of a smartphone. It's got the screen,

1483
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 6: it looks nice. It's got a swiveling camera that has

1484
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 6: like a little engine on it, and so you can

1485
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 6: just set it down when you're doing an interview and

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01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 6: it'll transcribe that. But it also it acts as a translator.

1487
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 6: It's got like one hundred and fifty languages, like you

1488
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 6: can have Translate Concrete, which.

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01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 2: A bunch of products actually sounds a ton of people.

1490
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 2: And this was on I remember them saying this was

1491
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 2: all on device, and it's on device.

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01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 6: That's what I really liked because a lot of people

1493
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 6: are offering this is a translator, but it's in the

1494
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 6: cloud or it's it's you're literally like chat GPT's on

1495
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 6: it too, and like, so you want me to have

1496
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 6: like interviews that might be sensitive and then throw that

1497
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 6: shit back to chat GPT or elsewhere on the No,

1498
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 6: I want it on device.

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01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 2: And especially with these cheap companies, you know they're not

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01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 2: paying the extra.

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01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 6: To keep it so diope, yeah, and that will be

1502
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 6: trans Ai is going to have this out there if

1503
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 6: you just google Transai Kickstarter. They've got a Kickstarter going

1504
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,719
Speaker 6: to fund this device, which I didn't get to test

1505
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 6: it fully, I did get to like whole and look

1506
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 6: at it. It seemed at least physically well made, like

1507
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 6: it's a good industrial design. I can't well I did.

1508
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 6: I mean, there's only so much you can try standing around.

1509
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 6: They did give me, though, a set of wireless earbuds

1510
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 6: that are automatic translators that's supposed so I am going

1511
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 6: to get to try that out like that, so we'll

1512
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:20,719
Speaker 6: see how.

1513
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 2: Well it works device as well.

1514
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, those are those are because they're just

1515
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 6: little earbuds, right. But it may it may just be

1516
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 6: though that the downloads enough onto your phone. I'm not

1517
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 6: I haven't gotten to try that yet.

1518
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 2: But I feel like in a few years, anything that's

1519
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 2: left of the air Bubble will all be on device,

1520
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 2: just because nobody trusts this shit right well, and just yeah,

1521
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 2: nobody wants to pay for it.

1522
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 6: No one wants to pay for it, and for stuff

1523
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 6: that's really crucial, like being a like if you're trying

1524
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 6: to sell like you can have conversations when you're traveling

1525
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,440
Speaker 6: around the world, maybe in like weird off grid locations.

1526
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to have to have like five G

1527
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 2: We were just saying that earlier. It's like if you're

1528
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 2: in some way where you desperate, you need the translation.

1529
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 2: There's no English speakers around. It's probably also not a

1530
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 2: Wi Fi rich environment. Yeah, and you you have more

1531
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 2: experience of this, I think than anyone. Well, and you'd

1532
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 2: always prefer to have a person. But that's not mean

1533
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 2: always some what else you got in your pile of papers? Okay,

1534
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 2: let's see what? Please? Do I have them? I?

1535
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 6: Well, I've got this book that I can't wait to read,

1536
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 6: Patterns for Building AI Agents by Sam Bogwatt, who is.

1537
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 2: The co founder.

1538
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 6: That's a great name. I think it's it's just a

1539
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 6: normal name. I'm Bogwar, founder and CEO of something called

1540
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 6: Master AI. I don't know what it is, but eleven

1541
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 6: of these we're sitting out at a bus stop on.

1542
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 2: The way to the convention center. So I just went

1543
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 2: ahead and grabbed one, like when you're walking around Brookley

1544
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 2: Fund a scientology thing.

1545
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it might be a cult. I have not

1546
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 6: confirmed it's not a cult.

1547
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 2: Okay, So okay, this guy Patsons for building a saman Yeah,

1548
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'll look at this later and i'll

1549
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 2: tear it. Oh yeah, this is oh actually I can't read.

1550
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: This is the sequel to Principles of Building AI Agents

1551
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 2: of Oh, okay, you got to read the first one

1552
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 2: strikes back first. So I found the name.

1553
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:06,679
Speaker 6: This is the device I was talking about, the AI,

1554
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 6: the on the world's first on device AI meeting note taker,

1555
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 6: the trans AI note. You can see, it's like a

1556
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:13,919
Speaker 6: nice looking gadget.

1557
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 2: By the way.

1558
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 5: There was another device called trans AI or trans It's

1559
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 5: just something with trans and AI in the name, and

1560
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 5: it was voice cloning. It was a translator, that translator

1561
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 5: that tried to make your voice sound like it was

1562
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:27,839
Speaker 5: in the other language.

1563
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 2: Oh, that's kind of cool. Yeah, it was a little undersettling.

1564
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 2: That's that's really good for fraud. Like that really is

1565
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 2: going to fraud.

1566
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 6: So I haven't really wanting to take advantage of a

1567
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 6: lot of French people at scale, and it's just hard

1568
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 6: to do right now.

1569
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just reading this agent book example Coding Agents.

1570
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 2: Replet agent feeds errors back into context and kicks off

1571
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 2: an not mate feedback loop. Based on everything I've ever

1572
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 2: read about that company, that is wrong, just like it.

1573
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 2: Maybe just haven't looked masters.

1574
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 6: There was Oh, there was the cybo pal, which is

1575
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 6: It was one of those products where I can see

1576
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,719
Speaker 6: the cool in this, but it doesn't work very well.

1577
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:09,919
Speaker 6: Where it's supposed to be a site tracking, intelligent monitor

1578
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 6: that moves on its own with your.

1579
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 2: Head, Okay, I can see the bottom as you as.

1580
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 6: You like move Now, obviously you don't want it to

1581
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 6: just physically move whenever you move your head, because that

1582
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 6: would be a nightmare. That would like literally be hell,

1583
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 6: like if this gadgets just constant as you're like, I

1584
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 6: gotta like move over, take a hit of a vight

1585
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 6: pen or something. But so they had to figure out, like,

1586
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 6: how can you what is like an easy, seamless, unobtrusive

1587
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 6: way for you to tell this thing to move, And

1588
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:39,520
Speaker 6: they settled on a complex series of different hand gestures

1589
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 6: that you have to use, what like you have to

1590
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 6: go aim at one.

1591
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 2: Of two different sensors.

1592
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 6: And first the lady who was like the pr representative

1593
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 6: that was supposed to show it off, tried to and

1594
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 6: about one out of every four times it did what

1595
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 6: she asked it to. And then the guy who I

1596
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:57,759
Speaker 6: think was one of the inventors. It's definitely her boss.

1597
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 6: There's a language, bears. It was a little hard to

1598
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 6: tell their exact roles in the company sat down and he.

1599
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:03,719
Speaker 2: Did a lot better.

1600
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 6: It responded to what he asked it about seventy percent

1601
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 6: of the time, but it's.

1602
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 2: Still a lot.

1603
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 6: Both of them a lot of the time are just

1604
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 6: like doing this, like repeating the same like two finger

1605
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 6: gesture whatever, over and over at a camera to get

1606
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 6: it to move. And when it because periodically for like

1607
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,799
Speaker 6: forty seconds, it would do like five or six gestures

1608
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:24,759
Speaker 6: in a row would move.

1609
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, that's kind of neat. Yeah,

1610
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 2: if it worked, it would be great.

1611
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And it's just one of these. It's

1612
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 6: another like AI product, well for one thing.

1613
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 2: That's not AI. I'm sorry, guys, like we're using that

1614
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 2: for every It's the same thing. Like they had that

1615
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 2: company that Apple bowl, like in twenty eleven that was

1616
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 2: like they had a ca it was like a ball

1617
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 2: that it was like a wee baw. You're attached to

1618
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 2: a monitor and you could like do gestures and that

1619
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 2: badly fucking worked. Hell yeah no.

1620
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 5: Lenovo actually had a tilting a swiveling screen, yeah, laptop

1621
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 5: and then follows your head when you're on.

1622
01:14:58,760 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 2: Did it work?

1623
01:14:59,439 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1624
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 2: It worked at these people. So are you oh say

1625
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 2: we had that?

1626
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: Didn't Xbox have that technology like ten years ago?

1627
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 2: Well connects, but it couldn't see black people. So that

1628
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 2: was like it's like it's like a better keeps happening too,

1629
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 2: It's not the first, no one will be the last time.

1630
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 2: The law doesn't seem to do that either.

1631
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 6: Well sometimes yeah, but yeah, I mean, and that that

1632
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 6: the whole frustration of like things labeled it, because there's

1633
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 6: there's a mix of like shit labeled as AI that

1634
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 6: under no circumstance does anyone really reasonable consider like a

1635
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 6: robot that responds to a gesture by moving a screen

1636
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,440
Speaker 6: and that's all it does is not an intelligence?

1637
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 2: Also, just do you have fucking hands? And have you

1638
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 2: met people with all the hands.

1639
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 6: Like we've been and we've been doing that for forever.

1640
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 6: Like machines that you can like do something into a

1641
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 6: camera and it recognizes a simple a vision.

1642
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 2: It's just basic like you get not on device now.

1643
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 6: And likewise, like I keep seeing like I like this AI,

1644
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 6: this meeting note taker.

1645
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 2: I don't is it AI?

1646
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 6: I guess it's more AI to recognize and like transcribe

1647
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 6: a conversation. But the appeal is not that it's a

1648
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 6: thing that you can communicate with. The appeal is that

1649
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 6: it can do a task.

1650
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 2: Right.

1651
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 6: It's this there's a bunch of different AI pins and

1652
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 6: AI glasses and the ones I hated all had chat

1653
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 6: integration into it to where you can communicate with it,

1654
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 6: and the ones that were cool were like, yeah, it's

1655
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 6: a pen that can listen to a conversation and transcribe

1656
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 6: it for you, right right, And it's like, well, yeah,

1657
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 6: that's that might be useful.

1658
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 2: You know. It's just like it all gets back to

1659
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 2: the classic thing of like, yeah, I want this to

1660
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 2: do a task and they're like, oh no, no, sorry,

1661
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 2: AI doesn't do that. Yeah, like it's not able to

1662
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 2: do that. And it's I feel like this is just

1663
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 2: the logical end point of where this is. CS has

1664
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 2: been going for ten years, which is slowly distancing itself

1665
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 2: from reality. Yeah, and promise to just this point when

1666
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 2: ninety seven percent of the stuff is just like if

1667
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 2: it works, wouldn't it be kind of useful?

1668
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 5: Sort of Well, it's like you know, I was talking

1669
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 5: about like AI slop products earlier, you know, and it's

1670
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 5: the kind of thing where like okay, uh, you can

1671
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 5: talk to your router and the router will tell you

1672
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,759
Speaker 5: what's wrong whatever. But it's like you could just design

1673
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 5: a UI that just like told you that, that just

1674
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 5: gave you that information in a visually appealing way.

1675
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 2: Work. People don't look as a print journalist.

1676
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 5: Like people don't want to read a block of text unfortunately,

1677
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 5: they just want visual. And yet we're reverting into this

1678
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 5: thing where like the technology communicates with you via a

1679
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 5: block of text that was generated by Yeah.

1680
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 2: I also love that with routes as well, because I

1681
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 2: think for like every CEES I've ever been to, there

1682
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 2: was a router company that said, yeah, we'll just fix

1683
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 2: your network problems. Right, everyone's lying, every single one of

1684
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 2: them's lying. It's wrong every time. It's never worked, tp

1685
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 2: link deco, fuck you, tp Link, I'm sorry that shit

1686
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 2: don't work. Busted and fuck that. Hundreds of dollars wasted.

1687
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's the most I've the most product category

1688
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 6: type I have seen at CEES is some form of

1689
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:02,440
Speaker 6: digital assistant and or a new chat bot or like companion.

1690
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 6: Right right, Like there's a huge booth for a company

1691
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 6: called to Ya t u Ya that was like they've

1692
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 6: got this holistic it does everything digital companion. You can

1693
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 6: like there's a health version of it, so you can

1694
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 6: like feed this thing your health data, Like you can

1695
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,680
Speaker 6: give it access to your wearables, and it'll not just

1696
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 6: like tell you what's my heart rate? Add how much

1697
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 6: you know, many calories did I burn? But it'll tell

1698
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 6: you like it'll like make workout plans for you and

1699
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 6: like recommend diets and stuff for you, which, like, I

1700
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 6: guess I'm sure there are people who want that.

1701
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 2: I have.

1702
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 6: The concern I always have was like with like, okay,

1703
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 6: so you're feeding all of your biometric data into this

1704
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 6: machine that you're feeding all of your communications to. It

1705
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 6: has access to your email, it has access to your notes,

1706
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 6: it's you've got a wearable device and it's listening to you.

1707
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 6: There's a mobile version running through your house. How secure

1708
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 6: are you?

1709
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 2: How? How how much do you trust this company's data safety? Yes,

1710
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 2: data retention, considering big companies have breaches all the time.

1711
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,879
Speaker 2: I will also have if you get the wrong workoup

1712
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 2: and you can actually really hurt yourself. Honestly, this is

1713
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 2: someone who's done it to myself. It's just like that

1714
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 2: feels I feel people are very cavalier about that as well,

1715
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 2: where it's just like Oh yeah, I'll just take the

1716
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 2: workout from the air and you fuck your leg up,

1717
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 2: you fuck your arms up, all the things I've done.

1718
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 6: Yep, And there's a So they have an AI pet

1719
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 6: robot for two you that can live in your house.

1720
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:30,520
Speaker 6: It's got It looks like a big white doughnut with wheels.

1721
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 6: And I think the hole in the middle is meant,

1722
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 6: at least based on the crudely photo or the crudely

1723
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 6: photoshopped cat sitting in it, to be like your pet

1724
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 6: can sit inside the AI robot companion.

1725
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 2: See, it's part of the Wow family. I've always a

1726
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 2: pet for my pet, your cat, And it's telling that

1727
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 2: you get a real cat in that thing.

1728
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 6: They had to photoshop a cat crudely because the cat

1729
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:57,799
Speaker 6: is getting inside a wheeled robot.

1730
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 2: Bobo is killing that shit. Bob is fucking running across

1731
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 2: the house to like, yeah, donkey kick that shit.

1732
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 6: And they describe again it just looks like a doughnut

1733
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 6: with wheels. Galactic design, harmonious coexistence, sleek sci fi aesthetics

1734
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 6: for pets and people.

1735
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Jesus, It's just why am I going to

1736
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 2: meet somebody who buys one of these? Yeah? I want

1737
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 2: to meet someone, I actually want to study the brain

1738
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 2: of someone who goes that is.

1739
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 6: Like yes, yes, it was a big booth, so clearly

1740
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 6: there's money behine hundred thousand. This is uh yeah. I'm

1741
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 6: not sure where the company is based at them. I

1742
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 6: haven't looked into it enough yet. There was a panel

1743
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 6: going on uh two ya x two ya and Google

1744
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 6: Cloud from AI First to AI Everywhere, which was the

1745
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 6: same as half of the other panels I've heard.

1746
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 2: It was just a bunch of platform do you want

1747
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 2: to tie someone?

1748
01:20:56,160 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 6: Like how the ais ais just getting back? It's coming

1749
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 6: to everything. Don't you love your digital assistant? I don't

1750
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:04,480
Speaker 6: go anywhere without my digitalist?

1751
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 2: You set the last year this is the worst that

1752
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 2: leviby it Actually.

1753
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 6: It's at least not any better. And yeah, they've they've

1754
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 6: got the health management thing. It's got a fitness coach,

1755
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 6: it does sleep analysis. And again I just keep thinking like, okay,

1756
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,679
Speaker 6: so you're just handing literally your entire life's data.

1757
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 2: And this is the Zone app.

1758
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 6: This is they do the doughnut thing, and they have

1759
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 6: the Companion app that can also one of the things

1760
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 6: they bragged about is that if you just oh, it

1761
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 6: can run your smart home, so you can plug your

1762
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 6: security system into this addition to your biometric data. It's

1763
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 6: a security guardian twenty four to seven protection for peace

1764
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:46,719
Speaker 6: of mind. And it can run your smart power system,

1765
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,640
Speaker 6: it can run your smart home. And it's also just

1766
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 6: a companion. And one of the things they advertise this

1767
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,759
Speaker 6: companion can do is if you just tell it a topic,

1768
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 6: it'll automatically generate a podcast for you.

1769
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 2: Aren't we all you know? We're as you're now ed.

1770
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 2: It takes a little more skill than that chat chat

1771
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 2: with Hay two. Yeah. By the way, it's Hay two

1772
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 2: sounds a lot too much like haka. Yeah. I'm also

1773
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 2: just thinking like everything's like sleep analysis, so as a

1774
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 2: chat GPT wrapper you feed the sleep day or into

1775
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 2: health analysis. It's just they released chat GPT for Health

1776
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 2: Today AI podcasts Alex said, listen to what you love.

1777
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 2: Alex Heath of Sources says that churt GPT health is

1778
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 2: going to be big. I think that that's irresponsible, yeah

1779
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 2: and also bullshit, like a massive numpty would use chat

1780
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 2: GPT health. It's like, what's it going to fuck? And

1781
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 2: it also it's great, it's like use it for this this,

1782
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 2: but it's not for health advice.

1783
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, so why though he said that we can't advertise

1784
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 6: that right now Jesus the liability, But.

1785
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 2: Also, what the fuck is it for? Then it's for

1786
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,679
Speaker 2: giving you health advice? Yeah, it's like it's for health.

1787
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:52,839
Speaker 2: Here's the other thing that like health stores.

1788
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 5: If we buy and this is an if, but like

1789
01:22:55,400 --> 01:23:00,120
Speaker 5: if we buy the idea that generative AI agents like

1790
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 5: chattybut Gemini whatever are like the operating systems of the future,

1791
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 5: which I of course do, yeah, and I know you

1792
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 5: believe that, but like you now you have all these

1793
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 5: other products like that, which is like its own AI

1794
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 5: kind of agent and so and there's like a million

1795
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 5: of them on the show floor, So like are you

1796
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 5: gonna have that? And then another device that has its

1797
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,679
Speaker 5: own ANI thing and another device as Zoni I think, and.

1798
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 2: You really would rather just use chatchybut or whatever. That's

1799
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 2: the thing. It's like, what happens to all these companies

1800
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 2: when open ai copies all of them? Yeah? Or dies?

1801
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 2: What if open ai raises their prices? Do the margins

1802
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 2: make sense?

1803
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 6: And these products are literally just a thing that like

1804
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 6: that a computer that we slapped into a ring or

1805
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 6: something and gave it wireless at like gave it like

1806
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 6: access to to chatchipt, right, that's all it is.

1807
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 2: What if you can't afford that anymore? Yeah, what if

1808
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 2: they raise the prices by ten percent? Because that doesn't

1809
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 2: sound like much if you're like paying twenty bucks a month,

1810
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 2: but if you're doing I don't know, thousands of dollars

1811
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 2: tens hundreds of Yeah, wipe them out immediately if your

1812
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 2: margins are ten percent, and like most of your business

1813
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 2: is spent on chat GPT, It's just it's inevitable, but

1814
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:16,520
Speaker 2: also so easily clonable.

1815
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 5: I am I'm looking forward to the chat GPT. Furry astrologer.

1816
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 6: Sure now that that's responsible use, that's AI of AI,

1817
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 6: and that that really seems like ethical AI to me.

1818
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're worrying.

1819
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 6: There was a good one on mental health and AI

1820
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 6: that was by a the Yeah, I mean it wasn't

1821
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 6: so much a panel as like a speech by like

1822
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 6: a clinical therapist. Okay who I've got this written down

1823
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 6: of my notes. I'm spacing on her name right now.

1824
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 6: But she was taking very much the the reasonable tact

1825
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 6: of like, Okay, what has already happened is that a

1826
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 6: shitload of people are using chatbots as therapists. That is happening.

1827
01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 6: That is a thing that is going on. There are

1828
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 6: harms we are starting to document and we will continue to

1829
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 6: document with that, but it's a thing that's happening. What

1830
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 6: would a healthy like like. And the other thing she

1831
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 6: was saying that I don't fully agree with, but I

1832
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 6: think it's an arguable point is the because lack of

1833
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:21,919
Speaker 6: access to mental health resources is such an endemic problem

1834
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 6: in the United States and the world, there is an

1835
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 6: opportunity if you can make ethically a clinical like a

1836
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 6: like an AI therapist, right or something that can do

1837
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 6: counseling or whatnot to reach people who could another way.

1838
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 6: Now I don't agree with that, but I it's a

1839
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 6: for the purpose of a like listening to the speech,

1840
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 6: I can I can follow with like, Okay, how would

1841
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 6: you I want to hear your pitch on like what

1842
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 6: an ethical version of this would be. And what I

1843
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 6: appreciated is that she doesn't really didn't really come to

1844
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 6: a conclusion, like she was like, these are the things

1845
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 6: you would need to do. I don't know if it

1846
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 6: can be done. That was kind of the three one

1847
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 6: is like I'm not sure that this is a here's

1848
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 6: what it would need to be if it was if

1849
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 6: you were going to try to do this, Here's what

1850
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 6: you couldn't have it doing. Here's the things you'd have

1851
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 6: to keep in mind. And like, one of the things

1852
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 6: she brought up, which I think is why this is

1853
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 6: a fundamentally impossible thing, is she said, Okay, one of

1854
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 6: the major problems with chatbots, especially because people using THEMS therapists,

1855
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 6: is that they are designed to keep you on and

1856
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 6: to keep you using it, and they like, well, we'll

1857
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 6: gas you up, they'll they'll lie, they'll say whatever to

1858
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 6: keep you using them, and that's bad for like therapy. R.

1859
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need pushback, right, you.

1860
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:35,679
Speaker 6: Need pushback, You need critical analysis of what you're doing.

1861
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 6: Sometimes you don't need a machine that is trying to

1862
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 6: keep you happy so that you continue to use it.

1863
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:45,640
Speaker 6: That's not therapy. And she was like, so any responsible

1864
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 6: version of this technology turned towards therapy would have to

1865
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 6: not do that. And so I came up to her

1866
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 6: afterwards and I was like, well, the problem to me

1867
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 6: then is people will always have access to the robots

1868
01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 6: that are really dangerous and terrible therapists that make them

1869
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 6: feel good and want to talk to them, why would

1870
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 6: anyone use and pay money for a presumably more expensive

1871
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 6: therapeutic bot that doesn't make them feel good? And she

1872
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 6: was like, well, yeah, I think that's probably like an

1873
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 6: insurmountable problem. Basically, like that was the That wasn't her word,

1874
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 6: but her words were essentially like, yeah, I'm I have

1875
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 6: the same concern, and I'm not sure it's possible to

1876
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 6: do this.

1877
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:23,919
Speaker 2: So what frustrates me She's right, sure, but what frustrates

1878
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 2: me about that is like I'm tired of people saying

1879
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 2: if it did this, it would be great. If it's

1880
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,879
Speaker 2: just not possible, if it's just like most of ces

1881
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 2: this year is like if it worked, it would be good.

1882
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:37,640
Speaker 2: Hers was more people are using chatbots for therapy? Is it?

1883
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 2: What would you need to see for this to not

1884
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 2: be Irrespecti's and I use, I think that's reasonable. I

1885
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 2: just I think it's just people. What She's right, it's

1886
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 2: a good thing that it's like, is that a good thing?

1887
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 2: People will conflate you can't do it, probably yeah, And

1888
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 2: it's also people will conflate that by saying and if

1889
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 2: we just buy more GPUs then therapy bot will exist.

1890
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 2: And it's also just people misunderstand what therapy is. It's

1891
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 2: it's really Yeah, it's good that someone said what would

1892
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 2: be required, but the moment you think about what be required, yeah,

1893
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 2: realize it's the same.

1894
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 6: Last year, we talked to a guy who made an

1895
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 6: AI enabled device that was like four as a companion

1896
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 6: for old people. Primarily, it's like this like head shaped

1897
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 6: kind of robot but didn't have like a face, that

1898
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,679
Speaker 6: had cameras on it and could like move a little

1899
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 6: bit and engage with you that you would like keep

1900
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 6: in a kitchen or something like an appliance, and you

1901
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 6: could use basic stuff with it. It'll tell you like

1902
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 6: the weather outside, it can look up stuff for you, and.

1903
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 2: It'll also basically like a lepsa, but it also.

1904
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:45,680
Speaker 6: It's programmed to engage you and kind ask you to like, hey,

1905
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 6: do you want to record a story for your grandkids?

1906
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 6: Like you can build an archive? Hey, uh, you have

1907
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 6: these friends who also have this device, why don't I

1908
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 6: call one of them, like I just to try and

1909
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 6: keep them active, to try to keep them engaged with

1910
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 6: their family, to make sure and talking to the inventor

1911
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 6: of it, he was incredibly concerned both about privacy but

1912
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 6: also about this is a medical device, and this is

1913
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 6: a device that would give people better access to their doctors,

1914
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 6: better access to their families, give their families a better

1915
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 6: idea of what's going on with them. And so I

1916
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:19,680
Speaker 6: don't think it's going to work as a product. I'm

1917
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 6: sure the company has already failed to be entirely honest,

1918
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 6: because I don't think anyone's going to buy this thing.

1919
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 6: But I appreciate, like, Okay, you can't you You you

1920
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 6: had a good impulse coming in here.

1921
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 2: This is not a cash grab for you.

1922
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 6: You were attempting to make something that would solve a problem.

1923
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 2: And be a good business as a result of that.

1924
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 6: Right, And this year I came across a company that

1925
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,520
Speaker 6: this is the company I showed you the horror Zeroth

1926
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:47,639
Speaker 6: that had the They have the Wally Robot. They say

1927
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 6: they're working with Disney to do a licensed version of

1928
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:52,839
Speaker 6: But they have these tiny robots that look like rock'm

1929
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 6: sockam robots that are like companions for the elderly, even

1930
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 6: though they look like a Toya kid would have played.

1931
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 2: Was this nice or something like that? No, No, it's.

1932
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 6: Zero with this company, But it can like walk away.

1933
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:06,600
Speaker 6: I can hobble around and the thing is. When I asked, like,

1934
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 6: what does it do, she said, well, it'll tell your face.

1935
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 6: It'll tell like an elderly person's family member if they're

1936
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 6: not doing well, if they like seem to be less

1937
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 6: social or like stressed or anxious. And I was like, well,

1938
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 6: based on what and he said, well, if you look,

1939
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 6: you can see, like we've got this, you can see

1940
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 6: like how the machine sees through the cameras and it

1941
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 6: looks like the terminator, and it'll zero in on faces

1942
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 6: and it'll notice like micro expressions that show you that

1943
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 6: somebody's like hiding stand And I'm like, you're number one,

1944
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 6: you don't know any of this.

1945
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're making this so too.

1946
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 6: Telling me that your like elder care device looks at

1947
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 6: people the way the terminator.

1948
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 2: Does, you a lot of confidence.

1949
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 6: And just the difference in like this man who this

1950
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 6: is a very personal invention to him, and he at

1951
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:52,639
Speaker 6: every step was thinking about what will actually be best

1952
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 6: to the people I want to help, versus this marketer

1953
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:56,840
Speaker 6: being like, yeah, it's like a fucking terminator. I'll tell

1954
01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 6: you if your grandma's dying, fucking room to do with that.

1955
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 6: And it's tiny, it's like eighteen inches tall, Grandma's gonna

1956
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:06,439
Speaker 6: have this walking around, it's because she's gonna trip on it.

1957
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what the fuck? Like the classic thing that

1958
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 2: old people do is trip on stuff, and it's like,

1959
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:11,760
Speaker 2: we need another one.

1960
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 6: But grandma needs is a tiny robot that looks like

1961
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 6: a toy that her forty year old grandson now would

1962
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 6: have played with as a kid, and like why why

1963
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 6: does she want this in her house?

1964
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 2: You get it between like t Moon notifications and Instagram

1965
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 2: notification Grandma dead, Grandma dead, grama details later, Grandma dead,

1966
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 2: or like the it's like your cat's pissed, Like you

1967
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 2: get the note he really is notification. If you bought

1968
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 2: even seven of these devices, your entire life is just

1969
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:38,680
Speaker 2: a nightmare.

1970
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 6: Of just like ping cat the rest of your life

1971
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 6: trying to scroll through one day's notice.

1972
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 2: Your I mean, my fucking phone is already like that.

1973
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 2: It's insane. You install a new app that's like, oh,

1974
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 2: it's the it's the Selfridges app, and it's like did

1975
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 2: you know you can buy pants? And it's like I'm familiar,

1976
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:56,720
Speaker 2: Thank you Selfridges.

1977
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 5: But I think it it kind of gets back to

1978
01:31:58,360 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 5: like you know what I'm saying before about like pebble

1979
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,600
Speaker 5: and clicks. It's like, you know, it is so in

1980
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 5: short supply at cees to find like authenticity, somebody who

1981
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 5: is like really passionate about like this thing.

1982
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 2: I want to solve a problem. So when you find it,

1983
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:16,560
Speaker 2: it's very exciting, you know. Yeah, like the guy.

1984
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 6: Who made the the the mug that has a fan

1985
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 6: on it for when you're in like you're drinking at

1986
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 6: the stadium or something during like a summer game and

1987
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 6: you want both a.

1988
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 2: Fan and you want your your beer, your gatorade, whatever you.

1989
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 6: Put in there. You know as well, it's stupid. I

1990
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 6: don't want one. It barely counts as consumer electronics. But

1991
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 6: at least a man had a dream, you know.

1992
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 2: So we're going to rotate again and the next ad

1993
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 2: is whatever it is, it's perfect. You have to buy

1994
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 2: it immediately. Diana once again, in front of a micro

1995
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 2: phone in the Palazzo in Las Vegas, Nevada. I'm drinking

1996
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:05,720
Speaker 2: my eleventh diet Coke. I'm surrounded by the warmth and

1997
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 2: love of friendship and camaraderie. Joining me is Chloe Radcliffe,

1998
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 2: the wonderful stand up comedian actress from a is this

1999
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 2: thing on who What? Where? It's you who Robert Evans

2000
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 2: of Behind the Bastards. Yes, correct, I'm going. I'm just

2001
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 2: stand up comedian Adam Conover and also the host of

2002
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 2: the Factory podcast. Hello, and of course edyonon Gaiso Junior,

2003
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 2: who writes the Tech Bubble newsletter. Hello, and we're back.

2004
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 2: We're back for the final bit of this of the

2005
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 2: Wednesday's CES episode. I am on. This is what twelve

2006
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:41,720
Speaker 2: and a half hours. It's great. I've got so many more.

2007
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 2: I fucking love doing I'm not even complaining. I love

2008
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 2: doing this. But everyone else, everyone else is tired. And

2009
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:50,679
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry everyone for dragging you into this. But yeah,

2010
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:56,479
Speaker 2: so we've got two people who've never been to CES before. Oh, Chloe, Adam, Yeah,

2011
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 2: how'd you feel? What do you think? Welcome to the jungle.

2012
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:05,639
Speaker 10: I mean, it makes me wanna like go see someone

2013
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 10: play an acoustic guitar with no amplification.

2014
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

2015
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 10: It makes me want to like walk by a playground,

2016
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:19,680
Speaker 10: like you know, it's recess and the children are just

2017
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 10: sort of like running around.

2018
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2019
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 4: It makes me want to build a fire and dig

2020
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 4: a hole. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2021
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 10: It makes me want to like have a basic a

2022
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 10: basic pleasure of life. And I'm having trouble, like, you know,

2023
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 10: putting the two worlds together.

2024
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, like, well, it's just you know,

2025
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 2: like this is it's the center of you know, the

2026
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:46,320
Speaker 2: tech industry in many ways, or at least a certain

2027
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 2: piece of it.

2028
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 10: Right, It's like all sort of coalescing around this, you

2029
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 10: know moment.

2030
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:53,800
Speaker 6: It's like a little black hole like owls of the

2031
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 6: tech end, not ready to like ship all this stuff

2032
01:34:57,200 --> 01:35:00,080
Speaker 6: out yet, so we're kind of watching it as it

2033
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:04,640
Speaker 6: and it's.

2034
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:07,480
Speaker 10: It's supposedly the most the most important, you know industry

2035
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 10: in America.

2036
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:10,280
Speaker 2: Sets the tone for the year as well, because it's

2037
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 2: in January, drives the economy.

2038
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 10: These are the people who are like creating the future

2039
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 10: and and so much of it could not be more

2040
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 10: distant from most people's lives or horrifying to their lives.

2041
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:25,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you say anything new today that horrified you? Yeah?

2042
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:32,440
Speaker 10: There were three different kiosks that we're selling body trackers

2043
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 10: that would track you while you're driving a car. Sorry,

2044
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:38,680
Speaker 10: it's not for you the driver, though, it's for your

2045
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:41,800
Speaker 10: employer to track you while you're driving the car, like

2046
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:45,839
Speaker 10: if you know, to track ups drivers or Uber drivers

2047
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 10: or other people who are drive in a fleet and

2048
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:51,559
Speaker 10: it can you sit there and it has you know,

2049
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:53,200
Speaker 10: it draws a little skeleton over.

2050
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:55,680
Speaker 2: Your body and your face to track you. And then

2051
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 2: it has a little icon, Oh we can tell you're yawning.

2052
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:00,759
Speaker 10: A little voice will say put on your seat belt

2053
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 10: like it's it's it's human monitoring to you know, mechanize people.

2054
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:08,120
Speaker 10: I guess if you're a logistics company that can't afford

2055
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 10: way mos, which are also all over the place, this

2056
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 10: is a way of sort of putting your drivers into

2057
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 10: a little virtual prison.

2058
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 3: Feels so much more invasive than you know, Hey, we

2059
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 3: do have an alarm on the car door, so we

2060
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:23,679
Speaker 3: know every time you get in and out of the vehicle,

2061
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 3: and and we have GBS in the car and we know,

2062
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 3: you know, we know when you're stopped.

2063
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, we have like a governor so it can't go

2064
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 6: above a certain yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

2065
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 10: And uh, you know, it was kind of fun to

2066
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 10: play with because they have a camera set up and

2067
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:36,200
Speaker 10: you want to track your body.

2068
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:37,639
Speaker 2: And me and what we're playing with it.

2069
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 10: And then and I was like waving at it, and

2070
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 10: then I kind of pretended I was in a car

2071
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:45,720
Speaker 10: crash and then I kind of like yanked the equipment

2072
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 10: around and it wasn't put and then a German Man

2073
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:49,639
Speaker 10: came over and he was like, you must leave.

2074
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 2: That has been enough fun. You must I was like,

2075
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, yes, you must leave. Yeah. Each time you

2076
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 2: say each time and I'm said I'm sorry. He's like, oh, yes,

2077
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:03,600
Speaker 2: yes you have to go.

2078
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2079
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 10: By the way I was, I was like pretty stoned

2080
01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 10: for the entire two hours that we were there.

2081
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:12,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2082
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 6: I love getting in trouble at booths. Like my second

2083
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:17,880
Speaker 6: or third sees. I used to have this thing where

2084
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 6: I would go I would seek out all of the

2085
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 6: rugged products because this was right when they were starting

2086
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:24,559
Speaker 6: to make a bunch of bluetooth speakers fifteen years ago,

2087
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 6: starting to make a bunch of like blue like power

2088
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 6: banks and stuff. So like rugged electronics was coming into

2089
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 6: like its own as a field, and so I would

2090
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 6: always I would track down like where they had and

2091
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 6: there was there was one year where one of the

2092
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:40,080
Speaker 6: companies selling them had a bunch of like these big

2093
01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 6: boxy rugged speakers and like logs that like you could

2094
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 6: sit on or that they were stacking them on. They

2095
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:47,280
Speaker 6: just brought the logs as decorations, right, but they were

2096
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:50,160
Speaker 6: like stump sized logs. And I asked them like, hey,

2097
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 6: so it's like drop resistant, crush proof, and they were

2098
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:54,560
Speaker 6: like walking me through the stats, and I was like,

2099
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 6: can I try just dropping one of these logs on

2100
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 6: top of it? And they were like yeah, And so

2101
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 6: I fucking hit as hard as the son of a

2102
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 6: bitch in half.

2103
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 2: And said you must leave, you must put the log down.

2104
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 2: She apologized to me because she said it. I asked,

2105
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:16,200
Speaker 2: I didn't do I didn't assault the device.

2106
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 3: Well, you assaulted the device, but with expressed.

2107
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 2: With that with consent. But this was also a device

2108
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 2: you are mint to a soul.

2109
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:25,719
Speaker 6: Yes, well that and that's what my very first cees.

2110
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 6: They had an indestructible cell phone, not a smartphone cell phone,

2111
01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 6: and they took a bunch of journalists out too. I

2112
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 6: think we were in front of Caesar's. Maybe it was

2113
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 6: the Venetian, but they had like a car that had

2114
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:40,160
Speaker 6: like company branding on it, and they would each journalist

2115
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 6: could go and set the phone down and they would

2116
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 6: drive over it with like an suv, right to show

2117
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 6: you how tough it is. And everyone did the exact

2118
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 6: same thing and took a video while it was driving

2119
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 6: over it, and I did the same thing as everyone else.

2120
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:54,560
Speaker 6: I put the phone down flat, they drove over it.

2121
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:56,599
Speaker 6: I was like, yep, that's a tough phone. And one

2122
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 6: guy stacked it on its side and they drove over

2123
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 6: it popped it right open because it hit a seam.

2124
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 6: And that is one of the most influential like moments

2125
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:08,640
Speaker 6: in my career as a journalist where it's like, that's

2126
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 6: that's how you do.

2127
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:12,479
Speaker 2: I feel like this is that this is the CS thing.

2128
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 2: It's like, we have got one thing this does and

2129
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:17,760
Speaker 2: most people are not going to ask because this is

2130
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 2: not for people to use, it's for people to sell.

2131
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 2: And it's like, oh yeah, yeah, well what if it

2132
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:27,840
Speaker 2: does this? Wait? What does it work? I feel like

2133
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:29,680
Speaker 2: you were talking about something earlier, Chloe. It was just

2134
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:32,559
Speaker 2: like you asked one question. My brain just seizing up

2135
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 2: in real time.

2136
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to remember, which I just have so

2137
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 4: many people I've been like what's the point?

2138
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the question. It's like, what's the point? And

2139
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 2: then like why fuck way, no one's ever asked does Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

2140
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:48,439
Speaker 2: you got anyth dregs left, Chloe things to declare.

2141
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:51,680
Speaker 3: I saw this is not a well I actually don't

2142
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 3: know what product this is associated with.

2143
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 2: It must be a product way for the best.

2144
01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 3: But there was a like test how strong your your

2145
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 3: punch is? Oh yeah, they've had section And I stood

2146
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:06,360
Speaker 3: for a couple of minutes and just watched with the

2147
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 3: greatest respect, the dweebiest, loseriest, sweet little dorks, some young,

2148
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:20,360
Speaker 3: many old walk up and just like try and rail

2149
01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 3: this thing, and like, you know, everybody punched it, but

2150
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 3: watching watching dudes in just like weirdly fitting suits whose

2151
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 3: faces move a little strange, be like it is my

2152
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 3: turn to punch now. I was like, this is incredible,

2153
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:36,120
Speaker 3: this is beautiful. And I was like, I'm not gonna

2154
01:40:36,160 --> 01:40:37,680
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna take a video of this. I'm not

2155
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 3: gonna take it. This is I'm not trying to like,

2156
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be mean. I'm not trying to

2157
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 3: make this a sideshow, but this is cinema. Yeah.

2158
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 2: I saw also like there was one where you could

2159
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:50,519
Speaker 2: throw footballs at target, and I was just I watched

2160
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:53,599
Speaker 2: this old man just walk up and just fucking lamping

2161
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 2: the footballs and then he just and he's like, wife

2162
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 2: was like like videoing him do it, and they just

2163
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:02,320
Speaker 2: walked off and you could see the people both be like, wait,

2164
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 2: you're not gonna talk to us about the TV and

2165
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:08,879
Speaker 2: they just walked off. That guy fucking rocks. That's beautiful.

2166
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:10,760
Speaker 2: I want to throw the football and I don't want

2167
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:13,679
Speaker 2: to go I'm done here. I don't need to talk

2168
01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 2: to you and your like Gooby TV or whatever it was.

2169
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:18,200
Speaker 2: It was like one of the weird off brand television

2170
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 2: companies that spends way too much of this show. Yeah,

2171
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 2: you'll first see us and you'll now really, I feel

2172
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 2: like this is an I don't want to say atypical year,

2173
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:30,080
Speaker 2: but it's one of the Sadden ones, Like I'm having

2174
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:32,440
Speaker 2: a great time new ideas.

2175
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:35,439
Speaker 11: One thing I maybe the only thing I liked actually

2176
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:38,639
Speaker 11: was I saw this massive John Deere tractor.

2177
01:41:38,640 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 2: Didn't know they could be this fucking big, massive two

2178
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 2: story houses.

2179
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:45,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, literally, I climbed stairs to get up there had

2180
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 11: crazy hydraulic if I had a vision of of just

2181
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:55,639
Speaker 11: not doing any of this ship at farming with the with.

2182
01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 2: The big as tract really and right by farming.

2183
01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, with the industrial farming from a long line of farmers.

2184
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 11: I feel like that that felt right for a second,

2185
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:05,000
Speaker 11: and then I had intest of thoughts about running over

2186
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 11: all the tech.

2187
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that would be.

2188
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:11,599
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, that I felt more when I climbed up there,

2189
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:14,599
Speaker 10: I started, you know, because it's you climb into this

2190
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:17,599
Speaker 10: thing and you're thirty feet above the ground and it's

2191
01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 10: like the bridge of like the Starship Enterprise. It's like

2192
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 10: a hydraulic chair and like a giant thing, and you're

2193
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 10: looking at the it's the rest of the show floor

2194
01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:28,519
Speaker 10: and you're just like, oh, if I had a missile

2195
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:30,599
Speaker 10: launcher on this, I could blow.

2196
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 2: It all up.

2197
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:33,479
Speaker 10: And the front of it looks like weaponry because it's

2198
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 10: like twenty like imagine a cone the shape of a

2199
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:39,519
Speaker 10: traffic cone, but as tall as a person, right, and

2200
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:42,760
Speaker 10: then on its end like with the sharp part pointed out,

2201
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:44,160
Speaker 10: like twenty of those lined up.

2202
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 2: That's what you're it's right, it is.

2203
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:50,800
Speaker 10: I believe it's picking corn like off the cobs and

2204
01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 10: putting it into a giant like dump truck looking thing

2205
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:57,280
Speaker 10: that that that goes along in sync with it, which

2206
01:42:57,320 --> 01:42:59,720
Speaker 10: is another part of the gap between the stuff with

2207
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 10: the sh in reality, because it's like this is so

2208
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:04,799
Speaker 10: far from what most people think of it as a farm.

2209
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:06,200
Speaker 10: You know, this looks like.

2210
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:10,120
Speaker 2: But that's how but that's how most farms is. Oh,

2211
01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:12,759
Speaker 2: I know, but it's it's just the gap between.

2212
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:15,800
Speaker 10: It looks like if you were playing like a video

2213
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:20,120
Speaker 10: game and you were like terraforming mars like this, this

2214
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 10: thing looks.

2215
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:23,200
Speaker 2: Like I just like the idea of a giant tractor

2216
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:25,679
Speaker 2: and just turning the fucking thing on, driving forward until

2217
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 2: I'm out at this convention center.

2218
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:31,519
Speaker 12: Could drive away, just head for the hills, Yeah, just

2219
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:33,679
Speaker 12: to just stop to hit red Rock, go out.

2220
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:35,559
Speaker 2: To Area fifty one, me and the boys.

2221
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:38,559
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's our dear president.

2222
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:40,680
Speaker 2: That's one of his bits, right, Remember when he had

2223
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:41,320
Speaker 2: that truck and.

2224
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:41,639
Speaker 3: He was.

2225
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 2: Just drive away.

2226
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:46,559
Speaker 11: They won't let me, But I could just go off

2227
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 11: into the sunset.

2228
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:48,320
Speaker 4: You could.

2229
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 11: You could do that up the tractor, you know, if

2230
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 11: you maybe if you're hot, worried. I don't know if

2231
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 11: it actually has an.

2232
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:56,920
Speaker 3: Imagine you could imagine a tractor that you are describing

2233
01:43:57,080 --> 01:43:59,720
Speaker 3: is the size of a spaceship. But if you just

2234
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 3: know exactly where to cut, you can just make red

2235
01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 3: wire technically wire and turn this thing on.

2236
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:11,280
Speaker 2: Yes, Massacre mo over Sea the last US track to Massacre.

2237
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 3: Blasting big green tractor out of the speakers there were.

2238
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:16,720
Speaker 10: I do want to say behind us in line for

2239
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:19,599
Speaker 10: the tractor, there was like a bunch of folks from

2240
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:23,080
Speaker 10: Japan and they were like vibrating with excitement to get

2241
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 10: in the tractor. Because I can only imagine just the

2242
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 10: americanness of a John Deere tractor and the size of it.

2243
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 10: It was like they were they like shoved me out

2244
01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 10: of the way to get in.

2245
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:35,320
Speaker 2: I'm I will also say this is a unique thing

2246
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:38,599
Speaker 2: that Americans can't understand how small some other countries are.

2247
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:39,960
Speaker 2: Look when I got to American and I saw my

2248
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:42,639
Speaker 2: first cruise ship, I kind of freaked the fuck out.

2249
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 2: I say, it's just so large, so much, it looks

2250
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 2: like the size of London. Upsetting. I still freak out

2251
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:53,560
Speaker 2: over them. They're huge and they're terrifying. They look horrifying,

2252
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 2: and like, if I go on this big tractor, I

2253
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:59,040
Speaker 2: would either feel overwhelmed with power or like just like

2254
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:01,880
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to exist. But I also liked that

2255
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 2: they had a big tractor. See if that makes me.

2256
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:06,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like the big tractor is like the

2257
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 6: ring of power and that Yeah, no matter whether or

2258
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:11,599
Speaker 6: not you like hate it, before you get behind the wheel,

2259
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:13,960
Speaker 6: as soon as you start driving it, it changes you.

2260
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 2: You just hit dragula.

2261
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's like it was pretty clear. It was pretty

2262
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:23,720
Speaker 10: clear you don't even drive this thing you supervised. Yeah,

2263
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:26,799
Speaker 10: Mar this would be my green Goblin mosque.

2264
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:29,599
Speaker 6: You've got mister Wharf behind you on the weapons tail

2265
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:31,680
Speaker 6: rikers outside.

2266
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:37,760
Speaker 2: Alex Heath is hand Sorry, Alex, Sorry, Alex. I don't

2267
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:39,400
Speaker 2: mean I'm not going to run you over the track.

2268
01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 2: I do love that.

2269
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:42,080
Speaker 11: Every now and then you'll name jobs when you're like,

2270
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:44,679
Speaker 11: I wish I could do bodily harm just kidding.

2271
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:47,320
Speaker 2: I also would not do bodily harm to Alex Heath.

2272
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 2: I apologize, Alex.

2273
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:51,880
Speaker 6: Not what the poster that you made and put on

2274
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 6: the wall. I wasn't gonna comment on it.

2275
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:58,559
Speaker 2: It's weird, but just the fucking signal chat from lost

2276
01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:01,520
Speaker 2: was just like an action of threat against an executive.

2277
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:03,080
Speaker 2: I was like, oh yeah, and it was the second

2278
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:05,599
Speaker 2: I got here as well. He was like, Samuel, when

2279
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:07,560
Speaker 2: we're going to and I'm not going to fucking repeat it.

2280
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:12,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's not illegal to make actionable threats against people.

2281
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 2: It's not. It depends on what.

2282
01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:22,080
Speaker 12: Who you voted for, folks. Yeah, it's These are jokes.

2283
01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:25,200
Speaker 12: These are bits bits. We're doing bits. We're having a laugh.

2284
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 12: We're having a laugh. It's bans it's we're bantmaxing.

2285
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 2: We're bantering. Yeah, yeah, that's that's how it works. So Adam,

2286
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:34,400
Speaker 2: this is your last day though. Did you see anything

2287
01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:37,439
Speaker 2: you liked it? So you're on it of all? Yeah? No, no,

2288
01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:40,679
Speaker 2: I know. I was vaping. I have a dry herb vape,

2289
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:42,800
Speaker 2: which is the best way to consume week Hi. I

2290
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:44,519
Speaker 2: actually am curious what does that mean?

2291
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:46,640
Speaker 10: Okay, so what it means? I love explaining this. What

2292
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:48,559
Speaker 10: it means is you you know, Robert, you know what

2293
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 10: this is. Yeah, it's just like a vape that, yeah,

2294
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:53,599
Speaker 10: you put material in it. Most vapes that people think

2295
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:56,559
Speaker 10: of our oil that have like chemically extracted the THHC

2296
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:57,960
Speaker 10: and suspended it in like an.

2297
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:00,240
Speaker 2: All of the vapes used to work a volcano and

2298
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 2: stuff when we were kidding.

2299
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:05,599
Speaker 10: This is you put plant material in it. It heats

2300
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:07,759
Speaker 10: it to a precise temperature where it does not burn.

2301
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:11,360
Speaker 10: It just vaporizes the THHC and other oils oils, and

2302
01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:13,200
Speaker 10: one of the great things about it is it makes

2303
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:15,920
Speaker 10: almost no vapor. So you I use this thing at

2304
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:19,519
Speaker 10: the fucking airport, Like nobody noticed. You know, no one's

2305
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:20,920
Speaker 10: looking at you. No one is going to know as

2306
01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 10: you're using this thing. So it is great for this

2307
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 10: kind of environment, but it.

2308
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:29,639
Speaker 3: Doesn't taste like strawberry melon. I guess weed babes maybe

2309
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 3: never do wow. Spoken like a person who really knows

2310
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 3: her drugs.

2311
01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:37,760
Speaker 10: Uh, I did see something that I really did pop for,

2312
01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 10: which was and Ed was there too, the uh uh

2313
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:45,880
Speaker 10: it was ah okay. So imagine like a white van,

2314
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:48,960
Speaker 10: like a normal van, and on top of it are

2315
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 10: sort of a couple of blue tubes that go up

2316
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:53,400
Speaker 10: and down and rotate, kind of like a like if

2317
01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 10: you built like a lego version of an anti aircraft

2318
01:47:56,840 --> 01:47:59,679
Speaker 10: that looks like that looks like a home anti aircraft weapon,

2319
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:02,080
Speaker 10: And it turns out that's what it was because it

2320
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:03,280
Speaker 10: shoots a net at.

2321
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 2: Drones using not gunpowder. It's just some kind of electromagnet.

2322
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 2: So it's like a like almost a rail gun type.

2323
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:13,080
Speaker 2: I asked the guy was this a rail gun, and

2324
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:13,559
Speaker 2: he was like.

2325
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 4: What's a rail gun?

2326
01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:19,639
Speaker 2: Magnets to propel around? Nothing trail gun with you.

2327
01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:22,800
Speaker 10: Sorry, it's like a it's like a yeah, like a

2328
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:23,599
Speaker 10: sci fi torp.

2329
01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:24,720
Speaker 2: Can we cut that out of.

2330
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:28,960
Speaker 10: But yeah, so it shoots a it shoots a net

2331
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:31,680
Speaker 10: at the drone and then it catches the drone and

2332
01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 10: then there's a little parachute so the drone like falls

2333
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 10: down to Earth so you can it was like super

2334
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:38,240
Speaker 10: fucking just like Metal Gear Solid five.

2335
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's just because it's like he was like, there's

2336
01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:44,439
Speaker 11: a legal gray area where it's like, you know, you

2337
01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:46,800
Speaker 11: see a drone that you don't know and you're like,

2338
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:47,519
Speaker 11: whose drone is this?

2339
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:49,800
Speaker 2: And you want to shoot it, but you can't. You know,

2340
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:50,840
Speaker 2: you might get in trouble.

2341
01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 10: So he says, so you're not destroying it, you can

2342
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:57,919
Speaker 10: just you can give it back to the owner after.

2343
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:00,600
Speaker 2: You retrieve it. That shit on the back of my

2344
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:05,160
Speaker 2: truck like a technical and in the park, just driving

2345
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 2: you pick up truck with a bunch of drones in

2346
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:07,720
Speaker 2: the back.

2347
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:10,000
Speaker 3: I mean, what we think mad Max is going to

2348
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:12,680
Speaker 3: look like is like old gas trucks. It's actually going

2349
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:15,360
Speaker 3: to just be semi trucks with drone trophies.

2350
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:19,880
Speaker 10: Because the drones are going to have countermeasures. Eventually, they're

2351
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:22,000
Speaker 10: going to all they are chaff or they're going.

2352
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:24,240
Speaker 6: To dodge, you know, they've already I mean that's yeah,

2353
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:26,000
Speaker 6: that is the nature of drug Like that's what we're

2354
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:28,519
Speaker 6: seeing in Ukraine right now, which is like it's it's this,

2355
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 6: it's gotten to this insane escalation of countermeasure where if

2356
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:33,719
Speaker 6: you go to a lot of frontline villages, they're covered

2357
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:36,680
Speaker 6: in miles of fiber optic cable. It looks like the

2358
01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 6: whole dilage is covered in spiderweb. Question, because you almost

2359
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:42,799
Speaker 6: have to have all of the drones be wired because

2360
01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:46,240
Speaker 6: jamming is so prevalent, right, so if that you can't

2361
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:48,600
Speaker 6: jam jam one that's got like a wire on it.

2362
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:51,080
Speaker 6: So they're basically taking off with these long spools and

2363
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:54,559
Speaker 6: flying around and it leaves because they're getting shot down constantly.

2364
01:49:54,640 --> 01:49:57,240
Speaker 6: Drones don't have a long life span in the field,

2365
01:49:57,640 --> 01:49:59,559
Speaker 6: so you just wind up with these villages that are

2366
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:03,840
Speaker 6: it looks like a giant spider full of cables webbed.

2367
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:07,040
Speaker 4: That like hangs on the tree, have no idea about.

2368
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the drone warfare's nuts. Fuck, I hate it.

2369
01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:13,840
Speaker 6: That's the thing that came closest to killing me overseas

2370
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:17,639
Speaker 6: was a fucking drown But yeah, it's it's it's all

2371
01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:21,280
Speaker 6: this like Red Queen measure countermeasure ship. Like everyone's been

2372
01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:24,280
Speaker 6: sprinting as fast as possible to stay more or less

2373
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:26,280
Speaker 6: in place for the last four years.

2374
01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:28,240
Speaker 2: What I liked about this company was I was like,

2375
01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:29,720
Speaker 2: is this for the military, And he.

2376
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 10: Was like, I mean, we're pitching the military, but like,

2377
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:35,400
Speaker 10: you know, mate, we talked to him, but like we

2378
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:38,000
Speaker 10: think you could use it, you know, to like guard

2379
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:41,719
Speaker 10: a private you know, like a power plant, or like I.

2380
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:43,920
Speaker 2: Was like, use it at Coachella or whatever. I mean.

2381
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:44,599
Speaker 2: I uh.

2382
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 10: Once there's an episode of Adam Ruins Everything where we

2383
01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 10: couldn't shoot for like ninety minutes because some dumb ass

2384
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:51,280
Speaker 10: was flying a drone over the shoot and we could.

2385
01:50:51,360 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 10: We had to find the guy to stop because it

2386
01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:55,320
Speaker 10: was fucking like because he used it.

2387
01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:57,240
Speaker 2: That day, ye had to break his legs. I remember

2388
01:50:57,280 --> 01:51:06,400
Speaker 2: that episode in That's I love that. I do love Honestly,

2389
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:08,320
Speaker 2: every time I hear about this, I just want to

2390
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:11,439
Speaker 2: play with one. I just want to shoot a guy

2391
01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:14,400
Speaker 2: like Duck Hunt, like your guy Jesus Christ.

2392
01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:19,120
Speaker 3: Just a guy in the sky. Okay, okay, yeah, see

2393
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:20,160
Speaker 3: a guy.

2394
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:25,080
Speaker 5: Shot down exactly what I mean, exactly that understand what

2395
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:25,439
Speaker 5: I mean.

2396
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 4: Not a guy.

2397
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:33,600
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at in the streets and capture in

2398
01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:34,160
Speaker 2: my nets.

2399
01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:37,080
Speaker 3: He's got to be high enough that that there van.

2400
01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 4: Guns have to be able to aim at them.

2401
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:41,479
Speaker 6: The last time I saw the Blue Angels at fleet

2402
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:44,240
Speaker 6: during Fleet Week in San Francisco, I couldn't stop myself

2403
01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:45,400
Speaker 6: from thinking like I could take them.

2404
01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 2: I could take them. I feel like I could take

2405
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:50,479
Speaker 2: take him. Went out.

2406
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 6: Well, they're flying real close to each other. I feel

2407
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:57,320
Speaker 6: like it's not hard to fuck that up. Shove just

2408
01:51:57,320 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 6: a little shop. It's like a because they're in a plane.

2409
01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:02,799
Speaker 2: Yeah rock sure, yeah.

2410
01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, no, we do actually want to take them out.

2411
01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 2: With Okay, So they're flying pretty low.

2412
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:11,120
Speaker 3: If I ever need to take the Blue Angels, I

2413
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:11,960
Speaker 3: would like these.

2414
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 4: How low? Like are we talking one hundred feet?

2415
01:52:15,080 --> 01:52:16,760
Speaker 6: Feel like if you get on top of the Salesforce

2416
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 6: tower when they're doing some of those like really low flights,

2417
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:21,320
Speaker 6: get like a potato gun. You could get one of

2418
01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 6: those lodge right into one of the area intake things.

2419
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:27,160
Speaker 6: Oh sure, and they're probably like they're they're going so fast.

2420
01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:29,920
Speaker 6: I feel like any little mistake would be catastrophic.

2421
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:34,920
Speaker 10: Yeah he is, And don't get up the Harlem Globe drivers, Okay,

2422
01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 10: manhunt look like you know, you're like posted up on

2423
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 10: the Salesforce tower.

2424
01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:46,559
Speaker 2: You used a potato gun parody parody he's doing He's

2425
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:50,960
Speaker 2: doing Bess Spence were Bents Spence? Yeah, Fence. But yeah,

2426
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:54,840
Speaker 2: it's so it is quite funny watching people like I'm

2427
01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:57,599
Speaker 2: gonna call you to normal. I think that that's fair.

2428
01:52:57,880 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, watching a lot of my exes would disagree.

2429
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, but normal You've seen this show and it's

2430
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 2: funny watching regular people just be like, yeah, so most

2431
01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:11,000
Speaker 2: of it's useless, most of it doesn't work, some of it,

2432
01:53:11,120 --> 01:53:12,959
Speaker 2: most of it will never exist.

2433
01:53:13,560 --> 01:53:15,559
Speaker 3: I mean I asked the question in the last episode

2434
01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 3: with none of these guys here, I've basically said, uh,

2435
01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 3: what does what is the point of CS? I was like,

2436
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:25,880
Speaker 3: what does anybody walk away from CES with you?

2437
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well I was asking Edward and maybe someone here

2438
01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:32,559
Speaker 2: knows the answer. Who's the customer? Like I went to

2439
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:34,120
Speaker 2: toy fair once and at.

2440
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:38,240
Speaker 10: Toy Fair there's there's buyers from retail chains walking around

2441
01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:40,840
Speaker 10: going like yes, I'll take ten thousand sticky hands or whatever,

2442
01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:41,559
Speaker 10: which makes sense.

2443
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:45,880
Speaker 2: Who here? It's not custom Like, who's there are?

2444
01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 6: So there's CS is really a couple of different events, right,

2445
01:53:49,400 --> 01:53:51,840
Speaker 6: A huge number of the booths here, particularly when you

2446
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:53,760
Speaker 6: get to the areas where all of the company all

2447
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:55,840
Speaker 6: the booths are small, and all of the companies have

2448
01:53:56,000 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 6: like different like like Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean, or Taiwanese names.

2449
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:03,040
Speaker 6: Right when you get to like that chunk of the

2450
01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:06,320
Speaker 6: of the of the show, most of the people who

2451
01:54:06,360 --> 01:54:09,000
Speaker 6: are walking around those booths, it's not like journalists because

2452
01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:11,040
Speaker 6: in a lot of cases, a bunch of the booths

2453
01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:13,360
Speaker 6: have the same products that are just like slightly different,

2454
01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:16,320
Speaker 6: like the same battery, but a different case. Because who's

2455
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:19,360
Speaker 6: advertising there are like OEMs, it's like factories and like

2456
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:23,080
Speaker 6: manufacturers of different like things that are advertising we make this,

2457
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:25,479
Speaker 6: we make this, and you can like buy this part

2458
01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:28,599
Speaker 6: to make or to sell like as part of other

2459
01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:31,519
Speaker 6: tech gear, right, And there are buyers and there are

2460
01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:34,760
Speaker 6: representatives of companies that are like looking to contract with

2461
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 6: manufacturers and whatnot who make can.

2462
01:54:37,120 --> 01:54:37,960
Speaker 2: Do business here.

2463
01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:40,000
Speaker 6: That's like a chunk of the event that we don't

2464
01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:43,520
Speaker 6: have really any because that's not journalists aren't interested in that.

2465
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:47,280
Speaker 2: And that's most of that is kind of full of

2466
01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 2: these I was mentioning like photonic scent sense and we

2467
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 2: had things.

2468
01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 6: Just for like one group I went past like twenty

2469
01:54:53,960 --> 01:54:56,840
Speaker 6: booths that we're all just selling different pieces of solar panels. Right, yeah,

2470
01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 6: that's not form valid, right, and that's fine and that

2471
01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 6: so that's like a big chunk of the event. And

2472
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:05,400
Speaker 6: then another chunk of the event is consumer electronics, which

2473
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:07,480
Speaker 6: is where most of the bullshit is, right because it's

2474
01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 6: like eighty percent, well, this, no one will ever buy this,

2475
01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 6: this is a terrible idea, and twenty percent ranging from Okay,

2476
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:16,880
Speaker 6: there's probably a customer for this to like, oh, that's

2477
01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:20,840
Speaker 6: actually really cool. And then the third chunk of the event,

2478
01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:23,960
Speaker 6: which journalists are also involved in, is like this is

2479
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:26,360
Speaker 6: not a product yet, but it will be, or these

2480
01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 6: are ways in which we are looking to integrate technology

2481
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:31,440
Speaker 6: into like things that are above the consumer level, like

2482
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:33,920
Speaker 6: all of the smart city stuff, all of like the

2483
01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:37,960
Speaker 6: smart vehicle stuff, right where journalists are interested in that,

2484
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:40,440
Speaker 6: consumers are interested in that, but you as a consumer,

2485
01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 6: an't going to go buy a smart street light, right Yeah.

2486
01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:45,720
Speaker 6: So that so I kind of look at as like

2487
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:48,320
Speaker 6: those are the three events that cees is.

2488
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 2: Okay, that's clarifying, thank you. Yeah. I think like the

2489
01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:54,240
Speaker 2: majority of this year just feels like chat GPT wrappers. Yeah.

2490
01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:56,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's most of what most of what I've seen

2491
01:55:56,320 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 6: as some form of AI chatbot integration or glasses we'll chat.

2492
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:05,840
Speaker 10: I saw one interesting uh we talked to one vendor

2493
01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:08,760
Speaker 10: that was like an AI thing that actually seemed to

2494
01:56:08,840 --> 01:56:12,920
Speaker 10: kind of do something okay, which was they, Okay, if

2495
01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:16,680
Speaker 10: you have an autonomous driving system and it goes on

2496
01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:20,480
Speaker 10: a drive and the drive doesn't go well, this will

2497
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:24,280
Speaker 10: simulate a slight version of the like they can take

2498
01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:27,560
Speaker 10: a real drive, turn it into a simulation, and then

2499
01:56:27,680 --> 01:56:29,720
Speaker 10: have the agent or whatever it is, the weay mo

2500
01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:34,919
Speaker 10: do it again like in its head.

2501
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:35,320
Speaker 2: To like make it do it better the next time.

2502
01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:38,600
Speaker 10: I'm like, okay, that that seems like sure a company,

2503
01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 10: an AI company that a different one of these companies

2504
01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 10: my contracts will date specifically.

2505
01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:44,600
Speaker 6: What I like about that is that that's a company.

2506
01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:46,320
Speaker 6: I don't know how all this product will work, but

2507
01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 6: that's a company that's thinking about solving a problem.

2508
01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2509
01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:52,200
Speaker 6: I always gravitate towards like someone identified a problem and

2510
01:56:52,240 --> 01:56:53,120
Speaker 6: they made a thing.

2511
01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:58,240
Speaker 2: Maybe it doesn't work. I suppose the ones just making

2512
01:56:58,320 --> 01:57:01,160
Speaker 2: up a problem rather than feling to solve it. You

2513
01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:02,000
Speaker 2: know how your.

2514
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:06,200
Speaker 6: Kid doesn't have a robot hallucinating horoscopes for it? Well,

2515
01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:07,240
Speaker 6: we have solved that.

2516
01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:10,480
Speaker 2: Does your does your does? Where? Does does your kid

2517
01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:15,800
Speaker 2: think that Taiwan is Taiwan or China? Right? Well, this, this,

2518
01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 2: this toy is going to tell your child that it

2519
01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:23,120
Speaker 2: has offended it terribly. Do not mention Winnie the pool

2520
01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:27,200
Speaker 2: to ai Bop. You will get fucking drunks, you little

2521
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:30,560
Speaker 2: shit claude. Don't talk about and sweat.

2522
01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:34,000
Speaker 6: Is your four year old having too much trouble finding

2523
01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:37,520
Speaker 6: which under the sink chemicals are most caustic? This new

2524
01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:40,280
Speaker 6: teddy bear will make sure they know and teach them

2525
01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 6: how to open all your pill bottles.

2526
01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:45,360
Speaker 2: This adorable rabbit will teach your five year old about BDSM.

2527
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:47,960
Speaker 2: And what's funny is we are sounding like we're making jokes.

2528
01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:53,480
Speaker 2: No horror, this is a thing happening today. Welcome, Welcome,

2529
01:57:53,640 --> 01:57:55,840
Speaker 2: because you may be thinking, well, also, doesn't it do

2530
01:57:55,880 --> 01:57:58,200
Speaker 2: all the assistant stuff? And you'll be surprised to hear

2531
01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:01,360
Speaker 2: it does not. None of this refuck. I am like

2532
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:04,520
Speaker 2: I would actually love to be elated. I would love

2533
01:58:04,520 --> 01:58:06,480
Speaker 2: to see something I'd love to I brought in so

2534
01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:08,920
Speaker 2: many people spoken in so many hours, and I'll swear

2535
01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:11,880
Speaker 2: to fucking god, I'm trying. There's some like there was.

2536
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:14,640
Speaker 6: Okay, A cool thing I saw today is this company

2537
01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:18,840
Speaker 6: that is advertising like paper batteries, right, okay, and the

2538
01:58:18,880 --> 01:58:22,040
Speaker 6: actual battery isn't isn't paper, but like the battery like

2539
01:58:22,080 --> 01:58:24,880
Speaker 6: the core of the battery is made out of cellulose

2540
01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:28,120
Speaker 6: and so the only other and that decomposes. And so

2541
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:30,840
Speaker 6: basically instead of dealing with batteries the way you do

2542
01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:34,080
Speaker 6: now with batteries like this, you throw them into compost,

2543
01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:36,400
Speaker 6: you compost them, and then you filter the metal bits

2544
01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:38,560
Speaker 6: out and you can recycle the metal bit separately, and

2545
01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:40,480
Speaker 6: then the compost is usable compost.

2546
01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:42,919
Speaker 2: Right, that's useful potentially.

2547
01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:45,600
Speaker 6: Again, I have not looked into this company and done

2548
01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:48,440
Speaker 6: like third party report also how they are claiming it works.

2549
01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:50,040
Speaker 6: I don't know if it works, but it's at least

2550
01:58:50,040 --> 01:58:51,080
Speaker 6: an idea and.

2551
01:58:51,880 --> 01:58:54,040
Speaker 2: By here filter the metals and like, but you know

2552
01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:55,760
Speaker 2: what again, And I'm also like, yeah, who's gonna be

2553
01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:59,840
Speaker 2: doing that also? But that has great ramifications for disposable things.

2554
01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:05,280
Speaker 6: That's against someone's trying, yes to take humanity a step forward,

2555
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:06,680
Speaker 6: and at least that's.

2556
01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:10,400
Speaker 2: Good as opposed to like the eighteenth different VACUUS autonomous

2557
01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:12,920
Speaker 2: driving as opposed to what I saw next to that booth,

2558
01:59:13,000 --> 01:59:15,960
Speaker 2: yea meat which the company name is just M M

2559
01:59:16,120 --> 01:59:16,720
Speaker 2: E E T T.

2560
01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:19,600
Speaker 6: Don't know what that means, and it's it's they have

2561
01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 6: an AI business card. They actually have two different card products.

2562
01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:25,280
Speaker 6: One is it's the size of a business card. If

2563
01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:27,400
Speaker 6: a business card was way thicker and couldn actually fit

2564
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:29,320
Speaker 6: in your wallet and would be super easy to break

2565
01:59:29,360 --> 01:59:32,160
Speaker 6: even if it wasn't your wallet. But you tap into

2566
01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:34,520
Speaker 6: someone's phone and if their phone as an NFT reader

2567
01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:35,000
Speaker 6: like or.

2568
01:59:35,200 --> 01:59:39,320
Speaker 2: Not n F NFC, Sorry, oh I couldn't.

2569
01:59:39,480 --> 01:59:42,560
Speaker 6: If your phone has an NFC reader, it'll pop populate

2570
01:59:42,640 --> 01:59:44,960
Speaker 6: automatically with their like business card.

2571
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:48,440
Speaker 2: And one quick problem sure if you bump in phone together,

2572
01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:51,400
Speaker 2: it will do this without you having like an easily

2573
01:59:51,400 --> 01:59:52,560
Speaker 2: breakable piece of electron.

2574
01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:55,200
Speaker 6: Interesting what if I told you would? Also, as long

2575
01:59:55,240 --> 02:00:00,480
Speaker 6: as you have an Internet connection, can translate things because

2576
02:00:00,520 --> 02:00:02,640
Speaker 6: they can just stick that on whatever. Now I would

2577
02:00:03,000 --> 02:00:07,120
Speaker 6: I'm using a shitty speaker, I assume, Oh well, I'm sold.

2578
02:00:07,240 --> 02:00:09,040
Speaker 2: I just fucking And.

2579
02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:12,480
Speaker 6: The other product they had was a thicker card that

2580
02:00:12,520 --> 02:00:15,280
Speaker 6: they bragged with as thin as three millimeters houses for

2581
02:00:15,680 --> 02:00:19,120
Speaker 6: AI assistants, all the chat bots, they don't actually live

2582
02:00:19,160 --> 02:00:22,040
Speaker 6: in the product. Again, it's connecting. Why do you need internet?

2583
02:00:23,680 --> 02:00:27,640
Speaker 2: Really simple? What is for? Is that just different? That's

2584
02:00:27,640 --> 02:00:31,040
Speaker 2: just prompt engineering. These motherfuckers are claiming as like eleven AI.

2585
02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:34,120
Speaker 6: Ah, no, no, you're you're being unfair. They've got the

2586
02:00:34,200 --> 02:00:38,880
Speaker 6: AI meeting assistant turn conversations anywhere into summaries, insights and

2587
02:00:38,960 --> 02:00:40,800
Speaker 6: action items to boost productivity.

2588
02:00:42,400 --> 02:00:43,320
Speaker 2: They've got an AI.

2589
02:00:43,200 --> 02:00:47,160
Speaker 6: Translation assistant break language barriers across one hundred.

2590
02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:50,040
Speaker 4: And forty five So there's not four ais.

2591
02:00:49,640 --> 02:00:52,640
Speaker 2: No, it's just four different things. Does it's just prompt engineering?

2592
02:00:52,680 --> 02:00:54,880
Speaker 2: Because I don't think they were lying to explain.

2593
02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:57,480
Speaker 3: Because it's like all using chat gpty so to explain

2594
02:00:57,520 --> 02:00:59,960
Speaker 3: to a sales assistant, which is so promptent.

2595
02:01:00,160 --> 02:01:02,560
Speaker 2: Ring is literally just every single AI product you have

2596
02:01:02,640 --> 02:01:05,360
Speaker 2: ever seen on this floor is just prompts. It's prompts

2597
02:01:05,400 --> 02:01:08,240
Speaker 2: for the API and telling it you are a sales assistant,

2598
02:01:08,360 --> 02:01:11,360
Speaker 2: you are a meeting assistant. That's all it is. It's

2599
02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:13,880
Speaker 2: just text. It's just it's all text. Every single one

2600
02:01:13,920 --> 02:01:17,560
Speaker 2: of these is just text. I am Yeah, Well, what

2601
02:01:17,600 --> 02:01:19,320
Speaker 2: about the pixels yeah.

2602
02:01:19,560 --> 02:01:26,200
Speaker 6: Sometimes it's Yes, it's multimodal an AI inspiration assistant ideas

2603
02:01:26,240 --> 02:01:28,000
Speaker 6: and develop them in the future possibility.

2604
02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:30,840
Speaker 3: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

2605
02:01:30,840 --> 02:01:31,480
Speaker 3: wait wait.

2606
02:01:31,600 --> 02:01:32,840
Speaker 2: You can use that. You're a writer.

2607
02:01:32,920 --> 02:01:39,760
Speaker 3: You can what do you mean capture fleeting ideas? Do

2608
02:01:39,840 --> 02:01:43,560
Speaker 3: you mean have an idea? Focus on it in I've

2609
02:01:43,560 --> 02:01:50,240
Speaker 3: got to be clear your own brain. Then you can't.

2610
02:01:50,440 --> 02:01:54,920
Speaker 3: An AI can't it. If it's fleeting, it leaves your

2611
02:01:54,960 --> 02:01:59,960
Speaker 3: brain faster than you can type it into your busines

2612
02:02:00,120 --> 02:02:00,560
Speaker 3: his card.

2613
02:02:01,560 --> 02:02:04,200
Speaker 6: I'm thinking about, like, because I keep a notebook and

2614
02:02:04,240 --> 02:02:06,880
Speaker 6: sometimes I like jot down ideas in it. I'm thinking about,

2615
02:02:06,920 --> 02:02:09,640
Speaker 6: like that time I woke up after blacking out and

2616
02:02:09,800 --> 02:02:12,120
Speaker 6: just written on a page in the notebook was Hitler

2617
02:02:12,160 --> 02:02:13,440
Speaker 6: with abs question mark?

2618
02:02:13,480 --> 02:02:14,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2619
02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:17,280
Speaker 6: The AI could have really helped me. That could have

2620
02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:19,600
Speaker 6: been something, you know, Hitler with abs could have been

2621
02:02:19,640 --> 02:02:20,280
Speaker 6: the next goog.

2622
02:02:20,160 --> 02:02:23,840
Speaker 10: Wow, Robert Hitler with abs. Sure is an invigorating and

2623
02:02:24,040 --> 02:02:25,040
Speaker 10: original idea.

2624
02:02:25,080 --> 02:02:28,600
Speaker 11: We're not just coming up with an idea. You're touching

2625
02:02:28,680 --> 02:02:31,200
Speaker 11: into something that everyone else is feeling.

2626
02:02:32,960 --> 02:02:36,320
Speaker 2: What if he had abs? Right? So I'm not just

2627
02:02:36,360 --> 02:02:41,280
Speaker 2: an idea. It's a revolution. That's another hitler with abs

2628
02:02:41,280 --> 02:02:44,120
Speaker 2: that real quick. It's not another one of those tweets

2629
02:02:44,120 --> 02:02:46,640
Speaker 2: about AI wrotes, like every AI thing is like, it's

2630
02:02:46,680 --> 02:02:48,080
Speaker 2: not just big, it's huge.

2631
02:02:48,280 --> 02:02:50,720
Speaker 10: That has literally become to me in the last month

2632
02:02:50,840 --> 02:02:53,880
Speaker 10: that has if whenever I see it's not X, it's y,

2633
02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:55,720
Speaker 10: I'm like, that's LLLM test.

2634
02:02:56,400 --> 02:02:59,760
Speaker 2: So as we wrap up and Adam is finally released

2635
02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:02,160
Speaker 2: into the into the wild again, is that I'm just

2636
02:03:02,160 --> 02:03:04,240
Speaker 2: going to tell you the worst name I saw on

2637
02:03:04,280 --> 02:03:06,560
Speaker 2: the show floor and I fucking looked and it would

2638
02:03:06,560 --> 02:03:07,440
Speaker 2: be junkie Cream.

2639
02:03:07,720 --> 02:03:07,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2640
02:03:08,040 --> 02:03:11,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got junk yunk cream.

2641
02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:15,400
Speaker 2: We love junk and it is just an AI slop company.

2642
02:03:15,560 --> 02:03:18,520
Speaker 2: It was just like it was just I don't want

2643
02:03:18,560 --> 02:03:20,200
Speaker 2: to talk about what they did because they couldn't work

2644
02:03:20,200 --> 02:03:22,160
Speaker 2: it out. And also it was very obviously we're trying

2645
02:03:22,160 --> 02:03:22,920
Speaker 2: to be like because it.

2646
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:24,040
Speaker 4: Is just money.

2647
02:03:24,160 --> 02:03:26,120
Speaker 3: That's so that's exactly. No, no, no, it's like an

2648
02:03:26,120 --> 02:03:29,000
Speaker 3: it's like an illustration. It's like an it's like semi

2649
02:03:29,200 --> 02:03:30,800
Speaker 3: animation producing whatever.

2650
02:03:31,120 --> 02:03:33,880
Speaker 2: It's very clearly meant to make you go junkie.

2651
02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:35,480
Speaker 4: Cream, right, And that's actually exactly.

2652
02:03:35,240 --> 02:03:38,360
Speaker 2: Why I it looks like, come, I haven't brought it.

2653
02:03:38,400 --> 02:03:41,200
Speaker 3: Up because I saw it yesterday and I was like,

2654
02:03:41,320 --> 02:03:42,000
Speaker 3: junkie cream.

2655
02:03:42,080 --> 02:03:42,879
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

2656
02:03:42,960 --> 02:03:44,680
Speaker 3: And then as soon as you walk over it's the

2657
02:03:44,720 --> 02:03:49,120
Speaker 3: whole vibe is isn't this crazy junkie cream that ruins it?

2658
02:03:49,280 --> 02:03:51,200
Speaker 3: Like that's not it's not it's not funny anymore.

2659
02:03:51,240 --> 02:03:53,520
Speaker 2: There's a couple of those about yesterday, the jerk off

2660
02:03:53,760 --> 02:03:56,840
Speaker 2: hand and I saw that. I saw that today, and

2661
02:03:56,840 --> 02:03:59,200
Speaker 2: I get the handy. I get exactly what you mean, though,

2662
02:03:59,200 --> 02:04:04,920
Speaker 2: It's like you can look, it's not it's not your

2663
02:04:05,000 --> 02:04:08,200
Speaker 2: grandma's jack off machine. It's like a very sad thing.

2664
02:04:09,080 --> 02:04:12,280
Speaker 3: It's only funny when it's when the product is in earnest,

2665
02:04:12,560 --> 02:04:15,160
Speaker 3: like the Okay, I think, Edward, I think you were

2666
02:04:15,160 --> 02:04:19,520
Speaker 3: talking about toilet cams. But I then saw, I think,

2667
02:04:19,520 --> 02:04:22,960
Speaker 3: a different toilet cam than you did. And when the

2668
02:04:22,960 --> 02:04:25,920
Speaker 3: guy was explaining it to me, he was, first of all,

2669
02:04:26,040 --> 02:04:31,120
Speaker 3: the words camera in your toilet are, at least to

2670
02:04:31,200 --> 02:04:35,960
Speaker 3: a woman, the camera four words that you can string together.

2671
02:04:36,760 --> 02:04:39,360
Speaker 3: And so then when he was explaining it, he was like, yeah,

2672
02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:41,280
Speaker 3: so then the camera. So you put the cam, you

2673
02:04:41,320 --> 02:04:44,160
Speaker 3: put the thing in, and he put you put the

2674
02:04:44,200 --> 02:04:47,080
Speaker 3: camera in your toilet, and and he goes, and I said.

2675
02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:52,000
Speaker 3: I was like, and it's facing down right, and he goes, yeah,

2676
02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:53,320
Speaker 3: he goes.

2677
02:04:53,360 --> 02:04:54,880
Speaker 4: Obviously it's facing down.

2678
02:04:55,520 --> 02:04:57,760
Speaker 3: And I was like, and then he paused and he goes,

2679
02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:00,880
Speaker 3: or maybe it wasn't obvious, and I was like, yeah, honestly.

2680
02:05:01,120 --> 02:05:05,600
Speaker 6: Notting a toilet in a camera and a toilet everything's

2681
02:05:05,640 --> 02:05:06,200
Speaker 6: on the table.

2682
02:05:06,280 --> 02:05:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what you might do.

2683
02:05:08,160 --> 02:05:10,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And what happens to those photos?

2684
02:05:11,440 --> 02:05:12,280
Speaker 3: And what?

2685
02:05:12,280 --> 02:05:15,800
Speaker 2: What? What fuck toilet camera?

2686
02:05:15,920 --> 02:05:17,240
Speaker 4: What is this product supposed to do?

2687
02:05:17,360 --> 02:05:19,360
Speaker 3: It's looking at your ship and going, hey, you got

2688
02:05:19,360 --> 02:05:20,200
Speaker 3: to drink more water.

2689
02:05:20,560 --> 02:05:23,680
Speaker 4: That's the way it does. It insane with a permanent camera.

2690
02:05:23,880 --> 02:05:25,960
Speaker 2: I forget who posted it, but it's like, yeah, I

2691
02:05:26,280 --> 02:05:28,800
Speaker 2: know it's because my piss is like looks like a

2692
02:05:28,880 --> 02:05:29,720
Speaker 2: high viz vest.

2693
02:05:29,920 --> 02:05:33,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, Like the consistency of your poop is already you

2694
02:05:33,480 --> 02:05:34,560
Speaker 10: know it when it's happened.

2695
02:05:34,880 --> 02:05:41,440
Speaker 3: If you're like diary, yeah, yeah, ask them. And this

2696
02:05:41,480 --> 02:05:45,440
Speaker 3: little machine has so many pieces to it, like it's

2697
02:05:45,480 --> 02:05:48,440
Speaker 3: probably you know, like as you're holding it, it feels

2698
02:05:48,440 --> 02:05:51,880
Speaker 3: like it's probably like four separate housings that have been

2699
02:05:51,960 --> 02:05:55,080
Speaker 3: attached together to like make it all work. And I

2700
02:05:55,120 --> 02:05:57,120
Speaker 3: say that it looks it looks fine. I just say

2701
02:05:57,120 --> 02:05:59,720
Speaker 3: that to say, there's a lot of seams in the thing.

2702
02:06:00,200 --> 02:06:03,800
Speaker 2: And a load of pictures of piss, and presumably.

2703
02:06:04,080 --> 02:06:05,840
Speaker 3: That's in the cloud. That's for anybody to ask.

2704
02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:07,240
Speaker 2: Oh good, I'm sure that won't be breached.

2705
02:06:07,320 --> 02:06:10,000
Speaker 3: But I said, I was like, how do you clean

2706
02:06:10,160 --> 02:06:13,080
Speaker 3: the toilet cam? And he said, oh, you clean it

2707
02:06:13,120 --> 02:06:14,920
Speaker 3: in the same way that you would clean your toilet.

2708
02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:18,640
Speaker 4: And I was like, well for all, yeah, really weird?

2709
02:06:19,320 --> 02:06:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, how does he clean his toilet?

2710
02:06:22,160 --> 02:06:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, clean his toilet.

2711
02:06:23,520 --> 02:06:26,800
Speaker 4: The follow up question, how often? Also, this is sitting

2712
02:06:26,800 --> 02:06:27,400
Speaker 4: on the rim.

2713
02:06:27,880 --> 02:06:29,760
Speaker 3: I like, I'm happy to use the scrub brush, but

2714
02:06:29,800 --> 02:06:32,840
Speaker 3: it is once a year at best that I really

2715
02:06:32,880 --> 02:06:35,880
Speaker 3: like getting there with elbow grease around the rim. And

2716
02:06:35,920 --> 02:06:38,560
Speaker 3: then this thing has so many once a year.

2717
02:06:39,480 --> 02:06:40,520
Speaker 4: I guess that's exactly how I.

2718
02:06:41,560 --> 02:06:45,440
Speaker 10: Pay a lady clean your toilet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, to

2719
02:06:45,440 --> 02:06:47,120
Speaker 10: clean my toilet to look through the photo.

2720
02:06:49,280 --> 02:06:52,560
Speaker 3: Also, I have a camera on my toilet. It is

2721
02:06:52,600 --> 02:06:55,120
Speaker 3: called my cell phone, which I bring with me every time.

2722
02:06:56,520 --> 02:06:59,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. All, So just if you I'm just gonna as

2723
02:06:59,360 --> 02:07:01,240
Speaker 2: we wrap, I think this statement I want to make

2724
02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:03,520
Speaker 2: is if you are thinking I'm going to put a

2725
02:07:03,560 --> 02:07:07,040
Speaker 2: camera in a toilet, Your fucking scumbag. I'm sorry, I'm

2726
02:07:07,440 --> 02:07:07,720
Speaker 2: just I.

2727
02:07:08,640 --> 02:07:10,800
Speaker 3: Met the guy who founded the company and he seems

2728
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:12,640
Speaker 3: sweet and like you just had bad shits.

2729
02:07:12,920 --> 02:07:15,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it is like, I don't know, buddy, A

2730
02:07:15,520 --> 02:07:16,320
Speaker 4: camera can't be the.

2731
02:07:16,840 --> 02:07:19,000
Speaker 2: Just but I think the going robot.

2732
02:07:19,040 --> 02:07:21,840
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just because you're right that this is

2733
02:07:22,080 --> 02:07:25,920
Speaker 6: something that is going to be more immediately, Like more

2734
02:07:25,920 --> 02:07:28,280
Speaker 6: women are going to immediately respond negatively to this idea

2735
02:07:28,320 --> 02:07:32,040
Speaker 6: than men because there's a chunk of men. I'm sure

2736
02:07:32,080 --> 02:07:34,200
Speaker 6: there's just a smaller number of women too, but there's

2737
02:07:34,200 --> 02:07:37,560
Speaker 6: a chunk of men who have absolutely no interest in

2738
02:07:37,560 --> 02:07:41,720
Speaker 6: their own privacy, have absolutely no concerns about privacy, and

2739
02:07:41,800 --> 02:07:45,800
Speaker 6: are shocked and kind of scared when they realize other

2740
02:07:45,920 --> 02:07:50,240
Speaker 6: people have a sense of privacy. And most of those

2741
02:07:50,240 --> 02:07:54,880
Speaker 6: guys violation of threat exactly. Yeah, who are Like you

2742
02:07:54,960 --> 02:07:57,200
Speaker 6: don't want a camera on you at all time? You

2743
02:07:57,240 --> 02:07:59,080
Speaker 6: don't want a camera on you, like when you're when

2744
02:07:59,080 --> 02:08:03,080
Speaker 6: you're having sex. That's weird you wouldn't want Yeah, it

2745
02:08:03,160 --> 02:08:04,320
Speaker 6: would be upset if.

2746
02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:07,480
Speaker 2: I had a camera in a public space trained on you.

2747
02:08:07,480 --> 02:08:10,160
Speaker 6: You don't post about how many erections the robots that

2748
02:08:10,280 --> 02:08:11,200
Speaker 6: you have every night.

2749
02:08:12,640 --> 02:08:14,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I bet that's it. All right, We're

2750
02:08:14,520 --> 02:08:16,800
Speaker 2: gonna wrap up. I'm gonna read my favorite name from

2751
02:08:16,840 --> 02:08:22,400
Speaker 2: the the show floor, Shenzen City Wenzita's Motor Manufacture Co. Limited.

2752
02:08:22,680 --> 02:08:26,080
Speaker 2: That's a fucking name. Shen Zen Pan Brain Technology Co. Limited.

2753
02:08:26,280 --> 02:08:29,400
Speaker 2: Hand brain basically like brain brain, like in a head. Yeah,

2754
02:08:29,440 --> 02:08:32,360
Speaker 2: it's like it's actually a really worrying photo. I don't

2755
02:08:32,360 --> 02:08:35,920
Speaker 2: know if that's just like a guy sitting there full

2756
02:08:36,000 --> 02:08:39,320
Speaker 2: sleep faster and it looks like a sleep act near mask.

2757
02:08:39,400 --> 02:08:41,840
Speaker 2: But it just looks like a horrifying thing.

2758
02:08:42,200 --> 02:08:45,520
Speaker 4: It looks like something that people use in kick Yeah.

2759
02:08:45,880 --> 02:08:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like how the guy in Manhunter was

2760
02:08:48,520 --> 02:08:51,320
Speaker 2: like towards the anyway, can I tell one more story? Please?

2761
02:08:51,320 --> 02:08:51,760
Speaker 2: Please please?

2762
02:08:51,840 --> 02:08:54,160
Speaker 10: Okay, just this is the most useful thing that I'm

2763
02:08:54,160 --> 02:08:56,520
Speaker 10: gonna leave with, and you can jump into the story

2764
02:08:56,520 --> 02:08:58,200
Speaker 10: if you want. We went to the Weai Moo booth,

2765
02:08:59,000 --> 02:09:02,320
Speaker 10: which was mostly just way mo is here, you know,

2766
02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:04,720
Speaker 10: waymo here it is. But they had a little line

2767
02:09:05,120 --> 02:09:07,640
Speaker 10: and if you scan your badge and you push a button,

2768
02:09:08,000 --> 02:09:10,600
Speaker 10: it would dispense a little a little goodie for you.

2769
02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:14,000
Speaker 10: And first of all, very clearly there's just a person

2770
02:09:14,200 --> 02:09:14,800
Speaker 10: in there.

2771
02:09:15,440 --> 02:09:18,200
Speaker 2: And they get a very upset if you suggest otherwise.

2772
02:09:18,400 --> 02:09:21,880
Speaker 10: Really if you if you say that, they are but

2773
02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:23,960
Speaker 10: like sometimes you'd scan your thing and then sometimes it

2774
02:09:23,960 --> 02:09:26,120
Speaker 10: would take like four or five seconds and like the

2775
02:09:26,160 --> 02:09:28,640
Speaker 10: little pin would like come out at an irregular angle,

2776
02:09:28,760 --> 02:09:30,560
Speaker 10: like this is a guy back there, and like that's

2777
02:09:30,640 --> 02:09:33,000
Speaker 10: much cheaper than any other mechanism. And then you take

2778
02:09:33,040 --> 02:09:35,520
Speaker 10: the little pin and they go, oh, you're a winner.

2779
02:09:35,560 --> 02:09:37,720
Speaker 10: Everybody was a winner, but like, oh you're a winner.

2780
02:09:37,760 --> 02:09:39,080
Speaker 10: And then you go to a different guy and they

2781
02:09:39,160 --> 02:09:42,120
Speaker 10: give you a way Mo hat and a little beanie

2782
02:09:42,160 --> 02:09:43,960
Speaker 10: and tomorrow I'm flying in Madison, Wisconsin.

2783
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:45,280
Speaker 2: It's going to be cold, and bring a hat.

2784
02:09:45,360 --> 02:09:49,280
Speaker 10: So that's Waimo has made my life.

2785
02:09:50,320 --> 02:09:52,800
Speaker 3: Well advertise for Waymo.

2786
02:09:53,000 --> 02:09:55,440
Speaker 10: I think it's gonna be pretty clear. It's ironic. Okay,

2787
02:09:55,520 --> 02:09:56,600
Speaker 10: if my hat says.

2788
02:09:56,400 --> 02:10:03,640
Speaker 2: We adam my god, I'm so I'm so sorry, I'm.

2789
02:10:03,480 --> 02:10:06,520
Speaker 6: A little I'm a little tipsy. So for a second

2790
02:10:06,560 --> 02:10:08,160
Speaker 6: it was unclear to me. I thought you were saying

2791
02:10:08,200 --> 02:10:10,840
Speaker 6: that Waimo had given you a ticket to Madison, Wisconsin.

2792
02:10:12,360 --> 02:10:14,400
Speaker 6: I was like, what an incredible advertising.

2793
02:10:14,480 --> 02:10:19,600
Speaker 2: Foss stand up to Madison, get in there.

2794
02:10:19,840 --> 02:10:20,440
Speaker 4: Airplane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, as we wrap this up and

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Speaker 2: Adam has to he has to go, Adam, plug your stuff,

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Speaker 2: plug your shit.

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Speaker 10: Okay, I'll be well listen the Factually podcast, which sometimes

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Speaker 10: but I'm gonna be a Madison, Wisconsin docy this weekend,

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Speaker 10: a comedy on State. Next week, I'll be Fort Wayne

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Speaker 10: Summer Comedy Club. After that, Louisville, Houston, Texas, and finally

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Speaker 10: taping a special on at the Punchline in San Francisco

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Speaker 10: from February nineteenth through twenty first.

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Speaker 2: Lovely Chloe, why don't you because you do this too?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do this too. This weekend.

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Speaker 3: I'll be in Cincinnati next week, and I'll be in Washington,

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Speaker 3: d C. And uh the week after that, not the weekend.

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Speaker 3: I will be doing my solo show called Cheat in

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Speaker 3: Philadelphia January twenty twenty one and twenty two, and then

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Speaker 3: at the end of January, I'll be in Vermont and

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Speaker 3: then for Collins and then Fargo, going to Fargo.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's all that's gonna be colder than man.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, of course.

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Speaker 2: And as we wrap of course, in honor of Sean

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Speaker 2: Paul Adams from Friend of the Show past last year,

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Speaker 2: Please dedicate this to and donate to the Pediatric Epilepsy

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Speaker 2: Research Consortium. Shan Paul's son is epileptic and his family

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Speaker 2: would deeply appreciate it. Thank you so much for listening

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Speaker 2: for another day of Better Offline. We'll be back tomorrow

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Speaker 2: and Friday, a little bit on Saturday. I love you all.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Thank you for listening to Better Offline.

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Speaker 2: The editor and composer of the Better Offline theme song

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Speaker 2: is Mattawsowski. You can check out more of his music

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