Speaker 1: Yo, what up my people, it's your boy David Oh.
Speaker 1: And you can catch me live under the Bootleg cav
Speaker 1: podcast Keep in Luck.
Speaker 2: One look, Bootleg CAV show. We got a special guest.
Speaker 2: A legend is in here, man, David Oh. Welcome, sir.
Speaker 3: Well he said it perfect, did I?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's people usually fucking up. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I was a little confused, like like early on, I
Speaker 2: was like, is it David Oh?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? It's David Oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, thank you, big fan of your show.
Speaker 2: Appreciate it, man, thank you for having You're obviously a legend.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I think when we think of like afrobeach, you're kind
Speaker 2: of like the jay Z of the shit Lokey, you know,
Speaker 2: crazy It's good. Yeah. What's it like to kind of
Speaker 2: see your sound that you've been doing for all these
Speaker 2: years become like the sound now.
Speaker 3: You know, Like you know, I was born in Atlanta,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Okay, I've always been like coming to America, but like
Speaker 1: when I became a musician, especially like coming out here
Speaker 1: you know for shows trying to push the music. It
Speaker 1: really don't started with like just like African fans coming
Speaker 1: to the shows, right, you know when we do shows
Speaker 1: out here, and then he started just you know, spreading.
Speaker 1: You know, like even when I was in college and
Speaker 1: I used to play my friends African music and they
Speaker 1: liked to college in Alabama. Okay, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: which which cool.
Speaker 3: It's called Oakwood University.
Speaker 2: It's something that he was raised in the South. Low
Speaker 2: key yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fully, you know what I'm saying. So even when
Speaker 1: I used to play African songs for them, I knew
Speaker 1: that they liked it. So I always knew it was
Speaker 1: always if there was an opportunity to be heard, you know, people,
Speaker 1: you know, fuck with it?
Speaker 2: What's it like? Because I feel like I don't. I
Speaker 2: didn't know that about you, that you were kind of
Speaker 2: you from Atlanta and you were you went to college
Speaker 2: in Alabama. Yeah, that's like the Bible Belt for.
Speaker 1: Real, crazy Huntsville, Alabama, Huntsville Young. I was like sixty
Speaker 1: years old in college. You know, hey, we see you
Speaker 1: and that's coming like straight from Legos, right, you know,
Speaker 1: straight there. And I remember even just being in college
Speaker 1: and talking to like friends there like household, how is
Speaker 1: it in Nigeria?
Speaker 3: Like how did you get here y'all got airports.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Because there were no Edue
Speaker 1: kids that about this, about what's going on here. But
Speaker 1: now you know what I'm saying, You have social media,
Speaker 1: so it's different. They see a different side of Africa
Speaker 1: when you when you tell people that, oh, I'm night Jeri,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I love afrobeats. For me, like fifteen
Speaker 1: years ago, that was not the story, you know what
Speaker 1: was like for you?
Speaker 2: Like can you can you kind of pinpoint in your
Speaker 2: opinion as somebody who you know obviously has a crab
Speaker 2: out here and went to school out here and was
Speaker 2: born here. Can you kind of pinpoint the moment that
Speaker 2: you noticed like America starting to kind of take a
Speaker 2: liking to the genre.
Speaker 1: Definitely to me from my experience, it started like from Atlanta,
Speaker 1: two cities, Atlanta, New York or mainly Atlanta, and just
Speaker 1: like even going out, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: like one thing I knew one of my friends used
Speaker 1: to do. He used to he was a big baller.
Speaker 1: He would go to the club and he like spends
Speaker 1: so much money. But he tell them every time, YO,
Speaker 1: when you bring my bottles out, I want to hear
Speaker 1: this song, right, you know what I'm saying. So the
Speaker 1: DJ is playing it, you know what I'm saying, the
Speaker 1: bottles coming out to the song, you know, and the
Speaker 1: DJ is liking the music. And then that's that was
Speaker 1: like one of my first experiences of like being in
Speaker 1: the club and hearing it. Friend, yeah, and then you know,
Speaker 1: start growing. You know, once the girls like it.
Speaker 2: Once the girls like it, it's over.
Speaker 3: It's over, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So even like girls being in the coby with the guy, Okay,
Speaker 1: you play some afro beats because you know, girls like.
Speaker 3: It, you know, let's do it.
Speaker 2: It obviously became because it was like a big big
Speaker 2: thing in the UK first, right, you know, it was from.
Speaker 3: The UK before you go to America.
Speaker 1: You know, UK was like the first place to I
Speaker 1: know that apro beats, Like we start doing arenas in.
Speaker 3: The UK first, crazy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Afrobeats. UK actually named it Afrobeats, so that's like a
Speaker 1: UK It's like k turn. But then you know, we
Speaker 1: just ran with it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That's fire man. What how much can you attribute to
Speaker 2: Drake embracing it to kind of it being like easily
Speaker 2: bridge to the US because I feel like once Drake
Speaker 2: gets behind anything, for the most part, it can it
Speaker 2: can really take off.
Speaker 1: I mean there's this there's always Niratis like, oh, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Afrobeats was was definitely you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying huge, It was huge because if it
Speaker 1: wasn't he was Drake Drake.
Speaker 2: When it was he was like.
Speaker 1: Before Drake, but you know, Drake is Drake. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So i'd be lying if I see
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He didn't put some spotlight
Speaker 1: to you know, afrobeats. You know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: you know it was dope. He's made some dope you
Speaker 1: know records.
Speaker 2: Yo. What there's this like new trend where there's the
Speaker 2: normal version of a song and then the sped up version.
Speaker 2: Back in the day, I mean you're from the South,
Speaker 2: you know, there was this chopping screwed ship, the screwed
Speaker 2: up ship back in the day to Texas. But now
Speaker 2: I feel like every single there's like the normal version
Speaker 2: and then they got to sped That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Said that because I released the album was out, so
Speaker 1: we released a couple of songs and we released the
Speaker 1: single again with a sped.
Speaker 2: Up Yeah, there's a sped up version.
Speaker 1: Yah's crazy, you know what I'm saying. I don't know
Speaker 1: some songs I don't even know, Like some songs.
Speaker 2: I see on like TikTok and stuff, you don't even
Speaker 2: know the normal version.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be thinking that's that's the original when they
Speaker 1: When I hear, I'm like, oh, okay, it makes sense now.
Speaker 3: I mean. Social media is crazy though, Like it's a
Speaker 3: different avenue.
Speaker 1: When I started music, we used to talk about radio
Speaker 1: and you know not Now it's like podcast. If you're
Speaker 1: promoted me before, just putt on like YouTube or Facebook.
Speaker 1: Right now you got like twenty apps. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta do your promo.
Speaker 2: I know, I keep hoping that TikTok is banned so
Speaker 2: I don't have to worry about it anymore. It's like
Speaker 2: one least day last day. I'm like, if TikTok is banned,
Speaker 2: it just takes one more thing I don't have to
Speaker 2: worry about away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going crazy, Like, yeah, are.
Speaker 2: You pretty big on TikTok.
Speaker 3: I mean, I got a lot of followers, but I'm like, are.
Speaker 2: You like on the app? Scrolling and like get diving
Speaker 2: into the algorithm. Nah nah, because you hit a sucky
Speaker 2: in bro yo.
Speaker 1: And every time I get on TikTok, I'll be there
Speaker 1: for like two hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because whatever you're into, it knows different and everything's
Speaker 2: all because I just love like dogs and food, so
Speaker 2: it just shows me puppy puppies and food.
Speaker 1: I think it's crazy how it can tell what you like,
Speaker 1: just like being on the app. After like a week,
Speaker 1: he's like me, I like food.
Speaker 2: Those you're just like guys who like cooking a minute
Speaker 2: and like got to cook outside. Oh yeah, I love
Speaker 2: that ship. And then I just bought a grill, like
Speaker 2: a griddle, like a little griddler thing outside, So I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm always trying to find like ship to do on
Speaker 2: the grill.
Speaker 3: The guy that throws the butter butter bait, yeah, his food.
Speaker 2: You ever see the uh the guy who does the
Speaker 2: shark bite at the restaurants Big Groove, I think them too.
Speaker 2: He might actually I interviewed him.
Speaker 3: I think he might be.
Speaker 2: The guy's just a massive human being and he does
Speaker 2: very tight close. You gotta get him to do to
Speaker 2: do a dance to yourself, how give me kind of
Speaker 2: like your come up, because if you're in the States,
Speaker 2: you're going to college here, how did how do you
Speaker 2: end up popping off? You go back home?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, just being in Alabama for like before
Speaker 1: I go to college. Obviously I didn't liking to music.
Speaker 1: Of course, we obviously, like you know, my father was
Speaker 1: just olemans about me going to school.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm first generation that Titana in my family.
Speaker 2: You know, so it's a little harder to convince your.
Speaker 1: Everybody's business business business, like hey I want to do this,
Speaker 1: and they're like, was it normal template?
Speaker 3: Now you know what I'm saying. You go to school
Speaker 3: and then you go out and work for the family business.
Speaker 1: And I'm the last kid of five, so it was
Speaker 1: already I was not even thinking about, you know, convincing
Speaker 1: anybody or so, you know, just being in school and awkward.
Speaker 1: Apart from me, it's a church. It's a Christian school,
Speaker 1: so apart from even like going to church, the choirs
Speaker 1: or there are lots of like musicians around the school.
Speaker 1: So the dude that lived like that stayed like on
Speaker 1: top of me in the dorm. He was like goo sposing.
Speaker 1: Guy's name is Jamo. So I always used to hear
Speaker 1: like music, music like, but I never went to check.
Speaker 1: So one day I guess said, let me go check.
Speaker 1: So I went to check and knock the door and
Speaker 1: then he opens his room and it's a whole studio setup.
Speaker 3: Like in the dorm.
Speaker 1: So i'ing like that was just recording himself. So like
Speaker 1: that was like my first time like seeing like a
Speaker 1: laptop in the studio equipment.
Speaker 3: So I was like, Yo, how much is all this?
Speaker 3: And he told me.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, want to buy it? Just teach
Speaker 1: me the way around it. So he was he was
Speaker 1: teaching me. And I also like learned off YouTube, like
Speaker 1: how to make some YouTube.
Speaker 2: University. Man, you can learn anything on YouTube. So what
Speaker 2: was your first interface? Was it like U M audio,
Speaker 2: the little M box plug.
Speaker 3: And play USB and then I had the it was
Speaker 3: It wasn't pro tools, it was logic.
Speaker 2: Logic. Yeah, a lot of people learn on logic.
Speaker 3: So from that I just started recording myself, recording myself.
Speaker 3: But mind you.
Speaker 1: You know, like I said, it's school, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I'd go home every December Christmas. So
Speaker 1: one December I go to the club and it's like
Speaker 1: you know before before I left in the club or
Speaker 1: on the radio in Nigeria, they played with mostly American.
Speaker 3: Music, like what was popping in Nigeria when I left school.
Speaker 3: It's like fifty. Of course I love him.
Speaker 2: I just like the world loves fifty. Fifty is just
Speaker 2: like anywhere in the world. Yeah, usher, you know that's
Speaker 2: like confessions.
Speaker 1: Nearly you know this then, but you know, I fact,
Speaker 1: I you know, noticed that when I got back after
Speaker 1: I think I went was like two years away and
Speaker 1: I came back with Christmas and it's like, Yo, it's.
Speaker 3: All African music now, blah blah, it's different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in the club and I'm seeing like the
Speaker 1: artists blowing up, the girls going crazy.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, yo, this is about to be something.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Right, Were you already making that kind of music in
Speaker 2: your dorm them or was trying to rap or what
Speaker 2: were you doing?
Speaker 1: Na?
Speaker 3: You know, I actually started as an engineer, Okay, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So you were just learning your way around here.
Speaker 1: I used to record, like my cousins, gotcha, you know,
Speaker 1: stuff like good to Atlanta record them. So actually started
Speaker 1: as an engineer. So it was really like R and
Speaker 1: B is kind of music, right, African music sometimes. But
Speaker 1: then when I after that trip changed it changed it.
Speaker 1: So when I got back, it was just African music.
Speaker 1: Like after that trip, I decided, That's when I decided,
Speaker 1: like I want to be a African musician. So the
Speaker 1: biggest artists at that time, his name was debanch right,
Speaker 1: So anytime like night John, say, anytime they're coming to Atlanta,
Speaker 1: they would always call me up. You know, I hooked
Speaker 1: them up give them some right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So you're with a plug. Yeah, and I was like,
Speaker 2: fifteen fifteen, you're selling weed in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: No, I was just selling we do.
Speaker 2: I knew where to get it, you know where to
Speaker 2: get it, of course, Yeah, and you were, you were
Speaker 2: the middleman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew had to get it, so you know
Speaker 3: from there, you know what I'm saying. They came.
Speaker 1: So one trip, one of the biggest artists at that
Speaker 1: time came to Atlanta. I took them out, you know,
Speaker 1: got them hotels, took them.
Speaker 2: To the strip club, which one oh damn.
Speaker 3: Some strip club on the South Side. It's called Club Walks.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's old so not Magic City.
Speaker 3: Not non Magic City.
Speaker 1: So I took them to that club box and Yo,
Speaker 1: they changed like twenty thousand in once. But that was
Speaker 1: like the most one that I'd seen at that time.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, Y know these guys that really gets
Speaker 1: in it. So at that point I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I'm going back to school.
Speaker 3: I want to.
Speaker 2: I want to. I see that you can make some
Speaker 2: real money off.
Speaker 3: And then from then I was like, Yo, this is
Speaker 3: one I want to do because like.
Speaker 2: It's got to be kind of hard because you probably
Speaker 2: were like also semi influenced by a lot of what
Speaker 2: was going on in Atlanta, and like it's kind of
Speaker 2: hard to like see outside of what's happening right in
Speaker 2: front of you. So for you to go back home
Speaker 2: during the summer and be like, oh no, there's this
Speaker 2: whole other yeah thing going on, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like there's a whole there's another world outside.
Speaker 3: Of the US, yeah, And I'm like, I don't want
Speaker 3: to miss this, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's when I started getting involved in doing me
Speaker 1: like a forgot music production, facing it the food week.
Speaker 1: It wasn't even affecting my academics, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: What'd you drop out?
Speaker 3: After like two years dropped out?
Speaker 2: Parents were happier. They didn't know.
Speaker 3: They thought they even know I was dropped up, so
Speaker 3: they thought that was in school. Yeah for a year,
Speaker 3: you're like school's good sending them fake grades on that.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But it was the first convo where you like let
Speaker 2: them know, like it was never a combo. Oh okay,
Speaker 2: they just like saw you on tv DA.
Speaker 1: So you know, he was calling my phone and at
Speaker 1: this point, I've gone back to America, but I was
Speaker 1: planning to go back to Nigeria to stop my music
Speaker 1: career because like I had met people already and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So my sister hit me up on Facebook.
Speaker 1: She's like, I think my dad was like trying to
Speaker 1: call my phone. Then he called the school like trying
Speaker 1: to reach me, and then like, oh, so David hasn't
Speaker 1: hasn't been a road here for the past year. He's
Speaker 1: like what what did My sister will never forget that message.
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Speaker 3: been in school. My stomach, Oh fucking function, your whole viralthing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, goy, he's he's not a doctor.
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Speaker 1: After that, and then my dad like, I like, I
Speaker 1: hit the seem disappointed to me, Like it could mess
Speaker 1: up my whole vibe for sure.
Speaker 3: So I was like, man, I'm not going home. I
Speaker 3: ain't even trying to hear all Like where do I
Speaker 3: start from?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like where do I start from? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: So I was like, man, I got to blow up
Speaker 1: that's the only way he's good to forgive me.
Speaker 2: So did you wait to like really?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would tellt so no, no, he well
Speaker 1: kind of, I was like about to blow up, and
Speaker 1: then he kind of caught me kind of because I ran.
Speaker 1: I kind of dipped, So he was looking for me
Speaker 1: for months, and I was like, you're just on the
Speaker 1: run from your sixteen I was like sixteen at this time.
Speaker 2: Sixteen on the run. Not on the run, but you know,
Speaker 2: you're on the run from from your pop. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: And then I went to London for like six months
Speaker 3: and then my friend had the studio his house.
Speaker 2: You're sixteen at the time, yeah, sixteen. You kind of
Speaker 2: ran away, low Ki.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was in my friend's house recording, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. He had a studio in London.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I recorded like ten songs, right, so I
Speaker 1: had him with me, you know what I'm saying. At
Speaker 1: least I have content from whenever I'm ready to drop.
Speaker 1: So after being in London for like, it's me and
Speaker 1: my cousin be ready that we both ran away. So
Speaker 1: it's like, after being.
Speaker 2: In on him for like six months, you got a
Speaker 2: fake idea at the time, Nah that I wasn't even
Speaker 2: going to no.
Speaker 3: Club or I was just in my friend's house. But
Speaker 3: you know I had American passport.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I just you know what I'm saying, just
Speaker 1: good money wherever you're at, come on anywhere. So after
Speaker 1: like six months, I was like, yo, I had the
Speaker 1: ten songs. I saved up a little paper. I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm going to Nigeria, you know, to start, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Get on the plane land and then
Speaker 1: like my dad.
Speaker 3: Like caught me. Oh shit.
Speaker 2: As soon as I got off the plane, he was
Speaker 2: waiting for you in Nigeria.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the immigration he's living Nigeria, like the army gration
Speaker 1: people just grabbed me off the plane and took me
Speaker 1: straight to him.
Speaker 3: I'm shoot, like, boy, I got an eye Pierson lip pressing.
Speaker 2: He's not fucking with you.
Speaker 3: She's looking me crazy.
Speaker 2: It's like what happened to my son.
Speaker 1: So we get in the car and I against he
Speaker 1: hugged me by He's like you brother. I was like, man, daddy,
Speaker 1: I do want to hear.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to do music. Do you understand I
Speaker 3: don't need anything from you.
Speaker 1: Then we get home and the whole time I ran away,
Speaker 1: my dad like cut everybody off, like he the hancho.
Speaker 3: He take care of everybody. So he's like, go out
Speaker 3: get my song now. Nobody. Everybody message me like, boy,
Speaker 3: you better come back home. I'm hungry.
Speaker 2: You got fucked up out here.
Speaker 1: Everybody caught everybody off like that was like my aunties
Speaker 1: and your dad sounds like a g in mafia. I go,
Speaker 1: I get back home and then I have my ten songs,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm just like your
Speaker 1: house to do music. So I'm telling my siblings and
Speaker 1: then my dad was just like, look, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You could you could have just came and
Speaker 1: told me. You know what I'm saying, Like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is really what you want to do. I was like that,
Speaker 1: I told you like ten times.
Speaker 2: Nah. School.
Speaker 3: So he tried it up like cutting the deal. It
Speaker 3: was like he was with him.
Speaker 1: So he's like, so you gotta go to school. I said, okay,
Speaker 1: but what's it for me? He said, Man, he built
Speaker 1: me a studio and give me some paper to start.
Speaker 3: Off my career.
Speaker 2: So helped out. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I had to go to school for like every
Speaker 1: two weeks. I had to be a school. Well he
Speaker 1: should be like four hours away.
Speaker 3: Oh ship, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: What was What was the song that changed your life?
Speaker 1: Probably my second single. It's called Domny Duo, right, So
Speaker 1: that's when like I left school. I was like because
Speaker 1: I was on because you're like, look it worked. The
Speaker 1: first single was all right, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but the second one I was in. So I was
Speaker 1: only allowed to go to the city every two weeks.
Speaker 1: So I'd be in school for like thirteen days four
Speaker 1: hours away. Yeah, thirteen days, and then on the fourth,
Speaker 1: fourteenth day, I can go to the city for just
Speaker 1: three days to do.
Speaker 3: Me trying to break your record stuff like that. So
Speaker 3: and I'm in school, my dad put me next to
Speaker 3: like the owner of the school, like I might even.
Speaker 2: Like he's a studio. He's like like, you got you.
Speaker 3: This is the door of the school owner. This is
Speaker 3: my room. So every day you go to work, knocking
Speaker 3: on the door like are you going to class? You know,
Speaker 3: stuff like that. But when I had that second record,
Speaker 3: my boy called me.
Speaker 1: He was in the city. He said, it's lip. I said,
Speaker 1: what you mean, say he was in the club last night.
Speaker 1: He played the record, everybody went. I said, are you sure,
Speaker 1: because if I leave this place, I'm fucked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought I forgets. So I made like a
Speaker 3: fake body in my room, like under the clubs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've done this.
Speaker 3: Yeah you put you know how to do you put people?
Speaker 2: You stuffed the jeans? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Overout this like that. He was called on the way
Speaker 1: to the four hours trip. He called him I phone, like,
Speaker 1: where are you?
Speaker 2: What is this?
Speaker 3: I said, Man, I'm out. So that night we got
Speaker 3: to the city and this this is like my first time.
Speaker 1: Scene like anything or any feeling type of any importance
Speaker 1: of my music.
Speaker 3: I walked in the club.
Speaker 2: Boy, they knew who you were.
Speaker 3: I was like I was, I was like, yo, so.
Speaker 1: Like and I was like, that's like I'm seventeen. So
Speaker 1: that record was like too big, Like it blew up
Speaker 1: the whole country, the whole Africa. Like it was like
Speaker 1: really like literally over night success crazy, you understand, Like
Speaker 1: we all confused, like like we're not even prepared for
Speaker 1: what came, you know what I'm saying. I'm like, oh damn,
Speaker 1: now I got a pr publicist, I gotta get a
Speaker 1: tour manager.
Speaker 3: I gotta get you know what I'm saying this that
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And from there it was just on what's the clubs like?
Speaker 2: Because I've heard that the clubs in Nigeria are crazy wow,
Speaker 2: but like you've been to both the Atlanta side and
Speaker 2: so for you like, yeah, I was about to say
Speaker 2: that's the one thing about here. It's like you know,
Speaker 2: at bottles and they stare at each.
Speaker 3: Other when I downcing switson to like ten am.
Speaker 1: Just everyone's dancing, happy, smiling, crazy bottles everything.
Speaker 2: What about are the strip clubs in Nigeria? Yeah? What
Speaker 2: are the strip club vibes like compared to just like
Speaker 2: just like same thing.
Speaker 3: And funny enough, a lot of like dancers fly from America.
Speaker 2: To dance out there, to go dance out there.
Speaker 3: Oh there's fire.
Speaker 2: Uh so you got the new project out timeless? Uh?
Speaker 2: For people who don't know, man, are you very like
Speaker 2: aware of like your place in like Afrobeat's history. When
Speaker 2: people bring up the Big Three, I think it's like
Speaker 2: you whiz Kid and burna Boy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely know, like definitely away especially like do you
Speaker 1: have some once you remember when I told you that
Speaker 1: I was like an out, I was on out that
Speaker 1: I'm looking in when I went for December and I
Speaker 1: saw that, you know, in the artist everybody was like
Speaker 1: in one section and I'm just looking like I gotta
Speaker 1: get into this. I gotta get in the mix. But
Speaker 1: I also like came with like a vision. Do you understand?
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's what helped me solidify my
Speaker 1: place in afrobeats.
Speaker 3: Came with the vision, I knew what I wanted. Do
Speaker 3: you understand?
Speaker 1: I'm a producer as well, so with the production, I
Speaker 1: already knew how I want everything to sound.
Speaker 3: Do you understand?
Speaker 1: And from there and then you know, shout out to
Speaker 1: my pops. You know what I'm saying, he shot my
Speaker 1: first video.
Speaker 2: Your dad shot your first video. Paid for it. I
Speaker 2: was about to say, your dad is talented, he's got
Speaker 2: a doctorate, he's out here shooting videos.
Speaker 3: And so he shot my first video.
Speaker 1: So you know, from then I kind of like, you know, God,
Speaker 1: you know, okay, you know, continue the journey and you know,
Speaker 1: coming out here it was very puzzling for me. So
Speaker 1: came out here, and you know, especially for one when
Speaker 1: I did my first tour, I used to live in America.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was very futile for me to figure out.
Speaker 3: I know that what gets to be listening? How do
Speaker 3: we do?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it's already popping in
Speaker 1: the clubs, and then before you know it, a major
Speaker 1: label hit me up, Boom Sony. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And this is I've been doing music already for like
Speaker 1: seven years, right, you know what I'm saying. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about we like we like sixty records in at this time. Wow,
Speaker 1: sixty records in. But the old records is just start
Speaker 1: to catch, starting to catch. Yes, I feel like that's
Speaker 1: what it's been happening with a lot of It was
Speaker 1: very difficult for us, you know, artists, because we're so
Speaker 1: we're so comfortable already, you know what I'm saying. At
Speaker 1: that time, I was already making at least one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty two hundred thousand dollars a show, and then
Speaker 1: we have like that's death and then we already setting
Speaker 1: out stadiums, you know what I'm saying, thousand people, and
Speaker 1: then you know there's the all that syde of things.
Speaker 1: But you want to move music to the culture to
Speaker 1: push you come out here and the money they're saying, No,
Speaker 1: definitely no. Nowadays it is now. Yeah, but like back then,
Speaker 1: like you got kind of stop from scratch again. Definitely
Speaker 1: not like my first show. My first show I think
Speaker 1: was New York was like Urban Plaza, I think something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: It was like a thousand people I'm used to doing
Speaker 2: like fifty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there.
Speaker 1: But you know that's how, you know, spreading the music,
Speaker 1: waking up for interviews, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: doing promo. So you know, when the major labels got
Speaker 1: involved in Aprobets, I felt like we had the music,
Speaker 1: but we didn't have the structure.
Speaker 3: Right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Now, you know there's a little bit of structure all
Speaker 1: the labels right now in Nigeria, do you understand?
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I know, like a shots, I got Gazi,
Speaker 2: I think Empires doing a lot, yeah, a lot of artists, Sony,
Speaker 2: a lot of artist under Sonya.
Speaker 3: As well too.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Who would you kind of consider to be
Speaker 2: like Eurog's in this ship because I feel like we
Speaker 2: always hear about you burna Boy and whiz K, but
Speaker 2: there's a whole generation of guy's prior to you guys
Speaker 2: that kind of let the groundwork.
Speaker 1: I think definitely the bunch you know, that's one of
Speaker 1: the artists I saw. I told you du Bane Too Face.
Speaker 1: So the Big three then was the Bane Tooth Face
Speaker 1: and it's a group it's twins called p Square, So
Speaker 1: that was those were like r ogs, you know. Then
Speaker 1: those are the people that made me say it's possible
Speaker 1: doing this. Yeah, I'm doing this.
Speaker 2: You also have kind of became one of like the
Speaker 2: main guys that like hip hop artists will tap into
Speaker 2: if they universe or the hook. I mean you guys
Speaker 2: like fabulous and go on and on. Who are some
Speaker 2: of the well, first of all, being as a guy
Speaker 2: who went to college here, was born in Atlanta, has
Speaker 2: there been a hip hop artist you've worked with where
Speaker 2: you were like, damn, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: I got a record with this guy like this. Definitely,
Speaker 3: definitely it should be.
Speaker 1: Oh I think, well, I mean I have a lot
Speaker 1: of you know, records I didn't have with me, but
Speaker 1: one of the records I was like, yo, it was
Speaker 1: Nobs when I got that NOAs versus and Hip Boys
Speaker 1: video like those one of the moments because my brother.
Speaker 2: You guys met him a head boy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just came in the room.
Speaker 1: Was not what he was like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, like he likes African.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, thank you, thank you, thank you
Speaker 1: what you're working on and he just laid the verse
Speaker 1: and me and my boys just looking because that was
Speaker 1: special to me because my oldest brother Nick, he was
Speaker 1: a big nos fun like that Illmatic album still Man,
Speaker 1: still Madic of course the album when he was young.
Speaker 2: His face right there, it's behind that box.
Speaker 3: Oh that's crazy. So that was like crazy to me.
Speaker 1: And then obviously like with Thug, you know baby, oh
Speaker 1: that was real dope, and know we connect the vibe.
Speaker 2: You know, you ended up connecting and like really vibing
Speaker 2: with Doug.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh like not even on music tip. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Thug is, Thug is a great guy.
Speaker 1: Man actually met a Little Baby through Thug before Little
Speaker 1: Baby even dropped a record.
Speaker 2: Oh really back in the day, people don't understand like
Speaker 2: young Thug and Gucci are like two of the best
Speaker 2: an rs ever. They just always have like just talent
Speaker 2: around them.
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Speaker 2: that's got. What was it when you guys worked together?
Speaker 2: Did he record the verse with you there?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Because I heard his process is pretty crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he thug duty, But baby, I said, I said, baby,
Speaker 3: just all.
Speaker 2: Because like this Doug going right now and down right.
Speaker 2: It's just does he lay the he lays He lays
Speaker 2: the melody first and then punches in.
Speaker 1: Or then go back, punch in, go back, through the melody.
Speaker 1: Then you know, you get the words that you recorded.
Speaker 1: You know, I kind of record the same way too.
Speaker 2: So you're you're kind of similar with Joe, like melody
Speaker 2: down and then feeling the lyrics melody and then feeling
Speaker 2: the lyrics. Yeah, you used to be an engineer. Yeah,
Speaker 2: which way do you prefer to record an artist? Because
Speaker 2: I do know some engineers to get frustrated. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: touch me in back back back back, No right there.
Speaker 1: To me and pu me in think about me. You
Speaker 1: gotta be quick because I get anxiety when you know.
Speaker 2: When if you have an engineer recording you, they got
Speaker 2: to be fast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to be very very quick.
Speaker 1: And I don't sleep, So it's like you gotta be quick, quick, quick,
Speaker 1: because you know the way you want to, you know,
Speaker 1: lay down an idea. You know, first of all, you
Speaker 1: don't want to lose it, right because sometimes it never
Speaker 1: comes back, you know what I'm saying. So I like
Speaker 1: to be kind of quick.
Speaker 2: Yeah for you. How much how much like of your
Speaker 2: own production are you doing these days?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: None?
Speaker 1: Yeah recently, but with this last album, I like I
Speaker 1: supervisor production what I'm said, But I'm as hands on
Speaker 1: us you know, I.
Speaker 2: Was, you know, years back, what it's like for you
Speaker 2: give me two or three artists that are on the
Speaker 2: come up right now that we should be checking out
Speaker 2: in the States.
Speaker 1: African African h I was talking about they big lad
Speaker 1: see what he's here on the come up?
Speaker 2: Maybe here here, definitely.
Speaker 3: He's he's hot right now going crazy.
Speaker 2: Rema Rama's got a smash number the highest, yeah, the
Speaker 2: highest ever number one song right now. It's Rhythm radio
Speaker 2: in Selina.
Speaker 3: It's crazy care Redma bou Ju.
Speaker 2: I've heard. I've heard of Rama, who's on the remix
Speaker 2: of that song.
Speaker 3: Boojus.
Speaker 1: You know, at least kih kids down here. A lot
Speaker 1: of people, man, I can I can name one hundred females.
Speaker 1: You know, we got Thames, we got Iron Star Savage,
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're doing great.
Speaker 2: Do you ever like see American artists trying to do
Speaker 2: what you guys do and it comes I've seen a
Speaker 2: lot of guys do it and it's very corny. But
Speaker 2: do you ever like feel like like it's a little
Speaker 2: kind of appropriating like y'all's vibe, because it does feel
Speaker 2: like I've seen I mean, I don't want to say names.
Speaker 2: There's been a few guys with like just blatantly just
Speaker 2: I mean, like they don't care about the culture, and
Speaker 2: it's like, this is the sound, let me make the song,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like offended by it, like because I'm
Speaker 1: from both worlds, right, But it'd be like kind of
Speaker 1: weird when when we have like a session and like
Speaker 1: and they come and they're like, yo, can you make
Speaker 1: it sound like that? I'm like, what you talking about? Like,
Speaker 1: can you make it sound like this? Okay, you you've
Speaker 1: had that happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, plenty of times.
Speaker 2: Do you like cool loo guy to the side, They're like,
Speaker 2: hey man, you got to a little appreciate what we're
Speaker 2: doing here a little bit. Let's say some microwavableshit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And then I'm just happy, like the night not even
Speaker 2: take it's changing.
Speaker 1: And I've been in the studio, I've worked with so
Speaker 1: many people and then and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like before it was like a thing to have like
Speaker 1: American artists on your record, it'd.
Speaker 2: Be like a big deal, a big deal. Now it's
Speaker 2: kind of for it.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't mention names, but you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you can be in the studio vibing out with somebody,
Speaker 1: somebody do it verse the next day they send.
Speaker 3: You papers and boys, we're boys that you know in
Speaker 3: the video, you gotta do that too, and you feel.
Speaker 2: Like it's the other way around.
Speaker 3: Now, what's up? I'm charging now? Yeah, what you need,
Speaker 3: I'm charging now.
Speaker 2: I'm saying my lawyers, what's the feature costing? Right now?
Speaker 3: It's timeless, six figures hundred hundred.
Speaker 2: If I know you, If I know you, that's the price.
Speaker 3: If I know your hundred and that's not bad. And
Speaker 3: then the video and then.
Speaker 2: The video costs. That's one thing, you know, Like there's
Speaker 2: a few guys who like I feel like, to.
Speaker 1: Be honest, if I know that, if you do a
Speaker 1: record and I know that you're gonna push it to
Speaker 1: the fullest, to the fullest, and you're an artist that
Speaker 1: I enjoy.
Speaker 2: Like you're a fan of somebody.
Speaker 1: I'm a fan like me and Chris be time we
Speaker 1: get in the studio, like, I'm happy, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Because Chris is doing a video with you,
Speaker 1: Chris is bring you out on tour.
Speaker 2: Chris is thinking of ideas, and he's also like our
Speaker 2: our Michael Jackson. Yes, like I think Chris Brown's like
Speaker 2: he's an alien for you, because I do. I do
Speaker 2: feel like there has been a few artists who have
Speaker 2: kind of like embraced Like I know when Castanova Free
Speaker 2: Castanova came with to Nightgery video felt like he just died.
Speaker 3: Little Baby cames out. He stayed in my house when
Speaker 3: he came to a little Baby Baby was at the crib.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, as the Migos came out there a
Speaker 1: lot of people come out there for shows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious, like is the breaking in an artist process?
Speaker 2: How much different is it than here? Because here it's
Speaker 2: like obviously there's TikTok now, but you know, traditionally in
Speaker 2: hip hop you would want to maybe catch a wave
Speaker 2: in a strip club first, or you know there might
Speaker 2: be no from.
Speaker 1: Like my generation on me was like that's really like
Speaker 1: putting out like a thousand CDs go around and club.
Speaker 3: But now, like, shit is different.
Speaker 1: You can be sitting somewhere in the village, you drop
Speaker 1: a record once one thing goes viral and you you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So stuff is different now, Like
Speaker 1: even when we're in the studio, now we're thinking like
Speaker 1: how can we make a challenge to this song.
Speaker 2: Like how we get the ship popping on TikTok and
Speaker 2: then out there's Audio Max really big.
Speaker 1: I think Audio Mac Yeah, because you know it's easy
Speaker 1: to It's easier, it's like subscribe, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But recently started fy Nigeria. He comes to Night Gena
Speaker 1: and that's helped.
Speaker 3: A lot too.
Speaker 2: Who would you want to do a collab project with
Speaker 2: from the States? If you could do a collab album
Speaker 2: with anybody?
Speaker 1: Definitely Chris. That'd be crazy. Definitely Chris. Me and Chris
Speaker 1: got like ten songs like people ain't heard.
Speaker 2: Ten that are just on a hard drive. Yeah, have
Speaker 2: you guys talked about doing that? He did a thug album.
Speaker 1: Definitely, Definitely. I go to his house after here too.
Speaker 1: But yeah, me and Chris definitely, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was even meant to go on toll him.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. But we're gonna do a
Speaker 3: lot together. Who else?
Speaker 2: I do a record with Scissa, She's.
Speaker 3: Really really dope for Bad Bunny too.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: There is such a correlation between like reggaetone and afrobeats
Speaker 2: because one it's just great dancing music, and I feel
Speaker 2: like BPM wise like BPM wise, they match up so
Speaker 2: well if you're DJing in the club. Have you done
Speaker 2: like any shows with any like any like big reggaeton
Speaker 2: artists anywhere? No?
Speaker 1: Not really, but I had to showing Puerto Rico though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: crazy crazy. I remember on the flight down maxim Names,
Speaker 1: I was like, you sure it's going to be yo?
Speaker 2: What it was like?
Speaker 3: Twenty thousand people in Puerto Rico?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Puerto Rico.
Speaker 3: We've had Mexico reach out to. But I love performing
Speaker 3: in the islands.
Speaker 2: What's your favorite place to perform so far?
Speaker 1: So far?
Speaker 3: That was real dope, I'll say the Bahamas.
Speaker 2: The Bahamas. Do you ever go to that crazy resort
Speaker 2: they got there, the Atlantis resort that I obways see
Speaker 2: it on the line.
Speaker 3: We would like in and out, in and out records,
Speaker 3: in and out records.
Speaker 2: Well, look, man, the new album's out right now.
Speaker 3: Timeless, you know what I'm saying, going crazy?
Speaker 2: Anything else on the way.
Speaker 3: Definitely be going on tour in July. If you can't everywhere, Nah,
Speaker 3: we do. We spliting it up, so we do.
Speaker 2: I want to see I want to go to it.
Speaker 2: I want to go to a show that's not the
Speaker 2: United States. I want to go to like, so come
Speaker 2: to come to Nigeria. I gotta go to Nigeria. Puerto Rico, Rob,
Speaker 2: are we going to Nigeria.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get to December, December, December, let's go.
Speaker 1: So the best time to come definitely, you know in December,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. She also visit Ghana too,
Speaker 1: and I.
Speaker 2: Heard Ghana is amazing.
Speaker 3: So Nigeria is like New York and Ghana is like
Speaker 3: La Like okay, calmer.
Speaker 2: So Nigeria is like fast paced, bro, you gotta.
Speaker 1: Be shopped if you can't, so wife, in Nigeria, you
Speaker 1: con sof anywhere.
Speaker 2: Ghana is more relaxed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, kickback, you want to.
Speaker 2: Don't kick back too much in La though, they'll rob
Speaker 2: your ass out, I know, do you guys? Listen? Dude,
Speaker 2: Africans claim Elon Musk because he is South African. I'm
Speaker 2: just wondering, is it he's from Yeah, but.
Speaker 3: That's crazy. He's got like kind of like South Africa.
Speaker 1: I love you know Caucasians are down there, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because you know they stayed after It's dope.
Speaker 1: South Africa southever it looks like la It's like beautiful, Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't it like very still kind of like separated
Speaker 2: and like a lot of the social issues. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: there's some yeah everywhere, some Jim Crow type ship there.
Speaker 1: They're like two languages. I know, there's like a one
Speaker 1: language called Afrikaans, and like it's weird, like I think,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's not one hundred percent, but I
Speaker 1: think like the black people don't speak that.
Speaker 2: That's wow. Man, Well listen, I appreciate you pulling up.
Speaker 2: You're definitely a legend.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: There's dope to have you here. A new album out, new.
Speaker 1: Album out, Timeless the Way tour on the way. I
Speaker 1: got a festival in Atlanta in November. Oh ship, Yes,
Speaker 1: I plan to do it yearly. It's called a wavefest.
Speaker 1: Who else before I'm trying to bring okay, you bring everybody, everybody.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to bring everybody through and have like our
Speaker 1: own coach.
Speaker 3: We can do every year.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just saw there's a big afrobeats festival I.
Speaker 3: Think is Miami. The next one is Miami.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what's up. I appreciate you. Yeah, affirmation my brother.
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Speaker 2: to Harden, or you're playing yourself for real.