WEBVTT - #321 - Davido 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.720 Yo, what up my people, it's your boy David Oh. 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:04.080 And you can catch me live under the Bootleg cav 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:05.280 podcast Keep in Luck. 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:12.639 One look, Bootleg CAV show. We got a special guest. 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:16.200 A legend is in here, man, David Oh. Welcome, sir. 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:18.800 Well he said it perfect, did I? 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:22.160 Yeah, there's people usually fucking up. I'm not gonna lie. 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:24.040 I was a little confused, like like early on, I 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:24.920 was like, is it David Oh? 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:25.320 Is it? 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:27.760 Yeah? It's David Oh. 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:30.120 Yeah, Okay, thank you, big fan of your show. 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:32.440 Appreciate it, man, thank you for having You're obviously a legend. 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:32.559 Man. 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:34.360 I think when we think of like afrobeach, you're kind 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:36.199 of like the jay Z of the shit Lokey, you know, 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:39.120 crazy It's good. Yeah. What's it like to kind of 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:42.599 see your sound that you've been doing for all these 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:45.519 years become like the sound now. 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:48.360 You know, Like you know, I was born in Atlanta, 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:49.240 you know what I'm saying. 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:51.960 Okay, I've always been like coming to America, but like 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:55.200 when I became a musician, especially like coming out here 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:58.200 you know for shows trying to push the music. It 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.800 really don't started with like just like African fans coming 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:03.920 to the shows, right, you know when we do shows 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:06.800 out here, and then he started just you know, spreading. 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:09.600 You know, like even when I was in college and 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:11.600 I used to play my friends African music and they 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.479 liked to college in Alabama. Okay, you know what I'm saying, 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:15.400 which which cool. 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:16.800 It's called Oakwood University. 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.479 It's something that he was raised in the South. Low 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:21.800 key yeah, yeah. 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:24.160 Yeah, fully, you know what I'm saying. So even when 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:26.000 I used to play African songs for them, I knew 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:27.920 that they liked it. So I always knew it was 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:31.360 always if there was an opportunity to be heard, you know, people, 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:32.400 you know, fuck with it? 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:35.960 What's it like? Because I feel like I don't. I 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:37.640 didn't know that about you, that you were kind of 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:40.120 you from Atlanta and you were you went to college 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.880 in Alabama. Yeah, that's like the Bible Belt for. 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:46.840 Real, crazy Huntsville, Alabama, Huntsville Young. I was like sixty 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.640 years old in college. You know, hey, we see you 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:52.640 and that's coming like straight from Legos, right, you know, 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.160 straight there. And I remember even just being in college 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:01.600 and talking to like friends there like household, how is 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:02.240 it in Nigeria? 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.520 Like how did you get here y'all got airports. 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:06.080 You know what I'm saying, Because there were no Edue 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.359 kids that about this, about what's going on here. But 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:10.680 now you know what I'm saying, You have social media, 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:13.800 so it's different. They see a different side of Africa 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:15.720 when you when you tell people that, oh, I'm night Jeri, 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:19.440 you're like, oh, I love afrobeats. For me, like fifteen 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.560 years ago, that was not the story, you know what 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:22.799 was like for you? 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:24.800 Like can you can you kind of pinpoint in your 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:28.720 opinion as somebody who you know obviously has a crab 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:30.320 out here and went to school out here and was 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:33.120 born here. Can you kind of pinpoint the moment that 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:37.239 you noticed like America starting to kind of take a 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:38.840 liking to the genre. 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:44.240 Definitely to me from my experience, it started like from Atlanta, 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:48.679 two cities, Atlanta, New York or mainly Atlanta, and just 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:51.079 like even going out, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:54.600 like one thing I knew one of my friends used 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:56.280 to do. He used to he was a big baller. 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:59.320 He would go to the club and he like spends 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.640 so much money. But he tell them every time, YO, 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:03.760 when you bring my bottles out, I want to hear 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:07.040 this song, right, you know what I'm saying. So the 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.919 DJ is playing it, you know what I'm saying, the 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:12.079 bottles coming out to the song, you know, and the 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:15.160 DJ is liking the music. And then that's that was 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.919 like one of my first experiences of like being in 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:21.239 the club and hearing it. Friend, yeah, and then you know, 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:23.880 start growing. You know, once the girls like it. 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:25.720 Once the girls like it, it's over. 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:26.880 It's over, you know what I'm saying. 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:31.840 So even like girls being in the coby with the guy, Okay, 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:35.160 you play some afro beats because you know, girls like. 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:36.360 It, you know, let's do it. 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:38.640 It obviously became because it was like a big big 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:40.800 thing in the UK first, right, you know, it was from. 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:42.360 The UK before you go to America. 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:44.760 You know, UK was like the first place to I 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.760 know that apro beats, Like we start doing arenas in. 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:49.960 The UK first, crazy, you know what I'm saying. 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:54.640 Afrobeats. UK actually named it Afrobeats, so that's like a 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.640 UK It's like k turn. But then you know, we 0:03:57.760 --> 0:03:58.840 just ran with it, you know what I mean. 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:02.360 That's fire man. What how much can you attribute to 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:06.680 Drake embracing it to kind of it being like easily 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:08.320 bridge to the US because I feel like once Drake 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.680 gets behind anything, for the most part, it can it 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:11.560 can really take off. 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:15.040 I mean there's this there's always Niratis like, oh, you 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:18.040 know what I'm saying. Afrobeats was was definitely you know 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:20.320 what I'm saying huge, It was huge because if it 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:21.320 wasn't he was Drake Drake. 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:22.800 When it was he was like. 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.360 Before Drake, but you know, Drake is Drake. You know 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:27.720 what I'm saying. So i'd be lying if I see 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:29.719 you know what I'm saying. He didn't put some spotlight 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:33.000 to you know, afrobeats. You know what I'm saying. And 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.400 you know it was dope. He's made some dope you 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:36.039 know records. 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:41.440 Yo. What there's this like new trend where there's the 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.320 normal version of a song and then the sped up version. 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:45.640 Back in the day, I mean you're from the South, 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.320 you know, there was this chopping screwed ship, the screwed 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.360 up ship back in the day to Texas. But now 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.599 I feel like every single there's like the normal version 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:55.119 and then they got to sped That's crazy. 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.560 Said that because I released the album was out, so 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:59.880 we released a couple of songs and we released the 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:01.799 single again with a sped. 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:02.920 Up Yeah, there's a sped up version. 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.600 Yah's crazy, you know what I'm saying. I don't know 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.120 some songs I don't even know, Like some songs. 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.240 I see on like TikTok and stuff, you don't even 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:11.000 know the normal version. 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:12.919 Yeah, I'll be thinking that's that's the original when they 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:16.200 When I hear, I'm like, oh, okay, it makes sense now. 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:19.200 I mean. Social media is crazy though, Like it's a 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:19.920 different avenue. 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:23.479 When I started music, we used to talk about radio 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:28.400 and you know not Now it's like podcast. If you're 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.400 promoted me before, just putt on like YouTube or Facebook. 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.320 Right now you got like twenty apps. Yeah, you know, 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:35.600 you gotta do your promo. 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:37.640 I know, I keep hoping that TikTok is banned so 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.040 I don't have to worry about it anymore. It's like 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.200 one least day last day. I'm like, if TikTok is banned, 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:43.640 it just takes one more thing I don't have to 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:44.320 worry about away. 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.200 Yeah, it's going crazy, Like, yeah, are. 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:48.120 You pretty big on TikTok. 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.360 I mean, I got a lot of followers, but I'm like, are. 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.120 You like on the app? Scrolling and like get diving 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:56.320 into the algorithm. Nah nah, because you hit a sucky 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:57.080 in bro yo. 0:05:57.279 --> 0:05:58.880 And every time I get on TikTok, I'll be there 0:05:58.920 --> 0:05:59.760 for like two hours. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.719 Yeah, because whatever you're into, it knows different and everything's 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.640 all because I just love like dogs and food, so 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:08.600 it just shows me puppy puppies and food. 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.120 I think it's crazy how it can tell what you like, 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.360 just like being on the app. After like a week, 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:15.039 he's like me, I like food. 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.080 Those you're just like guys who like cooking a minute 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:22.280 and like got to cook outside. Oh yeah, I love 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.160 that ship. And then I just bought a grill, like 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:28.000 a griddle, like a little griddler thing outside, So I'm like, 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.240 I'm always trying to find like ship to do on 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:30.560 the grill. 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:38.799 The guy that throws the butter butter bait, yeah, his food. 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.280 You ever see the uh the guy who does the 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:47.680 shark bite at the restaurants Big Groove, I think them too. 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.200 He might actually I interviewed him. 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:51.600 I think he might be. 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:56.040 The guy's just a massive human being and he does 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.400 very tight close. You gotta get him to do to 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:04.240 do a dance to yourself, how give me kind of 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.240 like your come up, because if you're in the States, 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.280 you're going to college here, how did how do you 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.440 end up popping off? You go back home? 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:16.120 Yeah, you know, just being in Alabama for like before 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:19.320 I go to college. Obviously I didn't liking to music. 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.160 Of course, we obviously, like you know, my father was 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.440 just olemans about me going to school. 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:24.880 Right. 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:29.120 You know, I'm first generation that Titana in my family. 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.400 You know, so it's a little harder to convince your. 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.440 Everybody's business business business, like hey I want to do this, 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:35.920 and they're like, was it normal template? 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:37.480 Now you know what I'm saying. You go to school 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:39.800 and then you go out and work for the family business. 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:43.200 And I'm the last kid of five, so it was 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.280 already I was not even thinking about, you know, convincing 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:50.720 anybody or so, you know, just being in school and awkward. 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:54.320 Apart from me, it's a church. It's a Christian school, 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.560 so apart from even like going to church, the choirs 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.720 or there are lots of like musicians around the school. 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.600 So the dude that lived like that stayed like on 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:06.120 top of me in the dorm. He was like goo sposing. 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.840 Guy's name is Jamo. So I always used to hear 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:11.920 like music, music like, but I never went to check. 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:13.480 So one day I guess said, let me go check. 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.200 So I went to check and knock the door and 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:19.920 then he opens his room and it's a whole studio setup. 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:20.960 Like in the dorm. 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.080 So i'ing like that was just recording himself. So like 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.760 that was like my first time like seeing like a 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:28.200 laptop in the studio equipment. 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:30.200 So I was like, Yo, how much is all this? 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:30.720 And he told me. 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:32.440 I was like, yo, want to buy it? Just teach 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:34.920 me the way around it. So he was he was 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:39.120 teaching me. And I also like learned off YouTube, like 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:40.400 how to make some YouTube. 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:44.599 University. Man, you can learn anything on YouTube. So what 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:48.280 was your first interface? Was it like U M audio, 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.760 the little M box plug. 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:56.120 And play USB and then I had the it was 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:57.920 It wasn't pro tools, it was logic. 0:08:58.240 --> 0:08:59.960 Logic. Yeah, a lot of people learn on logic. 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.520 So from that I just started recording myself, recording myself. 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:03.080 But mind you. 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.199 You know, like I said, it's school, you know what 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:12.559 I'm saying. So I'd go home every December Christmas. So 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.640 one December I go to the club and it's like 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.679 you know before before I left in the club or 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:24.280 on the radio in Nigeria, they played with mostly American. 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:28.079 Music, like what was popping in Nigeria when I left school. 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.319 It's like fifty. Of course I love him. 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:34.400 I just like the world loves fifty. Fifty is just 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:38.360 like anywhere in the world. Yeah, usher, you know that's 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:39.720 like confessions. 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:43.360 Nearly you know this then, but you know, I fact, 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:46.160 I you know, noticed that when I got back after 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:47.920 I think I went was like two years away and 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.520 I came back with Christmas and it's like, Yo, it's. 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:52.800 All African music now, blah blah, it's different. 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:55.040 Yeah, I'm in the club and I'm seeing like the 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.319 artists blowing up, the girls going crazy. 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.960 So I'm like, yo, this is about to be something. 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:00.760 You know what I'm saying. 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.120 Right, Were you already making that kind of music in 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.480 your dorm them or was trying to rap or what 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:05.960 were you doing? 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:06.320 Na? 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:08.839 You know, I actually started as an engineer, Okay, you 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:09.440 know what I'm saying. 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:11.120 So you were just learning your way around here. 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.120 I used to record, like my cousins, gotcha, you know, 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.520 stuff like good to Atlanta record them. So actually started 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:20.360 as an engineer. So it was really like R and 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.959 B is kind of music, right, African music sometimes. But 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.559 then when I after that trip changed it changed it. 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.600 So when I got back, it was just African music. 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:32.120 Like after that trip, I decided, That's when I decided, 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:36.439 like I want to be a African musician. So the 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:40.400 biggest artists at that time, his name was debanch right, 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:45.440 So anytime like night John, say, anytime they're coming to Atlanta, 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:47.800 they would always call me up. You know, I hooked 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:50.080 them up give them some right, you know what I'm saying. 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:51.679 So you're with a plug. Yeah, and I was like, 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.920 fifteen fifteen, you're selling weed in Atlanta. 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:55.839 No, I was just selling we do. 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:58.559 I knew where to get it, you know where to 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:00.800 get it, of course, Yeah, and you were, you were 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:01.400 the middleman. 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:05.160 Yeah, I knew had to get it, so you know 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.200 from there, you know what I'm saying. They came. 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.559 So one trip, one of the biggest artists at that 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:15.000 time came to Atlanta. I took them out, you know, 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:18.160 got them hotels, took them. 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.880 To the strip club, which one oh damn. 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.480 Some strip club on the South Side. It's called Club Walks. 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.480 Okay, it's old so not Magic City. 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:28.360 Not non Magic City. 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:30.280 So I took them to that club box and Yo, 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:35.000 they changed like twenty thousand in once. But that was 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.120 like the most one that I'd seen at that time. 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.600 I'm like, what, Y know these guys that really gets 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:41.640 in it. So at that point I was like, Yo, 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:43.240 I'm going back to school. 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:43.559 I want to. 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:45.480 I want to. I see that you can make some 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:46.080 real money off. 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:48.599 And then from then I was like, Yo, this is 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:50.280 one I want to do because like. 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:51.880 It's got to be kind of hard because you probably 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.959 were like also semi influenced by a lot of what 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.679 was going on in Atlanta, and like it's kind of 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:01.199 hard to like see outside of what's happening right in 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.000 front of you. So for you to go back home 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.120 during the summer and be like, oh no, there's this 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.440 whole other yeah thing going on, you know what I'm saying, 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.080 Like there's a whole there's another world outside. 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:12.200 Of the US, yeah, And I'm like, I don't want 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:13.400 to miss this, you know what I'm saying. 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:17.400 So that's when I started getting involved in doing me 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.120 like a forgot music production, facing it the food week. 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.760 It wasn't even affecting my academics, you know what I'm saying. 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:24.079 What'd you drop out? 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:26.559 After like two years dropped out? 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:28.760 Parents were happier. They didn't know. 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:30.640 They thought they even know I was dropped up, so 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:32.440 they thought that was in school. Yeah for a year, 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.760 you're like school's good sending them fake grades on that. 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:36.960 You know what I'm saying. 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:40.160 But it was the first convo where you like let 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:43.240 them know, like it was never a combo. Oh okay, 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:44.720 they just like saw you on tv DA. 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.520 So you know, he was calling my phone and at 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:51.480 this point, I've gone back to America, but I was 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:53.920 planning to go back to Nigeria to stop my music 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.880 career because like I had met people already and stuff 0:12:56.880 --> 0:13:00.520 like that. So my sister hit me up on Facebook. 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:02.959 She's like, I think my dad was like trying to 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:06.000 call my phone. 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You know what I'm saying? 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.240 So I was like, man, I got to blow up 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:29.360 that's the only way he's good to forgive me. 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:31.960 So did you wait to like really? 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:36.560 Oh yeah, I would tellt so no, no, he well 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.560 kind of, I was like about to blow up, and 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.080 then he kind of caught me kind of because I ran. 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:42.880 I kind of dipped, So he was looking for me 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:44.800 for months, and I was like, you're just on the 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:48.080 run from your sixteen I was like sixteen at this time. 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.480 Sixteen on the run. Not on the run, but you know, 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:53.920 you're on the run from from your pop. Yeah, for sure. 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:55.840 And then I went to London for like six months 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:58.080 and then my friend had the studio his house. 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:01.600 You're sixteen at the time, yeah, sixteen. You kind of 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:02.480 ran away, low Ki. 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:07.200 Yeah, so I was in my friend's house recording, you 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.399 know what I'm saying. He had a studio in London. 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:13.639 Yeah, so I recorded like ten songs, right, so I 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:14.959 had him with me, you know what I'm saying. At 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:17.760 least I have content from whenever I'm ready to drop. 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.800 So after being in London for like, it's me and 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:25.320 my cousin be ready that we both ran away. So 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:26.720 it's like, after being. 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:27.879 In on him for like six months, you got a 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.080 fake idea at the time, Nah that I wasn't even 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:30.480 going to no. 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.800 Club or I was just in my friend's house. But 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:33.960 you know I had American passport. 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:35.560 Yeah, so I just you know what I'm saying, just 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.960 good money wherever you're at, come on anywhere. So after 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:40.800 like six months, I was like, yo, I had the 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.720 ten songs. I saved up a little paper. I was like, yo, 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:47.119 I'm going to Nigeria, you know, to start, you know 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:50.240 what I'm saying. Get on the plane land and then 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:50.919 like my dad. 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:53.840 Like caught me. Oh shit. 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:55.920 As soon as I got off the plane, he was 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:56.919 waiting for you in Nigeria. 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.240 Yeah, the immigration he's living Nigeria, like the army gration 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:03.159 people just grabbed me off the plane and took me 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:04.120 straight to him. 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:09.240 I'm shoot, like, boy, I got an eye Pierson lip pressing. 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:12.399 He's not fucking with you. 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:14.639 She's looking me crazy. 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:15.960 It's like what happened to my son. 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:17.960 So we get in the car and I against he 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.560 hugged me by He's like you brother. I was like, man, daddy, 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:22.159 I do want to hear. 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:24.359 I just wanted to do music. Do you understand I 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:25.320 don't need anything from you. 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.359 Then we get home and the whole time I ran away, 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:32.840 my dad like cut everybody off, like he the hancho. 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.520 He take care of everybody. So he's like, go out 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:41.440 get my song now. Nobody. Everybody message me like, boy, 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:43.040 you better come back home. I'm hungry. 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:44.359 You got fucked up out here. 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:48.800 Everybody caught everybody off like that was like my aunties 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:53.240 and your dad sounds like a g in mafia. I go, 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:56.399 I get back home and then I have my ten songs, 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.119 you know what I'm saying. So I'm just like your 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.639 house to do music. So I'm telling my siblings and 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:02.359 then my dad was just like, look, you know what 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:04.159 I'm saying. You could you could have just came and 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:06.200 told me. You know what I'm saying, Like, oh, this 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:08.080 is really what you want to do. I was like that, 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:09.280 I told you like ten times. 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:11.399 Nah. School. 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:15.159 So he tried it up like cutting the deal. It 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:18.000 was like he was with him. 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.960 So he's like, so you gotta go to school. I said, okay, 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:25.240 but what's it for me? He said, Man, he built 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:29.800 me a studio and give me some paper to start. 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:30.200 Off my career. 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:31.720 So helped out. Yeah. 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:34.080 So I had to go to school for like every 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.000 two weeks. I had to be a school. Well he 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:37.320 should be like four hours away. 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:39.480 Oh ship, you know what I'm saying. 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.359 What was What was the song that changed your life? 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:47.879 Probably my second single. It's called Domny Duo, right, So 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:51.040 that's when like I left school. I was like because 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:55.040 I was on because you're like, look it worked. The 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:58.280 first single was all right, you know what I'm saying, 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:00.680 but the second one I was in. So I was 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:02.680 only allowed to go to the city every two weeks. 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:05.720 So I'd be in school for like thirteen days four 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:08.480 hours away. Yeah, thirteen days, and then on the fourth, 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:10.800 fourteenth day, I can go to the city for just 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:12.199 three days to do. 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:16.080 Me trying to break your record stuff like that. So 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:18.000 and I'm in school, my dad put me next to 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:20.200 like the owner of the school, like I might even. 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:23.399 Like he's a studio. He's like like, you got you. 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:25.760 This is the door of the school owner. This is 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.040 my room. So every day you go to work, knocking 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:30.200 on the door like are you going to class? You know, 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:33.320 stuff like that. But when I had that second record, 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:34.000 my boy called me. 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:38.120 He was in the city. He said, it's lip. I said, 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:40.479 what you mean, say he was in the club last night. 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:43.520 He played the record, everybody went. I said, are you sure, 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:46.280 because if I leave this place, I'm fucked. 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:49.720 Yeah, I thought I forgets. So I made like a 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:52.639 fake body in my room, like under the clubs. 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:53.960 Yeah, I've done this. 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:56.600 Yeah you put you know how to do you put people? 0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:59.440 You stuffed the jeans? Yeah? 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:03.200 Overout this like that. He was called on the way 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:06.200 to the four hours trip. He called him I phone, like, 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:06.520 where are you? 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:07.399 What is this? 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:11.919 I said, Man, I'm out. So that night we got 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:16.640 to the city and this this is like my first time. 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:20.639 Scene like anything or any feeling type of any importance 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:22.040 of my music. 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:23.320 I walked in the club. 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:25.239 Boy, they knew who you were. 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:30.199 I was like I was, I was like, yo, so. 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:33.560 Like and I was like, that's like I'm seventeen. So 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:35.919 that record was like too big, Like it blew up 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:39.080 the whole country, the whole Africa. Like it was like 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:43.320 really like literally over night success crazy, you understand, Like 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:46.960 we all confused, like like we're not even prepared for 0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:49.359 what came, you know what I'm saying. I'm like, oh damn, 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:52.600 now I got a pr publicist, I gotta get a 0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:53.520 tour manager. 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:54.760 I gotta get you know what I'm saying this that 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:56.120 you know what I'm saying. 0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:59.240 And from there it was just on what's the clubs like? 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:02.240 Because I've heard that the clubs in Nigeria are crazy wow, 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:05.119 but like you've been to both the Atlanta side and 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:08.360 so for you like, yeah, I was about to say 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:09.960 that's the one thing about here. It's like you know, 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:11.639 at bottles and they stare at each. 0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:15.240 Other when I downcing switson to like ten am. 0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:20.120 Just everyone's dancing, happy, smiling, crazy bottles everything. 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:22.440 What about are the strip clubs in Nigeria? Yeah? What 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:24.960 are the strip club vibes like compared to just like 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:26.480 just like same thing. 0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:30.320 And funny enough, a lot of like dancers fly from America. 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:32.679 To dance out there, to go dance out there. 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:33.399 Oh there's fire. 0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:37.600 Uh so you got the new project out timeless? Uh? 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:41.399 For people who don't know, man, are you very like 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:45.600 aware of like your place in like Afrobeat's history. When 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:47.840 people bring up the Big Three, I think it's like 0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:49.400 you whiz Kid and burna Boy. 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:55.520 Yeah, definitely know, like definitely away especially like do you 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:58.040 have some once you remember when I told you that 0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:00.119 I was like an out, I was on out that 0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:02.800 I'm looking in when I went for December and I 0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:05.200 saw that, you know, in the artist everybody was like 0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:09.200 in one section and I'm just looking like I gotta 0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:12.520 get into this. I gotta get in the mix. But 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:16.359 I also like came with like a vision. Do you understand? 0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:19.840 And I feel like that's what helped me solidify my 0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:21.320 place in afrobeats. 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:24.359 Came with the vision, I knew what I wanted. Do 0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:24.920 you understand? 0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:29.760 I'm a producer as well, so with the production, I 0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:32.120 already knew how I want everything to sound. 0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:33.280 Do you understand? 0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:36.840 And from there and then you know, shout out to 0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:38.960 my pops. You know what I'm saying, he shot my 0:23:39.040 --> 0:23:39.600 first video. 0:23:39.920 --> 0:23:42.639 Your dad shot your first video. Paid for it. I 0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:44.439 was about to say, your dad is talented, he's got 0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:46.320 a doctorate, he's out here shooting videos. 0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:47.640 And so he shot my first video. 0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:50.560 So you know, from then I kind of like, you know, God, 0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:55.680 you know, okay, you know, continue the journey and you know, 0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:59.680 coming out here it was very puzzling for me. So 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:03.000 came out here, and you know, especially for one when 0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:05.240 I did my first tour, I used to live in America. 0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:08.400 Yeah, so it was very futile for me to figure out. 0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:13.040 I know that what gets to be listening? How do 0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:13.560 we do? 0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:15.119 You know what I'm saying, Like it's already popping in 0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:18.760 the clubs, and then before you know it, a major 0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:22.359 label hit me up, Boom Sony. You know what I'm saying. 0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.560 And this is I've been doing music already for like 0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:28.360 seven years, right, you know what I'm saying. I'm talking 0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:32.879 about we like we like sixty records in at this time. Wow, 0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:36.520 sixty records in. But the old records is just start 0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:39.200 to catch, starting to catch. Yes, I feel like that's 0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:40.879 what it's been happening with a lot of It was 0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:45.680 very difficult for us, you know, artists, because we're so 0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:48.159 we're so comfortable already, you know what I'm saying. At 0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:51.200 that time, I was already making at least one hundred 0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:53.800 and fifty two hundred thousand dollars a show, and then 0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:57.000 we have like that's death and then we already setting 0:24:57.040 --> 0:25:01.280 out stadiums, you know what I'm saying, thousand people, and 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:03.320 then you know there's the all that syde of things. 0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:05.680 But you want to move music to the culture to 0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:09.080 push you come out here and the money they're saying, No, 0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:12.360 definitely no. Nowadays it is now. Yeah, but like back then, 0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:14.880 like you got kind of stop from scratch again. Definitely 0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:17.320 not like my first show. My first show I think 0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:20.480 was New York was like Urban Plaza, I think something 0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:20.680 like that. 0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:24.080 It was like a thousand people I'm used to doing 0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:24.600 like fifty. 0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:25.600 Yeah, but there. 0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:28.200 But you know that's how, you know, spreading the music, 0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:30.400 waking up for interviews, like you know what I'm saying, 0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:35.320 doing promo. So you know, when the major labels got 0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:38.320 involved in Aprobets, I felt like we had the music, 0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:39.880 but we didn't have the structure. 0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:40.560 Right, you know what I'm saying. 0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:42.679 Now, you know there's a little bit of structure all 0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:45.640 the labels right now in Nigeria, do you understand? 0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:48.000 So yeah, no, I know, like a shots, I got Gazi, 0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:52.440 I think Empires doing a lot, yeah, a lot of artists, Sony, 0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:53.879 a lot of artist under Sonya. 0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:54.080 As well too. 0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:57.040 Yeah. Yeah. Who would you kind of consider to be 0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:59.680 like Eurog's in this ship because I feel like we 0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:01.520 always hear about you burna Boy and whiz K, but 0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:03.520 there's a whole generation of guy's prior to you guys 0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:04.520 that kind of let the groundwork. 0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:07.720 I think definitely the bunch you know, that's one of 0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:11.360 the artists I saw. I told you du Bane Too Face. 0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:14.359 So the Big three then was the Bane Tooth Face 0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:18.119 and it's a group it's twins called p Square, So 0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:21.560 that was those were like r ogs, you know. Then 0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.680 those are the people that made me say it's possible 0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:26.159 doing this. Yeah, I'm doing this. 0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:28.359 You also have kind of became one of like the 0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:30.800 main guys that like hip hop artists will tap into 0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:32.920 if they universe or the hook. I mean you guys 0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:35.000 like fabulous and go on and on. Who are some 0:26:35.080 --> 0:26:37.920 of the well, first of all, being as a guy 0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:40.919 who went to college here, was born in Atlanta, has 0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:42.520 there been a hip hop artist you've worked with where 0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:43.600 you were like, damn, that's crazy. 0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:47.640 I got a record with this guy like this. Definitely, 0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:49.080 definitely it should be. 0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:51.600 Oh I think, well, I mean I have a lot 0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:53.639 of you know, records I didn't have with me, but 0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:56.600 one of the records I was like, yo, it was 0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:59.880 Nobs when I got that NOAs versus and Hip Boys 0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:02.480 video like those one of the moments because my brother. 0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:03.440 You guys met him a head boy. 0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:06.000 Yeah, he just came in the room. 0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:08.800 Was not what he was like. 0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:10.080 Yeah, man, like he likes African. 0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:11.680 I was like, oh, thank you, thank you, thank you 0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:14.120 what you're working on and he just laid the verse 0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:16.639 and me and my boys just looking because that was 0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:19.600 special to me because my oldest brother Nick, he was 0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:23.479 a big nos fun like that Illmatic album still Man, 0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:26.280 still Madic of course the album when he was young. 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:29.080 His face right there, it's behind that box. 0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:32.960 Oh that's crazy. So that was like crazy to me. 0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:37.280 And then obviously like with Thug, you know baby, oh 0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:40.480 that was real dope, and know we connect the vibe. 0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:43.080 You know, you ended up connecting and like really vibing 0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:43.440 with Doug. 0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:47.680 Yes, oh like not even on music tip. You know 0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:49.880 what I'm saying. Thug is, Thug is a great guy. 0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:53.200 Man actually met a Little Baby through Thug before Little 0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:54.560 Baby even dropped a record. 0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:57.879 Oh really back in the day, people don't understand like 0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:00.560 young Thug and Gucci are like two of the best 0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:03.600 an rs ever. 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What was it when you guys worked together? 0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:48.000 Did he record the verse with you there? 0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:48.320 Yes? 0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:50.720 Because I heard his process is pretty crazy. 0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:55.880 Yeah, he thug duty, But baby, I said, I said, baby, 0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:56.320 just all. 0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:58.840 Because like this Doug going right now and down right. 0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.480 It's just does he lay the he lays He lays 0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:03.400 the melody first and then punches in. 0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:07.080 Or then go back, punch in, go back, through the melody. 0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:09.880 Then you know, you get the words that you recorded. 0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:12.840 You know, I kind of record the same way too. 0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:15.160 So you're you're kind of similar with Joe, like melody 0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:17.120 down and then feeling the lyrics melody and then feeling 0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:21.280 the lyrics. Yeah, you used to be an engineer. Yeah, 0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:24.240 which way do you prefer to record an artist? Because 0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:26.160 I do know some engineers to get frustrated. Yeah, you 0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:28.160 touch me in back back back back, No right there. 0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.400 To me and pu me in think about me. You 0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.760 gotta be quick because I get anxiety when you know. 0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:35.600 When if you have an engineer recording you, they got 0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:36.080 to be fast. 0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:37.720 Yeah, you have to be very very quick. 0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:41.200 And I don't sleep, So it's like you gotta be quick, quick, quick, 0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:43.720 because you know the way you want to, you know, 0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:45.400 lay down an idea. You know, first of all, you 0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:47.640 don't want to lose it, right because sometimes it never 0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:49.840 comes back, you know what I'm saying. So I like 0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:50.640 to be kind of quick. 0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.840 Yeah for you. How much how much like of your 0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:56.240 own production are you doing these days? 0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:56.640 No? 0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:57.440 None? 0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:02.200 Yeah recently, but with this last album, I like I 0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:06.160 supervisor production what I'm said, But I'm as hands on 0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:07.400 us you know, I. 0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:10.520 Was, you know, years back, what it's like for you 0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:12.520 give me two or three artists that are on the 0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:13.880 come up right now that we should be checking out 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:14.280 in the States. 0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:19.600 African African h I was talking about they big lad 0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:20.680 see what he's here on the come up? 0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:23.760 Maybe here here, definitely. 0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:26.920 He's he's hot right now going crazy. 0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:32.120 Rema Rama's got a smash number the highest, yeah, the 0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:35.240 highest ever number one song right now. It's Rhythm radio 0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:36.800 in Selina. 0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:41.120 It's crazy care Redma bou Ju. 0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.760 I've heard. I've heard of Rama, who's on the remix 0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:45.280 of that song. 0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:47.560 Boojus. 0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:54.280 You know, at least kih kids down here. A lot 0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:57.040 of people, man, I can I can name one hundred females. 0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.560 You know, we got Thames, we got Iron Star Savage, 0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:02.080 So yeah, we're doing great. 0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:05.840 Do you ever like see American artists trying to do 0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:09.160 what you guys do and it comes I've seen a 0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:11.600 lot of guys do it and it's very corny. But 0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:15.160 do you ever like feel like like it's a little 0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:17.800 kind of appropriating like y'all's vibe, because it does feel 0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:19.320 like I've seen I mean, I don't want to say names. 0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:22.040 There's been a few guys with like just blatantly just 0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:24.400 I mean, like they don't care about the culture, and 0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:26.280 it's like, this is the sound, let me make the song, 0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:27.000 you know what I mean. 0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:29.000 I don't feel like offended by it, like because I'm 0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:31.440 from both worlds, right, But it'd be like kind of 0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:34.600 weird when when we have like a session and like 0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:37.680 and they come and they're like, yo, can you make 0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:40.640 it sound like that? I'm like, what you talking about? Like, 0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:42.880 can you make it sound like this? Okay, you you've 0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:43.440 had that happen. 0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:44.760 Yeah, plenty of times. 0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:46.240 Do you like cool loo guy to the side, They're like, 0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:49.080 hey man, you got to a little appreciate what we're 0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:52.040 doing here a little bit. Let's say some microwavableshit. Yeah, 0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:55.240 And then I'm just happy, like the night not even 0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:55.960 take it's changing. 0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:58.360 And I've been in the studio, I've worked with so 0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:01.400 many people and then and you know what I'm saying, 0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:04.040 Like before it was like a thing to have like 0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:06.960 American artists on your record, it'd. 0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:08.560 Be like a big deal, a big deal. Now it's 0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:09.759 kind of for it. 0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:10.799 You know what I'm saying. 0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:12.719 I don't mention names, but you know what I'm saying, 0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:15.400 you can be in the studio vibing out with somebody, 0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:17.120 somebody do it verse the next day they send. 0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:22.600 You papers and boys, we're boys that you know in 0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:25.520 the video, you gotta do that too, and you feel. 0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:26.120 Like it's the other way around. 0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:29.520 Now, what's up? I'm charging now? Yeah, what you need, 0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:30.400 I'm charging now. 0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:33.200 I'm saying my lawyers, what's the feature costing? Right now? 0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:39.280 It's timeless, six figures hundred hundred. 0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:42.160 If I know you, If I know you, that's the price. 0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:44.440 If I know your hundred and that's not bad. And 0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:45.560 then the video and then. 0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:48.040 The video costs. That's one thing, you know, Like there's 0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:49.520 a few guys who like I feel like, to. 0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:51.600 Be honest, if I know that, if you do a 0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:53.800 record and I know that you're gonna push it to 0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:56.279 the fullest, to the fullest, and you're an artist that 0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:57.120 I enjoy. 0:34:57.160 --> 0:34:58.360 Like you're a fan of somebody. 0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:00.719 I'm a fan like me and Chris be time we 0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:03.320 get in the studio, like, I'm happy, you know what 0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:06.680 I'm saying, Because Chris is doing a video with you, 0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:08.160 Chris is bring you out on tour. 0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:10.840 Chris is thinking of ideas, and he's also like our 0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:14.080 our Michael Jackson. Yes, like I think Chris Brown's like 0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:17.440 he's an alien for you, because I do. I do 0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:19.080 feel like there has been a few artists who have 0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:21.400 kind of like embraced Like I know when Castanova Free 0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:25.080 Castanova came with to Nightgery video felt like he just died. 0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:27.000 Little Baby cames out. He stayed in my house when 0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:29.120 he came to a little Baby Baby was at the crib. 0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:32.080 Yeah, he said, as the Migos came out there a 0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:33.640 lot of people come out there for shows. 0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:38.200 Yeah, I'm curious, like is the breaking in an artist process? 0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:40.000 How much different is it than here? Because here it's 0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:43.360 like obviously there's TikTok now, but you know, traditionally in 0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:45.799 hip hop you would want to maybe catch a wave 0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:48.839 in a strip club first, or you know there might 0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:50.240 be no from. 0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:52.840 Like my generation on me was like that's really like 0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:57.360 putting out like a thousand CDs go around and club. 0:35:57.800 --> 0:35:59.919 But now, like, shit is different. 0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:03.160 You can be sitting somewhere in the village, you drop 0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:06.759 a record once one thing goes viral and you you 0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:08.560 know what I'm saying. So stuff is different now, Like 0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:10.800 even when we're in the studio, now we're thinking like 0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:12.960 how can we make a challenge to this song. 0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.040 Like how we get the ship popping on TikTok and 0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:16.640 then out there's Audio Max really big. 0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:19.160 I think Audio Mac Yeah, because you know it's easy 0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.839 to It's easier, it's like subscribe, you know what I'm saying. 0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:25.080 But recently started fy Nigeria. He comes to Night Gena 0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:26.440 and that's helped. 0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:26.680 A lot too. 0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:29.560 Who would you want to do a collab project with 0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:31.400 from the States? If you could do a collab album 0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:31.960 with anybody? 0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:35.920 Definitely Chris. That'd be crazy. Definitely Chris. Me and Chris 0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:38.240 got like ten songs like people ain't heard. 0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:41.320 Ten that are just on a hard drive. Yeah, have 0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:43.239 you guys talked about doing that? He did a thug album. 0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:46.520 Definitely, Definitely. I go to his house after here too. 0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:48.920 But yeah, me and Chris definitely, you know what I'm saying. 0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:50.640 I was even meant to go on toll him. 0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:52.440 You know what I'm saying. But we're gonna do a 0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:53.359 lot together. Who else? 0:36:55.080 --> 0:37:00.040 I do a record with Scissa, She's. 0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:00.920 Really really dope for Bad Bunny too. 0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:01.160 Man. 0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:07.040 There is such a correlation between like reggaetone and afrobeats 0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:10.560 because one it's just great dancing music, and I feel 0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:14.000 like BPM wise like BPM wise, they match up so 0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:16.879 well if you're DJing in the club. Have you done 0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:18.920 like any shows with any like any like big reggaeton 0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:21.640 artists anywhere? No? 0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:24.799 Not really, but I had to showing Puerto Rico though, Yeah, 0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:28.479 crazy crazy. I remember on the flight down maxim Names, 0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:31.040 I was like, you sure it's going to be yo? 0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:31.680 What it was like? 0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:33.799 Twenty thousand people in Puerto Rico? 0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:35.520 Yeah, Puerto Rico. 0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:41.360 We've had Mexico reach out to. But I love performing 0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:42.200 in the islands. 0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:44.520 What's your favorite place to perform so far? 0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:45.600 So far? 0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:49.320 That was real dope, I'll say the Bahamas. 0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:52.120 The Bahamas. Do you ever go to that crazy resort 0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:54.319 they got there, the Atlantis resort that I obways see 0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:54.759 it on the line. 0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:57.080 We would like in and out, in and out records, 0:37:57.960 --> 0:37:58.640 in and out records. 0:37:58.640 --> 0:37:59.920 Well, look, man, the new album's out right now. 0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.400 Timeless, you know what I'm saying, going crazy? 0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:05.600 Anything else on the way. 0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:10.440 Definitely be going on tour in July. If you can't everywhere, Nah, 0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:12.520 we do. We spliting it up, so we do. 0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:13.640 I want to see I want to go to it. 0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:14.880 I want to go to a show that's not the 0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:17.000 United States. I want to go to like, so come 0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:20.440 to come to Nigeria. I gotta go to Nigeria. Puerto Rico, Rob, 0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:22.480 are we going to Nigeria. 0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:27.440 We're gonna get to December, December, December, let's go. 0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:31.400 So the best time to come definitely, you know in December, 0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:33.840 you know what I'm saying. She also visit Ghana too, 0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:34.600 and I. 0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:35.480 Heard Ghana is amazing. 0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:39.279 So Nigeria is like New York and Ghana is like 0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:42.080 La Like okay, calmer. 0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:45.560 So Nigeria is like fast paced, bro, you gotta. 0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:47.719 Be shopped if you can't, so wife, in Nigeria, you 0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:49.160 con sof anywhere. 0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:50.880 Ghana is more relaxed. 0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:53.000 Yeah, kickback, you want to. 0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:55.359 Don't kick back too much in La though, they'll rob 0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:59.200 your ass out, I know, do you guys? Listen? Dude, 0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:03.279 Africans claim Elon Musk because he is South African. I'm 0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:05.239 just wondering, is it he's from Yeah, but. 0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:10.120 That's crazy. He's got like kind of like South Africa. 0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:13.239 I love you know Caucasians are down there, you know 0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:16.640 what I'm saying, because you know they stayed after It's dope. 0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:20.799 South Africa southever it looks like la It's like beautiful, Like. 0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:25.920 Yeah, isn't it like very still kind of like separated 0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:28.759 and like a lot of the social issues. Yeah, like 0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:32.359 there's some yeah everywhere, some Jim Crow type ship there. 0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:34.680 They're like two languages. I know, there's like a one 0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:37.719 language called Afrikaans, and like it's weird, like I think, 0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:40.080 I'm not sure it's not one hundred percent, but I 0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:41.920 think like the black people don't speak that. 0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:44.680 That's wow. Man, Well listen, I appreciate you pulling up. 0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:45.520 You're definitely a legend. 0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:45.640 Man. 0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:49.040 There's dope to have you here. A new album out, new. 0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:52.600 Album out, Timeless the Way tour on the way. I 0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:55.680 got a festival in Atlanta in November. Oh ship, Yes, 0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:58.800 I plan to do it yearly. It's called a wavefest. 0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:02.440 Who else before I'm trying to bring okay, you bring everybody, everybody. 0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:04.560 I'm trying to bring everybody through and have like our 0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:05.000 own coach. 0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:06.000 We can do every year. 0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:10.319 Yeah. I just saw there's a big afrobeats festival I. 0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:12.320 Think is Miami. The next one is Miami. 0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:15.239 Okay, that's what's up. I appreciate you. Yeah, affirmation my brother. 0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:18.520 Appreciate you, man, David. Oh hey, we got to wrap 0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:21.000 up an interview brought to you by Hard Dean, Las Vegas. 0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:23.520 Appreciate y'all watching. Hey, don't forget when you go to Vegas, 0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:25.360 you gotta go to Hard Dean. Man, it's the craziest 0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:28.480 dispensary you'll ever walk into. 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